Club Shay Shay - Nightcap - Hour 1: Cowboys lackluster win, Jerry Jones to blame, Ocho and Sharelle make up

Episode Date: September 27, 2024

Shannon Sharpe and Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson react to Dak Prescott and the Dallas Cowboys lackluster performance on Thursday Night Football despite beating the New York Giants. Later, Unc and Ocho discuss how Jerry Jones is ruining the Cowboys, Ocho and Relle making up after beefing for four weeks and much more!03:18 - Introduction05:30 - Cowboys Beat Giants39:15 - Ocho Relle Make up52:35 - Dan Campbell 57:18 - Dolphins QB situation01:03:18 - Willie Anderson on Burrow(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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It was, it left a lot to be desired. The Cowboys beat division rival giants, 20 to 15, the J the Cowboys improved to two and two while the giants fall to one and three. Again, the Cowboys win 20 to 15 that 22 or 27 to 21 to touchdown zero interceptions. They ran the ball up. They had 80 yards on 23 carries. So there's nothing to write home about, Ocho. Let's not get over excited.

The Giants, Daniel Jones was 29 of 42, 81. He had an interception at the end of the ball game. Didn't really matter. They had 24 attempts for 26 yards, Ocho. But Ocho, when I look at this game, there were like three throws. If that's another quarterback, the Giants probably win this game. He had neighbors.

Neighbors ran a tremendous route, had digs, beat, and he was behind Hooker. And he hung the ball up, they knock it down, he had Slayton on the goal ball. Slayton on the right, yes, against the young boy. And Ocho, you remember, they had a dig, they had an end. And people are like, well, he should have caught the ball. But I'm not getting into it with people that never caught the ball for a living. So you and I are about to have a conversation. Like, when I put my foot in the dirt and I'm driving directly back to the quarterback, I'm expecting the ball to be here.

Or if it's low, I can get my body on top of it. If he throws it outside of my body, if it's high, I'm expecting the ball to be right between my numbers or my eyes, I can catch it like this. If it's high and outside, I can do that. When he throws it low and outside, now I got to dive for it. If the ball doesn't hit my hand,

it's probably gonna hit here. And if it hits any part of this, it's gone. It's gone. It's gonna get away from you every time. And that's what I'm trying to explain. Yes. And if he gets pressure, I could understand if Daniel Jones had pressure,

but he had no pressure on that. He has to step and deliver the ball. It's two or three throws in this game that got away from him. That's the difference because they're not good enough right now, Ocho, to overcome those types of mistakes, those kind of miscues. If you like, you know, you Kansas City, you one of these better teams, you could overcome something like that.

But as you go along and you play better teams, even then you won't you won't be able to overcome it. But people don't understand people think, well, here's his hands, bro. be able to overcome it. But people don't understand, people think, well, hit his hands, bro, stop it. Stop it, it's just not, I know y'all have heard and everybody say, if you hit your hands, you should catch it. Well, if you didn't catch balls for a living,

and a lot of people that talk about it didn't catch balls for a living, stop, stop. Yeah, hey, listen, it's a very difficult catch for those of you that don't know, to have an errant throw like that when you're trying to drive back to the quarterback and he throws it away from where you're going to and you have to adjust your body is a very, very difficult catch. Listen, there are some-

Because it's low and outside, Ocho. Yeah. And now there are also receivers who can probably make it that are natural pass catchers of the ball. Natural pass catchers can probably adjust and make that catch. But for most of the receiving in the league, it's a very, very difficult catch.

Again, like you said, you're not gonna win games like this. If I think if the Cowboys, the Cowboys didn't look that good tonight. I think they look, they played decent. And if it was any other team outside of the Giants, five of the field goals, at least two of those

or maybe three of those might've been touchdowns and the game would have been different. The game would have been different and another team would have won, but the Giants, listen, Daniel Jones has to make some of those, some of those throws. The one in Malik neighbors should have been six. The one that Slayden should have easily been six. Easy. If he hadn't had to underthrown it. No, those, those were layups.

And if we can get, if we can get some consistency at the quarterback position in New York with the weapons he got, they will be fine. But right now, you know, the quarterback is costing them a little bit. They get, getting them a lot of it. We just say he cost him a lot of beer because Ocho, the thing is they're not good enough to overcome that. See, the thing is when you, when you're challenged, but offensively you have. I've been in a situation.

I played on the 2000 Ravens. We were challenged offensively, but what we did when we got you in the right defense, you were in the wrong defense, we had the right play call, we punished you. We had to because we couldn't miss throws because we weren't that good. We weren't the 98 Minnesota where they had Chris Card and Randy Moss

and all those guys. We weren't the Patriots and what was that? Oh seven. Yeah, we weren't the Broncos in 2013 We weren't that right so you have to understand who and what you are and when the opportunity presents itself I just remember like look anytime somebody made a mistake We had to make them pay right and if we made a mistake, Brian used to always look, if we make a mistake, let's just make sure we hold onto the ball. If somebody whiffs a block, quarterback,

and you get hit flush, just hold onto the ball. Running back, if somebody gets whiffs, just make sure you hold onto the ball. Now on the flip side, Ocho, we catch you in the wrong defense and we got the right play call, we've got to hit our head on the goal post. Because we're not going to get that many opportunities We catch you in the wrong defense, and we got the right play call, we've gotta hit our head on the goal post. Every time. Because we're not gonna get that many opportunities,

and we're not gonna go out there and score 30 points a game. It's gonna be a nip-tuck ball game. We make one or two plays, and we're gonna turn it over to our defense. That is the way the Giants are. The Giants are not good enough offensively. They can't run the ball well enough. Their quarterback is not consistent enough.

Malik neighbors It's gonna look fantastic. Yeah, I like one day Robinson Slayton is what he is. But I think I think he's good enough But the quarterback position is Not yeah, you can't miss those throws. They're too routine They're too routine for you to miss and you're not good enough to overcome them. Yeah. And also the refs need to get out of the way on. That first half?

Oh, that wasn't no face mask. They call face masks on the wrong damn guy. Man, listen, they threw more yellow flags, boy. More yellow flags and Big Bird got feathers. You hear me? The refs were all in the way of the game in the first half. flags, boy, more yellow flags and Big Bird got a fellow Jimmy. The rest were all in the way of the game in the first half. I didn't, I didn't know what in the world was going on. But other than that, listen, it was, it was, it was a snooze fest, no disrespect. And if you look at the Cowboys schedule, I think the Cowboys next three games.

Like they're going to have to play better than they did tonight. I know they won the game. It feels good to be at 500 going into week four. That is, that's, that's a good thing. It's a positive thing, you know, to be above 500 or at 500 for that matter, but it's not going to get any easier. It's not going to get any easier. No, no, I just think the thing is, is that when you, when you're in a situation like

the Giants, Ocho, when you're challenged offensively, I don't think their defense are world beaters, but they play well enough. I love Thibodeau, I love Lawrence. I think they're solid players. The secondary, ah, ah. Well, they gotta get a Dory back. A Dory's hurt right now,

and they got some other pieces that are out right now as far as the secondary is concerned. Once they get them boys back I think they solid you know they not the best defense in in the league but they can play some goddamn good ball especially with that front you know they got up there with Dexter Lawrence and Brian Burns and yeah yeah yeah they can play the quarterback you got two edge rushers Lawrence can collapse the pocket from inside they're decent I think the quarterback, you got two edge rushers. Lawrence can collapse the pocket from inside. They're decent. I think their front four is the strength of their defense. I think that's where they're gonna make their hay. That's where they're gonna be like,

okay, guys, we've got to win up front in order for us to have a chance at the second, the linebacker court and the back end. But we have to do what we need to do upfront. But at the end of the day, your quarterback can't miss those throws, Ocho. He just can't, I'm sorry. And guys, I don't, I'm not trying to,

it was 2015 and maybe y'all take consolation in that. And see, the thing is with me is that, Ocho, when I look at a game, I don't watch the sound. I'm not looking at, they scored a touchdown, yay. I'm looking at why you scored. Okay, the touchdown, yay. I'm looking at why you scored. Okay, the ball is incomplete. I'm looking at why it's incomplete. I'm looking at a situation that's a coverage.

I'm like, bro, why in that coverage? You know it's funny. You have to understand. Well, like, and people got mad at me. I was like, bro, I understand. Well, if AJ, but that wasn't AJ. You know that's not AJ. First of all, Devontae is 60 pounds less than AJ. Right. So even if AJ collides, it's going to be incomplete.

Right. That's not Devontae game is not physicality. Right. It's finesse. You have to understand that. And in that situation, that down in distance, that area of the field, it's about physicality, right right because you're asking him to Cross his face or collide him because the one thing you don't want happen at the best thing Yeah, is that you score touchdown the second best thing is incomplete the absolute worst thing is what oh Joe an interception And they got the absolute there are three things that could happen and they got the absolute worse

So when I look at the situation, I'm looking at I'm telling you if Daniel Jones make two throws tonight the Giants win this game oh yeah that we that one the neighbors that I want to slay that one that one is ladies to put nail in the coffin that one the slayton should have put the nail in the car You talk about winning bad at the line. Not only did he beat that buddy, he had a buddy. And then he gave a little nudge, Jojo. Hey, then he gave a little nudge. He got a little more separation. Man. He going to look at film.

Daniel Jones will look at film. The receivers going to look at film. And they going to be upset. The coach is going to be upset because they know that's the game. They could have won. If, if not only, listen, we score five field goals. All right. That'd get you beat. But the fact that you missed the throws as well on top of only scoring five,

getting, getting five field goals, that ain't going to win you no games. No, it is not. Oh, Joe, it's not like you barely in the red zone. You way down there. Yeah. You weigh. I mean, you in the five, you at the five yard line. And look, they had a great play called the over. What at the five yard line and look they had a great play called the over What's the name? Oh over Sean made a great play. They had a play to Rondale Robinson They they they put him in motion and they swung him out of the backfield

He has to come from his inside linebacker spot, right? And he has to make a play on a wire receiver tip your hat to him He made an unbelievable play because son look you have one- one on one. That's the guy you got to beat. You either run his ass over and you got to make him miss. Those are your only two options, but you can't let him tackle you in the open field. That's what they say. I'm telling you what they're telling him. Having been in situations like that, having been in offensive

meeting room and saying, look, that's the guy. You got two choices. You run his ass over or you make him miss. Those are your only two options because if you do one of those two things, the ball's in the end zone. Other than that, we got to kick a field goal. And what did they do?

They kicked a field goal. Give Obershaw an credit. He made an unbelievable play. Unbelievable. But you've got to, you've got, especially because the Cowboys, if the Cowboys had settled for two field goals, you right there with them, Ocho.

But they got touchdown Yeah, so now you got think about it. You got four field goals They got two touchdowns and they're in front by two points. That's it Then they kick attack on another field goal. Now you need a touchdown to take the lead because a field goal won't help you And that's it And that's what I'm telling because you have to look at the game It's like we're damn we kick we kick any field goal date. Hey, they got two touchdowns and they get they got us Is it they they they got us right now? Um, but in that situation man, Dan Jones just he has to make those

He just has to go Joe. He has to Any level of success. If not both of them, make one of them. If not both of those throws, make one of them. Cause one of those throws, both are touchdowns, but just make one of them. And the game is completely different. Completely different.

Yeah, I agree. I agree, I agree. But that's the difference in the ball game. Cause you look, like we said, there are a couple of plays here or there. It's not the totality of the game. Yeah, you can look at it and say, OK, it's 60 minutes in the ballgame. But when you go back and break it down like we have for decades, you go back to you like, OK, this might have been the play right here

that could have broke the game up for that could have swung the momentum in our favor, and who knows what happens after that. But we got to make those plays, especially if you're as challenged offensively as they are. And the Giants are challenged offensively. They don't have anybody that put fear in your heart in the run game.

24 carries, 26 yards. That's not striking fear in nobody's heart. Neighbors is legit he legit Wondell Robinson you can win with yeah, Slayton. He's okay. Yeah, he's here to miss I mean he can light you up for a big day and then some days not so much right, but I They leave a lot to be desired offensively and when you leave a lot to be desired offensively When your opportunity presents itself. Oh, Joe, you it's like a situation where a guy you might only be in a room with this good looking woman one time.

Yeah. At some point in time, you got to find a way to make your way over in her vicinity and get attention. You better make the most of your opportunity. You better make the most of the opportunity. Exactly. And don't wait too long because why you should I? You never know. Most of the opportunity. Exactly. And don't wait too long. Because why you over there?

Should I? And next day, you know somebody else don't walk in there. He up there talking to us. And now you're like, damn, I done blew my opportunity. Yes. Yes. And so that's how you have to approach it if you're the giant.

The opportunities are not going to be there often. But when they do present themselves, you make sure you're in position and you make that play Yeah, so the Cowboys move to two and two they get ten days off now They play again. They don't play again to the following Sunday if I'm not mistaken What I got 20 to 15 they went over the Giants go to two and two Both of their wins on the road both of their losses at home The Giants fall to one and three and they're 0 and two at home.

Who, wait, what's the Cowboys got next? I mean, they got three hard games in a row, don't they? Who they got in? They got the Steelers. Woo! Who they got after that? Well, Guy it, well, guy ain't no dealers.

Left tackle. Lions, Niners, Falcons, Eagles. Oh my God. Well, that's five in a row. And then the Texans. Well, that's a six game gauntlet right there. That is a six game gauntlet. We're gonna fight.

I remember when we were with the Broncos, Mike would always tell us, win, lose, or draw. Looking at the schedule, and we took it one at a time. Said, we're gonna find out a lot about ourselves over the next several weeks. We broke, I mean, a lot of times, Ocho, we did, Mike would have the board blacked out, so the only thing you could see with the next opponent,

he says the 16 round fight, right? We will take one round at a time. So, I mean, obviously, you know, you can look at the paper, you see the schedule or something like that. But on the board, when you walked in, the only thing you saw was the opponent you were about to face. Yeah. He didn't want you looking down the road. The most important game on our schedule is happening Sunday. It's happening Monday night. And keep your focus.

He said, but we're gonna find out a lot about ourselves. Yeah. I like finding a lot about myself. I like finding out, I am whatever I say I am. If I wasn't, why would I say I am? Come on, man. That's what I want. Hey, I say I am. If I wasn't, why would I say I am? Come on, man. That's what I want. Hey, I needed to know.

I thought I was pretty good, but the team that we playing, they got a Pro Bowl, all pro safety. They got Pro Bowl, all pro corner. They got Pro Bowl, all pro linebacker. Okay, Shannon, you talk about you the best? Hell yeah. I'm here to show me.

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I didn't either. People that, man, you don't wear no mouthpiece. No, man, I ain't got time. I done put my pan on the dirt. I done slap, do it on his back. I done slapped him on his ass. I done done good job. And you think I'm about to reach in my mouth

and pull my mouthpiece out? I wish I might. And plus, I didn't want to take time to put, hold on. No, I just want to be talking on cue. Shut the. I'm a, if a, oh, sight, whatever, whoever. And shut up. I wasn't even talking to you. But since you read your mouth, I'm talking to your.

You know what now? You're gonna get it too. Oh, for sure. It's some good days, boy. Good days. Oh Joe, I don't know if you saw this, but Jerry said Tuesday, it's very unfair to, he said it's very fair to blame the Cowboys' struggles on him. That's very fair. It's well known. No decision is ultimately made here. What I either have accu-ed or proved it. That's very fair. Whatever it is here, that's the way it is.

Jerry, you not interrupting our normally scheduled program to tell us that. We know that. You made that abundantly clear. And I've been saying that for the longest. I thought Jerry would have got the message by now. I mean, obviously he's going to ignore it. You said it, he's going to ignore it. Jerry, let the players play. Jerry, let the coaches coach. The team itself because it's a star on his helmet it gets enough attention as it is. There's enough pressure on the players already. There's enough there's enough pressure on the coaches already because they can't even make the goddamn decision. They need to make the winner got game to win the goddamn game they need to win because you're looking over everybody's shoulder. Man take a back seat. Kick your feet up.

Matter of fact, go watch the game on your yacht. Oh, Joe. Tell Jerry, go watch the game on your yacht. Let them boys do what they need to do, man. No, but he can't. But see, what Jerry feels to realize, the Cowboys are the sun. Does the sun need to burn any hotter for it to be brighter?

It's already hot. It's brighter now. Jerry, you don't have to sell it. It's already hard. It's brighter. Yeah, Jerry, you don't have to sell it. It's already sold. Listen, listen. Hey, that's the way to keep his name because if you go ahead, go ahead. The Dallas Cowboys is blue magic. Chad, if you saw American Gangster, the Dallas Cowboys in blue magic,

you ain't got to do nothing to it. You don't got to do nothing to it. You don't got to do nothing to it. Just sell it as it is. It's going to sell itself. Come on, Jerry. Somebody might get a little bit more credit because you think about it. If you look at the 90s, what did they talk about? They talked about Jimmy and the triplets.

Nobody mentioned nobody mentioned Jerry. Even though even though once Jimmy left, he was yacking. It was the triplets. It was Troy, Emmett, and Michael. When Jimmy was there, it was Jimmy. How about them cowboys? Jerry despised that because he saw Al. When you play the Raiders, it's always been Al Davis.

It's always been about Al. It's kind of like in the Yankees, before Mr. Steinbrenner passed, all those great players, once he purchased it from CBS, I think in 73, for like $7 million, it was about George. Jerry learned how to be an owner from Al Davis. for like seven million dollars. It was about George. Jerry learned how to be an owner from Al Davis. It was always about Al. And that's what Jerry wants. He wants that attention. Most owners, Mr. Kraff, you look at the Rooney's,

back, we good back here, Eddie DeBarlito for the 49ers before his sister. Now Jed York, the York family has it. Right. They in the back. Clark Hunt. Yeah. Before his dad, Mr. Lark, rest his soul Lamar.

I play the Chief. When his dad on the team, I mean, if you didn't know, right. It's something when the owner is the centerpiece of your franchise. Mm-hmm. There's something to be said for that. Yeah, yeah, most definitely, most definitely.

And listen, I don't think they will see success until things change. And I'm sure Jerry's not gonna step down but he's already made the comment that who can run the team better than he can. Obviously he might be the issue because they haven't been back to the Super Bowl what the last 25, 27 years.

I'm not sure what the number may be but it's one thing about him. He's a great salesman. That's why the fans in the city, everyone continues to buy in because he gonna sell you a dream that man. He gonna sell you. But they kill it, Jerry.

They kill it. Jerry the chair. They say Jerry be taking that as a game of inches. Literally. Man, y'all get out of the chair. Come on, man. And that's a good one. And that's a good one.

Yeah, but but that's but you're right. You're right. Oh, yeah. Yeah, absolutely right. This is what Jerry wants. Jerry's like, anytime you're talking about the Cowboys, be it good, bad, doesn't matter, you're talking. Yeah, as long as you're talking.

Maybe that's the damn problem. But hey. Like I said, I played with Mr. B, Mr. B, A. I mean, early on, Ocho B, Mr. B. A. I mean, like early on, Ocho, he'd be on the sideline. He had his fur coat on his mink or whatever the case may be. Boom, in the sideline. Mr. Modell stood in the back. The only time, the only time Mr. Modell, I was there two years and I don't know what he was like before I got there. And I don't know what he was like after I left. The only time in the locker room, Mr.

Modell spoke after we won the Super Bowl. He broke down and started crying. He said, I'll never forget what y'all did for me today. He said, I'm proud of you. He said, I'm very proud of you. Now obviously he said, I never forget what you did today. That's the only time Mr. B I don't recall Mr. B talking in the locker room.

And I was there, we went back to back suit bolt. I don't remember Mr. B talking in the locker room. Right. But I get you, go ask the Cowboys, can they remember a time Jerry not talking in the locker room? Run to the center. Yeah, when Jimmy was there. Why you think Parcells live?

Yeah, listen, that listen, Bill Parcells and a lot of people, I see a lot of people talk about Bill Belichick taking a job in Dallas. Like you talk about I don't it wouldn't work. It wouldn't work. You know, Bill Belichick is no different than Bill Parcells. Like all that all that talking, the two,, the number one thing, being a part of the Patriot way is some one of the things that Bill Belichick despises and you cannot do. You cannot talk to the media. You can't. You give and don't tell, say nothing.

Short and sweet. To the point, don't talk. Don't give a team any bulletin board material. And you think Bill Belichick is going to the Cowboys to have Jerry front center every goddamn time. And what? Absolutely not. Oh, Joe, what are the only in the NFL? What are the only in any sport has a radio show? Oh, one oh one oh five one oh three point five, something like that. Yeah. Hey, man, 103.5, something like that?

Yeah. Hey, man, listen. Yeah, him, Jerry, that's my point. You gotta be heard, man. That's it. You gotta be heard. Because here's the thing, let's just say for the sake of argument, Coach Belichick says,

well, I don't really need to be the general manager. Okay, we can see that. But he says, Jerry, these are the type players I'm, you do know if coach Belichick comes in there, and he makes changes, right, that's an indictment on Jerry. Because Jerry believes the players that he had are exquisite. And then coach Belichick comes in and says, I need this type of player. Right. Oh, now what? Now what? Yeah, we got a problem before the sport even started. The show didn't even start yet. The credit, listen, not the credits, what you call it?

What you call it? What come on before the movie come on? Oh, the preview. Oh yeah, the preview. The preview's on. They ain't even getting, they still in the previews and they already button heads. Oh Joe, but here's the thing. previews on. They ain't even getting, they're still in the previews and they already button heads. Oh Joe, but here's the thing. If Coach Belichick comes in and the Cowboys get to and win the Super Bowl, who's gonna get the credit? Oh you know Bill. Oh you know we talk about Bill winning his eighth

or seventh. The one thing that Jerry despised, that's why he ran Jimmy off. What other coach you know will run a coach off after back to back Super Bowls considering they hadn't won one since the seventies. So they hadn't won one in damn this 20 years. And the coach that comes in and gives you back to back and you got a 25 year old Troy Aitman, 25 year old, a 24 year old Emmett Smith. You got a 26 year old Michael Irvin. So you got those guys in the absolute prime.

The guy that got this. Now you got to go. Ego boy, ego, pride, you know? Addition, your pride fall first before everything else do. I think the greatest thing that's ever happened was what we saw in New England and we might not see it again. Because Mr. Kraft set his ego aside

and for the longest time, Tom and Coach Belichick set their egos aside. And then somebody started listening to the noise and said, who deserves more credit? And then all of a sudden somebody, Tom did not want to leave New England. Tom wanted to be a one helmet guy. He wanted to be that he deserved that. Yeah.

I mean, some people deserve that opportunity. Like coach Smith, North Carolina, he deserved to stay there. As long as he didn't get him brought in a scandal, he deserved to be there. Coach K at Kentucky coach summit at Tennessee. There are certain coaches, coach Brian, Nick, say certain coaches, because they've been exemplary on the field. Right. And in the community, they get to finish on their terms. Tom Brady has been everything.

The player. He's he was supposed to play. And this is the one time that Mr. Crafts supposed to have to put his foot down and say, Billy, that's what he calls Coach Belichick, Billy, I ain't gonna do it. I ain't gonna do it. Damn. I'm not.

Because he said Tommy was like a son to him. Yeah. The value in that franchise was because of one too. Yeah. He gave his mom a Super Bowl ring. Family members don't normally get Super Bowl rings. I gave my brother my Super Bowl ring because it meant more for me for him to have it

than it ever would to me. That's a lie. But no, Tom was supposed to be there for perpetuity. Tom was supposed to, hey, roll, hey, if you got a motorized scooter, a cane, a walker. Right. But not, he's supposed to have been there. And for whatever reasons, Coach Velichick thought it was over.

And well, it started way before then, Ocho. It started way before then when Jimmy G. Yeah, was there, yeah, yeah. And the guy wrote that article, Seth Wickersham and somebody else, Mark Fadar-Werwada or somebody else wrote an article about the power struggle that was starting to happen. And Mr. Krafft put his foot down and say, you will trade Jimmy G.

He basically gave Jimmy G away to the 49ers. He adores Kyle Shanahan. He has the utmost respect for Kyle's father, Mike Shanahan. So he's like, as a basically an FU to Mr. Krabs, well, I'm gonna give him away. Mm-hmm. I mean, listen, I mean, he was gonna be next in line. He was gonna be next in line.

And as the franchise quarterback, I don't want the person who is next in line, my successor, to be looking over my shoulder because at any point when I'm not playing well or as good as I should be based on what people are used to seeing, now y'all calling for Jimmy G to be the starter. Man, y'all got to get him up out of here. Even though he's getting him up out of here. What I've what I've relayed and through my experience and being around great players, right Great players as they start to get a as they start to age they only get compared to them younger sale. Mm-hmm

Who could you compare Tom to who did you prepare Peyton to you compare them to them younger sales, right? And so that's what the great players, that's their honor. You compare me, you compare a 35, 36 year old to a 24, 25 year old. And although Tom, Tom, I mean, it's not like he had three games in a row to man through for 150 yards. But considering what he, because Edelman has started to be involved in a row, the man threw 450 yards. But considering what he, because Edelman has started to be involved in a little bit few too many car wrecks, it has started to affect him.

Gronk has started to get nicked a little bit more frequently and it has started to impact him. And so the weapons that he once had were plenty, but the collisions had started to add up. So that started to impact him. Well, Coach Belichick thought it was Brady. He didn't look around at the surroundings to see, man, if I get, you know, maybe upgrade something,

because Brady had taken pay cuts for damn good for 20 years. So what the hell you, you, you put hiding the money under your pillow. So where, where was all, where were you spending the money? And he had started, he had started to reach and reach. Cause a lot of times when you become great, Ocho, you start to take unnecessary risks. He had had such success. He got Gronk.

Um, he got, uh, Aaron Hernandez in the third round, he got Gronk in the second round, who was a first round pick, but he had the back injury. Hernandez was a first round pick, but he had the off the field issues. He dropped to the third. You get Edelman in the seventh round. You get Amandola in Fringe, so you get Wes Welker. You know, people don't really know.

And so he, but, and you know, he, he had some good picks early on, especially defensively. Oh yeah. But his wide receivers, ugh, the wide receivers he was picking was terrible. Terrible. But. Well, it was fun. 20 years. I mean, look, who wouldn't take 20 years, six Super Bowls, nine Super Bowl appearances, Ocho? Yeah, everybody would.

Yeti would. Everybody would. But you know how hard it is to win six Super Bowls, nine Super Bowl appearances, Ocho. Yeah, everybody would. Yeah, yeah they would. Everybody would. But you know how hard it is to win six Super Bowls? Hell, I know how hard it is to win one. Yeah, you know how hard it is to win one, let alone to go to nine and win six. You can't even do, it's difficult to do that in the video game, man, let alone in real life. That lets you know how great and how much of an icon

Goddamn bill is Yeah Oh Joe before we move on Oh Joe and rail guys have officially made up. Oh long They've kissed it made up. It's so die. Is it yeah, look at you. Nah, we we we I mean look we we are We are but listen, I eased up, you know, how you when you drive and write, you step on the brake. Yeah. So I stepped on the brake a little bit. I am easing off of it.

I ease off it all the way, because if you ease off it all the way, they don't think shit sweet. Shit ain't sweet. Shit ain't sweet. And I'm being serious for those. But, you know, I mean, I'm handling this as mature as I can, as mature as I possibly can. So she, well, I'm, I'm, I'm proud of you, bro. Yeah.

Yeah. I appreciate that. She right there behind you. Can't see her. Oh, she in the bed asleep. Baby. Yeah. She, she knocked that back.

Listen, she back there snore like a rhino. You can't hear. Hey, real, real. See, I'm going real. See, I'm traveling real. Listen, she back there snarled like a rhino. You can't hear? Hey, real say I'm traveling. Real say I'm traveling. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Listen, she came with me, you know, came to support me at Inside NFL, Winsy. So, you know, we left there and drove on down to New York. So, you know, we in New York.

I see people in the chat making fun of me talking about, what, what you in a storage unit with no lights. Somebody say what you back in the closet put you in the storage unit. No, I'm gonna tell you I got lights on because you know my little baby hippo, my little baby back there no snoring. She's sleeping. Yeah, she's sleeping. But other than that, man, I just, man, we good. Man, we can take things slow. What I need to do, I need to start over with her.

Because we in year five, right? And we got to look comfortable. I think she didn't got a little comfortable. She didn't got a little complacent. I think I got a little complacent. And it ain't the same like it was in the beginning. I need to record. I need to find ways to fall in love again, you know?

And find ways to re-date, you know? All that good stuff, man. You know, just add a little pepper and spice to this shit. Because we, you know, we done got everything became routine. Yeah, you get settled. I mean, you had something natural. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm just being honest. We had a good talk. She working, you working. Yeah, we had a good talk, man. Driving from Ph You working? Yeah, we had a good talk, man. Driving from driving from Philly to here.

But we had that. That's what's up. Yeah, about time she took, you know, something that most women don't. She took accountability. I was like, OK, I'm proud of you. That's because you did that in five years. I like that. I like that. I like that.

I'm a daughter. Own it. Yeah. Yeah. Mess up. Clean it that. Yeah, I like that. I'm a dog. I'm a dog. Own it. Yeah. Yeah. Mess up. Clean it up. Yeah. Yeah. But the greatest apology is change behavior. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. It is. It is.

It is. But listen, I like, listen, I like, I like when I hear that phrase right there, the greatest apology is change behavior. Now, there's only so much we can do as humans because you are who you are, especially at our big age, you know? And at times if you have to change too much of who you are to be someone else, then you lose a sense of yourself. Right. And that's one thing I can't do.

I can't lose a sense of self and what makes me me. Now the issues and problems that we do have are not magnified that much because they're small. They're fixable. Yeah, they're fixable problems. But what I need to do is I need to find a way to minimize those small problems because small problems continue to build

and build and build and build and build and they become big problems. Right. So that's why you jump on them. That's why, but here's the thing, Ocho. As long as you approach it in a way that's not confrontational, you're like, baby, I wanna talk to you about something.

And no, you know, it's not an issue, but I don't want it to become an issue So and then you you you approach it like that. You don't approach her in a confrontational manner No, you don't cause like you you wrong and I'm right in this situation you talk to her Like I said, I just know real through you But I think I think you know, she she's probably because the one thing I do know, Ocho, she, she, she loves you. She wanted you. She wanted, she wanted you. And it's one, it's one thing, it's a one thing when a woman wants a man.

Yeah. There's not a whole lot that woman won't do for that man. Yeah. And vice versa and vice versa. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You know, I don't think I'm breaking, I don't, I'm not breaking news, but when a woman really wants that man. Yeah. And vice versa. And vice versa. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You know, I don't think I'm breaking. I'm not breaking news. But when a woman really wants a man

and she put herself out there like, yeah, I want you. Yeah. Let it be known. Let the record clearly say that real. That's not how she told me. She said, she said, I want you, but I don't need you. So like it was like it was, she kind of hit me with like a backhanded compliment at the same time, like, well, damn, you know, just say you want me. You had to tell me you need me. We know we know we know you good. But I think we we're on the right path.

We we we doing good. We doing good. But I like and I somebody tweeted me the other day. Why are you always posting me? Y'all beefing with. Listen, I post when we happy. I post when we smile and I post when we sleep in. I post when you wake up in the morning. I post every goddamn thing.

I'm not living shit privately because I ain't got nothing to goddamn high. Like some of these people that think they they want to be so secretive and like, who the fuck is y'all? I ain't no motherfucking A-lister. I'm going through the same shit y'all go through in the chat. I'm going through the same. Did you go through what? Maybe we all go through the same thing.

I had for what we got. I go through the same arguments I go through. We had the same fights y'all have. And yeah, I think that, like I said, it's okay. But as somebody that's gone to therapy for a number of years and many of times is that the therapist always says, Shannon, are you arguing to be right or are you arguing for right?

She say there are truly different things. They both end with right, but what are you arguing to be right or you arguing for right. Ooh. So you say there are two different things. They both end with right, but what are you arguing for? Right. And you have to be able to communicate with your partner, both in a language they can understand. Right. If you speak in Mandarin Chinese and she's speaking Spanish or she's speaking Portuguese, there's no communication

there. And you've got to have communicated. See, when you have uncommunicated expectations, you have expectations for Raeel. Raeel has expectations for you, but they aren't communicated. See, this is where the problem starts to arrive because there's uncommunicative, well, I thought Ochio was going to take me this. Well, she ain't telling me, so how am I supposed to know? See, sometimes we get to the thing where you should just know, no, baby, just tell me what you want. I can't read your mind, man.

Just tell me what you want. And I'm going to try to do what I can to make sure that happens because I want to make you happy because at the end of the day, a man, when he's looking for, I'm talking about a real, a woman, it's not an educational Joe. It's not a body, it's not a beauty, it's not the sex. Can you bring in peace? Cause all those things, all those things,

the finest, beautiful, I mean, hanging from the chandelier, the ceiling fan, he can turn it on high. But if you don't give that man peace, eventually he gonna leave. But you know what? Also in turn, one of the things I learned, especially about myself now, like I like what you're talking about, but I'm gonna take accountability on my end. So I got to bring. Oh, hell real piece my goddamn self.

Yes, I got that. I got bring up piece. So normally if I'm bringing up piece, then once I once I cross that threshold in that door that I call my safe place or my safe haven, whatever it may be, then I do get peace. Now I'm fucking a goddamn donkey, and I'm expecting to, I'm expecting to bring me peace when I'm acting a fool. Oh no, it don't work that way.

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You're right, Ocho. Relationships are tough. You got to work at it. There are very few people. It's, relationships are tough. You gotta work at it. Just like there are very few people. I mean, just look, you gotta get in football because you worked at it. You practiced at it, you studied it. You have to take that same approach with your relationship. You're married or whatever,

whatever you wanna call your relationship, you've gotta put that same kind of laser focus into that to make sure your partner's happy. She brings you peace, You bring her peace. She gives you happy. But happy. But your partner can't give you happiness. Oh, he was like, when people say I found happiness, happiness is not something you find as in happiness is something you create.

Yeah. Yeah. You create happiness. And in the process of you being happy, you where you need to be. Right. First, it can't move you off that. They're just going to bring you more. Yeah. And that's that's that's a lot of that's a lot of pressure putting on your partner too. That's that.

And that's that's for y'all in the chat. You know, you're always relying on your man or you boys for Lowney, you woman to make you happy. But happiness come from within. You can already be happy. Create that you got the US is already got to be up in you because if it ain't in you and you rely on someone else, you know how human nature. Human nature,

human nature lets you down every time that Ocho isn't it? I said, this is what you got to be careful. You got to be careful what you tell people, because if people know what make you tick, they can wind you up and make you tick when they want to. Now, if a person can make you happy, what else can they make you? Say it. Yeah.

Yeah. I mean, it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter how you flip the pancake. It's still flat on both sides. Yeah. They'll play with you like a puppet. Pull your strings when they want to. Yeah. They play with you like a puppet. Pull your strings when they want to. Yeah. So I'm happy for you, bro. You know, hey, bro, you know, I'm pulling for you. I'm looking,

I'm looking to go. You know, your boy looking to go. You know, I might pull up with something. You know, I might pull up with something. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Listen, Faeberg is on there. He's on there. Faeberg. Baby. She's trying to pretend like she's sleeping. That's okay. That's okay. You know, I look at, I look at, I look at. Yeah, it's gonna be now. It's gonna be now.

You know, I'm gonna step out, you know, your old shape. Old show, you step out there. What you gonna wear? What you gonna wear? With old stuff. You know, you know, I mean, you're gonna be on the beach, so I need to pull out some linen or something. Yeah.

Yeah, you gotta have some linen on. Yeah, you know, I have a linen. Hey, listen, when your boy pull up on that, what you gonna to pull out some linen or something. Yeah Okay, yeah, you gotta have some linen on yeah Hey, listen when your boy pull up on that white horse, you're gonna see me about from 300 300 300 yards away coming What yeah white horse i'm pull up on the white horse. Oh, yeah, and you know, she go Oh, oh, oh, she gonna have a little one of those little sundress. Yeah sling. You know, you know, you know, you know You know the most sundress, sling it, you know, you know, you know, I think, you know, you know, and you know, the night before I will be on that roast, I will be on that pack that roast bar, the ruby. Yeah. Yeah. OK. Yeah.

So, yeah, I'm going to be on the spot now. You know what? You got to be careful bringing a plus one there because you never know what's going to be there. Oh, hey, I'm just throwing, I'm just, listen, I'm just throwing it at it because you know, Oh, she got the red eye. I don't see it. Okay, okay, okay.

I don't see it. You know, cause you know, you boy, where, hey, Ocho. When I get on the sparks, I work for an oil company. I be drilling. You know what I'm saying? Ocho, I'm going over the sparks. I be drilling. You know what I'm saying? I'm going over sparks. I'll be drilling. I'm just saying. Hey, Texas go. Y'all need to hide your boy.

All right. All right. Hey, D. Let me stop. Oh, sure. Oh Joe, new details have emerged on why Dan Campbell and his family surprisingly listed their Michigan home for sale, including the docking of Campbell's by his daughter's school, school, schoolmate. One student shared a post revealing that Campbell's home address,

Bloomfield Hills, Michigan on Snapchat, following a 34 31 loss to the 49ers in the NFC championship game with the caption dumb FCK trying to go for it. Individuals then appeared at the family's home shortly after 11 PM, excuse me, which scared the daughter who left for the night per the police report. According to the report, the daughter's classmate was identified on January 29th and questioned by investigators. The classmate said he and his friends were distraught by the lion's

laws to the 49ers and that he found humor in his Snapchat post. You see that? Now you put people live at risk. They're in danger. And you say, Hey, it's funny. Yeah. I think they call that like Dachshunds like SWAT, right?

SWAT and like, I think they do it the game at the time when they streaming. Yeah. That's real dangerous. That's real. Yeah. That's real Yeah, you can't play like that. I mean, well, you know kids kids especially at that age. They don't know damn better They know better. I mean, I mean they know that's it We did pranks we knocked people mailbox down right we totally people people cars and stuff like that. Egg the car, egg the house. Yes, we're not gonna put someone in harm's way where police might go in their guns, drones and somebody get hurt.

Yeah. I mean, I understand pranks, cause hey, been a part, hey, I've done them, done them. Lock people in their room, you've put a rubbing alcohol on there and set it on fire, you won't come out, we gonna burn you out. You know what I'm saying? We did all that.

But come on now, you know the police gonna come. Come on now. And then you thought it was fun. Really? They learned all that from you, on Tube U, YouTube, all that stuff like that. Kids, just be careful. Just be careful. I mean, you put somebody in harm's way.

It's different now. The joke, like I said, I mean, because here's the thing, Ocho. And people document everything. Yeah, like I said, we knocked people mailbox down. Oh, hold on. What about what about what about in I in I, you know what? Knocking. Huh? Nick Nick. you know what knocking. Huh? Nick. And Lee and running.

Oh, yeah, yeah. Oh, not not. Yeah, somebody somebody let you have it. It's in knocking. I'm trying. I'm trying not to say the word, but there might be another another word for it. But yeah, somebody let you have it. People because it because, oh, Joe, everybody don't play the same. No, yeah, you're right. That's why you have to. That's how you have to be careful who you play it. People, because it, because, Ocho, everybody don't play the same. No, yeah, you're right. That's why you have to,

that's how you have to be careful who you play with. Yeah. Everybody doesn't play the same. Everybody, because, and I tell people, what is a joke to you is death to somebody else. Boy, listen. You keep on, oh, that's a joke. Okay.

Two people need to be laughing for it to be a joke. Because what you think is funny if somebody had to handle your ass, now all of a sudden you're like, man, it wasn't that serious. Clearly he thought it was, or she thought it was. You can't tell nobody how to relax. You don't, right.

You get to control actions. You don't get to control consequences. Cause that would be so unfair. I mean, think about it, Ocho, you get to do something to someone and then you get to control the consequences of the actions that you did. How fair is that?

I commit a crime and say, you know what? I think I should do probably like three, four days in jail. I did something and then, no, no, no, it doesn't work like that. Right. So just the kids, kids, be careful, be mindful. Actions have consequences. And then, oh, I'm sorry, that's not what I meant. It doesn't matter. Intent only matters to the defendant, because a lot of times murder,

manslaughter, involuntary negligent homicide intent only matters to the defendant because a lot of times murder, manslaughter, involuntary negligent homicide intent only matters to the defendant. The victim is just as dead. So whether you meant to do it or you intended to do it, the outcome is the same. Yeah. So kids, just be careful. Be mindful of stuff like that. That's all I'm asking. I understand your kids.

But at a certain point in time, you know, right from wrong. Yeah. Ding dong this. That's, you know right from wrong. Yeah. Ding dong ditch. That's what I was trying to say. I would. Yeah, I I was I want to say Nick and knock him, but I was trying not to say the N word. But yeah. Oh, yeah. We used to prank call you call you call the convenience stores.

You do prank calls. Hey, excuse me. Do you have Prince Albert in the can? We sure do. Well, you better let him out before you suffocate But you know back there Oh Joe see you everybody was on the line so you could just like Like if if you was my neighbor, right you got on the line. I can pick the phone up and hear you talking to real I Would ask you man Oh Joe how much longer you gonna be on the phone up and hear you talking to real I Would ask you man. Oh Joe. How much longer you gonna be on the phone? Cuz I need to use I'm expecting to call it such-to-such time because if somebody was on the line

It would ring busy So you couldn't get a call as long as somebody come everybody had was on that line until everybody got individual line, right? so I was like I Pick up the phone and such the neighbor down down the road. They'd be talking I was like and excuse me miss Twenda. How much longer you gonna be on the phone? My granddad is expected a call Okay, okay, son. I tell tell Barney. Oh, hello And they would get off the ball. Yeah, but but uh

Ocho yeah while the Dolphins wait for to it to recover from his concussion The team is unlikely to trade for a quarterback who might be able to field the starter. Per ESPN's Jeremy Fowler, the Dolphins making the trade doesn't seem likely at this point, despite Tua being out for at least three more games while low-end reserves. One source told Fowler that Miami is not much into at this time when talking about a potential trade. Ocho, do you like the decision of the Dolphins not to look for a trade or trade partner or a viable option while Tua is on the injury reserve?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't think they need to. I like the, I like the pickup with Tyler Huntley. I like it. I think he, he's efficient at the quarterback position. I'm, listen, he's somewhere. He's not Lamar Jackson, not even close to Lamar Jackson, but he's something like that. Obviously he's a dual threat quarterback. He can throw it. He can wing it now because we've seen him play. We've seen him play in place from Lamar Jackson

when he was with the Ravens. He can run it, he can throw it. And I think because the tools that he does have in the supporting cast is so good around him. I think he can win the Dolphins maybe two to three or maybe three of the four games until two has come back. I'm serious. I really believe so.

I really believe so. Who are the next Dolphins, the next three opponents? I guarantee you I'm right too. I guarantee you the next two, the next three games they went two or three. And it's gonna be because the Tyler, because the Tyler Hunt is left. Titans.

And is on. Patriots. Colts. Win. Cardinals. Win. Okay, now that Colts game might be a little, that Colts game might be a little that Coles game might be a little different But that page is the Patriots do play pretty good defense now Yeah, they play pretty good. They they do play pretty good defense But I'm telling you the Dolphins gonna beat they gonna beat the Patriots They definitely be the tights because we'll let this go gonna give them the game. Oh, you know, he go get you

Go get you the game But I like Tyler Huntley. I think they're gonna be alright till the goddamn two will come back. Okay. Tickets for the Dolphins. Oh Joe. What? Tickets for the Dolphins Titans game on Monday night are just $33 and continue to fall.

Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait. $33. What are they playing at? Not at, not in Miami. They're playing, what are they playing? They gotta be playing. It's in Miami. Not for no thirty three dollars. Thirty three. Oh, you might want to see, you might want to fact check that.

Thirty three. Oh, you talking about nosebleed. Hey, for a hundred and fifty you can sit in the suite. Boy. If listen, if a suite ticket is $100, I'm going to the game. Well, get ready. Go ahead. Wait, that's they play this Sunday, right? You play Monday night, right? Is it Monday night or they play Monday night?

OK, I'm going to the game. I'm going to the game. I'm gonna go to the game. I'm gonna go to the game and leave a half time so I'm not late. Yeah, I mean, I mean, look here. Hey, I'll tell you what you do. Yeah. Just go to, hey, just drive to Miami, go to the gas station,

leave your windows down and go in there, get your bag of chips and a soda. When you come back, there'll be full tickets on your dash. Yes. down and go in there get your bag of chips and a soda when you come back there'll be four tickets on your dash that's all you gotta do you that's all you gotta do you're going to get your bag of chips and a soda leave your winners down and when you come back there'll be four tickets on your dash. Hey, now that was a good one. That was a good one. But we talk about the Dolphins, man.

We talk about the Dolphins. Oh Joe, man, you know how physical the Dolphins fans are. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, they are, they are. They are, they are, they are. But listen, we still got Waddle, we still got Reek, we still got A-Chain, we still got Moster. All right, we get a little competence at the quarterback position, we gonna be all right.

We gonna be all right. Oh, Joe, y'all dealing with that storm. Everybody that's on the East Coast that's being impacted by Helen. Any Hurricane Helen? Yeah. Helena? A little North Florida.

Helena. Florida, like up there in Tallahassee. Stay safe. Jacksonville. Stay safe. And when they tell you guys you need to evacuate, make sure you evacuate. People don't I mean, you know, responders don't have an opportunity

to come back and get nobody. So if they tell you, I get it. You want to be tough. We're going to ride it out. We rode out Andrew. We rode out this one and that one. Come on. Yeah. Let's just let's just let's let's be smart.

Let's be prudent. Um, life is more valuable than any possessions. Right. Uh, and uh, let's just be smart. But, uh, us at nightcap, we're praying. Yeah. For everybody's safety. And so hopefully no one gets severely impacted by this storm. And so, uh, Oh Joe, yeah, the big homie, bingo legend Willie Anderson is racing Joe Burrows defense. He's telling teams in sports, anyone blaming Cincinnati early season world on quarterback is flat out wrong.

That's ridiculous, bro. Like these are games, but they're in these games because of him. It's just totally ridiculous. I mean, I saw some comments that Chris Canty made after Joe Burrow had a good game. Now we have started slow. He did give away a fumble. I think a fumble that might've cost us a game. Right.

Other than that, there have been a few mistakes, a few errors, a little bit of inconsistency and slow play to start the season. But one thing about Joe Burrow, he always picks up as the season goes. He always gets the rhythm, the chemistry with himself, the offense and the receiving core. It gets going as the weeks go on, as we saw against the commanders, even though it, you know,

they lost, he had a good game, as did Jaden Daniels. But, uh, I think, I think it's going to be all right. I think it's going to be all right. I understand what Willie's saying. Obviously it is to say that Jerboa was playing bad and then losing because of him. Yeah. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, but Ocho, but here's the thing. The thing that I want to give, look, we not have to debate Tom Brady's what he's been able to accomplish.

But I think some of the, one of the greatest thing, one of his greatest attributes that he could understand very early in the ball game, what was needed of him. Right. You see, they, see the difference is Washington went three or three in the red zone. Yeah.

The Bingles went two or four. Two or four, yeah. See, that's or three in the red zone. Yeah. The Bengals went two or four. So for you there, see, that's the difference in your ball game. Remember field goal gets you beat scoring touchdown. See, you can't settle for field goals when the other team is getting touched down. Yeah. So that's it because this is what we've always done. I remember Peyton Manning would outplay Tom Brady stack wise.

Tom Brady would win because he would get the ball into the end zone in the red zone Everybody blamed Brady. Everybody blamed Peyton, right? Even though Peyton had the superior stats So at the end of the day are the Cubs did that play bad Sunday against the Ravens. Do you see that? Did they see that numbers? But at the end of the day, you got to get the ball into the end zone

because you see your defense. If I defense could just give us one stop, right? That could alter it. But if that's all I need, but if they don't, I can't kick field goals because now I'm allowing too much separation to get in between us because the likelihood if we can't stop them and we're neck and neck,

what's the chance we gonna stop them? Well, Joe, we get down 13, we get down 15. And you see what happened. They tried to make it a ball game and what did Jaden Daniels do? He came right back on the field. Oh my beer. That's what he told him. Hold my beer. So what did you see that guy there and throw with their oh yeah yeah yeah yeah with their free runner coming and he sat there in that pocket and let that man and drop.

He's impressive. I was very impressed for a young man to go on the road, but Ocho, you got to remember now, he had 55 college starts. 55. That's a lot of starts. That's a lot of starts, Ocho. The moment wasn't too big, the lights weren't too bright, and the crowd didn't get too loud. I mean, shit hell, playing the LSU, you should just, that transition into the NFL should be like, be right, you should be right at home. Hey there. It's Michael Lewis, author of Going Infinite, Moneyball, The Blind Side, and Liars Poker.

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