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Episode Date: December 5, 2025

Shannon Sharpe & Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson react to the Detroit Lions beating the Dallas Cowboys on Thursday Night Football, Lebron James 10 point streak has finally come to an end after 1,297 games, and University of Buffalo wide receiver Victor Snow runs out of bounds for no reason and much more! Subscribe to Nightcap presented by PrizePicks so you don’t miss out on any new drops! Download the PrizePicks app today and use code SHANNON to get $50 in lineups after you play your first $5 lineup! Visit https://prizepicks.onelink.me/LME0/NI... 00:00 - Introduction04:45 - Lions beat Cowboys26:07 - LeBron’s Streak is Done, Son39:19 - University of Buffalo WR Victor Snow trippin47:52 - Darius Slay won’t report to Buffalo (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Jamir Gibbs had three rushing touchdowns. David Montgomery had another one and a couple of field goals as they win this thing by the score of four. 44 to 30. Dak Prescott was 31 to 47, 376, one touchdown, two interception. He was sacked five times. They ran the ball 24 times for 91 yards.

C.D. Lab left the ball game after taking a vicious hit. He went up to catch a pass. His head hit the turn. That was the first thing to hit, Ocho, and I knew he wasn't coming back because you saw the rig of mortars, the stiffness of that hand. It was a no-go. Although he possibly wanted to come back,

that wasn't going to happen. Ryan Flanour came in. He had nine for a buck 15. So again, the Cowboys have two receivers over 100 yards, but it wasn't enough to overcome the onslaught that the Detroit Lions put on them tonight. And again, it was their defense that let them down. In the three-game winning streak, Ocho, they were middle of the pack. We know what they were before that winning street.

They were almost at the very bottom. They were 31st in yards allowed and points allowed. They kind of reverted back to what they were in the past, and it caught up with them again tonight. And so the Lions win, keep their points. playoff hopes alive and damn possible any chance the Cowboys had let's see if the Cowboys can win out there's still a chance they got four games left can they win out and catch the Eagles or somebody else in the playoffs will it remains to be seen but also the Cowboys in order and I think

the Cowboys have a good team but they got to get some better defensively they've got to get better defensively and I was just going to say that defensive they've been playing good on they've been they've been playing good defensively but obviously and games like this, this is one of those games where when they needed it most and they had to have it, where they actually had an opportunity despite having two turnovers.

Obviously, you know you paid double for those. Despite having two turnovers, you had a chance to come back in the game, but you weren't able to stop them on defense when you actually needed it. And for the Lions, I'm not even giving credit to the goddamn offense. I know the offense scored 44 points tonight.

I know they scored 44, but that goddamn defense, Unk, Muhammad played very, very well. He had three something back. And I'm not sure what the officer. I'm not sure what the Cowboys office was doing. Understanding that if you have anything over three step drop for that, you have to chip and help the goddamn tackles out.

You got to help the tackles out because in space one-on-one, they're getting beat every goddamn time. It seems like they were doing that with Hutchinson, but they forgot about Mahomet on the other side. Because if you noticed, Ocho, they were doing a lot of chip, a lot of doubling on Hutchinson, but they were leaving Mohamed single block. And he made him pay.

He made him pay. And that's what he should do. But for me, Ocho, the defense, look, hey, Cowboy fans, I want to know, did Quentin Williams or Kenny Clark did they play tonight?

Because y'all had a lot to say to me and Ocho a couple of weeks ago, oh, I thought you said this trade wasn't going to help. I thought you said this trade wasn't going to do nothing. We don't need Michael. Now I want you all to tell me the Cowboy Defender that got 12 and a half sacks. I want you to tell me the cowboy defender

that demands a double team. They do realize that Michael Parsons leads in double teams. He's the third. He, Miles Garrett and T.J. Watt are like one, two, three, the chips. So I wanna know what defensive player that you got that commands a double team and you can say, you know what? Hey, he can double, so that means somebody else gonna eat.

Tell me the guy. Cause I'm looking at the sense. I'm looking at all these guys. If I didn't know better, if I didn't see it with my own eyes, I was where Queenty Williams. I was for a quick Kenny Clark didn't play tonight. Y'all keep, mocho,

De Ron Blan ain't the same. Did you see, did you see Gil shake him on the side? Wait, wait, but you know what? You know what happened right there? I'm not taking up for him. But you understand right there,

the sideline is your friend. If the sideline is your friend, you know that, you come under control and stay to it, stay to his inside shoulder. Why are you running full speed trying to tackle somebody

that you know is shifting? and you already know Gibbs got more moved than a $1,000 hooker. So you know he's going to be letting him. Ocho, you already know this. He shook him so bad. Ocho, he shook him so bad. He just laid on the ground out of bounds. Chat, y'all saw it.

Chad, if I'm lying, Lord tape it right now. Y'all saw what he did, pretend like we didn't see it. But we saw it. Listen, call the rule number one as a defender. I know, listen, I know I don't play defense, but even I know. You got to come to balance. The shiftier the player is, You got to come to balance, you know, and you take away the angle.

The sideline is your friend right there for Durand Blan. You don't, you don't run in there hauling ass out of control. You go, you're going to lose that every time, 10 out of 10. Oh, Joe, what you want to talk to the, you want to talk to the, uh, the lion's defense. How many times the CD Lamb spin out? You know CD LAB, oh, Joe, that's his move. You know CD Lamb going to spin out and come back inside. And they overrun it every time.

Mm-hmm. Yeah, I think the Cowboys have to look, I know you saw this. When they kicked that field goal, they got mad at George, they got mad at George Pickens. They took him out on the drive that, what you call him, Illinois ended up scoring because Pickens loathed on the route and that threw it to him. And that was looking like, what are you doing? And that next drive they came and they went down to score in Florida, Pickens didn't see the field.

Now, he has a tendency. He's been great thus far. But he has a tendency to drift, Ocho. When he doesn't get the ball or things are not going well for him, he has a tendency to drift. He's been sensational. And if they had won this game tonight, without CD and with PIC being somewhat quiet, man, I had to put that way, way on the, but I had to put that,

I might have put Dack in second place on the M.B. Because to do what he did, man, he made Flanoi, like, hold on. You mean to tell me Flanoi can play like that? Listen, Unk, no disrespect to Illinois, but, you know, it's easy when you're one-on-one. And once CD he went down, you know what the game plan is from that point on. Hey, we're going to shell, we're going to kill, we're going to two, we're going to 55. God damn, wherever three go, wherever three go, we're putting two on him. It don't matter.

We could play underneath, we could play over top. We have to make sure he's not getting the ball. And I think probably, I'm not sure what coverage it was when he did loaf. But that was like, listen, I'm coming to you anyway. I'm coming to you anyway. Yeah. right before to have, Ocho, Tesla, he had it. But what you're gonna have already made it with mind

that he was throwing his ball out of the same time. Ocho, he cooked 34, I don't know 34 name, I don't remember Ocho, but he had to be so bad. I'm like, bro, how you get beat on, boy, they might have cut you on the sideline. If you gave up a touchdown, Ocho, with four seconds and a half. Yeah.

Oh my goodness. In that situation, it's all about situation awareness. Keep everything in front of you. Keep everything in front of you. to make cheap, simple, simple. But I don't, oh, Joe, I don't understand. I mean, when you go on the field, you kind of understand, as an officer player, okay, do we have timeouts or do we not have timeouts?

What's most important? Is an extra three yards more important or preserving the clock? Preserving the clock, obviously, excuse me, is more important because we don't want to burn our timeouts until we absolutely positively have to. So you understand that, so you understand where we are in the field. Where do we need to get, okay, hey, what do we need to get as far as a field goal? Do we need a touchdown? Because my mind is like, even though we might need to get the position on the field for a field goal,

my mind is touchdown because I don't want to leave it up because of so many things, a misnap, he hook it, he shank it, it get blocked. So if we put the ball in the end zone, I'm not worried about the kicker unless he's bringing his ass on the field to kick a PAT. As a defensive team, as a defender, Ocho, you got to understand the situation. Okay, we're up. Nothing cheap, nothing deep. Okay, if they get a first down, we're going to make them get five, six, seven first down.

But what I'm not going to give you is a chunk plate. I'm not going to give you, let's allow you to get what you need is like six first down. I'm not going to allow you to get four of those in one plate. I'm not going to let you throw this ball over my plate. I'm keeping everything in front of me. But I don't think enough guys have understanding what they call situational awareness. You've got to play situational football.

And not only that, that has to be talked about understanding the situation. at hand. Someone has to say something. Someone on the sideline has to communicate that. This is what we going to do based on the time. And if the coaches don't say it, at least the players got to have some type of situational awareness and knowing what we have to do in this situation. Hey, I was always the guy, hey, guys, hey, first down, first down, get out of bounds. We only got one timeout. We got two timeouts. We have no timeouts. Guys, get out of bounds. Don't fight for extra yards because the last thing you want to do, Ocho is fight for extra yards and then somebody rip it out.

Or that clock keep going and you can't say no time. Get your ass, get your ass out of bounds. At this point in time, the clock is our enemy. The team is not our enemy, the clock, because a lot of times you just run out of time. If we'd had 10 more seconds, if we'd had 20 more seconds, well, let's just make sure the clock remains our friend and we get out of bounds and we can get to stop it every time. But look, when I look at the Cowboys,

now everything is really contingent on being able to keep CD. But, Ocho, they got some issues on defense. They got some issues on defense. They don't rush the passer well enough. They don't. That touchdown that the Gives got at the end. Ocho, that was too easy. Somebody was supposed to feel.

What the fucking Mike? What was the, what the guy? I don't know. The guard had to pull and lock him up. That's the only way. If I'm not mistaken, I think that was the center that pulled, I think it was a center. He didn't even be able to, I think it was the center.

I think it was to make it like that. If the center does pull and grab the backer, the safety got the field right away. But it wasn't nobody over there, but 34. So let me get it straight. I got a center or guard and I got Jermere Gibbs with the defender in between me and Gibbs. I like that matchup.

I like my chance of getting that ball in the end zone. Yeah. But they got some, oh, Joe, they have some issues. They got to address. Jerry, you can't fool yourself. Yes, you guys had 400 plus yards. But you gave up 400 yards, and you gave up 44 points. Had you not blocked the kick you, they gave up 47.

You gave up 47 points. Hey, you know, Unk, they played good the past few weeks, though, the defense has been the talk of the town. Obviously, the offense was playing good, but the defense has been the talk of the town. The defense gave those that are the Cowboys fans. It gave us hope. They even gave me hope the way they was looking.

and it's because the team is built to play with the lead. That defense is built when the cowboys have a lead and they can just pin their ears back and go because now you put the other team in a one-dimensional situation. I have to throw the ball. I can't do nothing else because I got to get myself back in the game. Now, what they were able to do against the Eagles

when they was down 21-0, that was phenomenal. In order to be able to come back from 21 down, a three score deficit, you got to play good defense. You have to. They showed up in that game. But the difference is, we already know,

they knew the Eagles are going to get conservative. The one thing you know about Detroit, they're not going to get conservative. Now, I thought they got a little conservative on, they ran the ball twice into the line, and then golf dropped back and hit Armand Ross St. Brown on the crossing route.

And, you know, he almost split it. But golf had nine incompletions. he really should have had eight because he hit Armin Ra between the one and the four and he dropped it. I don't know what he was thinking. I don't know if Armin Ra didn't think he was going to throw that back.

The Titan flashed before him. I think they was in the wrong place at the same time. I think that was Jamo. Wasn't that a Jameson? Yeah, that was Jamison. I think that was Jamison that was a little higher. They was in the same.

And it seemed like as soon as Arm and Rod got because you know it's coming, because the back, the back is just going to there that he don't really know. So as soon as you get behind behind that backer, the ball's coming. And it was almost like the ball surprised him. It's like the ball was on his weight.

And when he got behind the backer, it was on the. You know the funny thing about it? I think he saw J-Mo at his peripheral vision. It was like, well, wait a minute, now, am I running the wrong route? Or you running the wrong route? And it threw him off. And for the Cowboys, don't? And I think because the Eagles are playing so bad right now,

I think the Cowboys are going to be okay. I think the Cowboys are going to be okay, but they're going to have to win, especially with the schedule that they have left, it's winnable. It's winnable. especially with the way that offense is playing is a contingent on how long C.D. Lamb is out. I'm not sure

he's going to have to go to concussion protocol because it's... Oh, he didn't concussion protocol, but they get a week. They play next Thursday. They got the bike. He got a time. He got time. He got time. But boy, they're going to be cautious, Ocho, because Ocho, you see that? Yeah, I saw. That ain't no thing. That ain't no thing, Ocho, I got ding and, you know, I was able to get up.

Boy, hey, when that brain does that, that brain really hit up against that skull. They're going to be, look, I understand, and Jerry, they're going to want him to go. But, boy, you don't want to be fooling. You don't want to be fooling with a concussion like that, you're right, you're right, you're right, you're right. I mean, listen, but I, I knew the moment when I saw the replay,

and I saw his head the first thing to hit, I said, oh, he's done. He ain't coming back in his one. He ain't coming back in this one. But the Cowboys, look, the Cowboys' offense, they're going to look, I like Giovante Williams, The offensive line, okay, the tackles a little. That's not the starting left tackle that's normally there. Steel has, and still didn't play bad.

I thought he did a pretty good job with the exception of a few plays where Muhammad, Muhammad got through. But, oh, Joe, they got to get better defensively. They've got to. They've got to try to find a premium pass rusher. Oh, whoa. It's too late to find anything. No, no, no.

I'm saying, I'm not. I'm already talking about, I'm talking about 206. I ain't talking about this year. Hell, ain't nobody they can get. There ain't nobody they can get. Maybe Trey Hendrickson. Maybe, I mean, he's available. I mean, I don't know, maybe the Steelers are willing to go get off T.J. Watt.

But they've got to do something. And they still have draft capital. They still have a first round draft pick. They still have some pieces that they can possibly move. But they've got to get better defensively, Ocho, because. I like what you just said right there, too, huh? I like, I like that. Let that marinate a little bit.

But Cowboys fan, what do you think about that? T.J. Watt to the Cowboys. That would be nice. That's a nice little piece. I'm not sure if that's something that is feasible. You know, because, you know, you got to pay for that now. That ain't, that ain't just know anybody. We talk about a future Hall of Fame. Well, they got, they got a first-run draft pick.

They got, they got an extra pick from the green, from the Packers. So it's still a possibility. So, you know, a draft pick, or maybe it's, takes a first and a fourth, but to get a premium, a guy that you have to account for. Now, Clowney hurt them out to being out tonight. He had a hamstring injury and it's reported that he warmed up before the game and he wasn't able to go because there have been times that Clowney's been playing really well. Offensively, I think they're good.

I really do. I think they're set. I love Ferguson. I like Ferguson when they had Donton Shokes. And I remember having a conversation with Skip, I said, Skip, Ferguson is better than, it's better than Shokes. Yes, sir. And he proved that to be not. Shost is not a bad guy, but he proved

that he was, and the Cowboys went with him and gave him a long-term deal. But everything is contingent on George Pickens. It doesn't matter what you do. Because CD is not enough by himself. You put CD and Pickens and Ferguson together with

Javonte Williams. That offensive line is good enough. He's not great, but it's good enough. But, Ocho, I don't care how great your offense is. Without defense, you can't give up for it. You can't give up what they give up. And it is too easy. I thought Blan, and I thought Blan,

Joe, Blan being getting work this year. He has. I think they're going to move on from Diggs. I think he wants to move on. I think they want to move on. Maybe a change of scenery will do well for both guys. They need a play. They need a linebacker.

Wilson is not the answer. Murray is not the answer. Look, I think the D tackles are good. You know, I don't know if you're going to keep Ziggy. I don't know if you're going to keep all three of them, Ziggy. Kenny Clark and Quentin Williams. I don't know if you're going to keep all three of them, but I think they're very good.

But you need a guy that can, hey, you need a hell raise on that edge that somebody's got to count for. Now, I'm not saying you've got to have a Miles Garrett, but you have to have a tier two guy. Miles Garrett is in a tear by himself. Yeah, basically, basically.

But they told me, Ocho, I mean, Jared said he didn't need Michael. That's what Jerry said, Jerry, and convinced the fans. The fans even started talking bad about Michael. Most definitely. Obviously, you know, anyone that's a part of that the Cowboys organization, anyone that's a loyal fan, they will always see and find the wrong,

the wrong or they find the right in agreeing with the owner who owned the team that they support instead of actually using common sense and understanding how great that player is, even when things don't go right, making excuses, well, he wasn't able to do this. You know, Jerry saying, well, we weren't able to win with him. Quentin Williams had, what do you have, four tackles where's Kenny Clark? Kenny Clark, Kenny Clark, Kenny Clark, Clinton, Clark, Kenny Clark had three tackles. But one sack, Ocho, you got, you got, first of all, you already know,

Ocho, you already know Jerry Gough is immobile. You got to get him off that spot. You can't let him just let his back foot hit and throw it. He'll pick your ass apart. I think if anybody who can't get him off his spot, if anybody will go make him uncomfortable, It would have been a young, young bull, God damn it. His hamstring, his hamstring. Oh, uh, Adavia.

They've been clowning. Clowning was hurt tonight. And I don't want to be disrespect and say he's their best pass rusher, but he's been the most consistent. Maybe not getting sex, at least adding pressure on passing downs where it mattered most. Yep. You're right. You're right.

And tonight, it didn't happen. And, look, obviously, you're going to play extremely hard, but, but this one hurt. Yeah. This one, this one hurt, Ocho. This one really hurt, because you really, you really could have put some pressure on the Eagles and a lot of other teams. In the NFC, yeah, most definitely. How bad do you think it hurt them being that other?

Oh, well, they got a 5% chance. Let's see, the Eagles, because here is it. Who do they even buy next? How many, how many, the, the Eagles have eight wins. So, Cowboys, the Cowboys, uh, theoretically they still can catch the Eagles and win the division.

They went out and the Eagles, go two and two. I don't, I don't see the Eagles continue to play bad, though, for some reason. I, I just don't. I see them, even though we're in week 14, 15. I don't know, I don't even know what goddamn week we in. I see them turning around and making the plays offensively and defensively when it matters most.

Defensively, they didn't look too good last game. They didn't look good too good. But how long is that going to, that going to happen? Well, you know what comes out, right? You know Carter's out. He had proceeds on his shoulders. Yeah. So that back end is solid, though.

Even with Dalian Carter being out, the back end is solid. who the eagle got next but oh so i will say this i don't know if i've ever seen a call what ferguson got called for i've never seen that call before the swim through yeah all you don't know in order when you change the direction and so when you you the eagles have the charges on sunday oh my goodness and they still don't they have the commanders again and they have the giants again and they have the Giants again, right? No. They have the commanders twice.

Okay, they got the commanders twice, and they got the Raiders. Okay. And the Bills. The Raiders, that's a win. The Charges is a very good game. You're going to have to put some points up. You've got to put some points up.

Mm-hmm. I don't know. And then you got two commanders and the Raiders. I mean, the commanders, it's Jay and you got the Bills. And the Bills got to fight hard because they're three, they're two games, three games right now behind,

behind the Patriots. They lose another game, the likelihood of them winning that division, so they got to fight for a wild car. So they're trying to do everything they possibly can. Like I said, I just, the call that would look,

I didn't think the game was officiated too well. I mean, Pick can't get that. I mean, I get you going to get this face, but you got to let it go. Ocho, you got to let it go. Ocho, you're out here like this here.

You got the man face, man. Joe, everybody can see this. Your arm extended, the man, hand down. Yeah, yeah, right. You got to, like, you got to make that quick. Yeah, if anything, open that thing up like this. Yeah, let it go. Yeah, hey, but he grabbed it.

So, but I thought that was playing well, considering that he lost CD Lamb, and he was under the rest the entire night. He got out of some stuff because I thought had him dead to write a few times. But he was able to keep himself alive and make some plays down the field. But defensively, you can't give up 44 points. You give a 44 points. There are not very many games that you're going to win, giving up 44 points,

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ever to get your podcasts. So, Ocho, something happened that hadn't happened since January the 6th of 2007. LeBron James did not score double figures.

So after 17 years, 1,297 games. 2,997 game streak is over. He's sitting at eight points. He had the ball in his hands. He had a chance to shoot the game winning shot. If he makes it, he gets 10. If he misses it, it goes into overtime. But what does

LeBron do? What LeBron done is, he's done his entire career. He always makes the right play. They double AR because AR had it going tonight. He had 44. He had 44. The ball swunk, the ball get to LeBron. He drives the ball. They come. He swings the ruin in the corner and for a wide open shot. Now, see, everybody's going to say, hey, good job, good job, good job. But if that was you know who, I don't call, there was two players, data took the shot. But LeBron James has always made the right play. He's gotten criticized by some of the great, saying, look, I know that's the right play.

But in that situation, you being the best player on the court, I want you to take that shot. But that's not how he's wired. But I have a question. In situations like that, think about situation, Michael Jordan, kicking it out the curve, understanding, making the right play. I think it's about having awareness and when you're supposed to take that shot and when not. There are times when being the best player on the court,

you take that shot. You take it. But if you don't have a good look, it's no need to force a shot when you know visually and you can see out your peripheral, okay, I got Ruby sitting over there in the corner. I'm going to drive. I'm going to draw everybody to do me. I'm going to kick that thing out so we can get a clean, open shot

that he can hit to win the game. And the fact that people criticize LeBron making the right play is the fun that's the funny part it makes no I think the thing is Ocho maybe who knows

I still think he makes the right play but he struggled from the field tonight I think he was what three of 17 so he didn't have it he didn't have it going tonight the last time Bronn scored under 10 points Twitter was less than a year old Brian it was two years old

George W. Bush was the president The iPhone didn't exist. Instagram didn't exist. Harry Potter series wasn't finished. Kevin Durant wasn't even in the NBA. Nick Saban had just left the Miami Dolphins. Well, God damn. Let that sink in.

That's how long it was going to be in 1,297 games. Hey, well, you were Nick Saban with the Dolphins. I remember him there because I remember the story. 2007, right? Hey, please tell him you heard the stories by Junior Seahill and him having problems with all the players with the, at the Dolphins, because he, he was very strict. It's coached style.

He got a coach, he got to coach kids. Hey, Unk, but that Nick, a Shannon Crowder told me some goddamn stories, boy, I'm talking about I was in tears. I'm talking about, Ronnie Brown was there also. That's when they was running, I think that's when they were running. The Wildcat? Was that with the Wildcat when they was running the Wildcat or the next year? But anyway, LeBron James were 417, 0,0, or 5 from 3.

which tells me he wasn't aggressive, Ocho. You know why I say he wasn't aggressive? Not one free throw attempt. But he did have 11 assists and no turnovers. AR had it going, 13 to 21, 5 of 11, 13 to 15. He had 10 assists, five rebounds. Remember, I told y'all, Austin, you think he'll make an all-stress?

So you think he'll make an all-stop? Absolutely, 1,000%. He's averaging like 27 points a game. And then the number two seed in the West. I have a question. Is he able to average that that much because LeBron is taking a backseat and roll and facilitating the ball as opposed to picking and choosing when to takeover games or when they take over themselves?

With him and Luca. Yes, yes, because the ball is mainly in him and Luca's hand and LeBron is playing out the ball. So it's not very often that you're going to see a guy that's as credentialed as LeBron be the third option. But he underhealing. Well, I mean, I guess Kareem theoretically was the third option by the time they got to him and magic and worthy. But look, it's been a struggle for him.

I think the thing is him not being able to train this offseason like he won with that sciatica. Missing as many games he did, he can only miss two more games. So I think it's out of his like, he knows he can only miss like another two games in order to be an all-NBA selection or make any of the teams. I think that's out of the way. window now. I just think the thing is, and he's probably going to be the first year that he averages under 20 points a game. He'll probably be somewhere around, you know, 16 to 18 points a game. And I don't, I don't, I don't see him much. I don't see him playing pass this year. I mean, listen, I wouldn't, I wouldn't make that call, you know, this early. You have to remember,

it's still very early in the season. And the fact that he wasn't able to have training camp, he might be bringing himself along very slow. I understand. and that Reeves and Luca can carry the goddamn load and pick and choose when he wants to insert himself into the game. And the fact that he has a self-awareness to not have that, not allow his pride or his ego to get in the way

and being able to facilitate and picking and choosing and allowing the game to come to him. If the shot is there, I'm going to take it. If I'm out of rhythm like I was at night and I wasn't able to get my shot flowing, I'm going to get everybody else involved. Most players, obviously those that are hungry they're going to shoot it and keep on shooting no matter how many time they miss

well he i mean he shot 17 times i mean he only had he had the second most shot attempts on the team they just wasn't falling tonight and his shot hadn't been the with exception of maybe a handful of games that game that he had 25 the shot but other than that it's been a struggle for him to find a rhythm to get into a rhythm um because look looka's dominating the ball lucas normally going to take about 10 to 12 shots in the first quarter if you notice, Luca always gets out to a hot start. He's averaging somewhere between 16 and 20 points in a quarter. So he's getting a lot of the shots.

Austin Reed's getting a lot of the shots. So it's kind of hard. He can do it. Like he said, the most important thing is for them to win. But it is tough. And, you know, look, I'm old enough to remember, I remember, excuse me, chat, when Jerry Street got broken, consecutive games and passes, he was in Seattle. And it was sad.

And he still holds that against Bill Kow. because he felt Callahan could have gave him an opportunity. What was Jerry Street? Like 270 games? I think it was like 270 games. I don't think anybody going to break it. I think Jerry caught. I think Jerry had a catch for like 18 straight years.

Damn. 19. 200s. Think about it, Ocho. He caught a pass in 200. and 774 consecutive games. From 85, December of 85 to 2004. You think somebody going to break that record, don't you?

I mean, it'd be difficult. Because first of all, you've got to play at least 19 seasons as a wide receiver. He's the only one that's ever done it. Imagine catching the ball every goddamn game for that long. That long? Hold on. No. Okay, Ocho, how many receivers have ever played 274 games? Let alone catch a pass.

How many have played that many games? And how many would be able to stay healthy that long to be able to even come close to breaking the goddamn record? Let alone playing 19 years or 20 or whatever it may be. Hell, I think I don't even think I played. I don't, I think I played like 210 games. Dang. And he caught a pass. Every one.

every single game. Crazy. I remember when Pete Rose Street got broken, he was had a streak, I think it was 44 straight game. Getting the hit. Well, you know how difficult that is? Yeah, yeah.

That's why Joe DiMaggio's streak ain't going to be broken. 56 games. Yep. And then he got, then he went out and I think he had another street where he went 17 straight games. but look at the end of the day when you say

you play the right way because had he tuck in the shot you know what everybody was saying he's trying to keep that streak alive he passed it up make the game win and play where he was afraid to miss he ain't got the killer

he's not an assassin he's not in a killer so he's in an unattended a situation damn if he do damn if he don't Yeah. So it's, they got to win. Rui hit a big time shot. Ruy 12 points, he was 4.9, 2 or 3 from 3,

none bigger than the one that he hit. DeAndre Aten has been playing really well. I love the way DeAndre Aten is playing defensively. He's sliding. He's getting isolated a lot. He was out isolated on Brandon Ingram. I thought he was an unbelievable job of sliding. I thought he'd do an unbelievable job of sliding.

A unbelievable job of challenging. Obviously, you know, at the rim, being able to put the ball in. He was 8 for 11. He had 17 points, 8 rebounds, two blocks. You can live with that. You can live with that. But the streak is over. LeBron, start another one.

Hey, hold on. And you know what? I just saw somebody in the chat, you know, the chat going so goddamn fast. Somebody had the nerve to say, I know ain't nothing wrong my eyes. I had the nerve to say, oh, LeBron is breaking down. down. I mean, I could have swore LeBron just averaged 25, 25, 8, and what was it last year? Yeah.

He averaged 12. The first year that he was 24.7. So it's the first year that he didn't average 25 in 25 seasons, in 20 seasons. But 24, 8, and 7 ain't bad. This year, it looked like he's going to average somewhere between 16 and 18 points a game. But 16 and 18 points a game when the most points anybody's ever, first of all, go look at Vince Carter, what he's. average in year 22 go look at what anybody has ever averaged in year 20 look at what somebody's

average in year 19 so nobody's ever had these kind of number than the likelihood of somebody doing it again is not very likely yeah but okay yeah he's okay he's 41 41 look at all the miles that he's got on those legs all those playoff games all those minutes played yeah they catch up with you they absolutely do even if it does catch up with him somebody like that that is 41 he's breaking down and still betting everybody else that gets even close to that milestone or be a that's played that long.

You still average in 16, which is probably going to be more than 16 once he continues to get his legs up underneath him. Hell, he's just coming back. Who has the next closest street, the most consecutive double figure game? But if somebody like, they're like a thousand, like a thousand games short.

Maybe even more. Cooper flag was 15 days old. The next closing, Ocho, KD got 267. So KD is a thousand and thirty seven. So KD is a thousand and thirty seven. games you think katie's going to be around to play another thousand 30 games but that's tough that's tough that's 13 more years so he'd have to play 31 seasons oh he hold katy now what 30 30 what

he ain't playing another 13 seasons kd 39 36 okay so that means he be playing with he's 49 sgna is the next closest at a thousand of 170 damn hey man I mean that that achievement and longevity is remarkable. It is. If a Lenovo gaming computer is on your holiday list, don't shop around.

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That are hurting right now. Everything's going to be okay on the other side, you know, just push through it. And, you know, ironically, the root of the word spirit is breath. Wow. Which is why one of the most revolutionary acts that we can do as peoples just breathe. Next to the wound is their gifts. You can't even find your gifts unless you go through the wound. That's the hard thing.

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It's never too late to turn your fantasy season around. Subscribe to the NFL Fantasy Football Podcasts on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Ocho, you got to see this. Video has surfaced of the University of Buffalo wide receiver Victor Snow stepping out of bounds on his way to the end zone. Snow had nothing in the way of a touchdown except himself. He stepped out of bounds in the third quarter.

or down by 15. Take a look at this. Okay, he got it. Look at it. I see it in the corner. He runs out of bounds. Oh, he not? Wait.

What is he looking at? Nothing. Is he standing the damn Jumbotron? He's staring at the parlate. Hey. I would love to hear the explanation behind that. please tell me they have a conversation with reporters after the game

on why that happened. They will. Bro, bro, you became out better not even catching it. Come on, what are we doing? What are we doing in that situation? Were they losing? He became out better, Ocho.

He became my better dropping the ball. Were they losing? They were losing by 15. Something ain't right. Now, I don't, hey, something, something ain't right. But we need to go ahead and, uh, check it, check, check us, check his, cell phone.

Check, text messages. And the third quarter, Ocho is 2813. Oh, hell, no. I'm, I'm, I'm for the, I'm for the house that. And buddy, buddy, buddy, way behind him anyway. You can't, you can't say you was running out of, you, you was, you didn't try to to preserve the clock. We, hey, we wanted, hey, we wanted to keep the clock running.

You down. Something ain't right. And I'm, hey, oh. I've never seen that before. That's a touchdown. And you run out of bounds? Well, it should have been a touchdown. It's not a touchdown,

but it should have been a touchdown. That's what I meant. And I think the thing, I think the thing is, Ocho, is that when you make it so obvious, a lot of times, like, you know, do you see guys are betting, oh, he's going to throw a pitch for a ball,

he's going to throw a pitch for a strike, or he's going to hit the batter. Those are things that are, you know, those are normal plays that we see every single day, in a baseball game or drops or we don't see this ocho we don't see a guy run out of bounds with his teeth we see a guy take a knee i mean people get upset when guys take a knee and all they got to do they're going to hit their parley because they're going to hit the spray it and guys take a knee

at the goal line and people get upset in this situation you're behind this is an opportunity for you to get closer oh cho now you score a touchdown you kick the p at now you're down 28 to 20 I'm confused by this I thought I was like oh okay at first I thought it was I thought they were winning

but then when I go back and look at it and I see all the comments they're like hold on they were losing why he run out of the bounds and they losing I'm asking that very same question why he run out of the bounds

they lose it the first thing I said is was he looking at this Jumbotron because looking at the goddamn Jumbotron and looking up I can that's the only only way I can see you actually losing, you know, awareness of where you actually are on the field.

Ocho, he on the left side, Ocho, he on the left side line. The drumbo tron this way. I can see if you're on the right side of you looking at the jumbo trons and you, but you look at your eyes carrying you this way. So your body's not going to drift out of bounds. And if you look at it, Ocho, he puts the blink on. He turns and runs out of bounds. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

He, he point shaving, huh? Also, and the thing is, he ran out of bounds and quick and turned around and came back in. Like, yeah, even his teammate grabbed him like, bro, what you doing? Chad, I know y'all saw it. Y'all saw his teammate grab him, like, bro, what you, what you doing? He was 86. I wonder, I wonder if they scored on that drive. I don't know.

But I know, I'm surprised the NCAA or the FBI had a conversation. They're going to have it. They're going to have it. They're definitely going to have it. Somebody going to have to have something. Hey, let me see your phone, young fellow. And all the messages you deleted, we let, we can, we can't, we can't do it. We can get them back. Don't worry about it. Yeah, all that's in your, that's all that's in your eye cloud. Yeah. It's, it's, it's crazy. It was crazy that, that was, that's what's going on now.

I don't know how you get it back, Ocho. I don't know how you build back to trust that what people are seeing are real. Because for the longest time, Ocho, you know, hey, I had people tell up, go home and people like, man, man, it's sharp. That game fixed any, man. They told such and such to do this. They told such as I was like, I don't know what they told somebody. They ain't never told me nothing. So I didn't get the memo.

I don't get all that. But now after what's been coming out and that some people are like, okay, they didn't play or they got the under or they did this man trust is everything in the public when they're dealing because they got to believe what they're watching is real or else is w and the funny thing about it too long is when i think about it i think about all all the hours we put in and how the hell can it be scripted how the hell can it be how the hell can it be rigged you know based on the work we put in well who the hell they're going to talk to because it's 11 people on the field and it's hard to control the outcome of a game you know unless it's the person

that actually has control of the ball most of the goddamn time yeah but think about it though joe we just say it now i'm i'm not saying anything but i said i've never seen a call what they called on margerson i've never seen the guy go arm over and he get called for a holding i mean for an office and passing the parents what the refs doing tonight um that's what i'm saying They're the ones that can impact a game the most. They absolutely can impact the game the most. And that was ridiculous. I just, it's just sad.

I just hate it. And I just hope that like, you know, I'm saying, hey, he just had a brain malfunction. And he just tweaked. He started tweaking and he went out of bounds on show. But this is not a good look. This is not a good look for college sports. This is not a good look for sports because everybody's going to start seeing anything that doesn't seem on the up and up.

people are going to start questioning everything. They was already questioning it. Now it's about to go to a 10. Yeah, most definitely. But it was, uh, ugh. Damn, son. Oh, Joe, I mean, bro, you're 20 yards

from a tub. Something ain't right. Something ain't right. The boy, like my granny, just say something in the milk can clean oh hell no hey

hey he's point shave huh you know come on oh your man it's definitely not a good look now we look

maybe I don't know what's happening I don't know if he's been suspended I don't know if he's had a call from his conference I don't know if he's had

a talking to for his coach I don't know if any of the higher ups the FBI of whomever in charge of of gambling

probably the FBI I think that's the that's the FBI department. It's an investigation, so the Federal Bureau of Investigation. I don't know what has happened, but this is not a good look, Chad, and I think you guys understand, too. I think this is a situation where this is not, this is a horrible, horrible look.

And it could be a big-o-nothing, but it damn sure looked like a big-old something. I never know big-o-nothing my ass. Uh-uh, absolutely. What you're not going to do with the solar intelligence, especially not just me, not just you, the people are actually watched the game with football and never seen anything like that. And if you want to insult our intelligence, hell, we can get the CIA involved too then.

So what did they do with it? Do we know what they did with him? Did they suspend him? Did it do? Okay. Oh, Joe, one day after being claimed by the Buffalo bill on waivers from the Steelers, cornerback Darry Slay has informed the bills

he will not be reporting to the team Slay had been a healthy scratch in week 13 and seemingly fallen out of favor in Pittsburgh so the two sides of mutually agreed to part ways. Adam Shepter reported that Slay wants to continue to play. Since Slay was released

between the trade deadline at the end of the season, NFL rules require him clear waivers before he could become a free agent. That did not happen as the Buffalo bill put in a claim. on a 34-year-old. Slade does not want to play in Buffalo.

However, Tom Pelliserro reported that Slay has informed the bills. He will not report to the team and is contemplating retirement. The bills are likely to let Slai manipulate his way out of the situation. When Anquam Bowden signed with the team before the 2017 season, when the playoff drought was broken, he then retired after two weeks before the season began. He later asked the bills to release him so he could play elsewhere. being refused to grant Vodan's request

and retained his rights. Ocho? Well, I think players don't want to go to the bill. What's wrong with Buffalo? They got Josh Allen. Ain't nothing wrong with Josh Allen. Going to a team like that, you have a quarterback, whether it's a chance you're going to be in contention.

Defense is decent. You know, I would love to go play with Superman if I was the defense of back. But I think Slay might be chilling. Slay might want to make a move. and go back to Philly. He might want to be able to, you know, have a chance to go back to Philly and help him out in some way, shape, form of fashion.

That might be it. Or maybe, you know, I just don't see and understanding how much Slay loved the game. That has to be his move. I think it's a chess move. Obviously, we both have the same agent. I don't play anymore, but still, we both have the same agent in Drew Rosehouse, and I know Jew is going to give him the right information that he needs if that's what he's trying to do. And Drew would do him due diligence behind the scenes, behind closed doors

so Slay can get exactly what he wants. And I personally think if it was going to be a move, I think he would love to go back to Philly as opposed to Buffalo. Yeah, they know that. That's why they're not going to release it. You think they have played hardball? So, yeah, for sure. For sure.

That's why they claim it. A lot of times people would claim players, they get released. They would claim players. So I want to make sure you don't go to a competitor that somebody that we might have to play. What if we release, what if we let him go, then he goes to Philly.

We end up seeing Philly in the Super Bowl. And now we got to deal with Slate. Now we got to deal with it. So no, I don't know I don't. Because all they're going to be on the hook for is the last, what, whatever pro rated of a $1.3 million left because I think he signed an $8, $9 million deal.

He got seven and a half of it up front. So the rest of him, so it's really nothing. So, yeah, I agree with you. I think that's what he wants. He wants to go back to Philly. I don't think he ever wanted to leave Philly. No, absolutely. But, you know, they, you know,

they went young. Cooper DeGie and Mitchell. You heard me? They went young, huh? They weren't young. They did, of course, of course. It's the nature of the business. I think Slay is still a very, very good quality corner,

very good quality corner. And having that veteran presence in that locker room, Honestly, for me, I wouldn't want to leave either. I wouldn't want to leave. But the defense has been playing well, hopefully. You can only play so many people. You got a quarterback on a big contract. You got two, both the receivers making big time money.

Look at your offensive line. Look at how much Lane Johnson, Ma Lauder, Dickerson. Look how much money they're making. He has a team-friendly contract, though. He didn't at first. They released it. They released it. And so now,

we got guys and they had to resign bond yeah they did you got jalen carter coming up you got mitchell coming up you got uh jordan davis coming up you know i'm saying you got mitchell you got you got also you can't keep everybody as good as you draft you're not i don't care how much money you got and how much you want to keep everybody you're not going to be able to keep them you're not going to be able to afford them that's my dog hey wait a well maybe slay might come back next week. He might come back next week because the bills do have to play the Bengals.

You know, I would personally, I wouldn't want to come back a new team and have to deal with Chase and Higgins. No. You don't think so? It's really cold up there. That's football weather, man.

Not for not for no significant other having to sit outside. They got suites. Man, please. You don't like the sweets in Buffalo? The sweets and Buffalo, nice. Man, I may they try to pay money like that, Ocho. You don't think so?

You know how much sweets cost? Not that much. But a sweet ain't number 10,000. Clearly, you didn't have one. No, you didn't. Not for no 10,000. Yeah, yeah. How much?

Not even, not even in Cincinnati. Can you get a suite for 10,000? I'll probably say the cheapest suite would probably be a couple hundred thousand. Now, what, come. Ain't no suite costs $100,000 now. Come on now. Boy, the suites, the closer you get to midfield,

they cost a million dollars. What the hell are you talking about? What, man, what is you talking about? Ocho, you do realize most sweets, they come 12, 16, 18, 24, 30. That's what sweets come in. You know, it's funny, you know what's funny?

Is I actually had a suite and I don't remember how much it costs. But I guarantee you because as, as fiscally responsible as I was, if it was anything like the numbers you said, I would have told my home boys and family, but y'all got to sit your ass in the stands when they get to November D.

How many, first of all, how many, how many people fit in the suite? Let me see. It's two rows of the front. You got all the food. Then you got the bar, you got the bar stool. You have to pay for the food.

The food don't come with the suite. You have to pay for the food separately. Everything comes. I mean, it's part of the package. No, it's not. Yes, it is. You have to pay into, you get the suite,

and then you have to pay extra for the food. No, I got a discount. I think that's what it was. I got a discount. You got to understand. What's the average price? Let me tell you something. Listen,

I'm I'm you can't get it for per game no yeah you got to get it for the season all eight games you got to get it for all eight games you got to understand for me they might have gave me a discount because I wasn't just a player you hear me I wasn't just a player for the bangles I was a part of the brown family you hear me I was it like I was I was so integrated in the part of the family I'm not saying I was adopted but that was the point where I won't change my name to Chad Brown Johnson like that's that that's the that's the kind of relationship I had with ownership I can't I can't wait to hit these numbers uh yeah uh yeah closer to the center field because I remember me and Ray had one this was in 2000 and we were next next to the owners box and we played a quarter of a minute and the food did not come free oh hell hey hey I like this oh yeah I like this topic right here boy hold on I can like this topic this is a good topic oh this a good topic oh this a good topic oh we're gonna have to come we're gonna have to

I got to put a call in to see how much. I'm calling right now. Hold on. Come on, answer the phone. Don't do me. Don't embarrass me in front of people. Come company. Mm-hmm.

Oh, he embarrassed me in front of company. God damn, T.J. Because, uh. Damn, he. answer the phone now you got me curious a quarter of a million for a suite yeah because we we like obviously the owners on the 50 yard you know the owners on the 50 yard yes so we got we had the suite right next to it so probably ohcho in between the 20s is where you're going to pay the most obviously you start getting the corner and then the end zone that's because you see what they call said

at the Super Bowl. Them sweets at the Super Bowl be two, three million dollars. That's crazy. And honestly, at the Super Bowl, those aren't the actual fans. Oh, no, no, no. It's basically a corporate event on. That's all it is.

And the thing is, Ocho, you have to give your suite up. If the Super Bowl is in your state, let's just say for the sake of argument, you got a suite in Cincinnati. And the Super Bowl is in Cincinnati, that's not your suite. That belongs to the NFL.

Yeah, you're right. You're right. They got to make their money, they got to make their money. They're not playing about that. yeah I let hold on wait a minute I mean I I'm just like I'm like God damn a quarter of a million what oh yeah oh cho it's expensive man but look most of the time you know who had them the suites the quarterbacks really high

dollar guys the big boys and you know you don't want you know you don't want your wife's you know because when I was there the only guy that had a school week with John. When I was in Denver, the only guy to have a sweet with John. Many of the way to pay that high. I mean, that's not how. Everybody had to sit outside to have family members. Yeah. Because it wasn't. Bro, he was the only one making big money like that, man. You can't afford no pay no $100,000. You got to realize $100,000 in the 90s, but, oh, Joe was a lot of them money. What? Yeah. I mean, it's a lot of money now,

but I'm saying, I'm saying back then when you have people not making $100,000, when I first my first two years I didn't make a hundred thousand a year I made 63 and 73 damn so hey give me them 125 dollars tickets because I think yeah I think I think my first year I think the tickets were like now see it was like 75 dollars what's you think tickets cost now what's the difference the ticket prices now probably 200 250 for players tickets because you still get two comp and then you can buy and then you can buy as you can buy as you can buy as many as you want because it's coming out that goddamn check and hey yeah well they don't show you them deductions too it it all depends on who you playing because there are a lot of times

like you playing kansas city and the raiders nah or you playing the cowboys uh-uh they they up the price you have to buy you have to get somebody else tickets because but you know my tickets were always in the same area so you know my mom come and you know my girl so i got you know i'm get like right there you know when I went out you know I ain't have nobody I ain't want them to sit where my family was said so I put them you know I put them over there other side you over here okay you ain't want nobody you want to you want to see uh okay okay okay where your mama said don't worry about that don't worry about that don't worry about yeah yeah you're not sitting with her so

Damn, huh? Hell no. Okay. No, everybody can't get to be. That privilege? No. So you're not the type. When you're dating somebody, everybody meets your mama?

Hell no. Okay. Well, you know, that's very important because you know your mama tell you about your girl, you know, before anybody else. She knows she can read her. I'm trying to think once. I met Cookie in college.

She met, yeah. but it takes them now then you ain't just fin to meet off the real because your mama gonna tell you the truth and baby this ain't the one that didn't happen

yeah okay I got you I got you but you know because that might eh oh joy it just might be a might be just a

maybe just a convenience store we just stopping to get some candy funny thing about it you heard what you just said it might just be a convenient though your mama let you know

that's the run it's gonna be she gonna know I already knew that I don't need mom to tell me that I don't need mom to tell me that I don't need about to tell me that I do that going on.

Okay, my bad. Let me get out your business. My bad. But you know, hey, you know, but everybody wanted to go to the game because Broncos been sold out. Broncos got the second-longed sellout behind the Washington team. So tickets ain't easy to get. Everybody can't get tickets going to the Broncos game.

And so, you know. Is it still like that right now? Yeah. Especially not that you're winning. I know it's like, I know the tickets. price is crazy but the bronco's been sold out I mean the Broncos been sold out since I don't know 70 75 77 something like that been sold out for damn than 50 years yeah damn y'all fans loyal okay but I'm

every look look I'm sure she told uh I'm sure she's told people no but she would really like the first girlfriend my You know, my mom met, my mom met in the game. She gets there, like, oh. Hold on, Mom. I said, Mama, I said, Mama, you're going to be sitting next to my girlfriend. So, okay. Tell us more about Cookie, huh?

No, I ain't under tale. Huh? Ain't under tell. Story time. We got pay time. We got two hours ago. Nah, we got them tired of tale. Nah, who we?

Hey, I know, hey, I can tell you like her because every time I say cookie, you start blushing. Nah, no, no, no. I see you. I see you. Okay. I already told you about cooking I told you I watched it for about

I watched it for like two weeks coming to the cafeteria by herself I mean she had some girlfriends because I knew one of her girlfriends was a cheerleader so I knew her girlfriend for a couple years so when she got there I was a sophomore I was a junior when she was a freshman and I watched it go I watched it come

go into the cafeteria by herself she'd leave walk back to a dorm the girls dorm a freshman dorm was Lockett Hall I watched it because I said I watched I'll be in the bathroom. I go to the short hall and I'd be looking at the bathroom through with it. Okay, okay.

Can I tell you something real quick before you finish? This sound like some loving basketball or shit. Yeah, I like that. I don't know about love and basketball, but, uh, Ocho, I said watch it. Just like this here. Damn. I'm just waiting her. I said, I know she got somebody.

I know somebody gets good up. Right, right, right, right. So you know what? I never forget that day I was like this here, Ocho. I said, shit, I'm going to go. I'm happy to go, I hit that dough. Oh, open that red out there. I said, hey, hey.

Say, hey. I said, what's your name? She said, my name is, I was going to call her cookie. But she said, I was like, hey, you got a boyfriend? She said, no. I say, where are you from? She told me she's from Brunswick. Oh, she's from Jersey.

Brunswick, Georgia. Oh, my bad, my bad, my bad. Okay. I said, okay. So we talk, I said, I'll see you around. She said, okay. Oh, what? She's, no, so she's like, she's like, what's your name?

I said, Shannon. She said, Shannon Sharp. I said, yeah, she's like, mm-hmm. Okay. Oh, hey, oh, you're in there. Hey, okay, okay, okay, you was in there because she already knew who you were. Yeah. When you said Shannon, he was like, oh, Shannon Sharp, you already know you game.

But everybody, hey, everybody, everybody knows. Okay, okay, okay. That's not, I don't. So, you know, I watched it. So the next day, I see it at the class walking to the hallway. I say, hey, how you doing? She said, hey. She smiled.

I said, okay. But I had told my roommate. At the time, I had already told my room, I said, that's going to be my girlfriend. He said, uh, the light skin chick with the short hair? I said, yeah, hold on. She's going to be my hair. Hold on, like the little pixie cut, like with the little curls. Oh, like in the 90s.

Oh, um, tell me some more. Oh, hey, boy, this is good. It's getting good. And so I said, you like football? She said, it's okay. So you need to come back to me. She said, okay. She said, what's your number?

I said, I ain't telling my number. I said, I'll be real easy to the spot. It's go, boy, you're talking spicy. You don't know what I'm talking about? I said, I'll be really, I'll be really easy spot. You know who I have. Hey, I say probably the first two to three minutes of the game. there'll be no doubt which one I

which one I'm out. Hey boy talk your shit boy. So man and that's how I started you know. Hey but I, hey and everybody knew I was for real about her cause at that point in time Ocho, hey

I said I need you do me a favor she said what you're doing? I said man they'd be tripping with them the washing machine to dry I said people be stealing your clothes to be taking stuff out. I said, can you walk, can you take my clothes

to the laundry man? She said, okay, sure. She said, but I don't have no car. I said, I said, oh, oh, right, oh, right. Hey, right, hey, that's how you go fishing right there, huh, you hear me, huh? Hey, wash my clothes for me, and people be stealing it.

You threw, you through the bait out there and she, and she bent quick. You read that thing right on there, what? I know that game. I used to use that line too. yeah man so so so uh i gave the keys to i gave it the keys to the car and ain't ain't ain't man ocho how we screeching and all of a sudden my car now i got a 200 i got a 300 cx t-tops how about how's she going to come where we brought football practice with the windows down the top out

and blow the horn. Hey, um, let me tell you what that's called, um, let me tell you what that's called. You know when you walk the dog, right? You know,

you walk the dog, what's the first thing the dog do? They, they go, they find their territory and they, they pee-

She was marking the territory. She letting the boy know. She bargained. Boom, y'all stopped trying to holl at me. You see why I'm met in the teatop

with a piecey cut. I know she probably had on some shades too. You know, okay. Okay. Yeah, her and her and her and her boyfriend. Yeah.

What you think about rekindling that flame, though. Nah, bro. You don't think so? Nah. But listen, the story is so good. But I, oh, Joe, I was, look here, man, after the game, we go out to eat, we go to Rines, we go to movies, you know, my, hey, I was, hey,

my brother gave me like, if you, hey, you score touchdown, I get $200, you get $100, you get $100, blah, blah, blah. So I, hey, I have 200 yards, three touchdowns, four touchdowns, man, I'll be straight. So, you know, hey, I'm going to. off campus, you know, we go to, we go out and eat. We go, hey, I'm at Applebee's, I bet, I bet the chilies. I bet, hey, I'm Ryan's. I'm everywhere.

Can I hear you. Got to go to the hotel, you know, got a hotel. Oh, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. You know, I'm big, boss. You got at the hotel, too? Yeah, yeah. Hey, well, I like this story, what? Yeah, I, you know.

Yeah, my mom, my mom, you look. My sister, my, but the thing was, Ocho. I didn't really it didn't really dawn on me it didn't dawn on me my nephew had got sick so he was in August at the hospital in Augusta and my sister's like I got to go to the hospital I got to take Dietrich to the hospital

that's my nephew's name so this was like probably was like probably like March or April because at this time Libby had uh no Libby had me I don't think

living matter. But anyway, so I go, I drive, I say, well, look, I got to go to my, I got to go to the hospital, my nephew's in the hospital. She's like, I go with you. I'm like, you sure? Hey, ain't nothing. Hey, okay. So my brother, my brother was going to meet, he's going to meet me up there. So I met, we met, I met in Augusta, and I remember going to, I asked the lady in the desk, I say, uh, sharp, what room is sharp in? So they tell me, you know, I had stopped and got some flowers and stuff like that. And so, uh, uh, I walk in the room. you know, hey little bro, I said, hey, big sis, hey, how you doing? She's like, I'm, I'm Libby, I'm Shannon's big sister.

She said, hey, how are you doing? She introduced yourself. And we went to get something and she said, she said, well, y'all can go and I'll stay. I'll stay right here. I'll stay in the room with your nephew, Shannon. I was like, okay. So we go, we're walking out of the hallway.

You and Libby. And Libby. Libby. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Spanking. I'm living in the middle. I'm on one side, spank in the other.

And live in an elbowing. I say what? You know what. I see what. She looked at spanking. Smaker? She stopped the hallway four of her. Uh-huh, uh-huh.

She said spanky. Who that girl looked like? Who she looked like? my brother's girlfriend oh they look they look like they could be sisters I'm talking about everything the way they were shaped

the way they were the way the haircut the complexion her teeth everything everything the way she walked everything was a spitting girl don't tell me they were twins now they could have been doppelganger if I didn't tell you

if they stood side by side you couldn't tell they weren't I like this on this is a good story listen ain't nothing like a supportive woman especially when you meet them that early she didn't wait hey hold on she didn't want to wash her clothes she didn't went with you to the hospital huh she don't check two boxes already now this this me this is sounding like someone that I was I was young okay this sound like somebody you can spend a lifetime and it's never too late no oh cho I was I was I was too young I was too immature A lot of, you'd look, a lot of times, like, in that situation, you have to understand.

And what she didn't understand is that all her girlfriends telling her you don't need to be with him. And I told her, I said, all your girlfriends that's telling you you don't need to be with me, I guarantee you they would switch relationships. Oh, talk your, hey, boy. I say, now, you're going to let your girlfriends talk you out of relationship. Stop playing that. You know, misery love company. Misery love company. But, yeah, I was, I was, I was just like, at that point in time, I was still so focused.

And, but I still, you know, I would, you know, I would drive down. I would drive to see her. I would drive in the middle of night to see her. Come back, because I didn't believe, I didn't believe in that. Mary Porter wasn't going to let me, you know, they, they's like, you can, you can spend a night here. I was like, oh, no. Oh, absolutely.

Oh, no, man. Mary Porter ain't going to play that. Because I was she going to say, well, baby, where you stay in last night? Oh, I stayed no, no, no, no, no. That's a no, hey, you're cooking right now, on, listen, it's never too late. So back then you was it before. It is too late.

It's been too late. Oh, sure, that's 30 plus years. Hey, it ain't never too late. We got the fine cookie, boy. We got the fine, we don't. No, cookie fine. Cookie, I know you're going to see this. Honey, let's return to that flame.

Man, look, do you know how many people? How many people are going to call her? Oh, yeah. I guarantee you she'll call my homeboy tomorrow. Cookie, come on, come on, come on, now. Let's get this name back right. Because we got, we got a, we got a double deck of wedding coming up in 2020. No, we got no double deck of wedding.

We already got, hey, O'Shea, she already got, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, Jay already got something. Oh, you got something to work? Yeah. Hold on, you got some cooking? Yeah, I mean, I do, they do you like cookie because I like the story with cookie. Are they supportive like cooking? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Hey, hold on, hold on, hold on, hell yeah. You should wash your clothes. though. I got I got people to come over and watch my clothes. See what happened when you get money, see?

Y'all, you know, you're going to change. Or the dry cleaners. Oh, you got money, money. You take yourself to the dry cleaners? Oh, hell. No. You got, oh, absolutely not.

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