Club Shay Shay - Nightcap - Hour 1: Davante reunion with Rodgers, Lamar’s stats, Jason Kelce smashes phone

Episode Date: February 4, 2025

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson recap the top stories from the NFL season including, WR Davante Adams reunites with his QB Aaron Rodgers in New York, Baltimore Ravens QB Lamar Jackson’s insane stats this season, Jason Kelce smashes a fan’s phone for calling Travis a slur and much more!03:48 - Browns won’t be benching Deshaun Watson11:30 - Davante Adams addition to the Jets13:00 - Bill Belichick is confused by the Robert Saleh firing30:37 - Tua says he won’t wear Guardian cap24:55 - Davante Adams eyeing long-term partnership with the Jets35:24 - CeeDee Lamb responds to Troy Aikman’s criticism39:15 - Can Derrick Henry break the record?43:38 - Christian McCaffrey returns45:29 - Take a look at Lamar Jackson’s stats54:00 - Jason Kelce smashes fan’s phone for calling Travis a slur1:01:47 - Anthony Richardson gets benched(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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that he won't be mentioned to Sean Watson in favorite Jameis Winston. That crestac is planning to undergo season-ending standings on the partially torn Havreen. Suddenly, it was another rough outing for the Cleveland Browns offense, but there won't be any changes made to the quarterback position.

Kevin Stefanski told reporters Monday that he won't be benched Deshaun Watson in favorite Jamis Winston following the 2016 loss to the Eagles. I think there were moments obviously that yesterday I think Deshaun gives us the best chance to win. You're not winning, continues to give us the best chance to win and we need to play really good offensive football

at this position and really at every other position. To be secure. What you think? What you thinking, what you thinking? Now let's think from a business standpoint, you understand how those owners are thinking and you know, Stemming, Stemming, Stemming's the fancy, doesn't pull the strings

on that puppet. If I'm paying somebody that kind of money, he's going to play, even if things aren't going well. I'm gonna try to get my money's worth until I can't no more. I ain't paying, I'm paying the guy 45 million, I'm paying the other guy five to seven million. It's like, it doesn't make sense.

Why would I pay, and put him on the bench making 45 million? Yeah, so I mean, yeah. I mean, so why would they make a change? Why would they make a change? I mean, him saying, him saying that Sean Watson gives us our best chance to win. Is he wrong or is he right? What you think?

Do you think James Winston gives the Cleveland Browns a better chance to win at the quarterback position? How about this? He gives you your best chance to win, but you're not winning. Okay. So how good of a chance is that? You think maybe it's the flat, the flash is a brilliant SECU-T? Just the flash is aren't as consistent as it used to be? He says, I think Deshawn gives us the best chance to win. Continue to give us the best chance to win. We need to play really good offensive football at his position and really good football at every other position to be successful. No crap, Sherlock.

Wow. That is some great coaching. That is, man, that is some motivational stuff right there. We need the quarterback to play good and we need to play good at every other position. The quarterback has to play the best because he got the ball in his hands all the time. He has the ball in his hands every play.

So his decision making and everything he decides to do with the ball impacts and affects everyone else around him, especially offensively, hell, even defensively. And if you make mistakes, then they always on the goddamn field on the defensive side of the ball. I agree. Yeah. He's not playing well, Ocho.

Yeah. Would you keep saying, Ocho, you say he gives you- Me, I didn't say, I'm just saying, I was asking your thoughts on what you think, should they make a change? Ocho, after three years. Yes, sir. I mean, it's tough.

And I get it. When you when you invest that kind of money, a lot of times it's just like anything. It's just like with an investment. When you put a lot of money into an investment, it's hard to get off. Yeah, it's hard to get off it. Because you want to see some kind of dividend. You want to see some type of return on your best. Yeah Sometimes you got to cut your losses. I Got a question for us the heart I got a question for you

So fellas that's in the chat that you listen to me now think about this on much smaller terms, but think about it You're dating a woman. You've been dating for two or three years and you're thinking about all the money and everything you've invested in this individual. And you just and you keep on you keep on trying you keep on trying. If things just don't seem to be working out and going the way you'd like it to go in the right direction. But you keep thinking about all the time you spend all the money you spend and invested in right direction. But you keep thinking about all the time you spent, all the money you spent, and invested in this individual. Are you gonna, are you gonna shelf her?

Are you gonna say, you know what, I don't wanna do this no more? You know why? Let me tell you why. Because you don't want her to be what you think she can be with somebody else when you've invested all that in her. See, that's why a lot of teams don't wanna to get upset later

because what if he goes and be somewhere else what we thought he could be in? You done bought five, 10, 15 YSA, Louis, Hermes, Gucci bags, Balenciaga. You done bought a Will. She won't do right. Damn, but what does she do right over there? But think about this, don't, think about this.

What if you cut your losses to get the bags and everything you bought, because you can get that back, right? And then if she does leave and you get rid of that, think about it not being, that's an expense that is no longer on your, on your tab. It's no longer, it's no longer on your plate and that's okay. I get it.

That's okay. I get it. But a lot of people don't think like that because like you said, you made a heavy investment is just like you buy a stock or you buy an investment property. If you don't want to get off it, Ocho, because you thought this was the run property. This was going to be your Netflix. This was going to be your Google. This was going to be your app. Your Uber, whatever the case may be, that was going to be your time to hit a lick.

And that's the funny thing when it comes to investing that's something that we always need to learn and understand. Everything we invest in, we're not going to get a return on. Everything we invest in done, we not going to get a return on everything we invest in. We're not going to get a return on. So you have to know when the country lost and it's okay. Because at some point that loss for you becomes somebody else's responsibility because they ain't doing right by you nine times in a day and they're going to do right by the next month or either.

So if a certain individual, if a certain player looks a certain way, it ain't like all of a sudden they don't go to another team and they're gonna be mad to, you know, turn around and be somebody else that they're not. I get it bro. I get it. At the end of the day, Ojo, look, we've all, I say all, but I know I've had to cut losses. Yep. It is what it is. Yeah, I cut a loss in a minute. Oh, you don't play, huh?

Oh Joe, it is what it is. Right, right, right, right. You win some, you lose some. Hell, I can't even win them all. Nobody, and I see guys in the chat, chat, oh you sippin', bro, you don't even know. Your woman probably did over right now. Why are you over that problem?

Everybody know about Ocho. The thing is, no guy thinks is going to happen to him or them. If you don't have it, I don't have that. Well, I don't have that kind of ego. I don't have that kind of ego. It can happen to anybody. It don't matter who you have. It can happen to anybody. Because the funny thing about it, based on experience, and I don't mean to be bringing up my past. I don't mean to be bringing up my past, but listen, we family. We family. I can be honest.

Because I was on the other side of the spectrum. So I know it can be done. Because I was number two for years. Mm-hmm. Stay with me now. I can talk to y'all because we family. Yeah. So I know, I know what, I know what can happen. I know the lies, I know the tricks, I know the guy, I know all that. 56 years to experience. So I would never have ego and thinking, Oh hell, shit, I'm out though.

It can't happen to me. Yeah. I fucking fool. I am not. I am not. The addition of Devante Adams, if it can happen at any point, the addition of him I'm a fucking fool. I am not. I am not. The addition of Devontae Adams, if it can happen at any point, the addition of him to that Jets team will help bolster that offense and give an Aaron Rodgers another threat.

An adequate threat that he knows he can count on and can win every goddamn down. I just had to throw that out there before we continue. So I don't know. The football gods, if you're listening, let, let, let's make that happen. I thought tonight, I thought Lazard, I thought he, Garrett Wilson are starting to get on the same page. They're playing really, really well. Obviously Allen Lazard knows him. He played with him in Green Bay.

So he knows, I mean, that throw down the middle for 24 yards, not a whole lot of receivers unless you play with the quarterback knows that he's on the back shoulder. I mean, and I'm going to need to, hey, it's going to be low. It is going to be on my backside and I'm going to be able to go dig it out. Right. But that comes from experience that comes from playing with the guy. But if Devante were to go there, I mean, hey, somebody's going to be the odd man out. Because obviously it's not like they're going to throw the ball 50 times a game.

So the question is how healthy is Devontae? How soon are you going to be able to get on the field? Oh, I know he's been out for a couple of weeks. Oh, yeah. I'm sure he's healthy. I don't think he hurt. He ate Taco Bell. Oh, he helped. He, I'm sure he helped me. I don't think he heard he eat Taco Bell. Okay.

Talk to me. I don't think, I don't think, I don't think he heard. I'm talking about, he going to hit the ground running, you know, count former head coach, six times Superbowl winning head coach of the head coach, Bill Belichick among those who are confused with the Jeff decision to fire coach Robert Sala after just five games. It is a little bit puzzling. It is what it is.

And everybody has to move forward. It's an onus prerogative to make that decision. And clearly that's what he decided to do. But there have been a lot of things that have been kind of confusing. It hasn't been a great situation for the just this year. You can, uh, you can kind of feel that this thing kind of damn damn call. Come on now. Then just the two and three.

We all know, listen, they both had a book. Robert Sondler had a book and Aaron Rogers had a book. Neither one of them was on the same page. We know that we can see the white language, the mannerisms. They run on the same page. When they did the press conference talking about the cadence, they weren't on the same page, a quarterback and head coach are always on the same page at all times. They did not get along. Ed Rogers needs to take accountability, which he has done for his plate.

The Jets are two and three right now. The goddamn Jets was two and three with Zach Wilson last year at the same time at the week five point. Yeah, hold on. Stay with me now. I know he's going to jump on me by that, but I'm just saying. So hey, based off that, you might as well have stuck with Zach. Aaron Rodgers has to play better. The defense is playing well. They're playing okay. I'm not saying they're playing lights out like they were last year, but it is earlier in the season. I'm sure they're gonna get better as the season goes on, but we need a little bit more of the Aaron Rodgers of old. That's it.

We need a little bit more. The mistakes. Yeah. The interceptions. You can't, you can't, you can't do it. You're killing your team. You're killing your team. When, when has he gotten along with any coach?

I don't, I don't even know, you know, it's funny when I think about it. When's the last time he gotten along with any coach? I don't know. You know, it's funny when I think about it. When was the last time he got along with coach? The first time I seen him outside of Green Bay and I'm not sure him and Matt LaFleur didn't get along. I, I, I didn't know. Oh, I'm. Oh, you really, really?

When he, when he went on there and told that, that Matt LaFleur kicked the field goal on fourth down and he said, Oh, and the, the, the, the tie-breaker when he had him on the sideline, Oh, he got along with Matt LaFleur kicked a field goal on fourth down and he said oh and the tie-breaker when he had him in the sideline oh he got along with Matt LaFleur? But I saw I saw LaFleur try to hug him after throwing the touchdown and him and pushing him off and giving that look and I'm like you know what oh damn oh oh he don't like him oh he don't he definitely don't like him. I knew I knew there was a lack of respect for his coach but I I don't get that goddamn they got their mini camp Oh Joe why we making a big deal about that all I know is a big deal because You got yes, but it got cut

Yes, but I got cut. Oh no. Hold on. Hold on Fine, what do you know Jackie for skill? God damn mini cap. Go ahead mandatory mini care mandatory Fine. What happened? Don't you know Jackie for skip the problem? Yeah, many care. Go ahead. Mandatory, many care. Amanda, don't know now. State state. Stay with me. All right.

Oh yeah. Yeah, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just going to that. There's a little bit of context, just a little bit of context and understanding. I don't need no context. I've been said it. Oh, oh, Shannon, you hate that man. You hate that man. When I've been one of his staunchest defenders, I, his ability to throw

the football is unquestioned. I questioned some of the things that he does that are not conducive to winning and leadership. You cannot have that guy on a mandatory mini camp unless it is an absolute emergency. You going to Egypt, I mean, what are you a dignitary? You trying to bring peace to the Middle East? What you say, is he a what?

A dignitary? That's the only reason I will excuse that. If he, a dignitary, yes. If he can bring peace to the Middle East, it all means go, take as much time as you need. But mandatory means that is required. Volunteer means you volunteered. You come if you want to.

It's just like when you volunteer to do charity work, you volunteered. Now, if you do something, they will, the criminal justice system will demand you do community service. You see, you see how they do that? He's required to do 50 hours, 100 hours community service.

Oh, Shannon volunteered at Goodwill. Shannon volunteered at the homeless mission. You see the difference? But everybody made excuses. See, what y'all fit, this what I like fast. Y'all make excuses. When O'Shea said, I get it. I get it.

Let me take that back, Coach. I'm sorry. It's the messenger. Yeah, I see you doing. Y'all ain't got no problem. It's the messenger that's giving you the message because had Coach Belichick, had anybody else said exactly what I've been saying,

nobody would have had a problem with it. But it's because O'Shea said it. And y'all don't like when she be right. And I don't want to pat myself on the back. But Mary Porter once O'Shea said it. And y'all don't like when Shea be right. And I don't want to pat myself on the back. But Mary Porter once told me, said, boy, you got two good hands. You don't need nobody to pat you on the damn back.

Pat yourself on the back. I've been trying to tell y'all for the longest. Y'all see what y'all want to do. Y'all try to see what a lot of times what they're trying to do, Ocho, is that they'll try to undercut you and try to make it about something else. What they try to do.

But y'all came through, y'all came through, Loche, because I've been in the locker room. I've been a leader in locker rooms. Oh, well, Shanna, you ain't in that locker room. And then when it comes out, oh, oh, oh, no, no. When I said that, it wasn't no problem. It was a problem. Now what's being said, everywhere?

And you know what. It's always. It's this. Always need this quarterback not just as a leader but to actually lead by example. He got to be the one. He got to buy in. The quarterback. Don't know why he's will. Then everything else is fragmented. Everything else is fragmented. That's why the quarterback position is so important. And him doing all the right things, because as he goes, everybody else goes. Hey, it's Bobby Bones. Join me and former NFL quarterback, Matt Castle

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Dolph is running back day, Kavon A-chan, wore one against the cold, so Sun in his return from a concussion. But Tua said he will not do the same. Tua said it's a personal choice when asked why he decided not to wear the extra protection. Tua was also asked about those who are concerned

about him putting himself at risk of lasting problems due to brain injury. He said, there's a gray area in terms of what Dockman believes in terms of long-term impact of concussions and playing football is what makes me happy and I'm gonna do it. I appreciate your concern, I really do. I love me happy and I'm going to do it. I appreciate your concern. I really do.

I love this game. I love it to death. I love it to the death of me. Hey, that's it. Hey, chat, let me help everybody. Yep. Hey, chat, listen to me real quick. I'm not trying to be rude.

I'm not trying to come off insensitive. I understand he's had concussions. You know, if you sign up for it, when you play a game of this magnitude, that is as violent as it is. The guardian cap. The fuck is the guardian cap gonna do? I mean, no disrespect.

I mean, no disrespect. The brain itself, chat, y'all stay with me. The brain itself, chat y'all stay with me, the brain itself it sits in a ball a ball of fluid right? No amount of extra padding externally which is the guardian cap can fully protect players from concussions especially if they already had them. Multiple concussions. The brain is already damaged from crashing against the skull over and over and over and there is no amount of protection including a guardian cap that is going to protect the skull in general from the helmet the helmet impact. Just I mean just the guardian cap because

still if you do get hit again even with the guardian cap. Because still, if you do get hit, again, even with the guardian cap on, the ball of fluid is going to hit the skull and the same thing is going to happen. The same thing's gonna happen. So this perceived notion that, oh, you put the guardian cap on, oh, it's gonna prevent concussions.

No, the fuck it's not. No, it's not gonna prevent itcussions. No the fuck it's not. No, it's not going to prevent it. Just like, just like you can wear your seatbelt and still die in a car crash. Just like the air, just like the airbag. You can still die, but it does offer an extra layer of protection. Right, right, right. It's not the end of the world. I understand what you mean, but these players are moving at such a fast rate of speed.

Once that, once you're jarred up there that once you're jarred up there once you're jarred up there even with that guardian cap And that fluid in that and that that that brain hits the skull again It's gonna be the same. It's gonna be it's gonna be the same thing. Uh, I Don't think people people at home. I know you watch football, do you see it? I'm not sure how close you've been to the game. Them motherfuckers moving fast as hell, man. Yeah. The research says the Guardian caps have contributed to nearly 50% reduction and concussions.

The cap can absorb at least 10% of the force of a hit. According to NFL research, that 10% of force makes a massive difference. I ain't buying them numbers. Let me ask you a question. You think they help save lives? Hey, that's why they tell you to buckle up. Why? Oh, how?

Oh, so you don't want that extra layer of protection in the, you want the extra layer of protection in the car, but not in your head. Hey, you hear the numbers? You see how he threw the numbers out for the, for the, for the, for the guardian, for the guardian cat, right? How did you do the research? You have to study your players. So where the research coming at? You had, you have to do it on a player that are actually playing in the game and play a full 17 weeks even, huh?

In practice. They don't even, they hit nobody in practice, man. Everybody practices in them. They go, don't do me like that. They do hit. Let me ask you a question. How much do the seatbelt, how much does the seatbelt reduce depth?

How much does the airbag? It does, like no bullshit. I'm not even gonna sit here and play like that. After being acquired by the New York Jets from the Las Vegas Raiders, earlier this week, Devontae Adams is eyeing a long-term partnership with the new team. When asked if he'd like a multi-year relationship

with the Jets, I hope so, that's the plan. I never go somewhere in hopes of having to find a new home. While Rodgers has been effective throwing the ball together with Alizard over the last couple of games, the outside spots, which has been a huge problem. Rodgers and Mike Williams have not been on the same page in 2024. The Jets offensive suffer. They averaged 304 yards per game. 18.8 points, a little less than 19 points a game. Both ranked 22nd. Ocho, are you expecting- God damn right I'm expecting those-

Rogers Adams. Because there's something you can't teach. There's something you can teach that Aaron Rogers and Devontae Adams have. That's almost seven or eight years worth of work. 76 something, I think maybe 67 something, maybe 76 TV's, 8,000 yards together, 117 games together, and the chemistry that they have. A look. I can look at you and I know where you're going to be at. I know everything you're going to do. Aaron Rodgers could be

blindfolded and whatever the route is, he can throw it to a spot and know Devontae Adams is going to be there every time He's made with the system that they're running. So all he's doing is just it just he going to a new team He's with the Jets and you just plug him in and you just go I mean, I know it sounds simple the way I'm saying but when you have a quarterback that you've played with for so long and You still as a receiver are very adequate at doing what you do. As far as getting open and running routes, he's, he's still one of the best. Despite the lack of production because the inconsistent play at quarterback,

there's nothing wrong with him. I guarantee you they both pick up where they left off at. I think the thing is that they're very familiar with each other. It always helps. Same thing. Yes. System. This is the system're very familiar with each other. It always helps. Same thing. This system. This is the system that he ran in Green Bay. And the players are familiar.

Roger's voice in his ear is familiar. So, yeah, I think they should pick up where they where they kind of left off. What I'm excited to go, at least I hope so for his sake because you know look they have started Givante wasn't the same receiver last year right not right during in not back during in that he lost Derek Carr Aiden O'Connell and whomever the other quarterbacks were that's not Derek. That's not Derek Carr It's a no matter what you think, yeah, Derek Carr's not, he's not Joe Burrow, he's not Patrick Mahone, he's not one of these top quarterbacks,

but he's better than Aiden O'Connell. And his first year with Devontae, Devontae had 1500 yards and was the first team all pro. There's something to be said for that. There's one thing that I hate that the pundits do, the analysts, those that should know the game and they always talk about certain players losing a step or they don't have it anymore. When you don't factor in that, for one, the inconsistent player quarterback affects that,

the opportunities that you normally get when they're putting up those numbers, those good numbers, there's a reason why you're not doing so. And they never factored it in. The first thing they say is, oh, the player's losing a step, when you know that's not the case, instead of saying exactly what it is, well, I'm glad you brought it up,

because we know there's nothing wrong with him. Now, you'll know when a player loses a step by watching him. I'm curious to see how teams are going to play the Jets now. They play the Steelers, so it's gonna be a very, interesting matchup. Joy Porter, Jr. Is he gonna take Garrett Wilson or they gonna put the number one on on on Devontae Adams. So I'm not sure how it's gonna play out. So for his first game back with Aaron Rodgers

this is a good game a good test for them because they're playing a very good defense of the Steelers. So I'm excited. I'm excited. I think I think they will pick up right where they left off at. And there's a certain chemistry when you play with somebody so long that you just can't replicate. And I know, I just know they're going to take some of the things they did in Green Bay, add it to that, add it to the offense and they just going to go to work. Yeah, but let's be real. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Aaron Rodgers hadn't played well this year, Ocho. Yeah.

I mean, I understand what he was in Green Bay, but we haven't seen that yet with the Jets. And it's going to be very interesting to see if he can get back. Now, do I expect him to be what he was MVP seasons? I don't know Joe. I don't. I mean, he's, he, no, I mean, he's, he's 40 years old. So you have a weapon, when you have a weapon like that, you can

count on every goddamn time. If you look, if you've been watching the just games, I've been watching the just games. Like, maybe you got, you got a young bull, like, like 17, man, I can actually get open like that. Like, maybe you got, you got a young bull, like, like 17, man, that can actually get open like that. I really think even post pre a case injury, he could always count on them boys to be open. That's the reason he was able to win that MVP.

He was able to get the ball to them. He was able to facilitate and they were always open. He knew where everybody was going to be. They were always in the right spot. There would be no mistakes. Like you saw the other night where he threw the ball to Mike Williams and Mike Williams wasn't on the red line. I don't like that. Oh the quarterback. You gotta eat that. Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah. What you say is there's a little miscommunication. You know now we get behind closed doors.

Yeah. He really for the side, but he never got back out. If they, if they plan to, and you got, and you got the goal ball, if you're going to release outside, get back out there to the red line. So the quarterback got somewhere to go with it. Eat it. I mean, how many times you think during the course of a game, a receiver runs the wrong route, the quarterback has the wrong read, and people don't know about it because they don't discuss it.

And then what happens? I'm sure it happens. A high and close conference. That's what we do. That's why, that's why Carson's like, hey, oh, you know what? I never forget. Yeah. John was the same.

Right. John was the same way. Troy was the same way. Peyton Manning, you heard Peyton Manning. Right. So quarterbacks are, hey, you understand? Hey, they control the food on the table. Now, they'll control whether you get to eat a lot or a little. Now, how about you want to eat? You better be careful.

Oh, I'm okay. Better be careful. Matter of fact, I'm glad you just said that. You absolutely better be careful. Matter of fact, I'm glad you just said that. You absolutely better be careful. Let me tell you how, how I want chat, chat those you to look at, look at my stats when you get the chance. Look at my stats. I got to remember what year this was, but I was kind of disgruntled. I was kind of disgruntled and I don't think I asked for a trade. It might've been Drew.

It just, I kind of got sick of the media blaming me for the reason we were losing. So they were putting everything on me because obviously I was the one doing all, having all the fun and whatever. So they started to turn on me a little bit, our own media in Cincinnati. And I said, you know what? Well, hey, I want a trade. I want out. Something like that. And I remember the Reds, excuse me, the commanders at that time and Dan Snyder, they offered the Bengals a one for one.

And Mike Brown said no. Mike Brown said, no, we're not going to set a precedent that a player can come in and say, okay, he's not happy and say, oh, you know what? I want, I want to, nah, it ain't happening. So they turned that down, right? I'm just coming off a really good season. Despite me being disgruntled. I don't know what they did offensively or how they weren't able to get me the ball that particular year all of a sudden

Uncle had about 500 yards The whole season I swear to God anyone is maddie No, no, no, no, no 113 yard season and then you know, I getting, the media was on my ass about us losing. Oh, there was nothing. I was healthy. I was completely healthy. I swear for God, if you look at my stats, you look at it, it's thousand,

thousand, thousand, thousand, thousand, thousand, and all of a sudden it's a 500 yard season. I don't know if they found a way like, like to work me out the offense. Oh, I really had 500 yards the whole season. And then the next season I'm right back to 1200. Like it's like in a sense it was like, damn, are they that powerful where, you know what? Oh, you want to play with us?

Okay, we're going to play with you. The whole season. And I was scared to say anything because I already called Ruckus and made noise in the off season. So I'm definitely not going to do it in season because I'm already on thin ice in a sense. And I'm like, but damn, they're not even, I'm like, I'm not even part of the offense. That's what it felt like. And I was still, I was still that boy.

I didn't know what the hell, I didn't know what the hell was going on. So I just had to throw that story out there based on what you just talked about. Well, here's the problem that they have is that can they protect? Now you see Buffalo had relentless pressures on Rogers. What do you think? What do you think the Steelers are going to be able to with TJ White? And he bring? They better chip. What are they going to have to have a game plan?

Because, um, is it brother Tyron Smith on the left side? Hey, listen, no disrespect. No disrespect to him. But obviously I don't think he's going to have to go get TJ Walker. TJ Walker is most of the time he's on the left side. So he'd be dealing with the right tackle, but that young boy, that young boy, I don't know who it was he was struggling with, but he looked like his feet in semen out there. Hey.

Yeah, Vanessa. Man, listen, he's not, why he's not what he once was. We knew what the Cowboys, maybe the injured. I'm not sure what it is. Yeah. I mean, I think the Jeff we're expecting to get up to get the old Tyron Smith. They just got an old Tyron Smith. Cause he doesn't move. He doesn't move. He doesn't hit his feet and kick the slide. to get the old Tyron Smith, they just got an old Tyron Smith.

Cause he doesn't move, he doesn't move. He doesn't, his feet can kick, the slide, the punch. He can kick, he can kick. His hands have gotten lazy. Once was. And it's hard. Right. He don't cover as much ground with the kick. And he's gotten really lazy with his hands.

And you see a lot of guys just wax on wax off and they gone, they buy it. And they never use the tie-retriever. He was so strong at the point of attack. Once he put that hand up and get you in your chest, boy, you ain't going nowhere. Yes. C.D. Lamb responds to Troy Eggman criticism. After Eggman called the Cowboys receiver lazy and terrible, C.D. responded to a sit down interview with

normal coach Jason Garrett. As a leader, I take it in. We got to work. I use it as a building block. If you say our routes are lazy, I'm going to go out there every week and show you my routes. Personally, I take that as constructive criticism as well as you should.

If we can control it, let's go work at it and get better at it. I'm a hard worker. So anything you say that I'm not doing, I'm going to show you that I'm doing. That's a very mature answer. I like that. Very, very, very mature answer.

Now is that what he's really thinking? Probably not. But what he said publicly is the perfect answer to the criticism that a legend from your organization who has won multiple Superbowls, great response. Three great response. And the thing is, is that you have to understand Troy the quarterback. Troy used to get on Mike ass, Michael Irvin.

What he's saying is that like, bro, if I don't consistently know where you are, that's why people looking at us like we crazy. You and I've had the conversation as long as CD and Jack been playing together. They shouldn't have these misfires like they have on Joe. They have, they have misfires like guys that ain't never played together. You know what I think there's due to that also every year. Yeah. Yeah.

I'm missing training every year. Those repetitions that you need in training camp, mini camp, OTAs, all that helps, all that helps in building that chemistry because it resets itself after every year it ain't, Oh, I'm not going to go to training camp. I'm not at training camp. I'm not at OTAs or I'm not at mini camp. But then coming season, you think everything is just going to be bad like that.

It'll be like that. No, but that's your opportunity to work on stuff to Ocho. It's just like, you don't like, man, you know what? I had my best year and I don't work anymore. You work hard to have a better year. So you get back to try to build even a better report. Each year, each year you want to expand, hey, we good at this,

let's see if we can get a little better at that. Okay, we got good at this and that, let's see if we can get good at something else. That's how you build, that's how you get better. And so now everything everything back shoulder fade, end cut, you know, the speed out, all that stuff. But, you know, it's like I said, I don't watch film. I used to watch film when I first started at Fox.

Yeah, I used to watch tape because I wanted to see it. But I just, I had to stop because in my head, I'm too critical, Ocho. Cause I'm like, bro, what the hell is this? That lazy ass route. Bro, you can't, bro, you rounded the route off. That's why the DP came through and knocked it down. And then you put the thing on, he knew you was breaking out.

That's why he chatted it. So I'm glad, I'm glad, CD, I hope CD takes it like, okay, you played the quarterback, you know what's expected of us in Dallas. Criticism comes along with the job. Especially a guy that played like he plays, like he he said Troy is looking at it from a quarterback He's looking at from that everybody saying that bad, but there be guys running be lazy. That's right He don't know where they gonna be Cuz the right a ball I'm back would hear

That quarterback back would hear no joke with his three or five. Yeah And I can't be I can't be back there jacking the ball long is people worried about you Eric Dickinson set the NFL Russian record 2105 in 1984 that's after he came off his rookie season. He ran for 1808 Over the last four past 40 seasons No one has been able to top that mark, but something could change. Heading into week eight, Derek Henry's on pace to break the record. And although plenty of players have gotten off the hot starts, the first half of the season before fading, Lamar thinks Henry

might be able to break the record. He says Henry has a good chance to top ED's number. It's there. I feel like he has a great chance of achieving it. I think he can do it. I believe he can do it through seven weeks. Henry rush for 873 yards. He's on pace to run for 2120, which would be 15 yards more than ED's record. So Henry doesn't have a huge margin for error going forward.

Possibility of him doing it is really, really good. It's really, really good. Very good. Oh, there's nothing. The Ravens almost seem like a cheat code when you watch them play against everybody they play. Lamar is running the ball. He's throwing the ball.

De'Aricurie is running the ball. He's catching balls out the goddamn backfield. That's not even part of his repertoire. That's a big word for him, bet I can't even call it. But I mean, they look really, really good, obviously. Like it's damn near scary. So if I were to say the two best teams in the NFL offensively, I'm going Detroit and I'm going goddamn Ravens. And the Ravens are getting it done on the ground before they even put the ball in the air. And this is the past, and this is the past Happy League now. Definitely.

But my question is at what expense does Jared Hayward break that record? TD could, we could have got TD's record because there are games in which TD when he ran for 2008 Ocho TD was done at the half He'd be done rush for 150 and Mike wouldn't let it play anymore Or be rushed for 169 and at the third quarter and like he was done for the fourth quarter. So he sat out Probably equivalent if you look at what you go back and look at when he didn't play anymore He probably set out the equivalent of probably three games because Mike saw the bigger picture. Yeah. I get you that record.

We don't win the soup, but what the hell? Cause at the end of the day, we wanted to be special. You needed to repeat in order for you to be one of these teams that people talk about recurrently, you gotta do it back to back. So do I think he can do it? Yeah, I do, I do. Because there's gonna be a situation where they're gonna need him to run the air out of the ball.

And he's more than capable of doing that. And I think they have a team that takes pride and kinda like when TD, TD need like 170 something yards to get that record, don't joke. Man, you know what some of them linemen. Locking their ass off, huh? Man, I was like, man, hey.

I'm like, throw it, throw it. Bad, please. Hey, them linemen wanted it. They like, hey, they like, oh, we gonna get this, we gonna get that record, we gonna get you about it. We had a surprise thing, and knowing that TD in the record, but it's the first. Oh, absolutely. We're the reason why he was're gonna get this record. We're gonna get you a thousand. And knowing that in the record, but it's the fact.

Oh, absolutely. We're the reason why. It absolutely is. You need to get that record. So it means just as much to them as it does to him winning that record. And he gets an extra gig. Right. 17 instead of 16.

What was so amazing, OJ went for 2003 and 14. In Buffalo. The boy was toting that rock. Why? Oh, the electric company. That's what they call the office of life. The electric company. Raleigh McKenzie, Joe DeLamalier. Moving people like, they were moving them up out of there. Actually, Joe Ferguson, if I'm not mistaken, Joe Ferguson was the quarterback.

Joe Ferguson was the quarterback. We played, by rookie year, we played Indy. Joe Ferguson was the quarterback in Indy in 1990. And I think OJ brought that record in what, 73? And he was the quarterback. He was the quarterback for OJ. He was the quarterback in Indy. That's dope.

Yeah, we know what happened, but hey, that, he was a hell of a running back. Everybody beat 32. Christian McCaffrey returns to practice for the 49ers. Not only did C Mac return to the practice for the first time since week one, wide receiver, Jawan Jennings, kicker, Jake Moody, and offensive lineman, John Feliciano were all back in

action according to reports on the site. Ocho, what do you expect from the 49ers moving forward? Once CMC hits that field, the offense gets that much better. Once CMC hits that field, the offense gets that much better. Once CMC hits that field, the offense gets that much better. Arguably CMC was the best running back in the league. I know what Derek Henry is doing right now, but before CMC got, I mean, before CMC got hurt, he was considered the best running back in the league. For all the things they can do at the receiver position, lining up in the slot, all they can do, come out the back backfield catching the ball out the backfield running the ball

it allows it allows them to do so much more I think the offensive playbook with Shanahan when CMC is back there even though Jordan even though Jordan Mason played pretty well you know while CMC was out I think they can do that much more offensively when they have CMC in there. Yeah, I think, I think healthy, they still, they're still a threat in the NFC. Hell yeah. They're still, they're still very formidable. Mm. Formidable. Whatever term you want to use. Formidable, formidable.

C-Mac, his ability to run the football between the tackles, to hit outside, can catch it out of the backfield. They get Debo back. They get Juwan Jennings back. They, they, they have an opportunity to do something really good. Now we're going to talk about Lamar Jackson. Lamar Jackson completed 16 of 19 pass attempts for 280 yards, three touchdowns, and had a perfect quarterback rating, 158.3. Lamar now has four career games with a perfect quarterback rating,

with a minimum of 10 passes. He ties the NFL record held by Ben Roethlisberger, who also has four such games. Lamar now has 20 passing touchdowns this season after connecting with Zay Flowers twice, Patrick Card once, Flowers and Jackson's, Flowers with Jackson's favorite target on Sunday, five receptions, a buck 27.

In winning six of the past seven games the Ravens have beaten three teams with a winning record the Bills the commanders and the Broncos by a combined score of 106 to 43 but this is the same Baltimore team that lost the two last place team they lost to the Browns and they lost to the Ravens it comes down to the most criticized Ravens defense. When Baltimore holds teams to 25 or fewer points, the Ravens are four and oh. That's crazy, right?

That's crazy. They lost to the Ravens and the Browns. Excuse me, they lost to the Raiders and the Browns. You know what's funny? And you see, why I was a little optimistic about maybe the Cowboys being able to pull it off, you see, why I was a little optimistic about maybe the Cowboys being able to pull it off, you know, and changing their season around,

is because on any given Sunday, you never know what's gonna happen. You never know what's gonna happen. Now, as dominant as the Ravens are, if you're a betting man, if you're a gambling man, when they paid the Raiders, you putting all your money on the Ravens. When they played the Browns,

you putting all your money on the Browns when they play the Browns you putting all your money on the Browns But I don't understand why that happens Maybe playing down to the competition maybe to play calling like you said when they play the Browns They only ain't goddamn Derek Henry the ball 11 times. How many I mean, how many how many rushes Derek Henry had today? 23 For two to with two touchdowns in a buckle six See, maybe that is a formula. Maybe, maybe. 34, they almost had double the amount of rush attempts

as pass attempts. Last week it was the flip side. Lamar Jackson threw the ball 19 times. Today they ran it 34 times. That's your recipe. And because Lamar doesn't need to throw the ball 30 plus times because he's going to be so efficient because the gaps that's going to be in the defense

because you can't stop D. Henry with a light box. So he's throwing against man coverage and when it's zone coverage, they so out of place because they didn't take any false steps trying to get down when he fakes the ball into D. Henry's belly. He's probably out of place because they didn't take any false steps trying to get down when he fakes the ball into D Henry's belly. They're already out of position. Now you're out of position. But he's dealing with the ball. He's playing unbelievable. Right now the MVP is Lamar, is D Henry, is Jerry Garth. Yeah. Okay. Anybody else in that race that you would throw him in the box?

No. Okay. No. Okay. No, not for me. I mean, listen, a blind man can see it. I'm not gonna mention a blind man name, but a blind man can see there's a chance that Lamar Jackson went his third MVP. There's a chance that he went his third MVP.

And man, by God, young boy, I know young boy watch, they be watching too. I know Lamar probably not watching right now. He gonna see this, boy, you the real deal, boy. Pomp and O's finest, boy. I salute you. This is coming from a bangle. Coming from a bangle. But I know one thing, you know who they play Thursday night?

Who they play? Yeah, okay. I bet they put pussy. Yeah, I hear you know who they play. I bet they put pussy. Yeah, I hear you know where they play. I bet they put pussy in your ass. Bet that. I bet they put pussy. I bet it's gonna be your ass.

And that's respectfully to all my Raven fans, I love you, you know how I feel about you. And Baltimore. I got the Raven. You won't bet none. Whatever, make a lot of yourself. I ain't gonna do you like that. I ain't gonna take it. Do me like that. I ain't gonna do you like that. I ain't gonna take.

Do me like that. I ain't gonna pay you money. I ain't gonna take your money. We just talked about what happened when they played the Raiders. We just talked about what happened when they played the Browns. So you think they, you think the Bengals from the, after the day's game against the Raiders, you think we gonna, did you? Talk about, talk about, I remember what they did last time they were the Cincinnati.

Dropped the 41 piece on. Hold on, hold on, stay with me now. Did you see Joe Burrow today? I don't mean to jump the gun and get off top. I saw Joe Burrow today. How many yards did he throw for against the Raiders last time? We talked about last time. We've improved since then. Move them. No you haven't. Your defense haven't.

You just played a bad team. Remember how y'all went to Philly? Philly beat y'all 34 17. Okay. All right. All right. Mark my words. Now I told you he threw for 392.

He threw for 392 against the Ravens. How many touchdowns? And five TDs and LJ got it. All right. He can't be. He can't beat Lamar. He got one bigger against Lamar. And Bob TD and LJ got it All right, he can't be he can't be Lamar he got one bigger is Lamar I know I know what the record is I know it but listen

You know the bar wiping his feet. You want Lamar do to everybody in a yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah Yeah, we'll see though. We'll see Thursday We'll see though. We'll see Thursday. We'll see. What's the hold it? But make me all right. All right. Make it light on yourself then. Make it light on yourself. What you want to do? You call your price. Better man.

I'm bad and I talk and I talk about family or grab in the southern. What you want to do? I got what you want to do? I'm gonna band. Alright, band. Bandit. Matter of fact, you know what?

Since you're talking and I got 10 right here, make it 2000. Got it. Now what? What you want to do? Let's go. Hey Joe, I told you what Joe Burrow said the last time he was in front of the media. We're going to win seven of the last nine and starting in number one. But that next nine was the date and the next win is going to be Thursday.

Ain't happening. And that anybody in the chat that got something to say, you better too. Put your side bet down. Y'all talking about man. Y'all talking about man? Y'all talking about man, who they? Boy, they playing too good. They playing too good. Yeah, they playing real good.

No, listen, Lamar Jackson, the Ravens, Brother Todd Monkin, they are playing phenomenal football. Derrick Henry, phenomenal. Zay Flowers, boy, I see you, boy. I see you. But Thursday, no suck. Thursday, no suck. Hey, it's Bobby Bones.

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Also, we had another incident though, Joe video has emerged this morning showing Jason Kelsey walking their Penn State Beaver Stadium and getting approached by college students shouting his name and asking for a fist bump. Excuse me, one person can be heard heckling Kelsey using a derogatory language about his brother Travis and girlfriend Taylor Swift. Hey Kelsey, how does it feel that your brother is a, you know, the gay slur for dating Taylor Swift? The person yelled. Jason was not having any of it. As he turned stop, turned around, grabbed the person's phone and slammed it to the ground.

As Jason goes to pick the phone up, the guy shoves it. And Jason had the phone back to himself. Yeah. F now three times. Fight back Jason. Don't do that. Don't put your phone in people's faces. Give people space.

Show respect. It's okay if the guy don't want to fist bump you guys. It's okay. It's not the end of the world. He got the phone all out, all in the man's space. Man, y'all did, come on, come on. See, I used to think we're better than this, but we're not.

Cause after a certain point in time, this is who we are. This is who, this is what we've become as a society. Because what the internet has done, it's made so many people famous. And so many people want their 10, 15 minutes of fame that they're willing to cross lines in order to achieve it.

But sometimes you can make the wrong play on the wrong day. Leave people alone. I get it, Ocho, sometimes when we do our job. We have to talk about people And we have to talk about the football and like we talked about the Tom Brady situation and his wife They moved on they're going their separate ways and x y and z But I'm just trying to figure out Travis Kelsey dating Taylor Swift that impacts this gentleman's life. And why would you say, why would you call that man out of his, say his brother out of

his name? So how do you think your man was going to respond? Why? I mean, why would you do that? You went there with the person, you try to get a reaction out of Kelsey, out of Jason. I mean, why, why? He's a boy kid though, so you already know how they are. They not thinking straight.

They not thinking, they saying the first thing come to mind So, you know why? So the college kids are they gonna be a dog in some college now, you know, you was wild now, you know Yeah, but I call nobody that but oh Joe cuz like I said, yeah, I'm big on respect I ain't going to nobody face being disrespectful. And if I don't like somebody, I'm not... You understand the world we're in today. You have to understand these kids in the area. You can say it yourself. Tension, media, on viral, internet. How can I make a name for myself?

I mean, just all that stuff tied in today. You know, kids don't know how to act. And you know, this is just the era of cell phones and recording every goddamn, everything. They do. They, it is. We've gotten to the point. We put everything on the internet. We put what we're eating, what we're wearing and X, Y, and Z.

It's just, man, it's just- They've got to do everything, you know? I just, I just don't, I just don't know. Um, I just wish, uh, Jason wouldn't have had yelled those words back to it. Just, just kept it moving. Just grabbed him. He did what he did, but just keep it moving. Don't don't lower yourself to.

Yeah. Yeah. I just, I just, I just hated that some people go out, go out of their way trying to get a celebrity or an entertainer or somebody famous to get a reaction out of them. I hate that that's where we are right now. Oh, if it's somebody that I don't liar, I don't follow them. If they something come up on my feed, I scroll right past it. I don't follow them. If there's something come up on my feed, I scroll right past it. I don't listen to their music. I don't watch their films. Okay, we don't jive.

We don't get along. I don't kind of like what you stand for. Okay, ain't no harm, no foul. And I'm definitely not gonna seek that person out to try to start a confrontation or try to get out there somehow. I just, you know, you're just aboard the situation. But I just don you know, you just aboard the situation, but I just don't get mad at people now.

And I got, Ocho, I said before we started, this is who we are now. But you know, Ocho, you remember saying, are we really that bad or we really like this? At some point in time, you gotta come to the conclusion, this is who we are. This is, this is what we come as a society. You got mad with dude in the airport when you had a beer?

Yeah, with the dog, yes, yes, yes. He wanted, cause I don't know how, you know, like I said, he must've been expecting somebody else was there cause nobody knew I was there that day because normally I get a service to take me. I drove myself. So, nobody comes in. Sometimes they'll, Hey, I'm picking up Shannon Sharp or somebody or a restaurant

say, Oh, reservation Shannon Sharp, Ocho Cinco made reservation in the proper Rossia show up sometimes they have, you know, uh, uh, uh, assistance or better alert proper Rossi so they can get pictures. uh, uh, uh, assistance or that alert proper rising so they can get pictures. So I was very cautious that day, um, to make sure that I drove myself. And normally when I go to the airport or even anything in that I have, I have someone, I have someone to drive for me, but I was cautious that day that I noticed him earlier, Ocho, but I say, well, you know what? Nah, nah, nah.

And the thing was is that, like I said, the lady had come, cause she had to pick the dog up from one country. She had to fly from one country, go to another country to get the dog, bring the dog back to me. She was only going to be in the airport for like 10 hours because the next flight was going to leave.

So my thing is I'm giving this lady a lot of money. I need to make sure she gets back through security. So I was like, ma'am, do you mind if we do the transaction over there? And she's like, sure, no problem. Because at first I didn't see her because she had, she had 10 in a, in a, in a, in a carrier. So I didn't, I'm looking at it and I called Shelly, I said, Shelly, I don't see this lady. Shelly get on the phone, call the lady. She said, well, standing xy so for so long. She got on this she got on this I

Turn right. I see I got it And I'm like But he loved he wanted reaction. I mean I gave him I mean, I guess he wanted me to shove him or something I gave him what he looked for. He got his look, you know He got his moment of fame, but I mean, to call somebody brother name derogatory. What, what, what? You gotta start big to not be in college, man. Well, that's what happened. I mean, people, people get really disrespectful

because they ain't never been slapped before. You gotta make an example. So, you know, yeah, man, I just, that's why you think I stay in the house, Ocho, people like me, no, cause I just, I just, I just, I just want to be left, hey, you know, hey, Right. I get from point A to point B, I'm walking. Oh yeah.

Cause Jordan, you know, Jordan, he worked for the, whatever airline we flying on, cause he got to get everybody they buy me and ask them guys to play Hey, what happened Jordan? I don't worry about it. Yeah, okay. Wait, I'm gone He get everybody back you need your bag man, here you go, sir, you need your bag which one a Jordan bag which one? Jordan! You do not work for this airline. All they took was 10 games for the Indianapolis Coastal bitch Anthony Richardson in favor of 39 year old Joe Flacco. Even though Richardson is just 22 years of age, 10 games was enough of a sample size to draw the conclusion that the last year number four overall pick hasn't gotten it done. Jalen Hurst is a prime example of giving a young quarterback an opportunity to develop. Hurt said his development is why teams

should be patient with young quarterback. I think things do take time. Things take time and everybody has a different approach to going in. I wasn't supposed to be the guy I am today. Nobody expected that, but I took advantage of my opportunities and that's what I encourage everyone to do regardless.

I don't like the move. I don't care what nobody say. I don't like the move. It's your number four pick, right? It's your number four pick. Now, what I think, what I'm saying is happening, I don't like the fact that they're benching him. For one, he didn't play a lot of college football.

He didn't play a lot of college football. He didn't get a lot of snaps. The amount of snaps that needed to be able to come in and transition into the NFL and be prepared. You know, just being big, strong, fast, and having an arm is not gonna get enough. It's not gonna get enough. So the only way to improve in the NFL is with reps.

With reps, with reps, with reps. He's the future of the franchise. He's the number four quarterback. So the only reason I think they put Flacco in is to save the season. Do we have a chance to make a run? So we're going to do is we form for I think what they are for for right. Uh, what's the take? What's the approach? What's the coach? No, I don't know if they're four and four.

You think so? I don't know if they run four games or Joe. They might have not that. They're four and forty five hundred. See, I know. I knew've. No, I thought that. They're four and 4500. See, I knew it. So what they're doing with coach, Mr. Stiken is doing, he's making a change because he feels the team had the chance and the opportunity to make a run. At some point, Anthony Richardson will be the future of the Colts, but right

now we're going to put Flacco in because he gives us, they think they feel, which which is true statistically, Flacco gives them he gives us, they think they feel, which is true statistically, Flacco gives them the best chance to win right now and compete. And this is a compete division because the Houston, the Texans aren't what they were. Jacksonville is very here to miss. We know what the Titans are. So and look, I know people are saying that, you know, he tapped out and that's one of the reasons, but you got to look at his record.

Ocho, this guy has a worse completion percentage than Tim Tebow. Tim Tebow completed 46% of his passes. He's completing 46-44%. That's 4% lower than Jamarcus Russell. Did we think Jamarcus Russell and Tim Tebow were good quarterbacks? No, we didn't. And his completion percentage is worse than theirs. He needs to, he needs time to watch. They put him in too quick when he wasn't ready.

And what happens is, Ocho, is that when you draft someone that high and you draft him at that position, you're not waiting because after the end of the third year, Oh, I'm going to have to make a decision. I'm about to have to get these guys 300, 400, $500 million. I need to see. Right. And in the process of that, because like you said, he didn't play a whole lot of football and he didn't play a whole lot of football in a pro style offense. Right.

A lot of his stuff, he was running the football. Well, you know, he said the NFL was easy. I can't tell. If the NFL is easy and you completing 44% of your passes, what the hell you think would happen if the NFL was hard, don't you? Can I tell you one more thing, uncle? I'm just saying, chat, y'all stay with me real quick, real quick. Like listen to me when it comes to the game of football.

When you're drafted high, you have expectations. You have friends. You have people telling you this, you that. And you get to the NFL, you get drafted that high. Then you plan, you have a certain high, a certain, certain or and feeling about yourself where you feel good. You know what it feels like to get benched, uncle? Do you understand what it feels like to get benched though Ang? Do you understand what it feels like to get benched, though?

As a quarterback, forget some of the other positions, because some of the other positions, you have an opportunity to bounce back, you know, and you have an opportunity to make those plays again. But as a quarterback, I think it does something, especially when you're young, it does something to your psyche. I'm assuming it has to. It has to do something to your psyche. So now you're telling me I'm playing bad

I'm playing so bad. You're going to sit me down and bench me for Joe Flacco So if I do get the opportunity to play again, what's the first fucking thing? I'm gonna do I'm gonna be goddamn indecisive I'm gonna hopefully you learn. Hey, I'm gonna be hesitant. I'm not gonna make the big plays. I was making earlier. I Just I don't. You've been in the last three games. It's weird to me. Complete like nine and 10 passes. Hopefully, hopefully he gets an opportunity

to sit and watch and then he can come. He says, well, Joe, what if Joe asked him, he can ask Joe, Joe, what did you see? Why did you go there? Right. Because that's the biggest thing. Oh Joe, you can't throw 30 passes and complete eight of them in the NFL. You're not going to win like that. Yeah.

And he ain't, you know what? And then we can't, we can't blame the receivers because they got, they got squad, man. Yeah. Hey, they got some boys now. Hey, it's Bobby Bones. Join me and former NFL quarterback, Matt Castle every Wednesday for our new podcast, Lots to Say with Bobby Bones and Matt Castle.

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