Club Shay Shay - Nightcap - Hour 1: Derrick Henry dominates, Sanders & Hunter NFL future, Chiefs costly injuries

Episode Date: September 30, 2024

Shannon Sharpe, Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson and Deion “Coach Prime” Sanders react to Derrick Henry’s 2 TD vintage performance for the Baltimore Ravens on Sunday Night football against Josh Allen and the Buffalo Bills. Later, Unc, Ocho and Coach Prime breakdown expectations for Colorado Buffaloes QB Shedeur Sanders and Travis Hunter’s future in the NFL, Kansas City Chiefs key injuries and much more!03:55 - Coach Prime Joins the show09:00 - Derrick Henry big night for Ravens on SNF17:00 - Colorado routs UCF29:55 - NFL future for Shedeur Sanders and Travis Hunter41:32 - Chiefs beat Chargers, injury concerns50:42 - Tua situation in Miami, Shedeur Sanders good fit57:10 - Eagles beat Bucs, Baker vs Brady comments(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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He been bad. I wish he'd leave me alone, but he's not. Can I order what y'all been talking about over here? Can I order some of that? There's a lot of need, Brian, for what I heard. I ain't get my turn. Everybody's got their turn. I ain't get my turn. Everybody's got their turn. I ain't get my turn. I was sincerely worried and caring, concerned and all that, man. I just wanted to know you all

right. Cause it sounded like, it just sounded like you put a hamstring. What's up? Like, hey, he got bad cardio too, huh? Huh? Just a carburetor. What you got? Yeah, something wrong with it? Something wrong with it? I barely made it home, Ocho. I barely made it home when my phone rang. How you hear about it this quick? What, you supposed to be at practice? I don't ask for nothing.

I'm coaching man on my own bed and my phone blowing up. Call your boy. I said, what happened? Lord Jesus. I just went to Brandon's home. I just chucked out turn. Jesus. I want my turn. Everybody else got their turn. You're going to be doing all tonight. I'm getting my turn. Man. All right.

We're going to get to the game. Once we get to the game, we can move on. Okay. Okay. My turn. Behind Derrick Henry and Lamar Jackson. Lamar Jackson was 13 of 18, 156, two touchdowns, no interceptions. Derrick Henry ran the ball, 24 carries, a buck 99. The Ravens 34 runs. That's another carry. Two touchdowns after that 275 performance last week against the Dallas Cowboys as they moved their record. What are they two and two now? The Ravers are not two and two. The Buffalo Bills fall to three and one. This was the first play from scrimmage. Derek Henry takes off goes down the field. Guys you remember Ocho You remember a couple of weeks ago? I said they need to play Derek Henry now. Let him dot the I. He's not an off-step back

He's not a zone read back. He's not an offset back. He's not a zone read back. He's a long strider, four yards is not enough. Put it in eight, toss it to him or hand it to him. Go ahead, Ty, what you want to say? I remember a couple of weeks ago. All right, that's not that one. That's not that one.

That's not that one, I'm sorry. I got my own. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I had to because I know it was me or you. Oh my lord. I might well put a a suit on. God you know you to kill me. You don't have to block me. Okay. You know you don't have to block my nose. You already know. Hey, you remember how much I used to call you at Jackson.

I called you three, four times a week. So you'd have to block my number. At least, at least. Okay, I'm done. There he is with 209 total yards, a buck 99 on the ground. He caught a touchdown pass. The Ravens look very, very good tonight.

And all three phases of the game, offense, defense, special teams, the special team didn't really, the kicking game really didn't come into play because when they got the ball down there, they got the ball into the end zone. The Baltimore Ravens are starting to look like the Baltimore Ravens.

We expected them to look like Lamar Jackson again. Outstanding performance for, what was he? 13 of 18, 156, two touchdowns, no turnovers, Derek Henry, 24 for one 99. I wanted him to get that man. He wanted that thing bad. He wanted that to be a stupid. If somebody

got to get you the word like I have a staff, man, they tell like last week, just yesterday they came and told me, hey, Travis need 10 more yards to go for another 100 for his like sixth consecutive game. So we was getting ready to try to get him a quick slam or something to get him his 10 more yards because we're aware of that stuff. But the game, it played out differently and I didn't want to be insulting to throw him a ball when we're up by margin. So the staff tells you that they should have gotten that one more yard, man. Yeah. Well, he needed, he needed six. No, he needed four

because he had one 96. He came in, he got to, he got upset because on the last, the last possession, they tossed it to him and he wanted a straight handoff. He wanted to hand it to him. Let the, he didn't want to toss cause he know the defense is going to be flowing, because if you know you need that many yards, guess who else know you need that many yards? The defense. They know. But all these big plays came from the toss switch though. That's probably why they did that.

All these big runs came from the toss switch. But I didn't like it because what they did is they had the fullback, they had the fullback in the offset. So I liked him straight up in the eye. But when you watch this game, Ocho, what did you like about what you saw from the Ravens? Listen, they look completely different than what they look.

The previous what? We, we won week one and two being able to run the ball. I kind of feel sorry for the receivers. I feel sorry for Zay a little bit. I feel sorry for Aguilar, Mark Andrews and unlikely because they're not getting the touches I think they should because the running game is so efficient, especially tonight. The play actually worked a little bit better because the running game was so efficient. Derek Henry doing what Derek Henry does.

We saw the Derek Henry of old that we saw when he was with Tennessee, somewhat in his prime. Obviously being able to hit his head off the goalpost. And I'm not sure how old Derek Henry is. But what he went with Tennessee, somewhat in his prime, obviously being able to hit his head off the goalpost. And I'm not sure how old Derek Karen is, but what he went 97, 95? And nobody can catch him. Nobody can catch him. They didn't, they, uh uh, couldn't catch him.

He had great wins. He had great wins. There you go, there you go, I see. What, what, what you mean? I didn't tell you, he had a great win. Chad, what was I saying, don't you? Hey, no, you gotta stop, bro. What you mean? What you saying? That is a great win. Chad, what was I saying? Don't you? Hey, no, you gotta stop, dog.

I'm a dead stuff, sir. He got good cardio, huh? He got good cardio. Yeah, good cardio. But, I mean, listen, when you can run the ball like that, when you can be efficient like they were tonight, it makes it so much easier and you're gonna win a lot of games. Now, they're gonna come teams, it's gonna come a time where teams are gonna stack their goddamn box.

They're gonna have that safety down in there. You're not gonna be able to do that. Now, will you be able to win with your arm and will the receivers be able to get open so you can still win games later on down the stretch when you play different teams where the personnel is a little bit more stout as opposed to Buffalo was tonight?

What'd you think Brian? I like it. I like see when you when you talk like that that's that's kind of assuming that Lamar can't make the throws but he can. Oh he can make them man. We can't say that yeah we yeah he can make the throws all the throws he's, he's more definitive between the hash marks, but he could make all the throws. That's a myth. But they, they're going to have to stretch the field because even when you play eight men in the box, like they did tonight, they played eight in the box. And you still can't stop the big fella.

When that line is moving and they got this misdirection and all these jets and all this stuff going, man, it's hard to stop the big fella coming down. He like, ain't nobody trying to line up to hit that okay ain't nobody ain't nobody doing that they're making business decision they're making business decisions if you don't catch him behind the line of scrimmage and you allow him to get north and south and he ain't going east and west man i don't want no problem it's a problem i don't know how tennessee let the big fella go man and i don't know how dallas didn't move on the big fella man because he's still Jerry said you couldn't afford him

That's the doubt leader Jericho for the battle Jerry 40 day long Jerry did Jerry thought Jerry said well Tennessee's getting rid of up getting you getting rid of him Why do we want it they didn't you the Tennessee didn't have no threat of a quarterback. So they know they coming into the game. We know we'll never can't beat us. We know Malik will, you know what, you know what? Sure. I'm going to tell you what I think is because he's high profile.

I don't think it's because of the money. No, no, no, no, no. I think, I just think, I think, I think Jerry, Derek Henry is high profile. What is that? And that's a good thing. Ain't it? Yeah. So, but when you? Yeah, to us it is. But when you getting ready to pay DAC, yeah.

And see that wasn't a good thing at the time because he's another high profile guy that you gotta feed. You already got to receive that DAC like they starving. So it's hard. Chad, you know y'all ain't never satisfied. Now you need to stop. And in that, but in the question of prime, if he goes to, if he goes to Dallas, are you going to use him so you can get the benefit out of him that

you would need Baltimore is going to use it. I know, I know, uh, uh, Harbaugh, John Harbaugh said, well, we didn't bring him here to run 30 times, but what about 24 to 25? Did you bring him there to do that? Because he can give you these. I'm not saying he give you one 99, but he can give you well over a hundred if you give him 20 to 25 carriers. Well, week one they did. That's why the criticism came. Week one they did not use them. Then they went on to Dallas and they said, hey man, we ain't going to mess this up. Hey man, feed the big fella. And he hunted. He ate that weak man.

He still has it. He still got passion for the game. I love the big fella and he hunted. He ate, he ate dead week, man. He still has it. He still got passion for the game. I love the big fella in every aspect. Tonight's loss, NAFTA NFL record 43 game streak in which the Bills had not suffered a loss by more than six points in the regular season. So they had gone almost three seasons without losing a game by more than six points in the regular season and the Baltimore Ravens beat them by 25. Through four games, Derek Henry has 480 yards rushing, five touchdowns, and another receiving score.

With he and Lamar dominating a run-heavy offense, the Ravens are gonna be tough because here's the thing. When you can run the ball like they can run at times, guess what happens? When you stick that ball in Henry's belly and he rolls over and he doesn't have it Lanes like like 95 and a nothing only the throwing lanes get so wide Because everybody is so afraid those linebackers gonna be because I don't want him to get ahead of steam if he get ahead of thing if I hit him at seven, he's gonna fall in front if

He gets the 10 he's going to 1520. When the running back bigger than the linebacker is a problem. Because DBs know that. We know that. Going into the meeting and the presentation and they, you know, they're giving the scouting report and the game plan and you sit up there, you look at it, son. It's like, hey man, six, three, two, five. Hey man, come on. Then you just immediately, I used to go visit the linebacker. Look at me, what y'all wanna do this week? Y'all want me to wear a neck roll, or y'all want me to cover?

What y'all wanna do? Because look at my shoulder. My shoulder makes a suit. That ain't made to be here in January. Hey, I gotta let him pass the jump on his back, Ty. I can't, hey, ain't no way. I'm talking about you, hey, get him in his five, and do what, get a concussion?

I has. Yeah, that's what the guy did tonight. You see where he at. He didn't come back in the game. Okay, time. Let's talk about Colorado. Colorado yesterday beat UCF 48-21. The Buffaloes, your team with 14 point underdogs,

improved a four and one, two and oh in the big 12. And Travis Hunter caught a touchdown. He intercepted a pass in the same game for the second time in three weeks. And this is the fourth time in his three year college career that he's done that. He struck the Heisman pole after he picked off KJ Jefferson with a diving interception in the third quarter.

Time, I said yesterday, and I text you this, that I thought this was your most complete ball game in your tenure. You look at the way you guys ran it, You look at the way you guys stopped the run when you needed to stop it. After y'all done built up that big lead, they started to get some cheap stuff. You look at the way you protected the quarterback.

You look at the way you hunted the quarterback. Your special teams got two good field goals from your kicker. This was a complete game. When you was looking at the week of practice, you go into the week of practice, you're going into this game. What made you feel so comfortable?

Because I heard you after the game to say, how much we were supposed to beat them by? 10. What made you feel so confident that you guys were ready to play? Adversity. You got to understand, we respond to adversity. We got a bunch of former pros that are coaching,

doing a great job of maturing these young men, but it was a storm coming to Florida. You know, there's a storm coming. So we had to leave on a Wednesday to get to Florida to beat the storm. You know what that does? That brings us together. Close. We in a hotel for a few days, none but team. We the walkthroughs, the practices that we went out and practice, thank God UCF allowed us there indoor facility.

We utilize that. Our guys worked there, but I've studied a ton of film, met with the coaches, watching film walkthroughs. It was just straight football and straight focus. And that was the difference. Us, including ourselves and get away from friends, family, and loved ones. And just being locked in there. That was the difference.

When you guys played, guys played North Dakota State, I said after the game, I said, I'm disappointed because, and I said, you never accept anything in a win, you wasn't in a loss. Coach Saban said yesterday, winning when playing poorly is a kiss of death. You then said after the game, I didn't know that you had said this at the time,

you said, guys, we can't be happy with just winning. We've got to dominate. We've got to take the field expecting to dominate. It's too many people happy that we just won the game. Can you explain to those that's at home listening and watching what you mean by not being just happy winning, but expecting to dominate? As a coach, you know what you have.

You know what positions you're a little weary of, you know, what positions you're very strong in, you know, who are the dominant players on your team. And when you go out and you perform and you may lose the defensive battle as well as special teams, but you win offense and you score more points, you can't be happy. You're excited that you won. You're, you're happy that you won, but you're not satisfied with the true victory because you know, it could have went the other way with a bounce of this ball, a bad pass or former whatever.

But when you excel on all three levels, and that's what we did yesterday offensively defensive, well, especially teams, we excelled at all three levels for our first time in my tenure, for the first time in a long time, even dating back to Jackson, that we were truly dominant at all three levels, man. And I'm proud of the young men, I really am, because it was a valiant effort to do so.

You know what, I got a question. I'm glad you just said that. One of the things you just said as a coach, understanding your strengths and understanding your weaknesses, you know, and wanting everybody to come together, but how do you navigate that as a coach when understanding your strengths and understanding your weaknesses, and wanting everybody to come together. But how do you navigate that as a coach when you're playing against an opponent? I'm not gonna talk about UCF in this instance,

but when you go into games and understanding your strengths and your weaknesses of your players, how do you hide and navigate the weak parts of what you may have going on and hide them in game so you can still be efficient in all three features. You focus. I mean, we had been great versus the run. UCF was a running team. You know, we're going to make this game plan heavy defensively versus the run. What does that mean? We got to get on these DBS all week long because they're going to be one on one quite a bit man to man. And guess what?

It's going to be at least two to three balls that you're going to have to break up. You're going to have to be there. Travis. I need you to be Travis. You know, I need you to be you. I need you to do that. I just need you to make a play.

You, I don't need you to win, but I need you to break even. All right. I don't need you to win. I need you to break even you to right here. I need you to be dominant. You really be truthful and honest about what you have and their abilities and you give them an attainable goal that they can secure. And that's what they did. They went out there and did that. Hey there, it's Michael Lewis, author of Going Infinite, Moneyball, The Blind Side, and Liar's

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or wherever you get your podcasts. I look at both of your offense and defensive line because you know that's the meat and potatoes of any team. Yeah, you can have all the fancy bells and whistles, but you need those pickup trucks and dump trucks and that's what you did yesterday your offensive line They opened up the holes gave running lanes and they did a great job of protecting your door I think he's only sacked twice defensive line. They did a great job of stopping the run. They got after the quarterback I think you guys sacked like six or seven times

Going into that game and you know, I know Saf is on your staff and he's preaching defense. He wants those guys to hunt guys. We got to hunt. I know he's telling them they got to hunt. Did you feel comfortable? Did you know like, damn, UCF, they want to run the football. We've kind of been little little lacks that stop in the run. But I feel comfortable going into the game today that we can. Yeah, we did. We did.

Coach Robinson is doing a great job as well as Pat Sherman, our, both my coordinators, they're doing a wonderful job of game planning and getting us prepared and I just add what I certainly, they cannot beat us at this. We cannot surrender that we cannot do this. Those are my attitude that I make sure that we can't do freshly navigating through the game and understanding what's at hand during the game and situational football. Like a situation like going down before the half, you know, we're getting ready to take a shot.

It's no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Let's get it. My Tim. Oh, y'all got this Tim. Oh, y'all got this. Let's dial up some Tim. Oh, y'all. Give me that.

Let's get out of balance. We got eight seconds. We need to do this within five for say we need three seconds on the clock. We good. We got a timeout left. I'm going to use that. Boom. Man, Pat called a perfect play. We get out of bounds, hit the back on the shallow, go and cross the field. He gets out of bounds, Moller hits it. Now we go hit him in momentum because they're about to get the ball

to start the second half because we had the ball open it up. So there's a lot of situational things that go in that that coincide with what you're trying to do and what you're trying to accomplish as well. But the coordinators came up with wonderful game plans and we ran the ball effectively. Anytime you just run the ball effectively and take some heat off too back there it's gonna be a problem because now it gets like seven on seven and when you give him that opportunity Chad you've seen it when you give him that opportunity to sit back there and settle his feet it's gonna be a problem but he makes him throw yesterday time on the move i watched him throw that ball to uh to trav he's rolling to his left and he has to throw it over he has a guy in between him and trav so he has to put enough he has to put enough heat on it but he

has to put enough touch to get it up and down the guy in front of him and he has the safety closing in on him when you watch him i, he grew up in your house. You know what you got, but at any point in time, do you get impressed by seeing what he's doing? No, because my expectations are out of the room. I get mad, you know, I get mad at times. Hey, what's wrong with you, man? You know, like that happens And we have these intense conversations, but sometimes I have to dial back because I'm

looking at it from this point of view. And I'm hearing the call goes in. I don't know if this happens or that happens. And we don't know, but he knows, right? You know, he could, he could redial it and say, this is what was supposed to happen. But this didn't happen. This is why this happened. Like he these quarterbacks, you can't everything and he could tell you everything that he saw because that's the first thing I asked. What did you see? What did you see? And he and Pat are wonderful together.

I mean, you got to hear the chemistry going in. See now is the luxury because you got a quarterback that can see the field. And then the coach gets to talk to him until 15 seconds is left on the play clock. So that's almost like stealing man, because now he's telling them, okay, they may come weak side, oh, look at the front side and this is just, and Shadour is already there. He's already right there.

And sometimes, you know, he'll check off something, we'll lay, oh my God, he should have stuck with the play. Oh, oh, good job, good job. So it's like, it's almost like that, yeah. Sometimes, because he can see the game. He can see the game tremendously well. Yeah. Speaking of speaking of seeing the game, I'm going to argue last night. We were talking, obviously watching, watching Travis Hunter

and what he's doing and how special he is. I'm talking about special. There there haven't been many. There haven't been very many two way collegiate players that can do what he's doing at such an early age and be efficient on both sides of the ball like he did at that level. And I talked with Unc yesterday. I'm sitting here arguing with him. I'm telling you Unc, I say, Unc, I believe Travis is a better receiver as opposed to DB. Now we have you here. So I just want you to... I ain't telling you nothing. I ain't telling you nothing. I'm treating you like So, I just want

them feed and get down there and get that. I mean, and I know him like a book. Right before that play, if somebody dial it back before the play he made, I say, look, man, focus, focus, focus, because they're getting ready to come at you. I need you to focus and stay low and do what you do. That's what I said to him on the sideline because I know him and I know the flow of the game.

And I know when a coordinator know the flow of the game. And I know when a coordinator think he's tired of their, they may try to take a shot and try to catch him sleeping or slipping. And he ain't, he ain't getting ready to do that. That's just who he is. But I know the

answer to that. Well, sure. This is my problem. Every week we got a ton of scouts coming to practice and they asked me that question. What do I think he is? I said, I'll tell you what, if you put them on defense and don't let them play

offense in the pros, you're going to look crazy because you're not moving the ball down the field and your best receiver's over there on the defense side of the ball. And then the fans do. Right, the fans going to start booing, and they're going to start saying, put Travis here. Now, if you put it vice versa, okay, now he's on offense, and he's lighting it up, then your cornerback is getting killed,

but you got him over there sitting on the bench, and your best corner is sitting over there waiting got him over there sitting on the bench and your best corner is sitting over there waiting for the office to get a turn and you get murdered out there. You're gonna look like a fool as a head coach. So, you got to

allow him to be who he is. I'm thankful that god bless me with him and god gave me a career where I could see the game from both sides and I could understand that. No, this is not it. Not only this is who this kid is. Yeah. got to let him be him. Imagine if I was selfish and just was traditional and just played him on one side of the ball. We wouldn't see half of the plays that we've been blessed to see as a

collegiate football player. I would have robbed him of that greatness that he has, that he's displayed for us. Thank God that he came, he chose us. And he gave us the tremendous gift. You have a very unique perspective because when you went to Dallas, I don't know who the number two got hurt. You were the full-time corner, but they had a package of plays for you.

And they would run you on the reverse, they would throw the smoke screen to you, they put you down the field, you catch the post run you on the reverse. They would throw the smoke screen to you. They put you down the field. You catch the post, you catch the over. So you have a very unique perspective of what is like. It was a period of time that I was, I was playing a hundred nine hundred twenty place game. It was a period of games that I was playing that.

So I understand the repetitions, but you know, guys like, cause like Chad, you ain't get tired. Oh no, I ain't get tired. That's the last thing we got playing this game. You don't get tired playing a childish game called football. Did we ever get tired in the hood when we grew up growing up playing? Never. Was there any time outs when we grew up playing streetball? Never. We used to be fucking at the bus stop. Hold on the only time we stop is when you got to pause for a car to go by. Thank you. And we was. How you stop? I used I organized, I was always structured. I organized my bus stop to go play against other bus stuff that we go

into school dead. But we won. But we won. Oh, so bad. So you don't get tired doing what you gifted and blessed to do, man. The kid don't turn give him Uh, he has sundays off mondays and tuesdays off so he starts working on wednesdays So he could get his time. He's he's and if anybody got a problem with it. I say do what he does I give you the days i'm gonna ask you about that. How you say you give him sunday monday and tuesday off Give his body a chance to recover our normal off days are our mondays. We're normally off on mondays We we do a 70 percent if you played 60% of the snaps during the game on Saturday, you get Sundays off. That's my chance. That's my opportunity to get these other guys, reps to get them total focused from the staff to get them ready

to play just in case somebody is sustained an injury. But no, he gets a couple of days off then the third on that Tuesday, then he's ready to go in. How tall is Travis? Cause standing next to him, he's taller than people think. People think he's- Travis is taller than me.

Travis is about six two. And he long. He ain't- Jump out the gym. Jump out the gym. Like if you seen him play basketball, jump out the gym. Like all great corners, real lean, down low, got long limbs and jump out the gym. I ain't never seen a great corner that can't jump out the gym. Like all great corners, a lot real lean, down low,

got long limbs and jump out the gym. I ain't never seen a great corner that can't jump out the gym. I ain't never seen, never seen in my life. I don't know, Timer, you had ups like that though. Who? I dunked a medicine ball. What?

What? I didn't start it either. Think about that. Think about how you gotta get up there. Oh, nobody wait, but it's a mess. Let me ask you this time. A lot of people are asking, obviously you want your son to go to a great situation.

That's first and foremost. Yeah, you want him to go high. You think, you think. You want to go to a great, knowing how you think, yes. High, you want him to go high, but sometimes going high means going to a bad situation. What about, because everybody's like, well, will Coach Prine pull an Eli?

Have you thought that far? You just, hey, son, just do what you're supposed to do. Everything's gonna take care of itself, and we're gonna, after the season, we'll sit down and discuss what the next step is. Eli, a LeBron ball, a LeBron, I'm gonna put whatever, a Caesar,

Caesar, the boxes, I'm putting it all up. Yeah, all up. No, honestly, we've talked about it extensively. I've talked to most of the teams because they had to practice every day, but I want what's best for him, but I want him to be happy as well. So, you know, you really don't get to dictate where you or your son gets to go because there's a draft process, but you know us, you know how we are.

We know who ain't trying to win in NFL. So, you know, you know that, you know, who's consistently, you know, in the basement, year after year after year, you don't want that situation for your kids or your family members, nobody, no, no, none of them. So we know what time it is, but you got to understand your door is is is he suited for adversity. All our life we've been on adversity all our life. We've been hated and mistreated and talked about it, lied on and and just naysay all I like. He ain't never had the red carpet rolled out to him. I'm not that kind of

father. You know, I would know he had no silver spoon. He had a wooden spoon. The kind we used to put on the wall. Yeah. That's nice. Yeah. Yeah. He said in the interview last week, he said, my dad ain't give me no trust for him. Yeah, we we don't work like that. He had to earn everything he has. So he suited to go to a team that's been up on adversity because that's what he's done all his life. He's been in adverse situations. I heard Mel Kuiper say that cover two, they need to do away with the cover two because this is why quarterbacks are struggling. This is why teams are struggling so early in the season.

Man, what's your take on that time? That jacket, they don't have to be. Okay. Why don't you just go to two-beater? Comment. Say you got to get ready to go to you. You can get them out there too. You can run them out there. Run them out of it. You can run them out there too. First of all, check it. They had a couple of two on you and you planned tight end. You're going to tell that.

Every time I can go keep up with you on that seam. If he running, what's your, we're going to put it back shoulder, then what you going to do? And matter of fact, and if they, if they in that two hell, all you got to do, if you got some dogs or they're condensing them goddamn Smiths, we corner out they ass to death or we go two yards outside the number and we got them run that dig, dig they ass to death. Let me tell you cover two. Cover two, first of all me tell you cover two. Cover two, first of all, Chad loved cover two. You know why? Because he towed a corner up and now he one on one

with a safety that's not used to playing in space. So that was a murder. Honestly, I've always told coordinators and the pros, guys, if you're gonna play cover two, just put the safeties up front, put the corners in the back. Because you want the corner, which are now the safeties to come up and make the tackles. Because you want the, you want the call, which should not have safety to come up and make the tackles.

Then you want those guys to defend the pass. But now you dealing with a guy back there on the hash that ain't used to space. And Chad can't wait to get off that gym and see that joke and face him up, man, please. It's all right. Yeah, I cover to be nice to tell TD, TD run him out of cover too.

That's your job. Run him out of cover too, make him drop. You not finna stop us with this light box. You gonna have to drop that eight. Play action, don't kill it too though. Play action, don't kill it too because when you got a running game, he has to, you know, he has to take that thing.

He has to stay still. So he won't let you get up, he gonna let you get up the scene. He ain't got no choice. Time let's look at your Colorado Buffalo schedule. You off this week. You got K stayed at home. Man, I wanna talk about Colorado. I wanna talk let you get up to see me. I ain't got no choice. Mm-hmm. Time, let's look at your Colorado Buffalo schedule. You off this week. You got K stayed at home. Man, I wanna talk about Colorado.

I wanna talk about you. What do you wanna do? What you? What you? Hey, hey, Brian, hey, Brian, Brian, ask, ask, ask him who Michelle is. I ain't finna do that. Now, I ain't, I ain't, I don't,

I don't bring nobody else into this. I just wanna bring my boy into this. You said you wanted to, you said you wanted your brother? Yeah, I, I, I don't, I don't bring nobody else into this. I just want to bring my boy into this. You said you wanted your- Yeah, I just, just the, just the, the sound effects. That's what I'm on. The sound effects. I'm just-

That was a fan. That was a fan going down. My boy Ty Moe, he take off his shirt, he look like Superman, black Superman, black, black, black hero, black soldier boy, everything. He look like all that. I'm just trying to wonder that, like Chad say, have you not been doing cardio? Cause I know you.

Yeah, I feel cardio bad. Time, I thought we... We had this conversation. We had this conversation. Okay, just answer that. Did you hit Gilly? Did you hit Gilly? I did not.

That's good. Okay, Gilly's was a good one. Gilly had one of the best reenactments of himself. Yeah. Okay, we stopped because I could see you. No, you ain't gonna stop. You ain't gonna stop. You gonna stop for like 10 minutes. You know if you get sensitive, you know if you get sensitive, you gon' get funny. You know it's gonna get funnier. If you get sensitive, I'm just letting you know if I see your face tighten up a little bit. I'm gonna keep going. I can't, I can't get serious with you. We don't get funny. You know it's gonna get funnier. If you can sit down, I'm just letting you know if I see your face tight enough, I'm gonna keep going. I can't get serious with you.

We don't get serious. If it was me, oh my goodness. It'd have been over. Oh my God, Jesus. You already know. It'd have been over for you. You oughta been sitting in the bar the whole time waiting for me to get to work.

I definitely would have done a couple shows from Boulder. Definitely. And you would have walked up and said, man, let's go and get this over with because you know what it's gonna be. Let's go and get this over with. Let's go into your office. Me and you ain't nobody gonna be there. Let's go and get it over with.

That's my bad. We had our talk, we got it over with and I'm proud of you. You're drinking a lot of water and you got thirsty off of it quick now. You got real thirsty real quick. I'm drinking my tea real quick. You gotta you gotta real thirsty. Real quick. You know, I'm drinking to keep keep keep a voice right. Did you keep your copy?

I thought you were in there for a minute. Man, y'all see what I go through, man. This is why I don't call him. I can't call this man, cause this is what happens. Chad, what you say when he first called you? Or did you call him? What you say? What did he say? I texted right away, I called,

but everything good, I just wanted to make sure. But I waited a little bit, cause I know he was probably getting a lot of calls. So I was kind of nervous. So based on what happened, I'm like, well damn, are we still gonna be able to do nightcap? So I waited by the hour or two, I checked and I'm like, hey, everything good? Yeah, I'm like, well, damn, are we still gonna be able to do nightcap? So I waited about an hour or two. I checked and I'm like, hey, everything good?

Yeah, I'm good. I just took one of them diamonds a little too early. Hey, once once once once he made somewhat like a joke about it, I knew everything. I'm proud of him. I'm proud of him because he owned it. I'm proud of him because he owned it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, he could have done a live, played it off, and then all the fools talking about you staging,

like, come on, dawg, ain't nobody there to do that. Like, what's wrong with y'all? Ain't nobody there to stage that. I mean, he can't stage it. Maybe he don't even know how to work the goddamn phone. The first time on IG Live, that's what I'm gonna do. Yeah, but listen, if you're gonna stage it, at least you're gonna have a highlight show. That wasn't a highlight show at all. That was a low light. Like if you're gonna stage it, it's gonna be some of my best part.

What's my name? Too sweet. Who the band is? Show no. If I'm gonna stage it, it's gonna be sound effect. I'm gonna to be singing. You know, if I'm going to stage it, it's going to be sound effect. I'm going to have roars. I'm going to have everything jumping off. Everything. Smoke. I'm coming out to smoke like I did in the lab. If I'm going to stage it, it's going to be oh wait. I'm going to come out.

I'm coming out there like sugar, dancing. If I'm on stage, I was mad about that. I was my boy stage that and that carburetor blew up. All right, that's it. That's it. I got mad. I'm done with it now. I'm done with it now.

Let's go. Let's go. Hold on. Go ahead. Y'all keep going. I'm afraid the fan is not hot. You better go let somebody in. What you say? You say you gotta turn the fan on this album.

Oh, I thought he'd been letting somebody in. Y'all off this week, huh? Yeah, we off this week. I'm gonna come up. Y'all, who y'all got? Y'all got K-State next week? Yes, Lord. I'm gonna come up there.

I'm gonna come up there. You ain't coming up there. Listen. Only time you come is I'm in Miami. And that ain't no coming up there. You already home. This is the problem. You gotta understand.

I got things to do. I got things to do. I got things to do. I got things to do. I'm gonna come up there. You ain't coming nowhere. Only time you come is I'm in Miami. And there ain't no coming nowhere. You already home. This is the problem. You gotta understand. I got 37 11 jobs. I got 37 11 jobs. You should be proud of me now. I done came a long way. I done came a long way.

You kept them. Yes you did. I'm proud of you. Cause you have stability now you're grounded. I ain't got no choice but to be grounded. Okay guys, the Chief beat stability now you're grounded. I like that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah Yeah, I got no choice but be grounded. Okay guys chief beat the charge of 1710 Rashid Rice was carted off the field after colliding with Patrick Mahomes after interception. They fear an ACL tear now They probably would be out be without Rashid Rice Hollywood Brown is out possibly for the season Isaiah Pacheco went down He'd be back in two weeks no is out possibly for the season. Isaiah Pacheco went down. What happened to Hollywood? Now his shoulder.

He'll be back in two weeks. No. They put him on IR. They say they looking at the season. I just said two weeks with four fingers. It can't count. Oh, my bad. Don't worry about it.

I told you. He said two weeks. Did he make it two weeks? Yeah, they don't. Don't worry about it. don't worry about it. Don't worry about it. Hold on, y'all gotta be drinking on the show. Go ahead.

Well, what he was talking about, Ty, that they was going to play a Sunday game, a Thursday game, and that's what he was trying to get. He was going to miss four games in two weeks. That's what he was trying to get at. You have to understand what you're doing. I tell you what, that joker know how to run a final. He know how to run a fight.

That's his route. That's his route. That's his route. But Ty, when we were discussing, everybody was talking about a three tee. And I say the reason why it's so hard, they say, well, who you think the biggest competitor that's standing in their way?

I say the Chiefs, I say injuries. Because you played longer every year. Your off season is shorter every year. And think about it, they're down Rashid Rice, who's their best receiver, Hollywood Brown, who they brought in to help stretch the field. They drafted worthy, Isaiah Pacheco, the running back, he's gone now.

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for somewhere. He got to get somebody. What's the budget receipts out there though? It's a bunch of receipts. You like D-Hop? You like a trade for D-Hop? Ooh! D-Hop right there? Yeah, I mean, he could be available. What is he still doing out there? Well, he in Tennessee, he in Tennessee, not available.

He in Tennessee, a sickle wheel, Levis. That's what he's doing. Oh, yeah. Ain't no balls coming out of there. Ain't no balls coming out of there. See, I can't say, I can't, I keep forgetting on my head, Coach. I can't talk like that. I can't talk like that because,

because you know, my son might be driving. That's it. I didn't see you. You talk like me and you talk on the phone. That's right. I forget. I forget. Hey, listen, Devontae Adams.

To the cheese. They're not going to trade him within the division. You forget that. Hold on. Amari Cooper. Listen, trading players into the division is what everybody does now. You're out your mind. Amari...

Not him. Amari Cooper to the Chiefs? That might be a possibility because if, you know, he probably won't out because they've been killing him. Clearly they ain't been out no going out of business. Right now ain't nobody giving up until like week eight. Even they start positioning themselves for the draft. Ain't nobody giving up this early. Listen, Andy Reed, under Andy Reed, come and call them.

You never know. It's a lot of receivers out there could play ball, man. They then got an opportunity. I'm telling you, I guarantee you they got some cats on the practice squad that could get it in. I mean, we talk about making a difference right now though. Like, yeah, it's some, yeah. Uh, Patrick Mahomes was eight 19 or 29 to 45 a touchdown, one interception. He was sacked three times.

Kareem Hunt, who they picked up off the street. Remember, he was there in the beginning. I think he was off as a rookie of the year. He's a rookie. He was there. You're there about six years. No, he was there a couple of years. I remember he got that video surface and he ended up they ended up releasing me and and he went to Cleveland.

But they ran the ball pretty well. And if you notice, the Chiefs are doing a lot, putting a lot of emphasis on running the football. Another 25, what, 26 carries, 101 yards, one touchdown, longer 13, Kareem Hunt 14 to 69. Samajia P. Ryder was five of 14. But hey, they got it done. They got it done.

But you- It was ugly. They always do. It was ugly, but they got it done. And they've been winning games like this. Like I said, Patrick is not as sharp if we're used to seeing him. There's a lot of balls sailing on him.

There's a lot of balls getting away from him that he would normally complete. Okay, okay. We ain't gonna do that. Name normally complete. Okay. Okay. Uh, we, we go there. Namely received namely received. Oh, uh, thank you. Uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh got, what's the guy that got from Tampa, uh, Watson, that's about it. Sky more mainly play.

I'm not saying I really know these guys that I really don't watch the pro game like I used to when I was employed by the NFL, but I don't think they, they have those, I know old shows out there, man, that's going to cause double coverage and you're going to deal with him. Yeah, like that's gonna be a problem. So you're gonna tighten up on some things because they could take some things away and I'm pretty sure they doubled in calcium passing down.

Every time. They be foolish not to. Clearly they didn't do a good enough job with doubling the day because he had his best day. I think the thing, young time, that when we look at Patrick Mahone, you take away one of the best offensive weapons in the history and Tyree Hill, and he wins back to back to the bowl, back to back in football, MVPs and irregular season MVP.

So you know how that is. When you get, you raise the bar. So this is what he's compared to. He's compared to what he's done in his first six seasons as a starter. That's the comparison. Not anybody else. I don't care how great somebody plays in the NFL. They don't get compared to Patrick Mahomes. Patrick Mahomes get compared to the previous three, four years of Patrick Mahomes.

Andy Reid, let's understand the connectivity. Andy Reid is arguably the best in the business, the consistency over his tenure of not only being a head coach of Dern, I think with the tight end coach agree back. You remember he was agree Brilliant brilliant brilliant man everywhere he goes he warns success he is who he is You know what the funny thing about it when we talk about Patrick Holmes and his greatness and him being compared to how he was in previous years The fact that Tyreek left is a testament to how good and how great Patrick Holmes is. So even with the lack of having an ultimate player that can hit his head off

the goalposts like Tyreek and still winning two Superbowls after that, bringing Xavier worthy this year and as bad as the chiefs look right now, even though they're winning, they look just like this last year. That defense is outstanding though. It looks just like this last year just like this last year. That defense is outstanding though. It looks just like this last year. Oh, the defense, that defense is outstanding. I got a good one for both of y'all. I'm glad you said that.

I'm glad you said it, Ocho. You talk about Tyree Hill. That made me think about Miami in the tour situation. Because you know, I'm I'm I'm being a father now. I'm not a coach. OK, so that's the situation looming in Miami right now. Right. That. OK, to the situation looming in Miami right now that, okay, two out for what? Two, two more weeks after this.

At least he got the bad week. Okay. So they're about three months. You got to buy a week to say three more weeks. So what would that record possibly look like in three weeks? And if he, uh, wants another concussion, that's, that's got to be all she wrote that we praying that don't happen. That's got to be, even right now we're like,

I don't know. What should he do? Or what should the Miami Dolphins do? They paid a lot of money because they just resigned Tyreek for 30 million. They just gave Waddle because they just re-signed Tyreek for 30 million. They just gave Jay Waddle. They gave him 28 million. Um, but it just played two and an ink ain't even dry.

No, right. If he gets another concussion, what I'm saying is that if he sustains another concussion or, or he's done period, what do you do? That's what I'm saying. He's saying do you have a fire sale? Do you say look we're not going to? No, no, no, you don't have no fire sale. Would you train one of the guys?

No, no, I'm looking at it. I told you I started this off by saying I'm looking at his father. Okay, yes. Not the coach. Okay, I got you. Oh, you're talking about Tua. Yeah. Tua and he's what do you do business-wise if you the Dolphins? Do you go into the draft and take a quarterback which what I'm saying or do you say tour let's let's check this out let's see

what we gonna do is his health more important than that? Hello I think in these contracts he probably he's probably insured on that contract for maybe not the full value, but probably 70 75% for injury. That would be an injury. So he would probably get a settlement. I would say Oh, time what 100 150 million. Uh, also time, what? A hundred, 150 million. Mm hmm. Well, the thing about, we don't know what the true value of these contracts are, you know, this is a great, this is, this is great because

I'll, this is what this also lead to. Let's say because of the two, an injury and things don't work out and it leads to open door and they make a business decision and go into the draft. And boom, should do it to the dolphins. Look. Look at that. See how see how God. So you just got the revelation. Hey, see how God works. That's why he brought it up. That's why he brought it up.

Oh, Joe. Hey, you see how God works. He just thought of it. Don't tell him. Don't tell him. Let him think he just thought of it. Hold on. Stay with me now.

God just brought that to me. I saw what you were putting down. Stay with me now. Stay stay with God. God just brought that to me. I I I saw what you were putting down. I just picked it up. That's it. That's it. Thank you. Thank you. That's where I'm at. That's where I'm at. Hey, he he got his great

assistant with stars and cookies. Damn. Come on, Britch. That waited for a little while. You know, it take him a while. Yeah. Are you going to leave that dog alone now. That dog go out and run that five, that eight, that skinny, that three, he go in there all day. He's trying to beat out you all day.

He only wanna run, he only wanna run to speed out. He wanna run to smoke right, he wanna run to smoke right, so he can catch it and get his head around. Anything across the middle, too, man. No, you ain't go across the middle. No, no, he wasn't doing that. He wasn't doing that. He run that bang eight.

He run that bang eight, he'll keep his skin in him. Anything across the middle. He keep, you ain't go across the middle. No, no, he wasn't doing that. He wasn't doing that. He run that bang eight. He run that bang eight. He'll keep his skin in. Anything across the middle. He keep his skin in. He wasn't too keen on that slant. He wasn't too keen on that over. No, he'll run a slant on cover too because he know that safety is high. Oh yeah, yeah. Listen, listen, anything in man to man. Don't do me like that now. You know? Don't do me like that. That's easy. It depends on who the man was though. It depends on who the man was. Hey, time. I was, Ojo and I was talking. Do you see all these guys running

these three-step slant routes? Can you imagine if somebody ran a three-step slant when you, back in the nineties, and you got Singletary, you got Offerdahl, you got all those thumpers, man, they'd put their helmet right here. And you, if they'd have never called another one. Hey, Brian, you know, you know, it's another issue I'm watching today. A lot of players, a lot of receivers, a lot of receivers are struggling with

getting separation and just just regular man to man, just regular man, the art, the art of actually being able to run routes and actually getting open, creating separation is gone. They're, they're, they're relying on the scheme and the office of the coordinator to get their ass open. We can't touch y'all no more so I don't even know how. I don't know how because we can't touch your past five, pretty much four really, so I don't know how. And a lot of cats are motoring, they ain't hard jamming no more. You know when we stood up there and got the things on. They're motoring out of there, they're getting up out of there. they open they open it they open the door. They open the gate If you if I open the door flies come in your house, I don't know why corners do that

Time can you explain to us in the chain because you are you the greatest to do it? Why would you be impressed coverage and open the gate? If you want if you go open the gate just If you're going to open the gate, just stay off. Because you're scared. And what you fear in life is always going to happen. Yeah. Wow. You're scared. And he know you're scared from the way you come up there. He know if you're scared or not. He know if you... First of all, I don't know why a lot of guys may shade inside. He wants you to have a shade outside.

He wants you there. Where he't want to his head up. Well, you got to hit that shoulder, that shoulder. He wants you shaded. I don't know why they even do that. You know, the worst thing I hate barely. Yeah. Barely. I ain't never seen a guy to make a play with their back to the sideline. How many plays are made in a football game with your back to the sideline? None.

What helped me? And he wants None. Well, it helped me. And he wants that. Oh, you want to see somebody bailing. You got the whole route tree, whatever you want. Patrick Mahomes has a record of 13 and 12 in games in which the Chiefs have trailed by 10 points or more. The only quarterback with a winning record in such situations since 1950 with a minimum of 10 stars for context. Tom Brady is 36 and 61 in games in which he's trailed by 10 plus or more points. I mean, but for my home to be, to be above 500, when he's been behind by 10 or more

points and to be able to pull it off just as a testament to just how great he is. Now if you imagine. Not only great how great his decision-making is when he's down by 10 as well. Yeah. Cause most of the time most quarterbacks fold. Your decision-making is like a launcher. That's why I'm saying Brett. Brett is a gunslinger. I wonder what Brett is on that list because I know he has some tremendous comebacks as well. The Bucks beat the Eagles before we get into the game. Remember, but Baker said a few weeks ago, they wanted me to come in here,

be myself, bring the joy back to football for the guys weren't having much fun. Tom Brady said, I thought stressful was not having Super Bowl rings. This wasn't daycare. If I was going to have fun, I was going to Disneyland with my kids. Do you have a problem time with what either guy said? No, because I'm older, though. I understand what Baker's trying to say, and I understand what Tom has said.

So it's a difference. I understand what he's trying to say. That's a that's a conversation I have with my sons all the time. Baby, I know what you tried to say, but you didn't get your you didn't flush your whole thought out. That's why I love you in this platform. You know why? Because when you was on CBS, you got 15 seconds. You had to get out of there.

It was jump rope. It's like boxing jump rope. You know, 15 seconds. Chad, you know that? Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're right. Yeah, you can't do that, but here you got long form. You get to exhaust your whole thought. Now I know what he's trying to say. I have no problem with either take. But I understand, Tom, you understand like,

time, you know when you win and you win a lot and you win consistent, this is a stressful situation because the expectations, it ain't no weeks off because you expect to play at a high level all the time. And you played Mike within San Fran when you was there. You know how Mike kept that offense. He stayed, and he became the head coach for us. He stayed on our necks.

He stayed there because the level, the expectations, we expect to go out there and win every single week. And he told, I'll never accept anything in a win, I wouldn't have a loss. He says, I don't care about winning. That's not, we want to win, but he made us believe and play at levels that we probably didn't think we can play at consistently.

But oh, it wasn't no key, key, key into the whole lot of key, key, key. He's one of the best I ever seen. I talked to him last year. He's like, Coach Prime, you know, if you want any of the cut ups from our meetings, I filmed everything. I filmed everything. I filmed every meeting we had. If you want to hear that stuff, I will give it to you. I'll come over there and teach you guys. I mean, this is my channel. Yeah.

Let me tell you something, man. I've seen this do diagram plays and a walk through and tell the offense this safety's going to do this. The corner is going to do this. We're going to do this. It's going to be a touchdown. First touchdown, we scored in the Superbowl in San Diego. I had seen him do that play at practice several times and he's everything he said was going to

transpire. It did. It is a touchdown Jerry Rex. One of the greatest signal callers, play callers I've ever seen in my life. Back to the game. Baker finished 30 and 47 season high 347 yards, two touchdowns, zero interceptions. He also had a Russian touchdown. He kept the defenders on their heels, spinning the ball around eight different receivers. Following the Reek 3 dud, Tampa mustered only seven points against a then-Willis Broncos squad. The Bucks got back on track against the Eagles who rent down and did a number on the New Orleans Saints. Let's talk about the Eagles. Ty, What's going on with the Eagles?

Why haven't we seen that level of consistency? Everybody putting it on Jaylen. Everybody putting it on Jaylen Hurts. Y'all know it, quit playing. Y'all know what's going on. Everybody putting it on Jaylen Hurts. He's not a one man game. It's hard.

You don't give them all the credit when they win. It's hard. You're gonna give them all the credit when they lose. You're missing K Brown, you're missing Devontae Smith. Exactly. You mean he missing a lot of credit when they lose. You're missing K Brown, you're missing Devontae Smith. Exactly. You mean he missing a lot. That's right. But they putting it on his back.

You know when you get a bag, they gonna put it on your back, and it is what it is. Baker, Baker seemed to have found a home in Tampa. This is the best Baker has looked since he had that season in which they went to the playoffs, they beat Pittsburgh in what? In the wild card game. If I think it was the wild card the playoff, they beat Pittsburgh in what? In the wild card game.

If I think it was the wild card game, I think they beat Pittsburgh. They had that home game. Baker played unbelievable. Whatever happened, he fell out of favor in Cleveland. He went to Carolina. We know the situation in Carolina is very chaotic. The organizationally is not very good.

Man, what's going on with Carolina, man? Tell me so we both know. I need to know. Like what's really going on in Carolina? You might find out. They look good last week. You might find out. They look good last week in the waiting room.

See how you playing? See how you playing? See how you playing? What he saying? He wanna play with you. He What he saying? He want to play with you. He want to play with you. He want to play too much. You might find out. I mean, did I, I did.

I'm asking. Hey, hey, Ty, what's going on in Carolina? Hey, what I'm saying is I hate it for the kid because you can't just take his confidence and throw it against the wall. And you gave him nothing. You took my bright. Nothing. No support.

Yeah. No, thank you. No support. No, no, no help. No, no girth of talent around him to build something. He pretty much was idea. Now, I'm not gonna say on his own, but that's tough, man. When you come

from a program like Alabama and everybody you got is a five star, they better than the opposing team. Like, and you used to a certain tempo, a certain pace, a certain thought process going into the game. Now you start slowly to lose that confidence, man. And that's tough. Yeah, that is tough, man. I told you, Prime, when he was up there, you know, now it's one thing you're a God-fearing man. You're a God-fearing man as well. But when you get on the podium and they ask you, this is how I knew his confidence was going,

he was shot. And they ask you, do you still have confidence? And his answer was, my confidence is in the Lord. That's not the time for that kind of answer. You can't say that, you can't say that. You can't say that. You can't say that. You know what I'm trying to say?

You said as a football player. Right now? I know you got a relationship with the Lord, but I need to hear you as a man. Tell me you got this. That's what I'm talking about. That's what I'm talking about. They want to check folks to get in your DM. Because you know, I mean, the church folks, I got the tambourine on me. I got me, you know, where you go when you're that guy.

We want to hear you say I'm as confident as I've ever been. I've lost no confidence. I believe in me. My teammates believe in me. We're going through a rough patch. We're gonna turn it around. Now, you might not believe, you gotta believe that sincerely though,

because you might fool, like I said, I used to tell the reporters all the time, I see a lot of people in this locker room got y'all fooled. Y'all think y'all, they thisall think y'all they this and they that. Y'all have no idea. But when you around these guys nine hours a day, five, six days a week, you can't fool none of your teammates

because they see you all the time. Do you agree with this? Y'all tell me y'all agree with this. In our era, the guys that had the crispy, clean images. Were the worst? Were some of the worst kids ever. crispy, clean images. What are the worst? Was some of the worst kids ever. Yeah, that's me.

Then the ones that y'all thought was the bad boys. Absolutely. Was the best dudes ever. Yeah, that's me. That the whole team adored. You agree with that? Yeah, yeah, that's me, that's me, that's me. Yeah.

And we used to just sit back and say, Lord have mercy. When you find out you gonna get hurt, you gonna get hurt. See, going to get hurt. You took the word right up my mouth. I say, if y'all only knew. But that is my place to tell you. You'll find out sooner or later. Yeah. Oh, well. But that is my place to tell you. Oh, well. That is my place. I'm not going to sell him out. God bless you. The Volume. Hey there. It's Michael Lewis, author of Going Infinite, Moneyball, The Blind Side, and Liar's Poker. On the latest season of my podcast, Against the Rules, I'm exploring what it means to

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