Club Shay Shay - Nightcap - Hour 1: Diddy Verdict Reaction + DDG 💩 gate

Episode Date: July 4, 2025

Terron Armstead, Maino, and Terrell Suggs react to Sean " P. Diddy" Combs being found guilty of the lesser chargers in his federal RICO trial, DDG's beef with Apple Music, and much more! 00:00 - Intro06:04 - Reaction to P. Diddy verdict19:28 - Maino on Nas/Jim Jones debate26:27 - DDG vs. Apple Music38:30 - Maino's favorite NY teams (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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top 25 players of the last 25 years starting on June 30th on the iHeart radio app, Apple podcast or wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome to Nightcap Takeover Week 2. It is still a T-Stad takeover. And I am joined by two legendary guests, well, hosts, co-hosts, excuse me. Two legendary co-hosts this evening. I got the future Hall of Famer, a dog, T-Sizzle, and I got the platinum recording artist out of Brooklyn, New York, my dog, Mayno.

What's going on, fellas? What's happening, bro? What's happening? Are we feeling this evening? I'm surprised. Feeling good, man. What's them Fourth of July plans looking like? We got the Fourth tomorrow.

What are we doing? I mean, I'm going to float around a little bit. I've been on set shooting this TV show, me and Shaq and a couple of people, been on it all week. So tomorrow, I think tomorrow's the last day. I'm looking for a plate, bruh. Can you tell us about the show?

That, hold on, what you got? It's a mob-inspired show. It's a show that's already on TV right now. It's on Amazon, I believe. Prime, it's called Graves End. It's already two seasons in. We on the third season. So we've been shooting for it for the last week. This whole week right here.

What's the name of it again? Graves End. So it's a mob show. It's about, you know, the Italian mafia back in the 80s. Shaq is a gangster. I'm one of the goons. And, you know, it's just the interaction between the white Italian mafia and some of the black dudes that was holding it down in that day.

Really? Oh, yeah. And Shaq is a... That is a... That is a... That is a... That is a... That is a...

That is a... That is a... That is a... That is a... That is a... That is a... That is a... Is that him playing as Aesir? His character is Mustapha. Oh, wow. Big ass guy. How do they shoot that when you stand in that tone? You know, Shaq's like the biggest. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Shaq is guard size. It's hard.

As a director, you think, like, all right, do they give you- Gotta shoot wide. Do they give you like apple boxes to stand on and something like that? How you gonna- Nah, I'm six feet, so I'm all right. I'm cool.

Ain't nobody stand in a picture with Shaq. Like, I met Shaq, I've never felt so small in my life. Like, I met Shaq at like the Nickelodeon Awards or something he was like hosting. And he was just the biggest human being. He had the like, biggest hands. Like, I'm just like, I'm not finished standing next to this dude

and I'm with my woman. I'm not finished standing next to this dude and I'm with my woman. Like, to her, I'm the biggest man she ever seen. But then, here comes looking Shaq, you know what I mean? I mean, Rain, Shaq got four and all them men. I'm like, nah, man, we gotta move around. You had to move away from that.

You had to move away from that. Like, that was the nigga that had more money we gotta move around. You had to move away from that. You had to move away from that. That was the thing that had more money and more accolades than me. You had to move around? You had to move around. Man, we've seen you appear in starring shows, movies, you know, we know you're keeping skills top notch.

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we know we know we know we know we know we know we know we know we know we know we know we know we know we know we know we know we know we know we know we know we know we know we know we know we know we know we know we know we know we know we He was playing the rap, yeah. Let's not forget it was platinum, worked with Biggie, Nas, Jay Z. I think every track album went platinum. This is what I'm saying. Back in those days when they was, you know, when the Fushnickens and all that was out. That's like unheard of.

And that was his favorite group. That's unheard of for a person who's not really a rapper and he like got into rap, and for him to release an album and all of them go playing like people don't understand how hard it is to go platinum like if your album sold 500,000 albums right a major success you know what i'm saying right right right right i mean listen he he had a love for the culture he come from culture, right? You don't have to actually be an artist to come from the culture.

You growing up, we come from the same kind of backgrounds. We all played basketball on crates. We all went to school and tried to play ball. And at the same time we was on our way to school, we was listening to rap music. We was doing the same thing. So, I mean, it's only right, but he's one of the ones that really

was able to cover all those bases. And then when we talk about movies, like, I mean, he did many movies. Blue chips. Where does Shaq was in? Cause I just saw him like yesterday. I was like to see before he cameo'd and that. Like, Shaq,gy out there, man.

And to still be... Irrelevant. Like, right, to stand a test of time. We talking, because a lot of that was, what, early mid-'90s? Early mid-'90s, yeah. Yeah, Blue Chip, I want to say, like, 93, because that was with Penny Hardaway. Right, this is Orlando.

Yeah. This is Orlando. Diggity Pam, Man of Steel. He was like, when Freddie got fingered, like, you know, remember they loved Shaq, like in Hollywood. Like, he was the big man, they was putting him in. Yeah, but it's like, everybody's sleeping on Shaq. He's a mog man, he was putting him in. Yeah, buddy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He was sleeping on Shaq.

He's a mogul. Yeah. Right. Yep. All right, Mano, let me ask you this. I know you got your New York roots. You know, we all have been in the news and browsing the worldwide web.

So what's your thoughts on the Diddy verdict? What's your thoughts on the Diddy verdict? What's your thoughts on P Diddy verdict? I think it was, I mean, listen, it was, to me it was always an overcharged situation. I never felt like it should have been a Rico. I never felt like it should have been in a courtroom. Because if you understand what a Rico is, this was never that.

Rico was created to catch the mob. Like, it's been that way. We talking organized crime. We talking about running a criminal enterprise. All right, now, like, he was doing things that, I mean, I probably wouldn't do it. I might've thought I was a freak, but until now I've realized that I'm really not.

Right? Okay? But at the end of the day, it wasn't a Rico. And then my whole thing is like, they created this whole narrative. And then when the trial came out, we didn't see none of that. Like they had this whole thing about ditty parties.

What happens to the ditty parties? Because if you look at what was going on in the transcripts and what happened in the testimony, those Freak Offoffs were personal. What's the no parties? They had nothing to do with no parties. This was a hotel with a man, his woman, and whatever else they had going on.

And a poor mansion. This was... Right, right. This was closed off, personal situations, had nothing to do with it. Remember all this talk about sex dungeon, underage kids, rapists, all the drugs in the baby OU. I knew the case was was flimsy when,

when they started to only talk about the baby OU. When the feds is leaking, leaking information to the media and they only talking about the baby OU, what we, what we really talking about? Oh, when you talking about the baby. So like, when this comes out, you like, yo, this is bad. And you know, all of us, being in the black community, we know people, like the feds don't come get you

unless they know they got a case. We know the feds don't come, but that wasn't the case here. But that's not always true. And I tell people that all the time, the feds gotta, and you've seen it right now, in this case right here, where they turn and really kind of make a narrative, and really spin it. They know how to do this.

They do it all the time. You'll get locked up for one situation, the next thing you know, you got a conspiracy because they then created a narrative around it. So they do this. It's just that, right. They stack the deck on you and you look at all that time.

They stack it up, it creates that narrative, they tell you exactly who you are, right. And they drag you in the courtroom and say, this is who you are. And I think that now we got a chance to see that because this is a situation where it was a domestic violence situation. This really was. I mean, we're talking about a super rich guy, super famous guy.

Um, come on, man. Like, Rico? Like, really? Like, if he was... If this was a situation where he was... Uh, having Cassie have sex with dudes and the dudes was paying him, that's something. That's something. That's something different. That's something so different because then he would be making money from selling her off.

But that's not this. That's not this. Or like, you know, Rico, like I said, they created it to catch the mob. They couldn't catch like the head mob bosses. So they created the Rico, like if this guy's standing next to you and he collected money illegally this way

and this guy's standing next to you and he collected money illegally this way and this guy standing next to you, he collected money that way and they try to trump all of y'all together. You know what I'm saying? And it was needed to really catch the mob. You know what I'm saying? But like when it came out, we was like, I was like, where's the rocketeering?

But where's everything that they had in the media? Where's the racketeering? But where's everything that they had in the media? Where's the sex dungeon? Where's the underage kids? Where's all of the... All these tapes? And they said, oh, man, all these people, where's these people that was getting raped and all that? Where's all the...

It was bad. Like, we all saw the video and was like, oh, like it's bad. So they see the video and then like, we think it's like, oh, it's only going to get worse from here. Right, because they use that video to get people attached to the movie.

So it was like, it's only going to get worse from here. It's like, what else is coming out? And then transcripts coming out. And then you start to see the interaction between him and Cass and I'm like, this kind of sound like complicit. I'm always down for free golf. I'm always down for free golf.

To me that's complicit. She was like, I said she was with me until she wasn't. And then I was like, that's not really Rico or everything else that they had him charged for it. Like, we didn't see any evidence of that. And like, if I get into it with my ex-girls' new dude, that don't make me, that don't get me a racketeering charge. You know what I'm saying?

Like, I think that's what they were trying to say with the bombing of Kid Cudi's car. Like, oh, that's racketeering. You know what I'm saying? You sent somebody to blow up his car. Like, oh, there's racketeering. You know what I'm saying? You sent somebody blow up his car. I'm like, I didn't- Yeah, that's the part that I'm getting lost on. Like you said, Mayno, where is all those other topics?

Where does that end at? Because- You said T- Because that's a tactic that the feds use, right? It's like they got the media, right? So they leak this to the media to control the narrative. So now what happens is they tamper with the jury pool because now in the eyes of the public, he guilty.

You can't tell people, you can't tell my daughter mother that Puff don't deserve to be in jail based off of what is in the media, not even what's happening in the court. You can't tell the average person that he don't belong in the jail because if you looked at what the media was promoting, it was just this super high, heinous level of criminality

that just makes you feel like this dude was just the worst dude in the world. But in the courtroom, they had to come with this. It was flimsy as fuck. It was real flimsy. We was all like, well, where's the record? They had to drop all that

because they didn't present any evidence of anything to describe this, even at the bare minimum. You know what I'm saying? No, no, no. And that's why he only got convicted for the interstate transportation of prostitutes. Now they saying that you cannot transport prostitutes

from across state lines and do transactional business with them, even though this is all consensual. Even though this is consensual. Now you got, when you talk about complicit, so now you got Puff, you got the woman, and then you got the sex worker. Everybody is complicit.

So now he's the, he had a, he had a one man Rico, right? When do you ever see those? And the reason why he had a one man Rico because he had unindicted co-conspirators, co-conspirators. Who was the co-conspirators? The woman and the sex workers. But what do they do? They use them to testify.

I mean, like I ask my boys every day, I'm like, dude, if an ice cream truck sells ice cream, you know, rolls through the hood, if I buy ice cream and I'm be like, hey, I know some of my boys over here, they love ice cream too, you're selling ice cream, does that make me a sex trafficker? Cause I'm purchasing, you know what I'm saying?

I'm like, dude, you're providing the service and I'm buying it. Like, sex trafficking is, I'm making you do this. You know what I'm saying? Right, and that's the thing. Right, so when you got texts like, you know, I'm always down for a freak off and things like that. And then it's a lot of gray area, right?

Coercion, like you gotta be forcing somebody. You gotta be like, yo, you gotta do this. Like when you think it's sex work, you think somebody locked up in a dungeon. You think somebody is like- Like being kidnapped or against the will. That's what I thought like sex trafficking was. You know what I'm saying?

Like, oh, you know, I'm into some freaky shit. I like seeing my girl getting bussed down and I go buy a guy called the Hammer or something like that. Now I'm sex trafficking because I got to change it. Like I said, like, when the indictment first came out, like I said, I know, we all know that they trump your charges to get you to plead, basically to scare you.

Like nobody, like especially a person in his position who his reputation was at stake, he don't want all this coming out. You know what I'm saying? They was trying to like corner him and then he was like, no, I'm a fighter. You know what I'm saying? Even all this freak off, all this stuff coming out,

what's she gonna say and embarrass him and stuff. Like, and he stood his ground. You know what I'm saying? But everybody know the feds gonna trump your charge. They gonna charge you more than what actually went on to scare you and that like that. But like you said, it was this high profile cage. They had raids at like, at the same time by Tulsa.

You know what I'm saying? LA and Miami and New York. So it's like, I'm thinking like, all right, they didn't set up these raids at the same time. So can't nobody alert each other. You know what I'm saying? They come at, so you think like- Oh, when they come, they come.

So I'm thinking like, they got something. And then as the trial go on, it's like, all they talking about is the saints. Or I'm like, no. And maybe all you. I'm in an orgy, isn't it legal? Like whether you, it's your kink or not, you know what I'm saying?

Whatever your kink is, whatever you into, you in through. All parties are in through. I was as all parties are consensual. I was screaming, where's the parties at? Because you got to understand, they didn't change what the narrative on what a Diddy party is to the point where you have regular people seeing you in the street playing with you. Like you may know it hurts you was at a Diddy party.

We never been to Diddy parties. Like everybody was trying to go. Like we didn't know anything about the set. But none of those, none of the freak off shit had nothing to do with no party. Right, right. Everybody know like, like they tried to even get, you know, King James for it.

King James was like, yeah, you know, did you know for having, you know, like, like, Diddy's always been on the mainstream media, had like the best parties and stuff. 100%. He got an old video. He was like, all right, this is the nice party for everybody, but everybody's going to have to leave in about a couple hours.

Like, he giving his warning. Like, if you stay in here, it's going to get a little wild. You know what I'm saying? So I don't think like, like everybody was like, oh, he was at a Ditty party. He's at a Ditty party. Like, no, I never, I was never cool enough to get invited. But did I want to go at one point? Yeah. I was like, oh, he was at a Diddy party. He's at a Diddy party. Like, no, I was never cool enough to get invited, but did I want to go at one point? Yeah, I was like, how'd this shit out?

No, I've been, and what my point is, is that I don't know, I've never seen nothing crazy, and I don't know nobody else that did, but then when you look at what happened in the court, all of those instances of freak-offs had nothing to do with it. With his actual party. Per se, pardon. All of those instances of freak offs had nothing to do with per se, pardoning.

Had everything to do with a man and his personal kink, his fetish, his sexual nature, whatever. That's his business. It's crazy, it's a crazy, it's an evil world we live in. It's an evil world we live in. Yeah, man. Shit's crazy. Yeah.

But, hey, what, do you think he gonna get time serve? He gonna serve some more? See, that, see, I thought he, I thought he should have got belly. Um, because, you know, because technically, this is the first offender. Um, but thes is dirty. They like to play this game with what they call

unindicted criminal conduct. So when it's time to sentence you there, even though you're not convicted of these things, they like to add in things, something else. You see what the judge said? He said, oh, it was, he got convicted of prostitution. The judge held his belt because the video was casted

because, oh, it was violence. And it was, the worst violence is, is the violence behind closed doors. What? Like, you gotta pay for that. He didn't get convicted of violence. Did he get convicted of violence? No, he didn't get,

you see what I'm saying? And then let's be honest, like that happened like what? Nine, 10 years ago, not to diminish the situation. But it was a long time ago. But it's not like he was out here terrorizing these people. So it's like, when you start saying, oh, we scared for our lives, he was just home. Was he just out here looking, running down,

looking for these people? Right, right. Like, yeah, I don't know. It's a very slippery. It's all about the, it's all about who's spinning the narrative. And it's all about playing with the minds of the people, man, because I realize now it ain't always about the truth.

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podcast. No. I don't know if I'm going off book. No. TA but I've been dying. When I found out we got me, I was like, I already know a question I was gonna ask him. But man, I'm in the hot seat for a second. Yeah. Nas and Jim Jones. I knew it. Nas and Jim Jones, I want to hear the rap.

So, but this is the genius thing right here that everybody not realizing. The fact that you asking me that, the fact that you right now asking me that question right now. This is what this is all about. It's about algorithm man. Jim understands the power of Algorithm the power of the internet the power of conversation Come on, man. We know who Nas is. We know what Nas did. We understand the greatness in Nas as a rap god. Yes, he is. A rap god, right?

But we ain't about that, right? It's about the fact that Jim's saying I'm better than Nas right now. He's saying he's better than Nas right now because why? Because it creates conversation. You just asked me. Yeah. Yeah.

This is what this is about. Yeah. So they say the rap world is like, you know, basketball or competitive sports. Like you wanna say you the best. You know what I'm saying? It ain't no, it ain't nothing wrong with nobody turning out to be the best. You gotta love the competition. There ain't nothing wrong with nobody turning out to be the best. You know what I'm saying? It ain't no, it ain't, it ain't nothing wrong with nobody.

It ain't nothing wrong with that. Like you gotta love the competition. There ain't nothing wrong with nobody's doing it. If you don't feel yourself, especially in y'all business, if you don't feel yourself like that, like pause, you know what I'm saying? Like then it's really, you ain't never gonna have no level. Like you said, such as others better than you.

You know what I'm saying? Yo listen, feel how you wanna feel. Nig said, such as others better than you. You know what I'm saying? Well, listen, feel how you want to feel. Nigga, go say you better than whoever. Feel it, go up it like you better than the world. Like that's how you feel, that's how you feel. Wear that, you understand? But you can feel that way privately, right? You can feel that way in the studio.

You get out going, I'm in the studio, we all in the studio. I'm like, man, I gotta kill everybody in here. But when you say it, when you say it to the public, you gotta know what come back with that. And the fact that he already knew what it come with. He know it, yeah, like, you know. He know what it come with, but it don't matter

because it's about the conversation that creates, the algorithm that creates this energy that every time you turn around now he fighting. Right, so like, I will say this. So like, like I didn't even know like before Jim Jones came out with Ballin, I just thought he was part of the dip set crew. You know what I'm saying?

I didn't really think like Jim Jones was a rapper and don't remember that run Jim Jones had when he had ball in and what else am I thinking of? He did a Diddy joint, the Sherri Diddy joint. Like Jim Jones, he does have like hits, you know what I'm saying? Like he reported to, but like Oz, he was in that transition era before hip hop really became mainstream.

And when you really had to speak, like you really had to have talent, you know what I'm saying? And Oz came out, like, lyrically. And like, I didn't appreciate this until I was older because I was a Tupac fan, you know what I'm saying? When you 13 or 12, you really impressionable, you know what I'm saying? Like Tupac told me, don't listen to Nas

and all these other rappers. So I'm like, I ain't listening to them. You know what I'm saying? And then I like got into a debate and I was like, Nas. And then everybody clowned me. I was like, maybe I need to go back and go listen to this dude. And then like clowned me. I was like, maybe I need to go back and go listen to this dude. And then like, he was just like, Nas, like we did say, he's a rap god.

Nas is a rap god from one of the greatest of all times. Like Nas is a rap god. Definitely one of my favorites. Not only that, like, he was like, he's like part of those brands. Like, he's street, but he's also very intuitive. Like Rob, I mean, excuse me, Nod's is very intelligent. You know, like, Kara, that's one was, and public enemy. Like, Nod started bringing it to me, and I was just, you know, like, Nod's very intelligent.

You know what I'm saying? One of those rappers that can get you to think. You know what I'm saying? And get those rappers that can get you to think, you know what I'm saying? And get you to feel and be happy to be black. Like, yeah, like he started out at Queen's Big Projects is where I'm at now, you know what I'm saying? Like Nas is one of them rappers, you know what I'm saying? No, and not only that, like, I mean,

we gotta really also not just talk about, you know, what he did to rap game, but just on the business side, like the things that he doing. Like, so I mean, listen, man, I'm cool with Nas. Jim is my brother. And, you know, I had the opportunity to work with Nas, perform with Nas, like, you know what I mean?

So it's, we talking about legendary shit, man. Every, you know, everybody even bought something to the game, right? That somebody can leave it. You understand? So what Nas did and what he's still doing on the business side is definitely admirable. So, you know, it ain't, you can't take nothing from-

You can't take nothing from neither one of them. Like I said, I don't wanna discredit like Jimmy, you know't take nothing from no one. You can't take nothing from neither one of them. Like I said, I didn't want to discredit, like, Jimmy. You know what I'm saying? Like, Jim Jones, like, I think I love Jim Jones. You know what I'm saying? Like, we all had, we've all been to a party, and one of his songs had come on and, like, turned us up. Like, all right, I was waiting to hear this.

Like, now I can get there. You know what I'm saying? So I didn't want to discredit Jimmy. I just didn't like that the conversation started from like, you know exactly what he doing. 18 or 18 year old conversation. In the spirit of competition. But that is, that is a perspective though.

Right. So that is a, that is a perspective for some. See, the thing about this is this. Everything is from your own point of view. And a lot of things is from whatever your social circle is. So you had a 19-year-old that said that he wasn't tapping with Nas. Maybe that was just that 19-year-old because maybe that's what his social circle was, and he was more tapped than with Nas. Maybe that was just that 19 year old because maybe that's what his social circle was and he was more tapped in with Capo. So, you know, everything you gotta take

with a grain of salt, man, and everything is relative. You understand? So, you know, like I said though, this is really not about the conversation. This is really just about the conversation. It ain't about us really picking one over the other. This is not what this is about. No exactly.

Spirit of competition, man. We all feel like we the best and I respect it. Actually, for sure. Don't miss the You Versus You podcast. Join Lex Borrero every week as he sits down with some of the biggest names in entertainment to talk about the real stuff, the struggles, the doubts, and the breakthroughs that made them who they are.

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but sometimes that mentality stops you from stopping and smelling the flowers in your own garden. Is it wrong to want more? We migrated, our family migrated here. I'm like second generation. Listen to You Versus You as part of My Kultura podcast network, available on the iHeart radio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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No. I think you gotta learn. I think it can be if you learn how to flip it, but certain things you just don't wanna want to. On your name. Now I don't know if that's that serious. That's crazy. So Apple Music did that, why would they do that?

I don't know, but Diddy G called him out. Anytime the user was typing the poop emoji, his name was popping up, his name started to show up. That is, I don't know about the algorithm, but- Now, I mean, you could probably flip that though. You understand? So that I wouldn't say is a super duper negative because actually it kind of puts you in the algorithm.

And he kind of got that way with the streaming anyway. So you could probably flip that into a positive. It's all about what you do with it. But certain things I feel like I don't even, I wouldn't even want on me. Yeah. Pause, like I wouldn't even want on my name. I wouldn't want it associated with me.

Exactly. So what happened? What did he say happened? He said, I don't know. His name popping up. When somebody, I guess in the search engine would type the poop emoji, his name DDG would pop up.

And it's like a running joke, doodoo gang or doodoo or whatever, but- Right, right, right, right, right. So he called out about it, like to fix that algorithm. So Apple did that? Did they fix it? From the- Yeah, they said Apple did that? Did they fix it? From the... Yeah, they said Apple did that.

Apple Music. No, Apple Music or just... Like, yeah, I'm like so... So you go to Apple Music, you type in the poop emoji. And DDG. Or is it... That's what I was gonna say.

So like if I Google a poop emoji and a whole bunch of DDG shit would come up? What I have right here in front of me is Apple Music. What you think they're trying to sabotage them or something? I don't, like what's the downside to that? It's people have been trolling, saying DDG stands for doo doo garbage. Oh.

Right, right. And he like into it with somebody, right? Right, right, right. He into it with the worms. It's still up on Apple Music right now. Like if you type that in, and he called him like, hey, y'all need to fix this algorithm.

Like my name is not synonymous with the poop emoji. Damn. What does it stand for? It's a lot of publicity. I really don't know what DDG stands for. We got to fact check that. It's a lot of, it's a lot of. Oh, I just put it in. It's a fact.

Damn. It's a fact. Damn. Damn. Damn. They did my dog. Damn. No, Apple Music.

Y'all got to fix that. All you got to do is type in. Can I curse? Yeah. Damn. No, Apple Music, y'all gotta fix that. All you gotta do is type in, can I curse? Yeah. Oh, okay. All you gotta do is type in that shithead that's on your emojis. Yeah. That's a shithead, right? That's a shithead.

It's doo-doo, yeah. It's poop, right? And you click on it in the search engine and his name is the first name that comes up. You say it stands for drop what garbage? They saying it's do do garbage. That's what the people that have been following him saying that it stands for, right?

His name don't stand for that, but they've been playing with them saying stands for do do garbage, but this is dead wrong right here. It stands, DG stands for Darrell DeW, but this is dead wrong right here. It stands, DTG stands for Daryl DeWayne Granberry. Darryl DeWayne. Yeah, his name. Yep. So this is initial. Yeah. I don't want nobody playing with my name like that, man. Apple fixed that. Apple music. Get him right.

Yeah. This is real deal here. This definitely, wow. So back to the point, like all publicity isn't good publicity. I mean, I don't think that that's too crazy, where it's like something that you can't- You know, he probably got a spike in searches or strains. This is what I'm saying, like that, you can flip that. That ain't that crazy.

I would think that would result into him getting his checks. I think that's how he gets his brand is- You can flip that. That can be flipped. He can use that. That ain't something like they saying somebody touched on somebody or raped on something. Yeah, that type of, yeah, certain shit

you don't want wanna be accused of. You don't even want it associated with your name. Yeah, but who's the person he into, into it with? Another streamer? No, it's just random fans trolling him. Fans trolling. He's in the news quite a bit. He having some back and forths.

I know him and his son's mother. Baby mama. No, they beat the bricks off a nigga recently for calling him that in public. I like that. That was pretty impressive. Did he beat? Yeah.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I like that. See, yeah, yeah, they did what was necessary when the nigga is playing with you in public. Yeah, so he and the new, like, I think he into it with like another streamer or something like that. I don't know, don't quote me, but I think they getting into it,

wore the words, like they going back and forth online. You know what I'm saying? I really don't get that. Like, you know, I grew up around gangsters. Like when a gangster had a problem with you, he wasn't going to tell you on Twitter. He was like... But that, that, them days is over with though, man.

So listen, it is what it is. You going to have more words on this internet. That's the fact. I really don't. It's going to happen. I'm like, I don't play them games. Like I grew up in... So what would have happened if somebody that knew you from your hometown, right,

that may have had, y'all might have had some friction in the past, and he start him a YouTube page, and he just start talking crazy about you every other day. I probably know somebody that he know, like, one of the people I'm be like, hey, tell your boy, like, when I see him, we gonna have a discussion, you know what I'm gonna be like, hey, tell your boy, like when I see him, we gonna have a discussion. You know what I'm saying?

Nah, he don't come outside. There ain't no time, like, I don't. No, it ain't that easy. If it was that easy, these niggas wouldn't be talking. Let me just tell you something. You got a whole section of YouTube for guys that just, you know, they monetize their pages and the way that they attract it. The viewership is to talk crazy about artists,

rappers, or whatever. They talk crazy. So this is pretty... I mean, yeah. But they're not doing it just for clout, though. They're doing it for money, because if their page is monetized, right, and they're saying the most outlandish shit, right? And it's like, it's like click bait

for people to click on it. They make it money. Right? So they don't, and they don't care about seeing it. See like, my thing is- Because they ain't coming out. Exactly, like my thing is like, you never underestimate a dude from another hood

because there's another you in that hood. You know what I'm saying? Like... Like, what happened when you run into a nigga that's really about that? You may think this is all about streams and it's all cute, I'm getting clicked, and then you get confronted by that person or somebody that love that person,

that's as close to that person,, like that's really with that. Like, I don't believe in like bringing extra like heat on yourself. So to say like, to start beef for like clips. Like what they're saying is not all money is good money. Like. Yeah. Yeah, but this is for you. So you gotta remember some of these guys

ain't got no outlets, they don't have no other opportunities. And now the internet then provided them a way to be able to make a few tools and views. So what do they do? They do it for the views, right? They motivated by the views because the views bring them what?

Monetization. So they don't care. It ain't personal. We don't be, fuck you, man. Oh, something like that. I don't give a fuck. Fuck you, Mr. Suggs, whatever, whatever. Like I don't care. Like whatever. All right, I take it. At what cost?

What cause? No cause because guess what? If you're not a person that's in traffic coming out doing the things that people do that get money and like the party, have fun, then you're not in traffic. You're making your money, you stay at home. You're in your basement, you're in your girl crib, you're in your wife house, you're in your backyard, whatever you at, you're at. You're not in traffic though. It's all funny games.

Okay, I'm like, we know your story. Like we know your story. When you're in like Brighton Island, like damn. Who me? Like I know your story. When you in like Brighton Island, like, yeah. Who me? Like, I know your story and you the like, things that my baby, you know what I'm saying? You get all kind of unlimited money, you know what I'm saying?

Clean money, you know what I'm saying? Why for clickbait is it worth it to me to like get you back into your old self? Because it ain't even personal with me, it's whoever. whether it's me, or that Joe, or this one, or that one, whether it's you, it don't even matter. Because it's all for the sake of so-called being a blogger or a media person and just saying it. But if you look at the way media is right now,

it's more blog-driven. It's more gossip-driven. Right? So it's like, back in the days, we had the National Enquirer. That was like where all the gossip shit was at. Right? And then you had the real news. Now, everything is gossip-driven. Everything is more like, you know, it's about who's with who and who's doing what, who says something to who.

Was he talking to him? Was he talking to her? Like, it's all gossip driven. And this is where it comes from. This is the age that we live in it. I hear what you're saying. I hear what you're saying. I just think it's buffoonery. Yeah, absolutely buffoonery.

But we gotta know how to, we gotta know what it is so we know how to do it. I'm just, I'm like, no, you gotta understand. Like I grew up a real straight-up gangster. If they're gonna do something to you, trust me, they're not gonna have no evidence that someone could come use in court. Like, yo, we've seen y'all going back and forth right here,

you told them you was gonna do such, such, such, such, such to them when you saw them, you know what I'm saying? Like that rapper, that it was a rapper that got killed in LA at the Beverly Center, you know what I'm saying? Oh, oh, oh, um, uh, Dala? Dala, but like the dude who killed him like ended up getting off,

cause it was like, it was like documented dude saying like, yo, when I see you, I'm gonna kill you, you know what I'm saying? It was like, yeah, said like, yo, when I see you, I'm gonna kill you. You know what I'm saying? And like, yeah, that's how people got off because they were like in self-defense. You know what I'm saying? And like, I just thought that was crazy. I'm like, duh, why, if you're gonna do that,

so why would you like put it out there? You know what I'm saying? Yeah, that question is like for somebody that understands. So you might come from a different background and an element that you understand, like this ain't the way to go about it. But right now in the age that we're living in, that whole thought pattern is thrown out

because we had a place where somebody do something, they almost want you to know that they did it. Like, uh. They want the classout from this. Everything is for social media. Everything. Everything is for social media. Oh my God.

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