Club Shay Shay - Nightcap - Hour 1: DK Metcalf traded to Steelers, Sam Darnold to Seattle

Episode Date: March 12, 2025

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson recap the best NFL moments of the week including the start to NFL Free Agency seeing DK Metcalf being traded to the Pittsburgh Steelers, Sam Darnold signing with the Seattle Seahawks, Aaron Rodgers possible heading to the Steelers, and much more!00:00 - Jets sign Justin Fields08:59 - Aaron Rodgers to the Steelers?25:22 - Sam Darnold to the Seahawks40:42 - Zach Wilson to the Dolphins45:50 - Josh Allen’s $330 million payday51:36 - DK Metcalf to the Steelers(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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After tumultuous Aerologist era in New York has made it clear the decisive and somber decision with a high-upside player on a low-cost deal. The Jets signed Justin Fields to a two-year deal, $40 million with 30 million guarantees. He was celebrating his new deal in Dubai with Michael Parsons, Kyle Pitz, and Bijon Robinson. Fields is expected to be the Jets opening day starter ahead of Tyrod Taylor. Fields would be reunited with Garrett Wilson. The two were teammates for two seasons

at Ohio State 19 through the 20th. Fields was drafted number 11 overall in 2021. Nine spots after the Jets selected Zach Wilson, who was replaced by Rogers and traded last off season He was in Denver last last year now. He's in Miami on a one-year deal fully guaranteed to back up to him. Oh, Joe What do you think about this deal? Now we know definitively Justin Fields is not going back to Pittsburgh. He's in New York. So you like this deal? Yeah, absolutely.

I like it. I like it. Justin Fields deserve a chance to start. He deserves a chance to start somewhere. If it wasn't for me in Pittsburgh, obviously Mike Tomlin had promised Russell Wilson a job. He came in, took the team to four and two, then Russell Wilson took over. We know what happened.

The bottom fell out towards the end of the season. Justin Fields doesn't come back. He was on a one-year deal. He's now going to the New York Jets. Now, the New York Jets have their own problems. One of the problems that they did have, but that they think they solved is a quarterback position in bringing Justin Fields in.

I'm hoping, I'm hoping things go in his favor and they continue to put pieces around him so he can succeed at what he does. Having Garrett Wilson, for one, as a step in the right direction. Fixing the offensive line for two is another step in the right direction. You have Dries Hall who takes some of the pressure off of you when it comes to running the ball. He can also catch the ball out the backfield.

Outside of that, the defense, maybe they can get back, hopefully get back to what they once were. Not last year, but the year before where they were top three in almost every statistical category. When they played, hopefully they can get back to that. And I'm happy for Justin Fields. And listen, now the onus is on you. The onus is on you.

You wanted a chance to be a star, you wanted a chance to be able to prove yourself. Now you got it. And not only do you got it, now you got it in the best place to play. The best market, the media, the world is watching, you gonna be on TV, everything you do is going to be magnified, you know? So the pressure's gonna be on a little bit, man.

This is new, this is the pressure's also gonna be on. Well, also, you know who the backup was under Rogers who played better at spots when he got into Rogers, Tyrod Taylor. Yeah. You know, Tyrod, Tyrod been around for a long time now. That's what, that's one joke. Plays well, you understand? That's one joke on, you can put him on all 32 teams.

He's gonna give you what you need every time he step in there. Every time he step in there, but for some reason they don't view him as a starter when he actually is. That's what he should be. Right. He played really well.

Remember, he started in Buffalo, he took him to the playoffs. And then he goes to San Diego, he gives, he has a college injury suffered in the preseason. They inject it and they end up piercing the lung and he collapsed his lung. So now Justin Herbert starts. Now Herbert plays well. He never gets the job back. So now he's been a backup. He was a backup in New York, played better than Daniel Jones, went to Jets and played good. So he's played well when he's been given an opportunity

Yeah, play. Oh, and he was also a backup in uh in Baltimore Yeah Many back up flacco He did yeah,! What year was this? He was on that Super Bowl team. Oh right, Rod out of ring too huh? Yeah! That's where, and he played, you know, in back spot duty, played well, he goes to Buffalo.

So he went from Baltimore to Buffalo to the Chargers to the Giants to the Jets. Now where was he at when they had the issue with the lung, with the puncture lung? The Chargers. Did he purposely not file any type of action simply for the fact that he... I think he did file an agreement. I think he did file an agreement. Really? I think he did file an agreement. Cause that's tricky, Ocho, because you want to get deep enough in there

and put the medicine in there, and the lungs are right there. The lungs are right there. You have to be cautious. Now you're talking to somebody that shot his ribs up because he had like real cartilage. So it's a very delicate process and it happens. It happens. You know what I would think about too when I just thought about it,

you have to be careful a little bit. I think if you have an issue like that, especially where the doctors are responsible for doing something wrong to you, but I always thought as a player, if you foul a suit and you win, you know the NFL ain't gonna play with you no more. You know what I'm trying to get at Huh? Right. So that's that's that's yeah He said probably a cost of a starting job cuz they pay you salary. So now you know what I mean? You see what I mean? But Huh? Yeah, he's so

Yeah, that's crazy. So yeah, it happened. So I'm congratulating. I'm happy for Justin Fields He's like bro. I ain't going back to Pittsburgh y'all ain't gonna turn me loose Y'all y'all will come in here. Y'all want to do this little stuff like that play to the defense Don't take any risk the last time they took risk is when they had me being they allow big being You got to understand what big big big being had at his disposal to be able to play free. Yeah. They ain't got nothing like that over there. But early in his career, even when he had weapons, it was a defense, they run the bus,

they ran Willie Parker. And then even when they got LeBeyon, they still was an aired out type of a football team because they had all of those receivers. They had Mike Wallace and they had the Sanders and they had the ABs. So they had a nice collection of talent at the wide receiver position. Now I'm not saying, and none of the guys, so I don't want people to misconstrue this, none of the guys that's played quarterback

are comparable to Ben. So we know what Ben represents. But all I'm saying, I mean, I think Ben has the most 500 passing games in NFL history. With that being said, at the end of the day, Ocho, you gotta let me throw a football, bro. This is 2025.

This ain't 1940 football where we run the wing team. Yeah, you got to. Quarterbacks wanna throw, receivers wanna catch, running backs to run. Edge rushers want to rush the quarterback. So you got to let them do what they were meant to do. And so look, I'm sure you're going to try to take advantage of Phil's legs. They're too dynamic for you not to.

But you got to let them throw the ball, Ocho. And I ain't talking about no damn 15 times a game. What the hell do you expect the man to do? Go 12 or 15 for 220 yards, three touchdowns? Come on, man. It's all about understanding your player's strengths. Understanding your player's strengths, understanding your player's weaknesses,

and plan to his strengths, play to his strengths, and try to come up with weakness by doing other things using other people. It's easy. It's the reason he's letting people on the goddamn field. Yes, everybody has a responsibility. You like to move through jets. Absolutely, hell yeah.

But one, only because, okay, I got Bruce Hall behind me. Right. And you mean to tell me I got I got a gangsta and then Gary Wilson out there, too Mm-hmm. Now, I don't I don't know what the rest of the receiver core look like, but I know I could count on fire They might go they might get a receiver. They might take it off as alignment. I Know I know I could count on fire. I'm scram straight I know I know I can count on five. I'm scram screen Let me ask you this how much pressure do you feel this on Justin Fields to show that you know what I'm a capable starter in The NFL not only the pressure on him. I'm not only the pressure on him. Look what a hell he went to play at

That make the precious times 10. True. But what you can't do, you can't be gunshot. But you but it all started here. It all started here. You better listen. You wanted it, now you got it. And not only did you get it, now you got it on the bigger stage. Oh Joe, the Steelers and Aaron Rogers could reportedly have a deal done by tomorrow. He beat them in Super Bowl XLV. He could be joining them soon. Is this a good move by the Steelers? Might be the only move. I'm not sure if they want to go back to Russell Wolfson, but the only move for them to do

at this point, even though the issues that Aaron Rodgers had when he was with the Jets, it didn't work out some of the things that he did away from the, away from the game that affected him, you know, on the field. If there's a, if there's a team or a place where we can go where you understand you have to change your ways because now you're on the back end where they don't need you. They don't need you. And you have to find a way, you know, to, to get in good graces with the NFL in general, letting them know, okay, you know what?

I don't have the leverage I used to have. Things are a little bit different now. The game is getting younger. I'm not the same poor time, all pro I used to be. I got to do things the right way because I'm almost out the door. I have flashes of brilliance. Flashes of brilliance every so often.

I'm up and down. This is going to be my last stop. Listen, you got George. You got George to work with. You got DK Metcalf to work with. I'm not sure what they can do. Primal? Oh yeah, Fonk.

Primal. Charles Alston III. I'm not sure what they're going to do in the backfield. You need somebody to take that pressure off of them so we don't have to do so much. Not to cut you off, it looks like Nigel Harris is about to side with the Chargers. So is Jalen Warren is a free agent too, is he? Or is he back? Because you know everybody feels that they can go get a back because a lot of times people feel like the college back,

his most value is when he first come out. Because guess what, Ocho, he's coming out at the 21 or 22 year old and we get him for three to four years and we ain't gotta do nothing at least for three years. So we run the tread off the tires and then let the ball let somebody else get him So we feel we've got the best out of him That's how they think. I hate that. I hate that. He's a restricted field. I don't I don't you know, I don't like

I don't like the fact that The running back position still if you look at the, that some of the running backs have gotten today is not valued the way it should be, unless you are special, unless you are special. And you can look at it. So I don't wanna say any names because to me it's somewhat disrespectful to some of the deal that they have to sign one year deal.

Yeah, they did. And the running back had a resurgence last year, Ocho. I mean, look, I ain't talking about you talking about the top five back. Let's say you say, say, one, you take Henry, you take Josh Jacobs, you take who else would that are? John Taylor, who is that? Top five right here.

OK, yeah, like it's like them. And then there's a huge drop off like off the cliff. Right. Like, man what the hell? Now that's crazy. Just, I mean, I'm looking at some of the numbers. I'm looking at some of the numbers

like it is the NFL. It's still good money. But for the position and what you have to go through the wear and tear the pounding Pause I'm like guy leading not you sign with the Rams. I Thought he was going to the charge that they're looking at the charges Somebody told me he just signed with the Rams one year. Oh Yeah, I saw that earlier before I even got here. I saw that on Twitter. He signed with the Chargers, right?

One year? Okay. 9.25, okay. They just got, they had the number right, but they had the wrong team. I, look, think about it, Ocho. Look about how many quarterbacks moved. And they're the one of the last ones to move There's a four-time league MVP a Super Bowl winning quarterback. That's you're telling everything I need to know

If this is not a wake-up call for Aaron Rodgers, I don't know what is yeah, it was it was scared me honestly It was there me. Yeah, it was scared me to the point where I'm walking on eggshells where an NFL in which I dominated for a very long time and I've had leverage for a very long time, I no longer have that leverage. They no longer need me right now. The fact that I had an opportunity in New York and didn't get it done and they actually let me go.

I've never been on the losing side of things in that manner. You know what? We gonna show you the door. We good. Shoot, man, please. The Raiders, the Raiders say, hey, we'll trade for Gino. Seattle says, no, we want Sam Darnold.

I was, remember I told you the whole joke? I said, I like a deal for Sam Darnold like what Baker Mayfield got. I'm not fitting to give him no 45, 50 million dollars. About 33 million dollars, Baker has played really well. Next year, Baker probably, if he plays well like he played last year, he's probably gonna, they're gonna tear that deal up

and he's gonna probably get 45, 50 million dollars. Baker has played unbelievable. And Chris Godwin turned down more money to stay, he turned down, well, he had an opportunity to go to the Patriots, if I read it correctly, but he took less money to stay in Tampa, excuse me, play alongside Mike Evans and have Baker Mayfield as his quarterback. Got no problem with that.

But this should, like you said, Ocho, this absolutely should be a wake-up call for Aaron Rodgers. Because your resume, because see, your resume't you didn't do that resume in Pittsburgh You didn't do that resume X Y Z what you did in Green Bay They'll be out there forever remember you but I ain't hey I need you to do some of that for what you did in green value. Yeah, so that here and he had everything you needed They gave him everything you need to They gave him everything he wanted. And he didn't get it done.

He didn't get it done. He did not. I think he wanted Randall Carr. He got it. He wanted Allen Zard. He got it. He wanted Tate Adams. He got it. He wanted his officer coordinator. He got it. I mean Nathaniel Hacker owe a lot to Aaron Rodgers because he's make the Broncos pretend like, he was interested in knowing he wasn't going, got Nathaniel Hacker that job.

That's pretty big. And then he's like, you know what? I want Nathaniel Hacker knowing good will. I understand, but look at the power and leverage as a quarterback that a quarterback has on, especially with quarterback with the accolades and the resume that he has. There's some of the things that he can pull off.

Come to an organization and they give you the keys. They gave you everything. Now they're just gonna give you everything. But look how you acted when it was time for minicamp. When it was time to be a leader of men. The one person that the player is supposed to be able to look up to and actually count on, you are completely different.

You do things your own way, not like the Tom Brady's, the Peyton Mannings, or the Drew Breesers. But you do it your own way. Now, you get another shot in Pittsburgh. And I would think the best thing for you to do, I mean, who am I to tell somebody on how to conduct themselves when they come to play in the game of football when I was an ass clown myself. Look, you will be an asshole. But I'm saying, Ochoa, when you go to a new team, you show up for many camps, no TAs, because you try to ingratiate yourself into that team structure. Because what you did, where you came from, has no bearing on what you're going to do

here. That was my approach when I went to Baltimore. I understood what I had accomplished in Denver. But how was that gonna help me in Baltimore? John wasn't throwing me the ball. I wasn't in mile high. And so now I got to show people, okay, this is how the guy that came here,

this is how I became who I became. The way you practice, the way you do things, the attentiveness that you show. I didn't think I was because I had two ball rings and I was an all pro yada yada yada. I didn't go in there thinking I was better than them. I went in there, I humbled myself. Hey, I need to be an OTA?

Here I am. The only thing I did say, they used to have a test, Ocho. The conditioning test, you had to run on the treadmill. How you did? Man, I told Friday, you remember Friday? Friday with y'all, you all had Chip in Friday too, but the roles were reversed. Friday was the head, Chip was the assistant.

And Cincinnati, Chip was the head, Friday was the assistant. Man, they got on the thing and you know you start off in like eight, you run on there for two minutes and they go to nine, eight down, but you gotta be under like 20 minutes and I'm looking at everybody and I'm thinking to myself, is this a new form of football? Because we ain't gonna be playing on no treadmill. I say Friday, I'll be back. I went right upstairs to see Brian. I said, bro playing on the treadmill. I say Friday. I'll be back I would write upstairs see Brian. I said bro, what what what the treadmill gotta be working out? He said what's wrong? So bro, I run on the grass. I run on the ground. I play football on the ground

I say bro, I can't do that cuz the car ain't no worry about it. I Say I came right back down. I said I talked to Brian. You ain't doing it. That's a wrap I said I talked to Brian. You ain't doing it. That's a wrap. I like stuff like that. I like stuff like gases, conditioners, stuff that actually had... I like actually running, Ocho. I like actually running. And I had just got off a hamstring injury. I had just got off a hamstring injury. That's understandable. Hell nah. I just got off a hamstring. That's understandable. I said, no, I don't need it. That's understandable. No, hell no. But let me ask you this, Ocho.

How do you think the pairing is going to be with Aaron Rodgers and Mike Tomlin? It's going to be good. Listen, one thing about it, I guarantee you, any player, no matter who you are, no matter what you've done in the NFL, they have respect for their young bull out there. I'm talking about young bull. They have respect for Mike Tomlin. All of them, including Aaron, walking in that building, going to play for that historic franchise.

For a coach that's been consistently good, I mean, not where they should be, but he's been consistently good and always winning year in and year out. You're coming in with respect. I'm sure, and I'm sure Mike Thomas is gonna give him that same respect based on who he is and what he's done. But again, like you said, the hole's no way to have no bearing

on what you've done so far. You got to update your resume every year, huh? You do, you absolutely do. And that's what I love about sports. This ain't no, hey bro, you got, no, you gotta update your resume every game. This a game to game. Now you get an opportunity to do it.

Cause this ain't no, this ain't like no regular job, Ocho, where we have a year in review. Now we review your stuff every week, bro. I can't wait till the end of the year to make a decision. I might need to get you up out of here after week five, after week six, after week 10. I can't be afraid to make change. Right.

The only constant you will ever have in life is change. Whether you choose to adapt and evolve and change with it, but change is the only thing that's constant. Hopefully, I hope Aaron understands that. Yes, your career in Green Bay was sensational. I mean, some people might have think you, based on who you are, your body of work, those MVPs, the consistency,

the touchdown to interception ratio. Some people might say, but damn, Aaron, you left some out there. Losing to Jimmy Garoppolo, twice. Russell Wilson in his third year. I remember that. You lost to, who else? Lost to who else lost the time you wanted you you wanted home field you said I want the role to the Super Bowl to lead

through Green Bay and I've been damn if you ain't let time if first year in Tampa come there and put a bus in yeah yeah for MVP you got to you got to get to at least two to three Super Bowl don't show I I ain't saying you gotta you gotta get to least two to three With four MVPs Ocho? Four? Four. Manning has the most he had five. Manning went to three Super Bowls. I think Montana has two MVPs. Montana went to four subo's. Brett Favre went to two. Elway got one MVP, he went to five.

With four MVPs, you gotta be at least two subo's. You got to, you got to. And don't get, look, and he, I mean, ain't like he ain't have no weapons on him. Jordan Nelson and Craig Jennings and Donald Crosby, to Michael Phelan, he's always. Jordan Nelson and Craig Jennings and Donald Crabb, Michael Phelan, he's always. So it's gonna be very interesting to see.

It's gonna be very, it was difficult seeing him in a jazz uniform because you get so accustomed to seeing a guy in a said uniform. I mean, it's like, damn, I mean, now you'll probably see him in a different uniform. Maybe the Steelers, it seems like, you know, but what, who would say that? Shepter? That a deal might be reported. Shepter didn't report it. It's pro football talk saying it could be a deal to see Aaron Rodgers in a different uniform. Yeah. to see Aaron Rodgers in a different uniform.

Yeah. They need it though. They need it even though it's not Aaron Rodgers of old, but the fact that, okay, if we can get him somewhere just close to being a little consistent we'll be all right. Cause look what we got to deal with already in our division. Yeah, we see, you know who else got to make another splash? The Cleveland Browns. There is no way to compete in the AFC North

unless you have a quarterback. Cause in defense they don't get it done. You're not going to dominate on defense. That can't be your identity. Not going against Joe Burrow and Lamar Jackson. Now Aaron Roger being in Pittsburgh, the Cleveland Browns are gonna have to make a splash. I don't know where they're gonna go.

I don't know who they're gonna get, but they don't have any choice but to make a splash. Cause you can't rely on your defense to be able to stop these teams. Now, cause here's the thing. You gotta score. The NFL's about scoring. That's why they instituted the rules, because they like scoring. We like scoring. Yeah.

Baseball, they like to see the ball go over the fence. Basketball, they like to see people, they like to see one twenty-seven, one forty, one twenty-seven. They like one forty-five to one forty-three. That's what we like. We've always liked scoring. Baseball, I mean, maybe you get a Purist and he wants to see a 2-1 basketball game.

I mean, excuse me, a 2-1 baseball game. Or in soccer. But no, Ojo, I don't want to see that. Excuse me, in hockey. No, bro, I won't put, hey, make it 6-5. Baseball, make it 10-11. Not what I want to see. All that other stuff, I don't care about that. It's being reported the Steelers are also signing Darius Slate.

Slate is going there. Hey, listen, I'm going to bangle that hard, right? I'm going to chat. Y'all stay with me real quick now. Darius Slate is well capable of still being an elite corner in this NFL if you watch them play last year You've you seen some of the clips that I saw Still they still got it still got a strip. Well guess what? We're gonna be put to the test because if Cincinnati bring back yeah Higgins you got to deal with T Higgins and you got to deal with Chase He got to deal with Bateman and he got to deal with the other deal with Chase. He got to deal with Bateman and he got to deal with the other uh uh uh Zane Flowers. It's a good thing. I like it. The pairing, this is this a nice pair now, might be two of the best

pairings outside of uh Marlon Humphrey and uh what's uh uh Nate Wiggins. I like Nate Wiggins too. He looks he a little on the slim side but he nice. Joey Porter, Darrius Slade, I like that. Oh Joe, the Seattle Seahawks have agreed to sign free agent Sam Darnold to a three-year deal, $100.5 million dollars. Seattle is giving Darnold $55 million in guarantees. You like this move for Seattle. I like the move because I don't like the move for Seattle. I like the move for Sam Darnold though. I like the move for Sam Dono though. I like the move for Sam Dono.

We saw a small sample size of Sam Dono in New York. Okay. He didn't really have nothing to ride with. We saw a small sample size of Sam Dono in Carolina. He didn't really have nothing to ride with. Boy, you put goddamn Sam Dono over there on the Minnesota Vikings. Boy, he look like Joe Montana.

Boy, he look like Joe Montana, you hear me? He ain't got that in Seattle. Can I tell you why he look like that though? They got a young bull over there named, last name Hawkinson. Huh? They got a young bull over there, probably the best receiver in the NFL outside of Jamar Chase and Justin Jefferson. They got Addison, young bull, crazy, giving you crazy work. Yeah.

So that's how they were able to get paid like that. So now he get that money down now, now you got to come and show up. You have certain, you got certain quarterbacks that elevate the receivers around them. You have certain quarterbacks that need the receivers around them to elevate the quarterback play. So now you got to come in and show out. Right now all they have right now is JSN. I like JSN. I like him.

You know, they got to get something else over there. You know, let Tyler Lockett go. You know, let DK Metcalf go. I'm not sure what kind of rebuilding stage they in, but they, they playing with Legos. They done started over from scratch. For me, I don't think that Sam Darnall is better than Gino. Now, maybe you didn't want to give Gino an extension. Gino's going to make 31 million this year. He probably go look for something north of 40.

You get Sam Darnall for about 33 million, But go back and look the last two to three years. Gino has outplayed it. Now, maybe you want to move on, we let Lockett go, we've let D.K. go, hey, that's we're going to start fresh, we're going to get all that up, all that Pete Carroll, we're going gonna get that up out of here. Yeah. But I don't think Sam Darnold is better than Gino. Well, you know he's not better than Gino, huh? You know he's not better than Gino,

but I'm just saying we have to understand why Sam Darnold was able to do what he did in Minnesota. I always say a quarterback is only as good as his important cast. There are very few quarterbacks in the NFL right now Donald was able to do what he did in Minnesota. I always say a quarterback is only as good as his opponent cast. There are very few quarterbacks in the NFL right now that can go to any team and regardless of what's around them, they can excel.

Regardless of who's around them. Lamar Jackson's one of them. Josh Allen is another one who did more with less. There's a few others, I'm not gonna say no names, there's a few others. They can go on any team. I don't care what you put around me, I'm gonna get the job done no matter what. I don't care how much talent, how much skill I got around. It's because of the onus in what I can do and that's why I'm special. Hell, that's why Josh Allen just got the deal he got. And that's why I'm special. Hell, that's why Josh Allen just got the deal he got.

Sick for 330. That's why he got the deal he just got. That's why the quarterbacks like Lamar Jackson and Joe Burrow make the big money. Some people say, well, Joe Burrow's only doing what he's doing because he had Jamar Chase. Put him anywhere. Put him anywhere. The skill set doesn't change. You being able to throw skill set doesn't change. You being able to throw the ball doesn't change.

All you need is the players around you to get the job done. Somebody said in the chat they offered Gino the same contract they offered Dono. Why would I take, why would I, so you mean to tell me I played the way I played, I've gone to Pro Bowls and you're going to give me a two million dollar rating? Please. Screw you. Child please. I mean I wish I.

I like that for Gino too. I like that. Yeah, and so do I. Oh Miami, Miami's one of Miami's finest, you know, Smith. Sam Darnold ranked 14th in QBR, the seventh which was seven spots ahead of Smith in route to the Pro Bowl But Darnell also had 11 sack debacle in their wild card playoff loss to the Rams if you look at it the last two games I think they played Detroit and they played the Ram

They play they play Detroit Yeah, they played Detroit cuz they had that come from behind win Then they played Detroit and the short mopped him and then they went to the playoffs in the Rams crush me so he is, his play is very, very receiver eccentric, which means he really need quality players around him to elevate him. I don't believe he can elevate, they need to elevate him.

And that's what you got with Jeddah. That's what you got with Hawkinson. That's what you got with an Aaron Jones. That's what you got with an Aaron Jones. That's what you got with an Addison. Now it's gonna be very interesting to see what they put around him. He only have Jackson Smith and Jigba that's still there. Or they have Noah Phant who's still there. But what are the other receivers that you're gonna pull it? No DK, no Tyler Lockett. So what are you gonna surround him with in order to, and hope you get the production this year that he gave Minnesota last year?

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So, I think they gonna be all right. But that's just very questionable about some of the moves they made. What, for one, Lockett, I don't, how you let the preacher go? I call Lockett the preacher's wife. You can't let the preacher's wife go. You know that goes against everything God's saying for. Now DK, he wanted his deal. They weren't gonna pay. Yeah. Now I understood that move.

But, hey man, hey the business, the NFL is crazy. Sometimes they make you sit there and scratch your head. But it's the nature of the business. You've been around it for so long, you play it, and you see how they operate, nothing should surprise you. Yeah. Oh, yo, I love what Jamar posted on IG. Know your worth, then add tax. Yeah, he don't play.

But when he goes to another hotel. I saw it, I saw it, he don't play. Oh, you don't, man, not, you're not listening to me. Give me me. Give me, give me, give me me. They played with you last year. There's certain players that love the game and you know, you can play with them, right? You can play, you know, when the NFL knows you love the game so much that you're coming to play, they'll take advantage of you.

Now, you got somebody like this who showed you, all right, man, I'm going to sit out. I'm not going to give you. I ain't cutting no deal. At all. Now, you played with me last year. This year? Nah. Yesterday's price ain't today's price. I need all that. Yesterday, today's price is two years from now price. I'm charging. I know the economy.

I know, hey, I know we wiped out a lot of games over the last couple of days. The Dow and the NASDAQ is down, but I I need all that oh yeah oh yeah I a bit for what y'all did to me I cuts nothing I'm charging I remember when I was growing up in my grandfather you take me and my brother we go clothes get Easter shopping we buy one of them you know buy two suits you get two suits for 99 dollars they throw the tie in the pocket square for free. Jamar say I'm charging everything all the car. It's 15 million for I let the league and receiving yards. It's 15 million I let the league and touchdown. It's 15 million I let the league and

catch it. We're about 45. Make it right. Make the money right. Toven you and Mike Brown make the money right. Hold on, you and Mike Brown, make the money right. Hold on. And if it ain't what it should be, I ain't touching the field. I'm not touching the field. I'm not touching the field until week eight, because I want to make sure I get my credit this season. I will do that. Oh, but y'all can pay me. I'm not cutting paid.

T, I will really love you, but I ain't going to save no money now. I'm just letting you know I ain't saving no money Ain't gonna be no sprouts. Mm-hmm. Oh That's funny, man That's funny They don't never cut they don't cut these they don't cut these are Still cutting no breaks. No, They can make them pay top down. So I need that. You got the choice.

I need that. Oh, and plus you already told me you were gonna make me the highest pay. You gotta be careful. It's like, hey, Ojo, you better have say, we're just staying together and you don't problem your girl. Hold on, hold on.

Oh, don't forget they done lied to me once already now. Well, they said it with their food that they gonna pay me last year. So now you're worried. Now you're worried. I really can't stand on your word because you told me one thing last year and then you bumped the system on me. You bumped me. So I don't know what to believe now.

So now you get a post like that. Because now it's strictly business. Oh, that's all it's ever been. Because y'all told me y'all were gonna take care of it. Now I look at y'all you say your promises like pie crust thin and easily broken. I can't believe nothing you tell me. I wrote that one down before. I remember that one. That's a good one. Yeah so I need all that. I want everything I promised yesterday and everything y'all took in today. You remember all the things we say we shake our face?

That dude snaggertooth, snaggertooth. Yeah. Classic. Mama need a dress. Baby need new shoes. And you need teeth. Now roll her face, both folks. I don't roll.

I don't roll here. I told you kids getting bad. I told you kids give me bad luck. Either get that kid out of here. I don't know. It's my place. It's my place. My place. Kid ain't going nowhere. I'm gonna stick you and I'm definitely gonna stick you. And I'm gonna stick that and I'm definitely gonna stick you. And I'm gonna stick that slow walking grounder boy thing. Oh! That thing he crapped out. He was hot. But he said, hold on bro,

had you won, we'd have paid you. I paid a man about a day and I ain't selling punk. Hey, hey, hey. Hey, hey, hey. But Jamar Chase want that bread, Ocho. I need that. Get your money, Chase, get your money. Chase was, Ocho, check this out.

Last year, he was open to a deal, averaged around 36 million, instruction right. Bingles couldn't get it done. Now, triple crown. Triple crown, triple the price. It's crazy. Money, money, yeah, yeah. Money, money, yeah, yeah. Get em Chase. Oh, the high-spade non-quarterback is 40 million. Chase said, I need, give me, give me, hey, I need 41. I need my five years.

Anyway, they got, you see, hey, the first three years, I need a hundred piece. Make it 105. A hundred piece. Make it 105. Just, hey, Just a good measure. As a matter of fact, you know what? I had to take out a Lords of Loving policy.

Just in case I get hurt, that could replace the value that I was gonna lose. I need that money back too. So throw that in there. Throw that in there. Throw that in there. Throw that in there. Throw that in there. Absolutely, absolutely. Hey, it's been a good time.

It's been a good time. It's been a good day for me, for Dan and Phil. Ocho Chateasaw. Had they, this is what the Bengals, because they waited till the last minutes, they could have had Jesse base for 12 million They didn't do it. He leaves gets 15 16 from the falcons t higgins They could have had two higgins for about 23 mill a year now. They're gonna have to pay him north of 30

Jamar chase you could have had it for 35 36 36 now you're gonna have to play in 40 plus Trey Hendrickson could have had it for 25 Now you got to play him now. You're gonna have to be sandwiching me somewhere between 30. He wants north of 30. Yeah. Two back to back season with 17 and a half sacks. I can't say I disagree with him. And I look at what Philly's been able to do

with Devontae Smith, with AJ Brown, obviously Saquon, Jalen Hurts, and being able to play everybody. Do you think they were able to do with Devontae Smith, with AJ Brown, obviously Saquon, Jalen Hurts, and being able to pay everybody. Do you think they were able to do it because they paid early? They struck before it got hot with great understanding and it just happened that they waited too long? Yes.

Bro, you see these guys practice every day. You see how these guys meet. You see them play. They don't get in trouble. What are you waiting for? The longer you wait, it's almost like you're betting against them. Yeah, basically.

They're gonna have a down year. They're gonna get injured, decrease the value. Well, there's a chance that happens, but what happens when it doesn't? Right. I never looked at it like that, you know? Hey, the betting against your own players by not paying. Yeah, when your franchise tagged me,

that's basically what it would've sounded like to me. You're betting against me, yes. I'm betting against you. You're betting. That's crazy. I've never heard it said like that. I just saw it as I don't value you long-term. I didn saw it as, I don't value you long term. I didn't even think about the concept of,

you know what, I'm betting against you because I don't think you can do it again. So you know what I'm gonna do? I'm gonna tag you. Now show me, show me. I ain't gonna give you a long term. I'm gonna make you prove it again. And guess what T-Higgins,

I believe that was a fluke the last three years. I'm gonna tag you again. I believe that was a fluke the last three years. I'm gonna tag you again Zach Wilson signs a one-year deal. Yeah, oh Joe you buy That was a jerk about man, I'm gonna get me a Zach Wilson Jersey Listen, you saw me. I wore two jerseys on this show. I got every soccer jersey you could think of. I wore a Jamar Chay jersey, and what's the other jersey I wore on the show?

Wear it out. Zach Wilson. You got, how many Zach Wilson jerseys you got? That one green one I had on that time on the show? Wear it out. When you get back to your car, you'll have four more. They're talking somebody like Zach Wilson, so they's like, hey. Hey, listen, don't talk about my dog.

Listen, you know who had the better seats in New York than Aaron Rodgers? Zach Wilson. Listen, hey, Zach, I know you're gonna see this, baby. I love you. I'm glad to have you in the city. If you need someone to show you around, I'm the perfect tour guide. You know, I don't go out.

I'm in bed by nine o'clock, but we gotta go. We gotta go hit tootsies. Zach, we gotta hit tootsies. I'm sure you're probably married. You have a wife, but it's okay. I just want to talk football. I want to talk football. They got chicken wings, seafood rice and lobster tail

They got chocolate cake and we can use our peripheral vision to make sure we focus but still see what's around us You hear me? You got to be aware your surroundings. So I'll let you boy Zach. My number still the same You said they got chocolate tail what you say? I'll be talking I'll be talking to bad. Oh, yeah I know you do chocolate cake. I know the cakes you talking about chocolate. Yeah, okay. Let you know not like that. Not like that I'm really I'm really I'm like they talk about food Oh, if you've never been to to see you got to go to to see for the food you have I know it listen Try the food Shrimp Alfredo okay chicken and shrimp I'm alert I'm alert oh my bad my

bad so you can't see food right you can't love you eat lobster either huh no oh they got big only call it Ari oh oh yes that's a fish. Damn, you can't eat nothing. Shellfish, mullets, oyster, scallop, lobster, crab. None of that. Jesus. Anything that has iodine in it. Can I ask you a question? Like, if I put, I can't do betadine on my skin. Anything that has betadine in it will burn my skin.

Burn? You mean like itch, itching? No, it'll burn the skin. I can't put betadine in it to burn my skin. Burn? You mean like itch, itching? No, it'll burn the skin, the skin, I can't put betadine on my skin. It instantly discolors my skin. Oh. So I have to use like Fizer Clean or something like that. Hey, how do you find some out,

like how do you find something like that out? When they put it on my black ass and my skin, discolored. Oh. The same way you find out that you put bleach in your washing machine when you get colors and they spotted. That's how I found out. I didn't know.

Well, I knew I was allergic to shellfish, but it didn't really dawn on me that, okay, Betadine has iodine in it. But after trying, it ain't tell you. You told me a couple of times, I'm like, well damn. Oh, see, you did it multiple times. Okay. Yeah. But I was like, well damn. Oh, see, you did it multiple times. Okay. Yeah. But I was like, why am I scared of this coloring?

You're like, well Sharpie, and then you know, went to that like, well, it has iodine. If you're allergic to shellfish, you're probably allergic to iodine, because that's the, what people, what they've said, what they told me is that,

that's probably the common ingredient, because there's iodine in shellfish there's iodine and beta down So we recommend that you obviously clearly don't eat shellfish but stay away from beta down find another cleansing solution I mean, that's what I was that's what I did The Panthers quarterback J.C. Horn agreed to a four-year The Panthers quarterback J.C. Horn agreed to a four-year, $100 million extension worth $70 million guaranteed, making him the highest paid DB in NFL history. I like it. I like it. Listen, I'm a huge fan. I'm a huge fan of DB play. Those of you in the chat that have watched the Carolina Panthers play, those of you in the chat that are fans of defensive cornerbacks, I know J.C. Horne is one that you like. Pass or tame might be the best. One who doesn't get the credit he deserves based on his play,

whether it be man to man, whether it be man to man, bump and run or off in J.C. Horne. I think he's one of the few that allows his defensive coordinator to do much more that they want to do defensively because of how well he can play man to man. I love J.C. Horne. He's technically sound, doesn't get the credit he deserves, is not showcased because of where he plays football at. There's a reason why they paid him what he did.

There's a reason why they paid him what he did. I've been watching him. I've been watching him all these years. And he's the real deal. He's the real deal. He just doesn't get the credit he deserves because of where he's playing at. He don't talk much either. He ain't gonna talk much, but he gonna go out there and play and he gonna walk it every time. He real nice. And the fact that he hurt his foot, I forgot, I think it was maybe last year, year before last, he hurt his foot. The Bills and Josh Allen reached an agreement on a new record-setting contract. Six years, 330

million. A contract that includes two hundred a quarter of a billy. Mmm. The largest guarantee ever given to an NFL player. Allen had four years left on his deal, but the Rebills will reward their franchise quarterback with a new benchmark deal. Mm- deal. The last 100 days been pretty good for Jared Allen. On 11-29-24 he got engaged to Haley Stanfield. In 2-6-25 he won his very first NFL MVP. On 3-9-25 he agreed to the richest contract in NFL history. Six years, $330 million. If I'm not mistaken, Ocho, he gets $100 million. No, that's what you call

his contract. How much he got? He got $143 million. How much you get guaranteed? $250 million. I'm thinking about Bob's guarantee. $250 million. So that passes the Deshawn's $230 million. Remember, Deshawn got $2 Remember Deshawn got 230 guaranteed. Basically he got his whole contract guaranteed. Yeah, yeah. He got all but 80 million of his guaranteed. Yeah. You notice, you notice some, we talked about a few shows. Josh Allen, I keep saying Jared Allen, Josh Allen.

Yeah, I remember we talked about some not too long ago when it comes to quarterbacks. Yes. Every time they get married, every time they get engaged, you know that's everything else they got going on. See, like, it's stuff, stuff is wrong. It's not possible, Ocho. I mean, it's, I don't know if it's part of tradition,

if it's something that they have in a clause, if it's part of some type of ceremony, every single one of them that get married or gets engaged or that has a partner that is the face of a franchise, which Josh Allen is, and there's some other examples, as you can probably say once I'm done talking, that I can't think of right now at the top of my head, you know, the Brady's, you know, the Peyton Mannings, the Jubrizes, the Matthew Stafford. I mean, I can keep going on and on. A common denominator is marriage, a woman. Seeing it just for some reason,

it seems like everything else in life, once you do that part, everything else just falls right in line. So what does that tell you you and I need to do? Yeah, keeps you out the streets, keeps you from chasing, you're home studying, you got a confidant, you got somebody that's there for you, that you can come home, you can vent, you can vent to when things are not going well, they understand your situation.

Babe, look, I'm trying to be one of the best, if not the best, to have ever played this game. I need as little distraction as possible. Now, there are going to be days I come home and I had a bad day at work and I'm gonna be able to bring that home to you, baby And hopefully you understand but babe you and I can never be able to probably be in a situation where I take you to work It can never get that bad. I'm gonna need you to understand baby. They're gonna make they're gonna be games Why don't play well and I'm gonna be moody as hell baby understand don't take that as take that don't take it with anything but love Don't take it with anything but love babe because I do love you, but this is a very physically demanding

This is a very emotionally demanding and it's a very psychologically demanding game It is it plays with your mental. Yeah, and baby all I ask you to be patient with me. Mm-hmm. That's all And look at the reward look at. Look at the reward with patience. Yeah. Unbelievable. Most guaranteed money, Ochoa, before you finish your thought. Most guaranteed money, Josh Allen, 250 million. Second most guaranteed money, Deshaun Watson, 230 million. Third most guaranteed money Deshaun Watson 230 million third most guaranteed money Dak Prescott two twenty nine point four Joe Burrell to 19 Allen becomes the first player in NFL history to court at least 25 touchdown passes

Ten touchdown runs with fewer than ten interceptions in a single season. He finished the season 28 rushing 28 passing touchdowns, 12 rushing touchdowns, six interceptions. In recent days, the Bills, Josh Allen, six years, 330. Gregory Rousseau, four years, 80 million. Terrell Barnard, four years, 50 million. Khalid Shakir, four years, 53 million. So you see what they're doing. They're rewarding the players that they drafted, keep it together. Because you, if, if, if you go outside, you see to get a Miles Garrett, you see what you had to play? Oh yeah. You got to put two, you got to put two of that, that 180, you got to put two of that together.

If you go get a linebacker, you see what you're going to have to pay? You go get a wide receiver. You see what you're gonna have to pay you Go get a wide receiver She's gonna have to pay because you've got a Devante just got two years at 50 at 52 million Mm-hmm secure got four years at 53. So if I can keep my players Mm-hmm, and I can keep it I can get them but you see oh Joe you see quarterbacks I can keep it I can get them but you see oh Joe you see quarterback Josh Yeah, I have four years on his deal. Yeah, they make that go all the way to the they made what you call a play all the way Damn, they're today in his contract. Hey

They understand they they know you they you know who you can play with and you know who you can't but see but Harry what happened You know what now you see what happened now the GM for the You know what, now you see what happened. Now the GM for the, your Bengals said at the combine, your Mark Chase is gonna be the highest paid non quarterback. Now, I don't know if he noticed the past two days, what the two non quarterbacks got. Now I told you,

Chase was going for north of 40 because that's just what Miles Garry just received. DK Metcalf was traded for a second rounder to the Pittsburgh Steelers The teams are flipping picks in the sixth round and seventh round as well in 2025 he was set to be in his final year of his contract, but DK is signing a new five-year 150 million dollar contract making the deal the largest in franchise history in terms of new money Steelers wide receivers now George Pickens Calvin Austin the third DK met cap finished in the top 10 among 138 qualified players and yards per reception in

2024 Alec Pierce was number one at over 22 yards. Jamison Williams over 17 yards. Rashad Bateman at about 17 yards. AJ Brown was 16 yards. Calvin Ridley, 16 yards. Pickens was 15.3 and DK was 15 and Calvin Lawson was 15.2. So they got three guys that are big play potential.

Yeah, absolutely, absolutely. And listen, that's what I like. Brother Alton Smith, you ain't got to do much. that a big play potential. Yeah, absolutely, absolutely. And listen, that's what I like. Brother Alton Smith, you ain't got to do much. Sometimes you get players on your team that make your job a lot easier as offensive coordinator. Who threw it on the ball, me or you? Man, listen, we talk about DK Pickens together as a duo.

I don't care if the Sisters of the North were at quarterback for the stealer. You get them boys- Who threw it on the ball,? Me or you? You ain't hear what I said. It could have been one of the Sisters of the North, one of the nuns. You got George Pickens, you got DK Metcalf. As officer coordinator, it's not hard. You don't have to make things complicated. Understand your skill sets and receive that you have and put them in position to make plays. Okay if it wasn't that hard, why was our George Pickens always upset? Oh, cuz they didn't know how to get involved Well, you said don't matter. Oh, no, I'm telling you how easy it is for me as a receiver

Now I have to hang on them to do it with what they get they got an offense They got even you had trouble getting the ball sometimes didn't it me? Oh, yeah I know you had them games like that them games you're going you're going to play and the defense coordinator say you know what I don't come hell or high water. He not been to beat us? Hey he not beat me. Not today. I hate those kind of days and you have to weather the storm. Yes. Obviously George Pickett's being young he didn't understand that but he had his fair share of those games. And Jordan Pickens looking like hold on wait a minute what about what about me? Oh hey listen remember I told you remember I told you I talked to Pickens right? Remember I told you? Yeah. I guarantee you don't have no problem this year. I hope not. But I guarantee you wait listen to me you

trust me you know I have from from Pick even if he doesn't get a no problem this year. I hope not. But like, listen to me, trust me, he ain't gonna have from PIC. Even if he doesn't get a contract extension this year, after he plays this year out with no issues, watch where he get next year. Mm-hmm. Yeah, he gonna be all right. It's money time now, ain't no time to play with your bag. You worked too hard to get to the point you at now.

You know, you've had your ups and downs so far early in your career. We've had a conversation and with great understanding, they're not going to give you too many chances, but there are too many opportunities for people that are waiting right behind you. You can't, you can't, you can't blow the chance because you only don't, you only don't get so many opportunities, but he's going to be all right. He won't get his money.

He might not get it this year. You know, this, this would be a somewhat of a trial year to see if you can for one, you know Do the things the right way not be a distraction be on time You know and show up week in and week out with a positive mindset and contribute hard all the time And get the job done. Then you'll be rewarded on the back end and get the job done, then you'll be rewarded on the back end. I mean, he can resume.

Watt's gonna want, hey, like, hold on, bro. Man, y'all see what all these guys got? Make it. Wait, who? TJ Watt. Oh. Oh. Oh, yeah. Hold on, TJ Watt in top three is his position now, and getting paid. He got no guarantee,

he probably got the, where's TJ Watt? He probably got no guaranteed money on it. Not no more? No, not no more. And what happens when guys don't have guaranteed money? They start requesting phantom trades. See, that was the quickest way to get some money, old chump. Yeah.

Mm-hmm. I'm leaving. Okay, babe, I'ma do right. Yeah, it worked for Miles Garret, didn't it? Yeah. But I think he meant that though. He meant that. He was dead serious.

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