Club Shay Shay - Nightcap - Hour 1: Eagles dominant, Cam Newton upset, Goodell wants to expand

Episode Date: November 15, 2024

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson react to Jalen Hurts, Saquon Barkley and the Philadelphia Eagles improving to 8-2 after they defeat Jayden Daniels and the Washington Commanders on Thursday Night Football. Later, Unc and Ocho empathize with Cam Newton after he said he felt erased and forgotten by the Carolina Panthers organization, NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell wants to expand the regular season to 18 games and much more!03:50 - Show start04:14 - Intro05:50 - Eagles v Commanders18:30 - NFL What-If Standing27:10 - Lamar’s struggles with Steelers42:30 - Jets interim head coach45:20 - Cam Newton believes he has been erased by Panthers58:46 - Goddell wants to increase season to 18 games1:02:30 - Coach Prime will privately intervene if wrong team drafts Shedeur1:07:30 - Bryce Underwood not tempted by Michigan(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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He had a 26 carries, a buck 46, two TDs, ran one down to the one yard line and I think Jalen Hurts ran that one in um so the Eagles have now won six straight games expand their lead to one and a half games because uh the Eagles haven't had their bye week yet if I'm not mistaken and so uh they have a one and a half game lead because they beat them head to head but they have a two game lead well one game lead because it's eight and two to seven and four But the Eagles look really good once they got it rolling Eagles did Uh, the Washington did a great job in the first three quarters or Joe keep them out of end zone

Making them set make them kick try to kick field goals. They missed a couple of those but tonight I thought Washington and Washington the Eagles defensive line did a great job pressuring Daniels and it got him off kilter. This was the worst game of all the games that I've seen him play since he's been a pro Ocho. This was by far his worst game. Skipping balls, the pressure got to him and it took him out of his ball game. What'd you see? I mean, most definitely, most definitely. I'm kind of upset obviously to take some of the pressure off of him. I would like a little bit more efficiency in the running game. I'm not sure what the offensive coordinator is, and I need Terry

McLauren to to open his mouth. Cliff Kingsbury is offensive coordinator. OK, I need I need to have him. Glarn, he got to say something. He's too much of a nice guy, a player of his caliber to go through a game like that and have a goddamn cardio. He ran the goddamn Boston Marathon out there tonight. He ran the Boston Marathon out there tonight.

I know he had a young, a young working QAn. I don't want to pronounce his name the wrong way. He's really good. QAn Mitchell. Did I say that right? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Hey, listen, he's the real deal, but you do not allow a team to dictate You being able to get the ball to your best weapon offensively I think I think he could have helped tonight obviously the first three quarters of the game the commanders were I

Don't want to say control it because it was it was somewhat of a boring game at the beginning obviously They did do a good job of control the old show Yeah, I thought they did a great job a great job But by the time they got to maybe the third quarter, maybe around the fifth minute, third quarter, the Eagles took over. Once Eagles took over at that point, I mean, it was they had, they had their way. Q-Yan Mitchell. It was Q-Yan.

Q-Yan. Q-Yan. Yeah. Hey, I'm not sure if young bull, young bull gonna see this, but, but you the real deal, boy. You the the real deal I think the Eagles defense at this point they have what 11 take takeaways in the last six games if I'm not but I don't know what the fuck big bands yo did I don't I don't know what he did because this is the same team from last year the same defense for last year when the bottom fell out the last ten games of the season and they plan outstanding football, they plan outstanding defense. And I'm not sure what the difference is in last year and this year, but man,

they look completely different defensively. And if they keep this up, they keep this up. Listen, we might see them boys in new Orleans now. Those, those first round D linemen are starting to play like first round D linemen. Jaylen Carter and Jordan and sweat and the Dean, who's a linebacker. They're starting to play like high round draft picks like they should be played. Hold on. Well, you see that young book, Reed Blankenship.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He's good. What was other one? Cooper Cooper Cooper, the Jean. Jean. Yeah, man. I don't know. I listen. I don't know where they got them from. Jean. Yeah, man. I don't know. I listen. I don't know where they got them from. But the boys, man. Yeah, I like Blankenship.

I like like I like I like Blankenship a lot. He can. He's good. He's he's not the greatest in coverage, but he's a thumper. But he's where he's supposed to be. So you beat him. You've done something really, really well to get yourself open. And you should be commended for that.

But I think the biggest thing is that I've noticed is that defensive line is taking the game over. Yes. How many 31s, Ocho, do we see the Washington commanders not convert? We saw them on fourth and one. Now, the bobble snap, I don't know if it was supposed to be a handoff to the running back or what it was supposed to be. But that bobble snap through the timing off and now Daniels have to escape the pocket.

They did a great job of stopping them. The Eagles go down the field score. Shlaquon runs it in from about 23 yards out. They come out the next play two plays, they throw a pick and the next thing you know, Shlaquon hits his head on the goalpost again and basically end of the game. You can't do that on the road, turnovers. You can't turn the ball over. But I just thought they did a terrible job on,

hold on, let me see, team staff. Cause I thought the commanders did a terrible job on third down. They had to be awful on third down. Yep, they were three of 12. That's the difference in your ball game. And you have a lot of manageable third downs, Ocho, that you could have converted

and kept yourself on the field, get yourself some rhythm and try to push the ball, try to get that score instead of seven to nothing, maybe get it 14, maybe get it 17. But because you kept getting off the field on third, three of 12, the difference, the Eagles were nine of 16. You see the difference? Now all of a sudden, they staying on the field, Ocho,

giving themselves more opportunities to get points out of drives. Yeah, but listen, again, I just, I hate, I love Terry McLaurin, right? I love him, you know, he's not very voice-less. He's not one that complains or, but a game like tonight, a game like tonight is one of those where you go to your coordinator

You get on the phone you call upstairs you talk to your quarterback and just tell him good What is on the sideline? I'm just saying whoever's talking to the problem the receiver coaches upstairs now Yeah, because everybody's not on the field right whoever's up there man Do make make a call do something because he's not the type to to be a distraction But in a game like tonight there were no big plays on there were no big plays you you something because he's not the type to be a distraction. But in a game like tonight, there were no big plays. There were no big plays. He's your best player on offense. You got to find ways to get in the ball. If they're doubling, put him in motion, put him in position,

condense the space, do something. Just get him in a rhythm to get your offense going. So on some of those even manageable downs, stop running the ball. stop running the ball and find a way to hit the best play on offense. It just, um, it just wasn't a good, a good game for the commanders after the third quarter. Yeah. Um, and because they didn't get any separation, so now all of a sudden the touchdown puts them in the lead like what it did. Uh, it was, you know, the Eagles, what Eagles missed two field goals. And so now all of a sudden they get, they make them feel goals.

And it's a 10, six game and where it should have had, you should have had more separation when you had some momentum. Now they score touchdown. They go for two, try to make it 14, 10 is 12, 10. Okay. You fourth down, you don't convert. You get the Eagles, the ball, they go right back down the field and just score touchdown and guess what you come out, you get ball back you throw a pick and in two plays

Sequin hits his head on the goal post but nice under five five minutes to go in the ball game You got an uphill struggle because you haven't been explosive all night So now you got a nickel and dime your way down the field, which is gonna take time off the clock So what when they scored what did they have? Oh Joe? Like less than two minutes on, by the time they got the ball, less than two minutes. And so when they ended up scoring, it's 30 seconds on the clock.

Yeah. Now you gotta hope, you gotta get the onside kick, and you gotta get a two, score touchdown, and get a two point conversion, all in 30 seconds. You know what, it shouldn't even come to that, honestly. You know what? It shouldn't even come to that. Honestly, it shouldn't have come to that because you had three quarters where you actually were owning the game. I hate, I hate using that word. You were owning the game. You were having your offensively, but you weren't putting up any points.

You weren't scoring no points. Yeah. All the field goals that were missed on those, no, those few goals that were missing. You got the ball, you got to get points. You got to get six, got to get three, got to get something, but you would get nothing. And you got to the third quarter, your defense couldn't hold up no more. They did a good job holding Saquon, you know, the first and second quarter. Yeah, they did a great job of bottling them up. Yeah, it wasn't nothing like that.

But here you can't do it the whole game. You got to put some points on the board. And I'm going gonna keep saying it. You got it. You got to be able to take some shots and get your best officer weapon in the game. Like man, goddamn Terry McLaren ran the goddamn Boston Marathon and like, man,

that wasn't nothing but goddamn cardio. Yeah. Oh, Joe, we talk about this a lot. The momentum. When you got the momentum, how much separation can you put between you and the team? Because the momentum is going to swing. The likelihood of a team having momentum for the entirety of the game is not very likely to happen.

So when the other team gets the momentum, how much separation have you put between yourself and them, right? You, what the Eagles did when they got the momentum touchdown,down, touchdown, touchdown, boom, game over. Yeah. Yeah. You had the momentum. You had seven points. You got a field goal. Now two scores, a touchdown, touchdown and a field goal ties you. Two touchdowns gives them a lead. You see, you see the difference. That's what I tell when you get the momentum. Hey, look, if I know you go hit me in the head with a hammer and I got first swing I'm trying to knock your head off. Oh, yeah, cuz I already know what you gonna do to me It's kind of like that power slap. Oh Joe, you don't say yeah, you go at first you better lay his ass out

Yeah, because when his turn come up, you gonna lay your ass out So that's the difference when When somebody, when you have the momentum, you better put some distance between you, because if you don't, when they get it, they gonna jet off from you. So yeah, I think the thing is, like I said, Ocho, this was the worst I've seen Jay Daniel plays. And maybe, you know, he was dealing

with some type of injury. Maybe he gets an opportunity, they get 10 days. So you get a lot, a lot, a longer break, the typical week, you know, week. You got, you know what, three extra days. So you, Thursday you get Friday, Saturday, Sunday. So you got three days and then the next week, I don't know if they have a bar. Excuse me. When did the, uh, uh, when is the buy?

When is the, uh, the the the commander's by. OK, oh, thanks. Next on the following Sunday. Probably next Monday, play a Monday night. When did the, when did the next game? Okay. Today is the 14th Sunday. So they played the following Sunday, week from Sunday.

Okay. Yeah. So yeah. Um, but look, you go back and you look at some things, Ocho, you look at like, hey guys, we have an opportunity in this game. We just get, you got, Ocho, you go on the road and you go three or 12 on third downs.

Yeah. You can't, you can't win a ball game like that. No, and you was in it late into the third quarter. You were in this ball game. As a matter of fact, you were winning this ball game. You weren't in it. You were winning it. Yeah. And you know, the third down conversion, like I said, they have some.

They have some third and very manageable, because that's all you could really hope for when you're on the road. Oh Joe, if I can keep it third one to three, you know, five yards or less. And you love it. Yeah. Because now I can run it. I can throw it. You start getting 39, 38, 30, 12. They got the ball. Everybody know and their mama know you're going to throw the ball,

but give the Eagles credit after, you know, struggling a little bit early in the season, they kind of picked it up. They're playing extremely well right now. I think they won what six in a row, eight and two form one at home. As they take a command lead in the NFC East with a great performance tonight. Saquon has been Saquon all year. I think it's universal. The two best backs in football right now. Yeah.

King Henry and Saquon they're playing extremely well. Um, I think Saquon took over the lead, uh, as far as rush with that one 46 performance, um, we're going to see what, uh, King Henry can do play the very tough rush defense and the Pittsburgh Steelers. I wouldn't be surprised that after Sunday, St. Juan is still in the league as far as rush yards. And that but that's what I'm saying, I'll tell you when when you gave him when you only give him 11 carries, you only give him a small amount of carries, but you end up losing a

game in Cleveland. But that'll be something we could discuss it later. But anytime something interesting went viral today the NFL what if standing? if all of the one-position games were flipped Cincinnati Bengals would be number one to be eight and two the Broncos also would be eight and two the Jacksonville would be seven and Three Buffalo would be six and four the Chargers would be seven and two Baltimore would be six and four Steelers Chargers would be seven and two. Baltimore would be six and four. Steelers five and four, so forth and so on. Dang, Ocho?

Yes, sir. Why y'all can't win no one possession games, man? Yeah, man, that's what it come down to. That's all it come down to. Sometimes it come down to one possession. And the funny thing about it, I think for those that, I don't wanna call those that are in the chat casual fans. I know the Eagles did not lose to the Cleveland Browns.

I'm talking about the Baltimore Ravens, King Henry. Guys, will y'all listen? Y'all too, I think y'all tune into some of these shows just so y'all can say, oh, you made a mistake. Oh Joe, that ain't what he said. Listen. Yeah. Listen.

Yeah. Listen. Baltimore Ravens. Yeah. Listen. Baltimore Ravens lost to the Cleveland Browns. Ocho and I talked about them not giving King Henry enough carries. He only had 11, yeah. No, he had 16. But he was averaging six yards a carry,

or what he averaged. He averaged like, he'd average like a, no, he averaged four and a half yards a carry. Right. But I'm saying, come on, goddamn, listen. Yeah, no, he has average four and a half yards of care. Right. But I'm saying, come on guys, damn, listen. Yeah, shit, listen, what school y'all went to? Shit. Hey, but listen, funny thing about it,

you gotta think, how many plays you run in the game? What, 60, 67? The average is about somewhere between 60 and 65, give or take, you know, you get some penalties. They call the play Ocho, and it doesn't really count because you got a pill to Be but somewhere 60 to 65 if you really cooking you might get as many as 70 to 75 Let's say 70 75 if you're not cooking as much sick you to 65 and the other at all those plays

One to three of those plays make the difference in the game. Yes one to three of those plays making their game That's how important it is. That's how it comes down to that one possession making a difference. And you actually have a winning record and you not. Eagles had 70 plays watching them had 63. You see 60 to 65. You cook a little bit, Ocho. You get many 70, 75.

Make it the most of the opportunities you do. Go ahead, Ocho. What are you going to say? Now I'm going to say it all comes. Make it the most of the opportunities. You don't go ahead. I'll tell you what you say. Now I'm going to say it all come down to making the most of the opportunities, making the most of those plays that you do have. Yes. And, and Ocho is a situation where when that play happens, because all plays aren't created equal, all penalties aren't created equal. That's up.

You create a penalty and you give a team a first down when you're trying to get the ball back. That's different than you committing a penalty in the first quarter or the second quarter. So all plays are like, well, no, no, no, all plays aren't created equal. Timing is everything. Hey there, it's Michael Lewis, author of Going Infinite, Moneyball, The Blind Side, and Liar's Poker.

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area of the field, you get a penalty, now you put them in field goal range. That's the difference. And when you're not going to get an opportunity to get the ball back to do something about it. So all plays, you're absolutely right. It comes down to a handful of plays every game and the team that executes the best in those situations. And that's why what it looks as bad as we as Patrick Mahomes and Patrick Mahomes doesn't look like Patrick Mahomes.

And what we mean by that, Ocho, we know at this point in time, he's normally in the top three as far as touchdown passes. He's not there now. I think he has 12 touchdowns, eight interceptions. That's not Patrick Mahal. But in the one possession game, when he needs to be Patrick Mahal that we all know and love, he's that guy every time. Let me let me let me let me say one thing. he needs to be passing my home that we all know and love. He's that guy. Every time.

Let me, let me, let me, let me say one thing real quick. If we have an Eagle Eagles fans, I want you to understand how special young bull is, man. Keon Mitchell, real quick. I just want to go from week one to week 11, who he's covered in the number of yards and catches each player's head. Week one against the Packers, Keon Mitchell,

whoever the number one receiver is, one reception six yards. Drake London, one reception five yards. Week three, Chris Olave, two reception 23 yards. Mike Evans, two receptions 19 yards. Week six, Amari Cooper, one reception 10 yards. Week seven, Malik Neighbors, one reception nine yards. My own, Bangal's own, legendary Jamar Chase, 10 yards, week seven Malik neighbors, one reception, nine yards.

My own, Bengal's own, legendary Jamar Chase, two catches with 19 yards against the Jaguars, whoever the number one is, had one catch for 11 yards. Week 10 against City Lamb, two catches for 14 yards. Week 11, Terry McLaurin, zero receptions for zero yards. Keon Mitchell, boy, if you've seen this, boy, you're the real deal, boy. And you're lucky I'm not playing no more. But I salute you for what you're doing. This is the legendary one for a rookie, boy. But yeah, he's playing really good for a guy. What is he, a rookie, second year player? Yeah, man, he a rookie, boy. Young boy's a rookie, man. Shit, man. Hey, when I see stuff like that,

that make me want to get out there. That make me want to get out. Man, what you trying to do? No, it makes me want to do get better at my job so I can have something to do right here, right here. Yeah, I feel you. But when you see somebody putting up them kind of numbers against some of the best today's game, I want to know what you're going to do

against me. I know you had your turn. You let the billboard have it. It's raining out there. It's cold out there. They're hitting out there. You ain't fall. When the last time you fell on the ground?

Yesterday. Yesterday. But see, listen, this is how I feel. When I see stuff like this, right. And I have an appreciation for superior DB play. This is superior DB play. We witnessed it from young bull, right? So I like I'm thinking about myself and my crime. So I want to see how you know, he would match up against me

So I just I don't know it's a hypothetical It's just something that I always do I insert myself in today's game in today's era Just wondering how it would be if I was playing in this past happy era Yeah, I think I think it's natural. I think the quarterbacks of yesterday, Danny and John and Montana and Young and all those guys think about, man, if we could play in this area era where they couldn't attack the quarterback like they could when we play, like they have those rules where they protect the receivers like they don't

didn't have when we played in our era, the incidental contact, all that other stuff. Sure, it's just natural to see, man, I wonder what my numbers could have been. I don't know what my numbers could have been, but I know they'd been better than what I ended with. I don't know what they would have ended with, but I know they'd have been better than what I had. They most definitely would have been better. I do know that. Yeah, absolutely. Hey, Chad, if any of y'all know Keon Mitchell If you know his Instagram's if you know his Twitter, please let him know in the offseason I would like to get some one-on-ones just to see what I want to see what that work like You feel me and that that's pretty much it

Lamar says he can't explain his one of three record versus the Steelers heading into Sunday's road showdown against the Steelers Lamar was asked Why he struggles against the Pittsburgh more than any other team. I don't know what it is man. Last year we were supposed to huh? Defense. Last year but he's a two-time MVP. Yeah but you're going against the Steelers defense. I'm not calling this goddamn steel curtain but they play extremely they play defense extremely well. Not only that, this is, this is a division of the opponent. Yeah. Every time you play a division opponent, they know all your tendencies. They know what's coming.

So why he has such a sense against Cincinnati. Don't do that. The bagels you ain't had to do that. He's one in three against the Steelers. He's 17 to five against everybody else. Yeah. You, you ain't had to do that though. You ain't had to bring up the bangles.

You didn't have to take no shot. Cause we talked about it. We talked about it. I ain't taking no shots. You took a shot. The reporter asked him, why does he struggle against that team more so than any other team in the league?

I told you, I told you the defense, the defense. The difference is, and you just said it just now, that the Steelers defense is very, very good. They're very, very good. Now the bangles defense, the difference is, and you just said it just now, the Steelers defense is very, very good. They are very, very good. Now the Bangalore defense, you know, I don't mean no disrespect. We are not what we should be to be able to compete with the Ravens offensively and Lamar Jackson, that goddamn running game. That that's, that's the answer.

Now what team has the personnel to deal with Lamar Jackson and goddamn King Henry, the goddamn Steelers. Yeah. I think Highsmith is out, but you got TJ Y. Nailed a deal with Lamar Jackson and God damn King Henry. The God damn Steelers. Yeah. I think Highsmith is out, but you got TJ White. You know, you have a solid, you have a solid mid-level game. God damn Joey Porter Jr. playing God damn good football.

Man, shit, man. What more can you ask for? And then you got Mike Tomlin, the God damn genius over there. He said, I don't know what it is, man. Last year we were supposed to beat them, but things just didn't go our way. The football gods weren't on our side, but it's a whole other year. It's a new year and I'm looking forward to this game.

Lamar is winning three against the Steelers. He's 17 and five against the other AFC North teams. Pittsburgh is the only team against which he's thrown more interceptions, seven, than he has touchdown passes, four. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

I mean, I think things, things might change. I think, I think obviously out of, out of all the games are slated for Sunday, this might be the most interesting, the most interesting in the best game of the outside of the bills in Kansas city, outside of the bills in Kansas city. This might be the best game. Well, look, I think people are looking forward to this. Um, this game is a best game. Well, look, I think people are looking forward to this. This game is a rivalry game. Yeah. This is an opportunity to like for the division.

I think the division lead will be on the line with this one. And so the Ravens would have the advantage because they beat the Steelers head to head. Obviously, the bills, we've seen these teams play so many times in the playoffs. I think that Kansas City is three-0 against them in the playoffs, but I think they've only won one regular season game against the Bills. And so that's the only thing that matters. The Bills in the regular season are 3-1 against the Chiefs. Yeah, but 0-3 in the postseason. That's the only thing that Patrick Mahalba cares about. Yeah.

If you look at Brady, there are a lot of guys that have winning records against Brady. Well, not a lot of guys, because Brady didn't lose. No time. Regular season, post season, pre-season. That joke about, I don't think we're gonna ever see anything like that. Like, not the amount of games that he played in relative to wins and losses, Ocho,

I don't think we're gonna see that again. I don't, I honestly don't. I mean, you got to think about it. The man had what they wanted a vision down there every year, except the year he got hurt. So we can't hold that against him. But when he played, they wanted the vision and they're going to win normally about 11 games, even on a bad year, good year, they go win 14 a bad year. They're going to win 11.

Yeah. And so he did that for them to 20 years or my bad for 23 years. Yeah. Let us. Yeah. I don't think we're going to see, we're not going to see that again. It's like, you know, guys in baseball, when they won five guys, pictures one, I don't know if we're going to see another 300 game winner in baseball.

Oh boy. I know we ain't seeing no 400. That's, you know, what Walter Johnson did and Sandy Colfax, you're not seeing that guys winning 353 game that you're not going to see that anymore. Guys winning 200. I think Brady was damn near one 300 game. Ain't no NFL player winning 300 games. Don't you?

It ain't, it ain't going to happen, but, uh, I'm glad I got an opportunity to see it. I'm glad I'm old enough to see some of the great, um, I remember when Montana came into the league and got an opportunity to play when he was in the league and play with Elway and Marino and, and, Steve Young and a lot of these quarterbacks, but to see Peyton and, and, and, hey, I was in the league when, when he was my Pro Bowl quarterback in 2001. Peyton Manning, Steve McNair. But it was it's always great to like you have a greater appreciation when you see the what the game was and where it is and how it progressed and to see the young

guns come in. So it's always great. I'm glad you say that. I'm glad you just said that. And I talk about this all the time. I have a group chat with most of the Bangles players that played with me in that 2005 season. TJ, you know, Sean, Big Willie, Corey Dillon, Peter War. And we talk about where the game is today and how the game was when we played. And most of them taking into consideration that the game was a little bit more difficult during our era and the air before us as opposed to how it is now and today's era football is they use the word for mental lack of better terms a little a little watered down yeah I

don't know it's not nearly as physical Joe we know that we understand and the thing is we understand why okay we understand the trauma the head trauma the repeated trauma and they're trying to make the game as safe as they possibly can. And I think we all want that. I know fans like, put flags on them, but guys, the league is not trying to get sued for billions and billions of dollars. You keep getting sued, your company goes bankrupt.

But this is what we need to say. This is what we need to say. We're trying to make the game safer, but on the backhand, we're just trying to make sure we can protect our ass so we don't get sued 10 years. Yeah, but on the back hand, we're just trying to make sure we can protect our ass so we don't get sued. Yeah. But everybody knows, yes.

But you know that. You, you, you, every, every, everybody knows that. But in the proc, look, it's an inherently dangerous game. Yeah. Oh yeah. It's an inherently dangerous game. We're trying to make the game as safe as possible, but in the process of making it safer,

the physicality, a lot of the physicality has been legislated out of the game. Yeah. I got no problem. I don't have a problem with it. I'm glad it wasn't there when I was there because the kickoff like that. How am I going to show you what I for that?

If I don't come down there and bust somebody ass, I'll be, Oh, sure that the standard stealing, let the guy catch the ball. And then I take off. Now I need to get ahead of Steve and run that in and try to peel somebody's cap. I'm trying to, chill that. Just stand and steal and let the guy catch the ball. And then I take off. Nah, I need to get ahead of Steve. And run down there and try to peel somebody's cap. I'm trying to split your dome. OK, yeah, split his dome up, huh? Man, stop.

I'm talking about the house. You got me hyped. You know, I used to be, I was the wedge buster. My rookie, yeah. You ain't no wedge buster. You too little. You ain't got no bricks in your back pocket. Don't bust the wedge.

Ask Marvin. If you see Marvin. I was a wedge buster. No, because back then you do realize they could have a four man. They can have a three and a four man wedge. Yeah. And they used to they used to link arms. Yes. Yeah. You are the wedge buster. We played we played the ravens, right? My rookie year. We played the ravens, right? I was the wedge buster.

I went down and Adelius Thomas. Remember Adelius Thomas? Yeah, I know AD. Yeah. And he, they had Adelius Thomas in the wedge. Man, I ran right through him. I don't know about that. I'm trying to crack his face mask. We're gonna have to, uh, uh, we're gonna have to find some footage of you busting being in the way. I can get the footage for you at NFL films. You have to get, you have to get the footage for you at NFL Films. I can get it for you. You have to get that footage, because that wedge, I wanted no parts of the wedge. Let me play my three. Let me get on down there and take the numbers. Ain't nothing coming up the numbers.

I'm built different, huh? I was a savage on the field. You wasn't built like me, man. You ain't got no bricks in your back pocket. It ain't about the bricks. I got this right here. I got this right here. Everybody got this. Oh Joe, why you think they took the wedge out? Because it didn't matter how much hard if you think about it, you one man, let's just

say you 250 and they got a thousand pounds. What you gonna do with that? But see, you got to be, listen, physics, baby, physics. If it's four men, right? Yeah. Out of the four that's right there, you gotta be, listen, physics, baby, physics. If it's four men, right? Yeah. Out of the four that's right there,

there's always a weak link. You always pick on the weak link. If you getting jumped, if you getting jumped, you don't try to fight the swole, dude. You pick on the weak link and you swing on his ass first to set the tone. You do realize that. That's what I used to do with the wedge.

The weak link was the Darius Thomas. So I ran through him to let the rest of the motherfuckers know I ain't the one, not the Darius. Guys, normally the wedge consisted of two D linemen and an offensive lineman or two offensive linemen and a defensive lineman. Yeah, like man, that shit don't scare me. I don't care what position you play.

You know what time it is when I'm on the field though. Yeah, I know. Think about it,. Oh Joe how you ran in the rate and he spattered you and he wasn't looking When the Joker looking at you do that don't do that Oh, that's not the whole world saw my shoe. Let me ship. I tripped over my goddamn shoelace now I don't care if you let their barefooted Come on, man. Meanwhile, another day, another shocking story coming out of commander's stadium. Russell Wilson found a slithering surprise

in his locker room before the team, in the locker room before the team game against the commanders last Sunday. In the visiting locker room, the Steelers found a snake coming out of the bottom of Russ locker before the game and had to deal with it. Eventually someone came in and handle it, removing the snake from the locker room. Cam Hayward said, before the game, I go out and warm up, come back in.

And I'm like, right. Everybody was like a little bit shocked when I came in and I was like, what's going on? There's a snake in our locker room, a snake. And it was coming from the bottom of Russ' locker. Everybody was thrown for a loop, a snake in our locker room. Hey, uh, listen, we talk about, you know, at the stadium, you know, Pines field. I'm thinking about the surroundings.

Um, no, that was in the commander's stadium. Oh, the commander's. Okay. Somebody did that shit on purpose. Somebody did on purpose. It's just another day in the Northwest Stadium, which is one of the NFL's worst commanders owner, Josh Harris said the team hopes to have a new stadium by 2030, but the location of the new stadium is unknown. I think that we're trying to get one in Virginia.

I think they were trying to go to the Virginia area. How far is that? Richmond is about, I think, 30, 40 miles. Oh, that's bad. That's bad. I mean, the fans might complain. Because I think this is the land. I've been missing land over the course of this. Where is this?

How far is Richmond from? Yeah. Cause I think if I'm not, yeah, if I'm not mistaken, Ocho, I know they have training camp. I'm not mistaken in Richmond. I know they were, they were trying to, uh, Oh, RFK and then the stadium that they build now, it was named after, I think the other one, I forgot who owned it before. Uh, Daniel Snyder purchased that. Uh, but I think it was going to try to go to Northern Virginia or something. I'm not,

I'm not really sure, but I know there was, you know, I mean, where you gonna get land in D C. Right. Right. I mean, that ain't that ain't bad. That ain't bad. Everybody. So they moved it in Ashburn now. OK. They were they were in Richmond, right? Yeah, they moved to Ashburn. Their new training facility is in Ashburn just opened this year.

And so, you know, they're trying to get trying to get a new facility. A lot of a lot used to be they pass a sales tax when they charge hotels XYZ but a lot of the fans like nah we ain't taxing no more y'all got billions of billions dollar bill y'all damn stadium we ain't pay we put we put in the bill no more so that's why he's like 20 30 which is what six years from now which is what, six years from now? Yeah, it's not called FedEx Field. It's not, I'm sorry.

I know where you look, I get it. I remember we, oh, RFK, we played at RFK, Ocho. That was back in the 90s. And then FedEx Field, who owned it? What was the guy's name? Nah, Jack K. Cook, rest his soul. He owned it way back then. Right.

Who did they decide to buy it from? I forget the guy's name. He had some sons that ended up selling it. They bought it from Jack K Cook? Okay. Okay. Okay. But look, I think the commanders are in great hands now. Josh Harris and his team, they got the money.

They're gonna make the, you know, they just need to get that stint of Daniel Snyder up out of there. It was a cesspool. Now you got professionals running in the organization. You know, magic is a part of that. And so I'm excited to see what the commanders, what the future holds for this team. And I'm excited.

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We know how to tackle. We know how to tackle. We got to make the tackles. That's, that's really it. We don't really need no presentation. I know where he's coming from. Uh, when did, uh, when did it, but us as professional athletes, we gotta be able to make tackles, me included. Yeah. You had McBride stop, you swung him around. He got loose. He hurt another guy and went for another five, six yards. Go ahead. But one McBride doesn't get the credit he deserves. McBride might be top three tight end in NFL right now.

Oh he balling his ass off. That nobody's talking about. He might be top three. No disrespect to Kelsey, no disrespect to Kittles, no disrespect to Mark Andrews, but he might be the best Titan in NFL Hey them boy man, listen man, you got Ingram in Jacksonville you got likely who's on the bench who's you know He's not really on the bench. But uh Yeah, yeah, yeah

Look Oh Joe and I was I did a Marsha Lynch podcast today and we're talking about the title position Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They got they got look, oh Joe. And I was I did a Marshall Lynch podcast today and we're talking about a tidy imposition. I think the thing is now is the only difference between me. The 90s, when I when I first got into the league and now there's more guys to do it with. Yes, sir. Back then, there was only a handful of guys that can go get your thought. You are myself being coached. Gonzo, Tony Gonzalez came in at like 96, 90. So basically like 99. He kind of got found his footing and did that. But like you mentioned, you mentioned the guys, you mentioned McBride, you mentioned, mentioned Kelsey,

you mentioned killer, you mentioned Laporta, you'll Hawkinson, uh, Evan Ingram, uh, Mark Andrews, uh, Friar move. I mean, they got got a Goddard they guys now is just so many of them. They're so big and they're so athletic. I don't want to leave out Knox and Kincaid as well. Oh, Dawson Knox. Yeah, I don't want to leave them boys out now. They nice.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I like them. That goddamn McBride, man. I think because he's so far out west, maybe because he plays for Arizona, he needs to get the credit he deserves as a, the other team that, that we always happen to see on TV constantly, but he makes, he making a name for himself.

Yeah. I like, I like, I like that. Um, you know, they Tampa, I like K. Dot and I've always liked K. Dot ever since he was a rookie. Uh, but the guys, the guys, the guys are really good now. Ocho. Guys can make plays. Guys are athletic. They're big. All the guys, 6'3 to 6'5, somewhere around 2'45, 2'50, 2'55. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So I love where the hell we left out in Joku.

In Joku? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I forgot it. But I love to see where the position is heading. Cam Noon believes he's been erased and forgotten by the Panthers. I'm like, damn, I. Yeah, but I love to see where the position is heading. Cam Noon believes he's been erased and forgotten by the Panthers. I'm like, damn, I gave this city everything. He says he's not even in any pictures of him

inside the stadium. Damn, they ain't got no pictures of him at all. That's what he said. I don't know, I haven't been to the stadium since I've played in it. I think I've been to the Panthers stadium maybe once. But I mean, it's true for everything that he has done for that team. Obviously getting them to a Super Bowl, him being an MVP at one point as well.

I'm not sure we are statistically when it comes to the quarterbacks that have played for the Panthers organization. But for what he has done and the legend that he is, I mean, I would think you would have some type of memorabilia, pictures, um, shit, hell, a goddamn statue. Uh, I think he also belongs in the hall of fame. I would think Cam is the hall of fame quarterback as well. I'm not sure if there was any type of riff with him and the owner, whoever. Obviously Dave Tepper, Dave Tepper is the owner.

I'm not sure if there was any bad blood when Cam might've left. Obviously, Dave Tepper, Dave Tepper is the owner. I'm not sure if there was any bad blood when Cam might have left. But to me, me personally watching Cam and what he's done throughout his career, Chad, I don't know how you guys feel about it, but I think he should be remembered as a legend that he is. And what he had done for that organization, chat, what are your thoughts? Because uncle left. So it's just, it's just me and you guys right now.

What'd you think? Should Cam what? Um, ring of honor name, name on the stadium, maybe saying a statue outside that might be a little too much, uh, because he wasn't able to win, you know, win them a championship. But when Cam has done his resume speaks for itself and, um, how he galvanized that, that, that, that stadium, uh, the kids, the fans, uh, that community, hell and that goddamn team for that matter.

What y'all think? Okay, okay, okay, okay, the chat agree with me. Yeah, yeah, the motherfucking chat agree with me. I love y'all chat. That's the chat agree with me. Yeah. Yeah, the motherfucking chat agree with me. I love y'all chat That's what i'm talking about Yeah Yeah Oh Joe we lost connect you got me oh Joe you got me i'm right here

Okay. Yeah, we had i had lost connection. Hey, let's talk about yeah. Look Oh Joe, uh, oh Joe cam is one of the two best players, one of the three best players, four best players. So if you like Smitty, you like Julius Peppers, you like Luke Keighley, Cam Newton, Sam Mills, those are your five best players. I don't care to rank them. You can rank them wherever you want to. Right. But those are your five best players.

And you talk about a franchise that's 30 years of age. So therefore, I believe your five best players, they should always have a montage of where when you walk into the stadium, when you walk into the facility, those five players should be always present. Yeah. Yeah. And most definitely your quarterback, most definitely your quarterback. Most definitely your quarterback. So, so like I said, you're playing-

That's six players, we got McCaffrey. Well, I just don't think he played long enough. Yeah, he's one of the best players. You put it, but- You forgot Thomas Davis. Julius Peppers. Yeah, in the Hall of Fame. Luke Keighley is going to the Hall of Fame.

Yeah, these Smith is going to be in the Hall of Fame. Yeah, Cam and Sam Mills. Sam, I think Sam Mills is in the Pro Football Hall of Fame. OK, so I believe those are your five best players. Right. In Carolina football in the very short history of the Carolina Panthers. Now you can rank them. You can say Cam is this one or Julius Peppers or Keighley or Smitty. Whatever the case may be. Because all those guys played it, you know, Keighley retired early because he, the trauma. He's like, now I'm done with this. I want to be, you know, hey, I want to be a normal functioning human as I start to get into my mid 30s 40s so forth and so on

We know what that feels We know we know what that feels we know what Smitty was but cam Cam cam kind of put him on the map man. Yeah. Yeah, I'm careful. Cam was him. Mm-hmm Cam was him Smitty look Smitty Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And it was, oh, they did. They did a number, man. Hey, um, it, it, like I said, I, I look, I don't know the history. I don't know what temporary is. I don't know why. Hey, look, I remember when, when, uh, Josh McDaniel, when he went back to Denver, he took everything down. He took everybody, everybody, anybody, all the fans. My pictures, L-Wave, T.D., he take all of it now. In the facility.

Yeah! What the hell? We starting over, it's a new day, bruh stop. Get your ass up out of here. Talk about a new day. We legends. Yeah. What the hell you talking about?

Just cause you take the pictures down, they not gonna forget us. No, never that Yeah, hey one, please Yeah pussy I don't know what I don't know what you thought. They brought you do you understand what John Elway means in that building? Do you understand what to TD myself, got, hey bro. And a lot of- Hold on, not just in the building, outside the building.

Yes! And a lot of people, and a lot of people, what worked that, that worked with us in those Super Bowl eras, they were still there. Yeah. They're like, what are you hoping to accomplish? That'll be like somebody coming in and they taking down Gronk's pictures, they taking down Brady's pictures, or you go to the Steelers and ain't no Bradshaw in the building.

Ain't no mean yo, ain't no Franco, ain't no Hal Lambert, Mayon Blunt. What? Yeah. Swans, come on, bro. Tripping, man. You can try to start a new path. Okay, Yeah. Swans. Come on, bro. Tripping, man. You can you can try to start a new path. OK, granted, granted, I understand. But there are certain guys in a building that they ain't going nowhere.

They're going to always be the people going to remember them forever because of what they accomplished. Legacy being cemented is what that means. Legacy being cemented. Bro, I did. Oh. Bro, I didn't, I, Ocho, I didn't know. Obviously I had people that was working there that's like, man, shut up, I hate it here.

I'm like, what the heck y'all? Was that bad? They said he was awful. He was awful. Because he didn't know how to talk to people. All he knew how to do was yell, scream, and curse. Oh, he wanted to know? Yes. Because know how to do a scream and curse. Oh, you want it? Oh, yes Because he tried to do everything like coach Belichick. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah a big bill ain't play that shit

But but bill had to resume to pull that shit off. Yes. Yes. There's a reason why not a whole lot of coach Belichick Disciples aren't successful. You know why because they don't have their own personality They try to do everything like him because he suppressed this personality for so long Mm-hmm, they adopted he is yeah, that's not them Not at all not not at all. So But I feel bad feel bad for camp. I feel bad for camp now I don't know how he got treated when he went back I know the love and adoration that we get when we go back to the, uh, the building.

Oh yeah. Um, we go to the facility or we go to the arena. We, we're given love and respect. So I don't know how cam was treated. If he went to the facility, I don't know how many of those people were there, but they know who cam knew Nia's they know what he means to that organization. But you know, every. How do you, how do you, how do you treat him when you go back to Denver?

Really? Come on, Shane, talk to me. Hey, but listen, when I go to system. How do they treat me when I go back to Denver? You hear me? Oh, I'm gonna get anything. There's not anything. If I cost the aid, I need some shoulder pads.

I'm gonna have shoulder pads in two days. Oh yeah, oh yeah. Listen, listen. When I go back to Cincinnati, boy, I would never want for nothing in that city. You hear me? No. I would never want for nothing in that city.

Mike Brown Katie Troy this I was they like me. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I like I like that. I like that. I like that That's my lock. That's my name plate Thirty three thirty two five thousand two hundred eighty feet above sea level. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, these are the logos. I think they stick stickers. Yeah, I see you, okay. Nah, they, hey, bro. Look, and I've only met the, uh, uh, the Walton

Penner family that runs the Broncos. Um, Mr. Bowling, uh, his, his, his, his estate ended up selling it. But, uh, when I was, when I would go back, uh, prior to Mr. Bowling, uh, he had, uh, dementia and stuff and he, he went away and, uh, and stuff and he went away and, uh, but someone else ran it for him. But, uh, Ellis, um, ran it, but they were great to me. Mr. Mr.

B told me, said, look, I say, well, you know, he's like, you come back anytime you want to say, well, Mr. B I ain't, I ain't got no name plate. I got to use your, your face. That's your ID. Yeah. He said you will never as you never have to worry about anything. Any game you want to come to home or road. Yeah. You my guess.

Yeah. See that. That's that. That's that. That's what you boy. That's why you should be a native. You know, I went to the coach. I went to the Super Bowl. I had four people in a suite that seat 16 and booed. It was me, Ray Crockett, Foots, and I think one other person. Right.

I'm like, what the hell, if I do, we gonna have a whole suite. Hell, I'd have brought about seven, eight more people. Yeah. I had a good day, but. Yeah. Super Bowl in New York. Yeah. It was like four of us in there. Yeah. Oh, Mr. B took Mr. B.

Look, I don't I think it'd be the same thing with the with the Walton Penner family. I don't you know, look, I stay out of the way. I don't bother nobody. I don't really ask for anything occasionally. But I pay for stuff now. If I need tickets, somebody like Asia, you hey, man, can you get me tickets? I call the ticket people. I'll just pay for the ticket. Same thing with the Ravens.

The Ravens are good to me. Hey, Ozzy. I'm good. That's one thing about the Ravens. I mean, some of the fans don't think I like the Ravens, but I know when I go back into that building, I know how they treat me. I know how Steve Bichotti treats me. I know how Ozzy and Eric DeCosta and all those guys. And not a lot of people not there because, you know, they kind of aged out on show.

But I know how they treat me. I know how to what I would I haven't been in a long time, but they know the players. I know how to respect me. And they still got pictures of me up in the building. And I got I got pictures, too. I got pictures too. I got pictures too. Hey, but you know what, you know what I don't do?

What, which is funny is most of the time you would think, you know, um, obviously what you, when you so far removed from the game, uh, but the love is still there. You know, the fans of people in the city in general, I can go anywhere and I don't want for nothing and I could take advantage of going to the games and you know, getting tickets, but I just go to one game a year, that's it. I go to one game a year. I pay for all the tickets now, Ocho. Yeah, anything they need from me, they know I'm there.

They know, and they still allow me to be incorporated, not in just the team, but some of the stuff that they have going on, some engagement with the fans, they still allow me to be a part of that. Man, it's just a good feeling, man. It's just a good feeling to have to get your flowers, to get your flowers when you really have no value anymore

outside of what you did for them back in the day. And the fact that they still remember that and the fans still appreciate that to this day, man, it's a dope feeling. That's all you want. Three things early on that I knew. I wanted my teammates respect. I wanted my coaches trust.

I wanted the fans appreciation. Yeah. Yeah. I tell you what, there's not a fan that ever watched me play in Denver or Baltimore. Thought man, man, he loafing. He bulljabbing. They know I gave it everything.

Every Sunday, every Monday, they know they got the best every every Sunday every Monday. Yeah, they know they got the best out of 84 and 82. Oh yeah. And at the end of the day, that's all. That's that's all the fans want. They want you to know that they pay in their heart of money to see you. And they want you to give it up your all. Oh yeah. You hear that cam. You're gonna get that you can get y'all you can get some goddamn entertainment.

Huh? For sure. You better be ready to laugh. For sure. For sure. NFL commissioner Roger Goodell hopes to expand the regular season to 18 games within the five years. We hope to be at 16 international games within five years. Goodell said today, Goodell confirmed that expanding to 16 international

games will require increasing the regular season to 18 games. We're looking to change our format to 17 in three format or to maybe 18 regular season games to preseason games that will open up more inventory to allow us to play more globally. Okay. I like it. I like it. Listen, with the way the rules are set up right now, with the

way the rules are set up right now and allowing players to recover, they don't practice as much as they as they used to as opposed to when we were playing. They don't have two a days. The nutrition, the facilities, everything has been heightened. Everything is more advanced now. So adding whatever plan it is that he wants to do, I'm all for it. I think the players are also for it because now the more games you add, come on, talk to me, man. At the end of the day, if it makes dollars, it makes sense. And the players understand what comes with that, you know,

and probably you'll probably add another bye week too. Oh yeah, you gotta have two bye weeks. You'd have a loser have to have two bye weeks. So I think- But Ocho, you got to have two by weeks. You'd absolutely have to have two by weeks. So I think. Oh, Joe, you're going to be playing damn good football damn day in St. Paddy's day. Yeah. Yeah. Because if you have to buy weeks, oh, Joe.

Well, no, it all depends. Are we going to so either you move the season up or you push it back? Because if you only go play two preseason games, does that mean you come to camp at the same time and play those two preseason games and now you're playing football in august Or do you put or do you stay on the same schedule you come you come in to camp later play those two preseason games Still start after labor day and now you realize with two by weeks you put a With extra by week now you're playing the second week of February. Now you at the third week.

Yeah. Well, listen, though, those are things that they're going to have to work on. I think from a player standpoint, with the way the rules are, with the practice is a little bit more lenient, a little bit more player friendly. As far as rest is concerned. And I like it is nothing I could is nothing I can say you know from from a negative standpoint that's that's pretty much it I like the thing is though the records though Joe because you add in two games

yeah so now the receiver record the touchdown record of yardage record yeah everything everything should have an asterisk buy it. Have asterisk buy it at this point. Cause I mean, 18 games, Ocho somebody does. I mean, now somebody's really going to get 2000 yards receiving. Yeah. Oh yeah. Yeah.

It's a possibility, but that's the only way, Ocho, you can increase revenue. You've got, because what? I mean, what are you going to do? You've got to have more games. The networks pay for more games. That's the only way you can increase revenue. Whatever else you can do it is by games. I mean, now do you have another playoff team?

Maybe. Maybe. It all makes sense. It all makes sense because it makes money at the end of the day. Hey there, it's Michael Lewis, author of Going Infinite, Moneyball, The Blind Side, and Liar's Poker.

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Oh, Oh Joe, you like that? Yeah. Yeah. Most definitely. Most definitely Archie man, it was able to do it. You know, they're very few. They're very few people that are in positions to be able to make this kind of call. I think it's very important for the growth and maturity and success of Shadur to go to

the right team, go to the right situation. It's very important. It's imperative that he does. And Prime is going to see that when it comes to Travis Hunter. That motherfucking go any goddamn where he's going to flash. Yeah, he can go any goddamn where he can play on all 32 teams. Yeah, he could play on a 30 13. And it ain't even one.

It ain't one. Yeah. And it ain't even one. And he can be successful. But for the quarterback position is very, very, very important. And it's imperative that Prime is there doing this entire journey for him in the transition from college to whatever team he does from college to whatever NFL team he goes to.

Very, very important, very important. Yeah, I like your time. Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey,

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Oh, yeah. You still showed up. He was still box office to see. Yeah. Oh, yeah. quarterback go to the wrong situation. You get hell beat at you. And now all of a sudden, people talk about you a bus. Yeah. You still showed up. He was still box office to see you. Yeah. Oh yeah. Quarterback go to the wrong situation. You get hell beat at you. And now all of a sudden people talk about you a bus. Yeah. Yeah. And a lot of it's not where you go. I mean, look, obviously you want to go high, but I want to go to the right situation.

So that means instead of going one, two, I go three and I go to an ideal situation. Right. With some somebody that has an offensive quarterback, I need an offensive. I need somebody on the office, at least my coordinator. You need to know what the hell he's doing. Even if you give me a defensive minded coach like the like the commanders. But they got to clip Kingsbury, who's very imaginative what you need in today's game. You can't have the arcade scheme because

the game is so much more sophisticated now. Yeah. But also, more importantly, wherever he does go, having a great offensive coordinator, but there's no point in having a great offensive coordinator and having a great quarterback, like you do, are coming out of college, being able to do and have the specific skills that he does have, you have to be sure he has the pieces around him.

I mean, you don't know you got to get the motherfuckers in the building. That's the only way. That's the only way it's going to work. What? Oh Joe, you look, you know, when you go hide, you go into a crappy situation. Yeah. You can't win the super bowl and be picking first. Yeah.

You don't say it. know, like the Lakers won the title and then got James Worth it next year. How is that fair? Yeah, not at all. You ain't gonna have to worry about that in football that ain't happening. I Let's let's let's let's let's take a take. Let's take a look at this right now So right now based on the records right now who would be picking first in it in an NFL? Okay, who would be picking first in an NFL in the draft? OK, who would be second Giants? God damn it. Now, I like I like that. I wonder how Prime would feel about that. Matter of fact, I go I get to Colorado in the morning.

I'm a as Prime myself. Matter of fact, I'm a pretend I'm a reporter. Prime, how do you feel about your door going to the New York Giants? You got Malik neighbors They probably gonna clean house. I'm not sure the ball would probably clean it house. They bought you know, but the question is Forget Malik neighbors who gonna be the coach Who will be the office coordinator? I can tell you gonna be the coach. Let me tell you who I work with him every Wednesday on inside the NFL.

He does have a coach. Belichick. He does. He loved the Mar family. He was the D coordinator there. See, see what I'm talking about. Now that's breaking news. Now that's breaking news. So when Bill Belichick is the is the head coach for the New York Giants and Shador Sander goes second to the New York Giants and Shador Sander goes second to the New York Giants. You heard it here first, Mel Kiefer eat your heart out. That ain't what Mel Kiefer does. Mel Kiefer break down college players

coming into the league. You talking about Adam Schefter. Oh, well, Schefter too. And Lewis Reddick. I said it first. Make sure, hey, chat, make sure I get the credit. That ain't what Sweet Lou does either. Sweet Lou break down game. I'm just naming some get the credit that it was sweet Lou does either

I'm just naming some of the people that I admire. That's all. Okay. Yeah Oh Joe it seems that Bryce Underwood won't be tempted by the massive and I'm Dale in I'll offer from Michigan on Three reported that the Wolverines are prepared to offer the elite quarterback recruit four years Ten and a half million dollars in I'll deal in hopes of flipping his current commitment to LSU. Underwood posted on Instagram stories seemingly confirming he will decline the offer. Oh, he's going to decline the offer to go LSU. So I'm assuming LSU must be paying him a bigger bag than what Michigan is offering. If I was Underwood, I would decline the LSU offer and take my ass to Colorado. How about that? Take them apples.

Man, look here, Ocho. A lot of these kids come from situations, man. Look here. We were talking about last night, 375 changes somebody's life. What the hell is 10.5 going to... Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Most definitely. Most definitely. Most definitely. And I, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Well, definitely.

And I forgot to tell you, most of the people, 98% of the people agree with me that three hundred seventy five thousand dollars is a lot of money. It's life changing money. Oh, Joe. Oh, we don't we don't. We don't got to touch it again. I just want to throw it out there. But see what I think the check missed the point. Right. I didn't say it wasn't a lot of money I say but for that three hundred and seventy five thousand to last you a lifetime

People say well people don't work only make twenty thousand. Yeah, and what do y'all say you're struggling? So imagine you have to spend for your lifetime. I said the lifetime and you cannot work I'm not saying somebody gave me a you can't you can't be saying they can't work now. The man got to have a job. That's what I said. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. You said he can live. You said hey man 375. I can live off 375. Okay. See that that's not fair. You can't you can't take the scenario and make it your own.

Now, he faked his death. He on the run. Oh, Joe. You make it seem like he could just go in there and snap his ID down. Hey, let me get a job. Here's my social security number. Here's my ID from the states. He can't do that. He got to lay low. He's going to have to go find a job that pays him cash only. And they don't give a damn because here's the thing, Ocho, when you spend your money, people are going to wonder why, man, why did you keep coming here in Eastern Europe with American money? If you, if somebody, I guarantee you, you let somebody show up in Miami and they go to the store and every time they showing up with a different currency. Yeah. People get

suspicious, first of all, people know this hell anyway. Mm-hmm. They're like, what the hell is an American living in the middle of Eastern Europe? Yeah, yeah, yeah. All right, I'm gonna do that. But yeah, yes, 375, 375,000 is a lot of money. Yeah. If somebody gave you that, and you were able to get a job,

let's just say you made 20,000, 25,000. Yeah. Good. Now you put 10,000 with that, you're straight. You go. Yeah, good. I'm good. But you think about it, if you make 20,000 a year and you got that, that's three, 75 got to last you a lifetime.

That's only going to last you 19 years. Hey, it's all on your financial discipline, baby. It's all on your financial discipline. You got to make the right decision. Now that's very difficult for some people. You gotta eat. You gotta sleep. You gotta buy clothes.

Yeah, what you gonna be? You gonna be the Beverly Hills Billy. You gonna be Jeffery Boadie. See, that's what I look like right now. Have a rope ride your way for a belt. Oh, shoelace? Yeah. Shit, that's what I look like. You wait for a bell. Shoelace. Yeah.

Yeah, they got it. But let me tell you, I don't know if you know, but insurance company, first of all, they don't want to pay out their money anyway. Right. And they know you can think about it. They already pinpointed that he's somewhere in Eastern Europe. So they already got they already like, hey, they will get that money. Mm hmm. Oh, yeah. You don't scare them to. Oh, they go get that money.

And guess what? Think about all the people. Hey, you know what? FBI, he wanted. And I think I saw that guy. I think he's got to work at the shop. Yeah. So you get what? I'd be the guy that work at the shop. Yeah. And guess what? I'd be like. Somebody go turn his ass in,

I'll show him for 25,000, 50,000. Well, definitely, more definitely. Listen, better than me. I'd be like Leonardo DiCaprio and catch me if you can. Break Abic mail. I'm gonna keep it moving. Yeah, that's it.

But whew, 10.5 million, that's 18 euros. That's life changing money, whew, 10.5 million is an 18 year old, that's life changing money. Yeah, it is, yeah it is. That's more than life changing money. Oh, 10.5 million for, hell yeah. Well, 10.5 million is life changing money for anybody that's not a multi-millionaire. To the average person?

Yeah. Listen, that's way more than enough. Hell. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The volume. Hey there, it's Michael Lewis,

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