Club Shay Shay - Nightcap - Hour 1: Eric Bieniemy to UCLA, Cam Newton gets jumped, should court storming be banned?

Episode Date: February 26, 2024

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson react to Eric Beiniemy getting passed up by the NFL, Cam Newton getting jumped ay a 7-on-7 tournament, and debate whether or not court storming should be banned in the future. 0:00 Introduction05:10 Eric Bieniemy joins UCLA as OC10:15 Ocho talks about EB’s coach style being “very harsh”17:05 Richard Sherman arrested for DUI26:05 Cam Newton involved in brawl35:40 “You never see kids being disrespectful to Peyton or Eli” - Unc42:50 Duke player Kyle Filipowski hurt after players storm court51:30 Unc on why women college basketball players make more money in college than in the WNBA58:40 Ocho says WNBA players need to be paid more01:02:00 Ocho talks about running for president, wants Unc as his VP #Club #VolumeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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He's your favorite number 85, route runner extraordinaire, Bengals legend, pro bowler all pro player ring of honor inductee chad ocho cinco johnson please make sure y'all like make sure you hit that subscribe button thank you so much and please make sure y'all subscribe to the nightcap podcast feed you can listen to nightcap through the club shea podcast feed but we would greatly appreciate it if you subscribe to the nightcap podcast feed thank you guys for selling out shea by laporte but we have it back in stock and they're filling the order so if you order it it should be with you within the week that's what they're telling me and so i'm passing that information on to you so thank you for

selling us out but we are back in we do have it back in stock and we pin the link at the top of the chat. So please make sure you go out. You still have a St. Patty's day. That's right around the corner. Make sure you want to celebrate that. We've also been nominated for NAACP image award for arts, sports, and entertainment outstanding podcast. We've also pinned that link. More questions below, please go and vote for us. Hey, that would be a huge honor. We know that you guys have shown us great love, great support from the beginning

all the way to the end. But this would be a huge honor for Ocho and I and Gil because Gil does on Wednesday with us. That would be a huge honor for us if we were to win. But if we don't, guess what? We're coming back next year and going to try to win it again.

But eventually, we're going to get one of these awards, Ocho. One of these big awards. They can't keep dodging us. Yeah, they can't keep dodging. We're going to get one of them. I'm not sure which one

it's going to be. But when we do get it, we want to make sure to let the people know that we appreciate you. We appreciate all of you for voting for us, allowing us to grow

at such an exponential rate at a very fast pace. And listen, I tell all of you all the time, if you follow me, you know, I tell you I love you every day. So my love and appreciation for all of you, it has no bounds. Ocho, I look at these awards like the lottery. Every time I play the lottery, now they got it not four days a week, you got Fantasy, you got Cash 3, you got Cash 4, you got Fantasy 5. Every time I play,

they've got to miss me. I just got to hit them once. They keep nominating us, Ocho. We ain't. Every time, eventually, hey, we might be like Susan Lucha. We might go 17, 18, 19 years, but eventually they're going to land on us. All it takes is one, huh?

That's all it takes is one. All it takes is one. That's all it takes. And we're going to be in the house, so please make sure y'all hit that like button. Make sure you hit that subscribe button. We greatly, greatly appreciate it. Ocho, let's jump right into it. Time for our first segment of the day, and it's called News Cap.

Eric B. Enemy was not offered an NFL offensive coordinator job this hiring cycle and will join the UCLA Bruins as their new offensive coordinator. After 16 seasons as an NFL assistant coach, EB, Eric Banamee, has taken the job as the assistant head coach and offensive coordinator on the collegiate level. As Mike Freeman wrote this morning, it's embarrassing for NFL and his team, its owners, that someone as good as EB has to scamper off to college. And he didn't leave college to become a head coach. And he didn't leave for college to become a head coach.

He left to become an assistant coach. Someone who has two Super Bowls as an offensive coordinator, who went to five consecutive conference championship games that included three Super Bowl appearances, will reportedly coach the UCLA. No offense to UCLA, but this is a big step down. EB is the first significant hire of new head coach, UCLA head coach, Deshaun Foster.

Ocho, what are your thoughts on EB? I mean, I wouldn't say or call it a downgrade. Obviously, being able to coach at the collegiate level is good. Being able to coach at the NFL level is good. Obviously, we know probably Eric Benham's dreams are to be a head coach someday, but we understand how that works when it comes to minorities being hiders, head coaches. Those opportunities come far and few. Obviously, we have some success stories with Mike Tomlin, D'Amico Ryans, obviously, and we have a few others that I'm not going to name right now. But, obviously, I think

what might have stunted his opportunity to get a head coaching job might have been what happened down in D.C. last year with them not, from an offensive perspective, not being... Because they were worse than they were the previous year. The previous year. So that kind of hurts a little bit.

And owners will look at that as well and wanting to bring him in. And, you know, being great at what you do when you have a quarterback like Patrick Mahomes, you have an offense like that. But when you have a quarterback like that, it makes everything that much better and that much easier from the offensive coordinating position. So when you don't have that kind of talent around you, what were you able to do? We didn't have a probably arguably the best quarterback around you what does your offense look like and obviously the commanders didn't look as good as they should have obviously declining in our productivity uh the previous years and you know how the owners are they're very very fickle for one they already want people being leaders of men that are like-minded and look exactly like them.

Yes. You already know that. And that's never going to change. Act like them, travel in the same circle as them. Listen, I understand the Rooney rule and all that. But listen, that is all smoke and mirrors. That is all smoke and mirrors. And it's been this way for a very long time.

And we continue to try to knock down doors and argue for the fact that certain people should be getting a job when they don't want to hire us to begin with and and we know that but we continue to fight that's all you can do though joe i thought it was a mistake him leaving anyway and he let people convince him well you need to go outside of andy bro if you weren't gonna get a head coaching job with andy what make and you got my homes and you got all, you got Travis Kelsey and you had Tyreek Hill. Tyreek has been gone for two years and you've had the office that you had. You tell me where you thought you were going to go and you were going to be able to put,

implement your scheme, less talent and get a head coaching job. You know, the funny thing, when I think about it, uh, from a receiver's respect, receiver perspective, the commanders have great talent. They have great talent, especially with Jahan Dawson and Terry McLaurin. And just I think what they were lacking might have been the quarterback position.

If you had a quarterback with the likes of Mahomes or maybe not even Mahomes, just a little bit more efficient. You know, a little bit more efficient, a little bit more consistent. Then the numbers would look different and we reflect on them offensively. But because you didn't, no disrespect to Sam Howell, no disrespect at all, but the numbers are what they are.

Things got worse in your second year as a coordinator. And what do they look at? What do they look at? Who are they going to blame? Even if you're losing those games, if Sam Howell goes out there and throws for 4,800 yards, 32 touchdowns,

you have a couple of receivers that have 1,000 yards. They're like, you know what? I think with the right quarterback and the right, hey, get his people in here. I think he could do something. But that wasn't what happened. And he was already up against it. They were already looking for a reason not to give you a job.

Yeah. Anything. You know that. Yes. You know that. But I tell you what Andy thought of him. Andy thought so much of him. When they played the Ravens, guess who came back in and spoke to the team?

Yeah, E.B. Eric B. Enemy. E.B., yeah. Because he was the count officer. He was the guy that held everybody accountable, from Patrick Mahomes to Travis Kelsey. It did not matter. On that side of the ball, EB held you responsible.

Yeah. His coaching style is very different. His coaching style is very different. He's very hard on players. Matter of fact, for people in the chat, I'm not sure if you ever saw it. Eric B. Enemy's coaching style, which many don't know about, it kind of reminds me of, did you ever see the documentary called The Year of the Bull? No. No. Okay. Well, his coaching style is how I like to say how the kids, our kids are coached

here in Florida. Very harsh. Yeah. Very harsh on top of you, no matter who you are. Everybody's not expendable, but everybody is held to the same standard. Yes. I don't care whether you're the best player on the team or you're the worst player on the team. Everybody got it, no matter what. And that's the way he coached. And you hear a lot of players, former players that played for him that weren't too fond of his coaching style. No. But usually when you have a coach like that, that wants to get the best out of you, that's what you need.

Yeah. I like being held accountable, but I want everybody to be held accountable. Right. Because if I'm in my chair, it meeting starts at nine o'clock. If I'm in my chair at eight 58, why the hell somebody less, less tier to me or even better to me,

they can find her in at nine Oh two. Right. Right. Are we trying to win or we not? I mean, so what was so important that Shannon Sharp could get here on time, but you couldn't? What was so important that Shannon Sharp could stay awake in the meeting,

but you couldn't? What was so important that Shannon Sharp understood that he got to play at the same time you did? And you've been in the league four or five years, and Shannon's been in the league eight years. Why couldn't you learn the plays when we came out there for walkthrough and when we hit practice? But I could.

Look, I don't ask anymore. I don't ask. I didn't ask anymore from my teammates, Ocho, that I was willing to give. That's why I was able to hold them accountable. But that's why they were able to respect me and to respond because they knew what I was giving up to be great.

Everybody's not going to be great, but just because everybody is not going to be a Patrick Mahomes at the quarterback position or Ray Lewis or Aaron Donald or Jonathan Ogden, that don't mean you can't play to your best potential. That doesn't mean that you can't practice like you're an all pro. That doesn't mean you can't play to your best potential. That doesn't mean that you can't practice like you're an all-pro. That doesn't mean you can't study. Yeah. And matter of fact, when you aren't like the great ones, that means you have to do that much more. You got to do little things.

You got to pay attention to the small details, the small details of everything, no matter whether it's the playbook, whether it's your assignment, whether it's your spacing, whether it's your alignment. You have to be that much better in all the smaller details when you don't have the skill. The God-given ability. The God-given ability like everyone else does.

That's exactly right. Yeah. So, I wish EB the best. You know, Ocho, we say this, that whatever God has planned for you, nobody getting in the way of that, it's for you.

Maybe it's not in the cards for EB to be an NFL head coach. Because Antonio Pierce did not call the defensive snaps. Right. He got a head coaching job. We've seen Matt Nagy not call offensive plays

for Kansas City in the same role. See, that's what people got people befuddled. It's like, hold on. Matt Nagy got the Chicago head coaching job, and he didn't call plays in Kansas City. Andy Reid did. They said the same thing about

Doug Peterson. He never called plays under Andy. But he got the job at Philly, and he got the job at Jackson. Well, obviously, never called plays under Andy, but he got the job at Philly and he got the job at Jacksonville. Well, obviously, he called plays in Philly. Yeah. Same thing with Frank Wright. Frank Wright called plays, but he got the Indy job. You have to understand the relationships. You have to understand the people have to understand the dynamic of those relationships when it comes to coaches that you will always have a job no matter what. It's not who you, it's not what you know, it's who you know. It's not what you know, it's who you know. And basically when you come from that tree

up under other coaches and other people get jobs, all they do is they bring you along so you will always have a job no matter what. That's why it's always like you be good because if you look at it, look at Mike, look at Shanahan, look at Kyle Shanahan, Sean McVay and Mike McDaniel and the guy in Green Bay. All those guys come. But look who they hire.

At some point in time, they were lesser tier guys on the San Francisco staff or they were lesser tier guys. And they just pluck. Hey, what you think? Hey, I got a guy for you. Boom, boom, boom, boom. That's how they do it. You always have a job. Long as you don't, you can't burn no bridges. That's it.

You can't burn no bridges. You got to understand how important that is, how important those friendships and relationships are when it comes to coaching. You can't burn no bridges. That's why i feel very comfortable that i was always going to be able to get a job right right because if gary kubiak went out got a job i was going to be able to get a job with his team and then i saw marvin go get a job jack del rio got a job all those guys got jobs that was on that staff you know they're playing with me they know what I brought to the table.

Now, maybe I wasn't a guy that's going to give you 80 catches on 1,000 yards, but I was going to be valuable not only on the field with lesser stats, but I was going to be invaluable in the locker room. Right. And sometimes people think locker room doesn't matter. That only matters because people that's never been in a locker room and people don't know the dynamic of a locker room.

It matters. It absolutely matters. And we kind of touched on this, Ojo. Do you believe he should have ever left Kansas City? I think that's the question that people are asking. That is a great situation.

That's a great situation you know that's a great situation and i'm thinking i'm putting myself in being in my shoes and understanding what i have understanding the greatness that i have the ability to coach in patrick mahomes there's no why i'm leaving that and obviously i say it all the time every time we talk about them we talk about my homes i say the situation with my homes andy reed and the chiefs is similar to that of the patriots when they had brady the pieces to that puzzle offensively will always change as long as that one centerpiece as long as that one nuance is always in place in my homes comparison to brady you're going to always win you're going to always win you're going to always be in

contention and you never leave a situation like that ever, ever. It's like having a girl. It's like having a girlfriend. It's like having a girlfriend that does everything for you, does everything for you. But then you have other potentials that you think may be better. And you want to go take a shot thinking the grass is green on the other side. The grass ain't never, rarely always greener on the other side when you have greatness right here in front of you. Yeah, if you water and fertilize your grass, your grass is going to be lush. Every time. Every time.

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Listen to Spiraled on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Changing on a more somber note, Richard Sherman was arrested on suspicion of DUI. Sherman was stopped going 79 on 60, his second DUI in three years. Sherman was previously arrested for driving under the influence in addition to four other charges in July of 2020 when he crashed his SUV in a construction zone and tried to break into his in-laws' home. According to Mike Florio, this arrest could be a huge problem for Sherm.

In March of 2022, he pleaded guilty to first-degree negligent driving, which included two years of monitored supervision. The two-year period has not yet expired shit i know sherm a little bit um i used to speak to him a lot when he played you know we would touch base and that was you know all for insight about not just not his game because i didn't play the cornerback position but about how he should handle certain situation. And when he took the job at FS1, I talked to him,

talked to him occasionally about what to expect and how to prepare and how to become great. Because I said, I believe you want to be great just like you were when you played the cornerback position. So this is really tough for me. But what I don't understand is that Sherm has been in this situation before and for him to allow himself to put, no, for him to put himself back in harm's way

because you do realize this isn't about you because once you become, you inebriated and you become behind the wheel, you bring everybody else that's on the road, you bring them to the equation. Now you, hey, he got stopped.

Luckily, no one got hurt. But how many times? We just saw a guy get, what, 12, 13 years in Henry Ruggs. Mm-hmm. Yeah. This lady lost her life. He lost his career. Right.

And Sherm had just gone through this in 21 not even two years ago yeah not even two years ago ocho yeah i mean bro i get it i get it ocho and people like well shannon why they want i say bro people need you to see that ferrari they need you to see that lambo or that range or that cullinan if I take an Uber or a Lyft because I'm driving you not gonna see that I need to pull up to the club and you need to see me get out them going doors when them going doors open up

you need to see that quarter of a mil car that I got if I come up in an Uber if I come up in a Lyft bro come on now that's the thinking but Ocho we've seen enough to know that can happen to me. Because you've seen some people that you know and seen it happen to and saw it happen to. So this notion that, oh, man, that can never happen to me.

Ocho, I was the same way. I ain't never wore a seatbelt. The first time I wore a seatbelt was in 1999. You know what happened? Derrick Thomas got in a car accident. He got thrown from a car because he wasn't wearing a seatbelt. I knew DT. Yeah, we had our issues, but I knew DT.

We hung out together. We partied together. We worked out together, and we went to numerous Pro Bowls together where he drove, and I was in the car with him and we laughing and talking. So that was a personal situation. Oh, hell, that happened. It ain't somebody in Kansas that I didn't know. That's somebody I really, really knew.

And for Sherm to allow to put himself back in harm's way and to bring and potentially bring others. That's what I'm most disappointed in because he knows better yeah um listen i i love sherm very very good friend of mine obviously um spoken to him many times throughout the years you know over the years i respect him as a player i respect him as a man i respect him as an individual with a brilliant mind someone with a brilliant mind with great knowledge of the game on and off the field. Obviously, I'm disappointed in his decision to want to continue to drink after having situations in the past before, as someone who has made mistakes in life as well. I have learned from those mistakes. I have learned

from those lessons and those times. I know what it's like, those times of getting in trouble and it's dark. You know, there's no help. All those that were in your corner, obviously, when it's time for those to support you, everybody gone. I know what it's like. I know what Sherman's probably going through right now. You got to fix it. You got to fix it. It's tough.

How do you fix it? I don't know. You gotta get help because clearly that's an issue that he wants to drink and feel he can drive. Right. And you know, it's funny. It's funny that I really have no, it's hard for me to speak on the topic outside of the mistake itself because I've made mistakes in life myself, but I'm not a drinker. So I'm not sure how hard it is for someone to give up on something like alcohol. Is it really that hard to give up, especially if it's affecting now not just other people's lives, but your livelihood and the work that you do? So it's hard for me to talk on it. So I'm curious, you would know better than I do when it comes to

alcohol. Is it that difficult to stop? How about I put it to you like this? You take your worst situation. Would you put yourself back in that situation again? No. Oh, no. See, I got to give you, see, what I try to do is that I try to give people things that they, see, you don't drink. So you don't know what it's like to stop drinking or drink and then try to get behind the wheel. How about I put it to you like this? I take your worst situation and then would you put yourself back in that situation again? Because you know what? If you take my worst

situation that I've had, I'd never recover again because I ain't getting a second chance. See? I'm not getting another chance. It ain't happening. I'm in hell of hot water and it wasn't in God's favor. It wasn't in God's favor. It wasn't in God's favor. You know, I don't do all that preaching, God this and God that. But I know,

I know good and goddamn well how I'm back where I fell from again. It ain't no goddamn luck. Damn, I mean, listen, I love Sherman to death, man. I hope he gets the help that he needs yes uh i'm sure he will be in the brilliant mind that he is outside the mistake that he's made the reoccurring mistake that he's made he's gonna be all right i think he's gonna be all right but

you can't put not just yourself in harm's way but others as well on the road and see that's the thing ocho it's not an isolated incident. It's just not you. Right. Because guess what? You brought every other car that's on the road at the time that you're on the road,

you brought them into the equation. Right. Oh, but it didn't. But I'm saying, we always say what it didn't happen, but then when it does happen, oh, I'm saying thoughts and prayers,

thoughts and prayers ain't help nobody. Right. I just feel, like I said, I know Sherm, and I just hate that he put himself back in this situation. After the Super Bowl, Delaney Walker in 2013, he lost his uncle and aunt. No, yeah, his uncle and aunt were killed by drunk drivers five hours after watching him

play in the Super Bowl. The Nail House, he lost his sister-in-law and three nephews that were killed by a drunk driver a few years ago. Nephews were five, two, and seven months. You know, I don't think when you think about it. Look,

your reaction time is so much slower. It's bad, huh? Yes. It's kind of like it's kind of like when you don't have enough sleep. Your reaction time, if they keep you, they keep you up and they put people through tests in the military. They want you to be able to function. That's why they wake you up. That's what they call it.

Hell, we they put you through the test where you and you still got to function. But your reaction time is not the same when you still got to function. But your reaction time is not the same when you get eight to ten hours of sleep. That's crazy. You know how, Ocho, just think about it. When somebody flashed a hand

in front of your face, all they do is right there in the bumper, the ball to hit the ground. Yeah. That's the reaction. Yeah, you're right. That's all it takes.

Yeah. That's all it takes. Damn's all it takes damn but sure man bro take time get this problem solved bro because you you better than this you have a lot to give and uh i would hate to see you really really not only hurt yourself but harm someone harm someone else right now uh uh your television career should be the last thing that's on your mind the first thing that should be on your mind is getting the help that you need so you can be there for your family your friends and your loved ones that's counting on richard sherman so we're praying for you bro thank god nobody was injured but uh we wish you the best and uh get the

help that you need yeah cam newton was involved in a wild brawl at a 7-on-7 football tournament. Video emerged today at a 7-on-7 youth football camp about Cam getting involved. They forgot that Cam is not a regular human being like them. No, not at all. He was an interesting guy single-handedly. I'm sure you watched it. We're showing it right now. You know what's funny?

It's not about just watching this It's not just about watching this one Listen Young fellas Parents Need to understand When you have someone like Cam Newton Giving players an opportunity

To display themselves At these 7-on-7 camps You are supposed to be taking advantage of these situations. Many of times, I have seen clips, not just, forget this fight here. Many of times, I've seen players, I've seen coaches, and I've seen parents disrespect Cam Newton at these camps, seven-on-seven camps that he performed. I've seen it before. I've seen the clips over the years. You are supposed to be, as parents, especially as kids, soaking up as much knowledge as you can and talking about football and just, how can I get to where you got to? What do I need to do? Oh, I'm just thinking about the camps I used to go to when I was a little kid.

The Miami Hurricanes had camps in the summer, seven on seven. When I was at them camps, man, I'm talking to the goddamn players from the Hurricanes and getting a better understanding of what it took to get you here, even though they weren't in the NFL yet. How do I get to this spot where you are? We need to take advantage of that. But kids these days, they want to argue. They want to talk trash. They want to act like they've already arrived. They're the best thing coming to Christ. But that's not it. That's not the case. And I see the

parents do the same thing. Disrespecting Cam when he's giving you guys a space to showcase your talents and instead you want to come there. You want to disrespect them. You want to talk trash. They do. They do. We've seen it. We've seen it. And I think Cam has handled it very well, Ojo. And you see Cam ain them you want to talk trash they do they do we've seen it we've seen it and i think cam has handled it very well ocho and you see cam ain't really trying to punch nobody no no he's like holding one off like trying to throw him off like bro and they they tried to you

know like i said i mean he wasn't trying to punch nobody because cam could have easily once he slung him down could have just tagged one of them when the dude ran up he could have caught a two-piece and yeah cam would probably but they kids and cam has that in the dude ran up, he could have caught a two-piece. Cam would have probably, but the kids. And Cam has that in the back of his mind. He's like, man, if I'm out here slugging up, swinging on these dudes, man, even though they're in the room, that's still going to look negative. That's going to project negatively on me. But Cam is a better man to me.

Because the first time the kids disrespect me, I ain't coming back. I'm closing the shot. The fact that he continues to come back. That's my point. That's why I say he's a better man than me. He continues to hold these camps. Those kids and players and parents and coaches as well, y'all got to take advantage of that, man.

You got to take advantage of those situations to showcase your talent because you never know who watching. No. You never know who watching. You never know who watching. Man, it's bad. Because I think I told you the story.

Savannah State was playing Bowie State in Maryland. They were playing in the stadium. Coach Davis, obviously, I was in Baltimore at the time and Coach Davis, who recruited me, was still with the head coach. I think he had left and came back. But anyway, he asked me to come say a few words.

And, you know, I went and spoke to the team. And I remember when I'm finishing, well, you know, I'm getting ready to leave. I said, Coach, you know, they're getting ready to have a pregame meal. I said, Coach, I'm getting ready to leave. I appreciate it, Coach. I held, hugged him. And me and my homeboy, Bucket, one of the dudes went up to me. I signed my autograph because I'm going to be more famous than you.

Ah. It's okay. Now, juxtapose now, that's Savannah State. That's my school. Right. I go to Clemson. Taj Boyd, I'm talking about, I think Sammy Watkins is there. Martabian. All of them guys,

eyes on me. At the end, they come down there, man. Appreciate that Damn it. All of them guys, eyes on me. At the end, they come down there, man, appreciate that, man. Boy, that was,

that was motor. Hey, I appreciate that, man. Yeah. Hey, that's awesome, man.

Hey, I appreciate you telling us what it takes to get to the next level. I appreciate you telling us what it takes to be a team and to win, blah,

blah, blah. You see the difference? Yeah. Kids don't, a lot of these kids don't respect, but if they don't respect a lot of these kids don't respect. But if they don't respect a stranger,

they damn sure respect their parents at home. Because I know if that had been me and a professional athlete, present or retired, showed up, yes, sir, no, sir. Hey, how did I do? How did I do, coach? What can I do better? How can I get better?

That's my thought process, Ocho. Right. When did it become cool? I don't know when because I missed that generation to be disrespectful. I don't care if somebody only a couple years old. It was always, yes

sir, no sir, yes ma'am, no ma'am. We were never allowed to be disrespectful under no circumstance. Now these kids, they don't care. And the parents don't hold them accountable. The parents think it's cute too. But little do you know, my grandma used to tell me all the time, she'd say, boy, you can listen to me on the outside or you can listen to somebody on the inside.

But somebody will tell you what to do sooner or later. Yeah, one or the other. And one of the things that I've done great at when I attend camps like this and when I'm around, listen, when I'm in the inner city, obviously where I grew up from, and I kind of resonate and I resonate very well with the kids because I adjust to how you are. I know when I'm in that atmosphere, similar to what Cam was in, I'm coming in being like the same individual from the field. I'm coming in talking shit off jump. I'm coming in talking shit off jump in a playful, fun way, playful, fun, competitive way. So don't come talking trash about what you're doing and you like that. Because if you're not like that, I'm going to let you know right there on the field. You better be that boy

to be talking the way you're talking. So I understand kind of like what Cam was going through in a sense, but I know how to diffuse it in a way to where the trash talk is about what you're doing out there on the field because that's what we're here for. Nah. That's what we're here for. I'm trying to see if you're really that boy because I do my talking.

I talk it, but I walk it. All you got to do is turn on the tape. I trash talk people on my level. I'm there to teach. Yeah, okay, I understand. See, you're different. I'm there to teach as well, but I'm there to teach. Yeah, okay, I understand. See, you're different. I'm there to teach as well, but I'm there to teach as well

along with the trash talk. You're going to get them out. But here's the thing, Ocho. Once you start putting on that, now they're going to feel they're on your level. And so they feel they can handle you on your level. You see, now you've brought yourself down to their level, to a 15, 16-year-old. I want to stay here. I want to stay in the adult role

as an advisory role, as a respectful role. Like I tell my kids all the time that the dynamic of our relationship will never change. I'm always going to be dead. You're always going to be the child. And so we're going to stay in our appropriate roles. But the first time

and I remember the video where the kid got disrespect for the camp at the gate, by the fence, on the sideline. On the sideline, yeah. I remember, I remember, I remember the video where the kid got disrespect for the camp at the gate by the fence on the sideline on the sideline yeah I remember I remember I remember I remember because I'm doing this out of the kindness of my heart right right see you you and I you and I a little different we approach

things different and we operate a little different in a controlled environment like that in a controlled environment like that as far as football is concerned you what I mean you're known for trash talking but my mouth, I do my talking before I even walk it. So I kind of adjust to the type of players I'm around based on

the atmosphere I am. Even though it's in a respectful way, or even if I am teaching and coaching, I still got to be able to talk a certain way based on where I'm at. I just, oh, but here's the thing and they're trying to say well you're not this you're not that okay so what Cam is not Brady but he still

might be the best player that you'll ever get an opportunity to shake his hand and see personally yeah and I remember when my brother used to have football camps and you know obviously you know it was I mean we had I mean he shut it down many many years ago but you know, it was, I mean, we had, I mean, he shut it down many, many years ago. But, you know, we had a Barry Sanders and a Brett Favre and a Reggie White. All the guys would come. But I don't know when it happened where these young kids thought it was okay to be flip at the lip, to be disrespectful. And that's what it is. There's no other way around it. And I don't care what cam his hair look like, how he dresses.

The man is taking time out of his day to give back. Show the man some courtesy. Show the man respect. That's the problem with us. And I ain't talking about nobody else. I'm talking about our community. Because that's what we need to address. Because

that's what he was out there doing, trying to help that community. And you be disrespectful? And you've been that way with Cam. And I just don't know why. I don't know how. But parents, grandparents, uncles and aunts, we need to do a better job with these kids. Right. And then we understand.

I don't know why they want nobody to hire that boy or that girl. I don't know how. You know why. Yeah. Because they talk to how. You know why. Yeah. Because they talk to you like you left them. So if they talk to you and they see you every day, what do you think they're doing when they go on somebody's job? What do you think they're doing once they get on somebody's job?

Yeah. But again, the coaches and the parents need to understand when someone like Cam Newton gives your player, it's not even football season, huh? No. It's not even football season, huh? No! It gives the players an opportunity to display their talents and work on their craft in the offseason like this. You got to pay homage.

You got to pay respects to one of the best that played our game. You have to. I show, you know what? I tell you what you've never seen. Peyton and Eli have been having a camp for 20-something years. You ain't never seen no kids be disrespectful to peyton and eli tell me tell me the footage tell me the footage that you've seen out there show it to me when peyton eli asked these kids or the true breeze because a lot of times they take up a lot of these pro quarterbacks and

sometimes upper level college quarterback show me the. It sucks because we think it's cute. I show, hey, man, I went out there. Man, I told Cal to shut up. I told him he was trash. I told him he was garbage. Y'all think that's cute. It's not. It's not.

And you wonder why. I don't. I've been stopped wondering. It's embarrassing. Yeah. It's really embarrassing that somebody take time out of their day, out of their schedule, out of their life, and try to give back. And you disrespectful, ungrateful.

Man, Cam, like I told you, Cam way better than me. Yeah. Because I don't have patience for my own kids to be disrespectful. I'll be damned if I'm going to let somebody else's kid disrespect me, and I'm taking time out of my, those are my blood. I got an obligation when they're coming up,

but I have an obligation to tell them what's right and wrong. And it's always going to be yes sir, no sir. My kids to this day, somebody older than them, it's yes sir, it's no sir. It's yes ma this day somebody holding them is yes sir is no sir it's yes ma'am no ma'am right and my kids hey oh my kid they might curse oh i'm sorry daddy i'm still dead and i know you grown but be careful now hey sob don't be letting the sobs and mofos coming out your mouth all kind of hot now yeah my kids my kids curse i know they curse

obviously they all goddamn grown but they have they, my kids curse. I know they curse. Obviously, they all goddamn grown, but they have yet the curse in front of me. They have yet the curse in front of me. But the thing, again, and knowing Cam like I know Cam, despite the incident today, despite the disrespect from whatever team he had an issue with, he's still going to put it on. He's still going to continue to have those camps to allow those kids to showcase their talents and be seen, to work on their craft, to get better. Just knowing Cam like I do. He's not going to allow this to bother him. Ocho,

you know a situation like that, you know how it ends. You know what normally happens, Ocho. What normally happens, Ocho. You remember at the football game? A key to leave, brother. You coach, boom. Now he gone away for life.

How many times we done saw somebody get killed over some bull jive? You know why? You know what happens a lot of times with these parents' situation? Because the parents didn't do anything. They're living vicariously through their child. Through their kids. Yeah, most definitely. They want it for their child more than the child wants For their kids. Yeah. Most definitely. They want it for their child.

Yes. I'm living through you. And I feel you harming my child. You taking something from my child. It was a call, a block, you know, so forth and so on.

But man, I hate this so much because I know, like I said, Cam's dad's a couple of years older than me. He went to Savannah State. I think Cecil graduated like 84, 85.

I think I got there like 86. So Cecil's probably about five years older than me. So if I'm 55, I'd be 56. Cecil's got to be like 61, 61, 62 tops. And so I know him. I know Cecil. I knew Cecil. And I know Cam had an opportunity to get to know Cam.

But man, I just hate it. Because guess what? That's viral. And you know what people that don't look like us saying? We ain't got to do nothing. Just sit back. They're doing it to themselves. We ain't got to do nothing.

That's what they're saying, Ocho. Ocho, you know what they're saying. Yeah. Most definitely. Most definitely. Most definitely. And then we get mad when they... Why? When you act like that,

that man giving back. He ain't going to stop, though. Cam ain't letting this stop him. This definitely ain't going to stop him. He going to keep working with the kids, man. He going to keep working with them, no matter what. Come hell or high water.

And I don't understand how anybody, Cam Newton, 6'5", 6'6", 6'2", 240, he make the people he played in the NFL with look small. He make them look small. What you think he finna do with Cam? Come on, man. Cam, I mean, look, I'm 250-ish, 3. Cam, 2, 3 inches taller than me. Probably got me by...

Cam at least 265 right now. Easy. Cam at least 265. I would give him 270. Still work out, man. Yeah. He still work out a little bit too, man. But he not in football shape, so Cam solid.

Cam solid. I was just on fourth a couple of weeks ago. Cam a big ass man. Yeah. And he showed incredible restraint. Yeah, he did. Because your instinct is Ocho when somebody's attacking you is to attack back. Yeah, to attack back. Yeah, he did.

I would understand that they are kids. They are kids and I'm not sure what was said but again parents and coaches you got to be able to get a hold on your kids man you got to you got to oh joe you see what did you say they're kids yeah but all of a sudden they put themselves on an adult level you see you see what they did yes sir now see the dynamic wasn't the dynamic should always be this cam newton is an adult cam newton is giving back cam should be here why would you ever think you're on this level at this point in time now

maybe you come to the end maybe you become an nfl player maybe you become great you win an mvp win a super bowl all pros and so forth and so on. But at this time in your life, what makes you think? I just don't, like I said, I just grew up in a different time and era. My grandfather,

man, look here. I couldn't even imagine the kind of ass whipping I would have got. Because you know, back then, first of all, the people tore your tail up and then took you

home and say, Mary, I had to whip that boy. Barnett, I had to whip that boy. He was saying such and such. And then you got it even worse when you got home. But see, the community used to police it until all of a sudden we got, you know, don't put your hand on my child.

Okay. Don't worry about it. We ain't going to put our hands on him. They got a system that'll put their hands on him. They'll coach him up. Yeah. Nah, we're not going to. Nah, don't put your hands on him. Don't worry.

Just a matter of time. That crazy. Damn. Well, hopefully the situation works out. Cam, hang in there, bro. Like I said, you're a better man than me, and you've been doing this since you since you got to the league. You and your dad put this seven on seven, seven on seven camp on trying to give back to your community, trying to help underprivileged kids.

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He said he believed the contact was intentional. Duke coach called for court storm and ban. Look around the country, Caitlin Clark. Something happens, and now flip. I don't know what his status is going to be, but one thing is when I played, at least it was 10 seconds you stormed the court. Now the buzzer goes off and they go off and running on the floor. What do you think, Ocho?

You know, I don't watch much basketball. You already know that. But the court storming to me, the court storming on football fields has always been a cool thing. I mean, I'm just saying from the outside looking in, it's just always been cool. The excitement to obviously beat a team. Probably most of the time they do storm the court. You beat a team when you were the underdog. Yes.

You know, you didn't have a chance to win a game. And, you know, college kids storm the court. I'm not sure the extent of the young fella's injury that plays for Duke. Hopefully he's okay. But banning court storming, I think it's somewhat of almost like an unwritten rule. I think it's cool. Maybe we should have a rule set in place. Wait until

the opposing team that lost leaves the court. Then you storm it. No. That would be the purpose. Because I got to run. I got to let y'all see it. That's Duke. Do you understand what Duke represents? Do you understand what Carolina and Kentucky and Kansas. Man, got to let y'all see it. That's Duke. Do you understand what Duke represents? Do you understand what Carolina and Kentucky and Kansas? Man, if we beat y'all, uh-uh.

I ain't letting nobody. I need to see y'all because I need to laugh it. But see, you mess around and get in a situation with LeGarrette Blount. You remember when? Oh, yeah. When the Oregon had the Oregon. Yeah, okay. So now you see. Remember that.

But see, then he end up getting suspended and people looking crazy. What you want me to do? You cover up in my face. They tell you now, Ocho, take eight, take 10 minutes, take 15 minutes to cool down. Now, right after the game, you up in my face. Ah, y'all suck. Quoting right on the chin.

Yeah. Hey, listen, that's a tough one. I don't want to see court storming ban or field storming ban in general. We got to find something, another way to just protect the players. I think that's what it comes down to, protecting the players. So allow the players to lead the court first, at least something like that. Because think about it, Ochoa, but them kids just have, so what do you think the players are? You think they're adults? They're the same age as the kids running on the floor. Right, right, right. So you expect them, see, they've always

expected this from athletes. Athletes have always been supposed to show the restraint, even in a situation where we're the same age. A college kid and a college student, for the most part we're the same age. A college kid and a college student, for the most part, are the same age. Same age. So one runs on the floor, oh, that's a part of fun.

Hey, you show restraint. You're not in college. You're an adult. Right. So what would you say? Would you say ban it? I thought something was going to take place after the Gary Blunt situation. Right.

I really did. But it happened. And they tried to find him. What did you find him? $50,000? $75,000? That ain't nothing to no institution. How much did he do? I think the SEC, each team, football team,

just got like $50 million from the college football playoffs and stuff like that. And the Big Ten about to get probably 60 million. So what's 75? What's 150,000 for two court storming fields? How much

did they get, Ash? No, no, no. I'm saying how much did this year the SEC teams get for the college football playoffs? I think they got $53 million per team. Honestly, to me, as not a fan of basketball,

but I like to watch ESPN or just watching sports and see the fans storm the field. It looked cool to me. I like it. I like it. But you do it at your own discretion. That's what I say. Oh, that was right.

LeGarrette Blount, he punched a player. The player ran up in his face. It wasn't a fan. It wasn't a fan? That was a player. Yeah. Ah, y'all suck. We beat y'all. Yes, I ain't here for that, bro. I ain't here for that bro I ain't here for that

I remember that but it's it's you're asking an awful lot because you know when look most athletes are sore losers Ocho you don't get to that level you don't get to that level by being

a gracious loser that thing hurt. It hurts. And the more you put into it, the more it hurts. And the funny thing about it, if you got schools storming the court and you lose a game, you know it was a game of importance. Yes. It was a game of importance, and you must have been good, and you went down losing. And the wrong fan hit you, the wrong fan say the wrong thing.

It's just going to take for one altercationcation and then they will probably do something about it but again controlling an entire student section or college campus from storming the court that's a that's a tough deal especially if the team's ranked but you already know i mean when you think of college basketball you think of duke you think of carolina you think of k basketball, you think of Duke, you think of Carolina, you think of Kentucky, you think of Kansas. It used to be UCLA, but UCLA hadn't been a top program in a number of years. So when you think of the Blue Bloods, it's those schools. Duke, Carolina, Kansas, Kentucky.

Those teams are normally ranked. If I beat you and I'm not ranked or I'm ranked lower than you, oh, I'm hitting the court. That's how the fans look at it. And I have another question, and excuse my lack of knowledge for college basketball in general, but to my understanding,

women's college basketball at this point in time is much better than men's college basketball because of Angel Reese and Kaitlyn Clark and what they've been able to do. Is that true or I'm just... I think the thing is that networks have put an emphasis on women's college sports. Right.

And now the players are one and done. And the women, you can get your hands around, your arm around because they're staying two years, three years. You see these, you see Caitlin Clark is debating, is she going to come back? Or you see, you know, Angel Reese, I think she has another year of eligibility. Is she's going to come back? It's not like that.

It's not like that anymore. The days of the Grant Hills and the Tim Duncan stay in four years, that's over Ocho. Right. days of the Grant Hills and the Tim Duncan stay in four years, that's over Ochoa. Because if you're that good, the scouts are saying, if you're that good, why are you going back?

Right. All right, so the women can't do that? Because Kaitlyn Clark is that good. She was that good last year. Yeah. Because she left and went to the WNBA. She's making more an hour than she is in the WNBA. What the hell you mean? Angel Reese is making way more money in NIL. She's making almost $2 million.

The most she can make is $250. That's if she's a veteran max player. She's not going to get that as a rookie. So why the hell would she go to the WNBA? And that's no knock on the WNBA. I'm just saying, when you are Kaitlyn Clark or you are Angel Reese, you're one of these top-notch females. You're making more in college than you will in the NBA. or you are Angel Reese. You're one of these top-notch females. You're making more in college

than you will in the NBA. Are you serious? Yes. Well, they got to do something about that. They got to change that. Why do you think those women be going overseas

to supplement their income, Ocho? Oh, shit. That's why they have to go to Russia and all these, Italy and China and wherever they have to go. Remember, uh, uh, uh. Brittany Griner. Brittany Griner.

How she got caught up? She overseas. Okay, okay, okay. Because she got, and she can make basically double, probably double her income overseas than what she can at WNBA. So how do we, how do we generate, or how do we get

the women to make not, obviously not the type of money that the NBA players make, but to, to bridge the gap or to get them a little closer to where they don't have to play overseas? What needs, what needs to be done? Man, that's something that the WNBA, the W, the WNBA, the WNBA PA and the NBA. Because I mean, they're the clamoring. They don't sell out arenas like the men do, Ocho. The advertising, the sponsor dollars are not there like the men. So you're saying, OK, let's just say they make 10 percent. Well, they're not they're not generating 10 percent of the revenue. OK, OK, OK, okay, okay, okay.

I mean, I just, and people like, well, I'm just giving you the harsh reality of what it is. Right. The fact that Andrew Reese and Kaitlyn Clark make more in college than they will in the WNBA, that's crazy work, man. Yes. I mean, Andrew Reese, I mean, I think she said that she'd make it, what, 1.7? I think she'd make, like, 1.7 in NIL money. I mean, she's gonna have to

play, like, five, six years to get that. What? Yes! I mean, I think the quarter of a million is the max money that a... But money that but that's for Asia Wilson that's for Stewie Breonna Stewart

that's for those that ain't for everybody can't get that kind of paper I had no idea those were the numbers, that was the revenue that they were making, I had no idea I thought they were making good money, I'm talking about listen, not no five year 280, but I that they were making i had no idea i thought they were making good money i'm talking about listen not no no five year 280 but i thought he was making no three four five million something like that and sometimes the players overseas can make over 10

times of what they make here so that's why they go over there. Well, that's crazy, bro. The SEC earned $765 million from the college football playoffs. I think there's 14 teams. Aren't there 14 teams? Or are there 12? 14. So that's at least 50. 14. That's at least 50 million.

If I have my math, that might be 53 million each. 53 times 14 is how much, Ash? It better not be 53.3 or 53.4 because I'm going to be mad. 54.6 million. So I was off

a million dollars. Each team. Now, that's crazy. But see, here's the thing, Ocho. The WNBA also helps supplement the WNBA. So the NBA helps supplement them because the sponsorship, the ad dollars is just not there.

That's the harsh reality. Ocho, that's the harsh reality of it. Right. Women's sports, unless you play tennis and, you know, Billie Jean and you had Billie Jean was the first to do it. And then you have Venus and Serena, some of the others. Hold on. Right.

We want to get paid with the men. If they get $3 million for a Grand Slam championship, why we got to get 1.8? We want 3-2. Yeah. Grand Slam Championship. Why we got to get 1.8? We want 3-2. Yeah, especially just some of the names that I hear all the time, especially WNBA players that I don't watch it often,

but the Asia Wilsons, Breonna Stewart, Kelsey Plum, these are household names that I know, and I don't even watch basketball. I know them, so I'm watch basketball. I know them so I'm expecting because I know their name and I don't even watch the game but I'm expecting

them to make the kind of money, not what the NBA dudes are making, but the four or five million range because they are household names. Man, that's bro, you understand? They got to fix that shit, man. It's called supply and demand, Ocho.

You got to have to. There's a reason why college coaches get paid more than a college professor because 85,000 ain't signing up for a history class. Okay, I see. I got you. I got you.

They're not going to do no science project. 85,000 coming to that stadium. Damn. That's crazy. As of October 23, Erica Wheeler of the Indiana Fever was the highest paid player in the WNBA for 2023. She had a salary of $242,154. she had a salary of $242,154 now Ocho look

that's good money for an average person what's the average salary in America probably what $75,000 so she's probably making three times what the average person will make but we just used to hear like we think professional athlete and we think everybody get $10, $15, $20

million but that's not the case it's going to get there though I'm not sure. I'm not sure when, but it's gonna get there at some point. The average income from American is 59,000. That don't make no sense. That don't make no sense, especially as a WNBA player and the work that they had to put in based on some of the shit I see on goddamn TV and clips and highlights. Man, them motherfuckers can play. They deserve to be compensated as such. Again, not like the NBA players, but way more than what?

240 who? 242. Shit me. Man, hold on. The average salary is $59,500. How the hell my grandma fed us with $197 every two weeks then?

And you talk about, oh, why you eat all that? Now you see why I ate what I ate, Ocho. Yeah. And then you got to think back. It wasn't no bone,

it wasn't no bone in ribeyes coming across that table. Yeah, but you know, when your grandma, when your grandma was young, remember the price of everything was very, very low now.

The price of everything was very low back then. I tell you what, $3.80, $1.97, that's $4, that's $9. So $3.94. $3.94 a month. So my grandma brought home $4,500 a year. You think stuff was that cheap back then?

$4,500 a year cheap? Hell no. Exactly. Damn, man. That's crazy man yeah 197 every two weeks 394 a month you see it's times like this it's times like this i wish i was a billionaire because i fixed the shit i fixed a little situation there what you keep saying see, here's the thing, Ocho, you do realize how billionaires get to become billionaire? They don't give away

their money along the way. They have their names put on buildings at colleges. They have their names on hospitals or hospital floor. But I understand that, right?

But there has to be some type of plan in place to be able to invest in WNBA teams to make sure they get paid an adequate salary, which many will say, probably argue me down, that the salary is adequate, but at least to where they're making in the millions. millions. There has to be a way to recoup. Maybe it be through advertising. Maybe it be through sponsors. But making $242 is not a fuck enough based on what I've been able to see from someone that doesn't even watch the game on how good they are. They need to be compensated much

much more than they are. That's all I'm saying. Ocho, when you advertise, I need eyeballs. There's a reason why ads cost $7.5 million for a Super Bowl. Because eyeballs. If eyeballs ain't watching, Ocho, you under this notion that people

want to give away free money. It's not like that. Well, I know I'm not under the notion that people want to give away free money because ain't nobody giving away free money, but I would have a plan in place to execute the eyeballs to make sure they watching. Listen, you can't make people watch what they don't want to to execute the eyeballs to make sure they're watching. Listen, Joe, let me tell you something.

They don't want to watch. You got to make it more exciting. How? These women are as skilled as they've ever been. And I go back to when La Tech won the first two. And then Cheryl Miller and Clarissa Davis, the Texas team. I go way back then. Kim Mulkey, the Baylor coach, now she LSU. She was on the first national championship team with La Tech.

Well, that's the one. Hey, she be dressing fly, huh? Yeah, if that's what you want to call it. Yeah, she be flying. She like real, real simple. I remember all that when the USC with Pam and Paula McGee and Cheryl Miller and Cynthia Cooper. So I go back and the women now are as skilled at any point in time.

Better, better, better. They're better. There was not even a league when those women, they had to go overseas. Yeah, they had no choice. Right. Yeah, they had no choice. Right. And the fact that they have to go overseas, that made that that even lets you know that some things need to be to be put in place. I don't have a plan right now because I'm just sitting here talking with you. I'm just saying if I was in a position of power, there would be something that I want to do to keep my girls home playing here in the States. Yeah. But look, you see, you seen AJ Wilson play yeah I just

she was at the she was on the losing side she left handed she was on the losing side she was a assistant coach

with Steve and A yeah me and 50 did that number on her yeah she good but yeah see somebody like her

she's supposed to be making 3, 4, 5 million easy no questions asked I saw her, Chelsea Gray, Kelsey Plum, all of them were sitting on I just want y'all to know Aja, Asia,

Asia, Kelsey, Chelsea. Y'all sitting on the losing side. Next time, y'all better come on down on the upside because y'all know I be doing that thing. I be diagramming the plays. You know what I'm saying? say oh that's crazy man that i ain't know that man fuck it's all right it's all right some other things i'm gonna fix in the world man as soon as i'm president you don't want people digging no joke well they could dig because

they you know i live my life I don't live my life private. I do everything publicly. I promise you got some stuff. You've done some stuff you don't want people to know. Everybody has. Everybody has, Ocho. It's okay. Everybody has.

Did you hear what I just said? No. You live your life private. You live your life publicly now. Oh, I always have. Okay. Always. Okay. Always. Okay.

Always. That's a pressure cooker. I like pressure cookers and I like pressure. Okay. So when I run for office, you already know what time it is. And when I win,

you can be my vice president. Nah, hell nah. I don't want nobody, I don't want nobody, hey, he dead. I ain't running for nothing. Matter of fact. I ain't running for nothing. Matter of fact. I ain't running nothing but my mouth.

And that's the problem. Because if you look at some of the people that's already been in office, and we talk about digging up. Oh, we don't want to talk about. Ocho, think about this, Ocho. Think about how people. Ocho, I got a little podcast.

Think about how people coming at me. Can you imagine if I'm VP, president, or House of Representatives? Can you imagine? I got you, though. I'm the president. I got you. I, or House of Representatives. Can you imagine? I got you, though. I'm the president. I got you. I want no part of that, bro.

I got you. Can you imagine me, the State of the Address? Go ahead. Oh, man, I'd be shocked. State of the Union. State of the Union. Yeah, Union of the Address.

Yeah. Boy, I'd be, boy. And you know what? I could talk now. Depending on the environment I'm in, I can switch up real quick. Like, I hit a switch. I. You know, I can talk now. Depending on the environment I'm in, I can switch up real quick. Like, I hit a switch. I don't want no part of that.

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