Club Shay Shay - Nightcap Hour 1: Fernando Mendoza HEISMAN MOMENT in National CHAMPIONSHIP + Bills FIRE Head Coach Sean McDermott + Titians HIRE Robert Saleh as Head Coach

Episode Date: January 20, 2026

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson react to the Indiana Hoosiers winning the National Championship by beating the Miami Hurricanes in a thriller of a game, the Buffalo Bills have fired Sean McDermott, and the Tennessee Titans have hired Robert Saleh as their new head coach and much more! Subscribe to Nightcap presented by PrizePicks so you don’t miss out on any new drops! Download the PrizePicks app today and use code SHANNON to get $50 in lineups after you play your first $5 lineup! Visit https://prizepicks.onelink.me/LME0/NI... 5:11 - Indiana beats Miami30:56 - Bills fire Sean McDermott47:10 - Robert Saleh to the Titans (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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just because they won the game now. Come on now. Oucho. You do know my daughter got a doctorate degree from Indiana, right? Oh, but your daughter, your daughter deserves the right to wear the shirt, not you? Why were you rooting for Miami? You didn't go to Miami.

I was born in Miami. That's the reason I was rooting for. My daughter. So, hold on, you to play for the hurricanes. I said I was born in Miami. Okay, my daughter, my money went to IU. Okay, I like, hey, I like that. I like that.

I like that. Hoosiers. Okay, okay. You know, that was a good game though. That was a good game. Very good game. Hey, let me tell you something. Let me tell you something.

The playoffs, most of the time, we argue and we fussed about the teams that made the playoffs. But when it got down to the nitty-gritty in the championship game, the two right teams were there. Yes. The two white teams were there because this game was very, very good tonight. I would have loved for you to do a little bit more offensively, especially in the first half. But I'm going to let you do the, before we talk about it, I'm going to let you go. Thank you guys for joining us for another episode of Nightcap as you watch the very very, very exciting national championship game.

The Indiana Hoosiers stand atop of the mountain. A perfect 16 and O record. They take down the hurricanes by the score of 27 to 21. One of the great college turnarounds in college history. I don't know if we've had a better story than what we have tonight. A team that's been a predominant butterfeeder for the better part of 100 years. And here they are kings of college football. Y'all know who I am.

I am your favorite uncle. That is my partner and co-host, the one that's very disappointed. He's been losing a lot to me lately. I can't wait. Do y'all see that video that we got coming out in a couple of weeks. My bad, by bad, Ocho, we ain't going to talk about that. We ain't going to talk about that. The Liberty City legend.

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You don't want to miss this one. The Indiana Hoosiers, Ocho, they did it. They won the national championship. My cousin, who got that pick, Ocho? My cousin, Jambari Sharp. Hey, you don't know him, man. You don't know him. Now he ain't my cousin.

You ain't no kin to him. You know, we, eh, that where are you from, man? Where are you from? He's a sharp. That's all you need to know. Hey, actually, he's from Miami. He's from, he from down here. I got some relatives down there.

No, you don't. Yeah, no. I do I got Rela down there. Down there and Cocoa Beach. Oh, down there, Cocoa Beach, yeah. Coco Beach. Yeah. Ain't none of us down in no Cocoa Beach.

Whoa, whoa, y'all, hold on. Ain't like y'all inhabited like y'all landed on Miami. The Johnson's, well, so now you, not all y'all Johnson's in Miami. Yeah, listen, flowers, Johnson, rose, Franklin. Yeah, we dominate down here. in the side in Miami. A matter of fact, I might be wrong. I'm asking probably to check that.

I think he is from Florida. Ask if you could check that. You got a fact check before people jump on top of my head now. No, Jamari Sharp. Jamari Sharp, I think he is. Jamari Sharp, he undercut a deep right. I don't know, I don't know if Beck was thinking he was gonna back shoulder him or what because the receiver kept right.

Yeah. You came back shoulder that and the safety roll. In the middle of the field, you gotta be, that's gotta be a sideline throw. That's, he got to let that go. He got to let it go. Oh, he went to my, he went to Northwest and he is from Miami. And he went to school with it.

He went, that's Teddy Bridgewater. Yeah. Yeah. I knew him from the career. But they won the national championship after what we thought, many thought was a Cinderella season last year. They won up last year. They won up the first team.

Aren't they the first team to go a perfect 16 and no? No team has ever won 16 games. I think the most was 15. Clemson 1 15 and I think LSU won 15. Yes. But now you got the college football playoffs. Now, plus they won the Big Ten championship, and they won three games in the college and the playoffs.

Now, here we are. We have a team that's one 16 games. That's crazy. Kurt Signetti, take a bow. What you've been able to do with this program in a short span of two years? Yes. Nobody can boast what they've done.

Look, I understand that there have been some programs of turnarounds, but not like this, Ocho. No, not that fast. Let's talk about the game and we'll talk about the program. Let me get Mendoza's stat. Mendoza was 16 of 27, 186. Klon Black was 17 or 79. Roman Henry was 19 of 60, so they ran the ball 43 times

for a buck 32. Carson Beck was 19 of 32, 232, one touchdown, one in the session. Mark Pletcher Jr. continued his heart, hot streak, 17 carries a buck 12 and two touchdown. He took off that long 57-yard run to get them back in the game. Malacotoni, 10 catchers, a buck, 22 and a touchdown.

Let's take Indiana first and then we'll talk about Miami. Hey. Go ahead. Take it away. Go ahead. That goddamn. Listen, Fernando Mendoza,

Unk, I had an opportunity to see him in high school down here at Columbus High School. He was good. I didn't know he would turn out to be what he is now. Cuban American, obviously his parents are from Cuba, his grandparents are from Cuba. And I'm not sure.

Is he, obviously he would be the first highson winner to be Cuban-American born, right? No. I mean, if you'd be the first, maybe the first Cuban quarterback to actually win also a national championship. I mean, he put that team on his back, when they had to have it. That fourth down, that was four down, that quarterback sneak? Yes, quarterback draw. How in the hell who called?

You're talking about a balls he call? That's signet. Hey, listen, that's the one thing you don't expect. But as far as they have to go to score, I wouldn't expect in that. Oh, Joe, it's fourth and five. You're not even expecting them to go for it. My point is that- Let alone the play that they call.

Listen, listen, that was the great play Mendoza right there. When he got that ball and took off that moment in his effort to make sure I'm going to score by any means necessary and jumping and diving and just, you know, putting his body itself in harm's way, putting the ball in harm's way just to get that touchdown, that let you know how much this game meant to him. to ensure that they did win the game. Oh, Joe, when you, and I tweeted, I said, that call, forget, okay, you go for it on fourth down,

and you're in a dog fight, and you know you really haven't been able to stop Miami in the second half. So you know you're in a dog fight and points it at a premium. Yes. So the mere fact that he went for it, and then the play that he called to go, to get it, I say, man, Sidney, a, Siegs walking around with pumpkins. Heavy. Heavy. That's slightly disrespectful.

As good as the hurricane defense played tonight, obviously they were a bend, but don't break defense. You're going to make some plays, obviously, in the air on the ground. You're going to have some plays, but to call that on fourth and four, fourth and five, and expect to get it as, especially with that front four? I mean, come on, man. That was a great call. That was a gutsy call.

Very, very gutsy. Ocho, for this the distance. For me, it was the distance. Fourth and one, Ocho, I ain't got a problem with that. I get it. I get it, yes. We, we, I think you and I agree with that. Fourth and one, yes.

Ocho, that's fourth and five. Fourth and five. And then the play in which he called, nobody saw this coming because you're like, hey, this ain't no running down. And then for him, he breaks the tackle. He runs into another guy. Now he's got the first out of that point. He said, but I ain't satisfied.

I'm greedy. I'm going to get sweepstakes. I've already got the first. Let me, and he lays out, he knows he's going to take it. And then he braids him back in. He takes the shot in the back. That was a hell of a call. Very.

I don't want to be a coach, but I just know this. I ain't going for it on no fourth and five in that situation. I'm taking that damn field goal. I'm just being honest. I'm taking the field goal. And I think a lot of other people would have taken the field goal Oh, fourth and five. And I'm going to trust my defense.

My defense has played well all night. I'm going to trust my defense and let them finish the game off. But, man, that was nice. Man, those have played really well. God damn. Cooper was balled. He had five for 71. Malachi Tony did what he could offensively.

They kind of kept him bottled up, especially in the first half. He got alive and they put Malachi in position to make some plays in the second half, but it wasn't enough. Carson Beck on that throw. I wish he would let it out, let it go. You got to let it go. Let it out there. It was almost like a cover two look in the sense.

The corner stayed outside knowing he had help on the inside. So the receiver was kind of sandwiched. He was kind of sandwiched in a sense. I'm not sure why Beck chose to go that way. And it's got, oh, Joe, it's got to be one of those. It's got to be over here because that safety is coming now. Oh, yeah, he's coming.

Yeah, he's coming. Because if you, if you just throw it in the line in which he's on, It's going to be a collision and he's going to have to hold on to it. I would have preferred, like you said, lead him, but I would lead him over here. Because if I leave it right here, that safety is going to bust his head. And the simple fact, the DB was very smart. The DB was very smart on that.

At the snap of the ball, he purposely used the sideline as his friend and widen all the way out so the receiver had no choice but to go inside. But release inside, yes. So the receiver reached inside. And it made it, it put, they put the goddamn safety right in position where he wanted to be, The only way the receiver had a chance to make a play is if Beck let that thing go all the way out there. Like similar to like a Randy Moss,

uh, Tom Brady to Randy Moss type throat. I'm letting, I'm just letting as far as I can. And knowing what they do. Yeah. We threw the goal ball 42 and four. The ball was 42 yards, yards, four yards on the sideline. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Y'all had the red line back in? So I don't know, although some people, some people is, it's 44. and three, something. I don't know, but I'm just saying the way we did it, it's 42 and 4. It's the same. 42 yards deep, four yards.

Is that the way? Yeah, it's the same. It's the same. Y'all had the red line too back then? Yeah. Y'all had the red line on? What did you say, Ocho? Y'all had the red line.

You know, we had the red line painted on the practice field to let the receivers know the state that when you stack, you want to stack and stay on that red line, which was four yards from the sideline. Ocho, I don't care what. you release you can release in there by the center all I know is when that when that wouldn't when the ball John's going to let the ball go it's going to be 42 and 4 yeah so if you want to release inside if you want to run a shallow cross and then get back out there I don't care

Mike didn't care Mike say you can release inside you take the best release but at the end of the day I need you 42 and 4 and like you said the job immediately if I get you I'm stacking you I'm not just going to run and then hope no no no I'm will stack your ass because now I can't can't have John to always have to make a perfect throw. Because if you don't stack it and you let that guy be in his hip, there's only one place John can throw it's going to probably be a completion. And it's over here. Over here.

Because if he put it like here, he's going to chop. Yeah. So I want him, kind of like what Marvin Mills did. And if I have to slow down, you're going to have to come through me to get this ball. Yeah. Ocho, I thought they let him play tonight, man. Miami was real handsy. Oh, yeah.

They let them play. I don't think they called a P. I don't. whole night. Maybe I missed something. Listen, they played it fair, though. They played it fair. Not only did they let them play, they were very hansy, and obviously I see that as a part of football.

So they were hansy, but none of the handsiness impeded the receiver in being able to make a play. The time. I thought on some of those stock rots, I was like, oh, my goodness. Hey, hold on, hold on. Did you see at the beginning of the game, number five for Indiana? Yeah, a pawn. Boy?

Boy, hey, he nice. And he's very Dinswell Ward-like. Yeah, he's quick. He got quick feet. Yeah, yeah, I wasn't able to watch him the whole game, but just this technique and what he was able to do in that first play, I was like, okay, they got something out there. I say it's going to be a long night in the passing game.

And I don't have the stats in front of me, but if you look at how many yards the goddamn Hurricane's had at halftime, I understood it was going to be a long goddamn day. Yeah. I mean, they gave up a block putt for a touchdown. You let them convert. I think they converted, let me see. I know they can, I think they converted two fourth downs on that one drive.

Now, I'm not sure how. And I think what, didn't that say that was the first time they had gone for the fourth down in the college football playoffs? So in three games, just about everybody else was going for it on fourth down. They've been so efficient. They didn't need to. They figured to getting everything they needed on first, second and third down. Three of 11. Okay.

I, you went for two, they two for two on fourth down. Indiana, you know, I'm excuse me, UM, three of 11 on third down, Ocho. That didn't help. IU was 6 to 15. They're normally a lot better than that. Penalty is seven from 65, 38, one turnover. And Indiana dominated time of possession, over 36 minutes to a little under 24 minutes for the, for the Keynes.

But when you look at what Signate has been able to do, He came from, if I'm not mistaken, he was on the staff with, you remember now, Ocho, he was on the staff with Coach Saban. He was in Alabama, too? Yes. And everybody come from up under that tree always has success wherever they go. Kirby Smart. Lane Kiffin, Loxley, Dan Lany. Ocho, when you see that, when you see his tree, ain't nobody in college football has ever had a tree like Nick, like Coach Sabin.

Yeah, I mean, you heard what I just said. Yeah. Who else was there? The guy that was at Florida, the head coach at Florida, he was there. If I'm not mistaken, I think he was the receiver's coach. Oh, Christopher was also on that staff. Christopher Toul. Yes.

He was the old line coach. Dan Lannie was a grader assistant. Kirby Smart was the D coordinator. Mel Tucker was the D-B coach. Lockley was there, was the quarterbacks coach. All of them, yes, all of it was there. It's so full. funny everybody that's

Oh, Sarkeesian. Everybody that's come under that coaching umbrella up underneath Nick Saban has had success everywhere they win. Had some type of success everywhere they win.

Oh, Joe, what, look, I understand like some programs have been down, like what Jim Harbaugh was able to do with Michigan, but Michigan has always been Michigan. Yes. We know them from Coach Schembeckler,

although they never won a national championship, but he always had them in contention. Yes. So what Jim Harbaugh was able to do revitalize a once dominant program. Indiana, their first Big Ten title in 58 years, I wasn't born the last time they won a Big Ten championship. The first undefeated season in 80 years.

My mom was three years old. The first Hoosier to win a Hosman trophy. The first ever national champion, first ever number one ranking. And probably Mendoza is probably going to be the first number one. an overall pick from IU. Absolutely. Indiana, National Championship included just eight, four, and

five-star recruits, while Miami had 45, four-and-five-star recruits. If you go look at their program, what they did, they took a lot of guys from lower levels, James Madison, that situation, and brought them in. Guys that are already proven, that's already

played at the college level. Damn, that potential, y'all might be good, I already know I've seen what you did at that level. Come on. Yeah. Because we heard, remember we had Serrano here. He said, hey, I played with him at Jay. Hey, J.M. He said, you know what I'm about.

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Apple Podcasts or whatever you get your podcast. This is the most impressive thing that I've ever seen in college football. How he was able to turn that program around so fast? Yes, because even if you look at Alward, Auburn has had players. They had bow and they had guys Ronnie Brown and Cadillac Williams.

They've had players. Andre Bruce was the number one overall pick in 1988. They've had players. What? And prior to Cam, they had their Hizman trophy winners. Bo won the Hizman. I think they had enough. Bo might have been to all of them.

Maybe Pat Sullivan. I think didn't Pat Sullivan win the Hizman trophy? If I'm not mistaken, I think Pat Sullivan. They might have only two, but I think Sullivan won the Hizman trophy. But we've seen nothing like this, Ocho. This is, this is crazy. Yeah. This is crazy what I you was able to do.

Yeah, in such a short amount of time. And now with the college football playoff, Ocho, well, if such and such had made it, they wouldn't have beat this team. If that would have did this, they wouldn't have beat that team. Well, they beat Ohio State. They beat Alabama. They beat everybody that you put in front of them, they kick the ass. Let's beat them.

Yeah. Hold on. They beat them convincingly. They didn't just sneak by. by it wasn't no controversy. They beat everybody fair and square with no questions. None, none. I don't know, we ain't got nothing to really talk about.

From UM, I thought they got out to a slow start. I thought IU defense was playing a heck of a game. They were putting pressure on back. And then all of a sudden, they couldn't get any more pressure on back. And I'm like, bro, on 3rd and 15, you bring a corner blitz. That's the time you play zone. Now it's 3 and 5, 3rd and 6, you rush 3 drop 8. Huh?

Oh, Joe, I don't care how, I don't care how many you drop. If you don't put pressure on the quarterback, guys going to find dead areas. Hey, every time. Man, it's even easier. Zone, zone, if you got you a very smart receiver, understanding scheme and taxes and what you're trying to do defensively, it's easy to find the zone.

It's just pitch and catch. Pitch and catch. Pitch and catch. Get your ass up for you or get down. One of the other. Get out. This was a heck of a game. This is what Nash.

That ish, the Ash Elamontagat got beat 65 to 7 and all these blowouts that we've had. That ain't what it's supposed to be. No. It's supposed to be this. You're supposed to be on the, I don't know who's going to win this game on Joe. Right.

And matter of fact, you know, I was upset. I wanted to take my son to the game. Obviously, I looked at the tickets, I look at the tickets, everything, $5,000, $7,000. And I chose not to go to the game. I told my son, you know, probably the best seat in the house is probably sitting at home watching it from TV. But for those people that were able to go to the game, regardless of the price, this game today, regardless of how much the ticket was, it was worth the price of admission. Are you sure this game was in Miami? Because I saw way more red than I saw green and orange.

Are you sure? Are you absolutely certain? Are you willing to put this on your 12 kids that this game was in Miami? The game was in Miami, huh? So why are they, can I tell you why? Yes. Can I tell you why? Yes.

Because they priced all the real fans out. They priced all the real fans out. I mean, obviously the fans from Indiana, you know, hey, they know, some people, you know, took their life savings. They took some money they saved up and they came and bought tickets and hoped. Well, y'all ain't got no life savings? I mean, we do, but we ain't fined it on that. Oh, y'all know what the outcome going to be.

Nah, we, we, no. I, you football. Oh, now you're a Hoosier fan all of a sudden. Hey, oh, don't worry about it. Don't worry about it. I just need you, hey, you just, I'm going to, hey, you just go to order that case. You just order to go, that case. What case?

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I want problems. Now, I just said I'm for, I'm going to do it, huh? I don't want no smoke. I tried. I tried to be nice. Chat, y'all see? When you try to be nice, somebody they take advantage of you i just said i'm gonna buy i'm i'm paying my debt do me a fact that i

had to bring you supposed to had already ordered it oh i ain't know i know you and was gonna lose they lost 30 minutes ago i know but it came down to the lad drive and i forgot all about the bet we had but i'm hey i'm i'm taking care of it right now though you know hey because because i i respect you and i respect i bet because all i got is my word and if i ain't got my word i ain't got nothing And I told you, I told you, I'm gonna stick to my bet and I'm ordered me. Let me see it. Let me see it.

Let me see it. Let me see if she ordered in the case right now. Hold on. Because there's about to be two cases orders. The one you order for La Portier and the one, and the one of Miami PD put on me. Oh, now you good. You're good. You good.

Listen, if you do something to me, I'm going to tell Miami PD to let you go. But they're going to catch you anyway because you ain't wearing your mask right. First of all, you owe me still $5,900. Hold on. How? If I'm buying, I'm buying the Laporteur. What? You're gonna stop. I ain't got nothing to do. Hold on. Hold on.

I got an order to La Portier and pay you $5900? You sure do. Yeah, boy, you're gonna have to get that in blood, boy. Okay. Now, hey, I'm buying the La Portier. Hold on, hold on, let me make sure. Yeah, y'all see what this man trying to do? This man tried, this man trying to say,

since he's buying a case, the $5900 is wiped out. But I thought that's what we bet on. The new bet was about the little portuguese. Oh, no, no, no, no. Yeah, that was a new bet. The old bet didn't go away. Okay, okay, okay. So the old, okay, I got you over the 5900.

And I'm going to bring cash to you at the live show in Santa Clara. Mm-mm. I got you. Mm-mm. I know you can't breathe in that, huh? No, I don't know how picking them playing it is. Well, it don't be that kind. It'd be the, you know, it'd be the thin one.

I got the thick one. Actually, I guess I need to call it by its real name before somebody talking about I'm trying to be anti-Semitic. Because if you use the word shiasty, you know, somebody and might say, well, he's being anti-Semitic. It's actually called a bella clover. That is the correct pronunciation of the garment that I had on.

So forgive me, anybody that took offense from me saying the word shiasty, I apologize. Oh, Joe, this bella clobber. No, that's not the way that, um, That's not the way it works. I don't want to, we don't want no problem. Okay, I'm going to educate those on the outside coming in

based on culture and where you're from, certain things are called different names. And what you just had on your head is not a barbaclott. It's a shi. A who? Veloclova. I mean, man, I don't know about no bella, Bella clobber. I know about a goddamn shiksy, though.

I know about a beanie with the eyes out when it's time to go do a drill. You know, that's it? Mm-hmm. Yeah, that's it. All that other stuff they talk about. I mean. I don't, you know, I don't, because you, like I said,

people try to take anything that you and I say or any somebody from, that's not from that. And they try to twist it and try to make more of what it than it is. Right. And they missed that entire point. So anybody that took offense to anything that I said, because, you know, you use that word and people like, oh, my goodness, he's being anti-Semitic. Everything is anti-Semitic now.

So the Bella clava that I had on that, Ocho and I was going back and forth, we were having a good time. So anybody that took offense to that, me using the word shiasty. I did not mean to or intend to offend anyone. And even though that was not my intent, although intent only matters to me

if you took offense to it, I sincerely and humbly apologize. I'm confused. How can a word offend someone on an item, a tearistic item? That should really offend anyone at all. It's a long story, Ocho. Okay, my bad. Ocho.

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Bill's by Sean McDermin. Oh, man, that's your fault, man. Per ESPN research, only four teams in the Super Bowl era have won a playoff game in six consecutive seasons. The 91-96 Cowboys won three Super Bowls. The Patriots, 2011 to 2018, won three Super Bowl. The Chiefs, 2018 to 2024, won three Super Bowls. The Bills, 2020 to 2025, did not play in a single Super Bowl. Now, I remember you and I had a discussion, Ocho.

I posted it. October 13th. I said, Ocho, he and Trump, you looked at me to my uncle. You think so? I said, absolutely. Yeah, yeah, because look at the success he's had. He wasn't able to win, he wasn't able to win a Super Bowl, but he was in goddamn contention every goddamn year.

Two AFC, goddamn titles, six playoff appearances, six playoff appearances, and you still fight him. Look at the team. The Cowboys did it from 91 to 96. They won one playoff game. in six consecutive seasons. They won three Super Bowls. The Patriots did it from 2011 to 2018.

Three Super Bowls. The Chief, 2018 to 2024. Three Super Bowls. The Bills, 2025, did not play in a single Super Bowl. I keep, I can't see. So I got a question for you too. As a matter of fact, you'll chat.

Y'all can chime in as well. Now, you think about how, do you think about the success the Buffalo Bills have had? Obviously, reaching an AFC championship game, making the playoffs in general, right? So you're trying the head coach. Yes.

You're bringing a new voice. You're bringing a new regime. You bring coaches offensively, defensively, and new special team coaches. Now, when you do that, are you further away from winning a Super Bowl? Or do you believe you're going to be closer to winning one since you still have the same supporting cast

and the same goddamn quarterback? They believe the head coach had taken them, and I'd use the term all the time. They believe the head coach is taking them as far as they can go. they believe hold on because here's another scenario what is Sean McDermott's background

defense yeah what has let him down every year in the postseason defense remember he's scored 36 they lose to Baholms they score all these points come playoff time to defense is atrocious now he fired Leslie Frazier

because if I'm not mistaken what Leslie Frazier his de-coordinated when they gave up that lead at a three-point lead with 13 seconds. I think Leslie Frazier was his head coach. Mm-hmm. And he wanted to keep Leslie on,

but he wanted to call the plays. Right. They fired Leslie Frazier. I saw this for miles away. Yeah. I said, boy, if he don't get it done this year and everything has been removed, he was the best quarterback still remaining in the postseason.

And it wasn't the hurdle that's, that's before. They were startled them so many times before, which is the Kansas City Chiefs. I saw this coming. But when I said it, I remember the chat, the chat, oh, you just trying to get clicks. You just say it stuff.

They ain't gonna fire that man. Yeah, you was right, Unk. You was right. Listen, I, listen, I'm, you, was right, I'm talking about you was dead on. You was dead on. And I didn't believe it because- What did I tell you about Harbaugh?

What did I tell you about Harbaugh? But I, you know, I kind of understood that. I could see that after 19 years, obviously, things not going right and losing that game. I could see more Harbaugh getting fired, but I really couldn't see McDermott because of the success that they kept having in the postseason outside of not winning a goddamn Lombardi,

but you're getting there. You're knocking on the door every year. You're knocking on the door every goddamn year. It just keeps closing on you. It ain't good enough, Hocchio. It ain't good enough. And guess what? You've dominated that division

now you're not going to dominate that division no more you got to fight tooth and nail because the Patriots ain't going nowhere no guess what Jacksonville they built to last yeah the Broncos the Chargers the Chiefs if y'all think the Chiefs are going to stay down you fooling yourself oh no absolutely not you saw the enemy went back huh I said I don't know if he's I know he was in they asked the requested to talk to it yeah it only makes sense sense. It only makes sense. It only makes sense to have him come back because they've had tremendous success

when he was there. Hell, he shouldn't have left the goddamn building in the first place. Well, he was not going to get the credit because teams always say they want somebody that call plays. Right. Nick Zirani didn't call plays. Matt Nagy

did not call plays. Mike McDaniel didn't call plays. Guess who else didn't call played and had a job 18 years. Who that? John Harbaugh. He was a special teams coach.

See, Ocho, if I want you, I can make every excuse to get you. If I don't, I'll make every excuse right not. I shouldn't hire you. That's how it works. I like, hey, that applies a lot more than just football. You hear me? You do realize 80% of the people

that get hired, the job is never posted. Hey, man, you know, Hey, Ocho, you know they're hiring down there such and such. Really? Yeah, I mean, you're interested? I'll put a word in for you. Come on, now. You know, they're going to.

See, they're ready to have conversation like this. No, no, no, no, no. You know they're going to take care of each other now. Come on now. Ocho, and I ain't got no problem. Right. But just, oh, but I mean, if you take care of somebody, is that a, and you don't have to go through the process,

is that a D-E-I hire? What you guys have? hate so much. Just curious. Hmm. We ain't got to make it that. We ain't got to make that kind of show. Okay.

I'm all for. Brandon Bean has only drafted two pro bowl players out of the 56 draft picks since he selected Josh Allen, James Cooks, and Dawson Knox. Actually, and check this out on show. Yeah.

Brandon Bean is actually getting a promotion. His new title is president of football operation general manager gaining oversight of the coaching staff. Hey, so he just got a promotion. Yep. It got the same position that I'm, I'm buying for in Cincinnati, basically. Or basically the same position that Matt Ryan has with the Atlanta Falcons.

Correct. Yes. And he's only drafted two pro bowlers in the last. Since he drafted, since he drafted. Right. Josh Allen. Only two. Okay.

So the mere fact that Josh Allen has been doing this. Oh my goodness. Yeah. Oh my goodness. That's terrible. Yeah. That is terrible. Player of operations.

I'm trying to think. I don't, I don't look. Like I said, I didn't advocate for the man to lose his job. I don't want anybody to lose their job. But football is a, is a what has you done for me lately business? And I'm just, I'm just looking at the landscape and I just see a guy just get, I mean, he keeps hitting his head on the, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on the ceiling. Right.

So that's telling. So I, I, I think the Pagulas, Kim and Terry Pagula, they're saying he's taking this team as far as he can take them. Right. I'm not saying this as far as they can go. I'm saying they believe this as far as he can take them. Mm-hmm. A lot of the things that I say with John Harbaugh with Steve Boshati was thinking, we're far away.

We're not getting closer. We're not. That sucks. And you start hearing about the tension between Monk and Lamar and Mar Marr. Yeah. Harbaugh. Yeah.

It always comes from somewhere on, you know, and I know a lot of people got on on Mike pressing about some of the things that he wrote, but obviously he wouldn't have anything too right if he didn't get it from somewhere. It always come from somewhere. Where there's smoke, there's always fire.

Anytime you hear reports, coming from inside the building. And the one person to leak it out and get it out are the reporters. Whether they be. Yeah, but I'm not, look, I'm not surprised. And when he called that time out and when he did all this grandstanding, because he knows in overtime, you don't get a challenge. Everything is challenged upstairs.

So even in that situation, the booth was going to challenge it. For him to call that reporter from the flown. He wasn't trying to, he wasn't trying to talk about the fans. he was appealing to Kim and Terry Pagoole. And in fact, didn't I say that when you said that? Yeah. I say you try to save face because there's no reason to even even consulting a reporter at that moment when you do all the talking you need to do at the goddamn podium. I said it.

I said it another night. Soon as he, I mean, what are he called a reporter for? Okay. Oh, Joe. You try to save him. I get your prime example. Tony Dungeon to the Tampa. They lost the NFC championship game.

Yeah. They lost the. NFC championship game and they made a move because they felt that coach Dunjee had taken that team as far as he can take them. What does he do? He goes to another team

and he takes them to a Super Bowl. And he wins it with Peyton. That's what I'm saying. When I made the thing about Mark Jackson, what does Mark Jackson have to do about this? He was head coached of Golden State Warriors. They had gone to the playoffs several times. But

Peter Gruber and those guys had believed he had taken them as far as he can take them. Then come Steve Kerr. Four championships later, who there it is. Yeah. So let me ask you this. Do you think Harbaugh and Stefansky regret committing to the Giants and Falcons so soon because this is the best court, this is the team that has the best quarterback available. Can they back out or no? I'm just, I'm just asking, can they back out? He probably draw on the contract now. Listen, Harbaugh hasn't signed anything yet.

Wasn't there some language he still? Mike Tomlin. Now we're talking. But I don't think Mike wants to coach anymore. I don't think he wants to coach anymore. I think he wants to sail off into the sunset, even though it's not ending on the terms that he would like. Yeah.

But you know who I can go over there in coaching Buffalo? Who? Someone who knows the game, the ends and outs. Bill Belichick. Nope Who Shannon Emmanuel Sharp

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Don't worry about it What What it's gonna be called Ocho and what It's gonna be called Nightcap Ocho and what I mean

Shit I don't Ocho in the chat That's it's all I need Just me in the chat You gotta have somebody To bounce something off of. Ash. Ash,

gonna take your spot. You talking about yourself for three hours, two and a half, two hours, two and a half hours? No, that ain't gonna work. Oh, you should. But let me, let me take a nap.

I take a nap, but you know I get to talk and won't shut up. But you gotta have somebody. You, look, look, I commend Colin Cowherd because Colin, basically it's him,

but, I mean, yeah, he has Jason McIntyre, but mainly it's just him. Yeah, he just go. Yeah. He just go. I mean, you need some, somebody you need a differing of opinion you need to have somebody else thoughts on something

and that's why you and I work we're we're totally different we see some things out to eye but when we disagree we really disagree I mean like we're diametrically opposed all the way on the other side you know man you in Africa and I'm way in Russia but that but that that works look uh I think everybody got what they want, Harbaugh, one of the situation, he wanted $20 million a year, he wanted to sell the roster, and he only has to report to the bars and the tishes.

Right. 50-50 owners of the Giants. Stafansky, I don't want to doubt Mr. Blank, because Mr. Blank has, he's been great. Right. Look, Mr. Blank, y'all ain't going to make me say nothing bad about Mr. Blank.

Because what he did, he gave Rahim, hired Rahim. He supports. the black colleges, the black college, the black college, the Black College Hall of Fame, he funded that.

All these black colleges, he got Newfield, Savannah State, and all those, he did that. Yeah. So y'all ain't going to make me say nothing bad about him.

So even though he hired Kevin Stafansky, and I'm like, damn, it's not like, you hire, you know, a young coach Belichick, I do believe he could have got someone better. Now, he might make, Stafansky might make me eat my words.

But I believe Clint Kubiak, and I believe, believe some of these other guys are equally deserving. Right. Now, I would like to see Kubiak in Baltimore. With his imagination. Right. With Lamar Jackson, he's going to tack every area on the field,

vertically and horizontally. And he going to run the ball. Mm-hmm. Yeah. What does the ever since go do? What do the Rams do? They're going to run the first. football and they got a guy that can run the football.

And then when Lamar Jackson pulled that ball out, guys are going to be so wide open because they're going to get, they're going to be so tired of Derek Henry. Yeah. I just, I'm, I'm surprised that Stefanski was the second coach hired. I really am, to be honest. Ah, man, listen, it's hard for me to know why.

I'm not sure when he had the interview. The interview must have went extremely well. on him having the last four seasons being losing seasons only winning eight games in the last four years i'm not sure why he was hired but there's something that arthur blink saw in him or mad ryan because matt ryan was in with that's matt ryan that fought president of football operation oh yeah yeah yeah so i'm i'm not sure that falls up under his purview yeah i'm i'm not sure i'm not sure but who Who knows?

Maybe Sean McDermott, look at the level of success that he's had. Maybe he pops back up and now he's in the hiring cycle. All I know is this. I'm a little leery. If your level of expertise is on any side of the ball and you become a head coach and that side struggles. Sean McDermott's defense struggled. Yeah.

If you're an offensive coordinator and your team putting up 15 points a game averaging 300 yards, nah, bro. Nah, uh-uh. No. No. So. Oh, show, we have breaking news. The Titans are working on to finalize a deal

to how 49ers defensive coordinator Robert Sala as their next head coach. Salah spent Monday in Tennessee with the Titans and the two sides impressed each other enough to move forward. We knew something. It was trending in this direction. When they moved it, they said they pushed it back because he was supposed to do the interview via Zoom on Sunday.

They pushed it back. to Monday because they wanted to do this in person. That was the first here. They were kind of leaning towards Robert Salon. So I'm not surprised by this. I think you'll do great defense, but everything is predicated. Who's you going to be your offensive coordinator?

Who's going to be in your young quarterbacks here? Yeah. Because we know he can play, he can dial up defense and he's got a lynch pin. He's got a guy that you can build a defense around and that's Jeffrey Simmons. Yeah. I mean, listen,

you know, I've played around with just the thought of Jeffrey Simmons, you know, being down in Cincinnati, but I think that shit might have sell right now. Yeah, I don't think the Titans are letting Jeffrey go. But Robert Sala is a great addition, a great head coach, a defense of mine, and I'm sure he's going to get those boys playing up to par and up to speed. On the officer end, Cam Ward, being the future of that organization, Calvin Ridley coming back.

I still think they need some more weapons. Pollard is good, but I'm sure they can use someone else. you know, back there in the back field, but they need another receiver. They need another dog to go along with Calvin Ridley, who's coming off of injury, so we're not sure what he's going to look like. They needed another security blanket for Cam Ward out there. So, I mean, the Titans are doing what they need to do. I'm sure Robert Sala going to, I'm not sure how much control and say he has in the roster

and then he wants to pick as far the draft and then offseason acquisitions goes. But they can make a change. They can make it change. They might be the team similar to this year's Carolina and Bears, you know, Bears, you know, choices that I went before the season started on teams to look out for.

It could be Tennessee next year, depending on what they do in the offseason and what they do in the draft. Robert Salo would now be joining his third AFC South team of his career. His first job was with the Texans from 2005 to 2010. And he also spent time with the Jazz from 2014 to 2040. 2016 is the linebackers coach, and now he's the Tennessee Titans head coach. Texas head coach Demico Ryan and New Tennessee Titans head coach Robert Sala, both with former 49ers defensive coordinators are now head coaches in the same division

and will square off twice a year. They came, the Shanahan staff, they were all on staff. I don't know if DeMiko was on the staff with Kubiak when he was in Houston. Because Kuh was the head coach at Houston, and Kyle was his office coordinator. But a lot of these guys with Kyle when he was in Washington, Sean McVeigh, Mike McDaniel, Rahim, all those guys. So I like this. So do you believe Robert Sala is the right hire for the Tennessee Titans? Oh, yeah, absolutely.

Absolutely. I mean, he's a defense of mine. and like you did say they can build defensively great because you have that nucleus down there and Jeffrey Simmons I'm more focused on what they do offensively on I'm more focused on what they do offensively and so in yes I agree I'm with you

yeah and surrounding Cam Ward with more weapons more weapons he could work with with Calvin Ridley coming back off injury we don't know what Calvin Ridley were going to get so I'm hoping with the offseason acquisitions that they do bring in and what they do in the draft is very, very important for the growth of Cam Ward. Defensively, I think they're going to be fine, especially when you get a coach like Robert Sala coming in that building.

I think they're going to be okay. Yeah, I agree. I think they probably need some offensive line help too because Cam Ward was sacked a lot. Where did Cam Ward finish as far as sacks? Because I don't care who your officer coordinator. You can't protect the quarterback. You can't win in this league. Yeah.

It's hard. It's really hard when your quarterback getting punished. Um, Robert Sala. He was tied for the most sacks in the NFL. So that's where you start, Ocho. Mm. You, he got sacked 55 times. And remember, he missed the game, right?

Whether, oh, he got hurt the last game with the season. Okay. So, yeah, 55 sacks. You ain't going to make a living. Yeah. You ain't going to play long. You keep getting 55 times. You like that.

Yeah. I mean, so I was right. I was right. I was right. Okay. solid jet tenure. He had Zach Wilson, he had Aaron Rogers. But I think he needed this year to rehab his image.

Right. Because it's hard to go from the Jets, head coached, just go get another job. Yeah. Most of the time when people leave the Jets, they ain't really going too many other places. Not at all, but I think everyone deserves a second chance if you have to coach at the Jets. If you got the coach of the Jets and that organization that hasn't done anything worth the damn in a very long time, you deserve a second chance.

I think Parcells, Parcells left the Jets and ended up going to coach the Cowboys. Mm-hmm. This would be for coached Belichick was going to be the head coach because he was supposed to take over for coach, Coach Parcells, but he didn't want to do that because he knows the Jets was on some bulljive. and they ended up having to trade a first round pick to get Coach Belichick to go to New England, which was the best first round draft pick the Patriots have ever spent. Mm-hmm.

That is the best draft pick that they've used and it wasn't for a player. It was to get Coach Belichick. Mm-hmm. And it worked out. Perfect, boy. Yes. Get some O-line, get some O-line,

some O-Lyman to protect Cam. I agree. You need another receiver to go opposite of really. Hopefully he can come back to what he was. Probably you get your running back, Ocho probably the third of the fourth round. Yeah.

Got some good ones out there now. And you got to get some defense. You got to get somebody to go along with Simmons. Hey, Ligerious Sneeds should be healthy coming back this year. Yes, yes, yes. You get him to play like he played when he's at Kansas City, you know, get him back right?

Man, they should be fine. Oh, yeah, Rex Ryan went to the, Rex Ryan went to the, of the bills. But Rex, Rex had success. Rex, what, went to back-to-back MC championship games? Mm-hmm.

Because remember that year, he knocked out Peyton and he knocked out for a time. And they ended up losing the Pittsburgh. Yeah. At the L.C. championship game. That's when they had that crazy defense over there with a Jess.

Oh, yeah, they had Crowe and Revis, Mark Scott. Hey, that, they had a, Mohammed Wilkinson. Hey, that front, that front four they had there? I think Calvin Pace was on that team too. Boy.

David, uh, what was the linebacker? David, whether David Baker, David, how, they had a liebacker number 52.

I don't remember. They had some, they had some, they had some thuppers. They had some thuppers, and they could get up, they could get after the quarterback. Yeah.

They was running the football with Thomas Jones and those guys. And Damien, Damien Woody and Mango, rest his soul. They did a great job of mauling people. But the Jets, the Jets, do we know who the Jets hide? Oh, Eric Glitton is still there. He's still there. He can't have another season like he had last year.

No, no, he can't. Because you know, you know the lease is short. You know the least, the least is short. You see what happened with Rahim. You see what, hell, McDermit, I mean, Harbaugh, and they want instant gratification. They want instant success, and that's not what you're going to get. I mean, those owners over there, especially with the Jets, you got to learn patience.

You got to learn patience because in order for the head coach to have success, you got to have the product on the field. Right. You think about all these coaches that are having success and winning all these games, and, I mean, you say, oh, it's coaching. But coaching, you can only coach so much. You still need the players to be able to perform. You still need the players to be able to execute the X and O's.

The better the players you got, the ease it is the goddamn implement a game plan and when it's time to play somebody. I agree. Now you got players, you got to do certain things that help them get open. You got to hide their weaknesses. And that's difficult, man. Yeah. Then you get exposed as a coach because look what I'm working with.

And the coach can't say that. It's, but I think the thing is, Ocho, is that you oversell to get the job. You make all these promises. I can coach this guy. I can get so much better than this and blah, blah, blah. And then the owner's like, what happened? You said you could, bro, I was just saying that. I was selling myself to you.

I really could do it. Not with what you got. Mm-hmm. Hey. You know, that's had me when you first meet somebody, uh-uh. You know, you're not meeting the actual person. You're meeting their representation. I'm trying to put my,

I'm trying to put my best foot forward to make sure I don't lose the opportunity. I want this job as a judge. Actually, that's your agent. They meet your agent. Oh, yeah. Because that person is telling you everything what's so great about the person

that you really haven't met yet. Come on now. We're going to have this conversation on later that time. But I'm just saying, when you meet somebody, that's the agent. Well, that's it. Because you know how an agent sell?

Yeah. Whether you're in Hollywood, whether you are football, basketball, fall or whatever the case may be. Your agent will always tell you great things about said individual that's looking to get this job. It's all about

representation. And anytime you meet someone new, you are meeting a representative. Always. So, this show contains information subject to, but not limited to personal takes, rumors, not so accurate stats, and plenty more. What's up, man? This is your boy,

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