Club Shay Shay - Nightcap Hour 1: Fernando Mendoza LEADS INDIANA to NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP vs MIAMI + John Harbaugh's DEMANDS for next CONTRACT + Kevin Stefanski INTERVIEWS for RAVENS HC + Vikings are REGRETTING letting Sam Darnold WALK

Episode Date: January 10, 2026

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson react to the Indiana Hoosiers blowing out the Oregon Ducks to advance to the National Championship to face the Miami Hurricanes, John Harbaugh could command a hefty contract from his next team, and the Baltimore Ravens have interviewed Kevin Stefanski for head coach and much more! Subscribe to Nightcap presented by PrizePicks so you don’t miss out on any new drops! Download the PrizePicks app today and use code SHANNON to get $50 in lineups after you play your first $5 lineup! Visit https://prizepicks.onelink.me/LME0/NI... 11:43 - Indiana beats Oregon27:02 - John Harbaugh’s Contract Demands37:03 - Ravens completed interview with Kevin Stefanski48:28 - Sam Darnold’s Year over Year stats (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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but you'll see my handiwork in just a few moments. as you watch the Indiana Hoosers trounce the Oregon Ducks by the score of 56 to 22. It really wasn't a ballgame. Fernando Mendoza was sensational. He had more touchdowns than incompletion. 177, 5 touchdowns. That is Chad Johnson. He about to be on a live.

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get that information till you at a later day and time tickets for the super bowl show in san francisco but went on sale this morning. Cityboxoffice.com slash nightcap. The cityboxoffice.com slash nightcap. The show will be Thursday night, February the 5th, at the Herbs Theater in San Francisco. So, Bay, yay, yay, show up, show out. Before we get to talk about this ballgame,

because there wasn't a whole lot to talk about, I want to show you something, chat. This is why I'm wearing this get up. And this man, has some nerve this morning. You want to send a special shout out to a good friend of mine, Shannon Sharp. And the nightcap show, family, no way.

I'd be able to treat myself if I paid $59,000 that I owe unc. Yeah. So now, sheistee Shea got to show up. I don't, chat, I just want you to know I did not want to revert back to the way I was. I had tried to get out of these mean streets.

or Glenville. Right. But every time I try to get out, somebody pulled me back in. And it just so happened to be, he pulled me back in, so I don't have no choice. So y'all forgive me.

Father, forgive me for I'm about the sin. Just know it didn't have to come to this. Right. This could have been prevented months ago, weeks ago, years ago, this man refused to pay Uncle his money. So unc sent me to deal with it. Okay, okay.

So this is like the alter ego. Like this is the auto ego, um. I don't know no, um. A shy-st-ish, a shy-ish, I like that. This shy-ish-ish-ha. Yeah, I like, I like that. Hey, that's dope right there. But listen, you don't understand in what I was saying.

Obviously, it's still my birthday today, you know. I thank God for allowing me to C-58. And outside of thanking God for not only allowing me to see 50s, I had to thank you, the opportunity in which you gave me, the platform to be able to be able to treat myself. The nightcap family, obviously we have a lot of fans, a lot of supporters, but I'm going to talk about Ash and everyone else behind the scenes who I don't get to thank enough for allowing me to be able to get this purchase. That's what I was trying to say. So it was more of a thank you to you and the nightcap family, because if it wasn't for you, these blessings would not be. bestowed upon me.

Hey, think about, think about, think, just think what would God do in this situation? Uh, Chad will be making an appearance, a special appearance on the first 48 next week. Make sure y'all tune into the episode. The clock doesn't start starting into the first 48.

Dung-dum. I can't believe this, chap, that Unc had to go get shy-ish shape, pull him out. Mm-hmm. Because this man, he bought this life. He bought this life, man. You don't understand, bro.

Hey. Y'all don't understand my paper means something. And y'all know I'm short of paper as it is. So I got to do it. I got to do it. Sometimes you just got to stand on principle. Right. The principal, right.

Hey, hey, the principle, what you mean? principal like in high school? Yeah, it's the principal. It's not the fact that 5,900 is a lot of money. It's the fact that this man doing a Broadway play in my face. This man got a controller. I sent, I had my homeboy sent him a picture of a controller.

And he texts my homeboy back and said, what's this? He said, you play it with Aunt Money. So I, I, I, I, I wasn't playing. I've just, you know, God is blessed me to be able to do some things that I've never been able to do before. And I would just, you know, being thankful, not just to you and the night care family, but God will.

We're gonna spend the slide, that's all. It is what it is. The money don't even matter. Now, you good. We good, we good, we good, eh, one thing about it, my grandma always say, boy, as long as somebody owe you, baby, you'll never be broke. Well, I'm gonna let you tell the man that.

Which man? The man that you go go meet. Make sure you got his ties with you. Oh, 10%? Okay, okay. Okay. I got you. I hate that it had to come to this.

But, you know, I got you. If you need me, I got you. I hate it. I had to come to this too, man. I mean. Yeah. And you know, you know,

I supported La Portier yesterday, too. I would drink and I bought that bottle from ABC. ABC looking down here in Miami now. Didn't slide earlier. He let you celebrate his birthday. He ain't happened to do that. He could have pulled up on you. Because I know some of the sponsor that you'd be at.

You feel me? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I didn't want to roll up on you. You in Cambodia, I thought that was gangster.

Yeah. Okay. Okay. You know she keeps that thing on that. So what I've said is, stop playing with me. You feel me? I got you.

Stop playing with me. So when my name comes up, put some speck on it. Right. Put some speck on my name. Okay. Wait, respect or respect. Put some speck on my name.

Okay. We finish and we done it. I like the way you left. I got you. You got you. My bad, my bad. I got you though. Like, like, real shit, real shit. I'm gonna tighten you up. But oh, hey, when you come down to mind me, I can show you give you a drive, though. I'm just saying, I know you like sports cars. Man, I'm gonna have to roll up on old boy, bro. You know what I said? Because I know spots that he'd be hanging out at. Yeah, I started to pull up on you. I thought I'll say that's gangster. Don't do him like daddy with his old, he was Cambodia on his birth.

Yeah, I'm saying she got she got a license to carry so you got to be careful when you do that, huh? Yeah, I'm with you when you're right though. You're with a deal with a deal, Chair. I'm gonna get you right. I'm gonna square you up. Y'all feel me. I'm gonna square you up though. Real talk, real talk.

Because I didn't, I didn't did everything I wanted to do. The pool, the pool done. I did the inside, you know, I got, I got my dream, not really a dream car, you know, but I got some that I feel. I felt I worked extremely hard for to where I can enjoy myself and, you know, ain't nothing else I got to buy. So I'm going to slide that to you quick in a hurry

because I don't want no problem. It's 2026. The year just started. It's too late for that, man. I'm going to turn that slip in. I'm going to turn that slip in. You know John Wick, once they put that,

what they catch that, hey, once they turn that chip in, ain't no turning back. Right. No. No, ain't nothing we can do. She ain't coming. Oh, sheik's coming

I hated to have to come to this because they wasn't supposed to get to this. You're right. Uncle said he tried to handle this thing amical. Behind closed door, hey, you're going to break it off. You can do it to a couple of installments, but you refused to do that.

So he had to put that. Yeah, but hold on, I many times, and I'm sure the people that watch the show, they have seen me many times ask you for PayPal. Apple Pay, Zelle, I mean, all these different, all these different apps, which would allow me to transfer that money to you expeditiously. Hey. And you chose not to.

Hey, bro, when 57 Savage come, it is what it is. 57 Savage? What? 507 Savage? Hey. Pick the seven Savage roll up on you. It is what it is. You feel of me?

Hey, 57. Hey, I like that one, boy. That's a good one right there, boy. That's a good one right there. 57. Okay. I like that. Oh, shite-s-shaid, boy.

Yeah, that's a good one, boy. Indiana Hoosier blow out the Oregon Ducks by the score of 56 to 22. The Hoosier will face now there's only two. Indiana Hoosier will face the Miami Hurricanes for the national championship on January the 19th. Indiana has beaten his two playoff opponents by the combined score of 94 to 25. The blowout started early in the game. DeAngelo Pons, who came on the show earlier this year, picked off Devonte Moore on the first offensive series of the game,

returned at 25 yards. Oregon tied the game up. Moore showed me something because he threw a pick, and then he came back and answered. And then IU went on a 35 unanswered run, point run, and that was really the ball game. Just too many turnovers. Indiana is just far too good.

They're a very well-coached team. Offensive line, defensive line took the ball game over. And those receivers, they don't have big names, but they catch everything. They high point everything. This is a really, a really, really, really well-coached football team. They're really disciplined.

And I know everybody's talking about the youth's back, but you got their hands full, Locho. Oh, yeah, absolutely. Not only do they have a handful, So, University of Mind, what we saw from them when they played last night is they had turnovers. Yes. They had turnover. And this is the exact same thing.

I felt when it came to this game, it would come down to not only the quarterback playing Dante Moore and Brother Mendoza, but it would also come down to the turnovers. And long behold, the first game, the goddamn outright, quick out route, mind you, he already in the gun. So the goddamn DB is not moving. Oh, Joe, you came on the ball, man. He throws the, he throws the lane, throws it behind. You see him rotate, safety, safety shoes back, they rock, go down to the other side. That's man free.

Uh-huh. He's off, he's cluing. He don't even get out of his back panel. Didn't even budge. Didn't they put him in motion? No, I'm, I don't think, I'm not. Or whether he's a slot. Because if you think about, because he tried to run a speed,

yeah, he tried to run a speed out. Speed out, yeah. And DB Pons was just, he took one step and drove. You ran the out and up. You said, but you ran the out. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Mm-hmm.

It's unfortunate. Carson Baker is going to have to play not, not saying play perfect. He's going to have to be able to damn near perfect. You can't, you can't turn the ball. They put so much pressure on your own both sides of the ball, Ocho, they got a front. They dominate both lines of scrimmage. And that's what, that's what the U tries to do.

So it's going to be. Irmovable object, irresistible force. Something's got to give. Yeah, absolutely. Hey, uh, I remember watching Mendoza down here in Miami. God damn it. I remember watching Mendoza down here in Miami, Unk, at Columbus High School. I didn't know Mendoza would be what he is today.

I had no idea he would be this good. If you look at some of the throws he was able to make, some of the throws that that attribute to some of the quarterbacks that let you know they're going to be good. He's throwing a goddamn comeback route off the left half to the wide side of the field on the money. His ball placement all game long was phenomenal on those same plays with Dante Moore through interception at the beginning of the game. Every outrouty through whether it was on the short side of the wide side of the field, the ball placement was perfect. Throwing receivers open. Even if they were covered, the ball.

placement back shoulders high the receiver's oh cho you see how they're high point the ball oh yeah yeah yeah yeah but it's only where his guy can catch it mm-hmm it's gonna be a completion or it's going to be incomplete he's not going to be picked and no balls even came

close to getting picked uh he was he was sensational all night long man I'm looking at coach signette on the sideline if he uh if he's like this and they're winning the ball game I hate to see him when he gets upset.

Yeah, hey, he don't show no kind of emotion. He got his hands on his heel. I'm like, are you happy? Hey, the camera pan to, hey, the camera pan to him after a touchdown, he showed nothing. The sideline going crazy behind him. Stone cold killer face. That's it. That's it.

But Mendoza was very job. Hey, the job is not, the job is not finished. Go ahead. Go ahead. What you saying? No, I was just saying the job is not finished. That's, that's the mentality and the mindset in his body language. That's what it showed.

The job not finished. There's no reason for me to be celebrating. Oh, yeah. You can celebrate that. I mean, you can't get to the job if you didn't finish this job. I mean, you got to all that means you have another task. It's kind of like when you're growing up, if you grow up on the farm, there's always something for you to do.

You can move the animals from one pen to another. You can grind feed. There's always something for you to do. But you have must finish said task first before you move on to another task. So, right, win the Big Ten. Okay, get to the Big Ten Championship. He won that.

He won the first, you know, get a buy and then they win the next game. So now you advance to the Chick-fil-A Peach Bowl. Now the ultimate, you get to play for the National Championship, something you've never won. You've never been that situation. And they're a good team. He's an unbelievable. This might be, I mean, they might need to do a story.

Because we've never seen a turnaround happen this quick. Not what a team that's been there. this historically bad. I mean, they've been historically bad. I'm talking about historically, historically. I'm talking about like bad news bears bad. Hold on. The funny thing about it, Indiana is the basketball school.

This is a basketball school. When is the last time we've seen the basketball school dominate like this, the entirety of a season? No, we have it. The entirety of a season and beat everyone. I'm not, I'm not sure if a lot of people, if they were gamblers, if they were betters and they bet on college football, how many people had Indiana to be in this position throughout the season?

How many to be able to make it, to be undefeated, to be playing in a national championship in Miami. Before Peyton Manning got to Indy, they were known for basketball in the Indy 500. Right. Then Peyton Manning come and then all of a sudden they got excited about football. And he gave him a reason to be excited. Yes.

But this story, IU football, and to be in this position, one win away from winning a national championship and had to go through the gauntlet because it's a little bit more difficult now because now you have 12 teams, you have to win multiple games in order to get to a national championship.

Once you win, you know, you win your division, you go to your championship, the said division, you win that. And normally up until a few years ago, you play for the national championship. You rank one or two, you play for the national championship. It's not like that anymore.

You get a buy. So you have to win three games to win a national championship. championship after you go through your regular season after you get to your conference championship now you got to win three games in order to be so we'll know the real it ain't no ain't no more man such and such should have been in there and if they'd have been in there they'd have done this now you win three games you to yeah oh yeah you got you got ample opportunity you got ample time you get man this i'm sick of this camera you got you got you got ample opportunity to be able to prove yourself

and your worth if you make it to the playoffs and you make it to the the National Championship. Hey, the fact that Mendoza gets to come back home and play in front of his home crowd in front of the place where he's from, you know? I mean, it's going to be dope. But listen, Mendoza going to have his handful and the hurricane going to have his hands full.

I know the pressure is on Carson's Ben. Oh, yeah. I know the pressure is on him and all those interceptions, and for one, the turnover. You can't turn the ball over. And they have to capitalize. If those opportunities themselves defensively,

you got to catch some intercepts in this game. Now, you can't. You're going to have to. We saw what happened, Ocho. Mendoza put the ball on the ground twice, and they didn't get neither one of them. Neither one, yeah. And they ended up getting points out of both of them.

I didn't understand, Oregon, okay, you're already backed up. You take a delay of game penalty to get backed up even further, and now you let the guy come in, they only rush two guys, and you let one of the guy block the pun. Yeah, I'm trying to figure out of you. I'm saying, hold on, you already backed up. Why would you take a delay a game? This game

Basically once again, it was 7-7. That was the last time this game was interesting. I thought I was going to go back and forth, especially after the interception and Oregon. I mean, Oregon got the ball and they went right down the field, right down the field at will. I'm like, oh, okay, you know what? This is going to be a long night.

And it's going to be a scoring fest. Excuse me, back and forth. Yeah, I was. was fooled um i was later i was led a straight organ could get any pressure on mendoza couldn't he was pinpointed he was pinpointed accurate sarah becker uh those guys or cooper junior i mean he was just spreading around you get a hey you get a catch you get a catch mhm hell they bought ponds in let him catch a pass yes uh hey boy these are these are the um both quills

quarterback in this game, Mendoza is projected to be number one. Moore is projected to be number two. Mm-hmm. I mean, I can see why. Yeah. I can see why. And obviously, I wasn't that high on Mendoza, obviously because you watch Indiana play,

but I didn't know he was this good. Now that the spotlight is on him, it's a pressure situation, and you have to show up when it matters most. And he played phenomenal. He played phenomenal. So obviously, if he's going to the Raiders, based on some of the throws I saw him make the night, Well, you put some pieces around the quarterback I saw tonight at the next level.

He's going to be all right. You better put some offensive line around. He definitely will be all right. Yeah, that, that's part of the pieces too. The most important, the most important at that. You got to get him a receiver. Just one, just one to go with Brock Bowers. He's going to be all right.

I agree. I agree with you. Yeah, this guy, I mean, we were hoping for what we got last night, a very interesting ball game. Excuse me. I got to hiccough. It was interesting. for about seven minutes.

That's about it. Seven minutes. And that was it, Ocho. And it was a blowout from there. I mean, once it got to the half, it was, it was 35, seven it to half. Go ahead. Oh, hey, hey, chat. And it was 35, seven to half.

At that point, I tweeted, you know, is it okay for me to take a nap? Or will Oregon have an opportunity to come back? And obviously it's, it's called us football, anything can happen. You know, momentum shifts, the pendulum shifts at some point, and another team catches fire. And, you know, at no point did Oregon threat or even have a chance to actually come back in this game? And, you know, it sucks. I thought it would have been similar to the situation of the game last night who was very exciting with Hill. You didn't

want to blink. You didn't want to leave your seat to even go to the bathroom because you might miss something. That's what I thought this game would be after the way it started out, even with the interception at the beginning of the game and seeing Oregon respond and go right down the field and score. It just didn't happen. It just didn't happen. Indiana looked very good. Most of these games, especially games of this magnitude when it comes to when teams are of equal value and quality and skill, you know, the games are one in the trenches. The games are one up front and that's exactly where Indiana dominated on both sides of the ball up front.

And so it's going to be a good one. It's going to be a good challenge for the hurricane. It's going to be a good challenge for Indiana. You know, because I think the winner of this game is going to be whoever wins the Battle of the Trenches and also whichever quarterback makes the least amount of mistakes. And that's who wins the game. I would love for the University of Miami to win,

but I'm also cheering for, you know, Fernando Mendoza in Indiana because, you know, he is here. He's a hometown Florida kid, so I'm excited. I'm excited for the game. Yeah, I mean, watching Mendoza probably, I've watched them a lot more down the stretch. Excuse me, as Indiana, you got closer and closer, and it looked like they were going to be on a collision course with Ohio State and the Big Ten championship. You knew they were going to get into the playoffs whether they won the Big Ten championship or not

because they had been ranked number two for such a long period of time. Excuse me, I'm sorry, Chad, I got the hiccups. But with that being said, watching him, I'm like, okay, yeah, I. But watching it. against Ohio State when he really needed to make throws, watching him how just blitzed Alabama, how they just blest Oregon. Yeah.

The Keynes better be on their best behavior, Ocho. Yeah. They're going to be all right now. The boys are going to be ready. This kid is on a Joe Burrow-type run. You remember what Joe Burrow did? I like the comparison. I like the comparison.

Obviously that's 2019 Joe Burrow was elite. based on the numbers he put up that season, going to the natty, winning the natty, but the numbers he put up was unbelievable. So you understood when it's certain times, you can look at a quarterback in college, and you can tell if what he does in college are going to be able to translate to the NFL.

And you knew watching Joe Burrow, no matter where he went, as bad as the Bengals might have been, he's going to have success wherever he goes. Well, you look at what he got, and they got one of his receivers that he had in college. They got Chase to join it. Yes.

You look at Chase had like 20 touchdown. Jefferson had like 17 touchdown. They had Marshall. They had Thaddeus Moss. They had Clyde. It was hilarious. They had the best offensive line in football. They had a defense with Queen and Stingley Jr.

And all those guys. From a talent standpoint, I.U doesn't have that. Now, do I think IU is maybe have the coaching advantage? Yeah. Yeah. I like Ed Orgion. I like him, but Signet is upper level. You can make a case that he and Kirby Smart,

and he are the best two coaches in college football. Ryan Day is in that, but to do that, what he's done with that team, I mean, look, going to Ohio State and take it over that. Come on, you're going to get blue-chup guys. Going over to Georgia and taking over that, you're going to get guys. Go take over Alabama or something.

You go, bro, that's India. That's IU. Yeah. Is it safe to say coaching yet he's done he's done more with less? Yeah for sure. In a sense? Okay. I think they go on that.

That's dope. Ocho, John Harbar contract demands for the next team. This is a, whoa, whoa, wait, wait, wait, that's news to me. A coach can have demands. I mean, a lot of times they do have demands, a lot of times they don't become public, but they have demands. Oh, shit. According to ESPN's Cleveland, Tony Grossey,

the full list of demands are 20 mil per year, a 10 million staff budget, total authority over the roster, and would like to select his own GM. That's not a bad thing, especially for somebody like Harbaugh that knows what he's going to need. If I'm going to Cleveland, I know what I need in this room to be able to succeed.

I know what I need in this room to be able to compete in the AFC North, let alone compete week in and week out in the NFL. I'm a Super Bowl winning coach. And these are the things I need to have a competent team and also getting me a quarterback to be able to compete. Something you guys have not been able to do for umpteen years. I think if I'm not mistaking, only Andy Reed makes $20 million a year. Right.

What, six Super Bowl of pairs, there's three wins, six seven straight AFC championship games. We are to understand why he's making that kind of money. We'll see. Teams that are desperate here is a proven commodity. He's done a great job. But like I said, you see what he wants. He wants control over the.

This is why Jerry's never going to get a coach. I mean, I think Shottie is doing a great job. Now, if they can build that defense, because Shottie can call play, Dak loves him, office loving, is very friendly. But you're not getting a coach like this to coach in Dallas because you've got no safe.

All you do is have that type. I'm the head coach of the Dallas Cowboys. Jerry's going to put who he wants on that team. Jerry's going to draft who he wants. You're not going to have any say so. He says, I won't total. He said he didn't say some like to have some input. He says total authority over the final 53.

Yeah. I think they're going to give it to him because it's almost in a situation where the Cleveland Browns are not only desperate for a head coach that wants to turn the culture around in general, but it takes you back to the same. situation with Deshaun Watson where they were desperate to have a quarterback who had done what he had done previously with the Houston, Texans, oh, you mean to tell me we get to get this in our building? Well, you know what we're going to do? We're going to throw everything in the

kitchen sink at them and hoping we get just that. Now, we know things didn't pan out things and work out the way, you know, we thought they would have. I'm sure the Browns would have liked to. I'm sure DeShon Watson would have liked it to work out too that same way. Now you have opportunity with John Harbaugh to get a winning coach. One that needs full control because he understands what he needs as a team to be able to compete. So it's going to be, I think the Giants is the best situation because they have the most stable quarterback situation. They have a defense.

You know, you got a Brian Burns. You got a Dexter Lawrence. You just took Abdul Carter with the third pick in the draft. You probably need, you know, some corners. You definitely, you know, build an offensive lineup. But I don't think they're going to stand padded receiver either, I thought you. I thought Rondell Robinson had a great year.

Hey, he did. He showed what he can play. But I think they're going to probably go get, try to beef up that position. Look, I agree with you. I think somebody's going to give him back. I think it's going to be the Giants. Yeah. Because you want, first of all, it ain't that much.

I mean, because what you call it? The Ravens is on the hook for like 13, 14 of it, so you just got to add six to the pot. That's it. You're good. You're good to go. You just got to add six to the pot. How was it with this contract extension that he signed this March?

Because he had just signed an extension, oh, I think a three-year extension. Right. So, but I've said it once. I've said it again, and hopefully it's the last time I have to say it. on the hook for 34 million, Ocho. So that makes a say he was making 17. You ain't got to pitch in with three.

Yeah, that's not a little chugger change right now. So he's going to want a five-year deal, $263, $66 million. Because that three, because y'all, y'all doing it three the first two years, and then I'm going to need that $20 to the next three. 10 million dollar staff budget, because you're going to have to pay office and defensive coordinator real, you know, a million, million, five. depending on who you get as a coordinator you might have to go all the way up to two.

But as I was saying, I think John Harbaugh is a very good coach. I just think that the players need to hear another voice in that locker room. I think his message need to be conveyed to another group of ears in the locker room. It happens sometimes. It happens.

Yeah. Bro, think about the Patriots moved on from Coach Belichick. Yeah, after 20. Yeah. Nobody in the history of the game has had a stretch of success like the Patriots had from 2001

until 2019. Nobody. Yeah. Nobody. If Mr. Crab don't win another game, he should be able to say, you know what, hey, I don't care nothing by winning no more. I'm good.

Because he bought the team. They went to the Sue Bowl in 1996. They lost to the Packers. but they went like to a couple of years after he purchased the team. Mm-hmm. How many divisions consecutive times they won the division, like 13, 14, 15 times they won the division. Multiple.

Nine times they go to the end of, they're going to the Super Bowl. Man, sometimes it just, you just need a, you just need a different voice. I need a new voice, Ocho. Yeah. Now all of a sudden, what Mike Preston,

everybody, well, we don't believe we don't like Mike Preston. He don't have no credibility. Now all of a sudden, that thing looked very prophetic. Yeah, absolutely. But, um, people have to, they don't understand. They have to put their fandom aside. They have to put their fanning aside and say, you know what? We don't like this individual that right for this specific news outlet because X, Y, and Z was

said in the past or X, but anytime something that is written by reporters that are not inside that building is coming from inside the building. People need to understand that always. It always happens like this. So anytime you see things written like this and the first thing you say, oh, who is he? He's not credible. Yes, he is. That stuff is purposely leaked and it's always to start a small fire.

And that's that small fire at some point. It turned into. If I don't like you, Ocho, you could give me the winning numbers to the lottery and I wouldn't do it. If I love you, you tell me if you go outside, you're going to get hit by back truck. I'm going outside. We see that today with the man at the very top in this democracy. Yes.

I don't know how much long it's going to be a democracy, but it is currently. You see, it doesn't matter what he says. It doesn't matter what he does. They love him. Right. It doesn't matter. You, I, so because they didn't like Mike Preston, they automatically disregarded it.

I bid damn. Guard it. Yeah. Todd Muggan said he and Lamar didn't have the best relationship. If I'm not mistaken, didn't Mike speak to that. Yeah. What normally happens is that the offensive coordinator is the buffer between the player and the head coach. It's not normally the other way with the head coach is the buffer between player and offensive coordinator.

It was a situation. I lived it in Denver. Mike Shanahan was the offensive coordinator. coach Reed was the head coach. John Elway was the quarterback. Well, he said he don't like that. He said, well, this is what we want to do. Well, he said he don't want to run that.

You don't see. You got to have a goal between. Yeah. Yeah. That ain't going to work on. Not for long. That ain't. Because you're going to have to remove one of them.

And it definitely going to be a player. Not a player that magnitude. No. They was, uh, they thought about trading. They thought about training John. They were going to trade into Washington. Yeah. That's when that's when Mr. B's like, I'm done with this.

Right. I put a stop with that. But I think Harms would be great in Washington. I mean, excuse me, in New York. Now, that's not to stop other teams, but he knows in order to win, you've got to have a quarterback. You're not going to win a Super Bowl like you did,

before. When you get Flacco, he gets hot down the stretch, and he plays great for four or five games, and then you have an outstanding defense to back him up, that's over. You're not winning like that. You need that guy. The Ray would announce today that they have completed an interview with Kevin Stafansky for their head coach position. Ocho, could you see Stafansky and Lamar being a good fit?

Hmm. I mean, obviously what happened was Zafansky in Cleveland, it leaves a bad taste in my mouth, but I'm able to compartmentalize in a sense and seeing him over there, you know, in Baltimore with Lamar and knowing that's a fancy, he's an officer of mind, right? If I'm not mistaken. Now, listen, he's an offensive mind, so I'm not sure how that process would work.

I know some of the games they were able to play with Chador, and in that environment, he won't be able to play those same games with Lamar over in Baltimore. I think he could have some success again doing what he does in Baltimore. I still just don't see. I think more so, I think Lamar in that offense will be okay

and will be fine once Lamar is back healthy. I think there still will be issues, even if the fancy is the head coach, when the issues on the defense having to address. Yeah, the issues on the defense aren't addressed. It still won't be the same thing. Everything. First of all, for me, if I'm Brian Flores,

that's a lateral move. Why would I go be the defensive coordinator somewhere and go to Dallas, go to Baltimore? I'm still a defensive coordinator. I want to be a head coach. I'm not interested in doing anything lateral. I'm trying to go up. I ain't trying to go like this, Ocho.

So they're probably going to interview Brian Flores. But you got to get, look, you got Lamar Jackson. You can hire a defensive-minded coach. As long as you have a great play caller, You see Seattle, McDonald, and then he has Clint Kubiak. Yes. You can be that. Everybody, look, first of all, everybody ain't going to be Sean McVeigh.

Everybody ain't going to be Kyle Shanahan. Everybody can't be Andy Reed. That's a lot to be the head coach. I oversee everything and I call plays. Call the plays, yeah. You know, Shottie, Brian Shottonheimer, he does that. But most of the time, you know, hey, I delegate it. Hey, you see Nick Sariani.

You see Dan Quinn. And you see a lot of these coaches, hey, I'm a delegate. Hey, you do that and make sure everything's okay. But to delegate and to be able to call plays, that's a huge, huge responsibility. Look, they're going to look at, if I'm then, I'm looking at Cliff Kingsbury. But Cliff doesn't run to run to football enough.

I think that's what him and Dan Quinn's butted head about. Right. You can't, hey, you can't keep exposing your quarterback like that. Like that, yeah. You got Derek Henry. He calls him. Yeah, he calls him and get hurt. Yeah.

And also, you know, now everybody will have this kind of, this luxury, but Coach, but John Harbon had been there so long, he didn't have no intermediary. He only talked directly to Steve Bishotti. Right.

So everybody don't have that. Andy, Andy probably got it like that. Sean probably got it like that. Yeah. Those coaches that are, Yeah. Yeah.

Those coaches are not having to have it like that. But the thing is with, it doesn't matter who you get to call defensive play. They got to get better players on the Ravens defense. That defensive line got to get better. They got to get better, Ocho. Lineback of the corner. We went through the stats. They didn't generate pressure.

The back end can no longer hold up like they once could. And it's shooting fish in a barrel. I get it. Because a lot of times, and we've seen this before. is that when you have a guy like Lamar, you forget you got Derek Henry behind him. Okay. Lamar's okay.

Lamar just wants to win. Yeah. And in a given game, Derek Henry presents the best opportunity for us to win. Y'all think Lamar going to be upset about his stats? Absolutely not. Go back and look at the first report that we won. Look at John's stats.

Maybe 150 yards and a piece. kick. You win that one game it changed the way people perceive you. Whether you play good, bad, or different. Go back and look at Tom Brady's first game in the Super Bowl. But that was all defense, huh? That was all defense. I think the thing, look,

they've got to get somebody that knows how to coach an offense that Lamar can succeed in that he got Derek Henry behind it. Right. I thought Todd Monkin did a great job of coordinating this thing. I mean, think about it. Derek Henry gets there his first year. He goes over 1,900 yards, almost, what, 17, 18 touchdowns, follows up with another almost 1,600 yards, another 14, 16 touchdowns.

Lamar goes MVP, 41 and 4, gets Nick this year. I think that had a lot to do with it. And when he came back, he wasn't himself. And so, but they're probably. problem was they couldn't finish. They get leads. They just couldn't close the deal, Locho.

Yeah. And so, you know, Steve's like, you know what, and I know, you know, look, it's reported that the front office like, no, Steve, but Steve, like, no. And once you make up your mind, that's the direction that you want to go in.

You want to move into another direction. Yeah. You don't, you don't become as wealthy as these men are with being indecisive. Yeah. You make a decision and you live with said decision. It's of the utmost that they get better players for the defense.

They've got to get a right guard. They've got to get a right guard. He just, I mean, ooh, man. Listen, he had a decent, he had a decent game the last game of the season. No, he did, no, Joe. Did you not see this man? He thought he was a cross guard. He directed, he directed.

kids at an elementary school. Oh, we were standing there no man's land. He got a man like this and both of them go past. I like this. And it's, I mean, but think about it, Ocho, if, if, uh, and the problem that they had is when

Lamar went down, they put Cooper Rush in. Cooper Rush in. Cooper Rush in the athletic. So he can't get out of harm's way like Huntley. He can't get out of harm's way like Lamar. And you see what happened? But they got, they got to fix this thing. Steve is and and

Harb should have known bro defense bro that's the foundation of the Ravens that's the foundation Yeah you can score all the points you were as great as Tom Brady was that defense look at his defenses

that he had those were top 10 defenses Keep him in the ball game Okay Tom winning at the end He never let, for the most, Tom, never let those defenses, never let the game get out of hand. Think about it. When they was down 28 to 3, how many points did Atlanta score in the second half?

None. They had 28 at the half, and guess what they had at the end of the game? 28. That same 28. So you look at the greatest show on Turf. They scored 17 points. The Rams that year,

they were going up and down the field. On everybody. Three points. It's going to be very important to get somebody that can coach Lamar and put him in the best situation so they succeed. That's the utmost.

But everybody's going to come and say, oh, yeah, I got this great scheme. Ooh, Lamar's going to be yada yada. Everybody, oh, you know what I'm trying to sell myself. I'm on a job interview. Oh, I'm more than qualified. I got five degrees. Yep, putting your best foot forward.

No. I don't think Stephansky is the right fit for Baltimore. I could be wrong. I don't think he's the right fit. Obviously, he knows that division, having coached in that division,

what, six, seven years. He knows the division, knows the personnel in Cleveland, but I don't think that's a good, I don't think that's a good fit, me personally. Right. But don't show,

they got to get defense, they got to get defensive help. that's what they need, they need that bad. Big time. They're going to be some changes. They're going to be some players that's been like Long Ravens

and I'm not so sure that they're going to be there or be there in a lesser role. But they need pass rushes, Ocho. They need past rushes and be the absolute worst way. Oh, he got me sick. I believe so.

Well, you got a cold? Yeah. Yeah. Oh, man. Yeah, I think George, somebody got me sick. Oh, man. But we'll see our plans out. I mean, I think they're going to, look, they got time.

I mean, who's in a rush to hire somebody? I mean, you just probably let the best coach that's on the market, you let him go. Yeah. Yeah. So like I said, I think they'll, their brain Brian Flores in. I'm trying to think who else got let go. Maybe they bring Cliff Kingsbury in. Cliff normally works really good with young quarterbacks.

You see what he had, Collar. Collar was rookie of the year. He had Jane Daniel. Jane Daniels, rookie of the year. I don't know how he does with a veteran quarterback, but hey, but you got, he just doesn't run the ball enough. I think that's what rubbed Dan Quinn the wrong way. You put so much pressure on the quarterback,

and you have a tendency to do that when you have such an elite level at that. But look at John Sheldon. Turn it right ahead of James Cook. Look what Sequan did for the Eagles last year. Yeah. And even Christian McCaffrey, they'll hand it to him, they'll throw it to him.

A lot of those pasts, it's not like McAfreys catching ball 30 yards down the field. he's catching Texas routes. He's catching flat routes. He's catching screens. Give it to him. Let him light and the load on the quarterback. Ocho,

with the Seahawks locking up the number one seed, let's compare Sam Donald's stats year over year. In 2024, he was 14 and 3. In 2025, he's 14 and 3. With the Vikings, he had 4,319 past yards. With the Seahawks, he had 4,000, 48 pass yards. He had 35 passing touchdowns with the Vikes,

25 with the Seahawks, 12 interceptions with the Vikes, 14 with the Seahawks. He had a pass a rating of 102.5 with the Vikes, 99.1 with the Seahawks. Clearly, how much do you think the Vikes are regretting letting him get out the building for the little bit of money? And we say a little bit of money.

It's not that. 40, 50, 55, 60 million dollars that the top tier, they probably could have had him for 30 plus incentives. Well, they got to be pissed, huh? They got to be pissed. And obviously, I think, you know, because they picked JJ McCarthy, he was hurt his rookie year.

We have no choice but to test our hand on who we drafted. Let's see if he's the answer. Let's see what he has, you know? And obviously, seeing J.J. McCarthy, when he was at Michigan, They ran the ball most of the time. They were a running team. They were a running team.

And so now you're getting the product of what you drafted and hoping it would be better than what you already had and you let get outside the door. Sam Donne had already proved yourself what he could do with the weapons you had around him. And then not only that, he leads, he goes to Seattle and picks right up where he left off that. And that alone tells you everything you need to know.

I would have, I would have read out of let it run. because you got great, you got great reference. Green Bay. Yeah. When they had Brad Farr, Aaron Rogers sought for a couple of years. Green Bay,

Aaron Rogers, Jordan Love sought for a couple years. Yes, sir. I'd have ran it back at least one more. Shoot, one, shoot, I'd have ran it back. But I'm saying, yeah, you can do the car, but I'm just saying,

I run it back, I run it back at least at the bare middle motor. You got to bring him back after the season that he had. You let the guy that won 14 games through 35 touchdown, 4,300 yards, and you let him walk out the door, and you don't get nothing for it. You know what? In comparison to Sam Donald's numbers that year with the Vikings,

what were JJ McCarthy's numbers this year with the Vikings? He was hurt most of the time. I know, not even close. No. Yeah. Hell, he might not even throw him for 10 touchdowns this year. Damn. And hurt.

Remember Mr. Hold hurt first year. And then he's had a hamstring issue. Then he hurt his hand. So. Yeah, it's unlucky. And there's a good chance.

I don't know how certain they are that he's the guy. Are you, are they certain that, that, uh, JJ McCarthy is the guy? Listen, he has three, most of the time they give you three years.

Yeah. You know, that third year. Because you got to make a decision. Yeah. Normally that's when they come back to you. And when you're the guy, you look at Josh Allen, you look at my homeboy. And that's when they come into it.

Is it okay? Well, Lee, he got one more year. Yeah. He got one more, he got one more year under this belt to prove itself. Are you the future? If not, you know how,

you know the NFL not for long, especially for that quarterback position. because every team understands unless I have one, I have no chance. And Daniel Jones, remember they had Daniel Jones there. Oh, that's right, that's right. I forgot he had a little stint there. Hey, and that comes down, the situations matter.

The situations matter. You was in New York and you had flashes. You had flashes, but not the consistency we saw when you went to goddamn indie. Nope. Right? Turn that damn franchise around, man. Coaching matters. That, yeah, yes.

And, you know, you hear all the great players. You hear Montana and you hear Aitman and you hear guys that played that level, played that position at an elite level. They talk about how coaching matters. They talks about how organization matters. Troy is still upset that Jerry got rid of Jimmy. Oh, yeah. He says, I don't know.

He said, we might have not won any. We might have won two or three. We might have not won none. He said, but I just know we'd want to, we don't want to. bunch of games because Jimmy knows how to coach and Jimmy knows how to put a team together. That's what Jimmy knows how to do. He can do that. Right.

But Sam Darno, his look, look, 14 and 3, there ain't been a whole lot of guys. There's never been a guy that won 14 games with one team and the next year leaves gold and does 14 wins with another team. That's never happened. Because normally when a guy wins 14 games, he ain't leaving. Oh, yeah, absolutely not. But, hey, it is what it is. The Seahawks reportedly sent out a warning to season ticket holders that selling playoff tickets may impact their ability to renew season

for next season. Playout tickets resale notice. Our records indicate that your seat for the upcoming divisional round of the playoffs are currently posted for resale as communicated prior to the 2025 season, 2026 renewal eligibility may be impacted if it is determined that seize your season tickets, including any playoff games, were used primarily. for resale purposes. To avoid any impact to your renewal eligibility, we ask that you remove your resale listing and ensure your tickets are used by another

12th, meaning 12th man, another Seahawk fan. We encourage you to distribute your tickets directly to friends, family members, neighbors, or community groups that will help us pack lumine and feel with blue and green. Don't try to make

extra buck off of us now. If you're going to support, support all the way. Don't try to make them money. Because a lot of times you don't do, oh Joe. I said, look, the Cowboys coming. What I sell these Cowboys tickets for, I'll be able to buy the whole season. Oh.

Just the playoffs. What I'll be able to say the whole season. Hey, listen, they think it just like onus thing. They think it just like onus thing. That bottom line. How can I maximize my earning potential with these tickets? Well, hell, I ain't got to go to the game, but I can set myself up for future games next year.

Thank you. Come on now. That's how they're thinking. But, you know, the fire prince says we get to determine, we can at any point in time revoke that. We see you put these tickets up. That's why you're responsible for anybody that's in your seat. The guy, he or she misbehaved, they throw beer,

they hur or racial slurs, or whatever the case may be. right yeah you're responsible for whomever then that seat right you do you think the Seahawks would do that though to the to those who are seed and ticket old season ticket holder I think the thing you know they're trying to scare them they don't want to do that oh yeah right yeah I and I don't really see him enforcing that I think scare them yes actually enforcing it if you resale your tickets as someone else that that's tough yeah I don't want to do it oh Joe because I don't know I don't know what their wait list is.

Their wait list is not like Green Bay, Washington, the Broncos, teams like that. That got 30, 40-year waiting list to get on this, you know. Right. And a lot of them, when you're in those cities, they pass those things down to the family, through the family. So. Right.

But you know what? Right now, the funny thing about it is when you're winning, those waiting lists are long. Yes. So right now with the way they're playing in Seattle, With Sam Darno, JSN having the year he did, with that defense that they have. Oh, it's people in line waiting.

You get people talking about how they know. You do realize they know who sits in what seats. So when they go check and they're like, okay, these seats, oh, these seats belong to such and such. You're selling them. Yeah. They know. Everything is well documented, no.

It is well documented, especially if you're a season ticket holder, all the information that you fill out. Oh, Joe. Oh, they know who you are. Don't you know? where the seats are, what season, take a hold of sitting in what seats. So all they gotta do, okay,

section 104, seats three and four section seat. Right. For sale, section 104, seat, three and four section seat. Oh, you gotta take it's for sale. Yeah. Oh, that's, that's Tom and Susan seats. Yes. Oh, they're trying, oh, they're trying to resell.

Thank you. Okay. Oh, okay. I see what, I see what's happened time. That's why the NFL, that's why the tickets are so high for the Super Bowl. The NFL saw how much people was willing to pay for resale Super Bowl tickets. They say, if you're willing to pay that, we'll just go ahead and slap that fee on your right now. Since you like, since you will pay it, we'll go ahead and hit you over the head for 5K.

We'll go ahead and hit you over the head for 10K, 15K. Since you're willing to pay it on the black market. I would pay it up front. There you go. There you go. It's just like anything, Ocho. You get an apartment, you can't sub lease it. Well, I put, no, bro.

Yeah. A lot of times you can't have other people over there without clearing it through the leasing agency. Yes. Because they don't want no, they don't want no issues. So, Seahawks, fans, be careful. Careful. This is an I-Heart podcast. Guaranteed human.