Club Shay Shay - Nightcap - Hour 1: FSU's awful loss, Brian Kelly's harsh words

Episode Date: September 3, 2024

Shannon Sharpe and Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson react to Florida State losing to Boston College, Brian Kelly calling out his players after their loss to USC, and much more!04:40 - Introduction05:37 - FSU loses to BC41:00 - Brian Kelly's Harsh comments58:30 - Dolphins Super Bowl Bound?(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Everything is 20% off currently. Thank you. Oh, Cho. Woo! Number 10, Florida State. top of the chat. Everything is 20% off currently. Thank you. Ocho, woo! Number 10, Florida State. Now, you were number 10 last week when you went over to Ireland, I think, and Georgia Tech beat you. You come home, you're still number 10, and you lose at home to Boston College. Now they're 0-2.

28-13 losers to Boston College. Let me see if I can get this name right. DJ Uyan Galaylee. uh, 28, 13 losers to Boston college. Let me see if I can get this name, right? DJ. We are good lately. Did I say it right? Oh,

Joe, just say DJ, you DJ, you, we are good lady. D a matter of fact, DJ unbelievable because that's that his performance tonight was unbelievable. Yeah.

Oh, Joe. I mean, you do realize he was at Clemson before Trevor Lawrence got there. Trevor Lawrence been in the league like three four years yes sir what does that tell you if I'm not mistaken he's he's on his third team this is his third third team Clemson Oregon State now FSU um that performance wasn't good enough Ocho uh. You watched the game. Talk to us about what you saw. I'm upset. It makes me sick.

As a resident of the state of Florida, I'm embarrassed. I'm embarrassed. The best football team in Tallahassee is Florida A&M. Performance is like tonight. It's why coaches get fired. DJU, you have to play better. You can't compete at any level, whether it's peewee, junior high, flag football, college, high school, in the NFL. It comes down to the most important position on the field, the quarterback position. The team goes as the quarterback goes. Tonight, it just wasn't good.

It wasn't good. I'm not sure if he's the best fit. I'm not sure if he's the best option. But if Florida State wants to compete, the rest of the season, they're going to have to make a decision at the quarterback position. Unless magnificently,

oh my goodness, magnificently, the quarterback turns around, turns it around in some way, shape, form, or fashion. His confidence right now, Unc, his confidence is shot. His confidence is shot. Shout out to Brian. Shout out to Bill O'Brien on having a Boston College team that was ready to play, especially defensively. I love the quarterback, Castanelos.

Did I say that right? Castanelos. Castellanos? Yeah, Castellanos. You know? He plays some good football. He plays some good football. Robichaud ran hard,

caught the ball well out of the backfield. Listen, on third down, Florida State was 3-14, man. Well, you're going to lose. Hey, listen, 3-14. Yeah. Like, on a video game, if you're playing NCAA,

college 25, you can go better than 3-14. I'm expecting, I'm thinking about the Florida States of the old, the Florida States of the old with the Charlie Wards and the Peter Warks and the Boulwares and the Marvin Snoop Menace. Man, they got to be upset. They got to be upset.

People that are fans of Florida State have to be upset. You can't have that kind of performance. For one, way out there in Ireland, again, Georgia Tech, and then come home in your home stadium, and play like that. Like, these are the kind of performances by a team that get head coaches fired.

Somebody gonna have to answer. Because it doesn't get any easier. I forgot, looking at the schedule, I forgot who Florida State has next. Might be Memphis or something like that. Yeah. They need a game where they can string things together. They weren't in sync.

The quarterback and the receivers tonight, it seemed like almost every ball was off. There was no chemistry. Seemed like they hadn't even practiced before. Like, easy layup stuff. Comeback routes, curl routes, sitting in zone, ball to the left, ball to the right, ball hitting the floor before it gets to the receivers.

Well, you know, he... I don't know what was going on. From what I saw, goddamn, fam, you quarterback right now, matter of fact, he can come right now and do better than what I just saw tonight. Come on, man. Mr. Easy throwing a seven route on the goal line. He had a situation.

They switched it. How do you miss that? Throw it out of bounds. And you had to settle for a field goal. That's a touchdown. That changes the game itself. Yeah. 100% of the balls thrown out of bounds are incomplete.

So I don't know if he thought that was, you know, it was Canada. The field was a lot wider than what it was. But he struggled. I mean, he struggled. I mean, you know, he played well. If you look at his freshman year, I thought the kid, because he played so well,

he had a couple of 400-yard games, if I'm not mistaken, his freshman year. I thought, man, if this kid stay on this trajectory, he could be a top-five pick. Big kid. He's like 6'4", 6'5", 240, big time arm. All the intangibles. All the intangibles.

I think the thing is, there's nothing wrong losing your job to Trevor Lawrence. Trevor Lawrence turned out to be the number one pick in the draft, first pick in the draft. It's just like Jalen Hurts losing his job to Tua. Tua was a top five pick. Ain't no shame in that, Ocho. Ain't no shame in losing your job to a top five. Yeah, but okay, you didn't like the way now you come in and you're still struggling. And the new guy, Klibnick, I think he takes your job.

And now you go to Oregon State and you don't find happiness there and you don't play well there. You come to Florida State and it's two games in. There's a reoccurring theme here. You're the only common denominator of it. If you say, okay, Clemson, Oregon State, and Florida State, the only common denominator is you. Yeah, his confidence is shot. His confidence is shot.

I'm not sure who FSU plays next, but he needs to string some things together starting in practice it all starts with whoever's calling the plays out there Florida State the bill is confidence up start him small swing pass you know a quick smoke just to get him in rhythm get him in rhythm to get his confidence back because if he's going to be the starter if he's gonna be the starter for the rest of the season for the remainder of the season since you know they they got mike nova got his usha because if you put up another performance

like that what the ad gonna come calling for sure he's gonna come calling somebody finna come knocking right you had you scored 37 37 if i think maybe 37 points a game last year well they had jordan travis who was outstanding before he hurt his leg and that's probably one of the reasons they got blown out in the game against georgia you know they was complaining uh about not making the college football playoff um alabama got their spot no shame because alabama went down to the SEC championship and beat Georgia. Georgia hadn't lost a game in two years. They had won back-to-back national championships. Looked like they were going for

a three-peat. So I don't think anybody's shocked that Alabama jumped Florida State considering they had lost their starting quarterback. Had the starting quarterback still been in there, Ocho? I think that would have been a very difficult sell. But they knew with the backup, they weren't going to even come close. I don't think they thought Georgia

was going to bump them like this, but it happened. But when you go on the road, and they were favored to beat Georgia Tech. Georgia Tech is a lot better than I think people thought. With that being said, Florida State, you went 13-0 last year. You returned. I get

it. Jordan Travis is gone. Keon Coleman is gone. And you probably lost. I think you lost a defensive lineman also. But you should be better than this. I mean, the Poles had you ranked top 10. They obviously had you ranked top 10 for a reason. And when you came out, they haven't played well.

But it comes down to the quarterback. The quarterback hasn't played well. He hadn't played well in a very, very long time. Oh, Joe. Yeah. And with that being said,

it ain't, it's, it's, it's not, it's not looking good for Florida state. Now, Mike Norvell, they chose Mike Norvell over time.

That's time's alma mater. He played at Florida State, had a story career there, and they chose Mike Norvell. Could you imagine if Prime was that Florida State man? Can you imagine the recruits

they would have? Could you imagine how he could have turned that program around into being like the Seminole football teams of the early nineties, the two thousands. I'm thinking about it. Okay. The quarterback play is subpar. It's not up to par,

but there was a time Keon Coleman's gone. There was always somebody next in line. Yeah, for sure. When somebody leaves Alabama, there's somebody next in line. Yeah, for sure. When somebody leaves Alabama, there's somebody next in line. When somebody leaves LSU, there's always the next dog in line. I'm not sure what happened. At what point did we lose recipes when it comes to the Florida teams, FSU, UM, and the Gators?

There was a time when the big boys left, there was always another dog in line to keep it rolling. So if the quarterback position is subpar, there was always some dogs at receiver that can make up for the lack of quarterback play or lack of consistency at the quarterback play because they were just that good. Not everybody spread out all over the place. Everybody spread out all over the place. I look at some of the young bulls down in Ohio State. Jeremiah Smith, I think I said his name right.

He went to Ohio State, come right from Chaminade. You know, Jerry Judy. All the receivers that should, I would like them to stay home and play for their home team. Can you imagine all them stayed home and played? Look at Amari Cooper. Amari Cooper left. Most of those guys left.

Everybody left. So now, let's say, okay, you can't get a quarterback. But then you always have those dogs in line at the receiver position. You know what? All we have to do is just put it in his hands or put it in the area. Just put the ball in the vicinity and they will do the rest. They'll make it work. It ain't the same no more.

I think if you got, I'm not saying he's going to have the same type of success, but I think it would have been a very similar situation to when Kirby Smart went back to Georgia because Kirby played at Georgia and it's like, okay,

our guy came home. That would have been a very similar situation with Prime going to Florida State. But, you know, whatever, they made their decision. They wanted to go with Mike Norvell. And, you know, whatever, they made their decision. They wanted to go with Mike Norvell. And, you know, I think he went 13-0 last year.

The quarterback gets hurt. They go, I think he went, what did he win his first year? Eight and five, maybe nine and four. So it's not like, but when the standard is what Florida State is, especially what Coach Bowden, not the last couple of years withstanding, is that there's an expectation level. In these schools, you know, there's an expectation level that,

as you said, like, you know, with Coach Bowden in the 80s and the 90s, you know, they had great players. All the Florida schools got a lot of the Florida players. They weren't going to Alabama. They weren't going to Ohio State. They stayed at home.

Now they're starting to spread out. They're going to Ohio State. They're going to the University of Alabama. They're going to Georgia. They're going to Michigan. And so now all of a sudden, it used to be, Ocho, if you could just recruit the state of Florida,

you're going to be straight. Now you go to Ohio, go to Midwest and get you a couple of those big old linemen. But if you can recruit the state of Florida. You're going to be straight. Now you go to Ohio and get your Midwest and get you a couple of those big old linemen. But if you can recruit the state of Florida, you're with Gucci. Well, it's getting harder and harder to recruit the state of Florida because

they're not putting out the pros like Alabama, like Ohio State, like Georgia. You see Georgia every year churning out defensive players. You see Georgia every year churning out defensive players. You see Alabama every year churning out offensive and defensive players. You see Ohio State. You get Chase Young.

You get the Bosa brothers. You get those stringer receivers going out of there. You get the offensive linemen. So they start to see that. Well, hell, Florida, when was the last time y'all put multiple players in the first round in the NFL? Miami, when? FSU.

So now Ocho is starting to dissipate a little bit, and it's getting harder and harder to recruit because they see Amari Cooper. Man, Amari Cooper went top five. They see Jerry Judy. They see all of these other receivers going. And what's the other guy that he was at Jacksonville? He was at Atlanta. Then he goes to Jacksonville and now he's at Tennessee. I think he's a Florida

kid, isn't he? Calvin Ridley. Where's Ridley from? Is Ridley from Florida or Alabama? You know what? I'm not sure. I'm not sure where Cal's from. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I just, I don't know. You got to do better than this, Ojo. The quarterback has to play better. I mean, if he

doesn't, you're not going to win. Now, the ACC is not what it once know. You got to do better than this, Ocho. The quarterback has to play better. I mean, if he doesn't, you're not going to win. Now, the ACC is not what it once was. You basically, you got Clemson. We'll see what Louisville is going to be. I don't know if they got Notre Dame on the schedule this year. But DJ, 21 of 42, 272, one touchdown, one interception. 50% in college is not good.

It's not good in college. 50% in college, 50% used to be like 55% was really good in the NFL under the old rules. Now, if you're not completing 65% down to 70% of your pass in the NFL, with the way the rules are and the way the field is

spaced, man, 50% you trash you definitely not good in college if you only completing 50% of your passes but they got to do they do FSU do play Notre Dame at Notre Dame

wow wait who does Florida State play next they play Memphis if I'm not mistaken. They play Memphis. What, they play Memphis next week? Or do they have a early buy? The 14th at home. Man, listen.

What if they lose to Memphis, huh? So they got to buy. So they play. Okay. Yeah. They got some decisions they say really it's from Lauderdale somebody in the chat said really it's from Lauderdale

I ain't even know real from the crib so he lose to Memphis they might get him up out of there yeah listen it's not looking pretty They might get him up out of there. Yeah. Oh, and three. It's not looking pretty.

It's not. Because in order to beat Memphis, if I'm not mistaken. Oh, by the way, I meant Mike Novell. But Billy Napier better get on the ball, too. As a matter of fact, let's go ahead and transition. The biggest disappointment, though, has been the 7-0 front. Seven expected to be one of the best defensive line in the country FSU was carved up for 190 yards 5.2 yards to carry and it's open

and lost in Dublin and they were oh oh I'm looking at this as you put this that guess the number two ranked quarterback the number one ranked quarterback coming out dual with Bryce Young DJ was number two CJ quarterback, the number one ranked quarterback coming out, Duel, was Bryce Young.

DJ was number two. CJ Stroud was number three. When they were coming out of high school. Right. Where did DJ go to high school at? Where did he go to high school at? Oh, that's in Jersey, isn't it? California.

He went to St. John Bosco. So all three of them from California. Oh, he went to St. John Bosco? Yeah. Okay, okay, okay., isn't it? California. He went to St. John Bosco. So all three of them from California. Oh, he went to St. John Bosco? Yeah. Okay, okay, okay. All three of them from California. Yeah, Bellflower, California. And CJ's from Rancho Cucamonga.

Damn, man. See, he was 6'4 and a half, 246 pounds. CJ was 6'2 and a half, 194. Bryce Young was 5'11, 183. Bryce was number one. CJ was 6'2 and a half, 194. Bryce Young was 5'11, 183. Bryce was number one. CJ was number two. I mean, DJ was number two and CJ was number three. And Bryce Young

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himself himself the coaches can only hide so much the coaches only have so much at some point you gotta you gotta step up and play ball yeah at some point you gotta step up and play ball my whole mentality in general i don't play the quarterback position how can i make my coaching job easy how can i make the players around me better? How can I do that? As a quarterback, I want to be able to make those play calls as easy as possible, being able to make all the throws,

whether it be short, whether it be intermediate, whether it be deep balls. How do I do that? By being efficient. I could call all the players if I want, but if the guy, Ocho, I can give you a job, but if you can't

operate the equipment, what am I supposed to do? That's all confidence, Unc. I'm looking at a young fella out there tonight playing with no confidence. So what happened at Clemson? Okay, you lost his confidence. Okay, what happened at Oregon State? Okay, let's just say he lost his confidence. Okay, at Florida State, State? Okay, let's just say he lost his confidence.

Okay, Florida State. At what point in time is it him, Ocho? Yeah, that's what I'm saying. And then what happens is you're playing against competition that I'm assuming is a little better. You know, at Clemson, I'm not sure if he was there with Trevor Lawrence when he was at Clemson. Well, hell, you know you're not starting over him.

I'm not sure. What was there? Was he there with Trevor. What was he? Was he there with Trevor or he came in after Trevor got there? Why the hell would you go to have Trevor there? Listen, I have no idea. He was the goalie.

From the time he was like 17, he was like, okay, this is going to be the number one pick. It's the same thing as Matthew Stafford. He's going to be the number one pick of the draft. The way he can spin the football, the way he can throw the ball, he's going to be the number one pick. Yeah. His first year, he came

in, he was in the 2020 class. So he came in, Trevor was probably, so that meant Trevor was a senior, a junior, because Trevor started as a well he played right away so yeah he didn't register right okay damn man k club nick and then at or at oregon state at oregon state he i'm he couldn't beat out whoever the starter was there. I forgot Young Bull that was there last year. No, he played. But the thing... Oh, he did play.

If the thing is, if you struggle throwing the ball, why the hell you going to Oregon with that weather? It rains, it's sleet, it snows, it's cold, it's windy. Man, you better stay your ass in the South. Damn. Well, he's in the South now. He right here, sunshine.'s in the South now. He right here. Sunshine.

Missing the easiest throws. It looked like they had never practiced before. Oh, so Ocho, has it ever dawned on you? He might not be it. That's why I said his confidence is shot. To be coming out of high school

and be ranked number two in between C.D. Stroud and Bryce Young, there's something about you that everyone saw. 6'4", 240. With the same John Bosco. I know.

I know. And at the quarterback position, the first thing, once your confidence is shot, it affects everything else. Everything else. Ocho. That's why at the highest level in NFL, you have to have a very short memory. As a DB, you got to have a short memory. You get beat, boom, on to the next play. As a receiver, you drop a ball, you know what?

Boom, fuck it, on to the next play. What happens if you got confidence and you're not good? Then what do you do i don't hey listen i don't know nobody that's not good that got confidence oh you could be you could have confidence and not be good at something you absolutely can you absolutely can be good at something have all the confidence in the world you got to have some type of self-awareness if you have self-awareness there's no way in hell you're not good and confident at the same time. The two don't even go together. But see, that's the thing

with an athlete. Sometimes our greatest attributes is our greatest liabilities also. It gives us performance. Man, I'm really... Everybody good... Ocho, everybody was good

in high school. If you go to college... Right. And guess what you go to the nfl everybody everybody for the most part 85 percent of the players was all conference all american all something at some point in time if you're in the nfl you was all something at some level all state all conference all this all that all american won this award you were something and sometimes it just comes down oh joe you know what hey you just go to a level and that that's that's it that's as far as you're meant to go so you think you think you think dj has hit a ceiling you think as a quarterback i think that might be a possibility that just and that's okay.

Everybody, there are a million kids that come out and go to college every year. All million of them ain't going to the NFL. Oh, wait a minute. What if this is the issue? What if the fact

that he doesn't have the supporting cast that a Bryce Young or a C.J. Stroud had when they were in college? He was at Clemson. Do you know what come out of Clemson? They were playing for national championships.

I mean, I don't know. I don't know. Hey, boy. Hey, it's tough. I don't like what I saw. But I get what you say. When a guy comes out as heralded as he is, he has all the physical attributes,

everything that you can look at and say, that's what a quarterback should look like. Six foot four and a half, 240 plus pounds, big pass eye test, sturdy body, can make every throw on the field. And so when you look at all the measurables, that's it. Yeah.

You're saying to yourself, man, give Bryce Young that body. Let Bryce Young be 6'4.5". Instead of 5'8", 5'9", 5'10", 5'11", 180 pounds. Give him that body with his makeup. Right. But everybody, I mean, God ain't give Tom Brady

Lamar Jackson legs. Yeah, yeah. Listen, you gotta work with what you got. I can't give you everything, Ocho. Yeah. So you want Steph Curry to be able to be like LeBron. Six foot nine can come down here and shoot the ball. What? And shoot the ball like that? How is that fair?

So, I don't know what it is, but I definitely thought after watching him for a couple of games, because when he came in for Trevor Lawrence, Ocho, he threw for like 400 yards. Because I think Trevor Lawrence got hurt. Didn't Trevor Lawrence miss a couple of games? And he came in, Ocho,

and I'm talking about he lit it up. On fire. On fire, huh? Again. Look at, that's what I said. That's what I said. The supporting cast he had out there. You heard me?

I guarantee I'm right. The supporting cast he had out there. The supporting cast to save you every time now. And when you got them dogs surrounding you, they will save you every time. But guess what? Those dogs probably said, man, you're hurting our chance to get to the league because now you got us looking like we can't play.

Right. Damn. I know one thing. The best collegiate football team in Tallahassee is Florida A&M. Matter of fact, fam, you might be Florida State based on what I saw tonight. That's how I'm feeling.

I remember going to camp my rookie year. Man, Ocho, man, the quarterback was so bad. I'm like, man, I'm not going with you in the one-on-one. I'm backing up. You're not going to get both of us cut because I see the way you're throwing. You're going to get cut. They're going to have me out here.

You're going to have Coach Reed and I'm thinking out here, I can't do this. Oh, no. Mm-mm. Nope. Man. Hey, listen, he got a week he got a week

he got a week to get together get it together get your confidence back I know that's what it is young bull got to get his confidence back and he need

he need them receivers them receivers got to help him out yeah they got to help him out the play caller whoever's calling the plays you have to understand

his strengths his weaknesses you got to know what your receivers are good at what they can and what they can't do make it easy for them if you got to if you got to if you got to know what your receivers are good at, what they can and what they can't do.

Make it easy for him. If you got to dumb down the playbook, dumb it down. And once he gets his confidence back, then you can open the playbook back up. Ocho, he's missing easy throws, though, Ocho. Yeah, I know. I mean, I know. He's throwing swings in the dirt.

That's seven route and the end's on Ocho. You won't get an easier throw than that, Ocho. I ain't going to lie. I ain't played quarterback in 40 years. I could have completed that one. Right now. It's unfortunate. It's unfortunate. I'm gonna tell

you one thing. Players get coaches fired now. Yeah. Players get coaches fired. FSU wasn't the only Florida team that struggled this weekend. The Gators over the season at home against rival miami miami the canes and it wasn't pretty they lost 41 17 billy napier should probably focus on his team and not taking shots at the florida fans uh this is what he said ocho

we got to become more consistent we got to become a more consistent team and if we focused on those things and not necessarily what some guy in his basement is saying, you know, rules Central Florida on social media, then we got a chance to get better. You talking about the fans? You say the fans, you know, criticize him, say they're in, you know, their basement.

Oh. Hey, hey, hey. Hey, Coach. Well, they only own one, huh? All losses aren't the same, Ocho. If one thing, you get beat. Okay, Ocho, we lost 27-23. We lost 31-24.

Man, you get beat by 24? And it wasn't that close, Ocho. Yeah. I mean, listen, the Hurricanes ain't no slouch now. The Hurricanes ain't no slouch. They bouncing back. That goddamn Cam Ward.

Oh, he played unbelievable. He was sensational. But that boy Cam Ward, I'm telling you, that's the sensational. But that boy Cam Ward, I'm telling you, that's the difference. When you have a quarterback, you could damn near do anything. Yeah.

He was out there slicing and dicing. Slicing and dicing. But at some point in time, Ocho, you gotta look. You gotta accept responsibility. He said, I mean, as a coach, I gotta do a better job of coaching them a coach i gotta do a better job of coaching

them up i gotta do a better job of putting them in position and making sure we understand what we need to do in order for us to win you can't blame the fans you can't blame the players players now if you want to get when you want to get into a situation oh joe you go into a meeting room and you and i both know we played at a lot of different levels. What the coach might say publicly and what he say privately is two different things. And we understand that. That effort is not good enough. That effort was not good enough on either side of the ball. I expect us to play better.

A lot of the assignments that we missed, we had gone over and over and over. One of the reasons why I couldn't coach. Hell, we done practiced something all week. We send the first 15. And guess what happened, though We send the first 15. And guess what happened, though? To the first 15, somebody F it up. Now, we done practiced this.

You knew it. Saturday night, we go over it again. And guess what? We talk about it before we go out there. First 15, hey, this is what we got, blah, blah, blah. And then somebody mess it up. And so I get it. If you want to critique your players in the meeting,, right. If they keep effing it up, there's something going. Either there is a disconnect with the way you teach it or the way they're receiving it.

Now, if you're teaching it correctly, now you need to get players that can receive it better. But if you're not, you need to get a coach or coaches that can communicate what some people are. You know, me, I was a visual learner. You just couldn't tell me what to do. I needed to see it, Ocho. Now, once I saw it, I got it. And then I understand what you were trying to tell me and what I needed to do, but I needed to see it.

Everybody doesn't learn the same. And so we got to find out a way, coaches, we need to find out a way to get the information that we're trying to disseminate. We need to get the players to understand it. So what what is being lost in communication? What is being lost in translation? Well, what happens if the team you're playing, regardless of how well you coach them up? Let's say Brother Napier coached up the Florida defense.

He coached up the Florida offense. They know what to do. They've been in meetings all week. You study film and you watch film on the Miami hurricanes on what they were going to do. Their tendencies offensively and their tendencies defensively. But what happens if they just better than you? What happens if their,

if their players are just better than us, which is why the score, the score at the end of the game, look the way it looked. What happened if they were just better? They were able to execute their offense better. That happens, Ocho. That's why it's easy for you to

accept. The guy's just better. He's just better. They're bigger, faster, stronger. Even they're being coached better. Even if I coach at my best because they have superior athletes hell right i could have rolled secretariat and wasn't nobody gonna beat him it wasn't it wasn't run and no disrespect to ron turcott right but that horse when you win

by 31 lengths it ain't the right it ain't the jockey. Right. It's the horse. Yeah. It's that chestnut coat. Mm-hmm. So sometimes it's just the team that's just better. Their players are better than yours. Their coaches are better than yours.

A lot of times that's how Alabama won. Alabama won because they had better players, better coaches. Yeah. Miami, the Canes, when they were winning, they had better players and better coaches. Okay. It happens, Ocho. You know what's funny? Sometimes if your players are good enough, your players can overcome bad coaching because they're that much better.

But then when you have subpar coaches and subpar players. You better have superior players to overcome bad coaches. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. In a situation like that, what we saw at the Olympics,

because when they got down, it was like you heard KD and a lot of guys say, well, we stopped running plays. We just know what we need to do. Get the ball ahead and make the right play. Well, we got superior athletes against the teams we what are the teams we're playing against you can get away with that

but what happens when you don't so you have inferior athletes and you have inferior coaching you probably get what you got you get you get exposed and a lot of times that was oh joe you know what a lot of times when you see these teams these d1 teams and they play the fcs teams but they play the hbcus and you see the score bit 77 to 3 and 77 7 that's what that is that's what that is no matter how no matter how down georgia is not beating alabama 77 7 right ohio State has not beaten Michigan 80-10. Right. But when you get that level of an imbalance with talent and

coaching, you're going to get scores like that. Lord, they got Miami. Okay, they get a reprieve. They got Sanford. Then they got Texas A&M, Mississippi State, UCF, at Tennessee, Kentucky at home, Georgia. They got Georgia.

It used to be the world's largest cocktail party. I don't know what they call it now. They call it the office party. They might not even call it anything now. And they're at Texas, LSU at home, Ole Miss at home, Florida State on the road. Boy, it's going to get ugly. Yeah.

All them games are going to get ugly except it was one. It was one team. The Bulldogs. Wait, hold on. Stanford or Stanford? Stanford. Okay, okay. The Bulldogs.

Yeah, that would be a game to get your confidence up. That would be a game to get your confidence up that'd be a game to get the team morale going hell Sanford coming in and fuck around and shock the world now like Appalachian State did Michigan that one time that year

you never know you talking about App State yeah Brian Kelly also called out his players last night he said You talking about App State? Yeah. Brian Kelly also called out his players last night. He said, his very first word, this is the first time since I've been here that I'm angry at my team. And then he went on to say,

it's unacceptable for us not to have found a way to win this football game. It's ridiculous. It's crazy. Later, when he talked about USC's Miller Moss, moss he also said he outplayed our quarterback garrett nuss uh tiger's quarterback garrett nussmeyer he was 29 to 38 304 yards this is kelly's third consecutive season opening loss now remember when they got thumped last year by florida state yes, sir. He was upset at his team because he said, we're not the team that we thought he was. Now, look, I'm not going to sit here and say,

I'm not the biggest Brian Kelly fan. Sometimes I go back and forth, but I think he might be on the tab of being overrated. I don't like how he handled the situation. He left Cincinnati right before the bowl game to go to Notre Dame. He did the same thing to Notre Dame to go to LSU. So he's not one of my favorites. Yes, sir.

And sometimes, you know, well, you know, he turned the program around. Well, why the hell you think they paid him all that money? That's what he's supposed to do. Dude, right.

I mean, Ocho, man, if I pay you $10,000 to fix my car, man, Ocho got it running. He was supposed to. I paid his ass for arm and a leg. Yeah.

Yeah. Most definitely. Most definitely. Most definitely. But again, I think if I'm not mistaken, he says he's upset at his players. If I'm not mistaken, he also took accountability. No, no. You lead with that. No, no, no, Ocho.

You lead with that. You don't say after you called out your players and then say, I got to do a better job of coaching. You say, I got to do a better job of coaching. And you lead the other part out until you get behind closed doors okay i see what you mean i see what you mean you can't leave oh i gotta do a better you don't read the team you don't said it was them hold on if they're if they keep doing the same thing you talked about now what is it there's a there's a there's a there's a disconnect Right. So the wires are getting crossed

because why aren't they understanding what you're saying? Or are you saying it in a form in which they can understand? That's your job as a coach. When you see them on the sidelines and they feel like they've gotten the game won, what are you doing? It's easy. Yeah, you're right.

Hey, see, the one thing about LSU, the one thing about LSU and Brian Kelly is they not in the same situation like the Floridas. They not in the same situation like the Florida States. See, they got them dogs over there. Yes. So they gonna hit the switch. They got them dogs at quarterback.

They got them dogs at receiver. They got them dogs at the deep, all the skill positions. And you know know with interior offensively and defensively the meat potatoes that goddamn team oh they got them so he don't really have much to worry about they're gonna flip the switch i don't know if you notice but georgia's in the sec so is alabama so is texas so is oklahoma so is old yes oh he got something to worry about DC. So is Alabama. So is Texas. So is Oklahoma. So is Ole Miss. Oh, he got something to worry about. Oh, yeah.

But the thing, all the teams you name, let's exclude that. Let's exclude Georgia. Georgia's on some other shit. But LSU is going to be able to compete. Going to be able to compete with everybody you just named.

Everybody you just named. But at some point in time you keep blaming your players they're going to like no coach you yeah yeah and one thing and one thing about it they're not going to fold on you you know in the NFL you do some shit like that but your players will fold on you

they'll talk to you they will fold on you, huh? Oh, man. They will fold on you now. What's the biggest difference? You're dealing with a grown-ass man. He got a mortgage. He got a wife. A lot of them got wives, got kids. You think you can talk to him like you can an 18 or 19-year-old?

Because the 18 or 19-year-old is trying to get where that grown-ass man is already at. And a lot of these grown ass men make more than the coaches. They will fight. And you know what out of coach? Oh, you can't.

I ain't telling you what somebody told me with you. I'm telling you what I know. I'm telling you what I know. I like that coach. Yes. I've seen players swing on coaches for being disrespectful. And y'all talk about soft, that's easy for you to say, but you

gotta be careful how you talk to a man. That is a grown man. And he ain't finna let you talk to him in that kind of way. All that mofo, that SOB, the way Coach Bryant and back in the 70s and 80s and the way those Lombardis and Coach Landry, Coach Landry never

cursed. He was very, he was very biblical. But you can't talk to... Okay. Okay. I was gonna say it like that. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Hey, who you

think you're talking to? Boy, they'll slide them chairs back quick on your ass. Very. Very. Punch you dead in your face on the sideline. See, players, I mean, they get a little shoving mask. But before they had all them cameras,

they had to punch a coach dead in his face for being different. It go down now. Yeah. It go down. So Yeah. It go down. So that's the biggest difference. You got to understand, that's why Coach Saban, it was hard for Coach Saban. Now, he didn't have a quarterback.

Oh, in the NFL? Yeah. I heard some stories about him with the Dolphins. It was funny. Yes. There was some funny stories. Yes. Really funny stories.

You can't talk to a grown man like you can a kid because they're going to listen because they feel you can a kid because they're going to listen because they feel you can get them to where they need to be. Well, that grown man is already there. And you think you can say whatever you want like you could. Okay. Hey, I think it was Crowder. Crowder when Nick Saban was with the Dolphins.

They went to practice, right? Yeah. If I might have had a story correct, I might be a little off a little bit. And Junior Seau, I think Junior Seau was there at the time. Yeah. And goddamn Junior Seau came out to practice

with sneakers on. Like, real practice with sneakers on. And Nick Saban must have told Seau, you know, man, you need to go in there and put your cleats on or something like that. Yeah,

here's Junior Bub head. Ronnie, Ronnie Brown was on that team also. Yeah, Junior was like, okay, buddy. Okay,

buddy. Man, ain't do shit, man. Practicing his goddamn, in his goddamn. I think Shannon Crowder told it. It was something like that,

man. I'm talking about, I was in tears laughing when Nick Saban thought he won't go come in there and talk to them boys any kind of way no sir it's it's it's look players for the most part want to be coached but there's a fine line between hard coaching and being disrespectful right right that's why you got to know your players you got got to. That's why, that's why we was on tour and we talked to Raheem Morris

and we talked to D'Amico Ryan. I said, how do you differentiate between who you can coach hard and who you have to pacify? I call it pacifying. You got to pat him on the back to get,

to be able to get what you want to get out of him. Because especially now, today's game, you, you got players making 20, 25, 30,

40, 50, 55 million then you gonna talk to them any kind of way and they're making that kind of money man all right look at this yeah all right i don't see players fight i don't see coaches fight uh coaches might play uh uh players fight coaches players fight players it's a different mentality in that locker room that's why I believe like mentally what you have to do

because I don't care who it is it might be a wide receiver it might be a D lineman they ain't finna let you disrespect them they just not they just not and sometimes you got to take a L but you gonna gain a level of respect. Yeah.

See, like my grandma said, boy, I can't stop you from doing it, but I break you the habit. I can't stop you, but I bet you I break you the habit. I bet you ain't going to want to know. Nah, nah, I'm good. Nah, man, you got to just, like I said, guys want to be coached, Ocho. But sometimes coaches think because you're in an authoritative position, I can talk to him any kind of way.

No, you can't. And I understand. You're the coach. You can get me fired. You can get me traded or everything. But I tell you what, if you're disrespectful, I'll get traded, I'll get fired, but I'll tear your ass up on the way out the door. I bet you that.

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I didn't mind it. Just don't curse me. He cursed me one time. I had a conversation with him. He's like, I'm sorry 84. Hey. Never again. Never again. We had a great relationship. I think sometimes what happens is that a coach

has a perception. When Mike was first there, Mike was the quarterback's coach because he went to the Raiders and he had to fall out. He ended up coming back. He's the quarterback coach. So when he gets there, I'm mainly a special teams player. He leaves and comes

back. Now I'm the best tight end in the league. That's not how he remembered me. Right. So we kind of butted heads, but what he failed to realize what motivated me wasn't money. Yeah. I'm a praise guy. Just tell him I did a good job and that's all I need to hear from you.

Right. I don't need you to tell me, Oh, Hey, you know, Hey, you can be this. You can make a lot of money.

You know, you can do, I don't need that. Just tell him I did. I did a good job. 84. We can win with do. I don't need that. Just tell my dad. I did a good job. 84. We can win with that. I appreciate you get.

That's all I need. And so once I left and went to Baltimore and when I came back, he's like, you know, you want to bring us in, Mike? I don't need to see. Look, like I was in Denver. I know what the facilities are like. I know what you're like. I had to have a conversation with Mr. Boland. Mr. Boland had to say, look, I don't really put my foot down, but hey, are you coming back? I said, Mike,

you know me. You know what I'm about. I'm about business. I want to win. I prepare myself to win. I try to do a great job of getting other guys to get on board, to buy in what you're selling. I don't need to see the facility. All I need to know, do you want me to come back? Because if Mr. Bowler want me to come back and you don't, I'm not coming. Right. I'm not. 84, we should have never let you

go. Okay, let's do this. I had more money other places, but I thought it was only right that I go back and finish my career in Denver, where it all started. I would have never been happy, even if I took more money other places but I thought it was only right that I go back and finish my career in Denver where it all started I would have never been happy even if I took more money from Seattle had the opportunity to go to the Raiders it wouldn't have been right because in my heart

that's not where I wanted to go I wanted to go finish my career in Denver but I just needed to hear him say it once he said it I was cool I was like okay let's do this and plus I didn't want to put my kids my kids were still young and having to get my kids to fly

and travel way across Seattle from Atlanta to Seattle by themselves and then even my mom because at that point in time my mom had retired so my mom would fly from Chicago

but after 9-11 that stopped but she was still retired so my mom would fly that my mom would fly from chicago because you know this is for uh but after 9-11 that stopped well uh uh that stopped but she was still because their mom would walk them through the airport you know send them down on a company minor but after that point i would fly my mom there they would walk them to the gate then my mom would meet them at the gate and then they would come to denver or my sister would do something like that but yeah yeah you got to just be careful hey hey we we was totally we totally different too like when I think about it the coaching style that you like and you accept like I was complete I was completely different I like I like that hard coaching and where I'm based on where I'm from and where I'm raised I'm kind of used to it with the cursing and,

uh, you know, that, that get me, that get me going. Right. When I had you, but listen,

when I had you, let me take my glasses off. So you understand how serious I am. Cause you know, I'd be playing around all the time when I had Hugh Jackson in Cincinnati. And I wasn't playing up the par and he get the mother, he get the cursing. Yeah. Understanding this.

I know I can get Chad going with a motherfucker. What the fuck you doing? God damn it. Come on now. Let's go, man. Shoot. Well, you know, that shit just got just got me. I don't know.

I don't know how to explain it. It just got me, got me going and got me motivated I don't know how to explain it. It just got me going. It got me motivated because I have lapses sometimes. Sometimes I play down to my competition. And all it took was for you to say something to me in an encouraging way. But just add a little curse word to it. You know when you cook your chicken and you add your seasoning? Just add a seasoning. Just,

just add a little, see, I, I see, I see curse words as sentence enhancers and it, it just get me going. It's,

it's weird. It's weird. So I love and enjoy that type of coaching because it made me want to not only prove myself, but to make sure I don't embarrass you

based on all the coaching and goddamn film study and meetings we done did all goddamn week. Let me go out here and make sure I do't embarrass you based on all the coaching and goddamn film study and meetings we done did all goddamn week. Let me go out here and make sure I do my goddamn job. For me, Ocho, I never played down because I knew

where I was playing because Mary Porter was in air condition all of a sudden. And the house didn't leave. And I got kids. And so that was my motivation. You, because I looked at everybody that i faced well you're trying to get my grandma at this house you're trying to get my kids out of these private schools you're trying to take food off their table you're trying to get shannon to

go back to glenville with no running water and no end of oh no bro yeah you couldn't see you and you thought completely different that's the only thing completely different yeah that's the that was that was my motivation from the time i can remember me and my brother talking about it when we were sitting on those pine trees young pine trees are called saplings and we built many of the mofos over and my grandma said boy y'all need to stop bidding them saplings right that's all we talked about that's all i thought about that was my motivation and so every time i looked at somebody oh you trying to get granny up out that house huh okay yeah you trying to get my kids up so now you trying to feed your kids well my kids now if somebody kids not gonna eat mine gonna eat i don't know what you gonna do about

yours and i'm sorry i'm sorry but somebody kid's not gonna eat it's not gonna be mine mine gonna eat yeah I like that I like that I like that hey matter of fact

it's so funny I think about the coach the different coaching styles based on based on where you from everybody's different yeah anybody in the chat

I know somebody in the chat that's of age y'all remember I know y in the chat that's of age. Y'all remember, I know y'all saw The Year of the Bull. You never saw the documentary The Year of the Bull? I didn't.

Miami Northwestern with Teddy Bridgewater's coaching now? I didn't see it, but I know that's where he's coaching, okay? Oh, man. Listen, man.

The Year of the Bull is a coaching style that we all grew up with. And obviously, the coach, he caught flack for the cursing and the hitting the players and all that. Man, like that type of coaching and that style of coaching,

it probably wouldn't work today. It wouldn't work in today's game. Oh, they're going to fire you ass. You get fired right away. Oh, Joe, you know, they grab your face mask. They grab you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Hitting you upside the head.

Like, dog. Kicking your ass. Yeah, for sure hey man i dog it's just different now it's just different like like that type of coaching and just oh man i love that shit i love it oh joe the dolphins have not won a playoff game since acquiring tyreek hill in 2022 trade with the chief but tyreek said today he thinks this team is better positioned for success than the ones the Dolphins put on the field the past two years.

This is the best team we've had since I've been here. Great time to be alive. We're all excited. We've got a lot of weapons, a lot of playmakers on this team. Everyone is on the very edge of their seats waiting for this moment. Ochoa, do you believe their better position... Goddamn right. Goddamn right.

The opposite in a better position to not only win a playoff game, but get to the second round. Why are they in a better position? For one, one. Tua. I'm going to tell you why. Let me stay with me now. Tua, we're going to get a different side of Tua

because for one, he's gotten paid. For two, you know what you get when you have a happy quarterback that's satisfied? You know what? I have a franchise that believes in me. How do I know the franchise believes in me? Because I got 200 something million, five year, whatever the numbers may be.

I don't know them correctly, but you understand what I'm saying. They believe in me. So I think you're going to get the best version of Tua. Obviously, he was able to stay healthy last year. He's going to stay healthy this year. He has, what, one, two, three. This is third year in Mike McDaniel's offense? Or fourth? What year is this? Tua third.

Third year in Mike McDaniel's offense. He's familiar with everything. His supporting cast. Running game. Tyreek Hill. OBJ, who probably won't come back until maybe week four or week six.

You got Waddle. Offensively, they're a juggernaut. They're going to be held to deal with. They had Mostert. They had A-Chain. Oh, Mostert and A-Chain, yeah. They had them. They had Tyreek. They had Waddle. But what about defense? Chubb towards

ACL. He's coming back off of that. Phillip towards the key. He's coming back off that. They got rid of Xavier Howard. They got the linebacker. Yeah. Listen, there has to be an identity. On every team, there's an identity. It's either the defensive side of the ball

or it's the offensive side of the ball. It just so happened, as opposed to the 2000s, when the Dolphins' identity was their defense. Sam Madison, Zach Thomas, Patrick Sertain. It's different now. Now their identity... Yeah, right, yeah, Brock Murray. Now their identity is on the offensive side of the ball.

Okay. So now it comes down to playing good defense. If you don't mind me asking, what you going to do when the weather get bad? I know, you know what? That's always been an issue. No, no, no, no, no. Would you raise your vote?

Wait, wait. That's always been an issue for the Dolphins, even since Dan Marino. Even since Dan Marino. How do we play better in cold weather? But hold on. Let's think about this. There was a time, there was a game where they should have beat Buffalo,

where they could have had home field advantage, and they wouldn't have had to take their ass to goddamn Kansas City, if I'm not mistaken. Am I right or am I wrong? Yeah. That's a game you have to win. They started out fast. Yeah.

Listen, I believe them. And I'm not being biased because I'm from Miami. I'm very understanding on what the Dolphins and Mike McDaniel have to work with offensively. It's scary. Yes. Especially with Tua's healthy. It's scary.

Now, defense, that's something they got to do. Hey, we got Jalen Ramsey. You do realize that's a part of the team, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, a part of, that's a part of the team, right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Hey, they got brother Holland. They got brother Ramsey. Yeah. They're going to be, they're going to be all right. Who's going to be on the other side?

Huh? Who is, I don't know. Who is other, other DB on the other side of Ramsey? I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm expecting you to know that.

I'm expecting you to give me the answer. So do the Dolphins make the playoffs over the Jets and the Bills? Hell yeah. Come on now. You know that. The Dolphins going to win the AFC East, and that's no disrespect to Aaron Rodgers. That's no disrespect to Garrett Wilson. That's no disrespect to Bryce Hall. That's no disrespect to Bryce Hall.

No disrespect. But come on now. Yeah. What about what about what about disrespect to the Buffalo Bills?

The who? Buffalo Bills. I like Josh Allen. Until he shows me he can stop turning the ball over. They ain't come on now.

Come on now. I like Josh. Come on, now. Come on, now. I like Josh. I like the Bills, period. Hell, I like Keon Coleman. Yeah. I like Keon Coleman. Who? Can he come in and do it? Oh, Kendall Fuller. Can he come in and do what Stephon Diggs did for Josh Allen

as a rookie? A reliable target all the time. I understand what happened in the playoff game on the drop, on the drop deep ball. I know it happens. The game is about moments. And in that moment, he dropped the ball. But can he come in and be a consistent target, a reliable target for Josh Allen?

Yeah. That's an unanswered question, especially when it comes to their receiving core. Is there somebody that he can rely on every time now i think the onus is on josh allen now more pressure is on josh allen because you don't have that boy to go to every time yeah i mean keon coleman is that dude i'm not sure if he's it's it's different as a rookie it's different can he come in and have that type of impact that justin jefferson different. Can he come in and have that type of impact that Justin Jefferson's had? Can he come in and have that type of impact

that Jamar Chase had? We don't know yet. Right. We're going to find out though. Kendall Fuller. I think he's with the, wasn't he with the Commanders? Wait, Kendall Fuller from?

The Commanders. The Commanders? Yeah, I think. And he played with the Texans too? I think he's on the other side of J-Ram now. Okay. Okay. Got a nice little veteran presence. Lamar Jackson

was asked about his relationship with other quarterbacks in the league, including Mahomes. And this was his answer. Take a listen to the sound. I don't have a relationship with him. I don't think I have a relationship with any quarterback in the league. I don't have a relationship with him. I don't think I have a relationship with any quarterback. I don't take anything from him.

I just take my game. But he's a great quarterback. You see that? He's a great quarterback. He had the accolades to prove it. But, man, he's just – he made things happen on the field that make his team successful. You see that?

Or, Joe, you like that Lamar doesn't have a relationship with any other quarterback. Yeah, that's cool. That's cool. I mean, the relationship is when you're on the field, ain't like they don't be hanging out and,

you know, Lamar has a different type of lifestyle than other quarterbacks. It's just, man, we ain't going out, hanging out, drinking beers and, you know,

they do their own thing. They do their own thing. And I mean, he's right there., and they do their own thing. They do their own thing. And, I mean, he's right. The relationship they do have, when I see you, it's respect for what you do on the field and for your team. Outside of that, outside of the game of football, you know them boys don't hang out, man, unless you're at events.

You see each other at the ESPYs maybe. You see each other at Pro Bowl. And that's the extent of the relationship. No, I don't. I think there are two different places. Patrick Mahomes is married, about to welcome a third child. Lamar is single, if I'm not mistaken.

I don't think he has any kids. A lot of times quarterbacks move like quarterbacks when they're married. Tom Brady and Peyton were pretty cool, but both were married and kids. Dan Marino and John, they were pretty cool but both were married and had kids Dan Marino and John they were cool they both were married and had kids

and so it's not abnormal that Lamar is in this place and Mahomes is in that place and they're not you know I don't know like I said the quarterbacks now they're young so I don't know who's married and who's single who's got kids and stuff like that but I don't think. Like I said, the quarterbacks now, they're very young, so I don't know who's married and who's single and who's got kids and stuff like that.

But I don't think Lamar is like he's living his life. He's doing what he's doing. And I don't have a problem with that. You got to understand, Lamar and Patrick are two totally different sides of the spectrums. Two totally different sides of the spectrum. Yeah. And two different lifestyles altogether outside of the game of football so it's it's i you wouldn't even even it wouldn't

even look right hanging together they have nothing in common outside of playing the quarterback position and they're black okay can you imagine pat mahomes hanging out with kodak like it's just man i can't see pat mahomes and poppin oh chilling i? Like, it's just, man, I can't see Pat Mahomes and Papino chilling. It's just, nah. Oh, Lamar, it's been reported that Lamar has a daughter. I didn't know. Like I said, I don't, like, for me, Ocho,

I address guys, what they do on the field. You know, sometimes we might sneak a little joke in there about Tyreek, about the situation that he had going on or like a stretch where it seemed like every other day he was welcoming a new child. But for the most I don't I don't got nothing to do with me. I don't care about that. I'm talking about what you do on the field. Tyreek trying to beat me so bad. He got you. He tried to beat Nick Cannon.

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