Club Shay Shay - Nightcap Hour 1: GEORGIA out of CHARACTER vs BAMA + Penn State CRASHES vs OREGON + Texas A&M ROLLS Auburn + LSU offense NONEXISTENT

Episode Date: September 28, 2025

Shannon Sharpe, Chad “Ochocino” Johnson & Johnny Manziel react to Georgia’s stunning loss to Alabama, James Franklin & Penn State can’t win big game vs Oregon, is Texas A&M a real CFB Playoff contender? 3:30 - Bama Upsets UGA17:40 - Oregon Beats Penn State32:25 - Texas A&M Beats Auburn43:24 - Brian Kelly & LSU lack of run game (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #Club See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Every game was close. Ole Miss LSU was decided by less than a touchdown. Alabama, Georgia, less than a touchdown. Texas A&M and Auburn, less than a touchdown. Indiana, less than a touchdown. All the games that we were expecting to be close, they were close. Oregon and Penn State went into two overtimes. And again, as usual, Penn State will find a way to lose a game

and you want James Franklin to find a way to win, but they didn't. The number seven, we're going to start with this game, guys. The number 17, Alabama Crimson Tide. upsets number five, Georgia in Athens between the hedges. Crimson Tide have now won three straight over the Bulldogs, 10 of the last 11. Highside, 2020, do you agree with Kirby Smart? Not kicking the field goal, Johnny.

Going for it on fourth and one at the 10-yard line early in the fourth. They got stopped and really never got back in position again. Dropped a touchdown. Guy had a wide open touchdown. He dropped it, replayed, repaid. Ryan Williams' debt because he dropped one early in the ball game. What do you think, Johnny? What Kirby Smart had done given that situation?

It's out of their character to rush to go hurry up. That's not what they do. The play was close on third down to where maybe it could get reviewed. Why not take your time, let them see if they're going to send it to the booth. Get a good play that you want in. Why are you rushing to go do what? we did at A&M and go hurry up. You don't do that.

That's not your bread and butter. You don't have the right personnel on the field, but you think it's just a yard and you're going to sneak this little inside zone play, outside zone play in, and it's going to be, it's all cool. We'll be fine. We'll man it up, hat on hat, and get it in. What are we doing? It's so, it's such a big part of the game to think you're just going to slide one in

and a game against Alabama. So to me, I'm furious. I'm sitting there before the game. I'm like, who do I like? in this game. Georgia. Alabama hadn't showed me nothing. Nothing. True season.

5,000 on the dogs. Okay, second half they're down. I'll take them at plus seven. $5,000 on the dogs. Again. Yeah. Hey, and Johnny, I think especially from a coaching standpoint in a situation

like that, even though it's not something that you normally do, because of the circumstance in the situation in the team that you're playing, you want you want to do everything you can, you know, to believe in your team and hoping they can do get that, get that, get that fourth and one to give yourself some type of advantage. If anything, I would have got the points. You take your points in the situation like that.

You know, on a play sheet during the week, during your practice, you got a section there that says third and fourth and one. You got plays that you like in there. You know, let's call one of those plays. Maybe a roll out, a little flat pass if you're going to do something, but you don't speed up your offense and do something that's completely unhing. Speed up to run the ball. And then, and then, right.

Man, my dog did give him a little stiff arm and kind of tried to make something shake. He tried. He gave everything he got. But where's our five-star running back? Why is he not on the field? Thank you. Thank you. Why is he going to hurry up with the dude who's in there to block?

And it's not his fault. This is coaching. You got a guy that's ran the ball 12 times for 119, yards and a touchdown you had another guy had the ball one carry for 43 yards so that's inexcusable what we're not what we're going to we're going to be smart you know what we're going to do we're going to outsmart ourselves we're going to run hurry up with our backup to the backup running back and see if we can catch Alabama off guard because see that's when you try to like want to pretend how smart you are because what you do ain't about man Kirby what made you decide to go hurry up in that

situation. Now they're asking them the same thing, guys, in the press room. Kirby, why would you go hurry up in that situation? If you, why not call the time out? You haven't had to lead all night. You haven't had the lead all night. Why not take the guy? Yeah. Get it back to square. I'm not. Why not your five start running back? There are a million things you could have done. You took the million than one. So a million things that we could have done, Ocho. Right. Let's take the one thing.

shouldn't do. Tadda, and you wonder why Alabama has lost more than they've won. Excuse me, Georgia has lost more to Alabama than they've won. And a lot of times, they've had the better of the teams. They've had the better of the teams. They should have beat Georgia. They should have beat Alabama several times than the SEC championship. One time to have Mark, Rick, I don't know why they throw the ball to the flat when they

know they don't have any timeouts. And there's less than 10 seconds on the clock. We see them lose when they got this. superior team. They got all this talent that they did turn around and beat Alabama in the national championship game. But Jamison Williams blew out his knee in that game. Metschie had blew out his knee in the SEC championship game. But a lot of times, this has been unexcusable for Georgia to lose as many times as they lost to Alabama. And it really doesn't matter where they are. It could be in Tuscaloosa. It can be between the hedges and Athens. It could be at the Georgia

dome. Now the Mercedes-Benz dome. It does not matter. I just don't understand in this situation. The drop is inexcusable on the deep ball. That is a unbelievable dialed up in the dirt play, an unbelievable throw. It's picture perfect all the way down to catching the football. Well, yeah, he took his ad. He took his ad, he took his ad off.

Doing it, bro. Hey, John. What did you think, Ryan Williams did? Ryan Williams had one just, just as perfect, Coach. Yeah, same way. He's struggling this year, Ocho. He's struggling this year. Yeah.

He's dropped a lot of, he's dropped a lot of plays. Remember Florida State? How many he dropped, Ocho? Yes, sir. He dropped a touchdown against Wisconsin. I don't know maybe the celebrity or the fact, but I don't know if it's lack of concentration. But he's not,

he doesn't look like the guy that we saw the first seven, eight games last year, this year. Yeah. Ocho, I got a question for you both. You guys go into games. You go through spells as a receiver where you maybe have some drops. You're not seeing it in. Oh, absolutely.

What is the process for you guys? I see guys go out to practice jug machine. Wop, wop, wop, walk. Yeah. Take an hour out there. Yes. Feel it, get your feel, get your flow back. But for you guys, I want to hear, I'm curious.

That's what I'm doing that situation. Yeah. For me, when I got the yips like that, especially in a game where I dropped two, maybe three balls, it doesn't matter how much jug machine I do Wednesday, Thursday, Friday. It's nothing like in-game situation. I need to touch the ball. I need to feel the ball early in a game. and my coaches already know that ahead of time.

Don't give me a route. Don't give me a slant or a curl. Throw me a smoke screen. Throw me a bubble. Throw me something quick so I can get my confidence back. Once your confidence is shot at the dropping two or three balls, it sticks with you, Johnny. It sticks with you.

Unk, you know how that feeling is. Just let me touch it real quick just to get myself acclimated and back-in- He ain't sleeping tonight. For me, I wanted the passes that. I dropped, I go through the same route. So if I was dropping the out route, I would go through that motion and have the, and catch it on the jugs.

I'm not just standing there like this here. So I'm going through the motion, or I'm going to have the quarterback to throw me the ball that I struggle with in the game. So if it was a slant, in much of the time, I struggled on the left-hand side. So I'm lining up on the left

and catching the slant like this. So I struggle with that. So that's what I would work with. If I struggle with the basic cross, if I wasn't catch, even if I caught the ball, Ocho, and Johnny. And I didn't catch it clean. I consider that a job because now I'm bottling. Had a guy been there, I would have dropped it because me probably he hit me.

Now the ball could have got popped up could have gotten popped up in the air or it could have hit the dirt. So anytime I didn't catch it clean, I worked on that. But a spell might be in a game. It wasn't no, I wasn't going no struggle in this game, struggling that game. Clean for two more games. Struggling. Hell my. It wasn't none of that. Nothing like that. So I just think the thing is, Ocho, when you have a lot of success, and he had a lot of success last year. Early, early. Yes.

Early. And sometimes we start to read the press clippings and we start to believe. And I don't know if we're putting the work, the same work in. But you can't drop the, that's routine. Because on the road against the number three team in the country, that is a ginormous play, Ocho. We've taken the crowd completely out of it. Now, they did go down and score.

But you want to hush a crowd, a hostile, crowd. Big plays. Big plays. Hey, man, we've seen him do it last year, huh? We've seen him do it last year. Most of the time against big teams and big games. So we know he's capable of doing it. All he got to do is just watch. He didn't get Georgia last year. Yeah, yeah. Remember he caught the one

and he stopped. Stop. And his pirouet and came back. Yeah. Yes. Yes. Listen, all Ryan got to do, just lock back in. Lock back in. Remember where you at? Remember how you got there. That's a good thing, though, too. He can't come out this year no matter what. So he gets the year no matter what. So that's okay. Let him develop.

Let him go through this. Yeah. Let him have his. He's going to struggle to get to 1,000 yards. He's going to struggle unless he really pops off in the back half of the season to go for a thousand. Right. For him to come out this year after the season he had last year and have seven, 800 yards will be a disappointment. That's a hungry dude in offseason.

Yeah. Yeah, but those other guys kind of stepped up in his absence. But I was surprised. I like Horton. Brooks had a big play, had some big plays. But I was surprised that Georgia, how poorly Georgia started the game. You know, I think they had a turnover early. As soon as they got the ball, they turned it over.

Georgia normally comes out, look, this is not the same Georgia teams that was winning national championships with all those five-star defensive linemen. Yeah. That was going, you know, they had five guys going to first round, and they got an offensive lineman going the first round, and you got a James Cook, and you got this one and that one. they don't have that level of talent they talented not don't get wrong so i don't want people to say i don't know i don't know right now if i'm picking anybody over high oh but they

can't feel do we think they got enough offensively you like stockton you like stockton that much it made some good throws tonight that that that that ball that was dropped that's a good throw There's a time, third down, third and nine, where he stepped up and ripped some balls. And that's what I look for throughout the night and a game. Big plays. You need something. You're backed up and you step up with confidence and you really let one come out of your hand and let it spin. You caught it, kind of got banged around on a third and nine.

Like that's a good throw, a confident throw. That's one against a good defense, a good team you build on. So when you see stuff like that, is it consistent enough? That's why you're making that face. is it consistent enough. Right. Not. But you grow as the season goes on.

You learn from this. You go back and watch the tape. Look, they got their work cut out for them. Bandibelt, this is not your father's and grandfather's Vanderbilt. I went to dinner with Diego Pavia tonight. They hungry. And guess what? I'm going to Tuscaloosa, Alabama on Saturday.

And I'm on the bandy sideline. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, because Alabama, Alabama say, we owe y'all, after what y'all did does last year. We owe y'all big time. It on is what them boys are saying. Vanderbilt. So Georgia, Alabama's slate, Vanderbilt, Missouri, and Tennessee. You remember Tennessee beat them last year.

Vanderbilt beat them last year. It was those type of games that ended up keeping them out, although they were playing well at the end. They ended up keeping them out of the college football player. as they extended, you know, added more teams to the playoffs. So it's going to be interested. I don't know, guys. Let me know what you think, Johnny.

Man, had Kalin DeBoer lost this game? Boy, they already called him for his head. Yeah. They already call him for his head. A game like this, buy him some time. I believe. Game like this buying some time. Yeah.

Two weeks ago, two weeks ago, we used a lottery money. yeah they still might they got another lottery I don't know if anybody wasn't mega millions but they still they still they still with it and people like well Alabama look I think we Texas A&M just for for for sake Texas A&M has 20.4 billion in endowment money Alabama has 2.6 billion huh Florida Florida that's what we were talking about Florida and what's the guy's name, Billy Napier, buying him out versus what Texas A&M did with Jimbo.

Jimbo. You see the difference, 20.4 billion in endowment and 2.6 billion in endowment. So this notion at Florida, no, no, no, no, no, no. Texas money is different. You're different. Florida money. You got to look under the couch cushions and shit. Yeah, but hey, they did it up your a here.

Think about it. They gave that man 80 billion. They say, you know what? 82, 82, 82. We give you 82 to go away. And you go get another job, you still get to keep the 82. Yeah. Let that sink in.

A lot of times, like NFL, what they're due, they're like, if you get another job or you become a coordinator, you become an analyst, they deduct that. Right. Takes them and I'm saying, nah, we don't even care. Jim, Fisher, wake up every day and look out on the porch and smoke a joint, and like, damn, thank you, Aggies. Hey. Yeah, that's a nice coach.

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or wherever you get your podcasts. Toyota, the official automotive partner of the NFL. Visit Toyota.com slash NFL now to learn more. Yeah. The Oregon number six, Oregon Ducks, goes in to Beaver Stadium. Sharks the number three Penn State knitting the lines by the score of 30 to 24 in double overtime. James Franklin coaching in his 12th season at Penn State is now 4 and 21 against top 10 opponents. Four and 21.

I tweeted, is he ever going to win a big meaningful game? Well, he went to the college football player. All I know is that he's 4 and 21. Now, y'all think is that acceptable? No. Is that, now, all I know is when I grew up, grew up, Penn State was a big thing. They, they, a Joe Pa, rest his soul, they won.

Yeah. And more times than not, he won games like that. Go back and look at that 87 National Championship game against Miami. They had no business winning that game. You look at what Miami had as far as, is Terster Birdie and Jerome Brown and Danny Stubbs and all those guys. Yeah. Penn State had no business whatsoever winning that game. and Penn State was known to win games like that.

Right. I think if I'm not mistaken, I think they beat Georgia one year for the national championship or they kept Georgia from winning the national championship. I'm just shocked that somehow he will find a way to lose to Ohio State. He'll find a way somehow, Johnny, to lose a game. You're like, okay, they're at home. They're going to win this one.

Oh, they got this one in the bag. And he'll F it up. Yeah. I mean, they were close to all games. Johnny and Unk. It was a very good game, a very defensive game. Obviously, I don't, I'm, I'm confused as to where are all the stars. There's always, every, every team always, especially like Penn State, there's always a star. Nobody stood out. Nobody stood out. I think everyone's somewhat even. And that's what I was looking for. I was looking for one player, one or two players that stand out

and make a difference in that game. And nobody stood out to me. So at that point, it all comes down. It all comes down to the decision-making and an important situation on who make the fewest mistakes that was going to win that game. I think I'm not impressed with that quarterback. Exactly. You look at number one-five. 14 to 25 for 137, two touchdowns in the pick. You go to their running back, the rush game, leading rusher, 12 carries, 54 yards. You go to that leading receiver, four catches, 48 yards. That isn't enough on that side of the ball.

That ain't going to get you a win. Yeah. It really isn't. We're talking about 15 being a guy. Can he go to the league? Is he the best quarterback in his class? Is the guy who showed flashes last year? You don't want to step up and be that guy in that situation, man.

137 ain't it. You're supposed to have that in a quarter in college. A whole game, a double overtime? Thank you. So you get extra possessions in overtime. You got, you played a game. in two extra possessions, and you had 137 yards passing. So you're at home against Oregon,

and I'm supposed to believe that you are top pick. I don't know. Here's what I'm thinking about it as well, though. Let's look back to the last year. Oregon played Ohio State early on. Great game comes down, and then you look what happens in the playoff. Completely different thing.

So I respect James Franklin. I like him as a coach. as a human being, as a program leader, I understand in big situations, four and 21, there's something going on there where you get nervous or you tighten up or get a little what,

whatever it is. Four and 21 in big games, come on. Get those darts at a wall blindfolded and hit more of four than 21. What are we talking about? But at the end of the day, you can look at this as we played

the number six team in the country, really tough. And if we see them again, come on. It's all about perspective. I didn't have handle this loss. But here's the thing you at home. I agree. Don't get no about it. See, I didn't think Oregon. I didn't think Oregon was going to be Ohio State. They lost on a two-point conversion Ohio State at Oregon. What the hell you think that was going to happen if you meet on a neutral site? What happened? Yeah. The doors blowed off of. If Oregon meet Penn State on a neutral site, again, if that's fortunate enough to happen, right.

Doors blown off because they still got Penn State. I mean, excuse me, they still got Ohio State. They still got Michigan on schedule. So are we sure they already got one loss early in the season? Are we sure? Are we sure Penn State when it's all saying nothing's going to be there, Johnny? I mean, look, next week, UCLA, bop, bop, northwestern, bach, Iowa.

Easy. Okay. Maybe they give you a. Oh, they're going to lose one of them, Johnny. That's Penn State. That's Jay Franklin. He's going to lose one of them. You come down to a matchup of us Ohio State.

And for me, I ain't as confident as you sound in Ohio State's quarterback play. They're good as a team as a unit. You rely on your D. You got the receivers. You got the pieces. I ain't as confident in them as most people. are. And then look, you got Indiana, Michigan State, Nebraska, Rutgers. Nebraska, I mean. What do they play Nebraska at? At home. Yeah, they probably win that one. So, I mean, you go through

it. You have a loss of Ohio State. You run the rest of the table. You have two losses. And you're Penn State. You're at three right now. You end up in the top 12 for sure. For sure. You might be right. The question is, what does Ohio State look like when it's all said and done? How many losses do Oregon have when it's all said and done? I don't believe, let's just say for the sake of argument, Oregon runs the table. Does Oregon play Ohio State in the regular season?

Or they can only play in the end of the championship game? They're getting ready to do away with championship game. They did not play Oregon this year. Okay. Let's just say everybody's undefeated. I don't believe they take it three times out of the big team. Illinois. Whoa,

Illinois not a cake wall. Okay, that's going to be a good game. Give you that. That's a good game. Minnesota, Wisconsin, Penn State, Purdue, UCLA, Rutgers, Michigan to end the season. They don't lose more than two. They're in. True.

Right. That game, that Michigan game is going to be tough. I don't know what it is. Michigan, Michigan seems to something's up. Something in there. It doesn't matter. They find a way to play to scratch, claw, and dig out a win against Ohio State. No matter how talented Ohio State is, Michigan somehow finds a way to win that game.

It's been there. We see it. Every year it happens. Yeah. But I'm just surprised that Jane Franklin, think about all the time, Johnny and Ocho, that we've seen. Michigan, Penn State, have a superior team only to lose. Drew Aller, look, and he might turn out to be one of the greatest Penn State quarterback in the NFL, and that ain't saying much because Penn State ain't had a whole

lot of great quarterbacks in the NFL. You go back to Chuck Fassana and you go back to Todd Blackledge or the Liddle, a, uh, uh, a Carrie Collins, no difference. Carrie Collins might be the best, but he does not impress me. As my grandma used to say, he doesn't razz my berry. I get nothing. I get nothing. I get nothing out of that.

I really don't. I'm looking at him, bro. I'm like, bro, what are we doing? And people have him rated really high, Johnny. Am I missing something? I mean, when it comes to the quarterback position, the quarterbacks are rated with it. There's not much else out there.

There's not much us out there. We've been talking about the quarterback play. Even our boy Castellanos, who we were so hype about last week. I put some money on Florida State on Friday night? That ain't it. That was tough.

They're sick. They're back to the drawing board. Yeah. I think Florida State might have been feeling their self a little too much. You see what happens, Ocho, when expectations come? You see when they played Alabama,

they ain't have no expectations. Right. Now all of a sudden they're undefeited, they're on the road, and now you have some expectations. Could Florida State make the, you know, the college football playoff? now you start to have expectations no one had expectations for florida state until they did

what they did to alabama right now all of a sudden damn to that right man look i i don't i don't get it like i said penn state four and 21 four and 21 Penn state is four in twenty one against top 10 opponents it is not like they haven't been ranked in the top 10 them their damn cell so it's not like that's a top 10 opponent and we're unranked or we're in you know we're 20 we're 25 Penn State a lot of time is ranked in the top 10 them dams their damn cell. I look maybe they're afraid they can't find anybody else than Drane frankly but I'm not so sure that he would have been able to beat any other institution this long with the pedigree that an institution has as long as Penn State I'm shocked I am.

absolutely shocked that he's been able to be there this long. You're not going to be at Alabama. You're not going to be at Georgia. You're not going to be at any of the Ohio State with that. No, sir. No way, no way, no how four and 21 and you lose it to the Ohio State damn every, basically every year, how many times it'll be the Ohio State since he's been there once? I think you get a little bit more leniency with understanding that you are playing

superior school. If you get a little bit, if you can somehow get a win, yes, you understand that Ohio State has the better players. There's a thing that keep getting into the playoff, they get into the playoff and go look good and be competitive. That's the thing.

They keep getting, wiggling their way in, just good enough, bare minimum type stuff. So when you do that and you look back in the season as somebody who's overseeing that whole program, You're like, you know what? You don't forget about that loss of Ohio State. You don't forget about that.

Like, oh, we went to the playoffs. Damn, a couple of plays go here, our way, here and there. Like, we're good. You look at that perspective. But in reality, when you lay it out, you lay it for what it is, if you're a top program, yeah. How many times?

I think the biggest thing is this is where you measure, coach. how many times does he win a game he's not supposed to win? See, you look at Nick Saban and all the times he beat Georgia when he wasn't supposed to or he beat an LSU when he wasn't supposed to or he beat no or he beat these teams. How many times were we going to a game and we say, man, Penn State ain't got no chance of winning this game and they win it. They do, why don't you?

If it's a 50-50 ball game, they lose. So if we're looking at it and we're saying, okay, This is a game. I want to see somebody with Coach Belichick. Coach Belichick, a lot of times he's winning games. Like, he wasn't supposed to beat the greatest show on turf. He wasn't supposed to beat the Legion of Boom. He was not supposed to go on the road and beat Patrick Mahomes.

You have to win in order to get the credit that you deserve. You're going to have to win games. You're not supposed to win that Super Bowl in Atlanta. You're not supposed to win that Super Bowl in Atlanta. That's how you became Johnny. If you go to Alabama, if you go into Alabama and you lose, you're not Johnny football. You've got to win. You won a game that you weren't supposed to win.

Nobody gave you a chance. Y'all was what, two, three touchdown underdogs? But I don't, okay, Johnny, the funny thing about it is obviously sometimes coaches are supposed to win games that they shouldn't win to get the recognition, but it's hard to win game you don't have the personnel it's hard if they they take to bake a cake but you ain't got no goddamn no no mix you got you understand what I'm saying well make cornbread make something make something palatable you know what I mean but I get also you're right but that's the thing is winning let me ask your question who had the most talent the greatest show on turf

are coach Belichick's patrons Yes, a game you're not supposed to win, you're under man. The great ones find a way no matter what. There ain't no excuses. Yeah. Giants versus the Patriots. One team is 18 and 0. One team got, some argue, the greatest receiver ever.

Mm-hmm. The greatest quarterback ever, the greatest head coach ever. Yeah. Tadda. Yeah. So sometimes you win games when you're under man. That's, oh, Joe, if all I do is win when I got the best team, how good a damn coach ever?

Yeah, you're right. Jay, frankly, at some point in some point in time, you're going to have to win games that nobody doesn't expect you. And now you're at home, you're the number three C. People were expecting you to be to Oregon. Because you're the high-ranked team and you home. And somehow you find more times than not. So based on this in 25 games against the top 10 opponent,

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I don't know how you get two names. You get a war eagle and you're a tiger. But anyway, improved the four and no since the first time since 2016. Auburn finished the game, oh of 13 on third down conversion, and had just 177 total yards against A&M. A&M had 414. Marcel Reed, not turned the ball over against Texas A&M, and hadn't had committed 13 penalties,

the final score would have been a lot worse. Johnny, that's your team. What did you like about what you saw from? Listen, I talked to him every night after the games. And as you're going into games like this and you're getting into SEC play and you're playing a good team like Auburn, you have to find ways throughout the season

to go out and get a win, whether it's pretty, whether it's ugly, whether you have some penalties. Look at it. a hole 15 to 22 at seven incompletions doesn't throw a tutty 207 yards passing and for him he rushed for minus 23 yards for a guy who uses his legs that's an off night for him but look levy on moss 21 carries 139 i've talked to him every week what i've told him is listen, as good as that feels and much as you want to go out and celebrate, learn for me, man.

Learn for me and buckle down. You were in a place that we ain't been in in 10 years, 9 years. Yeah. Grind it. Go back this week. Go harder. Take this, run with it, and go. Get better.

Use the film. Use the stuff. Go to practice. Take everything you can. The party going to be there. And the party going to be better whenever you get to the SEC. championship game, whenever you keep winning, whenever you keep stacking good days, good weeks. So I'm in his ear every week in the most positive of ways. We're going to enjoy this

for a couple seconds right now because it feels good and you should enjoy it because it is a good team win. But at the end of the day, everybody in the country is waiting on A&M to be A&M of the past. The way you stick out and be legendary is to go and do what hasn't been done. He wants to go be up there with me at Texas A&M, keep winning. Keep doing your thing. Keep being a leader. That's how you get a statue. That's how you get your name on the building.

That's what you want. So right now, so far, so good. Everybody's waiting on the Aggies to Aggie. And there's a couple people that can keep that in perspective and keep it rolling. Look, Alabama, A&M defense was coming. I mean, 24 rushes, 52 yards. 18 or 33, you had 33 pass attempts and you only had 125 yards passing. That's what you're supposed to have 125 yard passing in three drives.

Yeah, them boys playing good defense, that real good defense. Most of the time you think about college football too, on Johnny, defense is the part where they really don't play very well. It's hard because all these spread offenses and all this motion, this zone read stuff. If you see if it's infiltrated, NFL. NFL set their personnel down there to study Baylor, to study these lay and to study these open offenses. You see a lot more of that now college

offense into the NFL as opposed to the NFL in college. Ain't nobody dot in the eye. You find very few backs. Basically the only team that really gets in the eye is you got Derek Henry and Jonathan Taylor. Damn to everybody else is on the offset. Because very few, very few quarterbacks are under center now, Johnny. Mm-hmm. A lot of these guys get to college, Ocho, and they have never, ever taken a snap on the center. Under center, yeah. Some guys get to the NFL and they ain't taking a snap on the center.

Yeah. The first time they take a snap on the center is at the damn pro date. Look at Johnny. Johnny raised his head. Like, we have maybe six snaps in two years where we went under center. I got to the NFL. I'm like, what the fuck is it is? You feeling good about your ag and you think they can make it all the way down to Georgia?

They have the pieces they need. They got, if they can, if they can come together as a band of brothers, and they can look at it and say, you know, this defense, we stout. Offense, what we did versus Notre Dame, we can do versus anybody in the country. But it takes a special unit, not one's buying into the hype, not one's getting lackadaisical, not one's taking a week off and practice like, go, we play somebody that we should beat this week. Somebody can come up and catch you.

And that one game changes your whole trajectory. So are the pieces there for A&M? Are they a contender? Without a doubt. They played well enough against teams that are solid to prove that. But it takes consistency and it takes them coming every week with your lunch pail. You got to come and bring it. That's just what it comes down to.

So if you want it, it's there. You got the pieces. Now, insurance or whatever. Sure. But they got the pieces. Do you guys got Texas or Oklahoma on your schedule, Georgia? We got Texas on the road. That would be a good game.

There's no love loss between you guys. And last year was a brutal one. Last year was tough. In our own house, bringing the rivalry back, we ain't sniff a chance to win that game last year. Yeah. And y'all tried to block Texas from coming to the SEC. What are we doing?

doing it was all good when we wanted to go but when they want to go we're mad about it there's some things there's some things to go on at a and them that you got to look at and kind of be like what are we doing but yeah that just is what it is everybody wants their cake and to eat it too and to keep keep them out of something that's been really great for us but like listen if 2012 didn't go the way that it went for us our SEC trajectory could be way way different when we were coming into the All we heard was, you boys need to get ready. You're going to get smacked. This is different than what you're used to.

This ain't Iowa State. This ain't Kansas State. Now, we set ourselves on a good path with 2012 and 2013, but then there's a big lull there for eight, nine years, where we really haven't had a lot of success. Outside of 2019 or 2020, Kelly Mons last year, and it was the COVID year, and we went to the Orange Bowl, lost one game, we haven't really had a lot of success.

So for us, this team has the chance to do what hasn't been done at Texas A&M in a long time. And for us and the type of program we are, if you're being honest, double-digit wins for us are something that are truly program changing. But we're in the second year of Elko. We go through the buyout. We go through the jokes. We are the butt of the joke for years. Oh, you pay Jimbo this. He has to go.

You pay him off. You have success in the second year of Elko. You really start to build on something where that. that money now makes it worth it. Absolutely. When you pay Jimbo that kind of money, you got to get to an SEC championship game. You got to get into the college football player.

It's just a way of life, Ocho. You know, Johnny, you understand this. You play there. You know how devout and loyal that fan base is, and you know how those big boosters are. They emptied, well, they found some money in their cushions to give Jimbo that kind of money. I didn't say they emptied their pockets,

because they got deep pockets. Their pockets go down to the head. They probably had that catch. So they didn't have to dig too deep to find that. And so the expectations, like you said, you keep winning these games. And like you said, okay, you win double digits. But at some point in time, they look over there and it's like,

nah, we're in the big boy conference. We want to play for the 16 years in and you don't go once, unacceptable. I couldn't get it done. Can't get it done for the nine years after. 13 years in at a conference, you don't sniff it. unacceptable so they're going to have to um they're going to have to figure this thing out you believe they have the type of team that can get there it's i mean this thing is going really be tough i mean texas and oklahoma say they got something to say about it georgia

has an cc loss but hey they're like hey we got something to say about it bama doesn't have an cc loss yet but they're they're probably they're probably six or 17 Tennessee vanderbill that's a six and seven team that says, you know what, we think we got a realistic chance of being died in Atlanta. Look at the end schedule, though. Next week, Mississippi State, then we play Florida. We've already harped on Florida enough where they don't deserve no air time. Arkansas, okay. They got the doors blowed up. We have their number, all right. LSU, late in the 1025, all right? That's going to be a good game. Last year, Brian Kelly, you know Brian Kelly threw up on himself. Okay.

that's the one that sticks out. But outside of that, then you got Missouri, then you got South Carolina, then you got Sanford, and then to end the season, you got Texas. So like four, it looks as a schedule,

what the SEC could be, right, what your schedule could look like, I would say, overall, that's pretty favorable. Yes, you have to go win some good games against good teams. That's going to happen.

You're not playing in the Big Ten. You're not playing in the Big 12. You're not playing. playing in the ACC, not getting cake walks in conference. But if you look at who you can play versus who you have on your schedule, I would say it lines up really nice. Where you guys got the game, Cox, are they coming to y'all or y'all going to them? Okay.

And they beat us last year in a game that we felt like we should win. And they beat us bad. Yeah. So that'll be a, that'll be a very interesting game. Just, we'll see. Johnny believes his team could be I know you're going to be on board Lord have mercy

I can just imagine I can just imagine take A&M in the I will say it is I'm not going to give the whole thing away but South Carolina weekend those boys in that locker room from what I have coming in that game

are going to be more motivated than any team any game in the last 15 years of Texas A&N. I got a real special special treat coming for the Aggies November 15 fire program changing for us in my opinion you got Drake coming in huh he's working on the album we're going to Albany Bahamas work on the album okay okay okay okay I'm just checking just checking guys remember last week when Brian Kelly went on this rant about reporters asking about his offense well in a 2419 lost to Ole Miss the Tigers mustard two of 11 on third downs and like an effective running game. They trudged 65 yards on 21 non-sac carries with a long of 10. Garrett Nussmire once again had a very mediocre game against top competition. Nussmire managed less than 200 yards on 34 pass attempts, less than six yards, an average per

throw. Well, you know what, hey, let's not ask Brian Kelly about his run game because he won. So now, can we ask you about your run game now, Mr. Kelly? Hey, like you said, it was one game. Okay, I would ask, but see, Ocho, what's the, what's the model, Ocho? We never accept anything in a win. We accept me the loss. We wouldn't in a loss.

So I'm going to ask you now. Yeah. If this running game, is it acceptable, Coach Kelly? Because, you know, you were celebrating, you wanted to celebrate, we won the game. The guys ask you, say, we won the game. Guys, we won the game. Okay, now, now that you didn't win the game, do I have your undivided attention?

Now, Coach Kelly, I'd like to ask you about your running game because last week you didn't want to talk about it because you won. Can we talk about it now? What would you like to say about your running game? What's happening with your running game, Brian, Coach Kelly? I want to do that report to ask any questions after the game. I could be the report. I was like, Coach Kelly, I remember last week, you know, you said you had won the game and you didn't want to talk about it.

You want to talk about the win. Now that you didn't win, can you ask you about your running game? This game went over when Kiffin's daughter and the LSU dude, when that came out, he said, put money on the over. This game was over. Johnny, what am I missing about Nussmeyer? What am I missing? Listen, there were times last year in games that I watched with him where I came away really, really impressed. Don't see it a lot, but for whatever reason, this year,

we are seeing regression from guys who played well last year. Klutnik, Aller, Nussmeyer. They're taking steps backwards. And that's really, really rare. As the game goes on in college football, at least for me, because I can only speak on my perspective, the game got slower. It came more detailed.

It came more guys being in positions. You see so much of the same coverage. You don't see a ton of nickel, dime package, random blitz coming. You don't see a lot of different fronts. And you see the same base over, under, same conditions, a lot of cover three, teams that play quarters. So for guys who have now played, Nuss Myers played 20 games. These guys have played enough games, live bullets firing,

to where you've got to come out. And this should be toying with people. so it is weird and it is like really like something's going on to where they're not getting coached in the right way because i was fortunate to be coached by guys who pushed me who helped me learn the game to where things felt slow for me and i the next year was better it kept getting better and better and easier and slower so the point where you can do it with your eyes closed type of thing but a lot of it comes with confidence too sometimes you get a little rattled but what we're seeing right now he's a better player than what he's showing and that's

what i'm going to leave it at i'm not going to dogg on him he's better than what he's showing i think the thing is if there's a chance and this is what i always tell guy johnny if there's a chance for you to come out gone come out right because the only thing the only place you can go is down you can go down it goes back to i don't i know you don't probably remember this ocho georgia tech had a safety his name was kin's his name was kin swillings he's going to be a top 10 pick he came back he ended up getting drafted like the seventh round because he went to a bowl game and he had to cover and it didn't work out so well for it got he got he got exposed so that's my thing that I tell guys well you know no bro only thing you can do is get exposed and deficiencies

can be exposed and now all of a sudden boom if you can go out and be a first round pick man go on to get that money get close go ahead because now with the money that it is is, you can be a $300 million quarterback and you'll be 25 years of age. You can be a $200 million defensive player, especially lineman, D-Line or edge rusher, at 25 years of age. Go on and get close. You can get 300 million at the quarterback position and you can only go to the playoffs one time out of your first four years of your deal.

Yeah. So when I'm looking at, when I look at the guy that you mentioned, Nussmeyer, I look at Club I look at Al or I look at I'm like and these are three games guys that everybody had like top quarterbacks I'm like what damn should do a problem thinking man I should

have stayed my ass in school I could have came back out definitely been a top 10 pick with this class. Yeah yeah I mean when I say literally nobody stands out nobody nobody week out like what you normally no nothing like that

I mean none of it it's been a while guys It's been a while that we could honestly turn the TV on and say, you know what, I don't see no quarterbacks to get excited about. You wake up on Saturday and you're like, damn, I'm excited to go watch right now. I have to watch that game. None. None.

I mean, I don't even know. Johnny, are they even going to give the Hizeman out this year? I mean, you got the award so you would know, are they going to give the award out this year? They just going to hold on. A couple guys out there. are floating, doing enough. Like Diego Pavia has a real chance. He got a chance if he goes and continues to play.

Six studies today, five passing, one rushing. Big games on the schedule coming up for them. You play Tennessee. You play Alabama. You're at Fandy. Yeah. You win the season, 10 and 1, in the playoff. You keep doing what you're doing.

You play the way you play. Marcel Reed. You guys run the table, go undefeated. Yeah. Come on. man, I'm looking at some of these guys. I'm like, damn. The committee is going to be like,

nah, we're good. We're holding off. Hold on to it this year. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We're going to have a. Hey, then go ahead and slide me another one. Hey, I'm sitting here trying to think about that question you just asked. When it comes to college football, what team do you sit there,

or even a player? Most of the time, we've always gotten one player on one team. Yeah. Yeah. You watch. Maybe Ohio State and Jeremiah Smith. That might be the only one. You're the only one that you get excited about.

Yeah. And then you get frustrated when they don't throw him the damn ball and then I turn the TV from him. Yeah. Because maybe I'd be thinking to my head, well, maybe I'm bringing a bad look. Maybe because I'm watching and he know I'm watching and they won't throw in the ball. So maybe. So now I don't know. It's only week four.

We need to give them a little more time. Maybe they're a little rust. Maybe it's one of them years where taking a little time. little time. Rust off. Johnny, you weren't like that. After you won the house,

when you came back, you picked right back up. That's what guys do. Go back and look at the guy. Look at Trevor Lawrence. When Trevor Lawrence stepped on, when he stepped on campus, Trevor Lawrence ended up taking the guy's job,

wins the national championship. He's like, that guy's going to be the number one pick. And I'm a damn. He played like he was going to be the number one. Hey, James too. Yeah. James.

Yes. Yeah. Boehler. Baker. Collar. Marriota. I mean, come on, man. What do we do?

What are we doing here? Look, and I understand. Maybe that's unfair. It's not unfair to have these expectations when I'm just going by the projections and everybody. Look at these guys. These guys can spin it. Bro, I'm looking at these guys and I am unimpressed. Yeah.

I think all of, I think of the guys that we mentioned. leaves a lot, leaves a lot to be desired. And it's not, they got, they got players around them. It's made, it's not like the club is a bear. And I understand, it's this college football. These guys are 18, 19, 20 years of age. But, I mean, we should have expectations. I mean, and these are the top guys.

Aller was everybody, you know, he come back, you're going to improve upon what he did at Penn State and Nussmeyer. I think his day. dad was an offensive coordinator, wasn't it, Johnny? Isn't his dad an officer coordinator? And, you know, and so all the guys that were mentioned, and I'm like, well, damn. I'm just, like I said, I haven't been really impressed with a whole lot of

quarterbacks spinning the football this year. Yeah. Maybe I need to go out. Maybe I just need to watch some random game. So I did, uh, because I did, I did get access today to, uh, I've been talking with, uh, Jake Spavitall, who's the OC of Baylor. Their quarterback right now is playing at a very, very high level. He texted me today, you know, we had another one of those days

where our QB is playing high level football. And for the people who haven't tuned into a Baylor game, and you probably haven't because they're not really ranked, their offense and what he's doing at the quarterback position is something to go and watch, but he gave me access to be able to go watch the all 24 film and to be able to go see all the version. So during the weeks now, I'm really going to start looking

and seeing some of these guys. I'm going to come back with some good feedback on Saturday nights and some guys and be able to have some stuff to be able to show because it's out there. You just got to look hard enough to go find it. It's not the stuff you're going to see on the highlights in this and this and this and like because it may be from different teams. But right now,

especially going into this next week, Diego Pavia has a chance to really go into Tuscaloosa and do something this weekend. Really? This is the opportunity. I mean, Carson Beck, could Carson Beck? I mean, the guy from Arizona State, Leavitt. He played really well at the tail end of

last year. It's kind of playing well right now. I mean, we like him. I mean, I might have to start watching him. I agree. He's fun to watch. He's making some plays where I've seen five, six highlights clips this year. Go back into last year a little bit where you're like, okay, white boy, let's see it. The Division II transfer, Trinidad, Chambliss passed for 314 yards of a touchdown. His third straight game, his third straight, 300 yard game. since taking over for injured quarterback Austin Simmons. I mean, look, you can say what you want to say about Lane Kiffin. That mofo can call some of my coach.

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Man, that play that he called? Wait, which one? Which one? Which one? Which one? Oh, to get that first down. Yeah, man.

Yeah. Hell, I still don't know what the guy came from. Hell, I think he came off the sideline. I say, how did this big dude get so wide open? And he got the first down, said, no, I ain't going no further. Let me go on down here. We're good here.

And I love Lane because he shows emotion. I love coach. You know, these coaches, not these coaches. They be having this little pan. Oh, they're not excited. You know, that's what I do. Now, Lane was like, yeah, yeah. I like that.

Yeah, Lane being too. You got to look back at the days, even when he was in Alabama. And I love this because I would see it with Kyle Shanahan at times. I'd see it with Kingsbury at times. The elite A-plus coaches, when they have a play dialed up against the coverage, they know they're going to get in situational football. And you'll see it, Alabama.

The ball snap and his hands go up. And he already said, you already know quarters, got the basic, we're going to throw the post over the top. Safety's coming down because that's what he does. He's greedy going for the pick and launch it. All you got to do is step back, close your eyes, and throw it. So when you get coaches like that who know what they're going to get because they sit there and grind enough.

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