Club Shay Shay - Nightcap - Hour 1: Georgia takes down Texas, Buffaloes win big, Alabama upset

Episode Date: October 20, 2024

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson breakdown Kirby Smart, Carson Beck and the #5 Georgia Bulldogs handing Quinn Ewers, Arch Manning and the #1 Texas Longhorns their first loss of the season in a Saturday Night SEC showdown. Later, Unc and Ocho react to Deion “Coach Prime” Sanders’ Colorado Buffaloes one game away from being bowl eligible after a dominant win against Arizona and discuss Coach Prime calling out former President Barack Obama for his pro-Arizona football comments, Tennessee’s huge upset win over Alabama and much more!03:18 - Show Starts03:30 - Intro05:20 - Georgia beats Texas34:26 - Colorado beats Arizona40:10 - Tenn beats Bama45:10 - Miami beats Louisville50:24 - Mizzou beat Auburn55:40 - ASU coach kicking trials(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Ocho, let's get right into it. Yeah. The Georgia Bulldogs, the number five Georgia Bulldogs going into Austin, take down the number one, Texas Longhorns. They double them up 30 to 15. The Bulldogs will get their first, their, their road victory handing Texas its first loss to the season. Uh, the Bulldogs enter the game, the betting underdogs, the first time since 2021. Yeah. And that was the season over a span of 50 games. They jumped out to a 23 23 nothing halftime lead. And guess what? They really really never was challenged. The

top top five showdown did not. It wasn't what we thought it would be. Oh, no, no. Not even close. Quinn Ewers was benched temporarily. Arch Manning came in for a couple of series. And then when they came out of the half, they went back to Ewers. They got 15. I think they got it what? They got it 23-15. But Texas had a hard time moving the ball up and down the field.

An overturned defensive passing affair is called by the officials after the Longhorn fans threw debris onto the field late in the third quarter, something that you nor I, I don't think I've ever seen before. No. But when you watch this game, uh, what did you like about what you saw from the Bulldogs? Listen, pure domination, huh? Pure domination, especially that first half. The game is one upfront and Georgia pooled at the night. The first half goddamn Texas was over seven on third down.

They couldn't even get a third down. Listen, Jalen Walker. That's his name. Right. Am I saying it right? Is it Jalen or Javon? What is the defense line? But defense, man, Hey, he was on Jay walk. Yeah. Yeah. Hey, well you the real deal. I know you're going to see this jail. I walk a boy. You to boy. You was the real deal. I know you're gonna see this jailer walker boy You know boy use the real deal I will see you on Sundays other than that man the supporting cast for that that Georgia defense And it was all over the place obviously They played the quarterback carousel trying to get a spark on offense Texas did put an arch manning in but he was overwhelmed a little

Bit he was overwhelmed. No, we I know we look good when yours was out earlier in the season You know if you yeah, a few games, but they weren't playing that guy. They weren't playing Georgia. No, they weren't playing Georgia. Or the level of talent that Georgia has. Completely different. It's a different ball game.

Arch team in there tried to give them a little spark. It didn't work. They went back to yours. They started to get the offense going a little bit. They started to get it going a little bit, but not enough. Not enough. And again, that wasn't a PI too. On that call you talked about.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. It should have never been called. No, I've never seen. I've never seen officials go back and say it wasn't past interference. But the only the only reason they were able to deliberate on whether it was past interference or not is because all the fans do all the damn through all that trash and they didn't want to get it. Yeah, exactly.

So if they didn't have if they didn't throw all that stuff on the field, the call would have stood that the passing appearance, but the fact that you gave him too much time to, to deliberate, you know, boom, I mean, it just wasn't the DB had just as much right to the ball as a receiver and you can't make contact. You don't got to run into the man. What? And that's what I'm saying. That was, that could have been offensive because he pushed off and the ball was outside.

So the DB was already outside and so he picked it. But I agree with you. I had never seen anything like that. Not a call like that. It's almost like headquarters like that wasn't PI. Right, right, right, right. And all of a sudden, because I'm like... Headquarters like that wasn't P. I right right right The rest have

The rest of the year Yeah, they got because you know when they call when they call targeting you go to central control Oh, like the NFL when you have when you have a challenge you get a central control. So yeah, they're absolutely absolutely but still So, yeah, absolutely. But still, even though I believe it was the wrong call in the beginning, right, I have never seen them pick a flag up like that. Now, it's not not not. No, no. So it was the right call. But I don't know under the right circumstances, under the right circumstances

to do that, because everybody's gonna like man How did how is that possible? Kirby was like, hold on. Wait a minute You you picked the flag up. You said it wasn't pia Kirby wanted an explanation curb. I think everybody wanted an explanation But I don't believe the original call was right. I don't believe it was a defensive pass in the fair, so contact or whatever the terminology or phrase you want to use. I don't believe George, I don't believe the Texas cornerback.

I don't believe he hindered it. I thought the offensive tried to disengage by shoving it. But the ball was so poorly thrown, it was outside and it hit the DB right in the chest. So he had no choice but to catch it. I'm surprised And with the ease in which Georgia did this because Texas was only giving up six points they go on the road They beat they beat Michigan now after Michigan got beat by Indiana. Indiana is a little better than we thought They go on the road and the rival game they go to a neutral site and they beat the breaks off of Oklahoma.

Oklahoma just got trounced by South Carolina. The biggest, I think that's the biggest loss at home since 2014 or something like that. So now Oklahoma, so now it's got me, and I think the world will start, but it's got me reevaluating what I should think about Texas, Ocho. It really does. Yeah, they played some inferior competition and they hung points on the board on them. But when I look at their big wins, supposedly, allegedly, they beat Michigan

and they beat Oklahoma. Do we think Michigan and Oklahoma are really good this year? I don't think so. Absolutely not. Because most of the players that made them what they were last year and they were so good, everybody gone. Yep. Everybody is gone. So now teams are being exposed as opposed to the next man up and who's up. And they're living off of last year's success, expecting those teams to be just

as good. So Texas was exposed tonight. But again, I think the exposure came strictly from the interior and the Texas O line ain't shabby. No, no, no, no, no, no, neither is their defensive line, but it just goes to show you the level of talent that Georgia has. Your quarterback turned the ball over three times and you won by double digits. Hold on. Remember Ocho? He had that many turnovers against Alabama and they took the lead when you can turn the ball over like Georgia turned it over and still win the ball game. Well, you know, the problem is, is not only you turning the ball over.

Once you get the ball back, Texas, they ain't doing that with the goddamn ball. Yeah. You ain't doing that with the ball because the defense was playing that well. And then Texas gave four turnovers. They had two firmas by yours. They had one by art. Um, you, when you play a team like Georgia, you're going to have to be damn near perfect. And the last thing you can, you can do is turn the ball over. Yeah. Even if you were at home, because when you play a team like Georgia,

unless you're as equally as talented as they are, they're gonna run away from you. And there are not very many teams in the country that's equally talented that can match up with them on both offense and defensive line and the skill positions. There are not very many teams in the country. Now we're gonna see, we'll see what Oregon, if Oregon, if they play Oregon or

they play a Penn State or they play some of the other top teams. But when you look at Georgia and the way they're built, Kirby has built this team like those old Alabama teams where he was the D coordinator on. Let me go get O line. You build from, you build from front to back. You build from offensive line back, You build from defensive line back. Yeah, that's the way Coach Saban built those Alabama teams. That's the way Kirby Smart is building this Georgia team.

And they've enjoyed a level of dominance since what? Twenty one that we haven't seen in a while since those Alabama teams were doing it like that. But Georgia, Georgia is really good. Look, I know they've lost to Alabama, but it's hard for me to believe that there's a better team than Georgia. I know Oregon is the number is the number two seed at number two, rank number two, and they went on the road and they thunk Purdue. And I know they beat last week, they beat Ohio State at home. But watching with

my own eyes, I don't see a team better. Penn State, nah. At what point, at one point, do you think, what are the chances, I mean, at some point, I know they probably will, or I don't know, will Oregon play Georgia at some point, or it wouldn't be until there's some type of playoff implication? Yeah, playoff implication.

Yeah. They're on two different covers. The speed, the only thing with Georgia, I think they will still dominate in the trenches as far as upfront is concerned. Oh yeah, for sure. When I think the speed, the only thing with Georgia, I think they will still dominate in the trenches as far as upfront is concerned. Cause when I think about Oregon, I think about finessing speed. I think about finessing speed.

They got some hogs that they don't have no hogs like Georgia has, but I think the edge as far as in the game is because Oregon is so goddamn fast. Yeah. They so fast from sideline to sideline as far as skill position is probably equal. But I don't know, I think I think it would be a very, very good game. It'd be a very good game. But here's the thing. When you play Georgia, it's just like any you got to be

physical. You have to you got to be physical because they're not going to let you get outside and they're going to run. They're going to play they're not going to let you get outside. And they're going to run. They they're going to play. They're going to play bully football. That's the way they're built. They're built to play a physical brand of football. We're not going to get down. That's what they do. They they wear you down.

I was like, boy, Texas, y'all play it with fire. Y'all getting all these turnovers and you're not doing anything with them. I say, now, this momentum is going to shift. Now, what happens if you start to turn the ball over? Right. Because right now everything is going in your favor. You're creating turnovers, you're getting short field and you're not doing anything with it. Now, when this momentum flips, you start turning the ball over or Georgia.

Now, all of a sudden you don't turn it over. Even if you put the ball away, they hold you and you put the ball away. What happens when they get momentum? And you see what happened. Twenty three, nothing at the half. Hmm. So the Georgia Bulldogs go on the road to Austin, take down the number one long horse, 30 to 15, Beck did not play well, three interceptions.

Quinn Ewers did not play well. Ewers are gonna have to find a way in big, meaningful games. And I think there's one game, Alabama last year, I thought he played really, really well. He played really, really well, Locho. But he has an injury history and he hasn't played consistently in big games. Again, big games, yeah.

So it's gonna be very interesting to see. For me, after watching these guys, you know, Cam Ward, I like Cam Ward, but it's hard to say there's better quarterbacks that's gonna be in this 2025 draft that's better than Shadour. No, absolutely not. I think Shadour is the clear number one favorite as far as quarterbacks are concerned. I don't see anyone probably being picked before him as far as

number one is concerned. I think the next player after him would probably be maybe a D tackle, maybe a defensive end, maybe a right guard. You know, some of the big boys that have been playing very well this year, but Shidora is a clear favorite. He's a clear favorite. And I still think. I don't know if the injuries will play any type of part. I still think that Travis Hunter also has a chance to go. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Maybe top three, maybe top five. I would like to say top three if we can figure out, you know, the injuries and what's going on with them with those Ocho we got a factor in that's why they don't let guys play all those snaps your body Yeah, but he young. He young Playing 130 snaps a game is not conducive So playing 130 snaps a game is not conducive. Now think about that. He played 130 snaps in college.

Right. You think he gonna play 130 snaps in the NFL? Absolutely not. No. No, probably not. But what's happening to it? The body breaking down? Ocho, you can't play those snaps.

The body. Hold on, hold on. Wait, what injury? What is the injury? Do you know? He hurt his shoulder. Oh, you can't play those snaps. The body. Hold on, hold on. Wait, what injury? What is the injury? Do you know? He hurt his shoulder. Oh, okay, okay, okay. I don't think hurting your shoulder is really not a type of injury

that's a reflection of the snap play. When you get tackled, you fall to the ground. When you tackle somebody, you doing that a hundred times a game. Now, normally, Ocho, when you play offense, you might get hit. Ten times a game if you catch the ball, right? Or you fall on the ground. So imagine you get you play in 100 plus naps.

You tackle it. Oh, and you get tackled. Yeah, those hits are magnified. Right. Yeah. Yeah. So I think that's the biggest could he could somebody? Yeah, there have been a lot of guys that probably could have played it. But the game is fed up. It's a lot more people If it's a lot more conditioning now and he has the condition, right? But you're asking someone to put that amount of snaps on his body weak in and weak out

That's the biggest difference is the physicality in the NFL. Especially at the next level. But there's one person I would love to see do it. There's one person I would love to see prove those, I'm not going to say doubters, those that feel he can do it. I would love to see him do it. I'm sure whatever team he goes to, they're going to have some, like we've always said, I think you and Prime, Prime really won't give us an answer.

I think you prefer him to play DB. I prefer him to be at the wide receiver position simply from a financial standpoint, long-term with the type of money they can command when you're really, really good at what you do. I'm excited for him. He says he can do it. The fact that he believes he can,

but once you got it here and believe you can do it, despite what we may think, you know, based on the physicality of the game at the next level and how close the competition is when you're part of the 1% if there's somebody I think that that may be able to pull it off even if we feel he can't I would love to see him do it just to prove some people wrong well it's not a point that he can't yes he can do. But at what point is it a diminishing return? Okay. I see what you mean.

At what point does the him, the receiver, does it suffer? At what point does it, the DB does it suffer because you want to be great. But then you let's just say he's a great route, great wide receiver. But then his defense is, then it hurts the defensive side or he's great on the defensive side and it hurts the defensive side or he's great on the defensive side And it hurts the offensive side at some point in time. Oh, it has to be a diminishing return Some gotta give some gotta give That many oh, Joe you think about the most steps i've ever played in the game. I think it's about 93

And i'm just playing i'm just just offensive snap, right? imagine imagine playing 100 plus every game, 16 game, 17 games. Oh, Joe, that's 1700 plays. You know, that's two seasons. It is. But when you think about it, the level of competition and of the elites that are at the NFL level, he won't be able to just take someone's position on both sides of the ball like that. That's why I think we're trying to see you and I are smart enough to say, OK,

put him in packages, if he's going to play. Yeah. OK, we got a couple of packages for you on the offensive side. OK, we got some defensive packages, but everybody's talking about, oh, he's going to play both. He goes start both with offense and defense. Hey, that's tough. Why? That's tough. That's tough. And I mean, I would like people to be a little bit more realistic. I think for us that have played the game and those that also playing the game and that are playing the game right now, have a better understanding. You like,

you, you like the attitude of, in the feeling of I can do both, but with great understanding on how good everybody really is, You like the attitude and the feeling of I can do both. But with great understanding on how good everybody really is, that's a tall task. That's a tall task, boy. There's a lot of the, some of the guys that he played against, Ocho, is not gonna make it to the NFL. Every guy that he plays against on Sunday is in the NFL.

And that's when people say, oh this college team could be the protein she I said look even the Bama Florida State At 2019 LSU team put him against the worst put him against the worst NFL team They beat the hell they man the NFL team have beat the hell, them grown ass men. Hey, we talk about Justin Jefferson, Jamar Chase, Joe Burrow. Joe Burrow, Ed Woodler. They will get Mollywap, man. They get Mollywap.

People don't understand that grown, that's a grown man. Yeah. Y'all having a good time and that was a historically great team. It was. But them grown men now. It's a'all having good time. That was a historically great team. It was. But them grown men now. It's a different ballgame, boy. Bad, please. But look, he's a phenomenal talent.

He's as good a talent as I've seen. Now, I don't know how you quantified. I don't know how you quantified. Like I said, I didn't pay that close of attention to some of the guys because I was playing. So I didn't have the kind of time to some of the guys because I was playing. So I didn't have the kind of time like we have now to just watch Travis Hunter on both sides of the ball. I was in the league when champ Bailey was doing what he was doing.

I was in the league when Charles Woodson was doing what he's doing. And I was in the league with Miles Jack, but I wasn't really paying attention. Like if we didn't have a show like we have with nightcap where we're talking about a lot of different things on a night. Basically you got once a week we talk about something and then we move we moving on but in this situation to study it like I said I'm I'm pretty close to Bo's age I'm pretty close to times age those are the two greatest athletes that I've seen with my own eyes. Yeah Especially both shit

Man and like I said, I mean You know play offense and defense. I saw time do it. I saw time do it in the NFL. I saw him play offense and defense Yeah Start I saw him start, you know, they had had some packages for him, but it had been interesting to see. You know, next time we have more, we're going to ask him, do you believe you could have played an entire season playing both sides of the football? You know, I'm talking about every step, you know, I'm saying because we saw it. Yeah. Playing every step.

You're probably going to say, yeah, he might. He might. But the one thing he's going to be honest with you now. Yeah. He's going to say yeah. He might, he might, but nah, the one thing, he's going to be honest with you now. Yeah. He's going to be honest. I mean, he obviously has supreme confidence in his ability and rightfully so. I mean, the hardest thing to do, most people say the hardest thing to do is to hit a baseball. The man played in a football game and went and played in a World Series game. He's hit home runs, he's hit inside the park home is double triple. He's picked off a pass. He's run a putt back

He's run a kickoff back. He's caught a touchdown. He's run a reverse Mean we can finish outing because we've made it at the highest level. So we've seen this man On the baseball field Ocho and the height at the majors man on the baseball field, Ocho at the height, at the majors. We've seen him in super bowls. We've seen him build all pro. Like I said, he's been an all four with three different teams. Yeah. Only two other men have ever done that.

Tio and Ted store and Ted Hendricks. So that takes you to the level. I, if I'm not mistaken, I think time has all more, all protein than, than, than, than provost lecture. Let that sink in. I'm not mistaken, I think time has all more, all proteins than, than, than, than Provost election. Let that sink in. That's crazy. Like I said, Ocho, people don't, people don't realize how good time was because,

you know what I'm saying? We've been so far removed from it now. So you see, you know, you see the YouTube clips, but some things you only, you have to be able to see through your own eyes. See through your own eyes. Yeah. Hey, do you do you do you put Jordan? Do you put Jordan in that same class?

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. You got to be. Hold on. I'm saying being a two sport athlete, even though he tried his hand at baseball, but he know. No. I'm just asking. I'm just asking. I'm Julian Edelman. I'm Rob Gronkowski. Guess what folks, we're teammates again.

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I mean, you could try. I mean, yeah, he tried. I mean, you know, you know, but he didn't get called up to the majors. That's what the big boys are. Yeah. There are a lot of guys that are about a lifetime. It's kind of like, there's a, there's a levels to this. There's the NBA and then you can go to the G League. You can play overseas.

Right. The NBA is the NBA. You know, guys play semi-pro, but I played semi-pro. That ain't NFL. Right. NFL. That's what if you're talking about pro football. Now there were two leagues when they had the USFL

and a lot some of the guys Reggie White played in the USFL. Right. A lot of guys that played that came over and had Sam Mills rest his soul. He started in the USFL to field miles. There are a lot of guys that played in there, but people that look at them, Jim Kelly, Warren Moon, guys. But when you can you got you got your cred. You don't say you got your Moon, you guys. But when you can't, you got your cred. You don't say you got your cred, Ocho, when you came to the NFL.

Yeah. You get your cred when it says NBA, MLB. And congratulations to the Yankee, Soto, 3-1 Homer. Top of the tier, two outs, two strikes. Yah, yah! He came in clutch, huh? Did he? Yeah, I missed that one. Hey, all I He came in clutch, huh? Did he? Yeah, I missed that one.

Hey, all I know is he gonna cost about 500 mil too. Hey, hold on, what's the series, what, three one? Oh, they in the World Series, and so now they're waiting on the Dodgers. The Dodgers and the Men. The Guardians. No, they beat the Guardians. The Yankees just put the Guardians out.

Well, who the, who the, who the, um? The Mets and the Dodgers. Okay, okay. Well, they, hold on, the Dodgers is up like what? Two, three, one, two, huh? They're up three, one, yeah. Nah, three, two. Three, two?

Yeah. Hey, can you imagine that? A Dodgers and Yankees World Series? That's gonna be a good game, 7-L, boy. You got New York, you got LA. You can't get anything better than that. You can't get anything better than that. It's like the Lakers and the Celtics. Oh yeah. Like old school. In the 80s when you got Birdie Magic. You know I'm not much of a baseball fan. I don't watch baseball much but I'm glad to see, I'm not sure if the Steinbrenner is still the owner or,

you know, his son. I'm glad to see that. Hank and Hal. You play, you pay to play. I'm glad to see pouring that money into the team is finally paying off. That's always the thing to do.

The Yankees, the one thing you can never accuse the Yankees of, oh, they ain't paying no money. They've always paid money. They went out and got Dave Winfield. They went and got Reggie Jackson. They go get Randy John. They will spend the money.

Yeah. Well, now it's paying off this year. Mr. Steinbrenner, he's always been like that. If I'm not mistaken, he brought the Yankees from the CBS in 73 for like $7 million. That's it? What you talking about $7 million? Who wants back at the same? What you talking dollars. That's it? What you talking about seven million dollars? What's back in the seven?

What you talking about, that's it. I mean, when you think about it, I mean, you think seven million, like in today's time, like. Yeah, you know, it's 1973. And I ain't mean no disrespect to those that are watching. I ain't mean to casually just say that's it like that. I'm just, I apologize.

No, but they've always they've always spent money. They always have. They always will because they want to win. Yeah, they want to win. And they don't know. And could they like. Stuff their pockets with much more. Yeah. But he pairs with whatever trade that is that Mr. Steinbrenner had, he passed it down to his son,

because they would spend money. Now they just spent $40 million, 360 million for nine years for Aaron Judge. They spent $355 on the pitcher. They're about to spend $500 on Soto. Maybe six. Yeah, Juan, nice. Maybe six.

So. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, six might be a little steep now. Well, if you got to think, listen, if Ohtani just got 10 years, 700 million, the fact that he got 700 million is the fact that he can do so much. He's stealing bases. He can go out there and strike. You go out there and get you some strikeouts. And he a slugger. Well, he ain't got nobody this year.

Miguel Soto, we're gonna get five, gonna get Well, he ain't struck out nobody this year. Slugger Miguel Soto won't get five. Go get five, 56,000 million. One. So I keep saying Miguel. Juan Soto going to get six, five, 50, 600. Oh, Joe, we think he's going to stay with the Yankees and you're going to go some way else. Who got the most money? Because if Scott, listen, the way baseball players are, they want to keep the market

going, they go into the hospital. Right. Right. Now, the Yankees did something very unique with a judge. They offered judge like eight years, 270. Right. He said, nah, I'm good. He played it out.

He had that MVP season. Right. And they gave him something very few Yankees have ever had. They put that C on his jersey. Captain. Yeah. Now, there's been a lot of captains. But when you captain of the Yankees. That's a whole different ballgame. Different. That's different.

And a whole lot of men that worn that C had that C on the pinstripe. Hey did um, one of the greatest short stops of all time. Jeter, Jeter was captain, he was the last captain. He was captain right? Okay, okay, okay, okay. Yeah. I think Thurman Munson was a captain, probably DiMaggio. Right.

Yeah, but you talk about epic names when you talk about Yankees captains. Right, right. Probably Garrick. Probably Ruth. That's dope. That's live. I don't think DiMaggio was, I know it wasn't, it could have been Mantle not as much as he partied.

Nicky? Mickey? Mickey? Yeah. He's to party? I know it wasn't it couldn't be a man or not as much as he party Nikki Mickey Mickey Yeah, he's the party What? He said if he knew he was gonna live so long he took better care of himself Lou Gehrig Down mad at the other baseball judge and not judge. I'm not a judge. Obviously. And um, Jeter with thermal Munson captain, he died in a plane crash. I remember him. He used to catch it.

Ron Guidry. Okay. Okay. Yeah. I don't know him. You're going way back now. I remember, I remember Willie Randolph, the second base. But remember Ron Gidri? Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, Yeah, your Sanders went 23 or 33 passing 250 yards to touchdowns the Russian touchdowns with two interceptions Travis Hunter started that started after injuring his shoulder against Colorado as just Kansas State But with the 28-3 lead he sat out the entire second half to rest that shoulder The Buffalo's improved to five and two with a win today, but it wasn't five and two since 2014, man. I think I think 2014, something like that. Yeah. Yeah.

They look good today, man. They look like a completely different team. They look like a completely different team. I think they could have put up more points than they did, too. They could have put up more points than they did. And you say they're both eligible with one more win, right? You gotta get a six. They just beat Arizona.

Who do they have next? Do you know? I don't who they got who was on the schedule. Don't they got it? Do they play Arizona State this year? Cincinnati they got Cincinnati at home. Okay, that's a that Okay, that's a dub. What?

Texas Tech got trounced today. Texas Tech, they not good this year, huh? Hmm, they throw the ball around. Yeah, they always been like that. So hell, the Bucks got a chance to go seven and two. Yeah, the score was 28, seven. Colorado was up 28, seven at the half. Uh, and so Travis Hunter coach prime gave him the rest of the day off. They're doing a great job. They're attacking the quarterback.

If you look at it one, three, four, five, seven, look like they had like seven, they have seven sacks, seven tackle for losses. Defense is doing a great job. They ran the football, Ocho, they ran the football, 39 rushes, 148 yards. Webster had another big day receiving the ball, eight for buck 27, 23, had 23 completions for 250 yards, two touchdownss and they read the ball.

This is one of the times though, Joe, when you look at it, they had more rushing attempts than passing attempts. Yeah. And you know, you know, it's funny when you're running the ball efficient like that and you're gashing teams like that, it balances out the playbook. You can do what you want. You can do what you want to do in the pass game. You can, when you know you can run the ball. Mm hmm. It makes everything easier. Everything easier. Oh, Texas, they can't have bad day or five and two.

BYU sits atop the conference at four and old tie with Iowa State. At four and oh, K-State is three and one, they six and one. Texas Tech is three and one in the conference. Cincinnati is three and one in the conference. Colorado is three and one in the conference Cincinnati's three and one in the conference Colorado is three and one in the conference seven and oh seven and oh six and one five and two five and two five and two Kansas State has the advantage because they already beat me Colorado Colorado. Yeah So but this game, you know, hey, they can do some damage win against Cincinnati and they. I like, but I like, it seems to me that they are, they get better. They just can't have that low because remember what they did to UCF Ocho?

They went down there and they dominated most complete game. Even coach Brian came on and said, this was our complete, most complete game. Right. And then the next week, all of a sudden they forgot how to stop the run and how to protect your door. So hopefully they played, they, they like, you know what? This is how we got to where we needed to be. Let's continue this.

But that defense, the defensive line, they were attacking today. They did an unbelievable job. Seven sacks, seven tackle for losses. Yeah. You can win with that. Yeah. You definitely can win with that. Yeah. Well, definitely with that, and one thing to take note and no disrespect to them. But also the Arizona offensive line really what it should be. Yeah, true. It really what it should be.

So that's why I look like that. So if they can continue the same thing when they do play Cincinnati, if that's the next game. Now we talking. Right. Well, Cincinnati, they won today, I think to be Arizona State and the coach was upset at the kickers. I'm holding open trial for anybody that want to kick. Listen, very few times you coach us. Do coaches just be honest and tell the media exactly how they truly feel. Most answers and most comments are always politically correct. And listen, it's kind of sad or bad in a way.

You know, they'll talk about the coach for that, but hey, that's how you feel. Hey, huh? Yeah, we were talking about that lady. Coach said, look here, if you can kick a football or kick ass, come on out here. Come on out here and try. Come on out here.

Come on out here. Try it on Joe. But coach Brian Colorado, Buffalo's get to, uh, get to five and two with a very impressive 34 seven went over Arizona on Friday. President former president Obama attended the campaign rather than Tucson, Arizona said he saw buses for Colorado football team at the airport. President Obama said, Colorado got a couple of good players. Also know you guys are beating them twice in a row. Don't bet against the wild cast tomorrow.

Buffalo wind prompted other reporters to ask coach Prime about former President Obama's comments. I love him. I admire him. I respect him tremendously, but I heard what he said. We have more than a few good players. Come on, Fred, come on, Fred. That's a lie.

Oh boy, Tennessee, the volunteers dropped the Alabama Crimson Tide to five and two. It's the first time since 2007, Coach Saban's first year there, that they've lost two games before November. October can't end soon enough for Kaelin DeBoer. The number seven Alabama, first loss to Vanderbilt, then a narrow win against South Carolina. And today a 24-17 loss to Tennessee could doom this crimson tides hope for playing the

SEC championship game and reaching the college football playoff the tide manager 64 yards rushing against Tennessee talented defensive front Jalen Melrose tossed a pair of intercessions including one of the final minutes that sealed the volunteer win oh Joe yeah he needs to understand yeah his team isn't good enough to overcome his mistakes. Mistakes. Yeah. But not, not only that hell that goddamn Tennessee forget the Tennessee, forget the office of land that wouldn't allow Alabama to rush the goddamn

secondary. That was more surprising to me. How well the secondary played against Ryan Williams and the rest of those receivers, the rest of those receivers that Alabama has. They, man, they was on them boys like white on rice out there, man. Man. Every week, every week we watch Alabama play, there's always been a receiver with a highlight. Some 50 yard touchdown, 70 yard touchdown, you know, short stuff taking short, short routes, intermediate routes, taking them to the house. There was none of that today, but

there was none of that today. And then on top of the turnovers and not really being able to move the ball like you like, or put a point like we're used to seeing Alabama do, man, kudos to that Tennessee defense. Matter of fact, kudos to that Tennessee secondary they played well they played real well and some hell for a second I thought uh uh uh Melrose punting the ball the way he was coming out the way he was looking I like did you punt that or you threw it yeah hey they was on they was on him huh oh Joe but he's staring receivers down, bro. You can't do that If I promise you I promise you if you stare receiver down in the nfl Yeah, you will complete under 50 of your passes. Yeah, well shit always going the other way one of the other

One here, but you know, it's hard now You know It's hard when you're getting hit to be able to get the ball and you know, your ass supposed to be on the safety. And just the whole of safety there before you make your throw. Now when you shake it, you got, and you got happy feet. You want to see your target right away so you can complete the pass. And that guy jumped off sides. I don't know why, how they didn't call that a penalty.

Oh, Joe. Yeah. But that defense of it, Ocho? Yeah. But that defense, Ocho, he was past the tackle and Melrose hadn't even got the ball. Oh yeah. I don't know what they were looking at. I don't know either. He must have had a Tennessee, his parley.

Nah, I'm just kidding, man, nah. But I do think that was, I think most people think that was a procedure that he was offside of the situation like that. I was shocked. Yeah, I was surprised that they didn't look, they didn't blow it dead. But Miro has to play better. If you go back and look at the games, two over the gifts Vanderbilt last week similar situation gives Carolina they could have easily lost that game again another two

turnovers today he has to play a clean game Ocho because they're not good enough to overcome his mistakes yeah just not and he has he needs to understand that but I don't know it. It's looking, it's not. It's not looking good. Alabama lows two games. There's not November yet, but I kind of felt they were in trouble when they lost the Vanderbilt looking at their schedule. I like, they still got to go to Tennessee.

They still got to go to LSU. They still got the iron bowl with Auburn. They still got Ole Miss. Could I, could they Could I could they lose? Could they lose? Boy, Alabama lose four games in a season. I mean, it could happen. You think, listen, it absolutely could happen.

It could happen. I don't know who's schedule worse. As far as the gala is concerned, the Cowboys, would they the next five coming up or Alabama, would they next vote coming up? Shoot, both both is looking real grim. Yes, I don't even know what grim mean, but bleep, bam, not good. Oh, hell no. Yeah, it's a but I'm surprised, given that he started, you know,

last year and how he picked it up and how he played well. He started the season off, kind of reverted back. But this is not a good look, bro. The number six Miami Hurricanes keep winning close when beating Louisville, 52-45. The Hurricanes third in the ACC win in a row by one possession.

Cam Ward keeps putting up Heisman trophy worthy numbers after losing three interception and wins against Virginia tech and Cal. He stayed clean against the Cardinals, hitting 21 or 32 passes, 319 yards, four touchdowns while adding 29 yards in the ground war continues to lead power forward 27 combined scores. You're going to have numbers and they're going to have impressive resume as far as Williams Ocho. 52.

I think this is the fourth time this season that they've scored a 50 points or more, which is a, which is a program record. I think cam ward has like what six or seven, uh, consecutive 300 yard passing games, which is also a program record. So he's doing what he needs to do in order for them to keep his name in that Heisman Trophy conversation. Now Gentie, Ocho, it's just gonna be hard. He rushes for 2,500, 2,600, 2,700 yards. What he had today? Or they was on a buy? I think they were on a buy.

I mean, he's on a pace to... I mean, put it like this, not saying he's gonna continue, but he's ahead of the pace that Barry was on when he rushed for 26, 28. Right. He can probably get it. He can probably get it.

They'll get it. I would love to see if he was in. This base, no. What did Alabama them? What? If you see, I would love to see if he was in the SEC, would you still be able to put up those type of numbers in that type of conference? Probably not. I still think he'd be really good. Yeah, he'd be really good.

I just want to see what his numbers would look like. What they tried to do some team program that tried to lure him away, put him in the, you know, give him NIL money, but he stayed. He stayed anyway. He stayed. Boy, you better than me, boy. Yeah. You better than me.

All I need is get me this and give me give me a charger. Give me a child and I'm good. Yeah. Hey, give me something. I'll tell somebody, hey, my grandma need a refrigerator or a deep freezer. And then I'm gonna tell the other school, y'all need to build a house around that refrigerator

and deep freezer. So we gonna be straight. We got appliances already hooked up, Ocho. Yeah, no. Man, please. Hey, the way we struggling too? Yeah. Oh man, Ocho, hey, I ain't gonna lie, man.

Hey, it was rough on Mary Port and her family. Oh yeah. And if I could have made it easy, hey, somebody say, hey, Shannon, we got a, you know, we got 100,000 NIL money, bye. You add it up. Huh? You know how much a hundred thousand was back then?

Back in the eighties? Boy, stop. And, and you know, hey, the phone bill get to be like 75, $100, it's off for the month. We could pay that. Baby, please. Hell, no. Hey, hey, that's funny. Hey, my grandma working ticket and you were she working all them jobs, cleaning

people houses. I got to see my grandma go clean somebody house and you know, invade people and all kind of hell, man. I'm I'm telling you, I'm gone. I don't know. Yeah. Quake. I mean, what, what what what the hell am I doing it for? Right. Yeah, you all I'm all somebody giving me nil money Oh Joe is somebody give me a bag all they did was speed the process up because I'm doing this for her anyway Anyway, yeah, all you did was a you instead of having to wait to 1990 you sped it up You got me got me there a year or two quicker.

Yeah. Man, please, I'm gone. Gone. But you know, I tell you what, my brother had an opportunity to come out his junior year and I remember having a conversation with him. I said, man, you know, what you think? He said, they tell me I'm gonna be a first round pick.

And I remember having this conversation with him. I was explaining, we've been broke all our life. I said, we've been going hungry. Another year ain't gonna kill us. So, hey. If you tell him, if you say you'll be a first round pick, it's probably gonna be middle to later in the first. And they say the following, the next next year you could be a top 10

I'm good right I eat I eat a sausage and potty meat one another year one more year yeah hell yeah that's it so we'll I a I've been going to I've been going outside to the bathroom for 19 years another year ain't gonna kill me yeah don't Nope, done got rained on. It's thunder and lightning. It's cold. Go round on up out there, Ocho. Another year ain't gonna kill us, bro. Go back to school. Went lay right up in the house, look at,

see the sun, see the moon. It rain, hey. Oh, that's funny. Who else we got? Oh, that's funny. Yeah. Who else we got? Brady Cook returns from the hospital to lead number 19, the number 19 Tigers, Missouri Tigers to a comeback win over Auburn. Cook went to the hospital for an MII, but later returning the third quarter with Missouri

down 17-6. Cook immediately led Missouri on his first touchdown drive of the game redshirt freshman Jamal Roberts finished things with a four yard scoring plunge excuse me as Missouri defense stifled Auburn on fourth and 18 with less than 10 seconds left on the clock to secure the win cook returned and the fact that it looks like he'll be okay moving forward is huge for the Tigers. I never seen that like this. He pulled he pulled that Paul Pierce. I will. Yeah.

MRI come back in and I could fool. Yeah. But you know how long MRI take on. Yeah, I do. I've had I've had several of these bad ass heels. Hey, bad buddy, when it got to MRI, it came back and went crazy. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, I know how long it took.

It reminds me of a situation, rest your soul, Goose. Man. Sarah Goosa? Yeah, man, Goose. Check this out, man, Goose. We playing in Baltimore. Yeah. And I know the fans of Baltimore, I know y'all remember this. Man, Goose, check this out, man. Goose, we playing in Baltimore. Yeah. And I know the fans of Baltimore,

I know y'all remember this. Man, Goose got hit. Goose can't move, Goose can't move, so they come out there, they put a board up on his big ass and get him out the field. And get him out the field. Goose leaving the ambulance. Right.

Wait, he left in the ambulance? Next thing you know, Goose come running back out on the field. I said that. Man, I said come on, man. Man. Hey, what was wrong with him? Nothing.

He probably had to go to the bathroom. Hey, well, that's funny, man. God damn, Tony. Goose man, look here, Goose was always doing some. Meg, they had to get goose one time. They. Yeah, Lamar did. And also gets Cleveland. Meg Goose had to go to the bathroom.

Goose, whatever you do, don't roll me over. Man, Goose had to go to the bathroom. Goose said, whatever you do, don't roll me over. Man, Goose kept a bull job going. He really did. Man, I say, man, first of all, ain't no way in hell now, especially NFL game. They caught you off the field, Ocho. They don't let you come back in the game. Oh, no

Man, but if they make I think about that I think about some of the stuff that we did that they allowed. Yeah Ain't no way it wouldn't know where they allow you to do that Nope Cuz I got knocked myself out in the game against the Patriots on Monday night, right? Miss like two quarters man. They got laid the ball game. It's about a sharp We need you cuz they took my hair but at first oh you went back in the game got close Hey I'm holding three fingers up. How many fingers I got up three

Let's go you good I would rather Three. Let's go. You good. I will run over. Y'all gonna look it up. I will run over back out there with you. Hey, I know. Hey, yeah. But that was that was unbelievable. I'm glad everything worked out for Brady Cook.

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to podcasts. Arizona State coach Kenny Dillingham posted an apology on social media Saturday night for his post game criticism of kicker Ian Hershey. The kicker missed two fourth quarter kicks as the Sun Devil tried to mount a comeback against Cincinnati. Dillingham said Sunday the team would be holding kicking trials on Monday. Kicker missed two fourth quarter kicks as the Sun Devil tried to model come back against Cincinnati. Dillingham said Sunday, the team would be holding kicking trials on Monday. Our kicking game of the Trotters. So if you can kick and you're in Arizona and you're at Arizona state, email me. Right. We're going to have kicking trials on Monday. So bring it on kicking trials Monday.

Let's go. Yeah. I'm dead serious. We're going to put it out there on social media. We're going to have a kicking trial on Monday. We're gonna have a kick and try it on Monday We're gonna find somebody who can make a field goal. Hmm. It makes it It makes it even harder late in games when you're clearly a kick scenario That's what it gets really hard because you're like, hey, it's a clearly a kick, you know, definitely you want to take the points here

There's no doubt in your mind Dillingham later apology. I would like to apologize for my post game press conference. I talked about our kicking game like I do office and defense. However, the kicking game is already always directed at one player. I should not have done that. And I apologize. A team loses as we always a hundred percent falls on myself. Sun devil for life.

Hell nah, you don't fall on them. God damn yourself. It's the kicker's fault. It's okay. It's the kicker's fault. It's okay. It's okay to tell the truth sometime. You have one job. The kicker has one job.

You go out there to practice, you do one thing all practice for two hours. Kick the goddamn ball. Yeah. Sometimes the game is on your shoulders. You have to kick the ball to win the game. In this instance, you want to take the points? You miss field goals to make the game closer.

Maybe you might've had a chance to win at some point. You never know. You got to make your kicks. That's all you do. Hell, if you don't goddamn scholarship, they've wasted a scholarship on you as a kicker and you're missing the goddamn kicks. If you're at the next level and you miss the kicks, you know what's going to happen to you with it.

She is you're going to get cut. They're going to find somebody else that's going to make them. You know, I don't know. You don't, you don't need to apologize for that because all this does is get that individual. If he's choosing to be a kicker at the next level, this is how it's going to be. It ain't going to be no speech like that to the media. Ain't going to be no speech like that. It media. Ain't going to be no speech like that. It's just stuff going to be packed up in the goddamn locker

and they're not going to let you in. Your gate code ain't going to work at the next level. Well, you do realize like college, the scholarship is not for four years. That thing gets renewed every year. Oh yeah. Come on now. Because I know there are a lot of guys

that came in with me, the ones that didn't leave. Yeah. Once we got in and started doing two a days, cause like I said, Ocho, we ran before practice. Right. Cause coach Davis told us we had like 120 guys out there. And coach Davis said, I got 60 uniforms. He said, I got the trim to fat.

Right. Boy, I couldn't go home. Yeah. Cause I wasn't working in the field. I was done with the field job. I saw my uncles and I saw men that was 20 and 30 years older than me. Like I'm not going to do this. I'm not going to be working no job, making 20, 30 dollars a day for the rest of my life

with no benefits. And if I don't work, I need me a salary job. Even if I don't show up, I won't get paid. You know, when you work no job like that, I don't show up, I won't get paid. You know, when you work those jobs like that, oh, you don't show up. You don't get paid. You don't get paid. Yeah. It rained. You know, it rained. Oh, we can't go today. I don't get no check. I ain't got no insurance. So I was like, that ain't that ain't me. I leave it. Right. I leave it because I knew there was nothing back home

that was better than for me than what I had in Savannah State. Oh, yeah. So, but Coach Davis said, Coach Davis said, look, some of y'all ain't gonna be here next year. He just said, I know what y'all gonna do. Y'all gonna go home and you're gonna tell your mom and dad Coach Davis F'd over me. But when they come in my office and you F'd over my son, I'm gonna pull the tape out and I'm gonna show up. I'm gonna say, see, your son F'ing over me. Ooh, that's a good one. That's a good one. Simple. Yeah.

It's really that simple. Bro, it ain't complicated, Ocho. It's not. You got a job to do, do it. As in? You know, everybody's perfect, okay? You need to be more perfect than not. I ain't saying you gotta be perfect all the time. You need to be more perfect than not. I ain't saying you gotta be perfect all the time,

but you better be more perfect than not. Yeah, damn, at least 90%. So I don't know what y'all want me to tell you, cause this, hey, either get, Barney Porter, get good or get gone. You got two choices. You can get good, excuse me. You can get good or you can get going.

Yeah. Now, which one you want to do? Yeah. And especially when it comes to when it comes to this game, there's always someone that can replace you. Name the job. Oh, Joe, always name the job that there's not somebody lined up to replace who's in currently in that job. Every time, whether you're president of the United States, you're a senator, you're, you're, you're whatever the case may be, you're a minister at a big church.

I guarantee you that people lined up to get that position. Yeah. So you think as a professional athlete for a second, take professional side, name the job. There isn't a job that there isn't people lined up to replace somebody in said job. Yeah. So if you think you will get, Oh man, you know what? No, bro.

When you making money to do something, I ain't trying to hear all them damn excuses. I'm really not. Yeah. I don't, I don't think coach should apologize. If anything, listen, that's tough love. That's tough love. That's getting you, that's getting you ready That's tough love. That's getting you. That's getting you ready for the next level.

Because they ain't going to be no apologies when you make mistakes like that in the real world. Ain't no apologies. Hell no. Ain't no apologies. Sometimes you got one chance to mess up. Sometimes you don't have an opportunity to miss two field goals. No.

Sometimes you don't even get that chance. Oh, you do? OK, boom, you gone. Like I said, Ocho, when you grow up like we grew up and I had to learn this because a lot of how you raise your kids is how your parents and grandparents raised you. And it's hard for me because it like Coach Prime, this is why Coach Prime was a great teacher. He says, because you can't see those kids as you. And he doesn't do that. My grandfather was not big on repeating himself.

One time. He said, I'm not gonna chew this food twice. I'm like, you gonna chew that food more than twice? Are you gonna choke? Try to chew some food twice in I'm like, you're going to chew that food more than twice? Are you going to choke? Try to chew some food twice in twilight and see what happens to you. But what he meant, he wasn't going to repeat himself. And I remember a conversation he had with my grandmother.

And she said, Barney, don't be so hard on him. He's just a little fella. I was young, Ocho, but like I said, my grandfather died when I was in 77. So I was eight years old. He died in February. I was going to turn nine in June. And she said, Barney, don't be so hard on him. He's just a little fella. He said, Mary, he said, I got, he has to get what I'm telling him the first time. I said, he said, Mary, we live on a farm. He's going to be around every machinery.

He's going to be around these animals that are dangerous. He said, Mary, I might not get a second chance. I need him to understand the importance of what I'm saying. Right. And it really. And as I got older, I understood because because I see, I saw a man, Mr. Joe, Joe Tatum, who was the guy that we worked for, we worked for the Tatum brothers, but then they ended up splitting, splitting off. And he would always tell us, he's like, Peewee, my name was Peewee.

I know y'all guys can't believe it, but I was really small as a young fellow. So they called me Peewee. My cousin, he was named his name was Sundown. That was his nickname, Sundown, because, you know, he look up there and say, Mr. Joe, it's time to get off the sun going down. So they started to call him Sundown. But he would always tell us is that never come up like like the tractor at Adam had a car, what do you call a PTO that power all the equipment?

He says boys Never come up to the back of the tractor like this because something bad could happen You're gonna tell me something but once something bad can happen. I'm good Ocho we're in the field one day and I never forget do name of Fred. I forget Fred last name He came up there the back for the PTO equipment He had on some frayed jeans It got caught up in that thing you could hear it split the jeans Next thing you know, oh Joe all you could do. I'm looking I'm looking at it because it's for me to you from me to this camera

I'm looking next thing. I know he got his he got his foot in his hand. Ah, took his foot off just like that. You see guys in a grinder lose a finger. Yeah. So that's why people like with Shannon, bro, I just that's just the way we grew up. Right. And it's it was hard for me to get out of that. And I realized, Shannon, you can't raise your kids like you were raised because it's different.

It's different. And it was hard for me to get out of that. And I was like, you know what? It took a while though, cause then mom was like, Shannon, they're kids. I said, I know they're kids. And I say, I wouldn't be as hard on them if they will stay kids forever. If they will stay between the ages of four and 10, right, no problem.

But what happens when they get 16? What happens when they get 25? So when people's like, oh, that's always a mistake. No, no, bro. No, I ain't trying to hear all that. I'm really, I'm really not Ocho and I'm hard on me. I beat myself up when I do life. I make a mistake and that's the hardest thing. Oh, Joe, because I understand we're not perfect.

Nobody's perfect. All I try to do, Ocho, is I try to I try to I try to shoot for the stars. And even if I land on the moon, I'm still pretty high up. Oh, yeah, most definitely. And that's that's the hardest thing. And so I get what Coach Dillingham is saying. And I understand that, like, that's why you got to be careful, Ocho, when you upset because you.

Three people to tell you the truth. Kids, drunk, angry people. When a mofo get mad at you. Yeah. Watch how they start talking to see how they talk about you. Tell you everything you want. Oh, that B. Oh, so you think I'm a B huh? Tell you everything. Tell you everything they be thinking every time.

A drunk mind, a drunk, a drunk mouth is a sober minds thought Hmm, so whatever you say, oh Joe when you drop you thought about when you were sober Whatever you do why you drunk you thought about it while you were sober. That's how I come to your consciousness See, I like that. I won't drink but I'm gonna write that down a drunk man a Drop a yeah A drunk man. A drunk, yeah. But that's a good one there, a drunk man. I don't drink, but real, real be, real be motherfucking drinking. So next time she gets slicking them out, I just know, I just know a drunk man is a sober

man's thoughts. I'm like, bro. So you got, oh Joe, you got to be careful. You have to be careful because a lot of times, you know what people do? They try to they try to disguise how they truly feel in jokes. Mm hmm. But I was just a man. You know, I'm just play it right. OK.

Let me let me let me. Mm hmm. OK, you play it. I don't play like that. Everybody don't play the same. No. I don't play with Teddy like I play with Titus. Two different situations. Mm-hmm.

Two different dogs. Right. I had a dog, Ocho. You couldn't look him in his eyes. He would bite you. He would bite you. I would have to put him up. You couldn't come through the house running. I had a dog.

I had to put him up for whatever reason. He did not like my, he did not like my father. He was my stepfather, but we called him pops. We had to put him up because the whole while pops was sitting on the couch. All you hear. Mm. Mm. The whole while. And two dog, Kane, and a kid, Kane, called him Big Daddy, Big Daddy.

He be like, oh. Mm. And when I say, hey, and he know, because soon as I say, Big Daddy, let's go, he hop up and go because he know he, he want no parts of it. Right. You couldn't walk up on me. That's how you, that's how they work.

You could not walk up on me. I had a dog named, uh, uh, what was his name? His name was Samson, we called him Bo. You couldn't hug me. Girlfriend couldn't hug me, he would bite you. For real? He would light they ass up. Bucket, when Bucket got ready to leave,

Bucket gave me dap, I said, Bucket, you can't dap your homeboy up. He like, man, come. Ass Bucket, next time you see Bucky, ask him what Bo do if you Daph hug me. Oh! Hey, I'm up. Everybody don't play the same.

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