Club Shay Shay - Nightcap Hour 1: Half of the women’s Final 4 is set, Desmond Watson joins the show, & Tetaiora McMillan doesn’t watch film!

Episode Date: March 31, 2025

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson react to the half of the Women’s Final 4 is set, Desmond Watson joins the show to talk about his draft aspirations & how he plans to lose weight! They also discuss McMillan talking about he doesn’t watch film & much more!06:15 - Show start11:30 - Half of the Final 4 set for the NCAA30:39 - Desmond Watson joins show46:13 - Tetairoa McMillian doesn’t watch film alone1:06:00 - Tyreek Hill subtweets Dolphins(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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you guys have done an unbelievable job. So thank you very much. We could not have done this, but at the end of the day, we could have done this without the viewers, without the listeners, without the subscribers. So thank you very, very much. Ocho, half of the women's Final Four is set. Number one seed, the South Carolina Lady Gamecocks and the UCLA Lady Bruins punch their tickets to Tampa, Florida today. Two remaining spots remain. The TCU Lady Horned Frogs takes on the Texas,

no TCU, excuse me, the TCU Lady horn frogs takes on the Texas lady longhorns. You'll Yukon, the lady Huskies takes on the USC lady Trojans minus Juju. Great matchups. Um, could we get all four number one C's? That might be the first time that will ever happen, right? Four number one C's in the men's side go, four number one C's in the women's side go in the same year, in the same year. I think that was probably the first time. I think if we're going to get an upset, we'll probably be TCU.

But Yukon could possibly spring the upset. But man, Paige Buckets, she was sensational. She was sensational the other night. She won a 19-0 run by herself. Normally you see a team going to run to go on 10, 15, 20 point runs. There's a lot of scoring going on. He went, she went on a 19-0 run by her. Yeah.

So she seems to be peaking at the right time. Seems like everything is going their way, but I can't wait to see. Like I said, the Lady Gamecots and the Lady Trojans, Bruins, they're there, they're waiting on someone. Who will it be? Will it be the Lady Horn Frog or the Lady Longhorns, the Lady Huskies or the Lady Trojans? Tomorrow night, today the Lady Gamecots took down

the number two seed Duke, Lady Blue Devils, coach Don Staley. It's our fifth straight Final Four appearance. The Bruins beat LSU to deny them another Final Four appearance. If I'm not mistaken, I think this is the Bruins. This is their first Final Four in history of the basketball, the ladies basketball program. Now they're strong, it used to be strong in ladies softball, lady volleyball.

They were tremendous. When they had Lisa Fernandez, they got this thing started. They were really, really good in softball. No, they were, that was really good. They were great at the softball. Right. But right now, but for them to now flip the script and be good in basketball, ladies basketball, that's very, very, that was very good.

They've come a long way. Oh, Joe, we have some very interesting sounds from the LSU Tigers head coach, Kim Mulkey. Yeah. Let's take a listen to what she had to say. Jaden Smith, KLSU Sports. Coach, it's the second straight year you guys get eliminated in the elite eight. Just. Yeah. Shadensmith, KLSU Sports. Coach, it's the second straight year you guys get eliminated in the Elite 8. Just get- Terrible.

Yeah. Terrible. How many Final Fours you playing? None. Oh, Lord, how many? So it's probably pretty good, huh? Yeah. All right.

Really? Oh. Oh, Joe. Really? Yeah. But listen, you got to be careful with the question and the way you word it, the delivery and what you ask, and especially after a game like that and being eliminated. Yes.

Now, you know what they tell players? You know what they tell players after a game? Take your time and cool down. Come to your senses before you answer any questions. She was still, she just lost the game. So you have to understand why she was feeling the way she felt and why she didn't answer the question. Has she ever not, has she not lost the game before?

Yeah. I mean, Coach Joe, it wasn't, he didn't even get a chance to finish the question. He's asking a coach, this is the second time you've been eliminated. And for you to snap back and say, well, how many Final Fours have you been to? I mean, I totally understand where you're coming from. As a journalist, as an analyst, excuse me, as a journalist, he has the job to do. He has questions to ask. To mention,

oh, this is the second time you've been eliminated, you have to understand where she's coming from and see it from her perspective. Well, goddamn, I is the second time you've been eliminated, you have to understand where she's coming from and see it from her perspective. Well, God damn, I just got eliminated. You let me know it's the second time I got eliminated. I don't know how many times I've been eliminated. Just, how about word the question differently and you wouldn't get the response you got.

How would you have worded the question? Coach, it's an unfortunate loss you guys have been eliminated and then go on to what you want to say. Mentioning that she's been eliminated twice is totally unnecessary and it's somewhat of a jab and that's the way she took it which is why she answered it the way she did. She was snappy based on the way the question was answered. You change the way you ask it, you changeppy based on the way the question was answered. You change the way you ask it, you change the delivery,

I guarantee your answer is different. I don't think so. That's all I'm saying. I don't believe so. Kim Mokie has been nasty for a very long time, and she's gotten away with this type of behavior because she is a national champion winning coach. Oh, so she has a history of doing this.

She has a history of doing this. The same thing with Bobby Knight. Bobby Knight had a history of their behavior, but because he was a national champion winning coach, you skewed their behavior. Remember, people excuse behavior if you win, if they like you. Kim Bunker has been nasty for an extremely long period of time. If this is unacceptable for an athlete to say, well, how many times did you call to pass in the NFL? How many times do you score in the basket in the NBA?

How many times do you, you know, obstruct somebody out of it? That would be unacceptable. This is unacceptable for Kim Mulkey. Right. Because, you know, he phrased the question. It's that, hold on, wait a minute. Coach, I know you're probably upset this

the second time just the second and back-to-back years you got eliminated considering you know she went to the did she go hello no she went to the final four didn't uh who put it yeah yeah lady like who put out was Was it Awa? Plus Ocho, she doesn't have the horses that she once had. Right, obviously. Yeah, yeah. Okay, like, cause I remember, cause they beat them in the national championship

and then Awa returned the favor. You know what I mean? You lose a double-double machine. And Angel Reese, she was sensational. No matter what you think about her, she was a double-double machine. She's going to probably give you 15 and 15. And it was hard to keep Lauren Betts, 6'7", off the glass. They got a lot of extra points. They got a lot of extra second chance points. off the glass they got a lot of extra points they got a lot of extra second chance points. Gabriela Hockaz was great from the three-point line she really put the dagger through the heart when they got the rebound they got

the kick out right and she bent turn around and find her and she she nailed it that was for all intents and purposes that was the end of the game. Flaugé was sensational especially the second half they needed more scoring and they couldn't get that other than Flagey. They really didn't have a whole lot. Uh, uh, Mauro was kind of neutralized because Betts is six, seven. That's a lot of hype. And so she did a great job.

I think she has six, six or seven block shots. Um, but I just look, I get it. Oh, Joe, I get it. When we're, we're upset when we're, you know, when emotion is high, logic is generally low, and we say things. And probably, she probably doesn't feel bad because like I said, she's a four-time national champion winning coach. And she's gotten away with saying things. She's gotten away with treating people nasty. But for me, I just expect more from a coach. That's all.

That's all. 17, 18, 19 year old kids, yeah, I get it. But when you've been in this situation for an extended period of time, then you expect your players to behave in a certain manner after the game. I think the coach should set the president, should set the example, should lead by example, and set the president says you know what? Hey, you're right. We got to do a better job of playing better earlier We got to do a better job of knocking down shots not turning the ball over

Yes, get some better players at the end of the day it comes down to players win You know, I can coach him up put him in the right spot. But hey that you see a little team They play really really good. There's a reason why they're the number one overall seed. There's a reason why they won the Big Ten Championship. They got an All-American over there. They're a really good basketball team. So I know we're hurt and disappointed right now that we're not advancing, but we shouldn't hang our heads

because we accomplished a lot this year. We'll be back. We'll be back. Now listen, that answer you just gave, that's awesome. That's awesome. That would be great for inauguration if you were running for president. But when a woman that just lost and just got sent home,

and like you said, emotions are running high, that ain't the answer you're gonna get. So if one of these coaches, so if Samson, if he says that, if you're Shire, if he says that, if Shire, if he says that, they ask him, well you got knocked out, well how many Final Fours did you period? Is that going to be okay if a man says that? If a man has said, if a woman asked that very question to a man, and he said that, what would be said, Ocho?

Would that be okay? Hey, you know it's right, it wouldn't be okay, but honestly, you know what? Wait, let me say something. As a male head coach, you know they probably wouldn right. No, it wouldn't be okay. But I'm sure you know what? Wait, let me let me say something. Okay, as a hair as a male head coach, you know, they probably wouldn't answer the question like that Anyway, they the response would be completely different Even if they had been to Final Four before it got knocked out a second time The way they answer the question in general and just different Yeah, it just is now. I'm not saying what she said was right, but I can understand I can understand her being goddamn upset Yeah, I don't need you much. Listen. I don't need you

Addressing the question towards me. Let me know how many times I've been eliminated. I know that I just I just got sent home Yeah, but oh Joe, that's the thing there. Hey, yeah The more you invest in something the more you invest in something the more it hurts when it doesn't go your way. That's why you see a lot of times I was a very emotional player because I know how much I put into it. So it hurt me and it bothered me when I didn't see guys. And look, everybody take losses a different way, but I was one of those guys considering that I knew how much I put into it, how much I sacrificed, it bothered me.

But I also understood I had an obligation, I had a responsibility because had she won, she'd have been Kiki Kiyo. Right, right, right. Totally understandable. Totally, totally, totally, totally understandable. The height you are when you win, if you're 6'5 when you win, you need to be 6'5 when you lose. Don't go below that because I see that a lot.

Is that when things go well, everybody wants, hey, you got a question? Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey,

hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey Everybody wants to win. Everybody can't win. You should be gracious in victory and defeat. So if you're bolsterous in victory, stand up there and take it like a man, a woman, when you lose. That's all I'm saying, Ocho. And she's gotten away with this for a long, long time.

She has. And people allow her to do this. It's kind of like, you know, I love Pop. But Pop was basically very disrespectful to reporters on the sideline, to segers. And what do you think? I'm just asking. I'm just trying to do my job. I'm just trying to do my job. Yeah.

But like I said, when you win, people will excuse a lot of behavior when you win that they wouldn't necessarily tolerate from someone that doesn't win nearly as much. That's my two cents. That was a good one. Hailey Van Lyth was sensational.

Becker scored 40 against Oklahoma. I mean for TCU, not known for women's basketball, they got a good baseball team. Football teams have been good over the last couple of years. If I were you, I wouldn't say anything about that. Cause I got your ass 50 yard line seats and you left at the beginning of the third quarter. So I wouldn't hear anything. And they must have been, they were getting blown out. Georgia Beats was 65 to seven.

Oh, we still made it. Oh, I would love to go, she calling me. I'm like, hold on. It's really quiet. Why? Where are you? Oh, we're on the way home. But uh, but Haley Van Lyth, uh, you know, she went to Louisville And the last time she was at Louisville, I think uh, Texas knocked out in the sweet 16, right? I think Texas locked when in the Sweet 16, right? I think Texas locked with you that Louisville. And they got chippy. Somebody said something to him and she like,

get your hand out my face talking to me. You ain't finna beat me and lecture me. That's like me, Ocho, when I'm getting a ticket. Look, you either go give me a ticket and let me go on my way, or you can lecture me and not give me no ticket. But you ain't doing both. Both, yeah.

Hey, that's funny. Go ahead, Ochoa, what you gonna say? Nah, I was getting ready to say, I mean, the situation you talk about, it was, what do you call it after the game, where you exchanging, where you shaking hands? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, I remember that, I remember that.

That went viral. That went viral as well. And I don't know if it was ever reported what was said. Right. The Texas... Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

And she's like, get off me. I ain't trying to hear all that. We lost this game. I'm upset. See? But it should be a great game between Texas and TCU. My name is Brendan Patrick Hughes, host of Divine Intervention. This is a story about radical nuns in combat boots and wild haired priests trading blows

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You got two teams battling out from that state. Only one gets to go to Tampa and play for a national championship. And then you get Paige buckets, the Yukon lady Hus huskies and they take on the lady Trojans from USC minus Juju. Everybody knew this was a collision course. Everybody knew considering what happened last year and we thought it would be just as good if not better because Becker's is a fully healthy Juju's who was at the top of her game. She was a Magnifico.

And unfortunately we're not going to get that matchup. The question is can, uh, Arafine, uh, can she lead them? Can she? You can't look really good. Very. They look, they look really good, but Hey, um, we're about to find out. We're about to find out if it's going to happen. If she can, if Becker's can, because that's the only thing left to do on her resume

She's been player of the year. She's been an outstanding player, but all the outstanding players that go to Yukon What do they get? Oh Joe? national Championships. Yeah. Yeah, you're super your Rebecca Lobo. You're Sue Bird's no rosies. You're My your Mords the team the Tita Charlies, the Stewies, the Montgomery's, Paige, the only thing that's absent on her resume is a championship. It's a championship. And that's how you get immortalized there.

Look, if she was at another program, Ocho, that's not used to winning national championships, she might be the best player ever, ever. But when you go to UConn, or same thing, a Duke, when you go to these programs and they've won and they've had historically great players, that's what Juju is up against. Cheryl Miller, championships.

Cynthia Cooper, that's what you're up against. And so now this is her last chance. Her last chance. Yeah, it's gonna be a tough road now. Oh yeah, for sure. It's gonna be a tough road, it's gonna be tough sledding. Yeah, USC ain't gonna lay down now because they got something to play for. Look, everybody's gonna kind of say, man, y'all, they ain't gonna do nothing without, they're not gonna do anything without Juju.

Juju's averaging 25 points. We know she has 25, 5, and 6, or whatever the case may be. They don't believe people outside of that team and maybe USC fans that they can get it done with her. She's one of the two or three best players in college basketball. That's our shoe to take that out. Right. And then expect to win.

But they expect to win. And that's all that matters. It doesn't matter what the outside world. We expect to win. We know, we believe, if we played our game, we have a chance to winning this game and it's gonna take it outstanding game It's gonna take that because you can they get out there defensively and they got a fee a young lady that can take the game over Mm-hmm and and and shoot you out of the jail. She can put the ball on the floor

Now she's not as physical as you do was but she can stroke it from the three She got nice mid-range game. She could put on the floor, go to the free throw line. She's a very, very good player. The only thing missing from Paige's resume. She's been an All-American. She was a player of the year. Championship. Championship.

Championships. Championship. That's what, that's what it comes down to, Ocho. It is really that simple because that program, you're talking about the program, you're talking about the most storied programs in women's college basketball, is really too. It's Tennessee, it is UConn. Yeah.

Pat Head Summit, Rest Your Soul, and Gino. Yeah. You don't get any better than that, we good to go. Ocho, look who's joining us. Hey, he's six foot six, four hundred and sixty four pounds. He could become the largest draft pick drafted in NFL history. And boy, he had a pro day last week. He bench pressed 225, 36 times more than any player did at the

combine earlier this year. He also ran the 40 and 539. He broke six seconds at over 460 pounds. Had a 25 inch vertical jump. Y'all, let's put some hands together for Florida's outstanding defensive tackle, Mr. Devin Watson. Dad, what's dad? You can hear me? Yeah, I can hear you. Boy, what's up little fella? Boy, you can hear me? What's up little fella boy, you good?

Sorry, I'm good. Hey, where you at right now? What state you in? I'm in Florida. Wait, you from the crib? Yeah, I'm from Tampa. You in Tampa right now? Okay, man, I'm coming to see you tomorrow. Let me ask you this, Dan. You got the pro, you know Florida's having their pro day.

What were you hoping to accomplish and do you feel you accomplished that in your pro day? I think I was just going there trying to surprise everybody. I feel like everybody looking my way and stuff like that and don't expect me to be able to move around because usually people my size can't. So I think I was going there trying to surprise some people and I think I did. You definitely did. You definitely surprised some people because you're picking them up and putting them down. I'm like what the hell? You can move now. You can move. Before you go, hey Dan listen,

if the scouts and the people that watch film and watch college football this year, man and they watch you play, your short area quickness is like no other though. Your footwork is like no other though. So they should know you can already move a little bit based on what you put on film already. So it really shouldn't have been no surprise to nobody when you was at, when you went out there and did what you did. Listen, I got, I got, I got one thing at 464 pounds.

You think that's right? You, you think they got your weight right? Yeah, it was. I definitely lose weight I feel like my outlook for the outlook of like you know my supporters and my fans stuff like that right isn't the same as scouts so you know they got a number set for me that I got to get to and I think you know in order for me to be successful in the league and get to the league at that right I got to get it at number Now I always thought about this they always tell you what you're what? How much you need the way and what you need to do with your body? How do you feel best?

How do you feel you can play at your best is it is it being a little lighter is it being a little heavy? Well, what do you think? Oh? I don't know I think I think losing weight. You know it definitely put me in a better spot for sure right right I think you know I can play but at the same time I want to I want to do something if I get there So right being being lighter to help me, you know, I mean Okay, I heard I don't know if it's true Were you at one point in time almost close to 500 and you've lost like 30 40 pounds, haven't you? Yeah close to it close to it. I never touch it, but

like 30, 40 pounds, haven't you? Yeah, close to it, close to it. I ain't never touch it, but. Yeah. Yeah. So that's because I think the thing is right now, they're looking at you as a two down player, first and second down. You stop the run, make sure, hey,

your linebackers stay clean. They flow to the ball. Hey, but hey, y'all talking about taking up all these blocks. I'm trying to eat too. I'm trying to make me some tacklers. Y'all talking about holding this sit in this guard and keeping them getting up on the linebacker. Bro, I need to eat. I need to eat.

So, yeah. But I saw you at Florida also. They gave you the ball. You carried the wrong, Des. Yeah. Uh, that's really not... That's not my, uh, my thing. You know, I usually don't like playing the spot hot. It's like that. But I know, like, since I got there,

fans and stuff like that, and then, you know, Napier gave me the opportunity. I couldn't pass it up, so I had to do what if they put you what if the NFL team say days We're gonna put you you're gonna be on the one yard line and they want you to dot that I I'm doing it So realistic so realistically a dance because for me honestly, I don't think realistically, I don't really know if getting under 400, but I think you can get down to say 420. 420, and I think that would give you sustainability.

Now you can play 25, 30, 30 plays a game. Is that something realistic? So what is the goal that you have in mind as far as weight and far as play total that you think that, you know what, I can be at my absolute best if I get this weight and play this many plays? I'm not really sure specifically, but I know like along the process I'll be able to fill it, you know what I'm saying? As far as play total, same thing, you know I got to fill it.

I played against Tennessee, who is the fastest offense in the nation, all four years. I mean like that's not really a worry of mine, but at the same time I know I guess the lighter I get the more I can dominate because that's incredible. So I don't know how to say I gotta feel it. What do the skies tell you? Go ahead, Ocho, go ahead. You're taking all my questions, man. Hey Des, I got a two-part question. For one, I want to know how you like Cincinnati. Have you ever been to Cincinnati?

How would you like to be part of the Bengals? Now, I'm not trying to attempt for nothing. I'm just throwing a little birdie out there for you real quick, just in case. You know, I talk to people, I talk to management. You know, we need a little help on the defense of the line. So I just want to know if you've been to Cincinnati, do you like it?

If you don't like it, I can give you suggestions on where to go once you get drafted. I you've been to Cincinnati, do you like it? If you don't like it, I can give you a suggestion on where to go once you get drafted. Mm-hmm. Oh, I've never been to Cincinnati. You know, I'm from down south. I ain't really been too far up unless you see me and I would travel a bit. But I don't care who it is. You know, if anybody's trying to put me in a jersey, you feel me?

I'm ready for it. OK, OK. Well, I'm telling you, you look good in stripes. But my second part of my question was when it comes to deep of the tackles Especially those that are coming out in the draft this year. What do you think it is about you and your game that separates you? Apart from everybody else and why a team shouldn't want you instead of any any other deep of the tackles Why should you be off the board first? Yeah, I feel like I'm the best right stopper there is you know Even without yeah, you know, I think I got great technique Yes, sir. I proud myself of being the smartest on the line or at least knowing no one the offense and defense

I was going against I think I think that's really the biggest thing I probably myself and being able to take a double team and stuff like that and you know, just doing my job I think me being powerful and doing my job is something that would set me apart from most people. I Like it you heard that Mike Brown Duke Tobin, huh? Yeah, there's tell me tell me what what you've heard as far as day one day two Maybe you know first three rounds rounds four through seven. What are you hearing and who who's shown the most interest in? Desmond Watson. Oh

I did a couple interviews with different teams. Like I say, everybody outlook isn't the same. Apart from my supporters and stuff like that, and compared to the NFL scouts, I think they all can agree that I got athletic ability, and I'm smart enough to do it. I got the ability, but like I say, that weight is a lot of concern for a lot of teams.

So depending on how much weight I lose depending on where I could go you know I mean so. Listen, Dez were you always a big how much did you wear as a child? Were you always a big kid? Yeah I was always a big kid but the crazy thing is I'm the only big one in my family I come from a family of receivers running backs. Damn damn what happened? I don't know I think it was just destined for me to play in Syria. Everybody else had all the highlight plays and stuff like that. Like my older brother, 5'9", 165, you know what I mean? So serious? I'm being serious. That's dope. That's dope. That's loud. That's loud.

So you said long as somebody's going to give you a jersey, going to give you the opportunity to live out your childhood dream, which is playing the National Football League. Have you thought about what that moment would mean when you get that call and then somebody picks up the phone and says, may I speak to Desmond? Like yeah, let's see. Desmond, we're going to select you with the next pick and whatever round that is. Have you thought about what that moment is going to feel like and how are you going to

handle that moment? How are you going to respond in that moment? Oh, yeah. going to feel like and how are you going to handle that moment? How are you going to respond in that moment? Oh yeah, I mean it would mean a lot but I think in my situation it still would be more time before I could celebrate it you know I mean because I think getting an invite to a camper or something like that or getting a call from a team definitely wouldn't be the end for me you know I mean I just it's gonna be more I got to make a team I got to you know get it at 53 and then make a play I think my first tackle or something like that in the NFL being a lot more to me than the call would

Wow Wow Let me ask you this death. So have you hired a nutritionist? So what are your steps that you're looking to undertake to make sure you get to that weight? Maybe it's not a number that they've got a team except maybe it's a number that Desmond is set for himself Have you have you hired a nutritionist and what are the steps that you're going to take to make sure you get to that number? Yeah, I was trained down in Miami, had nutrition and stuff like that, but after pro day, me and my agent were talking, I get back to work tomorrow actually in Tampa, all that type of stuff. Nutrition is working out, different types of workout, therapy,

all types of things. you know what I mean? My goal is playing NFL and stuff like that, and I know what it takes to do that. So me and my family, my agent, we're all hands-on trying to get to that goal. Well, listen, whatever that goal may be, now we don't have to talk about this online. Now, my resume, it speaks for itself

as far as being a nutritionist and being able to provide all the necessary nutrients that you need to either gain or lose weight. So if you want to get in contact with me, it's a way to reach me and I can be down in Tampa tomorrow. Yeah, I heard about your meal plan. That's how I got like this in the first place. So I'm gonna go somewhere else. Yeah, Des, don't you follow with that foolishness.

Can't do it. You'll be headed the other way, Des. You'll be headed the other way. Yeah. Des, let me ask you a question. When you were running, what did you think? Did you think you could break six seconds? So in training, did you break six seconds in the 40? Yeah.

I think maybe like a week or two before that, I got high five, seven or something like that. I knew I was gonna break it. I feel like we didn't have a lot of time to warm up. Stuff started locking up on me a little bit. I definitely could have got a little bit better. Hey, Des, I don't know if you saw the game, but did you see the game when I think Baltimore played Pittsburgh and Pierce got that interception and he was about to take it to the house and he took a knee.

Des, you ain't gonna do that. You could have picked. take it to the house and he took a knee Then you ain't gonna do that is you gonna pick you going to the house ain't it in that situation You got to take a knee my cool I can't do it. I don't know how to hold the ball. I know how to talk to people on a whole body It's always when people go off for your knees anything about holding the ball Yeah, he had a clear plan. You're supposed to hit that prime time put your hand behind your head What if the P-Flaps drop out? It's sound easy when people going for your knees and you think about holding the ball. Don't you ever! He had a clear plan. You was supposed to hit that prime time. Put your hand behind your head there,

start high-skipping on him. I would've told him more, but I ain't that. You know? Hey, I got a question, and this should be a good one. As a defensive tackle yourself, I want you to rank your all-time five greatest defensive tackles that you like or you enjoy watching and maybe that you might your game after or you watch him on This will do you think here your top five all-time defensive tackles?

all Tom one shot Go that's a good one. These are people I'm out of my game. I think that's like I'm a little bit different and right right right course um I'm out of my game. I think you know, I'm a little bit different Aaron right, right, right course. Um Chris Jones up there. Oh, he nice All Tom It doesn't have to be all time just you're you're fine for Next launch in there For sure. Thanks. Yes, he go before it's over with.

And of course I like to watch a lot. And my game after is Vita Ved. Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Hey, now you know what? Now you like Vita Ved. Now you know Vita eating McDonald's now. I'm just throwing that at you.

I'm just telling you. I can't do it. Vita Ved get like 70 M's right now. I can't do it. God. Hey, tell me, hey, hey, Daz, when you get that second contract, you can treat yourself to some McDonald's, but that first contract is chicken breast, fish, lean cuts of turkey and stuff like that. I got you. I like it. Hey, you know what,

some team might get you, Daz, just to stop that tush push. You gonna stop the tush push? I got to, I don't come with this equipment for nothing. You've been sneaking on me since I've been in college. Let me ask you this, Des. You had offers from Alabama, Florida State, Kentucky, Michigan, and Tennessee. What made you choose Florida? At the time, when I was coming out of high school,

they was an SC championship. Things was looking right. Of course I'm from Florida too, but things was looking right. I think it came down to the wire with Florida, Texas A&M and Alabama. Texas A&M, I'm not sure why. I didn't think they valued me as much as Florida. And then with that being close to home?

I feel like it wasn't wasn't a better choice Okay, so you want to stay close to home you in Florida your Florida kid So how so you you from Tampa so Tampa to Gainesville was that's an hour drive 90 minutes our hour 30. Okay Oh that close that's real close. Hey, so you're going into the draft next year. I'm, excuse me, we're going to the draft this year. Now you know I do the Raid, the Madden ratings for Madden. So at the combine you did the bench press 225, you did it 38 times. I did mine 37 when I was at the combine.

What would you want your strength to be so I can go ahead and jot it down now on Madden? Top, top three. Top three? I ain't gonna say nothing now, can go ahead and jot it down there on Madden. Top three. Top three? I ain't gonna say nine, nine, but top three. I'm up there. Okay, so I'll make you 97. I'll take that.

Yeah, I got you, I got you. So your strength gonna be a 97. What about your overall rating? Oh no, I need to be a run stopper, but whatever it is, I need to have some run stopping abilities. Okay, I got you, I got you. I'm gonna put that in. I'm gonna do that or whatever it is. I need to have some nonstop abilities. Okay, I got you, I got you. I'm gonna put that in.

I'm gonna do that myself in the system. If I get fired, it is what it is. Des, we gonna get you out of here on this one. Your Gators made it to the Final Four. They taking it all? For sure. That last game was the worst game y'all gonna see. That was it.

And they pulled it off. So you know they get it all the way. Des, you who? You who to Des? gonna see. That was it. And they pulled it off. So you know they got to, they get it all the way. Dan, you who? You who, two dads? I did when I was younger, but I think it's great when I stopped. I can though. Oh, you got skills like that?

Yeah. I told y'all I come from the family of receivers and running backs. This footwork is in me. You know what I mean? It is. It is. Man, congratulations, all the best, dads.

Thank you for joining us for a couple of minutes, giving us a couple of minutes of your time. We wish you the best of luck. And when you get drafted, come back and holler at your favorite uncle, your favorite number 85. I appreciate y'all. Hey, don't forget me, Des, about the nutritionist job.

Sure, I got you. Block him, Des, block him. Appreciate you, bro. Yes, sir. Hey, that was dope, I like that. I like it. Yeah. Yeah. Appreciate you, bro. Yes, sir. Hey, that was dope. I liked that. What you say, bro? I liked that.

Everybody see you, come on. Everybody wanna see you. Come on. Titus! Everybody wanna see you, what you been doing. Yes, I see you. Titus, look in the camera. Titus. Like, whoa, whoa. Oh, so you called me? You called me?

Oh, Joe, Arizona wide receiver. How you say that name? Teller or Macmillan. Oh, Joe says he doesn't watch football and doesn't like watching game film. I don't like watching game film either. I don't ever watch it by myself because we go over film as a receiver group.

Ocho, is this a big deal or no? You know, I don't think it's a big deal because- Oh Lord have mercy on Joe. You asked me a question, right? Yeah. Okay. You asked me, is it a big deal? I don't think it's a big deal.

What does he do once you turn the film on? Him specifically from an individual standpoint. So watching film is not a big deal. Answer what I just said. When you turn the film on and it's time for him to play, what does he do on the field regardless of him not watching film? Does he show up in place? Is he productive at what he does?

Okay. I'm asking you. I know a guy had that same thing. Jermarcus Russell. How did that work out for him? I don't know. I don't know about Jermarcus Russell. You don't know about Jermarcus Russell.

He was the first number one overall pick. We not talk about Jermarcus Russell. We talk know about Jermarcus Russell. He was the first number one overall pick. We not talk about Jermarcus Russell, we talk about him. This Ocho, so this man ain't gotta watch no film. Yeah he ain't gotta watch no film. You asked me is it a big deal? I said no it's not a big deal if you produce when you get your ass on the field. How you gonna get mad at my goddamn answer? Because you're saying stuff Ocho. You saying watching film for a receiver is not a big deal. Uh, he says he doesn't watch it by himself, but he watches it collectively as a group. You know, in order to be great, you gotta watch it on your own.

So just watch it, so just watching it as a group at the teen thing, that's good enough. I just wanna make some clarification. Listen, that's him. I know what I did. Ocho, that's why we're asking you. You want the pro bowler. You're saying it's not a big deal.

Wow. Hold on, hold on. Let me ask you something real quick. So watching the film by yourself, right? Yes. Stay with me real quick. Stay with me. You know what you're looking at.

You're looking at DB, you're looking at defense. Yes, I'm watching the technique outside. Do they do the free technique? Do they press bail? What do they do outside, inside? Yes, I'm watching all that. Yes. All that good stuff.

Now me and you on the same page, right? Let's say he doesn't watch it as an individual, but he watches it as a group. He watches it as a group. He watches it as a group. Once he gets to the next level, and he gets out and does what he's supposed to do without watching it individually, is it still a bad thing? I don't believe he's gonna- He's still productive.

Is it still a bad thing? I don't believe. Me, personally? Oh, you don't think he can get it done because he doesn't watch film by himself? No, no, no, no. There have been guys that watch film and can't get it done. I just ignore that. But what I'm saying, what I'm saying is the intricacies of what you're watching that guy

does at certain down and distance because everybody, so because I've got to watch a guy that he might play such and such different than what he plays me. I need to know it down and distance. Area of the field, how that guy's gonna play. Because he's gonna play, hey, is he gonna play the sticks? Is he press bail? Does he, you know, is he cluing? I need to know all that. If I'm not watching tape, it's just hard for me to bleep. Now, he could. He could be that immensely talented that you say, you know what, I'm just gonna show up.

But I don't know, I haven't heard any receiver that's worth anything that says, nah, you know, I'm good. Because you gotta do it on your own. You've got to. You have to. And you know, when I think about it now, I'm only speaking because when he said, he says, he didn't say he didn't watch it at all.

He said he watched it as a group now That's one thing now him not doing it individually I mean that that that's on him But he was very productive in what he did and when you turn on the film he said I don't ever need to watch it by myself He this is what he said. Yeah, I don't like watching film either I don't ever need to watch film by myself Because we go over it film as a receiver group. Group. Collectively, yeah. See? Yeah. That's different.

My reason for watching film individually is I had no choice. Despite the entertainment, the jokes, and the laughter, and the celebrations, I was a student of the game. I studied film just like the quarterback you wanted to be good. Oh Joe You wanted to be great. Oh great. Okay, I realize that's what it took in order to be great You realize that just your God given ability wasn't gonna be enough now that might have gotten you to that point Yes, what's gonna take me to the next level next with every other receiver is just as talented as I am. Yes sir, you're right. But Ocho, I bet a point, everything that's thought doesn't need to be said out loud.

Some things you just keep to yourself. Now tell me what you think of 32 NFL teams thinking. You're right. 32 NFL teams thinking mm-hmm You right I That's what I don't get oh Joe I don't get because you know how teams feel Remember what they put if it wasn't a big deal Why do they put that clause in and and and Kyle Murray's contract how the America about about gaming? Yeah Why would you why would you ever say this publicly when you're about to get, Oh Joe, somebody's about to get,

you going on a job interview and you tell the people, I don't really like coming on time. Why would you ever tell the people that interviewing you for a job that? Get the job first. First, yeah. And then let them figure out

that you don't like to bring your ass to work on time. Yeah. I'm not gonna test you. Hey, yeah, And then let them figure out that you don't like to bring your ass to work on time. Yeah. I'm not gonna test you. Hey, yeah, you're right. But one thing by Young Bull, you know they interviewing him for a reason. They talking to him for a reason. If you watch him on film, you watch him on tape,

oh, he gonna get drafted somewhere. Now the issues and some of the things he already said, oh, they gonna fix that. They didn't have a problem. Because once you get drafted wherever you go, they're going to teach you and, and, and let you know in order to be great, in order to make this 53 man roster, you're going to have to be watching film. You're going to have to, cause there's a whole different ball game of one

percenters once you do make it. The things you were able to get away with in college, you won't be able to get away with it at the next level. You won't be able to. And one of the edges that you need is up here upstairs. Yes. You need to know what the DB is thinking about doing before he does. Yeah. So oh bro I know this down the distance. I done seen you too many times before. I know what's coming. You want to play this technique. Yeah. I already know what you're going to do. This is what you always do.

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or wherever you get your podcasts. There are articles being circulated now that now predict him to fall in the draft because of this interview and 15 seconds of comments. Ocho, why would Ocho, you, three weeks, three weeks through the draft is what? Little less than a month away. Ocho, why would you ever say this?

Yeah, listen, I don't know. It's something that I would have kept to myself. I obviously I wouldn't say anything like that, but I'm also someone that loves watching film. I love it. I just loves watching film I love it I just love it I love watching DB's I love watching the safety and then seeing what they're doing based on down at distance so I was I had no choice I talked too much shit not to watch film I got to know what's coming before a come

I got to that's the edge I needed I I wasn't physically imposing, you know? So my one edge was I got to be able to beat you up here before I beat you anywhere else. You're absolutely right. I got to be able to beat you up here. And I'm not even viewed as one of those type of players that was a student of the game. I'm viewed as just entertainment and fun. Man you understand the work I had to put in throughout the week to be able to pull off the stuff I was pulling off. The guys are too good. Man, stop playing.

The guys are too good, Ocho. Way too good. The guys are too good because you got to, and I want to tell people, everybody at some point in time was an all-state, all-conference, all-American, all this, all that. What's going to set you apart? Now, guarantee, now I'm just saying, Ocho, just because you were all this, all that, that doesn't mean you's going to set you apart? Now guarantee, now I'm just saying Ocho, just because you are all this all that, that doesn't mean you're gonna be great in the NFL. Just because you study film doesn't mean you're gonna be great in the NFL. But I needed every, you need every advantage that you possibly can get. Because this is the game of inches. And you being open like you would open in college, that is ain ain't going to happen.

Uh, unless, unless, unless it's a, unless it's a muster coverage. Yeah. Yes. Yes. So this notion that, you know what? Hey, I'm so gifted. And you know what? A lot of the DBs that you probably went against, they might not be playing on

Sunday, no Sundays, but the guys you about to go against, all of them going to play on Sunday. Every last one of them. Yeah. I'm just a firm believer, Ocho, especially, and you know how this, let me ask you a question. Those 32 general managers, those head coaches, I want you to tell the people at home, what you think they thinking? Do they, forget what me and you think is a big deal. Do you think general managers and coaches, do you think they think it's a big deal? Yeah,

you know they think it's a big deal because they want you to do everything right. They want you to do everything right. All the things necessary as far as preparation and being ready, not just for game day but just for practice. How well do you know your opponent? There's only one way to do that. That's through film study. But again, you know what happened? I think he's gonna be a gem. Wherever he falls to, this is gonna be a gem. And if anything, if he does fall in the draft, or maybe something like this, if he does fall in a draft, it might be a team, I hope he falls us, because we can use him.

But you know, at the end of the day, it's something I wouldn't have said, it's something you wouldn't have said. You live and you learn. You live and you learn, and he'll become a little bit more media savvy with the way he conducts himself when it comes to answering questions.

I don't get why you would ever put something that was going to... in every stretch of the imagination. That's like a defense or office line saying, I don't like lifting weights. How? Fool them. These kids just like say anything and what has happened is that in today's society, oh, people want to be themselves and then get paid on somebody else's job.

How'd that work, Ocho? You hear people all the time, why I can't be me? Because that's not your job. You not paying you. When you work for your own self, me, if I want to show up late, I'll show you I could. I own the company. But how's that gonna look? Right. You have to set the example. I have a level of expectation. Be on time. I don't have a whole lot of rules. Just be on time. That's really the only rule that I have. Oh, I got a great one too. Let me think about this now.

If I'm not mistaken, after Patrick Mahomes' second year, was it the second year he said he didn't watch film? No. And was still great? He said he didn't understand what he was looking at. What he was looking at, okay. Yeah. Well hell, that's the same goddamn thing.

You watching it but don't understand what the hell you watching, but you still going out there cutting the fool. It wasn't until like, because he was, first year he didn't start. It wasn't until he got with somebody that understood and says, okay, look at this. This is going to be your tease. Cause a lot of the, oh, I went to an HBCU, I ain't know, hey, we ain't watching no film. I ain't gonna lie. Right. HBC you I ain't no a we ain't watching no film. I only lie right

Because the black college is that's why if you get a corner out of black college He nor bless why they used to go to black cars and get him cuz what they could they play man coverage It wasn't no cover to it. Well none of that stuff. It was mad Lock up. Oh man Lock up. Yes So me I would be man coverage. So they go out there and run his own. Hell, I'm booking it. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, nocho, I'm like, oh man, I like this. Oh, this is cheating. You gave me the answer to the test.

Right. I thought you're gonna run a couple of coverages that you haven't shown me. But for the most part, you're gonna be true to who you are. Always. I mean every once in a while, I was just watching a deer on IG with eating a rabbit. Oh, a deer? Yeah! Deers don't even eat rabbits.

See, every once in a while, he show you something you ain't seen before. So I'm saying, occur once in a while, or you gonna show me a coverage I ain't seen before. Right. Hey, that might've been AI you was watching, too. No, that wasn't AI. Hey, hey

Animal get hungry enough just like you you get hungry enough you eat whatever I Eat whatever when I'm not hungry, but go ahead. We already know you eat whatever But I Just say chat. It's just me. I just don't understand why you would ever say that publicly. Everything that you think, people can think, a thought is not a crime, a thought is not anything bad. It's the act, it's the once you say it, why would you say that publicly

and you're less than a month away from the draft? So what do you think the people that's drafting you are looking to put millions of dollars in your pocket? Nah, man. Okay. That's just like, hey, there are some, oh, Joe, there are some people that's naturally gifted that didn't have to study for tests

and they were good at it at it yeah but guess what them numbers of them words on the page ain't moving when them guys try to put their hand around your neck and choke you choke your ass out now you know now you know he's gonna get tested like you cut first of he a first round pick. We gotta test you regardless. Oh yeah, absolutely. Cause I gotta see what's all the hype about. I need to see why you a first round pick.

I need to see. Absolutely. I got to see. Whatever you come in with your resume, Heisman, Balitnikov, Thorpe, Nagurski, Outland. I don't know what you want, but if you got one of them awards, if you a first round pick, you a high draft pick,

let me see what they talk about, man. Oh, we gonna put you to the test, Ocho, you know that. Every time. We gonna put you to the test. Hey, especially when everybody come together, is it a minicamp, no OTAs? OTAs, yeah. Yeah, OTAs.

Because you know, they gonna have the draft, so probably like the first week in May Yeah, yeah, but it might be just all rookies. It might just be a rookie Benny camp Yeah, it's always rookie rookie campers rookie and first year players Not no not the high draft pick but the guys that you know guys that were on the practice squad So, you know, there are a couple guys that were gonna practice quality Oh, right, then they get a whole lot of playing time Those would be the guys that are required to be in. All the draft picks, the undrafted free agents

that they brought in, they're gonna bring some undrafted players in to take a look at them and see what they got going on and see if they could potentially be count bodies or could possibly make a squad. Right. I don't know why he said that, bro. Yeah.

Damn. But bro, I wish you the best. I can't do nothing but wish you the best. If that's your MO, and it's gotten you that far, hey. Listen, it's gotten him this far, it's gonna change though. He'll understand that. They'll explain that to him. And I don't think it would hurt in draft stock.

Because if they want him bad enough, and there's a spot for him based on what they've seen on film, going and I don't think it would hurt in draft stock because if they want him bad enough and there's a spot for him based on what they've seen on film during his collegiate career, they'll get him in there and fix the situation. Now if you're coming here, you're not gonna do this. This is what you're not gonna do when you come here. Your best players are your hardest workers. That's when you get a Michael Jordan You get a Colby you get a LeBron you get a Brady you get a Peyton Manning

You get an Adrian Peterson you get a Ray Lewis you get that's what you get. Yeah, you get a Jamar Chase That's what you get. Mm-hmm guys. Don't are immensely talented Yeah, work extremely hard hard go the extra mile to be great, because it's just not good enough. I don't wanna be good, I wanna be great. I'm trying to be transcendent and historically great. Because when I'm done, I want you to talk about me. When I'm done, I want you to say,

this guy, you know who this guy reminds me of? He reminds me of Jamar Chase. This guy reminds me of Ray Lewis. This guy reminds me of Lawrence Taylor, or Reggie White, or Tom Brady. That's what you want. Let me say, some guys, hey, I played in NFL five, six, seven years.

I played 10 years, Google made me a nice salary. Got a pool, I did what I wanted to do. It all depends on the individual. What do you want your legacy to be in a forgiven sport? I mean, some people, Ojo, you know, some people just like anything, some people find, hey, being on a job, collecting a check, that's it. Hey, I'm gonna work in the same position.

I don't wanna move up. Because more responsibility come when you move up, Ojo. I like this writer. I come in, put my eight, nine hours in, go home. Yeah. Nah, hell nah. Mm-mm. That ain't me.

Ojo, Tyreek Hill and Miami Dawkins seemingly patched things up after a rough end to the season, but he posted some cryptic emojis in response to trade speculation. Reek posted a handful of cryptic posts responding to trade speculation. Peace sign. Why doesn't he just officially ask for trade? You think Tariq is happy in Miami? I mean, I would think so. I think he's happy with the weather.

I think he's happy with no taxes. I don't think he's quite happy with his quarterback situation. Yeah, man, that's a tough one. That's a tough one because didn't Tyreek just lead the NFL, what? Not just what, two years ago? Yeah, not the past year,

but the year before he led the league and received it. Yeah, with the same quarterback, right? Yes. Same quarterback, so it shouldn't be an issue. It shouldn't be an issue. But what's been the issue with the quarterback? Oh, he's been injured. Oh, okay. Okay. I see what you're saying. That's tough. That's tough. I'm not sure how Tyreek is feeling. I've talked to him on numerous occasions, but I like to stay away from stuff like that, especially seeing dudes in the off season. I don't want to, they don't want to buy no football. They got to do it all the goddamn time. So I think for me, the situation is good. I would love to be in Miami. I would love to be in Miami and hope that Tua can stay upright this upcoming year. He can stay healthy. And we know what Tua can do with Tyreke and Waddle if he's upright and healthy. And that's been the main issue.

It's hard, Ocho, when the quarterback is injured frequently and getting timing with a quarterback. You got one week so I got three weeks retired I got three weeks with with Tua then I got a week maybe two weeks with another guy then I got seven weeks with Tua then I got another two three weeks Ocho it's hard. You know it's hard to build chemistry with, you know, think about what it took for you to get on the same page with Carson. Carson, yeah. And I don't care what, you're not gonna get on that same page because you and Carson, y'all,

there was a look that you could give Carson, and Carson could give you, and you knew exactly what each other was thinking. We knew what to do. Yeah, it's difficult. That came from years and years of practice, being in the game, he understand that you run certain route the way you oh, oh, you're leaning. He about to break.

I'm a boy, but I know he about to break. I know he about to snap this off. Oh, oh, I see him. He about to come. He about to put that foot in the dirt. He about to come right back to me. There are certain things that you know. Oh, he finna throw this ball.

Oh, this cover. Oh yeah. I'm getting this one. You already, oh, I'm getting this one. I, this cover, oh yeah, I'm getting this one. You already, oh, I'm getting this one. I don't care what it's called, I'm getting this ball. I'm getting this ball. Oh, he throwing to me. David Fisher said, fans nation would be open

to trading Tyreek, Tyreek smile. Probably Tyreek, he'll said something and he gave you both, he gave peace sign. Well listen, you know these speculations and these rumors, you know they always come from somewhere, right? Oh yeah. They always come from somewhere. And so funny, the draft ain't too long, ain't too far away.

So do you think it's possible we might see a trade of some sort on draft day? Or maybe after and move in to reek somewhere else? I believe it happens. Okay, if it's gonna happen, I believe it happened on draft day. I don't believe it happens after the draft because then what? Because you want the draft compensation. You want to be able to pick them. You know, I want to be able to go in the draft and get somebody. Obviously, it's gonna be multiple picks maybe this year, a second or a third or whatever the case may be and even next year, but I want to get some of the compensation this year. Right. So if it's going

to happen, it's going to happen probably right before the draft or during the draft. I mean, hypothetically speaking, where would be a great place for Tyre week to go? Back to Kansas City. Back to Kansas City. week to go back to Kansas City back to Kansas City that's what you just said yeah that's what you said yeah you have to go to a great place for me to go look Tyree can look with Tyree Skill said every any place is a great fit oh absolutely absolutely all you got to do is know how to use them the right way yeah know how to use them right way and boy, all hell gonna break loose. Oh Joe, he like leggings. They fit, hey it don't matter they make leggings skinny, medium, large, extra large, it don't matter, leggings fit. It don't matter. He Right. The most parody we've seen in years, with games coming down to the wire and everyone wondering which team will be crowned

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