Club Shay Shay - Nightcap - Hour 1: Jayden Daniels, Deebo vs. Ocho, Garrett demands trade

Episode Date: February 8, 2025

LIVE from Radio Row in New Orleans ahead of Super Bowl LIX, Shannon Sharpe and Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson are joined by NFL Rookie of the Year and Washington Commanders QB Jayden Daniels. Later, Greg Olsen stops by, the guys discuss Cleveland Browns Myles Garrett demanding a trade from the Cleveland Browns and discuss the best landing spots and much more!05:20 - Jayden Daniels joins24:10 - Myles Garrett requests trade29:00 - Greg Olsen joins35:00 - Michael Pittman Jr. joins58:30 - Andy Reid1:02:15 - Jalen Milroe joins(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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he did something very, very unique that very few rookies have ever done. He's led his team to two road playoff wins as the de facto leader. He wasn't relying on his defense. They put a lot on his plate and he ate everything. I expect to see big things from this young man in the future. Congratulations on a great season, Jaden. Tell us about the treatment that you and your mom did with Invisalign. Man, I'm in the main thing for me, you know, it's appearance.

Right. You gotta have your... I have. Okay. You have them on now, right? I do have them on right now. Okay. You have them on right now.

But for me, I mean, I have braces and stuff like that. So it wasn't...my teeth were always straight. It was like, man, let me enhance this more. Right. So, I mean, just to partner with Invisalign, man, the appearance and everything. Everybody look at your teeth. Everybody look at your smile. First thing they notice, bro.

That's how you get that money. I have a question. I wanna transition into football. What? Do you understand how special what you've done for an organization that has had chaos, turmoil, and they haven't been at the depths of the bottom at NFL, but they've always been in situations

that weren't in favor of them in general. Do you understand you turned the organization around in one season? I think I- There's been no maturation. There hasn't been no steady progress or a progression to them turning things around. You came in in one year and literally turned the franchise around. Yeah, I think- Do you understand that? I think I'm kind of getting the grasp of that. I didn't know how, this is real talk.

I didn't know how passionate Washington fan base was. Like me growing up, cause you never seen like them at the top. You seen like the RG three years, stuff like that. But when I really got there, I was like, when I got drafted, people were like, now I'm a Washington fan. I was like, I ain't never like heard nobody say that.

Right, right, right, right. But now I'm excited to see everybody, DMV, everybody around the world, you know, bringing out their Washington stuff, going out there, grabbing out the basement and hanging the flags up and everything. So they excited.

Like watching you play, and if you're a fan, if you're a commander's fan, you understand with a quarterback like yourself, what you're able to do in a rookie year where there hasn't been no room for development. You know, most of the day you wait for rookies to develop, you know, and then you know, you see you have a chance, but you give a team hope for the next decade based off your play this season and I commend you, I salute you, been a fan for

a very long time, man, but what you've done was special and not very many quarterbacks, especially as a rookie, have been able to come in and do what you've done. When you look at what you've done, the expectations now, you have to improve and build on what you've done. When you look at what you've done, the expectations now, you have to improve and build on what you've done. You can't become complacent. For sure. Because you understand what is expected of you now. Only because they're talking about, man, this guy,

who's to say he's not a top five quarterback as we sit here and speak currently? What does Jayden Daniels need to do to improve to make sure this year wasn't a fluke? Man, I just think, like you said, don't get complacent. And I think the veterans that I had, like one person I really lean on a lot is Bobby Wagner. Okay, he wags.

So that's my guy, man. We have conversations. He just teach me little things. I remember like, shout out to him. I remember like we played a couple of games and a road game, we'll get back late. You know, you you tired and everything. And he pulled me aside like, man,

let's go get in these tubs. So we were up there like three o'clock in the morning, making sure your body's back right. But just little stuff like that. It was like never thinking that you know too much. There's always room to grow. So I mean, outside you always get better technically and stuff like that.

It's a blessing I get to be in the system that I was with Cliff another year. Yes. So I can improve on that within that system. But just learning how to be a pro. You know, it's my first full all season. So I was like, OK, I got to figure out, have a schedule like this. What I'm going to do is my Rambo period, OTA, stuff like that. And just always had the hunger to get better. How do you block out the noise?

Because obviously there's going to be a lot that comes along with what you've been able to do. Your quarterback in the NFL, we know what comes along with the most important position in all of pro sports. So now the endorsements are gonna come. Now more fame, more adulation, more praise. Everybody, hey, Cubs, what's up? Everybody's a friend now. Everybody's a family member now.

And as your mom said, she's like, look, I know the women are coming, but I... I'm like, hey, my son got a husband, Poles, I got one too. I'm still forming them all out the way. How do you keep a level head and to understand that, yes, I understand what comes along with me, Jaden Daniels, but I don't get outside of who I am? I just think it comes, like you said, support system,

mom, dad, like, friends, family. Everybody knows me for me, and it's not here, like, okay, let system, mom, dad, like friends, family, everybody knows me for me and it's not here like, okay, let me ride his coattail and stuff like that. So that's a big part, but also it's the time to play for everything. It's gonna be a time to have fun. It's gonna be a time to go out there and party, make some money, do this, that, and the third.

But the main thing, man, none of this happen if you don't ball on the field. So that's the main thing, like, how do I get better to continue the success and knowing like our first year is that, like everybody's gonna have a full all season to watch it fail for year two. So like, man, I gotta improve on different things

and get better myself. Listen though, when you talk about that improvement, right? You guys were able to make the NFC championship. What pieces to the puzzle do you think you guys need to add to make your job a little easier? So the bulk or the weight of getting things done isn't always on your shoulders. Yeah, man, I think for us, it's like, if you look at it,

I think I've seen some, we got like 20-some free agents like that on the team. So, I mean, we got to bring some people back. So I think overall, just in general, man, we got to get some people in, we got to bring people back. But I think overall, just in general, man, we gotta get some people in, we gotta bring people back. But I'm focusing on my job, man. My job is to get better. Whoever they bring in, we hone them to this standard

that we set with DQ and the set, and let the front office do what they do. Now I have a question. When we talk about letting the front office do what they do, I know it's very early in your career. Do you think you would have any say on who you bring in, especially from an offensive perspective? To be able to help you out and I don't know. Yeah, I think I think that time comes. We'll see if they call me

Yeah, okay, but I don't know man. They doing a job I got I told I'll tell them man. Let's bring some dogs in but I'm right here If you need a dog, I'll let you play when I look go back and look at this NFC championship game Ding you guys have played well into one thing that you hadn't done until the championship game was turn the ball over. And you know, I'm sure DQ and WAGs have told you, if you turn the ball over in the playoffs, you pay double. You had four of those things.

How differently do you believe the game would have been had you taken better care of the football? Because you guys were right there until you had those consecutive turnovers. I think it came down to the wire. I think it came down to whoever had the ball last. And obviously, like you said, turnovers, especially in the playoffs, man, play a huge factor. I mean, we turned the ball over against Philly in the regular season five times and won the game. But in the playoffs, you know, it's different. It's a different type of beast where you get

the playoffs. You're on the road. So obviously you're playing to the crowd, playing the atmosphere. And man, they got dogs over They got superstars. Okay this game right here. You got the two-time defending champ Yeah, Kansas City Chief led by Patrick Mahomes and Andy Reid you got the the Eagles in your division You played them three times this year. This is their second time back in three years How do you see this game shaping up and who you have winning? I think it's gonna come down to whoever got the ball last. I think so. I think obviously Saquon and what they do, J. Hurts, you got AJ Brown.

And then on the other side, man, you got Pat. So it's hard to bet against Pat, especially he's been here. But I think it's who could create more turnovers, who can create more negative plays on the side of the ball. And I think it will come down to the end. So for me, I think it's hard to bet against Pat. I can't say, you know, rightfully so. I love playing the Eagles. Right. They're in the division, but I think it's hard to bet against Pat. Man, I really appreciate you, man. The legendary, already icon,

commander's quarterback, Jaden fucking Daniels. Baby, I appreciate you. Appreciate it, man. Thank you for stopping by. He's repping Invisalign. Go out there to get their treatment. He and his mom are getting half the treatment done. They're very, very satisfied with the treatment. Thank you again, Jaden. Mom, thank you for dropping him by. Thank you. Appreciate y'all. Jaden Daniels, ladies and gentlemen. Appreciate that, boy.

You know that. Hey, don't forget your McDonald's, man. Thank you. Thank you. Guys, that was a very interesting conversation with your fans. Thank you. I love you.

Thank you. That was a very, that was, he's a very, very humble young man. We had him on last year at the pre-draft. He came on, gave us about 15, 20 minutes Ocho. And from the looks of it, he hasn't changed his persona. The way he approaches the game hasn't changed. His mom, like I said, you recognized her before I did. I'm like, well, who is this woman?

Who is this woman? The way she's trying to get us all. She don't play now. Yeah, yeah. But it was great to have him on and just to see how he was able to handle the NFL season, the rigors of the NFL season, because you think about it. If when he left, they didn't have the 12-2 in playoff,

so they only had the 14 playoff. So you're playing, say 15 games. Yes, sir. Well, when you track Black there in the preseason, bro, they still got another six games to go. So you think about, so that's, if you play the preseason, the three preseason games, 12 regular season games, that's a college season. If you go all the way through.

Well, if you don't, well, you're done, you know, and they didn't, and he didn't play the bowl game. So now he's done after 12 weeks. Right. Think about it. That's three preseason games and nine regular season games, and he's done. So now think about it. You got three preseason games and nine regular season games. And he's done.

So now think about it. You got another half a college season to go. And so for him to understand what it takes to be a pro, professional, he's a professional athlete. A pro is how you go about doing your business. And to see how he is a pro in the utmost sense is a thing.

It's a treat. It's a thing of beauty to witness. And you can tell by the way he carries himself, the way he talks. So he's perfect for a position, especially when it comes to being a leader of men. Being able to command the huddle, you know, with veterans in there, you know,

and to be able to act and be mature in the way he is now. You can tell it started at home. Yes, yes. It started at home. I love to see the support system that he has that he has with him. His mom is always by his side, rightfully so. She are obviously she was she's known in the longest always had always have always will have his best interest in mind. And I love to see that. I love to see us come together.

I love to see that support system that he has. I mean, he has a group of very strong women by his side. And so that's great to see. That was Jayden Daniels, who's gonna be rookie of the year. Honors awards are tomorrow night. And so that's when he'll get crowned a what, AP NFL rookie of the year. Some very, very select few people have won that award it's a thing of beauty and

he's very very deserving and I'm happy to see it, but don't show this game man. I mean whoo I go back and forth with this game What you I really do I understand what the Eagles possess defensively big man Joe. He likes to play nickel defense, right? He wants to keep Coover DeJohn on the field So in other words, he wants to play what we call a 4-2-5. Yes, sir. Four down linemen, two linebackers, five D.D. The question is, the Chiefs, when they go with their two tight ends,

because they like to play that a lot. Noah Gray, Travis Kelce on the field, simultaneous. We know they don't have a problem throwing out of that formation because they're hoping you bring big personnel out there. And that leaves a mismatch. Now you've got a linebacker. Now you got big people trying to cover Travis Kelsey, who's basically a pumped up wide receiver. I think he's the go tight end, but we know what he does in the receiving game. And Noah Gray, who's had an outstanding season because

they've given him because when teams were taking Travis Kelsey away, he was the guy that was stepping up and catching touchdowns. I was like, oh Joe, man, I was like, hey, man, y'all need to cover Noah Gray. He's the one that's getting going for catching four or five touchdowns. Y'all need to leave me be. But it's very interesting because they're going to have to find a way to control that boy, that boy dog in the middle, which is Jalen Carden. Yes, sir. He's the guy.

He can win MVP of the Super Bowl. Absolutely. He has that kind of ability Absolutely, but this is the thing about the Chiefs when it comes to the Chiefs I think about offensively you watch them throughout the entirety of the season. You never know who day is gonna be Nope, you never know who day is no one day. It might be with Checo. It might be Noah Gray It might be Travis Kelsey. It might be Xavier worthy. Hell. It might be Deandre Hopkins That's why I think Van Joran job is gonna be so difficult from a defensive standpoint's why I think Banjo Job is gonna be so difficult

from a defensive standpoint, because you don't know who there's gonna be. And Patrick Mahomes is one who's not gonna make mistakes. I'm gonna take what you give me. And if we got to march 98 yards down the field, I can do that without putting the ball in harm's way. On the flip side of the ball for the Chiefs, as good as Spags is with that defense,

how do you stop 26? But that's the thing. How do you stop 26? And I understand the game plan probably is. If Jalen Hurts beats me, I can live with that. Yeah, I'm not letting you say, Kwan. AJ Brown beat me, Devontae Smith beat me, I can live with that.

But I give you hell and, hold on. I give you water. Yeah, I give you water in hell. Yeah, no, come hell or hot water. Come hell or hot water. 26 ain't getting it done. Correct. It ain't gonna be him.

No. At all. Because we know. And the thing you have to prevent, those explosive plays on Joe. Yes, sir. Because the Eagles are built a little differently. That's not right.

That's not right. But they do you good? All right. The thing that the Eagles are built differently than a lot of teams. Yes, sir. They're built to be explosive in the run game. Yes, sir.

Efficient in the passing game. Yeah. Most built to be explosive in the run game, efficient in the passing game. Most teams want to be explosive in the pass game, efficient in the run game. But there are very few teams that have a back like Safegallen that can hit his head on the goalpost from anywhere on the field. And so now when you have a guy that can do that, okay Jalen, we're not going to ask you to throw the ball 40 times a game, but we ask you to be efficient. Take what they give you, some shallow crosses, some smoke routes, some bubble screens. We're not asking you to push the ball down the field continuously, like you see a Joe Burrow, like you see some of these other quarterbacks in the league.

And he's done a great job when he takes care of the football, the Eagles have an excellent chance of winning. When he puts the ball in harm's way, that's when they open themselves up, to now you can get yourself beat. But I think that's what Spags is gonna do. You know, most of the time, obviously, it's a certain game. Spags, they always do what they do. They always play two-shell. Yeah. You know, until you run them up out of there. Now, if they have success running the ball offensively, the Eagles are one of the few teams where their style of play is like back in our day. You run the

ball to open up the pass. Correct. You run the ball to open up the pass. You run the ball to open up the pass. So if they find a way to stop or contain, maybe not stop, contain and don't allow him to hit his head off the goalpost and have big gains, then it's going to come down to the arm of Jalen Hurts. Yes. It's going to come down to A.J. Brown and Devontae Smith being efficient in the pass game. So I'm curious what's going to happen. You have to concede something. Yeah. You can't take away everything. No, you can't. What do we feel they do the best? I feel they run the football the best. Yes. That's what I'm gonna take away. I'm not saying Jalen Hurts can't throw the football. Clearly he can. Yeah. He's been a Pro Bowl player. He finished what, second or third in the MVP voting one year.

So I'm not trying to minimize his ability to throw the football, but I'm saying it is my estimation, looking at what the Eagles do and watching them the entire season, they run the ball better than they throw it. If I'm spags, I am going to make them throw it in this game better than they run it because we've seen them come playoff time

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With that in mind, I've requested to be traded from the Cleveland Browns. Hocho. I told you that was coming. Didn't I tell you that? I told you that a few shows ago. I knew it was coming at some point. And in order to compete for a Super Bowl, for one,

defensively, you can do all you do. You can do all you can. You can be the greatest defensive end of all time. But until you have someone on the other side of that bowl that gives you that chance and opportunity to reach a Lombardi or get there, he understands that. He understands that. And right now, his career, I wouldn't say it's going to waste because he's playing very well.

He's playing very well. If he was to be, say if it was the end of the day, he's still a Hall of Famer. He's still a Hall of Famer. But he understands that in order to contend for a Hall of... In order to contend for Lombardi, a trophy, or even have a chance, you got to be in a position, for one, a team that has a quarterback. Yes. You got to.

And so he understands that. So I understand him requesting his trade. I knew that was going to happen, especially after the quarterback carousel that he's had to deal with, you know, for how many years now? Well, I think Miles came in in what 2017? I mean ain't no telling yeah yeah ain't no telling how many quarterbacks he's had to deal with and now you know it's come to a head you know what this is I don't have that many more years left I need to go somewhere where I can contend for a Super Bowl I gave Cleveland all I can to this point. Yeah. Be fair to me and allow

me to achieve a childhood dream I'm having a chance at a goddamn Super Bowl. Yeah, I think the thing is Ocho and he's gonna command probably he's gonna command two first-rounders Yeah, probably more. Yeah, even a player you see what What Seattle got for Russell Wilson, yes, sir They got players two first rounders to the second rounders on the third. Yeah, you look at some of the other drafts some other Transactions that have happened. Miles Garrett is an apex, he's an alpha, he's an all-pro. A guy that's had 14 sacks at least the last four seasons.

He had double-digit sacks, I think, what, six of the last seven seasons. And so we know what he represents. But at some point in time, it's just not enough. And he's eligible for contract distinction. Oh yeah, most definitely. Bring it up? Okay. I guess I need to bring it up because you guys couldn't hear me. So sorry about that.

You hear the 49ers, potentially the Rebs. You hear the Lions. You hear potentially the Packers, you hear some of the teams. Because here's the thing, if I'm Cleveland, I'm getting them out of the AFC. Oh, so there's no chance. There's no chance. Wait a minute. Stay with me real quick. We have Trey Henderson, right? I don't think there's an ability to be able to pay him what he's worth, the value that he can get on the open market. Is there any chance you see Mount Gare being traded into division right to Cincinnati? Hell no. I'm getting him out of the AFC.

What can you do? I'm just asking. Damn division, I'm getting him out of the AFC. Okay, okay, okay. I don't want to run the risk of having to see him. He's going to Green Bay. Okay, Detroit, Green Bay, 49ers. All right, give me your best offer.

Right, okay. Somebody give me your best offer. Right. Now look, if me your best offer. Right. Now look, if somebody in the AMC gives me two, three first rounders, I ain't got no choice. Exactly. But I think Detroit, pairing him with Aiden Hutchinson, remember, Ocho, how many points they gave up

in the playoffs game. We saw this at the end. There were some times that they were giving up a bunch of points, but their offense was outscoring you. You can't always be reliant on your offense to outscore people. You see the 49ers they bring back Robert Sala. We know he loves to attack the quarterback. Can you imagine? Bozo on one side, Miles Garrett on the other side. With Warner in the middle. That's not fair.

And so that's gonna be very interesting. I think it's gonna be a little difficult because they got they got to pay the quarterback Right now you hear reports. They try to structure structure deal something like three years 120 million $40 million a year Right, that's fair. That's fair. They're gonna be willing to settle for that. But for me Miles Garrett requesting a trade Just goes to show you money can't buy you happiness. No. Miles Garrett is one of the highest paid defensive ends. Yes sir.

You get tired of losing. Losing. No matter how much you're making. You can tell people that say, oh I'll just be happy and complacent and content. No you wouldn't. That's easy to say because you don't win. Yeah. When you want to win and you, what the heck you think? Greg, oh what up, bro?

What's up, bro? Greg, what's up, baby? You good? Yeah, I'm here. I'm here. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. You still what you're training for? Oh, I'm not training for nothing. I used we used to work out together. Yeah. Miami. Oh, yeah. Years ago.

Bombarito long time ago. We're we're joined by Greg Olson, one of the great play by play guys. to work out together in Miami. Yeah, years ago, Bombarito. Long time ago. We're joined by Greg Olson, one of the great play by play guys. Actually, your color. You're not play by play, your color. One of the great color guys, young up and coming. When you, let me ask you this, forgive football. What's been the biggest thing for you to do? How were you able to become so good, so quick at doing this job, Greg?

You know, it's funny when people ask me about it, you know, there's actually a lot of lessons that I learned, you know, from playing, right? Just routine, preparation, every Monday's a Monday, every Tuesday's a Tuesday. And leaning into a lot of those things throughout the course of the week as a player, I didn't know any different, right? So when they said, all right, we got a game next Sunday and you're gonna call it, I just fell back to what I knew which is study the game. I love watching football.

I love asking questions. And you have to be very willing to be like, you know what? I don't know a lot about this. I'm gonna find people who really know it and I'm gonna pick their brain. I'm gonna talk to great coaches. I'm gonna talk to front office guys. I'm gonna talk to, you know, defensive coordinators.

How do you put together your Blitz package? Learn as many different aspects of the game. Organize it in your mind. Organize your thoughts. And then just lay out the game. Stay with the game. Follow it and try to do it in a way that is interesting. It's insightful and try to add value. And I'm still learning. I don't pretend to know it all, but I just love learning the craft of calling the games. And it's been a great transition for me since I'm still learning. I don't pretend to know it all, but I just love learning the craft of calling the games.

And it's been a great transition for me since I'm done playing. Listen, I've watched you transition, obviously, from playing the game to doing play-by-play or color commentary, like coaches said. Obviously, your discipline and your worth ethic has allowed you to do so. Now, I'm thinking about someone in my position who has never done anything of that magnitude, is it possible in any way that I could probably learn, if I can minimize my cursing a little bit, I can learn to do color commentary, or is that something you think I should stay away from? No, I think anybody can learn it, right?

So the inherent, you know, the underlying foundation of all of it is, guys who love football, guys who want to continue to learn it, guys who want to continue to stay up with the trends and follow it and dive into it, anybody can do it, right? And then it's just communicating it in a little bit of a different setting.

Right, simplicity. And that was probably the biggest transition for me. I'm a talker. I love conversation. I could sit here with you two for three hours and we can talk about whatever, but that's not the broadcast. We have commercial breaks. We have referees

We have game breaks and you get 15 seconds That was probably the biggest thing is just the tempo and kind of the rhythm of the broadcast Everyone has a lot to say. Can you say a little bit make an impact but also not overdo it? I think that's still the balance that I'm still trying to find. Okay I think the biggest thing for me is what I've noticed is you're talking about it as it's happening versus talking about something that's already happened or something that you perceive to happen. So like pre-game, post-game is entirely different than doing color because you're talking as it's happening. Yeah, and I think the battle, at least the way I try to do it is, I try not to tell you what you're seeing,

because you already see it. I don't want to narrate the replay. I don't want to just talk over what you're already seeing. I think to most fans, I think fans nowadays are very educated. People are listening, they're listening to shows, they're listening to weekly and weekend stuff. Tell them why they're seeing it.

Maybe take their eyes away from the ball. What led to this play being really successful? What led to this read or this wide receiver route? Like it was a pick, but did the receiver not get flat enough on his inside brain? Right, right, right. Take people into the why, the thought process.

That's the part I enjoy the most. Everyone can see it was a nice catch. Everyone can see it was a sack. Why? Tell us why and what the counter is going forward. That's the game that I think is the fun part to lay out. There've been a lot of conversations. You had a great, you did a great thing.

I mean, your first couple of years in, you're called in the Super Bowl, and you in the Super Bowl and you called it exquisite, excellent game. She's 49ers. Tom comes in, obviously Tom's the number one, but knowing you the way I know you and the competitor, you want to be back in that number. You want to call Super Bowl. You want to call NFC, AFC Championship game. Yeah. And again, your first question where I said so many of the lessons that I put into the broadcast center, things that were from my playing days, it was no different than

as a player. You weren't just content to be on the roster. You wanted to be the starter. You weren't just content to be a starter. You wanted to be a pro bowler. There was always something else. And that's the same thing now to take into broadcast. And again, I'm always clear, like,

me and Tom have a really good relationship. We've gotten to know each other. There's no personal animosity. He's not my enemy. Like, and I said this, him being good does it not make me good. And him being bad, does it make me better? Like, it's not connected.

Like, I want to inherently just be good at it. I want to call top games. I want to chase the biggest games, the biggest audiences, and bring out the biggest moments of the game. I want to call top games. I want to chase the biggest games, the biggest audiences and bring out the biggest moments of the game. I want to be the voice of that. That doesn't mean I don't like him. I don't hate him. My relationship with Fox is great. My relationship with Tom and Kevin and Aaron Andrews is great. But I want to get back to that seat that I was in and that's not a personal thing. That's just the way it works.

Right. Matter of fact, way it works. Right. Matter of fact, speaking of seats. Appreciate you. I don't know who I need to talk to, but I'm sure the powers might be that, see this, I want to do color commentary and play by play this year. Well, there you go.

Okay, I'm putting it out there. Great, appreciate it. So good to see you. Appreciate you calling me out, man. This was fun. Appreciate you. Good to see you, baby. Good to see you, boss.

Yes, sir, thank you. Jason, man. I got you. All right, color commentary coming up. Yes, no, no, no. No? Uh-uh. Why? Because it's too, it's right there in the moment.

You got to call as you see it. I like that. I see that it's already happened. Yeah. What's up, bro? Hey, what's up, what? Appreciate it. What they do, what?

You good? Joining us now, Nightcap, Michael Pittman Jr. Sir, sorry, I'm crumbling around here. Here we go. Bro, how you doing? Good. You good? Appreciate you.

Congratulations on a great season, individually. Not the season that you wanted to have team-wise. What do you guys need to do in order to have success in the playoffs of your contending poor championship? Yeah, I mean, that's a really, really tough question. But wait, wait, really tough question, but... Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, be honest. Don't be politically correct, not here.

Okay, okay. Be straight up, like we in the barbershop now. Yeah, all right, all right. So we have to have those tough conversations as, you know, like just like as men, right? And we need to call guys up, right? Like just like not like calling them out. I just like call them up to like our standards.

We need what we expect more. Yeah, and that starts with everybody. Like that starts with me. That starts with every single person. And we just gotta find ways to close that gap because there's so many games that like, You were close. You know, like just like we were so close

and we just let it slip. Now I got a question. Now you speak games that like, you know, like just like we were so close and we just let it slip. Now I got a question. Now you speak about that gap, right? And obviously everyone's goal at the beginning of the season is you want to compete to be in San Francisco this year coming up, next year, obviously. What gaps do you think need to be filled in from an acquisition standpoint, offensively or defensively,

that can help you guys get to that end goal? Honestly, I think that we have a lot of our core guys. Right. And like before I can focus on anybody else, like I gotta focus on everything that I gotta do. Like I didn't have my best season. I mean, now there are some things that happened, but just like focusing like all myself,

like I have to do things to produce in any type of situation. Injury, just like guys are out there hurt too. So, yeah. Okay. There was a lot made of the situation. I think it was the Texans game. Your quarterback scrambled. He ended up taking himself out of the game.

I guess there was a team meeting. There were conversations that were had. The coach ended up benching him for a couple of a game not a week couple of he got bitch one game a couple of games And then I think black O field in or whomever came in for him What was those conversations like because I'm telling you as a player that been in the locker room has been a leader That's frowned upon when we feel a guy left us out there to try because the one thing is it's kind of like we Dumped it's nothing compared to the military. So military folks don't get me wrong, but it's like we leave no man behind Is that we're out here together? We're gonna fight together. We're gonna win together

We're gonna lose together, but the one thing we're not gonna do is leave the other guys behind What was that conversation that you had to have with your quarterback? Because I believe he's gonna be there for an extended period of time, Michael Pittman Jr. And you know, you guys are going to need him. Yeah, we had a so we actually had all of our team. So all of our team leaders from every single position group and we kind of had an hour long meeting and and we talked about everything Like it wasn't just centered around that, like it was everybody. But I think that was a good learning experience for him to know that that is not the standard

and that he can't do that and stuff like that. So it's all just learning. And I think that he handled that period of time well because everybody was like crashing on him, right? So we saw him show up earlier. We saw him put in more work and like kind of do the things necessary to kind of earn everybody's trust back.

I like that. I like that. Did you notice the difference from that time that before that to the time that happened to after that? Did you notice a noticeable improvement in him? Absolutely. Like from, like just like after that benching, I felt like he came out and he really was playing a lot better. You know, I got a question.

People at home, people that are watching, we always get to see the finished product, right? The finished product of a player and what they do. You get to see them on Sundays. What do you think you need to work on as far as your game is concerned and how you can better be in a better receiver? Yeah.

I know you're not where you wanna be. Oh yeah. Yeah, absolutely. I think that my next step is being able to recognize coverage at a level that a quarterback can, right? Because like, I mean,, I can see coverage, but I see half of the field. And I'm not as good as just like Patrick Mahomes,

obviously, because he can read the entire field quickly. So just getting to that point. Yeah. Any time, before you go, any time, if you get to that point the game slows down tremendously Yeah, no matter how many bluffs no matter how many disguises they do you already know what's coming based off tendencies and down and distance But when you get to that point, well, you're gonna love it. Yeah, let me ask you a question When you go outside you line up

Are you looking across the field at the other side to see what's going on over there? No, so so well, I mean I'm really focused on corner, nickel, safety. Okay, right. And then like if it's corner backer safety, like if it's nickel, dime, or like if that backers are like mugged up, like it's gonna be pressure. But rarely do I ever get to scan the whole field

because like I'm thinking about, hey, like I'm gonna give him like this move right here and he brings his hands up like I'm gonna do this if that doesn't work then I got to do that right so yeah. Let me ask you a question like we broke it down okay down in distance area of the field for who they have on the field and it would dictate kind of the coverage now they might switch it up but down in distance where we on the field we know 85% of the time they like to run this. Down in distance, area of the field where we are, we backed up, we at midfield, we in plus territory, we in the red zone. So that gave me a little bit of an insight. Now I was different because I learned as a tight end because I'm looking at fronts.

They're going to play certain fronts. They're going gonna play certain coverages behind certain fronts. Yeah. Now you're not really looking at that. So now if I could just if you like take a look back like okay They got four down linemen. Okay, blah blah blah. They got four. They're playing nickel four two five. Okay, they're playing they're playing dime They're playing four one six. Okay, it'll give you a tip It'll give you a hand up of what the potential is not always don't go chasing ghosts But you'll have an extra, just that extra step. And you know, sometimes a half an inch is all it takes to between you being open or you being closed. Oh yeah, that's all it is.

Yeah, most definitely. Thank you for that. Yeah. So what you're doing down towards Super Bowl, what are you promoting? Yeah, so I'm here with Toyota. I've actually been working with them for a whole year now. So we're down here supporting the future generation of athletes. And then they also have something for fans here at the Super Bowl experience where they can go sit in cars with team Toyota athletes.

So like just like it's a really cool deal. That's dope. That's dope. Hey, Michael, appreciate you tell your dad to say hello. Absolutely. Thank you. Glad you're doing well man. Congratulations, continue success. Oh yeah.

And good luck next year man. Hey, better when the Colts are in the playoffs. Yes sir, thank you. Thank you. Michael Pittman Jr. joined us on behalf of Toyota. It is great, great to see these young fellas come out, do their thing. Get very excited to see.

The NFL is in great hands, Ocho. Oh yeah, that's definitely. You know people are like, oh this, no, no, no, do their thing. Get very excited to see it. The NFL is in great hands, Ocho. Oh yeah, that's definitely. You know, people are like, oh, no, no, no, no, no. Guys are gonna come and guys are gonna go. Eventually, we saw Peyton leave, we saw Brady leave, see Drew Brees leave, and then you see Mahomes, and you see Burrows, and you see LeBarth Jackson, you see the Josh Allen, and the running backs leave,

and you get Derrick Henry, and you get Saquon, you get all these up-close five receiver. It's a young man's game Yeah, and so the NFL is the NFL is in great hands with these these young and up-and-coming Superstar players that are and it's very very very exciting to see But back to my miles Garry, though, Joe Yeah, I just think that's a situation where he doesn't really have a choice He could sit there and they can pay him a ton of money. Yeah, no, what good is a ton of my bro I'm trying to already made a ton of money. Yes. Yeah money is money's not the fact at this point

I really want to what he truly wants to win because you think about this isn't in this isn't even his character Yeah, then he's not the type to add he barely even talk. Yeah, so, you know, he's fed up. He understands My window of opportunity is very short. Yes. I would love to compete or at least try, at least be in contention, you know? That's all you can hope for. That's all you can hope for, so I'm sure, listen, the Cleveland Browns organization, Miles Garrett has done right by you for a very long time.

He's given you all he has. The fans should be able to understand that and allow him and grace an opportunity to seek that trade and give him a chance to win a title. Because it gets tough at mid-season, you know you're not going to the playoffs. him and grace an opportunity to seek that trade and give him a chance to win a title. Because it gets tough at midseason, you know you're not going to the playoffs. So guess what? I got a bad hit.

It's cold. Cleveland is cold. We practiced outside and I ain't got, all I'm doing is trying to finish out the season strong. The only thing I got to look forward to, Ocho, is the Pro Bowl potentially making it all Pro. Maybe win individual awards. Well, he's already, he's been to the Pro Bowl.

He's been on the first team all Pro. He's been defensive player of the year. Yeah. OK, so there has to be a next step. Yeah. There has to be a maturation process where I'm competing for a championship. Yeah.

That's the only thing left. That's it. That's the only thing left for him. That's it. And sometimes people don't understand that. I believe two things can be true. I believe you can make a ton of money and chase a championship. Yeah, you can. You can.

So I just want to get the... No, no, no, bro. I'm telling you, when you make money and you invest that kind of time because you're away from your family, you're lifting those weights, what you eat, how you dedicate yourself. And then you out there, man, it's cold, it's 10 degrees outside. Man, it's one it's 10 degrees outside man It's one thing to put in all the work on all those years to put in all the money's good The money's always a good thing

You have to put in the kind of work Miles Garrett has done to date to this point and then not have the chance To reach the pinnacle of your childhood dream, you know, their steps is the process to absolutely into the league. Okay, cool Achieving the accolades. Okay, I've done that. He is a player of the year. Okay, I've been to Pro Bowls. I've been all pros. What's next? Yeah, it's only one thing that's next. Yeah, first pick. I mean think about it, first pick in the draft. Defensive player. He lived up to everything. Yeah, he lived up to all of that. Yes. Now he wants to be one of those guys to get to and contend. Not necessarily. It's like I think he can, get to and contend. Not necessarily, it's like, I think he can, obviously the ultimate goal is to reach the promised land,

to be here playing in New Orleans, or next year be playing in San Francisco. But at least give me that opportunity. I need that opportunity, and if it doesn't happen, bro, I gave it 13, 14, 15, however long he's going to play. I gave it everything I possibly could to achieve that. But he knows for the foreseeable future, that is not possible in Cleveland. No.

And you know what the fans, hopefully the fans understand that. I know how they are when players ask for a trade, they get upset, they get mad because their loyalty is to the team. But understanding what Miles Garrett has done for that team through the entirety of his career, when they were losing, always showing up, I would hope they understand and I hope management and the people upstairs also understand that you can continue to build and then trade him with some value and continue to build for the foreseeable future. Yeah, they need a quarterback. They need more pieces and I think the

pieces that you can get for a miles gap. Yeah, you'd love to be in a situation to keep miles, but miles have made it. Miles has made it abundantly clear. Right. He wants to move on. He wants to an opportunity to compete. And I don't believe there. None of these guys is coming into draft is Jane Daniels or has that kind of ability. And I don't think the team is that close.

And I said it before, I think Cleveland is further away than what Washington was. Right. And so with that being said, go ahead, package in, get two first rounders, get a second round, the third rounder, maybe a potential player back. Yeah. And start the building process. They're gonna take a quarterback. They're gonna take a quarterback. Cleveland. I don't know which quarterback, but they're going to take one. There's only two available. First of all, Deshawn's not going to be available. Right, because he's missing this entire season.

He toured the Achilles and he retoured. So who are we talking about, Cam or Chidur? That's going to be a very, very interesting valuation process. Different skill set, very interesting valuation process. They, they, they different skillset. Cam is more athletic. I think Shador is more accurate. You look at it, both played against top competition. Shador coached by his father, has been a quarterback his entire life.

I think Cam Ward has been a quarterback his entire life. It's just going to come back down to, okay, which guy do we feel? Fits our system. feel fits our system? And we could turn the keys over to him. I think both guys, because at the end of the day, when I'm taking a player that high, I want to be able to fit my phone down. And if I put it on silent, you got to worry about nothing. Yeah, I got to worry about getting a call.

Hey, you know, I'm sorry, Coach Stefanski, we got a problem. I don't believe either guy. You have to worry about receiving a call. Hey, you know, I'm sorry, coach Stefanski, we got a problem. I don't believe either guy will have to worry about receiving that call. Absolutely not. And so that's going to be this is when GMs make their money. Oh, yeah. Hey, if I'm in a spot because you're picking high and you got to choose. I mean, hey, if I'm in the 20th spot and the guy falls to me, he lands in my lap. Right. I mean, Brett Beach trading'm in the 20th spot and the guy falls to me he lands in my lap, right? I mean Brett Beach Trading up to take Patrick Holmes and trading trading up to take Xavier worthy. That's when you burn I mean if I just stand Pat no just take okay. I'm in the 16 slot. Okay, I take that guy That guy turned out to be great. They don't really do nothing Yeah, but when you got to make a decision you did not

Knowing right that you you take a quarterback right now on show, you don't want to take another quarterback for another 10, 15 years. Yeah. But that's the hard part, finding that quarterback where you don't have to take one for another 15 years. Whatever Harry Roseman and Lurie are doing over there with the Eagles, listen, the NFL has always been a copycat league, especially when it comes to watching film and things that you see work on other teams as

With the opponents coming up that you're playing. Yes. Well, the GMs need to do the same thing, right? Whatever the Hunts are doing whatever Lurie and Howard, Howard Roseman doing they need the copycat the other GMs need the copycat What they see the Eagles do but how we had to know something They had just gave Carson Wentz a ton of money. Oh, yeah And you take a quarterback in the second round, Ocho? Yeah, but he got the injury, remember? But no, they, but uh... He needs security blanket.

But he had already come out that injury. And I gave him a boatload of money, Ocho. Normally we don't see that. Imagine you pay a defensive lineman that kind of money. And then you turn around and they're like, boom. I don't think the Eagles taking another D lineman. You got Jayla Carter, you got Jordan Davis, you got Williams.

I don't think them taking a left. Like I said, he knew something. Something, yeah. And then guess what? Boom. You know what? I mean, now you hear all these rumblings that how he was as a teammate.

You see how he was not willing to take the coaching see They see things and they know things that the general population can see Right privy to right and so now it's not a surprise given what we know about said situation, right? It's almost like the Luca Luca people and people this would give me about still don't get it man I don't care if he 300 pounds see People love spending other people's money. You would care if it was your 350 million now a restaurant give you bad service You won't go back. Mm-hmm. That's 24 that's 40 billion Oh, yeah, but also when you look at it, I look at it look at it from a fan's perspective

You look at the output and what you produce is when he's on the court. Yes. Yes it, I look at it from a fan's perspective. You look at the output in what he produces when he's on the court. Yes, yes. It outweighs, and the value is there. Does it outweigh 350 million? Shh. See, that's what they're looking at, Ochoa. They're like, yeah, yeah, I get it. But he ain't gonna always be 24.

He's not gonna always be 25. So what happens when he gets 26, 27, 28? And if he has some of those, what's being reported? All of these are reports. You and I are not there. We can just base on what they, but in order for them, and like I said, they keep, people are killing Nico Harrison. But when you make a move this big, it goes up higher than Nico. Oh yeah, most definitely. Nico is the one, with the face of it. Hey, it's Bobby Bones.

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They wanted to sign Drew Brees, but he had an injury. Many men say nah. Nah. That shoulder, yeah. And so Nico is taking the brunt of it and that's what you have to do sometimes, Coach O. You got to be the face of what seems to be a bad decision. But and not everybody say well well, what happens when they don't want to pay that super max contract?

Well, we're going to find out. Listen, I think things are going to work out because if there are issues internally, especially with Lucas, far as working out weight, he's at the right place. He would go he would he had the right place. Let's see. Now, if Houston, excuse me, not Houston, if OKC don't give Shay Gildge's that max contract, then I'm gonna say, okay, the owners are trying to save money, the owners don't wanna spend these,

don't wanna pay these max contract. Whoa, whoa, whoa, they can't. They can't play with Shay like that. Why not? You can't. Because he's the complete opposite. Shay has that same DNA as Kobe. Shay has that same DNA as Michael Jordan. Ain't no issues off the court. He works, he works.

Boy don't don't do that. Don't do that. He had no issues where? Off the court. Oh okay. Okay. Oh he gonna get that max. Let's see that's what I'm saying. We're gonna see the young guys that have been at a team for five plus years six. And now they're eligible for that super match. It'd have been interesting to see if Nicole Jokic is able. Now, if the Nuggets say, nah, we ain't about to pay Nicole no 350 million.

Man, please. See? Please. Now, when I think about Jokic and I think about Luka, what's the difference? What's the difference? Same style of play, same methodical movement, efficient when they're born, no weaknesses, liability on defense a little bit. Yeah. Yo, Yogi ain't nothing. But here's the thing. Now, like what's the difference?

Yogi says, I was fat. I realized I was drinking too much soda. I cut the sodas out. I dropped 20 pounds and boom. Boom. Boom is, three of the last four years, he's been the MVP. Uh, the net leader, he didn't win it. He was second. Right. He's won a final. He's been to the finals. He's won finals MVP. I think a lot of that goes because I think the thing is, Ocho, like when you look at what a young guy that has issue, I don't want him to become an old guy with issues. And I definitely don't want to become an old guy with issues when I got to pay him

70 million dollars a year. I got you. The cashier at McDonald's has a different responsibility than the manager. See, the guy that got the keys to open up the restaurant, he can't be late. The coach can be late, because we got somebody else that can get on the grill. The guy that got the keys to the store, he can't be late. Because my mother need to be coming out there at 5.30.

Yes, sir, because I'm going to be in line. We had Michael Pittman Jr. He talked about the situation with Anthony Richardson, that the every the leaders Mm-hmm in every group running backs quarterback the way obviously quarterbacks wide receivers D line and had a conversation. Yeah And I owe you bro. You can't do oh Joe You and I I think the thing is sometimes oh Joe because when you play a sport you see things differently And things that that fans or casual fans was like, blah, blah, blah.

That doesn't work in a locker room guy at all. It's a different mentality in a locker room. It's a different mentality than a normal workplace. And so, and I thought he did a great job of explaining it and saying, look, we let him know he said it, you know, he started being, you know, first one in last one to leave. I can't a quarterback not be the first one in and the last one to leave. Oh, yeah. With all the responsibility that's on his plate.

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, OK, if you want to be a long snapper, I you come in like five minutes before you leave suited. Hey, suited practice. So that them guys ain't got no media. Right. Right. You know, only position with specialty.

They ain't got no media. The kid could have part of what you mean for they will snap you the ball. You're going to put it. Right. Hey, we go kick the ball. Okay. Stuff like that. But most of the time kickers, punters, snappers, they don't have special.

Yeah. They own their own program. They do their own thing. Yeah. But for me, I just didn't understand it and I'm glad they had the conversation with him he gonna be alright though yeah you're gonna be alright sometimes too much too much talent sometimes sometimes oh Joe it me you need a wake-up call like yes because because he was so talented I'm not so

sure they ever had these tough conversations with him at Florida. Right. And sometimes guys try to come in with tough conversation. Don't when you don't have these tough conversations, he's always been supremely talented in high school, college. And so they're not going to have these kinds of conversations, but in the NFL, Oh, when they pay you that kind of money, Oh yeah, those conversations.

Absolutely. And rightfully so. Andy Reid says he'll coach at least, at least one more season. At least one? What he said. I'm not buying that. I'm not buying that.

I don't think Patrick Mahomes is buying that. I think what Andy Reid has the ability to do as a head coach of the Kansas City Chiefs and do something that's never been done before and they could probably run the gauntlet for another two or three years. They can run the gauntlet for another two or three years. Even if Travis Kelsey decides to retire,

they are so good or Patrick Mahomes is so good, you can plug and play. Travis Cheetah leaves, Tyree. You can plug and play. Travis Kel- Cheetah leaves, Tyrekeel leaves, plug and play. Super Bowl. Man, not just one, two of them. Travis Kelce leaves, you plug and play. You find someone else. You got Noah Gray. He takes over the pot. I go make a trade for my, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh,'s unfair again. That's what I'm going to that's why I just say you you plug and play you lose one You bring someone else in right? I say he's nice. He's a little different than Travis He'll be different styles of play. He can get it. He can get it done I'm not sure how they would use them based on him being as athletic as he is

He's a little different than Travis Kelsey Yeah, you know, but man listen as long as you got 15 over there, man, the Kansas City Chiefs are basically the Tom Brady and Belichick of this era. Who who's the coaching waiting? Or is he on staff? Is it Spags? Is it Nagy? Is it do they go outside? You can't go outside because you want to keep the continuity. You want to keep the continuity. You want to keep the same often. You want to keep the same mindset. You want to keep the same culture. want to keep the same often. You want to keep the same mindset. You want to keep the same culture. So how do you do that? It has to be somebody that's already under Andy Reid that can come in and take over. If anything, it would be specs. It makes sense. It only makes sense

or bring somebody have the Airbnb come back, maybe not as a head coach, but as the play card because he already knows the offense. Right. That'd be very, very interesting. That'd be very, very, very, very interesting to see. Um, that I'm surprised that he said that he's only looking at one more year. Uh, it seems like, but you don't know. The coaches, the responsibility that's on their plate and the hours that they put in a lot. And, and it's good. And it's been doing this for a while

Yeah, what 99 was his first year as a head coach. Mm-hmm. So and he's been coaching He was there with the 40 he's with the 49ers. He was on coach Walsh staff Then Mike brought him with him to Green Bay, so and he's been coaching Damn, they're 40 years. Ooh. Because my brother, he was in Green Bay with my brother. My brother and Mike, Mike Holmgren got there in 92

and he came with Mike from the 49ers. So. I don't see it happen. Because I'm gonna put myself in Andy Reid's shoes and understanding not as a team, but the individual accolades You know the individual achievements that I can achieve, you know, there are some there are some records that are right there within reach Yeah, there's some records that are right there with you know within reach for Andy Reid

I don't think he steps away from the game until he surpasses those records Who's gonna take him a while to Ocho? Coach Coach Schuyler coach Sch Coach Schula is 328 wins. Fake 328. Where's Andy Reid right now? Andy Reid is at 273 regular season wins. Right. He's at 301 if I'm not mistaken. Playoff wins. Total wins, 340-70 is the record. Coach Schula. You know he can get that right? 10 wins a season? It's definitely possible. Yeah. 10 wins a season, it's definitely possible. Yeah, okay.

10 wins a season. That's another, let's just say for the sake of argument, for another six seasons. Yeah. Yes, it's possible. You got that 15, man. Oh yeah, I know. He's special.

The question is, is not whether or not it's possible, do I wanna put that kind of time in? Cause that's what it is because that's what it did That's what it did. You know what at this at this point? That car can run itself When you have a special player like that when Peyton Manning was with the Colts who ran everything? No, the car can run itself Patrick Mahomes has got to the point where he's as good as he is It can it can it can is, it can run itself.

Good, good. It can run itself. What's up, bro? You good? That's all, that's all. All right, guys, joining us on the set right now, night cap, okay, day cap, Jalen Milrow, former quarterback of the Alabama Crimson Tide, who decided to give up his final year of eligibility to go into the NFL draft.

Jalen, thanks for joining us. So what are you repping in? You're just here for the Super Bowl, but what's going on? What are you selling? Yeah, so I'm repping Auto Trader. Okay. They made this event possible for me.

So I'm coming from Orange County, California, long day of travel. Yeah. And it's a great opportunity to be here. Definitely inspired to understand where and why I'm here, at Super Bowl, where I'm inspired to achieve my next dream which is during the draft process right now. So you know I'm representing the Auditorium today. I got a question. This is not where you really want to be. You want

to be prepared for the game. This is the first time so hopefully in the future we don't see you back here again. No doubt, no doubt in this. Yeah, yeah, no doubt, no doubt. Thinking about it, has the process been getting ready for the dream? Yeah, so the best thing right now, I'm able to pour into myself right now and invest in myself. One thing that's unique about the office is there's no shot clock. So you have time to develop, time to pour into things that you need to improve on. So I'm around a lot of great people where I'm at. I'm in Orange County with Jordan Palmer and Mike White.

Jordan. Yeah. My backyard, man. It's just to add it, man. Yeah. Yeah, so I'm with them right now. So it's been fun to build each and every day and find beauty in the process.

Yeah. So what does Jalen Melrose need to work on in order for him to get to the level of quarterback that he wants to be and know that he can be? Because obviously there's some things that you need to work on. There's no finished products coming into the draft. There's no finished products once you enter the draft. But what is the most important thing you feel you need to work on? Putting my body in the best way fashion as far as efficiency to get to make every throw

on the football field. Okay. That's number one. Number two, the exposure to the NFL, although I lack experience, it's come from watching tape, it comes from being in that system. And so during this process, I've been able to do that.

We're going to the Reese Bowl, we're going and working with Jordan Palmer, being able to reflect on tape and acknowledge, you know, where the area of weakness is to strength and why you're able to do that by playing. So, you know, for me, the transformation from 2023 to 2024 being a first year starter, then my final season in college. And so just exposure piece number one, but also just having this off season to really

narrow down how can I put myself in the best way efficiently to make every throw on the football field because that's what's going to be needed when it comes to performing on Sundays but also playing on time, playing us upright and doing things the best way fashion so we can lead our offense to win. What do you think is the biggest transition from high school to college, college to the pro although you haven't played in the pro yet but I'm here you say you're working with Jordan Palmer and I'm sure there are those guys are telling you what you need to do the biggest. What do you think the biggest transition is going to be for you?

So it all starts with preparation. You know preparation is so key. Taking care of your body is number one and making sure that you're getting the amount of sleep that you need. You know nutrition wise what you need to be feeling your body. All those things. Number three after that is how you pulling guys along. Of course you can talk X's and O's and something like that, but do I have a relationship with my receiver? Do I have a relationship with my tight end? Do I know how Osho run his route?

Do I know how you run your route? Just knowing each guy runs their route differently on the football field and having that relationship with them is so important. And then when it talks to going to the NFL is all about how do you process the game? Everybody processes the game differently, but how often are you getting with your officer coordinator, head coach and something that I try to do is see football in the lens of the play caller at the quarterback position so that we're moving

the right way fast because coach is calling this play on third down because he saw this in preparation. It's just little things like that. When it comes to being the best quarterback I can be. And so it's all started with preparation, you know, preparation builds confidence. You know, when you get, we trust the field on Sunday, it's time to roll and that's how to think it's time to roll. It's time to, trying to fall back to your level of training. And so the times where you make your mistakes in the preparation phase

is going to help you out when it comes to Sundays and so like I mentioned you know what's unique about the offseason no shot clock so during that time frame it's all about building. I like it. The thing that I've heard most about you is inconsistent. They said look the guy can make every throw on the field he has a big time arm we know the kind of leg that he has there haven't been very many quarterbacks to rush for 20 touchdowns in the season pass for 20 touchdowns in the season in the SEC history. We know what that conference represents. But when you hear that inconsistent, inconsistent, how does Jaylen get better at those inconsistencies?

The objective is to win, right? So you can go back to the drawing board and, you know, fix whatever needs to be fixed, you back to what you need to improve on, but each and every week that you had to play, the objective is to win. And so it's not worrying about external factors, worrying about what's been said or anything like that. It's all about what your teammates think of you, what your head coach think of you,

your office in the corner think of you. Because during the journey, of course you want to play these back, you know, some games, my best game in college, I want to play these back. So there's always some time where I can pour into, you know, looking at some things that I can get better at because, you know, one thing that's unique about us as athletes that we have strengths and we have weaknesses.

And so something that is also a social norm that we overlook, what's our strengths and what's gonna make us all unique. And so of course, you know, I'm not a finished product, you know, some areas of growth I definitely need to make strides to so I can lead properly when it comes to the NFL. But one thing I'm not going to lose sight of is with most of my shrimps.

And acknowledging that each week that I had to play the game, the objective is to win. No matter what it looks like. No matter if I had the most production or I had the less production, the objective is to win. And the mindset come from these two quarterbacks playing in the Super Bowl right now is win, baby, win. You know what, when I look at you, I've watched you play extremely talented, whether it's your legs,

whether it's you putting the ball in the air, your ability to make all the throws. One of the things we always gaze quarterbacks off of is being on the left hash and being able to throw a 20-yard comeback on the opposite side of the field. You can do that. You got a rope on you.

And watching you play, you have the ability to change the organization You have the ability to change a franchise similar to what Jayden Dayham did coming in Scissorwood see they shroud enjoying level obviously done If you get to the point where we know what your strengths are Forget your strengths take your weaknesses and make them stronger what they are now and get everything balanced right where you all were I've seen it with my own eyes. I don't need to be a scout, I don't need to be a gym. You special, and I'm telling you that right here in your face.

I ain't never met you, but I ain't never seen you before, but I seen you play, but I got an eye for the game, and I know what you can do. Boy, you're gonna be all right. I'm telling you, you're gonna be all right. I'm gonna get y'all to hear the last question for me. What is the biggest difference between Coach Saban and Coach DeBeer?

So, one thing that's for certain is the stand-up excellence that they both present for a program and distinguishing the two, I think the biggest thing about both of them is just how they run a program. It's just a little different but it's always go back to how they push each and everybody to be the best version of themselves on and off the field. You know, with Coach Saban, we achieved so much. You know, I had him for three years, but this past season with Coach DeBoer, it was our first year having a higher GPA that we had in school history as a football team. So we were able to achieve that, right? Yeah.

And there's so many areas of wins, you know, when you can think about being a person. And so I was able to do that with Coach D'Aubourg and Coach Saban. And so for me, it's all about the knowledge base. I learned so much from Coach Saban, Coach D'Aubourg, one coach being offensive minded, one being defensive minded. So the aerial growth of learning about each side of the ball. So, you know, it's hard to distinguish the two because they both great at what they do.

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