Club Shay Shay - Nightcap - Hour 1: Jets shock Texans, Anthony Richardson benched, Unc’s sneaker auction

Episode Date: November 1, 2024

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson react to New York Jets Aaron Rodgers throwing for 3 TDs vs. C.J. Stroud and the Houston Texans on Thursday Night Football for their first win in 5 weeks. Later, Unc and Ocho discuss Indianapolis Colts QB Anthony Richardson being benched for veteran Joe Flacco in Sunday Night’s game against Sam Darnold and the Minnesota Vikings, Unc previews some of his favorite sneakers from his private collection that he will be auctioning off on November 1st with Whatnot and much more!03:13 - Show start03:38 - Intro06:30 - Texans v Jets22:47 - Anthony Richardson44:56 - whatnot auction…(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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The New York overcame several inflicted mistakes to snap a five game losing streak handed the Houston Texas the second loss in three games. Aaron Rogers threw three touchdown passes at the Jets end of their losing streak at five games in the first half. Jess Malachi-Courley dropped the ball before crossing the airline. Dum-dum. That would have been a 19 yard touchdown. And the ball touched the bat cause it rolled out of the end zone. JJ Watt had this to say on Aaron Rodgers, is this a joke? He was talking about, Aaron was talking about he's drinking cayenne pepper in water.

I think that's what he is, cayenne pepper in water. And JJ is like basically bro, we keep talking about y'all and you talking about cayenne pepper in water. Score some touchdownss win some games because this is what you're in New York for and To make matters worse for the Texans. They lost this game, which is their second in three weeks Oh Joe, they also learned that Stefan digs suffers a season ending a CL injury So Stefan digs is gone. Remember they've been without Nico Collins for like the last three weeks.

Tankdale stepped up big tonight, but it wasn't enough. The, uh, CJ, CJ hadn't been playing well, Ocho. He hasn't been playing well. There's no way around it. And, and the offensive line is getting, getting killed. But tonight, 11 of 30, 191 yards, eight of 50, eight sacks for 56 total yards. Go ahead. So, okay.

CJ not playing well, right? Yeah. The old line is abysmal. They horrible. They're playing really bad. Not only is the old line horrible, you lose digs. Nico Collins is out. There's nothing wrong with Robert Woods and nothing wrong with Macy.

There's nothing wrong with Tang Dale. Tang Dale had a good night. I think he had six or seven eight catches for one hundred twenty six dollars a night. But it's different when you don't have them horses. It's different when you don't have them horses. It's different. And then the Ola is not playing well. There's really nobody you can actually count on to get open for you. There's no security blanket.

So this is what you get tonight. This is what you get tonight. And then on the opposite side, finally, the Jets show some promise. Finally, Aaron Rodgers shows some promise. Yes. Late in the game because the first half was horrible, boy. Yeah. He had 32 passing yards. First half was a doozy from both sides of the ball. You know, goddamn Stroud sacked seven, eight times. Eight. Aaron Rodgers missing, missing, missing shots. Easy shots that him and Devontae normally hit on. Yeah, but Devontae dropped one. He had, he had him against Stingley Jr. He dropped that one. That was just a drop. Yeah, he did drop that one. But I think in order for them to get on the same pace, they got to be able to hit shots like they hit the night and get themselves into a rhythm.

And Aaron Rodgers does this. He plays bad, plays bad, plays bad, plays bad. And then all of a sudden he'll go into a spurt. We look like, oh, there's the magic. There's what we've been looking for from you. This is what it should look like. This is what we have to look forward to. And I don't know who they play next week. So it's only two things can happen.

Either they're gonna continue to get better and improve offensively, or they're gonna regress and go back to what we saw the previous five weeks. Yeah, I think the thing is for me, Ocho, when I look at CJ and knowing the offensive line is and playing well, you can't make every play. You see, he's spinning out, trying to spin out and he's losing yards, getting sacked. Bro, it's okay to throw the ball away in the direction of you have a receiver. Right.

I, because one time you got sacked and you end up pushing your kicker back and he missed the field goal now I'm not so sure that four yards that he lost on the sack would have helped because hell but when he left the kickers foot Hell, I can tell it was off So unless they expand the goal post to be the width of the end zone that one gonna be any good anyway But he just has to understand Ocho knowing that and maybe they have to shorten up some of these routes My offensive line isn't good right now. I don't know if it's injuries or they're just playing bad, but you

got to shorten up these routes because you're not going to have time to let something develop down the field playing behind this offensive line. Go ahead. And not only that, I'm not sure the offensive coordinator is for the Houston Texans, but without Nico Collins, without, uh, Stefan Diggs, I'm thinking, you know, the whole three-step five-step drop, the play action passes, you need to eliminate that from the playbook until you can figure out what you want to do. Condense the splits, put people in motion, find ways, find ways to get them, find ways to scheme them, find ways

to scheme them open because you don't, you don't have those horses. You don't have your Stefan, you don't have your Nico Carlos, you do have Tengdale. Now I'm not saying nothing is wrong. There's nothing wrong with Robert Woods or Meaty, but you got to be a little bit more creative to help your quarterback out. Yeah. It shouldn't look like that tonight. It shouldn't look like that. Tonight. It shouldn't look like that. That's the CJ shroud we saw last year.

It shouldn't. It shouldn't regress to this point. And we shouldn't be able to use injuries for so with the office, the coordinator has to do. He has to manipulate the offense so CJ Stroud can still be efficient. You got to change some things up. If your personnel is different on the outside of the receiving position, then you have to do something different. You got to play to their strengths on what they do well. Don't try to run the same offense when you don't have a Nego Collins out there and you don't have a Stefan Diggs.

You got to change some shit up. When they got, when the Jets hit the center knowing that the center's protected, and they got, I didn't like the play selection. Two runs and then a pass. And CJ was off because he had met you now I don't know if he felt the pressure or he just missed him Ocho, but he had met you on the whip route Right and he had at least the first down and who knows if he makes the guy miss maybe he has a touchdown But we know he has a he's beyond the first down depth the fight He's beyond the line to gain the first down.

So, but that's what happens when you get hit early and you get hot often, you start seeing things even if it's not there. And so that's why you try to get to the quarterback early to impact him for later. And it definitely showed his head tonight. And again, CJ was 11 of 3491 yards. He got sacked eight times.

Give this Jeff's defense credit. They got after him tonight. You know what's funny? They ran the ball well. Yeah, they was running the ball. 36 runs is a buck 87. They ran the ball real well. Yep.

JJ Taylor had three for 23. CJ on scrambles with eight of 59. And Joe Mixon was 24 for a buck was 24 for a buck. Oh six. So four and a half yards of care for mixing. Like I said, he ran the ball extremely well. He's played well all year long, except for that. What a couple of weeks that he missed with that hip drop tackle.

But other than that, I think he's been unbelievable. He's been one of the bright spots, the one of their most consistent players. Right. And matter of fact, and the fact that you say that you know Joe being so consistent and playing very well I'm still trying to understand why we let him go out there in Cincinnati I think I think I think the price I think you know teams don't want to play Think about it. You're already taking a pay cut. Yeah, but true. I agree because think about it Derek Henry took a pay cut because he was making 12. They took him all the way down to eight. And Derrick Henry was still giving you great production.

I mean, this is a bargain. That was a bargain for the Ravens. First of all, he'd have been a bargain for anybody. He'd have been a bargain for anybody. Eight million dollars because he's Derrick Henry. You know what he's going to get? He's going to get to twelve hundred. He'll leave that what? Nine. What? He's going to get to 1200. Hell, he's at what?

Nine, what? Eight, 46, 900 now. So he actually had nine 46. Okay. He had nine 46. So, you know, he's going to get you on a bad year. He's going to get to 1200 on a gray year. He's going to be somewhere.

15, 1600 exceptional year. He'll get to 2000. That's what he is. You know that. And for the most part, he's been fairly durable. Even the season that he missed, he had almost a thousand yards in like nine games. Yeah.

But- Young Bull is special, man. He is. He's defying things at his age, and I think he defying things at his age specifically because of the team he chose to go to. Right. his age and I think he defined things at his age specifically because of the team he chose to go to. Right.

The Jets snap a five game losing streak. Aaron Rodgers tosses three touchdown passes, hit Devontae in stride. Devontae got nicked, came back in the game, caught a touchdown. I'm sure he's feeling good about that. He had 11 targets, seven catches, 91 yard. Garrett Wilson made two phenomenal catches. And sometimes Ocho, you know this, when you're struggling, you have to make plays like this to help your quarterback out and to help your

team out. Everything is not going to be between the numbers. Everything's not going to be in a catch radius. So you're going to sometimes, sometimes when your office is struggling, you have to make an exceptional play. He made two exceptional plays tonight that really got the jets going offensively. And it seemed to give them a breath of fresh air. They're like, okay, yeah, we know now we know how to get the ball into the end zone and defensively they look and defensively sometimes you have to have games like, look, we got to go hunt the quarterback. Oh, Joe is really that simple.

Let's let's make it as difficult as they possibly can. Let's hold this team down and let our office get going. And once the Jess office got going, they played, I mean, they played well, but it took two exceptional catches from Garrett Wilson. And sometimes being having been in situations like this, it takes exceptional place to get an offense going. Wait, hold on, hold on. It doesn't always take exceptional place. Sometimes you could chop the wood, you chop the wood, chop the wood, chop the wood, chop

the wood, something. It's okay to run the bases instead of trying to hit the home run. No, but I'm saying when you own five chopping the wood, you get it done. Sometimes it just take an exceptional play to get the sideline going to get you going as an office. Because you know, methodically moving down the field, you're like, man, we've done this before. We ain't getting up to show for it. Now we got a one hand spectacular catch where he makes the catch on the run because the guy jets it and he throws it over and he makes a great catch, gets the ball in the end zone. And then on third and 19, Aaron gave him an opportunity to make a play. Now he had to make the play. But a lot of times the quarterback throws the ball out of the end zone. Now the DB jumped way too slow. I don't know where the hell he thought. He must be thought he had hang time like Jordan held the ball halfway there. He jumped. It's so nice. He coming down in the bottle,

but a gift. Gary Wilson, Gary Wilson played his tail off tonight, made some exceptional catches. He was short on the third down, got it, made the guy miss, got the third down. I thought he played well tonight. I thought Devante outside of that drop. I thought he played it really well tonight, but Rogers gave his guys an opportunity tonight to make plays. Hey, listen, I know they might've lost the last five and won a night, but there's a chance Aaron Roger can catch fire now, especially with the game. Like I said, there's a chance he can catch fire.

I know the first, the first quarter, the second quarter, it was abysmal. I know it was horrible in the third quarter. They played in Spurs They look good for a quarter. It looked a little decent if them goddamn Jets No, not even the Jets if Aaron Rodgers plays consistent football, I mean the AFC East get a little interesting I Don't know. I don't know. Oh Joe if they can catch Buffalo get a little interesting. I don't know. I don't know, Ocho, if they can catch Buffalo. Buffalo.

No, I didn't say they can catch Buffalo. Oh, you talking about make a playoff bet, because you're going to take 11 team. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. All they got to do is play consistent. He can make a little run. I'm just saying, based on what he has,

a rounding with Breece Hall, Garrett Wilson, Devontae Adams. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. If they get into any kind of rhythm and get some chemistry and a little confidence, I I would, I'm just saying I wouldn't be surprised. Yeah. I wouldn't be surprised. Ocho the news of the day, Young Thug is going home. Um, he played. Hey, hey, that's perfect. Club Shaysay. Club Shaysay Young Thug. Thugger. Uh, he. Matter of fact, wait a minute. You could do a duo. You could do, do a do Him and gonna say big meets young thug. Yeah Yeah, yeah, because listen I I used to work with never mind never mind, um, but he's going home

Um, there's long travel He might be home by now Probably He probably probably is once that barn post. I know there are some, there are some people, I mean, uh, the hip hop community, the rap community in Atlanta. I saw a lot of, a lot of tweets, a lot of posts about, uh, about thugger coming home. Um, you know, there are some stipulations.

Um, he has to leave Metro Atlanta. Um, he can't talk to anybody. He can't talk to anybody that's affiliated with gangs, except his brother and Gunnar. Um, he's on probation for what 15 years 15 yeah, so Put me on probation rest of my life. I ain't gotta go in the can for 20 30 40 bad Hey, but listen and then he has to move from Atlanta, right? Yeah, he can't be in Metro Atlanta. So a

Atlanta, what does that mean? I mean, what are the specifics? Fulton County. Atlanta's the group. So I go to Smyrna. I go to Gwinnett. They didn't say he had to leave Georgia. Okay, so he can still be within Atlanta. Go to Clayco.

Yeah. Hell, go to B I mean, that's making matter of fact, leave the whole state completely. Go somewhere else. True. And go somewhere else and focus on your music. But yeah, I mean, I saw who's that? Dre, Dre Z, TI, a lot of a lot of guys that, you know, welcome him home. Like I said, he's he's he's he's he's Like I said, he's a big thing in the rap community.

And he's coming home after this long, arduous trial. He said he didn't want to put his family through this anymore. And if he goes, give him an opportunity to come home and be with his kids, be with his family. I think he has a girlfriend. I don't really know much about Mariah the scientist. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Is that a name, Ocho? Okay. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Okay. I'll take your word for it. I don't really know a whole lot about it, but he's coming home and yeah. Hey, Gunna, you people see this? Come on, sit down on club, Shay Shay. Let's have us a good time.

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All it took was 10 games for the Indianapolis Coast to beat Anthony Richardson in favor of 39 year old Joe Flacco. Even though Richardson is just 22 years of age, 10 games was enough of a sample size to draw the conclusion that the last year number four overall pick hasn't gotten it done. Jalen Hurst is a prime example of giving a young quarterback an opportunity to develop. Hurst said his development is by, is why teams should be patient with young quarterback.

I think the thing I think things do take time. Think things take time and everybody has a different approach to going in. I wasn't supposed to be the guy I am today. Nobody expected that. But I took advantage of my opportunities. And that's what I encourage everyone to do, regardless. I don't like the move. I don't care what nobody say.

I don't like the move. It's your number four pick, right? Yes, number. Now, what I think what I'm saying is happening, I don't like the fact that they're benching him. For one, he didn't play a lot of college football. He didn't play a lot of college football. He didn't get a lot of snaps. The amount of snaps that needed to be able to come in and transition into the NFL and be prepared. Right. You know, just being big, strong,

fast and having an arm is not going to get it done. It's not going to get it done. So the only way to improve in the NFL is with reps, with reps, with No, I can get it. So the only way to improve in NFL is with reps, with reps, with reps, with reps. He's the future of the franchise. He's the number four quarterback. So the only reason I think they put Flacco in is to save the season. Do we have a chance to make a run? So we're going to do is before and for I think what they are for for. Right.

What's the take? What's the risk? What's the no, I don't know if they're they form for, I don't know if they run four games, Ocho, they might've not that I'm there for 4500. You're right. I see. I know. I knew it. So what they're doing with coach Mrs.

Mr. Stiken is doing, he's making a change because he feels the team has a chance and opportunity to make a run at some point. Anthony Richardson will be the future of the Colts, but right now we're going to put Flacco in because he gives us, they think, they feel, which is true statistically, Flacco gives them the best chance to win right now and compete. And this is a compete division because the Texans aren't what they were. Jacksonville is very here to miss. We know where the Titans are. So, and look, I know people are saying that, you know, he tapped out and that's one of the reasons,

but you got to look at his rec, Ocho, this guy has a worse completion percentage than Tim Tebow. Tim Tebow completed 46% of his passes. He's completed 46, 44%. That's 4% lower than Jamarcus Russell. Did we think Jamarcus Russell and Tim Tebow were good quarterbacks? No, we didn't. And his completion percentage is worse than theirs. He needs to, he needs time to watch. They put him in too quick when he wasn't ready. And what happens is, Ocho, is that when you draft someone that high and you draft him

into that position, you're not waiting because after the end of the third year, I'm going to have to make a decision. I'm going to have to get these guys 300, 400, $500 million. I need to see. Right. And in the process of that, because like you said, he didn't play a whole lot of football and he didn't play a whole lot of football in a pro style offense. Right.

A lot of his stuff, he was running the football. Well, you know, he said the NFL was easy. I can't tell if the NFL is easy and you complete 44% of your passes. What the hell you think would happen if the NFL was hard? Oh Joe. Can I tell you one more thing if the NFL was hard, don't you? Can I tell you one more thing, that I don't like? I'm just saying chat, y'all stay with me real quick,

real quick, like listen to me when it comes to the game of football, when you're drafted at high, you have expectations, you have friends, you have people telling you this, you that, and you get to the NFL, you get drafted that high, then you plan, you have a certain high, a certain, certain or and feeling about about yourself, where you feel good. You know what it feels like to get benched on?

Do you understand what it feels like to get benched though? As a quarterback, forget some of the other positions, because some of the other positions, you have an opportunity to bounce back, you know, and you have an opportunity to, to make those plays again. But as a quarterback, I think it does, especially when you're young, it does something to your psyche. I'm assuming it has to. It has to do something to your psyche.

So now you're telling me I'm playing bad. I'm playing so bad. You're going to sit me down and bench me for Joe Flacco. So if I do get the opportunity to play again, what's the first fucking thing I'm going to do? I'm going to be goddamn indecisive. Well, hopefully you learn. Hey, I'm going to be hesitant. I'm not going to make the big plays I was making earlier.

I just I don't know. Three games. It's weird to me like nine and ten passes. Hopefully, hopefully he gets an opportunity to sit and watch. And then he can come. He said, well, Joe, what if Joe asked him and he can ask Joe, Joe, what did you see? Why did you go there? Because that's the biggest thing.

Oh, Joe, you can't throw 30 passes and complete eight of them in the NFL. You're not going to win like that. Yeah. So you know what? And then we can't, we can't blame the receivers because they got they got a squad now. Yeah. And they got some boys now. I guess normally I would have mentioned

receivers, but they got they got some dogs that hit me. Junior hit man. They got another they got another guy. I forget the other guy name. I think he might be 15 or something, but he can go to number 10. OK, yeah. The name was I don't know his last name. But that boy be playing some 10. OK, yeah. The name was OK. I don't know his last name. Will that boy be playing some ball?

What? Oh Joe. Yes, sir. Uh, against Houston in the Sunday's loss, he was 10 of 32, uh, in a win against Miami, he was 10 or 24, uh, Pittsburgh. I think he, that's when Flacco came in. He was three or four against Chicago. He was 10 of 20 against green Bay.

He was 17 to 34 against Houston. He was 10 of 20 against green Bay. He was 17 to 34 against Houston. He was not a 19. Oh, you're not gonna win very many games with numbers like that, bro. Not, not in today's Elcho because they've set it up for you to throw the ball. Think about the incidental contact. Think about the holding.

Think about roughing the pass or think about so many things that can go right when you throw the ball. Yeah. Really when you run the holding, think about roughing the passer. Think about so many things that can go right when you throw the ball. Yeah. Really, when you run the ball, the only thing that can go wrong, go right for you is somebody face masking. There's a chance you get a holding on the offensive line.

There's a chance you get a holding on the wide receivers. So there are more things that can go wrong when you run the ball. Yeah. As opposed to when you throw it. Because there's so many things. Defense, illegal hands to the face, wide incidental contact, holding, pass interference, roughing the passer. The league has been set up for you to throw it. That's why they pay it. Why receivers making 30 million quarterback making 60 million. What does that tell you?

Oh Joe. Yeah. And running backs making 5 million. So what did they try to tell you to do? Oh Joe. Oh, that ball. Throw it. But I hope Alex, that's the name.

Alex. I hate that man. Oh Joe. It's okay. But I hope Alex, that's the name of the Alex. I hate that man. Oh, it's OK. It's not. I'm saying I mean, I mean, I say I mean, I only hate it. I'm talking about the mental part. I'm talking about the mental part,

because when you get benched, it does some to you. It's like losing your job and you get demoted. Yeah. And corporate in the corporate world, you're like, damn, all the motherfucking work I didn't put in, you know, I'm trying. It's not the numbers. The work I'm putting in is not turning into what it should be on Sundays what am I doing wrong? So what happened? Then you start questioning yourself. What happens when you get fired? Oh that's even worse. Yeah

see guess what I got fired from CBS what I do go get me a job at Fox got fired at Fox what I do go I just get big and bigger Right right because I learn Yeah, I learn and that's what he needs to do. He needs to learn I'll let everybody look everybody can say well he got fired because of this or he got fired because of that I'll leave I'll leave that to the other Twitter committee and the YouTube tribe because everybody has an opinion on what they think happened to transpire and nobody really knows because

You weren't in the room Right. Oh, he got fired because of this bro. Stop. You don't know Everybody likes to speculate. I like damn I didn't know oh Joe. I was this big of a commodity It seems like now everybody that got a YouTube channel got to talk about me. I appreciate it. You know, keeps my algorithm keep Ocho and the nightcap and club shake, keep us going. So I appreciate it. But.

He just needs to take a step back and don't look. You know what? You got to get better. You got you got to get better. It's really that simple. Got to go. You got no choice. choice. But I'm thinking about it. I mean, how do you get better at the quarterback position? Is it by taking reps? Is it by watching? It depends on what type of player he is. Yes. You know, it depends on what type of player he is. And the funny thing about it is, is you could do it over and over and over and over and over and practice. But when it comes to them bullets flying on game day on the real Sunday,

yes, it's different. You do it. Your decision making has to be on point. You got to be sharper than the number two pencil. Now, at the end of the day, even though you can rely on your athleticism, you still have to throw the ball from the pocket. And it helps that my home is greater improvisation. Great.

That Aaron Rogers was great at improvisation, but the end of the day, they still had to throw the ball with accuracy from the pocket, that athleticism. You can only go so far because them guys don't got them big guys over there. They catch your ass. And when they get you, they'll hurt you. They bow just as fast. Yes. hurt you. They bout just as fast. Yes. Especially today, they bout just as fast.

Yes. So I'm excited. I just hope he takes this, he learns from this, he grows from this, and he becomes the player that they selected him to be with the number four overall draft pick two years ago. And if he does that, don't cry, Opo, me, I didn't get a fair chance.

Bro, you got more than a fair chance. But they see that they got a chance in this division, Ocho. Yeah. That's why they made the change. Yes. That's why they made the change. So, Coach Wyre receiver, Josh Downs was asking

if he thinks he'll play with Anthony Richardson again. At the end of the day, Joe is like 40 years old. So he's only got so many more years. I'd say AR is 22, 23. He's still the number four overall pick. I know he's going to start again. I agree.

I agree. Check this out. Does the NFL have a quarterback development problem? Anthony Richardson, 22 bits. Bryce Young, 23 bits. Trey Lance, 24 bits traded. Justin Field, 25 bits. Will Levers, 25 bits.

Zach Wilson, 25 bits. Mike Jones, 26 bits. Kenny Pickett, 26 bits. Hey, that's a good one. You know what? Every quarterback you just name, the situation on why they were benched is different. The teams, the way the team is structured,

completely different. Some of those quarterbacks, in order to succeed, they would have to be damn near Superman. Yes. They would have to be damn, Bryce Young would have to be Superman. Eight manning would have to be there. Bright. Bright Young would have to be Superman. A manning a succeeded in that. People don't realize what Peyton had. He had Marvin Harrison and he had Marshall Falk when he got there and he had Ken Dillard. Yeah,

it's different. And he had what the other other? What was the other? He had another. No, he might have. He might have came later. I forget the other tight end name. But I know it's cool. No doubt. That was the way I was done going. But I'm saying Manning had a nice support system.

We arrived there. Think about it. Marvin Harrison was the first Ballot Hall of Fame. Marsha was the first first ballot Hall of Fame. Marshall was the first ballot Hall of Famer. He's the office player of the year. He's a an MVP. Man, look, you did what bright young guy? None of these quarterbacks had anything close to that.

No, I'm not sure they even have a pro bowl. Well, I think D.J. Moore went to the pro bowl. So I think Zack Wilson well, Gary Wilson was um What offensive player the year game was with offensive player of the year, but for the most part You got to have some weapons man Yeah, you guys Yeah, you got to surround them with a talent until he's able so you have to put pieces around him

Oh Joe to carry him until he can able run on his own and he can carry you carry the talent. Yes Yeah, right now. Oh, yeah Marcus Pollard. That was his name Marcus Pollard. Okay Agents are telling kids to stay in college if you don't have at least two years of starting. It depends. It's hard because Anthony Richardson probably got $30 million guaranteed and in three years he has an opportunity to make $250 to $300. How do you tell a kid to stay in school when that's on the horizon? Yeah, I think it's different though.

Every kid is different. You having to stay in school for two years, just because you stay in school two years doesn't mean you're going to transition and all of a sudden it's going to work out. Yes. You can stay in school one and go to the league and turn out to be, I'm not saying turn out to be Patrick Mahoney. Cam. Yeah, have a great season. Joe Burrow started basically one year. great season. Joe Burrow started one basically one year. Hey, listen, there's some players that are special and understand that you understand the skill set. Now I call it how sharp, how

sharp they are. Some, some players that take much longer. Some don't, some hit the ground running. But Ocho, you know what? We've got to get out this notion that everybody that comes in the NFL is going to succeed. When has that ever been the case? It's not oh Joe It's now that every think about how many other quarterbacks have flamed out. This is not unique Hey situation and circumstance matters. Yeah, we where you go matters. I really think it does I Mean, I mean I think the thing is now that we're like, oh he's a but sometimes it's just not meant to be Everybody that comes to the NFL ain't gonna have a there's a reason why the average NFL career is three years Because if everybody made it the average NFL career would be seven eight ten twelve. There's a reason why

And it's okay, I know look I know these guys oh man but it was so good in college how many times are we seeing guys that were so good in college not be able to cut it into NFL and there have been guys that didn't have great stellar college careers turned out to be great pros but we just can't say it's just like just because you go to Harvard you graduate a degree from Harvard that don Harvard, you graduate a degree from Harvard, that don't mean you're going to be the best businessman. That doesn't mean that you're going to be, it might give you an opportunity because you've had access. It opens some doors.

Yes. But at the end of the day, there could be somebody that went to an HBCU, that went to a mid school, that be just as great. So this notion that, oh, the system is failing, yeah, maybe in some situations, but even with great coaching, everybody is not going to make it. There's never been a situation that everybody, oh, he got a law degree.

Oh, he about to make 500,000 a year. Oh, he got a med degree. He's about to be a great neurosurgeon or a great this no No, it doesn't work like that guys Mm-hmm, but I think the thing is that we're looking at these these quarterbacks and we're playing We're paying less paying so much more close attention Right that we'd like damn what's going on? Yeah, and then it makes it even worse when they, when they're high picks, huh?

Because listen, when you, when you go that, when you go that high, not only do they have their own expectations, shoot us, even, even me as a fan, I have expectations as well. Of course. I'm expecting you to be the face of that franchise and change it. Show me why you pick, show me why they picked you that high. I enjoy it. Remember listen I want quarterback quarterback need to start talking shit. That's the problem. They too quiet What did Jamar Chase say before you got drafted when he got drafted? Yeah, but Jamar Chase I'm gonna go I'm gonna go there and break every record. What the hell is he on pace to keep on doing?

Guess what? Damn record Jamar Chase is going against 1 DB when you got Lemo foes trying to tear your head off There's a reason why quarterback keep their mouth shut. OK, OK. Because L.T. and T.J. Watt and Nick Bosa's going to bust your ass. So you go out there talking, oh, I ain't worried about nothing. What do you think will happen? What do you think? You know what's going to happen.

Hey, hey, could you imagine if you played quarterback? No, no, I couldn't. Cause my instinct is to talk ish. And the next thing you know, my helmet sideways. Hey, I was just thinking about that, man. That's funny. It's a whole different ball game. And sometimes guys come in with targets

on their backs anyway. Right, right. But look, and that's the thing. Also, Ocho, when these guys come in with targets on their backs anyway. Right. Right. But look, and that's the thing. Also, Ocho, when these guys come in, they not going. It's not a situation like James Worth it. He got drafted number one overall and went to the Lakers after they had just won the championship. If you are high draft pick at quarterback, you go into a bulljive team. Oh, yeah.

It's simple. It ain't no other way around it. Right. Ain't no quarterback getting drafted going and it's because it's different. You ain't getting drafted by the Chiefs if you're a quarterback anyway. Oh no, that ain't happening. And you're not getting drafted to Buffalo.

You're not getting drafted to any of the teams that went to the playoffs the year before. Right. So. And if you do, you're gonna be in the late rounds. Right. As a backup. And you're going to be in the late rounds. Right. As a backup. And you ain't got no expectations. They groom you. The you look at the chief.

They not taking a quarterback here. They might go get a quarterback that's been Carson Wentz. Right. Somebody got no expectations. You know what you're here for. If something happened to my home, we're going to need you for two or three games. You've been a start in this league. You aid you played some football. You play some football.

You played a lot more bad football than good football. But hey, we believe you can give us a stretch somewhere between three and five weeks until hopefully Patrick home. Nothing happens and he'll be back. But these court, where y'all thought it was going to go? happens and he'll be back. But these court where y'all thought it was going to go. Everybody doesn't get a situation where they get like an Aaron Rodgers and they get an opportunity to sit for three years.

Patrick Mahomes had to sit for a year. Yeah, but everybody everybody isn't getting those kind of ideal situations. Oh Joe because everybody coming in and I'm sure Aaron probably wanted to start. But you know, everybody covered it. Oh, man, I. Hell, no. The way he the way the way guys are wired, it didn't matter that where you went to.

Here you like, hey, I can play. I need to get on the field. But I don't know. Look, I understand what agents are telling kids, but Ocho, if I got an opportunity, I'm gonna make $30 million guaranteed. I ain't staying in school. I'll holler at you, homie.

What am I, first of all, no matter if I'm gonna end up, what am I going to school to do? College is supposed to teach you how to make money, get a job and make money. And then failing to speeding that process up. Why would I deny that? Why would I slow it down by waiting? And run the risk of getting hurt.

If I get hurt, I'm gonna get hurt on the NFL dime with that 30 million guaranteed. That's what me personally, now everybody gotta make their decision. Sometimes you get a situation like a Peyton and Eli, they're dead, they're middle class, upper middle class. They cool. Well, people that look like me and you and we ain't no upper middle class.

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Oh Joe, before we go to the next segment, I'd like to be on. Oh Joe and I will be on live with what not app tomorrow, Friday, November 1st at 7pm. Pacific time 10 Eastern auctioning off 300 pairs of my sneakers from my personal collection, including these shoes signed up for what not using the link in my description and you'll get $15 off your first order. The link is being dropped in the chat. Let me, I'm finna get me a pair too. I'ma buy me a pair so you can sign. These are some late editions.

Ash taught me in the... What is them? These are the off whites. Hey boy, what side of them is? 13. are the off whites. Hey, what was that? What side of the mills? 13. So these made it. So these are going. They were last minute ads. Ashton many going to go selling those.

Give me the. Yes, take them out. But damn, I don't wear no size 13 though. Off white. I like yeah. Well hopefully. These are the. The.

You probably know you probably recognize this. These are the uh Dfp's You probably know you probably recognize this But I like I like them oh I know what them is them the pat leather none of the pat leather pat leather joints These are the I like that So they made They made they made a later edition uh You ain't wear them? They made a late edition. Hey, why your shoes so clean? You ain't wear them?

I wore those one time. I wore them one time and the blue. You, hey, you wear shoes one time. But I put them in the closet, they stay. Yeah. Hey, that's rich people stuff. Where you shoot one time and never again. I ain't never been able to.

Ooh, ooh, ooh. But that's so pretty. These are late ads also. I wore these one time. Damn. This is a pack. So this is the other. Most people know these, but this is a pack. The other shoe was a pack also.

And that's a that's a mellow shoe. That's mellow shoe right there. Jordan. No, not that one. So it's one of your right hand. Both of them are Jordans, but they just came. This is what they call it. This is a pack.

So two shoes came in one. Let me show you. Okay. I thought wasn't mellow with Jordan. Yeah. OK, I see. I see. I see. I see. Just like the DMP pack, two shoes came in just one box.

I didn't know. And. Hey, that baby blue, that powder blue real nice now. I'm hoping it goes well. I don't really know. Man, I got so much stuff. I ain't gonna lie, Joe. I don't, I have no. Yeah, you don't know, but that's, that's, that's, that's rich. That's rich. That's what people talk. I know exactly how many shoes I got. I got eight pair of shoes.

What if they didn't want- I don't even know what this is. This is Air George black and white. Yeah, them zebras. And I got a, a, a B's. I don't know if you've ever seen these. I've worn these one time. Is it a slant? No, a B's. I don't know if you've ever seen B's. I've worn B's one time. The slats?

No, it just lifts. It should just lift. It's a flap. Oh no. Yeah. Yes. But yeah, I wanna see some more shoes. Here.

Come on, come on, come on, come on, come on. It came with pins. These are the Ronnie Figs. I want those. Ronnie who? Ronnie Figs. Here, just take my thought. Oh yeah, as Buddy do the collabs with Kith.

I know who that is. Yes, yes, yes. So all the pins are in place. I've worn these one time. Okay, okay, okay, okay. They made it. Ooh, boy, you got some shoes, boy. You got some.

If it goes well, I'll add these to the next drop. Oh, that's the Tiffany blue. The Tiffany AF1. Boy, you got money. I'll also add these. What's the, that's yours? Your Jordans. Oh, you got money.

Yeah, I like that. These are the LVs. I've worn these twice. Oh, you got money. Yeah. And all of these. Oh, you said money. Yeah. And all of these. Oh, you said the kind of days. If if if this one goes well, yeah, I'm going to sell them.

I'm going to sell everything. The only thing is, I have these also. You're going to be rich. Oh, oh, Red Octopus. These are I got these from a guy, Rich. I know he always watched the show out of Boston and he and his brother started following me and He was a big shoe guy and you were size 13 and he and I was talking one day They say oh I got some I want to show you so he took a picture of it and he said to me my DM

I said man, let me get those. He said I don't know I want I want to keep these right? I said come on man. I need those. No, he just called me. He called me Sharp. He said, Sharp, I want to keep these. I said, man, I need them. I said, I'll tell you what I do. He a big Patriots fan. I say, if the Patriots go to the Super Bowl,

I give you two tickets to the Super Bowl. He said, OK. Ocho, the Super Bowl hadn't even happened yet, but he said okay. He sent me the shoes All he did was meet me on Twitter right He sent me the shoes So he's like now his what his girl at the time his wife now. She's having a baby He like oh man. I ain't gonna be able to go. I said I tell you what I do

What about if I get you tickets to the AFC championship game now? That's the game in which the flage gate happened the color right so I got him tickets to that game I said man, this man doesn't send me these shoes He don't send me these shoes. I said I got him tickets to that game. I said, man, this man doesn't send me these shoes He doesn't send me these shoes. I said I got to do some as I tell you what since you couldn't go to the Super Bowl And I know that was a big thing if they win the Super Bowl. They're gonna play on a Thursday night game I'll get you tickets to that game. I Got him 50 yard line tickets to that game. And so he said, promise me this, if you ever want to get rid of the red October's, you give me an opportunity. So.

I'm going to give him the first opportunity if he don't want to buy him. I'll put them up in the next in the next thing with the like, like. Well, you got your pockets deep, boy. You got all types of shoes over there. What? I ain't never seen some of them. Some of them. Some of them shoes I only seen on the magazine and on Instagram. Oh, I still got I still got

I got I still got some very, very exclusive stuff. The Mirrors, a lot of a lot of stuff like I've only worn like maybe once or twice. And for me, it's time for somebody else to enjoy it. I'm not, I'm, I'm, I'm at the stage now. Um, I'm kind of like phased out of it, Ocho. And I'm never, I'm never gonna, and Ash is saying that the, uh, the link is open now and so you could order. Hold on. I got, I'm, I'm selling some shoes tomorrow too.

Okay. Uh, Ash said the auction is tomorrow, but there are things that are on the site that you can buy right now. You heard me? Huh? I'm gonna sell some shoes tomorrow too. He he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he.

Yeah, I do have the Soulfly ones, yes. Did he? These right here? Huh? I got these right here. These, these Air Force ones. Huh. I got these right here, these, um, these Air Force ones. Yeah. Uh, uh, Polly leather elephant skin. Made in China. Uh, two of two. Yeah. Ain't too many people got these. I wore these by seven times.

Yeah. You can see the bottom dirty. Yeah. Yeah, I've uh, I trying to, give me that, that's all. Yeah. As you can see, I've worn these shoes one time, Ocho. What's them? Let me see. The platinum Yeezy. Oh, oh, oh, oh. Oh, the thing nice.

The thing nice. Same with these. I've only worn them twice. I mean, once, I wore saying nice. I'm saying nice. Same with these. I've only worn them twice. I mean, once, I wore them once. Like I said, I think for me now, being able to give back to Savannah State would be more to me than keeping the shoes. I mean, I've had them.

I mean, some of the stuff that I'm getting rid of, I've had an extremely, extremely. You see that? No, let me see the right there. Yeah. Is the shoes in there? Yeah. And you put a battery here in the book, man,

this thing woke me up in the middle of the night. I was like, what the hell is this? Because it's a bus and it's like beep, beep. What's that? It's sneakers. In a bus and it's like beep beep. What's that? It's sneakers. In a bus? Oh, the Air Max, them 95. Yeah. No, them ain't, them ones.

You ain't wear them? I'm number one. Hey, you just be buying stuff, man. You be wasting money, man. I had a lot of stuff. I had a lot of stuff. I do. I still got, I probably still got

probably 150, 200 pair. Yeah, see you tripping, man. You just, you the hoarder. You the, you the hoarder. They need to do a show on you collecting shoes for no reason, just to have shoes. No, but I do. But that's what I do. I have 12. I have 12 pair of shoes.

I have 12 pair of shoes. They are 12 months in the year. Yeah. So I always tell myself, my grandma always said, boy, you only need one one pair of shoe a month. And that's how I live. I have 12 pair of shoes, one for each day, one for each month. That's it and I never go over 12. You know what, Ocho, back when like Ash and I were at FS1, I was like you know what Ash, I'm gonna wear a different pair of shoes every day. Every day?

Every day. I told her, I said I could wear a different pair of shoes for at least a year and a half Maybe two years now you can't damn. So we started out I went like Like a month. I Said man later for this cuz I gotta go in the box. I gotta take about the box. I gotta lace them up I'm a man later for this and so that's why I just like you know what and I just wore the same shoe so I said I'm done with this and I was like, I'm what? And I just wore the same shoe. So I said, I'm done with this. And I was like, I'm going to sell. I'm a sale and, um, cool kicks. Like, Hey, you want to sell it? I like, yeah, I will.

I absolutely will. What, what not, what not? Well, I was at cool kicks, right? We're cool kicks headquarters,, but whatnot says like, ask me would I be interested in party ways? I was like, well, how many? Like, well, how many you wanna sell? I said, at least, probably, let's see how many I got.

Man, Ocho, I had a whole room. My closet, they'd already taken over my closet. Then I ended up taking the bed out and putting his shoes stacked up in the room where the bed used to be. Woo! So I said, now I ended up taking the bed out and put it has shoes stacked up in the room where the bed used to be. So I said, no, I'm done. And I still got, I still probably got like 75 pair in Atlanta, like Oregon dug threes, I still got some fives.

I still, I still got like 14. I still got some air. I just, it's just time. It's time. Oh, Joe, it's time. It is. You, you going to feel better about yourself too. You just, it's just time. It's time, Ocho. It's time. Yeah, it is. You're going to feel better about yourself too.

You need to get rid of those. I'm sure the money's probably going to a good cause. You get rid of them, create some space. I want to have a scholarship. I want to have a scholarship fund in my alma mater. I like it. I like that. I like that.

That's what I want. That's what I want. It's the first time that I'm going to do something and people will know about it. Because a lot of times I give money to the various charities and they have they have one simple day. I give them what I don't care. OK, I understand what this charity is. And I'm sure you're going to use your discretion and

distribute the money in a place is supposed to go. I say, but you can never tell that I gave you anything. I say, if you ever tell that I gave you money, I'll never give to this organization again, because I'm not giving it. I'm not giving it for that reason. People don't need to know. I like, I like people who are, you don't do nothing for your community. You don't do nothing.

You don't know what I do. So this is for a worthy cause. And so if it goes well, the next collection, I'm probably gonna sell everything but about, I probably keep like 10 pair. I probably keep 15 pair. But there are shoes that I can wear on the regular, not the Yeezys.

And I got some of the Yeezys, like when he first went to Adidas. Right. The 750 boot, I got a couple of pair of those. I got the black, I got the black, I got some of the Yeezys, like when he first went to Adidas. Right. The 750 boot, I got a couple of pair of those. I got the black, I got the brown. I got like some of the 350s. I got some of the early stuff that he did when he first went to Adidas.

Right. So. I like it. That's where. Hey, boy, y'all rich folks be going crazy with the shoes, boy. Man, I was, man, look. I mean, you know.

I was with Nike, and that definitely helps. But a lot of times, I would give it to my teammates. Burns and Bucket got more ish than I did. Right. My sister, you know, she got a lot of stuff. My sister still wears, she still got a lot of stuff. My sister still wears, she still got her old shoes in the box. I ain't played in 20 years.

Right. But she wore the same shoes, but Burns bucket, a couple of people like that. I got a little stuff, but a lot of my teammates, they would want stuff and I would get it for them. And so that's how it kind of started, Ocho, is that with that. And then I would see stuff, I was like, man, I want, okay, I want this so that's how it kind of started. Oh, Joe is that with that. And then I would see stuff out like, man, I won't.

Okay, I want this, I want this, I want this. And so sometimes I was able to get it. Sometimes I wasn't and I had to pay, but it's time to part with it now. It really is. And so hopefully, I mean, I don't, like I said, I don't know. I mean, Ash was telling me some of the prices like one.

Yeah, one of them is already priced at 12K. 12K what? 12,000. American dollars? American. Shit. Well, y'all got me. Boy, see, boy don't play that.

12,000. Nothing. Well, I don't need you to spend 12,000. Yeah, everything in the buy now is in the 200s. The big stuff is coming tomorrow, like the camos and the stuff like that. And you know, I got the chunky dunks, and I got a lot of dunks.

Is the strawberry dunks in that? I got strawberry dunks, that's included. So, strange love, strange love, strange love. That's what they call, ashtamnit. Yeah, too bad, oh, did we include that size eight? I got a size eight LV. Yeah, no, you can't be, yes, they're red. Yeah, I show, yeah.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yes, they're a real. Yeah. Yeah Yeah, yeah That's an expensive hobby that I choose not not not to partake in I stick to my I think that my simple shoes But I tell you what Collecting shoes is cheaper than watches. That's for damn sure Yeah, yeah, that's what damn sure that's a very expensive hobby. I had two expensive hobbies. One is more expensive than the other, for sure. Yeah, you know, I started dibbling, dabbling

in some watches, you know. You know, the money coming in look different these days. But I got, like I said, uh, like I said, I, I, I'm, I'm wanting to do something for Savannah state. I wanted to, uh, establish a, uh, a scholarship fund, um, and give back for an institution that did so much for me. Um, the doctors are my favorite, um, George McLemore, who was my remedial reading teacher, um, Joe and green, who was my Marie, uh, my remedial English

teacher, cause I started Savannah state and all developmental studies, all remedial classes and those Scott Simpson was my remedial math teacher. He got me out of there. And then I got with Haynes Wal teacher. He got me out of there. And then I got with Haynes Walton. I got with Norman Elmore. I got with man. Clara Bayne, Gaye Hewitt, Scott Smith.

I mean, Stephen Smith. And my life, my life changed. My life changed. They opened my eyes and I couldn't have done, I couldn't, I couldn't, I wouldn't be the person that I am without that experience. I met a guy that's like my brother Bucket at Savannah State. All of my kids, all of my kids, moms went to Savannah State. So man. It's going to be it's going to be a great

it's going to be a great honor for me to go and present that check to the president. That's going to be a proud moment for me, Ocho. Oh, yeah, I know. I know it is. But that's not the end of it now. So now that's a really it's going to be a proud moment for me, Ocho. Oh yeah, I know it is. But that's not the end of it now. So now that's a really, it's going to be a regular occurrence. So every year I'm going to donate to that fund. Right. And obviously, you know, hopefully I got at least 20 more times around the state, 20 more

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