Club Shay Shay - Nightcap Hour 1: Joe Burrow keeps DROPPING HINTS of UNHAPPINESS + Tua BENCHED for Quinn Ewers in Miami + Ocho got his GIRL TAKEN by a HAITIAN + Cam Ward WANTS CONTROL

Episode Date: December 18, 2025

Shannon Sharpe, Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson and Iso Joe Johnson react to Joe Burrow gets cryptic while discussing his future with the Bengals, the Miami Dolphins are benching Tua for Quinn Ew...ers, and Cam Ward wants a role finding the next head coach in Tennessee and much more! Subscribe to Nightcap presented by PrizePicks so you don’t miss out on any new drops! Download the PrizePicks app today and use code SHANNON to get $50 in lineups after you play your first $5 lineup! Visit https://prizepicks.onelink.me/LME0/NI... 00:00 - Introduction05:22 - Joe Burrow future with Bengals28:52 - Dolphins bench Tua55:15 - Cam Ward wants role in finding next head coach (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:07:57 Is there any world? in your mind where you're not the quarterback of the Bengals next year? I couldn't, I can't see that, no? Did you ever both have thought about the possibility of not being the quarterback here during your career? You think about a lot of things? When you look at quarterbacks over the course of their time, great ones, Hayden, Brady, and you kind of have to understand that you never know what this legal bringing. What did you learn from watching how their career is unfolded?
Starting point is 00:08:27 Yeah, a lot of crazy things happen every year. Michael Parsons got traded right before the season, I think, this year. That is something I hadn't seen in a long time in the NFL, so crazy things can happen. Oh, Joe. Yeah, talk to me. I want you to talk to us. What was what's happening, baby? Tell me what you want to know.
Starting point is 00:09:01 I mean, what do you make a Joe's comment? I mean, I mean, it's, I'm not sure. Obviously, quarterbacks normally don't answer questions like that. Normally, normally they don't. Most quarterbacks are very PC. They dance around the questions that are asked, like politicians, like presidents, those that are trained to be able to answer questions, but not really answer him directly.
Starting point is 00:09:28 Most quarterbacks are very savvy at that, but he's trying to get a message across with some of the things that he's saying. He did it last week and he did it again today. And obviously he's doing it for a reason and he's standing on business, whatever it is. Whatever message he's trying to get across is getting across to the right people.
Starting point is 00:09:45 Yeah, because normally... It's getting across to the right people. You said something very interesting. You said normally their guys are very PC. I've never heard Peyton, from MacDab in the prime of his career, talking about strange things have happened and the possibility of him playing elsewhere.
Starting point is 00:09:58 I never heard Tom say that. Me personally, Ocho, maybe you have because you played after me. Maybe these new age quarterbacks have said that, but I've never heard a quarterback. Go ahead. Can I say something real quick, hey, Joe? What's up?
Starting point is 00:10:11 There's been no other quarterback in a position as great, as good as Joe Burrow is, that would come out and say anything like that. None of them would say that because they would have no reason to. It would have no reason to. So there's a reason why you've never heard a quarterback said whether it was your error, the error before us or during our era because quarterbacks that are that good,
Starting point is 00:10:32 that are franchise altering, changing quarterbacks never feel like Joe feels right now. Now, we'll never know exactly what it is. Is he frustrated because of the injuries? Is he frustrated because the onus in us having to win is all on his shoulder because our defense isn't that good? We really don't know what it is. But this is the second time, Joe, you know, this is the second time. says something in riddle format that you have to guess what he really means.
Starting point is 00:10:59 I think the thing is, he said, hell, yeah, it might be the injuries, but hell, I keep getting hurt because of this sorry-ass offensive line. And even when I score 40 points, we still lose because our defense gives up 41. Now, I think the thing is, look, we have to go back to Peyton. I remember when they asked Jim Moore, talking about playoffs, playoffs, we couldn't throw, you know, we throwing interceptions and Peyton got very upset with that. everybody knew you criticized than that guy, yeah, it's about to be over.
Starting point is 00:11:27 Yeah, you're not going to be the coach next year, Coach Moore. And so normally, like I said, I mean, you say things, certain things. But like you said, Ocho, we haven't seen. Look, there have been quarterbacks that have had that had a disliking but never voiced that. Troy, you know, him and Jimmy had a little thing tip at the beginning.
Starting point is 00:11:46 But because Jimmy bench ended up, well, Troy got hurt and they started Burline and they drafted Steve Walsh. that supplemental in the first round, when you just took a quarterback number one overall, Joe, and then you turn around and draft another quarterback in a supplemental draft. Troy didn't take kindly to that, but to hear Joe speak basically for the second time in a week and, you know, the melancholiness, the somberness in his tone. He's very calculated.
Starting point is 00:12:15 You can tell because a lot of times you don't see a lot of quarterback fall. Joe will actually pause and think before he actually said something. So he wants to make sure that, look, I'm going to be very calculated with what I say. You know, he's looking up and he thinks about it. You know, he's very slow. He's very deliberate. Nothing is haphazard. Nothing is rushed.
Starting point is 00:12:33 But he just wants you to know that, look, I'm not just saying something willy-nilly. I'm not just saying something arbitrarily. I've really, really thought. I've been thinking a lot about this. And normally guys start thinking about this old show later in their career. They're not thinking about this last year than their career. Look, not this early. What year, Joe, what, Joe, what, six, seven, six, seven?
Starting point is 00:12:55 Six, seven, some of that? Hey, but, hey, but due to the luck, due to the luck that he's had in the injuries, man, you know, sometimes, hey, okay, Ocho, it might not be bad for Joe to get old, uh, new star somewhere. Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, come on. Hey, look, look, look what y'all going. Look what y'all are facing every year, Ocho. Hey, Joe, come on, look, every year we sit on here and listen to you to hollip and hooping hollip at these bang them. You know what I'm talking about? And then it ends up in emotional,
Starting point is 00:13:26 lasting other games, and now you've got to keep riding with them. You know what I mean? I don't like to see you like that, bro. I'm just keeping it 100. Listen, I feel you, Joe, I don't think in the history of the game. In the history of the game, there had never been a quarterback in his prime like this,
Starting point is 00:13:43 that is this good as good as Joe Burrow is, outside of the situation with Deshawn Watson that became available in his prime like this. That is the only quarterback. Am I correct on? Yes. Yeah. And the prime with no, I mean, and the thing you have,
Starting point is 00:14:00 Deshaun didn't have this injury history. You know what I'm saying? He tore his in college, but he didn't have, he didn't have this history like Joe's have. Right. But as you mentioned, normally quarterbacks become available
Starting point is 00:14:10 later in their career. Peyton Manning was coming off of substantial injury. Brett Farb was here with Brett Farb. Brett Farb had to be in your, mere like 14 to 15. Aaron Rogers, same thing. He had to be available, what, year 17, 18. Quarterbacks of this caliber don't come available.
Starting point is 00:14:29 They damn sure not coming available in their prime. And so to see a guy year six, yeah, he has some injury history. But what we, and even with that injury history, there are probably 25 other teams that will take Joe Burrow over their current situation. Given his, even given his injury history because you know what he's more than capable of providing with that being said oh joe i just like i said i like a lot of times when you get injured and you've never been injured joe uh oh joe and i don't know if you've ever been injured to the extent uh joe you miss substantial amount of time but you become very reflective
Starting point is 00:15:04 yeah you start to think man is this is is this is this what my career is going to look like am i going to be because he's been injured three of the six years he's been in league oh joe he's missed substantial time i'm not talking about a game and then remember Remember, what was it, last year I think he came, he came in, he had that calf injury and he came in injured. But now he's missed, you know, he tore his ACL and then he had a risk, tore ligament in his wrist, and then he missed what, 10 weeks this year would have told.
Starting point is 00:15:33 And so you start getting, you start becoming very reflective and you're like, damn, is this my fate? Is this what I'm gonna have to go through? Do I need, Ocho, it gives you an opportunity to think, man, if I was somewhere else and had a better offensive line, and they did a better job, of putting pieces around me could I be better could I I mean you you start hey oh yeah you and I was having a conversation I said oh cho you know sometime when you and your girl
Starting point is 00:15:58 y'all like you need some time to think and you get that time apart and then she start thinking now oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh uh uh cassine what ain't that bad you know he nice you know he might you know he might do this you start thinking yeah man man what the bad what you bulljiving Sophia Sophia was nice now I see you know I see how she did and so now all these things start going through your head they're going through her head that's what's happening with Joe all these scenarios start to play out of his head because why he got time yeah and the funny thing about it is what time what time when you understand you you you want to test the waters and you think you think the grass is green on the other side you know sometimes that
Starting point is 00:16:46 that same scenario in that time you had to think, it had you out there in the ocean swimming by your goddamn self. Well, unless he goes to the jets, but there ain't no situation worse than Cincinnati. I promise you that. Yeah. Yeah, I understand what you're saying.
Starting point is 00:17:01 I don't think Joe understands how blessed he is from an offensive perspective. I understand we talk about the officer line, the officer line being bad, but with those receivers he has at his disposal, having Jamar Chase, who is arguably the best receiver in the NFL having T. Higgins, who is a good solid 1A as a receiver, and to leave that organization despite what may be going on.
Starting point is 00:17:29 And what makes me nervous, Joe and Unk, is hearing Joe talk the way he's talking. And the small words that I shared with him at the Ravens game before the game and pregame, I walked up to him and I asked him, are you okay? and he said he was good and I said don't scare me like that again and he looked at me with a smile and he winked
Starting point is 00:17:51 and he went to working out then he comes out the day with what he said today and it puts me in a situation and remembering when Carson Palmer was so fed up to the point where he said you know what
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Starting point is 00:22:30 I'm not coming back. And Joe, he really, quarterbacks make that kind of money. You know, I'm not coming back. And he literally didn't come back. Oh, Cho, let me ask you this. How much say do you think Joe Burrell has as far as personnel or as far as decisions being made in that organization? I think a lot of say. I don't think he has as much say. I think he'd have much say. Let me ask you a question.
Starting point is 00:22:53 How much say did Tom Brady have? With all those Super Bowl wins, with all those playoffs, how much say did he had in New England? Now, just suppose that how much did he say did he had when he went to Tampa? Well, he got gronk there. What about AB? He got AB there too. Hold on. Hey, when it was time for chasing T to get paid,
Starting point is 00:23:17 who stood on that table for him right away? It was me and you could have got T, me and you could have got Chase paid. The thing is when you look at Higgins, when you look at Higgins contract, Ocho, and this is not a disrespect to his agent, that's a horrible contract. That's basically a one-year contract.
Starting point is 00:23:31 That's a one-year contract. That ain't nothing. That's one year. They can get out from one of this contract, a year with nothing with no substantial penalty the whole point of getting money up front also is to get the security and that buys you time so they just can't arbitrarily really nearly just say okay yeah we good it didn't work out there I believe there's a greater chance that T. Higgins hits the market again than he comes back that's just me when you look at
Starting point is 00:23:58 look at his contract and you tell me I guarantee you won't find one other agent other than his own that says this is a good contract right but I just think sometimes guys have Peyton had a lot of say when he went to Denver a lot of say and that's what happened when and Joe Burrow is that kind of guy he would have a lot of say in personnel moves when he got there yeah I tell you I tell you one thing and I don't think he had that much say with personnel moves when he first got there you got to get your feet wet he's now a proven yes he's a player that's gotten the Cincinnati Bengals who the goddamn Super Bowl since
Starting point is 00:24:38 1988. They might not have won the game, but as a proven player, as a quarterback, as a franchise quarterback at that, I'm sure he has some say. Now, maybe not on the defense end, because that's not his repertoire. That's not his area expertise. But I could tell you where to say it would be
Starting point is 00:24:55 it would be on that offensive motherfucking line. It would be at the receiver position. Do you ready to have his feet wet? Outside that, listen, outside of that, nothing else should be a worry for the quarterback. But you can't pay everybody, Ocho. Who are you telling? Hey, Joe, you ain't got to tell me.
Starting point is 00:25:11 I understand how the salary cap work. I also understand the fact that you can't pay everybody. They're going to be some weak links. Yeah. At certain places, especially when you pay, hey, you can't keep it. And once they become good, Ocho, you can't keep them all. Yeah. Hey, listen, Joe, I'm Joe and everybody can't be Howie Rosen.
Starting point is 00:25:32 Everybody can't be Jeffrey Lurie. Yeah. Like, they are phenomenal. and I don't know if it's goddamn luck at drafting the right players paying him at the right time. Paying up early. That's what New England did so well, Ocho.
Starting point is 00:25:48 Think about, they would always pay you so early. You're like, look out all this money. And then one year later, you're like, boy, that's a terrible contract. But I got your ass on the contract for another four years, so deal with it. Yeah. Look at Kansas City. They had to let La Jarius need go, Ocho.
Starting point is 00:26:04 They couldn't pay him. They had to let Tyree go, Ocho. They couldn't pay a bit. The other line, I think it was gay with the middle linebacker. They had to let him go. You can't keep everybody. You're going to lose some people. And so you have to, and that's where you have to draft and not your fourth rounders.
Starting point is 00:26:20 Your team has really made like the third through the sixth round. Can I get some bargain guys? Some guys that's not going to cost me a whole lot of money, but they're going to be able to fill in and play. And that's what, that's what Canada City did early on. Those guys were able to play. But you start having injuries, and the injuries just piled up and piled up. And I think the thing is,
Starting point is 00:26:45 when you're winning, Ocho, it masks a lot of things because a lot of times be like, well, we won the Super Bowl. Why do we need to change anything? It wasn't until this season, when it totally, when the, look, the car, hey, ha, ha, ha, ha,
Starting point is 00:27:01 now after 10 minutes of that it finally crank, you ain't gonna do nothing, Ocho, when they're crom. When they crunk, it's still good. It's not till it put you down your ass downside the road. You say, you got, you know what? It wasn't until the wheels completely fell off the chief this year that I think Brett Beach and Andy Reed realized we've got to retool this thing.
Starting point is 00:27:22 We've squeezed all we could out of this roster the way it's concurrently constructed. And you look at the dollar figure that they got. I saw something today, and I don't know what's true or not, Ocho. 80% of their cap is tied up in the eight players. Hey, it's a 53-man roster, Ocho. Yeah. Yeah. Damn.
Starting point is 00:27:44 I don't know why. But Joe, Joe make me nervous. You should be nervous. Every other team, I tell you what, every other team, ear is perked up. Hey, you know how your dog can be sleeping and all of a sudden you make a noise. You see his ear start twitching.
Starting point is 00:27:59 Yeah, yeah. Hey, wait a minute, now. Hold on, hold on, hold on. Hold on, hold on now. Hold on. This is one thing about it. Old man, Mr. Brown, you could be as mad as you want to. What you're not going to do is you're not going to work and fiddle your way up out of there.
Starting point is 00:28:13 You're not going to talk your way up out of there. You're not going to bully. No, you definitely not going to bully him. That ain't going to happen. Hold on, you just told him what did Carson do? Oh, yeah. If Joe going to sit out and not come back, then that's what he's going to have to do because you ain't going to bully that man upstairs.
Starting point is 00:28:30 Not that one. Not, hey, hey, Joe, old school? Oh, he's a old school. He's a old school. He's not Joe. Old school, man, nah. Hey, man. Listen, don't get on this bad side.
Starting point is 00:28:41 You keep, you keep doing the goddamn interview saying all this, all this craziness. Now, you're going to take that to the goddamn insult. Now, understand you frustrated about your injuries. I understand the fact that, you know, we're not winning right now. Understand the fact that our defense is bad. But we're paying you good dollar, top dollar. 50-something a year, Joe. Five, yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:01 Yeah, 55 a year, Joe. and you stay you you right here with these goddamn riddles and all that yeah i'll show yeah i can show you better than i can tell you all right but hey look if if if if they have to get off joe if they do get off joe man it ain't like oh joe maybe it's time for joe to start fresh somewhere new you know maybe he needs fresh air you know what you know what i'm trying to hear that joe hey listen because he's got too much emotion involved up. That's why he paid
Starting point is 00:29:34 straight. You know what I'm saying? You got to take your emotions out, bro, so you can think clearly. And he's going to be out right. I'll give you a prime example. Look at the lions. They, all them guys, they drafted. They drafted Punezul. Jamir Gibbs.
Starting point is 00:29:48 They got Montgomery Infragency. They drafted a, uh, what's the burn of the speed guy, Ocho? The receiver. Jameson William. James and James. They drafted him. Think about it.
Starting point is 00:30:00 They traded Hawkinson. who was a Pro Bowl player, I think it was a second team on pro, and they drafted La Porta. Now, they're going to have to make some decisions here with that defense. Now, they got Robinson. What you're going to do with Arnold?
Starting point is 00:30:16 What are you going to do with Jack Campbell? Kirby Joseph. I think they paid Kirby. Yeah, I think he paid Kirby already. Okay, okay, okay. So they're going to be some other Muhammad. What are you going to do with Muhammad? Because you just played Hutchinson.
Starting point is 00:30:28 Now, hey, oh Joe, this is 2008, with that interest. only, Joe, you remember them interests only? Everybody was getting them 50,000, 20,000 square foot house because all you had to pay with $20,000 a month, but that balloon paper was going to come doing about three years. I sure hope you got four million, five million sitting by somewhere. Now, if you know, you have to get your ass up out of here called the whole market and the crash because everybody had interest only loans.
Starting point is 00:30:52 That big balloon payment came due and ain't nobody have no money. A wah-wop, the housing crash. So Detroit's going to, hey, it's going to happen. It's going to happen. because they're going for it. Jared Goff, big, big money. Armand Rock, big, big money. Jameson William, big, big money.
Starting point is 00:31:08 Penae Soot, big money. Hutchinson, big, big money. Joseph, big, big money. At some point in time, Ocho, you can't pay everybody big money. Nah, no. I think they paid McNeil. I think McNeil got paid.
Starting point is 00:31:22 Yeah. The only good thing about I can think of, is every year that goddamn cat go up, um, every year that cat go up and with some of those great players that are really, really great. They can always come back. Restructure and turn the signing bonus, huh?
Starting point is 00:31:34 We're going to take, we're going to take some of this money on the back end, and we're going to put it on the front end and a huge sign of bonus so we can keep this goddamn training road. And you can bring a shoe bowl on show, you can break it up. Remember the Rams? Remember what they did? Yeah. Think about all the money they spent.
Starting point is 00:31:48 They say, okay, we got what we got out of it. We got to tear it down. Yeah, they tear it down and start a game. Vaughn, I'm sorry. We got Lenny Floyd. I'm sorry. Yeah. And look at them again.
Starting point is 00:32:00 Look at it. Look at it. Look at it. Look where they're at on the verge of being able to do it again. You draft Kyron Williams. You draft Pooka Nakua. You draft verse. You draft young.
Starting point is 00:32:10 You draft. Hey, you get landmine. You let Ernest Jones the fourth go. You, hey, they let Jalen Ramsey go. They find Durant. You see how they did it, though, Joe? They get, they get Devonte Adams, who is a number one, but you get him at a basement price of 20 million, not the 35, 40 million that somebody of his
Starting point is 00:32:28 caliber is worthy of getting. That's what you have. have to do. Look at the offensive linemen. They let go, drafted, got better. Parkinson, you see how they did it? Now, if you won a Super Bowl, Ocho, you're like, hey, we got what we're supposed to get out of this. We went for it. We did it. Okay. There they go. Yeah. Yeah, this little talk got me getting kind of a little upset now. Yeah, yeah. I'm getting a little angry now, you know. Yeah, yeah. Pipe down a little bit turbo. It's all right. Yeah, yeah, we're good, we good.
Starting point is 00:33:02 Listen, I'm going to talk to Joe. I'm going to put him to side now. I'm going to put him aside now. I don't let's over with you. You waste your time. And I ain't over it. Because listen, I'm going to see, I'm going to see Joe. I'm going to see Joe Saturday.
Starting point is 00:33:12 I'm going to see Joe, the Bengals playing the Dolphins. So they get in Saturday. He's going to the sardine jack macro bowl. They all stink. Hey, listen, I'm really not worried about this season. I'm not worried about the season. This season is already is in the can. It is what it is.
Starting point is 00:33:30 Let's finish the season off strong, you know. Let's have some good high points. Let's have some individual goals that individuals want to attain. You know, the next four weeks outside that I just need to sit down with Joe. I don't even need a long conversation. I need 10 minutes. I need to know where your mind is that. I need you to stay by the mailbox.
Starting point is 00:33:52 You got two of these coming real soon. Hey, my man, my man. You can see it right there. Hey, uh, uh, come in close on this right here. I got some room for all that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You got two of these coming in the mail. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:06 Just to be a mallet. Hey, that's, hey, that look real good right there, boy. What, what are you talking to? Hey, Joe, that's, that's going. Yeah, that real, go. Got a headphone roll? Yeah, yeah, you got yours, don't you? Yeah, so Joe just stay close by your mailbox.
Starting point is 00:34:20 They're going to be coming shortly. I got you. Say less. Say less. Hey, hey, what, what in mind going to hit? Oh, you're going to come for Christmas I was going to be a Christmas gift for you Okay, okay, okay Hey, let me tell you something
Starting point is 00:34:34 It ain't nothing for me to put that ski mask on again And come back in your house Why is that necessary, Ocho? I mean, it's not necessary I mean, it's not necessary You got all my gifts, you got my jerseys I mean, what are we doing? Would you like to swap?
Starting point is 00:34:47 You tell me, nah, you can keep those jerseys. You keep old beach jerse. I don't care about that. Hey, you ain't go to Beach hat. Why you even got my jerse in the first place? What's your bead? I knew somebody with the beach eye. Good friend of mine.
Starting point is 00:35:00 He was number two. You're talking about Samari. Samari came to Baltimore after I was gold. I played against Samari when he was in Tennessee. Yeah. But Joe, yes. Those should be arriving shortly. The dolphins, oh, Joe, the dolphins, the guppies,
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Starting point is 00:39:18 Right. And we're running into the end zone. Touchdown. It's never too late to turn your fantasy season around. Subscribe to the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. What was your reaction at that point? Disappointed. I mean, I'm not happy about it, but, you know, something out of my control. Why do you think this has happened? I would say the biggest thing, and it's being honest. myself as well had been my performance. I haven't been performing up to the level and the
Starting point is 00:39:52 capabilities that I have in best. Hey, hey, man, I'm mad for tour myself. I'm mad for tour. You know, we've, we've heard Rumblin's about Tours performance, his injury history, the concussions for a very long time, for a very long time. But Joe and Unk, he hasn't performed to the level that we need him to perform at to be able to compete in the air. AFC East, let alone compete in general. My young bull, man, he's only six in 40, 40 degree of less weather. Well, hell, the Dolphers always sucking when it comes to inclement weather. Always.
Starting point is 00:40:31 Yeah, but he just hasn't been good this year, ever since Tyreek Hill went down. When you think about them offensively and what they looked like last year, it was last year, right? No, they missed the play out last year. It was two years ago. Oh, two years ago. Hey, Joe, they was ranked second, third, and goddamn offense in the NFL. fell, Joe.
Starting point is 00:40:48 Yeah. Just two years ago. And obviously, last year, rid of with injuries, concussions. It's set not just him back, it set the dolphins back in general. Now they're going in the direction of having Quinn Error start. Quinn, Quinn, Quen Errors. Uris. Sorry.
Starting point is 00:41:06 But listen, I saw him at Texas. He was okay. Is he going to be such a drastic difference for the dolphins? I don't think so. Is he the answer for the future? I don't think so. I think we're still going to be in the same place we are looking for a quarterback that we've been doing since
Starting point is 00:41:26 God damn, Dan Marino. Joe, it's been going on for a long time, really, Joe. Yeah, man, listen. We've been struggling for a long time. I know, I know, I know, I know, I know. Since 1991. Pipe down. I know, I know.
Starting point is 00:41:38 Come on, nah. I know, pipe down, no, I know. I know. But listen, I'm mad for tour because I know young bull, man, he put the work in, he hard, he prepare. You know, he wants to be good at what he does. and it just ain't worked out for him, Joe. Sometimes it happened like that.
Starting point is 00:41:53 Okay, Ocho, but y'all got to respect him because of the accountability that he came with. Finally. Yeah. That's what it is for me. I'm like, he took accountability tonight. He just got to, he got to get back to the drawing board and get back to work as far as if he want to be a starting quarterback again.
Starting point is 00:42:10 All I know. He hadn't been it, Joe. I think we ought to pitch in and get us a big old aquarium because that's where we're trying to put the guppies. They're done They've been done for quite a while So hey chat How about we pitch in
Starting point is 00:42:23 We get a nice size aquarium So that's where you put guppies I remember when I was in school Hey Joe You was an elementary school kindergarten first grade You had them aquarium And you see the little guppies riding
Starting point is 00:42:33 Swimming around That's where y'all supposed to be Ocho It's all good It's all good But see you make this It's all good I tell you one thing
Starting point is 00:42:44 I'm still going to support I'm still going to be at the game Sunday, Joe. Joe, I'm taking, I'm taking, hey, I'm taking all the kid, Joe. Okay. All 37 of them. We're going to the Dover game.
Starting point is 00:42:54 Matter of fact, we all going to wear two a jerks. Matter of fact, hold on. You can wear whatever you want to. He's going to be on the bench. Hey, as a matter of fact, if you wait a couple of months, you'll be able to get half off or two a jersey. Hey, I know you want this game to mean
Starting point is 00:43:13 for him here than you've won. Hey, Joe, it's still going to mean something to me, Joe. It's still a, hey, it's going to mean something to me, Joe. Hey, in life, sometimes, sometimes in life, you prepare. Sometimes in life, you study for the test, Joe. Yeah. Sometimes you fail the test even though you study.
Starting point is 00:43:32 You put in hours and hours and countless hours and time and you put faith in what you do, your respective craft. And sometimes you hope that you get the results based on the work that you put in. So, Joe, sometimes it just don't turn out. like that. You're right. Sometimes that don't. And that's what happened to my Samoan warrior. My Samoan warrior, he put into work because that's my Uso. You know how to Samoa. Hey, Joe, they don't play with him. They normally don't get hurt either. So are we sure he full-blooded? Hey, hey, hey, come on, come on. Don't do that. Don't do that.
Starting point is 00:44:05 You know, look, the Samoas I play with, them joking, they never hurt. They don't take no ankles. They don't take no wrists. They don't take it. And they go out there, I don't matter how cold it is, They don't care nothing. They ain't got no sleeves on. They'll be out there practice with no sleeve, no, no. Now, I'll talk about the Samoas I play with. Man, man, the big old strong joke, man. See, I don't know what they made of.
Starting point is 00:44:31 I'm like, I don't know how y'all come from warm weather climate and y'all can withstand this cold like y'all damn Eskimos. I don't know how, but I wish you the best. But I'm wearing everything I got in here to practice. It's all good. It's all good. Listen, it's all good. It's all good.
Starting point is 00:44:49 Two are going to bounce back. Oh, yeah. Two is a God-fearing man. He's a man that has faith, you know, in his craft and what he does. Hey, Chad, how much guppies cost? Give me an aquarium. Hey, hey, what the hell is a guppy? A dolphin.
Starting point is 00:45:05 Watch all are guppies. Little small-ass tiny fish, teeny tiny fish. It's starter fish what you put on an aquarium. You also feed a fish what you feed. Big fish, y'all guppies. Guppies? I thought, you're talking about a goldfish? A goldfish is a goldfish.
Starting point is 00:45:22 A guppy is a smaller fish, a starter, or feeder fish. You know what's funny? You've been saying guppy all this time. I thought it was just a made-up name. I didn't know it was actually fish called a guppy. I didn't know that. Hey, hey, this is what I like about this show. Hey, Joe, I've been learning stuff on the fly.
Starting point is 00:45:40 Yeah. I ain't known nothing about no guppy. I know about goldfish. And, you know, there are other fish that you put. put an aquarium other than the goldfish. I mean, listen, I couldn't afford nothing that's what a goldfish. Angel.
Starting point is 00:45:53 Yeah, see, I couldn't afford none but a goldfish. That's it. I mean, you got money, I ain't got that kind of money. But everybody, if you went to kindergarten, you went to head start, you had an aquarium. And they had a little teeny tiny fish in there with gup here. And at the end of the year, they give them to you. They'd like, would you like to take a fish on?
Starting point is 00:46:11 They put them in that little plastic bag. Joe, they put them in that little plastic bag. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. damn fish knowing that Mofo was going to die because you would have nothing to put that fish in. And you damn choke and barely feed yourself or you damn show couldn't feed no fish. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:27 Yeah, we had goldfish. Tarek Hill had his own reaction. Oh, Joe, Joe, let's take a look at the captain. Tyree, you five. Now, you don't hype this man. Remember this man is more accurate my home boy and he's not hyped him up joe oh joe you heard what he said yeah hey tay tari tari hit the man like this old joe hey hey that's that that's that i'm i'm out of here
Starting point is 00:46:59 tarreek tarreek letting it be known he's gone i mean tell you know he's he's going anyway and the funny the funny thing about it is understanding the injury that tyreek had i know because he's smalls because he's compact, he's going to come back strongly than ever. It might not be with the dolphins. Wherever he goes, he's going to be a sought out commodity. As fast as he was, when he does come back, he's still going to be fast than everybody else, even if he's lost a step.
Starting point is 00:47:30 That's how fast he is. So I'm excited for him, wherever his destination may be. The quarterback situation, we're still right back at square one with the quarterback situation. I think we're going to see that. No disrespect to Mr. Euras, but it's tough. It's tough.
Starting point is 00:47:50 It's tough. And I, oh, man, this sucks. For me, as a Dolphin fan, Joe, I've been going through this, Hey, Joe, for a minute, Joe. Because he ain't coming back. He ain't coming back. No, well, we talk about this, Joe. I mean, I was trying to tell Ocho.
Starting point is 00:48:03 He was going to be a trade. He was going to be a trade deadline guy. Tyreek was. I was kind of surprised, kind of leaning, considering how it ended last year that he would not go back into. to the game, I thought that, that was it for him. I knew, and I, Ocho and I talked about, he ain't been to be no captain,
Starting point is 00:48:18 because that's not captain material. You can't lead when, if things are not going well, because here's the thing. Ocho, let's just say he needed 50 yards to get 1,600. Well, let's just say he need 50 yards to get 1,000 yards. You think you're going back in the game? Of course. But because they're losing, no chance of the playoffs. And his teammates are asking, Reed, you good?
Starting point is 00:48:42 you go you're going in matter time and then it but it started last year ohcho remember that showed up for the game and he got into the run in with the police and all this stuff yeah yeah there was just it was starting to be it was start he was starting to be more than he's worth production and tolerance his tolerance his production slip so tolerance has got to come down and it wasn't there so i thought he was going to get i thought i was going i was very surprised that they brought him back but i was if he hadn't got hurt ohcho you and i both agree that he was going to get traded yeah he's not coming back he's not so now I mean how healthy can it be because it's more he he damaged a lot of ligaments in that knee
Starting point is 00:49:26 he's gonna be right what did you get A C LCL he told something dislocated his kneecap Fibula I mean he did a he did a lot of damage it wasn't no clean with Ocho where you just get you know your ACL maybe your MCL or something like that he got he got some major stuff going on. Hey, he's gonna be back, he gonna be back, right? Don't worry about it. You gonna come here, he comes back strong. I hope so, because he had, hey,
Starting point is 00:49:50 I think he has like 819 catches, over 11,000 yards. He has like 80 plus touchdowns. Look, all decade of the 2010s, he's phenomenal. He was phenomenal. And I hope he can get back, Ocho, because even at 30, 30, 31,
Starting point is 00:50:11 I think Tyreeks 31, 3031, like you said, with that speed, okay, so now he's not four, two. Now he's four, three, eight. Okay, that's still pretty good. Yeah. Still fast. He's still pretty good. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:27 So they say it was dislocated, dislocation. They said multiple ligaments, but they listed the ACL. So ain't but a few in there. You got ACL or LCL and an MCL. PCL. So they say multiple. So we know the ACL, so he tore one or multiple of the other three. But Rick, you ain't have to hit my man like that. I mean, Rick said he out of there, basically said, Tyreek out of there, excuse me, two is out of there also. But see, you make a move like this, Joe, when you're moving on. When the Broncos got Russ out of there, what did they do?
Starting point is 00:51:07 Yeah. They missed him the last three, four weeks of the season. And they were in prime. position to go to the playoffs you see oh cho that's what they do when they get ready to move on they go ahead sit you down they did Denver was the same thing with Jake plumber they was going to move on yeah guess what they have right prime prime playoff contention they up j cutler started yeah then they moved on went on without uh uh uh Jake plumber so this is this is the start this is the start of it uh we knew that this was happening you see them started moving on when they trade ram um I'm not going, you see that, Jalen Phillips, he's in, he's at the Eagles. Would I be surprised they moved on from Chubb?
Starting point is 00:51:47 I would not. We know Rieck's going to be. Hold on, they, they let Matthew Judon go today. And let you don't go today. So they retooling this thing. They went, oh, Joe, they went for it. Yeah. They went for it.
Starting point is 00:52:00 They drafted, you know, they go, they get Tyreek and they trade for Ram. They get, they trade for Bradley Chubb. They went for it. It just didn't work out for it. And that's okay, you're going for it. I'd rather team go for it, and it doesn't work out as a team to just sit idly by, like, oh, well, we cool, blah, blah, blah. Nah, hell no.
Starting point is 00:52:21 Yeah. If I'm a fan, I'm going to lose my mind. We pay it off. Because guess what? As you lose more, ticket prices go up. Now, make it make sense, Ocho. I'm going to be disappointed if we win the Super Bowl, and all of a sudden, the ticket prices go up $10, $15, $20.
Starting point is 00:52:36 So you mean to tell me, we ain't got no chance to get into the playoffs and the ticket prices are still going up, concession prices are still going up, parking is still going up, buying all this paraphernalia, it's still going up, and y'all ain't even trying to, oh, hell no.
Starting point is 00:52:52 Yeah. Hey, that sucks, man. You know, Joe, it hurt, Joe. It hurt, and I'm not going to get emotional. I'm not going to cry. Just the fact that I have two teams, two teams that I love dearly. Obviously, the dog is me being from Miami,
Starting point is 00:53:08 from the roots. You know, I'm from Liberty, I'm out of day kind of, Joe. You had a little stint with the Dolphus, didn't you? Yeah, you said the right word, little. A little stint, yeah. Joe, and just a Bengal fan, dolphin fan, and that's all I know, man.
Starting point is 00:53:24 That's all I ever know. Patriot, he played for the Patriots, Joe. I don't know why he don't want to take the Patriots. They win in. Yeah, I ain't do nothing. Well, that don't mean nothing, though, Joe. You ain't do nothing in Miami either, but you claim them.
Starting point is 00:53:38 Yeah, but. Yeah, because that's home, that's home, that always be home, you know. Hey, I got, I got, I got, I got, they, I got a check. I got, I got, my check and say Miami Dolphins. What did you, how many, how many, how many checks you get from New England? I ain't, I ain't ever touched them. I'm not sure. I ain't even look at that yet.
Starting point is 00:53:56 Yeah. So. Damn, Joe. It hurt, Joe. It hurt, it hurt. No, it don't hurt me. I don't get. Hey, you know what it feel like, Uncle and Joe, you know what I feel like.
Starting point is 00:54:05 I ain't, I ain't, I ain't going to lie to you, Joe. So the feeling I got right now, man, it's more disappointment. I'm not mad. I'm disappointed because I should have known better. You hear me? I got to stop. I got to stop thinking and thinking with my heart, Joe. They got to start thinking with my mind.
Starting point is 00:54:20 You know what I'm talking about? Yeah. So it was a young lady. Hey, I don't let me tell you a little story. Tell her, tell her. I'm listening. Yeah, I ain't, hey, Joe, I ain't really no story type dude. You hear me.
Starting point is 00:54:28 Oh, yeah, go ahead. But, you know, I'm going to share a little story, sophomore. I was sophomore in high school, Miami-B senior high, you know. There was a young lady, you know, I was dating, you know, and she was one that I wasn't supposed to get serious about. I needed to understand the landscape and which she come from. I needed to understand the way she maneuver. And Joe and I was blind to the fact. I was like Ray Charles, you know, my homeboy, they were telling me like, boy, that ain't that.
Starting point is 00:54:55 That's just, that's play, play. You hear me? Yeah. And I chose the, boom, I tried to, I could change her. That was my mentality as a youngster, you know. I wasn't a seasoned veteran like I am now, you hear me? I mean. So, hey, I took up under my wing, you know, I'm, listen, I'm from the pilot this thing
Starting point is 00:55:13 and you, you know, you just ride on the side of me as my co-pilot. Yeah. Hey, Joe, boy, it took about two weeks, Joe. Man, my home boy hit me, came and got me at lunch. Hey, Ocho, boy, I walk out here to the parking lot with me. But what's up? Why, you, everything good? is he, I want to show something.
Starting point is 00:55:37 Man, the whole basketball player had my girl in the back of the house. Had a-a- what? Man, say it. You should have knew something. You ain't had no car while you were in the parking lot. So you should have knew something. Well, he's all up on the undercarriage, huh.
Starting point is 00:55:51 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Respect, you know, when I, when I look, I ain't even had to go close, like a head was up against the review window. I'm like, well, God, I mean, damn. yeah yeah hey that was that was now you see how you see y'all reaction how you think i felt so that that's how i felt like just seeing seeing it's a constant memory of that exact moment every time i see the bangles yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah i don't take because the windows was up it was all foggy i don't know how you yeah yeah yeah oh hey joe he all in the window
Starting point is 00:56:31 like this here how you do that way doing me like that. Hey, you remember Hitch? Hey, you remember Hitch? When Hitch caught his girl and she rolled the window down? He's like, no, no, no, bro. Yeah, I ain't go that close. I ain't need to go that close. Once I saw a head, keep hitting the rearview mirror. I know what time ago. Oh, Joe, I'm far as a savage, though, didn't it?
Starting point is 00:56:53 Oh, Joe, it turned you into a savage, didn't? After that, he turned into a savage. Hey, Joe, ever since that moment, I was a savage, Joe. Listen, I could be honest with you, Joe. I started moving different, Joe. I read a couple of books I watched a couple of movies I understood so I
Starting point is 00:57:09 In all situations Understanding that this can happen again So I was able to compartmentalizing It's in the back of my mind It can happen Yeah I ego no ego No pride
Starting point is 00:57:21 That's called being scarred man Come on now Yeah Hey them scars Bill Carrier Scars make me the man I am in the day I'm so sorry I'm taking another swig for you
Starting point is 00:57:31 I appreciate that, but I would just, I had to share that story so people can get a better understanding on high it feels to see that basketball player, where was he from? Would he from Alabama? Now, look, look, look, look, little, lo, lo, a little, a Haitian dude, a little Haitian dude from a little hazy dude. You know, yeah, he would get a little money, too. You know, you got dudes in high school getting a little money. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:56 Look like you were getting a little honey, too. Come on. Hey, so I got a question. Did she end up seeing you, see her? Now, after that, no, you know, I ain't, I ain't, I'm at least, I see in the hallway, man, I just hit it with, I hit it with the deuses at that. Yeah, I act like you on. You got to act like you on.
Starting point is 00:58:12 I can't, because now you ain't, you ain't for, you ain't for an embarrassed me like that. Oh, man. No, you got, you know, sock by se hitting you down in the car, man. Come on, man, don't try me like that. I mean, what, you want to take her to a hotel? No, I'm, I'm just saying, I mean, listen, I, hey, that's why you understand.
Starting point is 00:58:30 it is a difference Hey Joe that's that's a good thing in life So fellas this is a lesson You have to understand What's for fun and what's not Right You understand what's see now Now that I'm a seasoned veteran
Starting point is 00:58:45 I understand what's for fun And you can take serious Yeah I mean That's neither here nor there man I'm sorry Ocho Yeah yeah I mean It's happened to the best
Starting point is 00:58:58 It's happened to the best us We don't all get the chance to witness it, but we know for certain that has happened. Oh, yeah, absolutely. I mean, I don't know, if I saw that, I might have, man, I might have lift the car up. Nah, I'm going to do all that. Hey, Joe, I'm about to turn that call over.
Starting point is 00:59:18 Nah, no, I couldn't do that. You know, I was, hey, I was a star player. I was one of the star players back then. Anyway, I wanted to do that. And she did that. And you know who was on the team, hey, hold on, you know, see, wait a minute. And I was a sophomore. You got to think who's on the team.
Starting point is 00:59:31 Terry Cousers. So my role. We had Dwayne Starks. So I was the bad with the baby. So I felt I felt like I felt like I was that boy, you know? Yeah. She was a senior though. Oh, man.
Starting point is 00:59:47 Who would this hate to do? Joy L.A.B. Yeah, it was cool. Hey, it got me. Listen, in life, this happens. The big fish. Sometimes the big fish, the big fish, they get the big fish. They get you got, too, duh.
Starting point is 01:00:04 Yeah, they get it. I mean, hey, you. Hey, just because it's on the top shelf, don't mean it can't be reached. I mean, you know, sometimes, okay, can't, yeah. Yeah, hey, let me tell you something. All right, listen, I haven't been right here. I didn't been right here 57 years, Joe. Everything could do stuff.
Starting point is 01:00:23 Absolutely. Yeah. Everything. I don't care. Hard move, high, act. And it ain't always got to be a guy that's bigger than you. Yeah. Okay, we don't need to go there, we don't need to go.
Starting point is 01:00:36 We don't need to go. We go, we go, we go, we go, we go, we go, we go, we go, we go, we go, we go, we go, we go, we go, we're going, we go, we're going to say it. People think, oh, big bank, take little bank. Man, I see the, I don't see a situation doing it. They ain't got no bank. Huh? And you know why? Hey, the one ain't got no bank got a whole lot of time. Well, don't give, don't make, don't make this no sermon.
Starting point is 01:00:57 Hey, I know. All right All right Hey don't make this No selling Look at it happens Happens Happen to the best
Starting point is 01:01:07 Hey Ojo do that That a Haitian do Man I don't know What you got You ain't got You ain't got
Starting point is 01:01:13 Against Haitian people Do you? Oh nah Well you know My Zos love me down hill You know I'm I'm damn the Zoh
Starting point is 01:01:21 Myself So I say They're about Yeah I can just imagine Joe That man probably had Wrap all that meat riding his arm to pull out of Ocho girl.
Starting point is 01:01:35 Oh, then La Portiaeatian kicked in, what? Hey, hey, Joe, you know we're from the side. You know you get that home fight and you've got to rip and ride your arm. That's in that man, rap and thank right his arm to come up by the Ocho girl. I said, oh no. Oh, Joe, shout out to your home, boy, who came and got you, though. Yeah, you came to got you. dog came and got me. Yeah, he put me up on game.
Starting point is 01:01:59 That's all he could do. That's all they good. Matter of fact, and the funny thing about it, you know, when you're that young, Joe, if he had told me, if he had told me without taking me, without seeing it, yeah. I would have thought he were hating. Hey, Joe, right, right. I would have to hate him. You said that back, right there that man. He had it around him like that go about old Joker.
Starting point is 01:02:21 She was coming back on you. I'm sorry. Oh, man. Hey, y'all, y'all cheer. y'all cheer now y'all cheer see hey hey hey hey you know what hey joe i ain't sharing no more story with y'all can you get that you see hey no no no no hey i like it here hey hey joe i take a moment to be vulnerable and tell him about something from a past and here he he go yeah yeah yeah it's all it's all right but damn hey hey that's Hey, what's the man.
Starting point is 01:03:03 Hey, oh, what did you say? Yeah, no rap. He had no rap. Hey. Hey, Joe. The man, they said the man came up by the thing like this, yeah. I'm sorry, Chad.
Starting point is 01:03:31 I'm sorry, Chad. I'm sorry, Chad. Oh, man. Hey, hey, listen. I can laugh. I'm at my baby. Oh, man. Hey, hey, listen.
Starting point is 01:03:56 Listen, hey, Joe, I could laugh about it now, Joe. I can laugh at, I can laugh at. I know, man, I know. Hey, boy, hey, for a little sophomore at about 15, 16 years old, that's tough. Yeah, yeah, Joe. I was 15, I was 15, Joe. I was a, I was a baby, Joe.
Starting point is 01:04:11 I was a baby. I was sorry, Ocho. Ocho, I'm sorry, man. Now, you can. Oh, man. I think, oh, Joe, I think it is, I think it is, I think it's a, this, a porfier guy.
Starting point is 01:04:26 Man, I've seen you take at least two shots. Yo, I got, better than I got hot in here, man. Hey, that L'A48a kicked in, yes, son. Hey, y'all got, y'all got me in here crying, boy. Hey, that was funny. I know you're going to tell another story, Ocho. I got to be here. Hey.
Starting point is 01:04:55 Hey, Uncle's got some company tonight, huh? No, man, I'm sorry. Hey, hey, are you drinking good at night? Boy, you got company over there? I mean, when you tell them story, man, you know, I was, I'm in it with you. Because I feel like I was there. And I can imagine, you know, I'm hurt, too.
Starting point is 01:05:14 Yeah. Hey, hold on. Hey, hey, hey, did the one with, how he came about him? How he came about him? Hey, I'm sorry with y'all. Man, I'm sweating up. That thing got me sweating up in here. Oh, that's good.
Starting point is 01:05:43 Hey, but that, boy, that was funny. Back to I normally skip your programming. Cal Warren says he wants to have a role in the process of finding the next head. coach. Ward said he spoke in the football, a prison of football operation, Chad Brinker and general manager, Mike Borganza, about wanting to be involved from the first steps of the process to finding Brian Callahan's permanent replacement.
Starting point is 01:06:11 Ward says he wants to help find someone who can build successful foundation for the franchise. I want to meet with all of them. Every coach who's going to get an opportunity to come here, I want to meet them, have a conversation throughout the whole process with them, that's someone that I'm going to be here with for that time. So we got to just continue to be being around, being open,
Starting point is 01:06:32 and no matter what, whoever they, we tried to hire because I know at the end of the day, we do hire going to be the right fit for us, whether it's a defensive person or an offensive person. They're going to make sure every person is in the right place, make sure every person is set up for success. It's too soon. Yeah, man.
Starting point is 01:06:52 We, we, a, uh, a, uh, a Joe, no, disrespect i love cam ward i love i love i love him but you haven't proven yourself to that point to be to be to be integrated and in the mix when it comes to the coaching uh coaching decisions he can't have a little say so not in not absolutely absolutely absolutely not i mean but that's that's the most important position on the he ain't got no can he ain't got enough he ain't got enough skin in the game though that those kind of decisions those are 44 Peyton manning those are 44, Tom Brady. Those are 44, Patrick Mahomes, a John Elway or Dan Marine. No, no, no, no, no, no. You got to be proven, Joe. I mean, I know you're the number one picking the draft, but you've got to be
Starting point is 01:07:37 proven. And if you haven't proved yourself, you've got to be well on your way to being one of the best at your position to be able to have that kind of cachet to be, okay, I want to be in the conversations. I want to be in the meeting rooms and having some type of, uh, uh, uh, uh, voice when to come to who we have or the next head coach because that's someone that I'm going to have to deal with the most. Nah. Yeah, I absolutely not.
Starting point is 01:08:03 I'm trying to think. Hold on, Ocho. Let me think. I'm trying to go back where I can. Now, at the top of my head, a rookie, I can't recall. Hell, Ben Rothersberger had won a Super Bowl. The Rooney's didn't ask him about hiring Mike Tomlin, he didn't meet with nobody.
Starting point is 01:08:26 No. Like I said, that's a, that's a, a Peyton Manning in his prime. That's a Tom Brady. That's, I mean, bear a few. Now, maybe in basketball, because that's totally different. But in the football terms, nah. The reason why I'm saying it is, if that's the most, that's one of the most important positions on the field,
Starting point is 01:08:50 him and the coach need to have some type of co-heaval. to where they're both on the same page. You know what I mean? Like, you want your quarterback to be comfortable, and I just feel like I kind of understand what Cam is saying, but I understand what you guys are saying as well. Like, he may not be the first or second person, though, but to have some insight on who we're going to get,
Starting point is 01:09:10 he said he want to meet with a mojo, uh, Joe. He want to meet. He want to have actual input. That ain't happening. I like where his head is at, though. I like the energy. I like that. I don't, like I said in football, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:09:28 They don't normally afford players that kind of cachet. They don't, I'm trying to think. They didn't afford that to Brett. They didn't afford that to Aaron. They didn't afford that to, well, Brady only had one coach, and that was Coach Belichette. Yeah. Peyton, it was,
Starting point is 01:09:52 already just like, because Jim Caldwell was already the OC and Tony Dungey left early because he wanted to make sure that he left the cupboards full. So Jim Caldwell just stepped right in. Peyton had worked with him and so I'm sure Peyton was fine with that. And I think, I think, who's the general manager at the time? I can't think of his name. But I'm sure he, because he drafted Peyton and Peyton had, well, so Peyton got there in 98, coach what you call him left in like 2000 and they won the Super Bowl in 2006 I think he left in seven I think he left in seven and so Jim Carwood took over in eight or nine so yeah but ah ooh that's asking an awful lot for first to check of your player yeah yeah it is it is and listen hey hey Joe and on this is with good intentions as well this is with great intentions I'm sure
Starting point is 01:10:52 or, you know, based on why he wants to do it. And then you have to have the owners here, Ojo. You've got to be great with the owner. You've got to look at the relationship that Peyton Manning and Jim Urstey had. That's a whole different ball game. The relationship that John Elway and Mr. Boland had. They had a business together. So you got to, I mean, that ain't just like general managers.
Starting point is 01:11:14 One thing, you've got to have the ear of the owner. And there are various players that have that type of relationship with an owner. owner. Yeah. Yeah, that's true. So, boy, that's asking an awful lot for, like I said, a first thing. A lot. A lot. But we'll see. Maybe they're giving that, Ocho. I'm Stephan Curry, and this is Gentleman's Cut. I think what makes Gentleman's Cut different is me being a part of developing the profile of this beautiful finished product with every sip you get a little something different. your nearest total wines or Bevmo.
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