Club Shay Shay - Nightcap Hour 1: Johnny Manziel, Shannon Sharpe & Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson react to Alabama beats Vanderbilt at home, the Florida Gators beat Texas in a thriller and Colorado FALLS AGAIN!

Episode Date: October 5, 2025

Shannon Sharpe, Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson & Johnny Manziel react to Miami beating Florida State, the Alabama Crimson Tide beats Vanderbilt at home and the Florida Gators beat Texas in a thriller and much more! 04:20 - Miami beats FSU14:15 - Bama beats Vanderbilt29:40 - Gators beat Texas A&M47:15 - UCLA upsets Penn St56:30 - Texas A&M beats Mississippi State (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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He has a podcast called Glory Days with Johnny Manzell. Make sure you check out Johnny weekly as he has new and exciting guests every single week. Let's jump into the game that just ended. The number three Miami Hurricanes improved to 5 and 0 thanks to a 2822 victory over the Florida State Seminoles. Miami led 28 to 3 before holding off Florida State's rally. The Nol scored 19 points in the fourth quarter. Hurricane quarterback Carson Beck threw four touchdown. He was 20 of 27, 240 yards, four touchdown,

clean game, didn't turn it over. This was the kind of Carson Beck, the Georgia Bulldogs thought they was going to get Johnny. But unfortunately, he didn't play quite as well. But I think a lot of the pressure is off of him now because the University of Georgia going to back-to-back national championship with Stetson Bennett, being the most outstanding play. in the national championship game that added a lot of pressure to the guy that was coming in

following the guy not to say he doesn't have pressure following cam ward who was the number one overall pick before them national championship but miami are on to something johnny what did you like because they did a great job i mean you know florida state rallies late 2822 but what did you like about what you saw from the you and may more importantly cars and back look i think it's one of those things where sometimes when you go down to miami and you hit that south beach you're around there. You may get your swagger back a little bit. You get a program that's been hungry for success. You get a coach that has a lot of success. He's a great coach. You get a new start. Georgia wasn't for him and what he was doing, but you still saw flashes. You still

saw pieces of what he was as a player. And now you look, seven incompletions were at 75% damn near on a completion percentage, 241, 4 TDs. He's only taking one sack. That's good, efficient ball. You look at them right now, top five team in the country and rolling. You look at what they have, the rest of their schedule. This is a Miami team that is poised for the playoffs, where the quarterback that's playing very well and the rest of the team that is. Yeah, when you look at the end of this game, does it look a lot closer than what it actually was?

I'm sitting here watching this game tonight. It really 28 to 3. Yeah. It's really what it is. You can call it what you want to end and like whatever it may be, but this was a beatdown and a team that's playing really well. You look, they go to Louisville at home, Stanford at home, on the road to SMU, Syracuse, North Carolina State, Virginia Tech, and Pitt.

You're telling me we can't, we can't clean that up. We can't come out here and do what we need to do. This is a team that's playing well, and the U is hungry for success. As long as they don't look too far ahead, Ocho. I like what Miami is doing. They're playing really well on both sides of the football. they're attacking the quarterback, getting after the quarterback, and you're right.

At the end of the day, it's going to come down to Carson Beck. Can he take care of the football? Can he continue to play as well as he's been playing? Because as long as they don't look too far ahead, because as Johnny laid out some of their schedule ahead, sometimes you can look too far. Like, oh, man, damn, and somebody nipped you at the tape. Ocho, what did you like?

Let's stay on Miami. What did you like about what you saw from the Keynes? Well, listen, obviously Carson Beck. Carson Beck looking really well. Everyone talked trash about him getting the N.I. money and coming to Miami, you know, saying he wasn't going to be what we think he is despite what he's being paid. But obviously, he's lived up to expectations. Right. See, the receiving corps, a C.J. Daniels, Joseph Trader, Ray Ray Joseph, and the legendary, stay with me real quick.

The legendary Day County, De La, Antonio Brown, his son, Malachi, Tony. at their cutting up you know he got he got some big shoes of here and he's doing it very well I'm sure making pops proud um it's really good and it makes cars and Beck job absolutely easy because of his supporting cast we have a supporting cast like that it makes your job easy and obviously they're able to establish the running game as well and that allows him to move the ball the way they do at one point the score was 23 all those garbage points I hate when coaches is Johnny and um they do it in NFL as well is you get a substantive that you lead and you take your foot off the gas.

And I think they do it on the purpose because everybody does the same thing instead of run the goddamn scoreboard up. I think the thing is that Ocho, it's easier to play from behind than it is to play from ahead. Because you throw caution to the wind when you're behind because what the hell I have to lose, Ocho, I'm down 283.

So if I lose 41 to 3, ain't nobody going to say nothing. And so you do get a little cautious. We're throwing a little run. here and there because they like the same thing with Atlanta you see they were aggressive just like you want them to be right now they had the biggest loss in postseason history and it happened to be in the biggest game in postseason history because they were like oh what ocho wanted to stay aggressive and they let a team get back into the ball game you're ahead 283 you shouldn't have fewer rush attempts than the team that's down 283 but that's what the falcons had and I understand

that but I'm a firm believer Johnny you let me know what you think I think it's easy to play from behind that it is ahead because like I said I can run triple reverse I can run a flea flick I can do whatever I want to do because I'm already losing by three three scores so so what if I lose by four scores or five scores it's like a damn arena used to say all the time hell if I threw three picks who'd the cares if I threw five I'm gonna keep I'm gonna keep I'm gonna yeah it definitely gives you that mindset and that attitude to just go out and let it rip and it doesn't really matter like you throw a pick and we get beat we get beat at the end of the day it's the win loss into the game decision you either come out with the dove or you come out with the knell one of the two but playing

ahead and getting ahead and having them kind of crawl back in definitely tightens up your playbook changes what you're doing and when you're behind you ain't got no choice but to send it to try and get back in this thing you're taking your shots you know that middle read you may have that's never really on on the on the playbook for that play but it gets a little bit open you rip it in that situation type of thing. So, you know, look, overall for this game, super surprising last week after what Florida State did early in the season to go and lose a game like Virginia. And then you have a chance to try and bounce back and play a good Miami team and you're really not competitive. Does the score at the end of it look like you may have been? Sure. But in the

reality, you really weren't. So got to be disappointing for Florida State. Got to be back to the drawing board. I still think they have good pieces, but it's not going to be this year. Yeah, I agree. And I think the thing is, when they beat Atlanta, beat Alabama in the fashion that they beat them, we have very high expectations because you looked at the ACC is down this year. Clemson is not what Clemson normally is. And so that's really the only, really true test that we think that was in the ACC. But then, as you mentioned, Johnny, they go, I think it was a Thursday night, and they go to Virginia and the Cavaliers nipple. Now they come home. Now, look, Miami ain't no pushover. But we're looking at it like, okay, this is going to be a very interesting game

considering. But now all of a sudden, we're looking at them like, man, they went on the road and lost to Virginia. But Virginia might be better than we thought they were because they wanted to close ball game again today, guys. So Virginia might be better than we previously thought. But I definitely, I definitely agree that Florida State, I'm disappointed in what I've seen over the last two weeks. Miami is what we thought they would be. That's the reason why they've been ranked so high coming into the season. People had a lot of expectation. And as you mentioned, Ocho, this is why you give somebody $4 million. He's like, we're a quarterback away. We had a quarterback that goes number one in the draft. And so let's,

we still have pieces coming back. If we can get another facilitator, I like our chances. And they pulled the trigger. But Miami, this is still in state. This is still in state. This is still one of those battles in state. If we're in Texas and we're playing another Texas team, you want to come out and show some pride and show some love for your state. So this is no like, oh, we get a good team coming to town. It's just a game on the schedule. You look at their schedule for Miami, this is the last ranked team they currently play for the rest of the season.

For Florida State, they're trying to bounce back off a bad loss. But if they win this game, they're right back into where they want to be for playoff contention. You beat Bama, who's now rolling, and you beat Miami. So you're coming into this game with pride. a full week of practice, and you know what you're up against. And at the end of the day,

they didn't bring their best stuff, but it's still interstate where you're trying to go out and beat somebody that's a neighbor. Right. Yeah. When you play these, when you have these kind of teams,

you got the U, you got Florida State, and you got Florida, and the thing, you're like, it's almost like the commander-in-chief trophy. I won't brag it, right, bro. Right.

You know, you army, Navy, in the Air Force, bro, I'm trying to kick both y'all ass because I want that trophy. It is one of the other. Look, we might not be going to no bowl game, and we might only win three games or two games but as long as those two games it's army and navy if you're the air force

if you're if you're air force if it's against army and navy or if your navy is against air force in the army i don't care but i won't that trophy uh and so that's how miami looks at like look we want to be king because it's a recruiting battle also yeah you know you try to hey y'all think about going to florida y'all saw what we did to them yeah think about going to florida state you saw what we did to them y'all need to come on down there to the youth because ain't nothing popping in Gainesville and ain't nothing popping in Tallahassee. Something popping Gainesville tonight. Hey, you're there.

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The gaps in the holes that they have from an offensive standpoint today were massive. They were gashing Bandy all day. And coming into this game, you know, you look at the schedules of both teams. Bandy had scored 35 plus in every game. There's a game where they scored 70. That your offense is rolling, okay? And the only question was, is Vandy's defense in the trenches good enough to hold up? And in reality, when you look at it today and you see,

and you watch the game from the sideline, the answer was no. And it is a team game. I think if you look at what Diego Pavia did in the first half of this game, he played great. I think from an offensive play calling standpoint and what they do offensively, great. They do a lot of motion.

They did an unbelievable little fake run where the running back comes back and they option it to him and he scored. They're creative. And to get back to your question a little bit, Bama is playing at a level right now where they can compete with anybody in the country. If Ty Simpson is going to play ball

the way that he has played the last two weeks, Alabama has a chance to play with anybody in the country. I had to go up to him after the game. I'm on the field. I'm obviously sitting there in a Diego Pavia jersey. That is my dog. And people were asking me in the stadium, I'm like, what do you want me to do?

Walking here in a Mark Ingram jersey and I can't go back to A&M in two weeks. What do you want me to do? This is my guy, a guy I talk to weekly, and I'm pulling for him. Now, you look at it overall, and I went up to Diego after the game. This doesn't change anything for Vandy. I think they didn't play well in the second half, but they can have a loss in the SEC. He can have a game like that and still do the things that he wants to do and they want to do as a team.

Do they have a tough schedule? Sure. But you lost to a good team on the road in Brian Denny, which if you go back through history, not a lot of people have won at and i is that game started to get out of hand those fans started to come down that field area and started to rip me apart you're going to see some clips of me busting out of heisman and tell people to shine my trophy because i haven't been back there since 2012 in that stadium they're nothing you can say to me i'm sitting here supporting my boy and uh oh yeah by the way i already did what i needed to do in this stadium i already got something that's at my

mom's house for the rest of my life. So I'm good. Y'all can sit here and I'm chilling. And by the way, people in Tuscaloosa, nice. Look at this house. People taking care of me.

They love me out here, except for you little frat punks, we good. And last thing, I got all my money back. I lost on Bandit tonight. So, bang. Yeah, Bama look good. Hey, Ocho, you see that

370-pound fullback. They're running back. Man, big proctor. Big proctor. Hey, let me tell you something, huh? When he makes it to the next level, whatever team takes him needs to keep him in that same, in that same

area of special players and being a gadget player. And the one coach or the one team, I think he. Dan Campbell. Lions, the line. Why was that? Hey, Dan Campbell. I was just getting ready to say it. I was already thinking. Because you saw it throw a screen pass to Panaisal.

You see him throw a back shoulder fade to Decker tackle. So they know their office of Ben Johnson and I don't know the coordinator now. But they, hey, they'll try anything anywhere because it's all about winning. And they don't, hey, you're playing well. Hey, son, you ever caught a ball? You ever caught a pass before? Not a long time. Well, we're going to throw your ass one this week, son.

So get ready. It's so funny when you think about it. At what point, at what time has it ever, all I can think about is refrigerator pretty um the fridge car yeah the fridge yeah getting that dive back in the days i had never seen anything like that before but now to see a guard or a tackle out there catching screen passes running the ball too hand it oh he was the oh cho they put him in an offset eye he got he came to the quarterback open with the pocket and then bounced it i had never seen nothing like that hold on you ain't see his footwork when he caught the screen oh last week

Last week is Georgia. Yeah. You can't see the footwork on the sideline? Ocho, and did he try to drive for the pie? He tried to die for the pile line. But you know, he had the harness on. Ocho, you know, you got the harness on. You can't really raise your arm too high.

To keep it from going so high. But it was fun to watch. But when you look at, I agree with both of you said about, especially you, Johnny, about Vandy. When you look at Vandy, their defense is really good because they got out, they got out of Tonson,

and the Alabama offensive line, they did pressure it. But they got a quarterback now. It's hard to win in today's game at any level if you don't have that guy. Now, there was upon a time, if you had an outstanding defense. Yeah.

You can have anybody. You can run the football and win. Yeah. Not anymore. Those days are long gone. Hey, hey, you can't, and Johnny, I'm sure we're going to talk about this team. Most of the time, especially today's game,

then you throw the ball. so much you have to throw the ball to win because some of the defenses aren't as good as they used to be back in the day, the one player that you can't hide and will get exposed is your quarterback. Yeah. It is your quarterback. And I saw it today because the entire world where they told me, Johnny, I'm sure you heard it, knock, I'm sure you heard it, that he was the next coming of Jesus Christ or he was supposed to be. Right. Well, you know I'm going with that. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. It's tough. It's tough to play without a quarterback now because, like you said, Ocho, that's the only position that you can't hide.

Right. I can roll coverage. I can slide the line. I can chip. If I'm the running back, you know what I'm saying? If a guy doesn't have great hands, I bring somebody else in, let him play third downs. If the guy, you know, I can do a lot of different things to hide a lot of players. You know, I can slam my offensive line to keep you off off my, excuse my defensive line to keep you off my backers.

But the quarterback, how do you hide it? You can't. And listen, today in this game. one thing about college football that's different from the NFL is an NFL cover two defense you watched it there were teams i had a brian erlack on my podcast he like man we were in cover two all day long yes cover two in college football if you were not really fundamentally sound and where you're supposed to be and your backers get depth and your corners play it right Vandy today stayed in cover two for too long.

And Ty Simpson did what he needed to do with his eyes and threw the hole shot maybe six times. Yep. Oh, so when you got wide open whole shots all day on third down, second down and long, they're getting behind the sticks. Vandy gets a second and 20. Bang.

Whole shot for 18 and it's third and two. Those were plays where they just got, I'm just sitting there on the sideline screaming like, give me a two man. mix it up. They ran a simple stick and go on the outside corner and backer both jump on the low route and he and Ty Simpson just drills the whole shot before the safety can get there. And it's like 15 yards, 16 yards, 22 yards. Chunk blades. And you can't have that. And they just got eaten away. And especially when you're getting gashed in the run game too and you do finally get

the pressure and you do finally get into long situations and you can't get off the field. you're not going to have success. I'm going to cover three. Give me some quarters. Hey, hey, hey, Johnny, in a situation like that, you see a game like today, you've got to be able to take away something. Either you're going to take away the past,

but you can't allow them to dominate on both sides. You can't allow them to be successful in the past and the run. Then you're at a mercy. And look, we know how to get you out of cover too, Ocho. We run your ass out of cover, too. Absolutely. And because Alabama was running the ball well enough those lines the linebackers take one step forward now that's an extra couple of

steps that you're going to have to take to get back and then by that time bama receivers are in those gaps too late yeah and that's and that's what you have to do now a lot of teams play what we call tap play cover to and they call run tamper to where they take the mic backer and they run but when you do that yeah you but here's the thing you hey you take off like you're trying to get down the hole and then you just stop or you run you run you run him down the hole and do you take the receiver that's outside the numbers and run him on the dagger route. And they did it all night.

They did it all night. It didn't matter what they did. And then even in early in the game, even in cover three, they were just seeming it, making sure, like it was just a good offensive game plan from Bama. And to be honest, Vandy coming out in the second half and not being able to score points, having a couple three in outs and giving them the ball so much. Time of possession for Alabama versus Vandy in the second half was atrocious if you're a Vandy fan. But listen, this is still a good football team in Vandy.

It's a trending forward Alabama team. And so many people after last week when we spoke were like, man, you're a Bama hater and this and that. I ain't got to love them. I ain't go there. What are we talking about? I respect the SEC and I love SEC football. There's a lot of people here that treated me great to. in Tuscaloosa to respect what I did and respect the matchups we had.

So you got to look at it the same way with Diego Pavia and what Vandy did last year. They came and got the better of you out of nowhere. Now you come back, you get your revenge, and it's a good game. But it's split, one-one. They're saying it is what it is. And to be honest, these teams may meet again. Also, this is not your father and your grandfather's Commodores. I mean, when when was the last time,

we saw a Vandy ranked 16. When do we have last time we saw expectations? Normally you go into Vandy, you're going to get a great education. You're going to Alabama. You're trying to go to the NFL. You go to Georgia. You're trying to go to the NFL. I was telling a story today when we played Vandy in 2013.

I had half a shoulder, half an ankle, and went 25 at 26, and the ball barely never touched the ground. And we were out there toying. This ain't that Vandy. No, it's not. Props to them, props to their program. props to what they've done. But sometimes when you take the goalpost out and you run it all the way down

Broadway to the river, it doesn't sit well with Alabama fans. And they were, uh, they were juice for that one today. Oh, man, look, as a bad, they're lucky. They're lucky they ain't scoop up Alabama buses and take them and throw them in that damn river. We beat your ass in four decades on Joe. I mean, think about it. Some of their parents weren't alive.

Last time they beat, they beat Alabama. And you think I'm not going to do something. You can find us a million. the goal post coming down on both ends not just one both of them taking both B-O-F-L-L-F both I'm taking both of the Mopold down man come on that's bad thing about it Vanderbilt beating Alabama yeah yeah been a long time since yes how do we how do we feel about Kellyn DeBore's seat now two weeks later than what we were talking about three weeks ago he heard all the talk they uh they they

They put a little cushion under that thing, huh? Yeah, they absolutely did. They absolutely did. But look, I think the thing is when you, I think they said his record. I think he's like 117 and 17, but you're at Alabama. That ain't that James Franklin record. Yeah, no. Alabama measure success in SEC championships and national championships.

That's how they measure success. You, okay, you want to be 10 and 3, but if you bring us the SEC championship and you go play for the, you go play for a national championship, championship, we'll forgive that. All that 12 and 1, 13 and 1, and you ain't an SEC championship game and you're not in the national championship. Right. I'm trying to hear all that because what they're going to say, Ben, they're done that.

Those are fans that are spoiled. You get, you get Coach Bryant for two decades, and then you get another two decades out of Nick Saban. You win 12 national championships. How many did you play for? How many SEC championships did you win? That's the expectation of Alabama. That's as I'm Rudy for Vandy today and people are looking at me like we're hosting you here and this and that.

I go, how many times have y'all won or been? How much success? There's not, you sprinkle in a loss here and there, but it hasn't been consistent at all. So the Vandy and what they're doing with their success, I was pulling for that. And Pavia is a great kid. He is a great dude. He's got, I see so much of myself in him that I'm going to. continue to be friends with him and try and help him.

That's what I'm going to do. But you look at it, you guys both tell me what you think. The rest of the schedule for Alabama, they play at Mizzou next week, they play Tennessee at home, they play South Carolina on the road, they play LSU at home, and they play OU at home. And then end the season, of course, with Auburn. So this, we're going to see exactly what you're made of. Oh, yeah, for sure. You got three ranked, two rank matchups coming up.

South Carolina, who knows, they can get a little bit better. And then you've got two more rank matchups. This is a tough schedule. It's a tough schedule. Mater, is he back? Exactly. He'll be back. Mattier will be back by 1115.

Okay. Well, see, there you go. It ain't stopping. It ain't slowing down. This is SEC football, baby. Missouri's going to be tough. Yeah. South Carolina be tough on the road.

Tennessee, Tennessee shouldn't be Georgia. Yeah. It doesn't matter what Auburn's record is. The Iron Bowl is always the bowl. Always good. You already know. I've tried to wreck your season. I really am.

I mean, we're not going nowhere. I like it. I mean, we can't go. You can't even. The Gators wreaked havoc on Arch Manning to take down the number nine, Texas Longhorns, 29, 21.

All that preseasoned height with the number one ranking and all the excitements surrounding Arch Manning era are long in the rearview mirror. Arch finished with 263 passing yards, a pair of touchdowns and a pair of I&Ts, a defense that had been elite so far this season with Gash for 159 rushing yards by that Gator's attack. There may be an outside chance.

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Presented by Capital One, founding partner of IHeart Women's Sports. They got to have better quarterback play. You got to see the field a little bit better. You got to understand what you're seeing being able to process defenses before they happen. I'm no disrespect. I'm just saying in general, their quarterback play is one of the reasons why you're the situation you're in now. Now, despite what all the analysts say, all the people say and with the praises and how you're supposed to be, he's going to need a year like this.

He's going to need a year like this with some bumps, some bumps and bruises and grinding and getting familiar with what was going on this year. And I'm assuming maybe next year he will come back much better, having a year under his belt to get familiar with the speed at the game, being able to process things a little faster and knowing some of the nuances and what you can and can't do as far as taking chances with the ball. Sometimes how it just feels to go into these stadiums and into these big games, right? For him, it's not Arch's fault. And we have sat here and I've been critical of him and I've said certain things.

And it's not his fault. It's not his fault. His last name is what it is. It's not his fault that people were clamoring for him last year with Quinn U. And when I saw the score tonight, of course, being an Aggie, they laugh at our pain every single year. We're the butt of the joke every single year. So now it's my turn, okay? I'm laughing.

And I said, man, I bet you boys miss Quinn Ewers. I bet all that clamoring all that jaunt about Quinn Ewers, Quinn was slinging it. Quinn got you between two plays of getting to the Natty, the Michigan year that they wanted. so listen it's not arch's fault he's a sophomore he is a young kid that is developing under a very good coach and a program that has potential but this is a florida team that we have sat here for countless minutes and said what the hell they doing can we get urban can we get jimbo can we get something but you look lagway played great that is the lagway we expected to see and when you look at it from a texas

standpoint, Arch Manning being the leading rusher with 37 yards and as a team rushing for 52, you can't get out your own shadow. No. Yeah. That, that is. Two yards of carry. Two. Perible. So, look, this is

the Texas team two that has opportunity. You still got chances. You go and lose one to Florida? Guess what? Guess what next week is? That one split down the middle in Dallas. Yeah. Oh, they play OU?

Ranked top five. You go win that game. It's going to get ugly. You never know. It's a mature back. Maybe you catch them this year without their starting quarterback. All right?

So for Texas, it's not all bad. They're going to catch some flag for the Aggies and me because we're finally winning and you guys take an L versus a team that's been terrible. But at the end of the day, for Arch, these are growing pains. A year for him as a sophomore,

he can come back two years and be a great quarterback and have a great career. and do what he needs to do and be a Texas legend. But for right now, this team, the preseason number one, they're not that team that we thought they were. No, I think the thing is that when you look at it, everybody, all Texas fan, put an arch, put an arch, y'all skewer.

And I was like, I thought you were bad. I wasn't clamoring for Arch Manning because I had seen enough because I'm seeing him putting up staffs against San Jose State. I said, bro, that's not SEC competition. Now, when I see him put up numbers like, that against SEC competition, then maybe I'll start clamoring for him. But the thing that's working against Arch is expectations and that last name. Because the thing was happening, man, Peyton would have made that throw.

Peyton would have did that. Eli, he ain't even, Eli, bro. You do realize, like, those were number one overall draft picks, both of them, with number one overall draft picks. Peyton is a top five quarterback and you might not take him out of the top three. With all that being said, Eli, just one of the best. That's big game quarterbacks in NFL history, beat Tom Brady twice in the most meaningful game that our sport has to offer.

But, I mean, who's surprised? Did y'all really, y'all really thought that Arch Manny was going to be paid? Y'all really thought that. I did. I thought it was going to be great because most of the time, you know what happens? When you come from that type of lineage of great quarterbacks, most of the time, it trickles down one after another. No, it doesn't.

There's one thing, Oach, it's the mental side of things. It's the how to carry yourself side of things. It's what you see from the greats that you've been around with access that nobody in the world gets to see. But where he went to school, when you go watch Arch Manning highlight tape and you see the dudes that are chasing after him, my grandma on a wheelchair move faster than some of them boys that were chasing after him. He ain't play 6A. We and my boys were talking about this other day. If you put him in 6A, Dallas or Houston football.

right you go see some dogs yeah you're going to see some people who can play he didn't play that competition so this is his first level of playing guys who are real real dogs right you play in the cc and you get an offer and you're a starter you can play you got the size you got the speed you don't see a lot of you don't see a lot of bombs out there so yeah yeah it's going to take some time for him to get used to that and it's not his fault that's just where he went to high school. I didn't go to a high school that was 5A, 6A in Texas, but my coaches were so gangster that they wanted to go play those guys in our non-conference. Is they like, you know what? Even if we get smoked, we're going to see stuff that we may not see in the playoffs or we'll be ready for the

playoffs. So it made us better. So this, if you handle it the right way as he's going to have Peyton and Eli and everybody in his ear, listen, failure produces growth. This stuff produces growth. If Texas goes eight and four this year after being preseason number one, that's hungry off season. That's growth. Yeah. And the funny thing, too, about it, Johnny.

And I like to kind of the piggyback on what I was saying about obviously, Arch and, I mean, I'm talking about Arch, Peyton and Eli being so good and why I thought, well, hell, well, maybe he's going to fall right behind because I look at the Bosa brothers. I look at the Wob brothers. I just look at how they both obviously were great at their respected

crafts so i expected after hearing all the noise about arch i'm expecting him because i i've never seen him play i never saw him play i didn't see him playing in high school saw a small symbolized to him as a freshman so i'm thinking well hell qune iris is now gone i'm thinking he's going to be all world and then come to find out it's really not what we what i thought it would be and just growing pains growing pain oh joe your point is valid when you look at brothers, but their dad wasn't the sons. Hey, Archie Manning, I remember Archie Manning playing. He's the number two pick in the draft.

Yeah, he wasn't Peyton. We talked about this, the likelihood, so you won't God to just give you everything. You know what? I'm in the Hall of Fame and I want my son to be great to. So Magic Johnson, and all these kids with son, you want them to be the equivalent of what their dad was. Bobby Barnes was an outstanding player.

Right. He wasn't Barry. Ken Griffey, Senior was an outstanding major league player. He wasn't junior. Yeah. That ain't happening. So the likelihood of like, really? Yeah, I thought it would have been three.

And he got a long way to go now. He got two full years after this one. You can look up, he can stay, do the Colt McCoy thing, stay his entire career at Texas. Oh, I think he would. He played three years, and you could look up. He can be the number one pick in the draft in 2028 or whatever it may be. He can't.

He still has that. But he has to grow. He needs reps. He needs time. He's got the lineage. He's got everything. Like you said, it just takes some time, man. He's not where he needs to be or where everybody thought he was.

Everybody wants things to move so quick. Get him out. He's the first pick in the draft this year and that. And reality, let the kid be a kid and grow. and get an education and have fun and grow into the player that he deserves and needs to be. Right. Yeah. Look at Dale and Steph.

Dale Curry played 16, 17 years than the NBA. Dale Curry is not his son. And that's no knock because when you have that kind of longevity, obviously you can play. Oh, yeah, absolutely. But Steph Curry is a transcendent player. And so the likelihood, like I said, to be that, like I said, you get brothers. Look, you get the watch. Look at TJ and JJ.

Me and my brother, Ronda and Tiki, you get Clay Matthews and you get Bruce Matthews. Yeah. In that situation, though, you guys get to grind together, right? Yes. You get to grow together. You got to see him and learn from him and follow in that. Because we're close in age. It's different when it comes decades apart.

Right. Yes. And you see it from a sideline when you're six years old and Peyton's winning a Super Bowl. It's not the same as having your older brother, too. years apart who is you're seeing it right in front of your right it's different because you're asking yourself am i am i too hard am i hard enough and then he has to deal with your dad would have made that play man your uncle would have completed that pass oh yeah you're not your because i told you the story oh cho that ken griffie said he can't went to see his son and he's son struck out and

the guy sitting next to him say hey he he's not you and griffin looked at him and said name five players who were. That's a good one. It's a bar. So when you when you think about it, now you get an appreciation because Payton took off for

for Hilton, who ended up playing baseball, who was a great first baseman for the Colorado Rockies, and it didn't look back. Right. Eli got in, and he didn't look back.

I don't think anybody was calling for Peyton or Eli to be replaced. And what he's up against is that legacy. That's what he's up against. And you know, Johnny, this, when you play in the SEC, you might get a legacy scholarship to go there. You damn sure they're going to get no legacy scholarship to get your ass on the field because they're all about winning. And they're going to put the best 11 on the offense, the best 11 on defense, and the best 11 on special teams will trot out there every single time. Your last name is not going to save you from them looking in that transfer portal that can somebody that can bring somebody in and beat you out in the spring.

Yeah. It's just the facts of the college football. world we're in now. You can go slide a million and a half to somebody that played at a smaller school but has a lot of talent, but hasn't had the opportunity. And you can have somebody come in in the spring and in February. And he can play. And he can come in and beat you out. And I don't think that'll be the case. But I definitely think of Texas, depending on how their season goes, they're not going to be accepting what it is right now and what's going on. And this is not a knock to arch. I think if you look at him overall as a player, has he struggled? Has he hit the things

he needed to hit? Does he look like himself? No. But does he have the potential and the tools that he needs? Most likely. But you have to develop. And he's with a coach that I believe is a good developer of talent. But you have to look at it from a team standpoint too. Texas lost a lot of pieces last year that made them really, really good. From a receiver standpoint, from a defensive from a running running back Sam like from a golden what's the other guy name they lost they lost two receivers right

I think so yeah because one was talking about he's going to run like he was going to go and he's going to break the record Matthew they lost Matthew golden yeah he agreed and they lost another one too I forgot his name he didn't he go to Isaiah Bond was a bond yes yes I've been Isaiah Bond yeah the transfer from Alabama

because he started at Alabama yeah so but but look I mean Texas still has a program that is a lot better shaped than they were when you went through the Charlie Strong years and Mack left and they couldn't find a quarterback and they really struggled. I mean, they have had a lot of success

in the last couple years of getting into the playoff, being close to where they want to be. And they're just not playing their best ball right now. But it doesn't slow down. You got OU this week. You got more games coming up. Like, this SEC gauntlet, depending on what your draw is throughout the year,

is tough, man. It is. We're talking about BAMMIS. schedule. We talked about A&M schedule last week. Some teams may have it easier depending on it not being split down the middle and you playing set teams anymore. Like we don't play Bama this year.

Lucky us. Normally, two years ago, we got to go to, we got to play them. We got to play LSU. We play every team in our division. So now with it being this way, it really is luck of the draw and who you play is if they're good or not. Johnny, you mentioned talk

earlier about DJ Langway because We felt that he hadn't been playing up to par, but he had himself a night tonight, 21 of 28, 298, two touchdowns, had one I-N-T. They ran the ball 37 times for 159 yards. Bond, Bon, had 27 for 107, and Wilson had six for 111 and two touchdowns. So they got the balance that they needed to keep Texas off balance because they was running it and Lagway had a day throwing the football. And this is the kind of, this is what we expected of Lagway at the start of the season.

He was, you know, preseasoned, like, okay, obviously, with Nussmeyer, they thought those were going to be the guys in the SEC, but this was the best that he's looked. And it might have taken Billy Napier off the hot seat guys for at least a week, or at least Luther Vandross, you should say, if only for one night. He gets to sleep easy tonight, Johnny. Well, here's the thing I don't like about this, is I can enjoy it and revel in the Texas unsuccessfulness. Next

Saturday, 10-11, Florida comes on down to college station. And that's a nice win for them to build off of, a competence builder for Lagway, and us being a six-ring team in the country. You know that you're playing a team

that is capable of beating a top 10 team, and you're going to have your hands full. So one week ago, this looked like a game A&M could check off kind of you never want to just check through it but it was one that you feel like you're going to be confident about winning and now you kind of look at it and go okay we better tighten up because we're getting their best shot for sure for sure Dallas wilson finished with

six catches of buck 11 and two touchdown it was the best debut for a freshman receiver at florida in program's history and we know some of the receivers that's come out of there the high draft picks that's come out of the university of florida but this young man had the best debut game game in Florida history. But like, yeah, Napier is off the hot seat because boy, hey, he lost this game. And now you talk about one and four. Oh, he got, he got to get up out of that, Johnny. And they still got, if I'm not mistaken, they still got their rivalry with Georgia.

So, oh, yeah, you can't keep losing all these games and then lose the Georgia, the Georgia, Florida rivalry. A&M number six, they play Mississippi State. They play Georgia's number 12. They play Kentucky. And then they go number four, Ole Miss, number 15, Tennessee, number 18, Florida State to finish the year. Yeah, it ain't look for, boy, it ain't.

It ain't looking good for the home team, Mocho. Yeah. But at least they showed in the locker room, at least you can go in the locker room and turn around and look and be like, okay, we got it. Like, we can. We went out and beat a Texas team that's ranked. Are they as good as we thought they were?

Whatever. but it's a top tier SEC team and we got more of them coming up so as a Florida locker room this is a positive season building thing right yeah we was talking about Billy Napier and Kalin DeBoer being on the hot seat jane frank let's say get your ass off that hot seat let me get on there and sure enough last Saturday's lost the organ uh they lost the number two organ um but lose this is the o and 14 they had fired their entire staff i don't know is that rick new heysel son jerry new heisel it is okay okay so now it's the first lost penn state in 34 games against the unranked team penn state the first top 10 team to lose to an order o and four team or worst

opponent in 40 years since texasel passel knocked off the defending national champ in 1985 B.YU. It was impossible for a play. Hey, it ain't going to playoff now. No. You ain't losing that game. No. And going to the playoffs. Nico Amalaba. Yeah, Malayana.

Well, he played today. He didn't leave today. They probably, uh, uh, uh, UCLA probably wanted him to go. Joddy, they had lost that game today. But he played outstanding today. He is 17 or 24, 166. Two touchdowns, 16 rush attempts, 128 yards, three touchdowns. He was outstanding. And again, now, everybody last week when we were talking about James Franklin,

whoa, but he this, he there. Okay, now what y'all got? Mm-hmm. I'm interested to know what you got. The team fired their entire staff. I don't even know where they got Jerry Newhouse from. I don't know if he was on his staff or not. But all I know is that the number 17, 17.

in the country the seventh ranked team in the country and you go on the road they might have not won they might have not won 10 games in the last three years and they had you die the matter fact they had you down at the half 27-7 they had you fade hold on they had they had they had them favored they had been state favor to win by what 24 if i'm mistaken something yeah UCLA covered plus 24 and a half oh as now so That's one of those money lines you're looking for all year. Like, ooh, that pays. Well, I hope that wasn't your suicide pick,

because you know you have a suicide pick him, but you can't pick them again. Right, right. Hey, here you are week four, and it's gone. Drew Allen, 1926, 200 yards, two touchdowns. But he was your leading Russia with 11 carries for 78 yards. UCLA random ball 53 times, 269 yards.

I can just imagine what that time of possession was. When you run the ball that many times, you probably had the ball for. I'm going to say you had the ball 40 minutes on your 39 minutes and 17 seconds. Something like that. If you got a team that's able to impose their will on you and run the ball at will like that with that amount of yards and have that type of time possession,

the chances you're winning a game is slim than none. But when you do get the ball, you're going to have to match them score for score and Penn State wasn't able to do that on either side of the ball. I'm not sure what's going on, especially them to lose to an O-Fortune like that. And the moniker that we always say, especially

in NFL, any given Sunday, or hell, any given Saturday. Any given Saturday, and that was the perfect example of that definition today and what we saw from UCLA. Yeah, this is a back to the drawing board. This is back to the drawing board for Penn State. This is a backbreaker.

You come out and you play in game last week where you have real opportunity to go and win and you feel like you know what we let that one slip but we can build off it and then you come out and you sit in the locker room at halftime and it's 27-7 and you're looking around you're wide-eyed you're like what's going on and then the game ends the way that it does to UCLA team that's been getting laughed at and then it's been really tough and Nico's taking a lot of slack for what happened at Tennessee so when you look at it in this game you have to say respect to UCLA for doing what they needed to do, getting people in there

and coming, getting a good win versus the top end team. And Penn State has to be sitting there just kicking themselves because this is a season ending kind of loss. Oh, yeah, for sure. Penn State only had nine third downs. UCLA was 10 or 16. Damn. So they converted more third downs than Penn State had.

Got total. You go 10 or 16. Oh, you're going to have. paddle ball a long-ass time. Tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick. That's so frustrating. Yeah. Because you're hoping, man, let's get the third down.

Let's get the third down. Then you get to a third and seven and they get all the air gone. Damn. Come on, Dee. Come on, Dee. Let's get them off the field. Come on. We didn't get them off the field.

We didn't get them off the field. That was, that was you. Look, that, go ahead, Ocho, go ahead. I'm going to say, I mean, obviously, Johnny, you would know better than me. Coach, you understand how college football works as far as entities of this magnitude, especially Penn State that have a certain standard that they always go by or buy-bye. Does Coach Franklin make it through the season, you think? I don't think they're going to pull up those same stats we were talking about.

I still think they're going to look at it as a guy who's built a good program, a guy that was successful at Vanderbilt. I still think they look at him as a guy that can get them where they want to go. That's just my opinion of the situation. It's one of those things, too. You've got to go replace him with somebody who can do what you want to do. And there's not a ton of guys just sitting out there that you can just go pluck. Right. You are Penn State, which is a person.

prestigious program, but you are not Alabama. You are not. Texas, Ohio State, Ohio State, Oregon. You are not that. You are not LSU. So you are a good program, but you can't just come in and buy somebody out of their contract or this. So if you get rid of a James Franklin, who is a good coach and a program builder, you don't want to take a step back and maybe taking a shot on somebody else. So I would think he'll get a grace year and you'll have to come back in next year and if this continues then it's something you look at seriously but that's just my opinion in the situation and what I see I agree I don't think I don't think they do anything in the middle of the season this is not a situation like UCLA Ocho because they looked

at that situation like there is no there is no light on the horizon right we've gone through several years of this and this just isn't going to cut it okay I got and you started off 0 and 3 this year you lost to a team that you probably weren't supposed to lose to they're like nah we've done we've seen enough we've seen enough and they pulled a plug on it so i'm not i agree johnny i don't think they do anything now maybe next year you go back it but who's out there you're not getting a coach to leave sart is not leaving texas to go to penn state now you might get some coordinator to go to Penn State, but to get a big time coach to leave a program, nah, nah, you're not getting Freeman to leave Notre Dame, you're not getting Brian

Kelly to leave LSU. Kirby, Kirby ain't leaving Georgia. DeBoar is not leaving Alabama. The day is not leaving Ohio State. The guy at Michigan is not leaving Michigan. So Dan Lanning is definitely not leaving Oregon. So what, what, who are you going to hire? You go, you go, you go high.

hire a creative up-and-comer, a G.J. Kinney type of dude who built a good program but is in a smaller school, or you go to the fired football coaches association, is what John Gruden calls it, and you go find somebody who got bought out for $90 million and try and get him up there and lure him in with another $150 and see how much he likes the bag. Yeah. Yeah. That's your option. People talk about Lane Kiffin. I think Lane Kiffin, the only job, Lane Kiffin, he'll leave and go to Alabama. I think that's the only job. Because first of all, if Bamma called, everybody's listening.

Yeah. That's the one school that everybody. It is, you say you, you're the AD for who? Alabama, the Alabama, the elephant? That one. Oh, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. How you doing? Yeah, we just wanted if you're, okay, you listen.

You listen. Yeah. Nick Sabo was at Miami. Miami the Dolphins Alabama calls he took that call he's like man you know what hey did a little bit of money y'all paying me ain't worth it they don't want to listen let me go somewhere I got these kids want to get to this level yeah and they'll listen to every and they'll hang on and listen to every damn word I say where I got a little bit more control and he built a factory down there yeah Johnny your team Texas A&M the Aggies number six

Aggies, 31-9 over Mississippi State. They remain undefeated. Ended up five yards of carry for the game, nearly exceeding 300 yards. They had 54 carries, 299 yards rushing. Jesus. Well, if you got that many yards rushing, you got 40 minutes on your hands.

Maybe a little more, 3817. So 23 first down, 7 of 15, Mississippi State was one of 10. on third down. Surprised the score wasn't more lopsided than that. 479 total yards to 219. 13 to 23 for your guy, Marcia Reed. He wasn't asked to do a whole lot,

but they got the job done 31 to 9. I don't know how much of this game you saw, Johnny, but what did you like about what you saw, if you did watch someone, what did you like about what you saw? because I know you're a big Reed fan. Yeah, no, so listen, I watched a little bit of it, but I think you look at the last two weeks for A&M

and you get into SEC play, right? They've given up 10 points versus Auburn and 9 versus Mississippi State. That is playing very solid, fundamental defense flying, rallying to the football, not missing tackles, doing the right things. The cool thing, too, for A&M, the Aggie should be excited about,

is when you rush for 300 yards, the pressure comes off of Marcel Reed. So Marco Reed can now have a 56% completion percentage, throw a pick, only throw for 180 yards, and he only rushed for 30. But it's not one of those things where you're taking 500 bricks and putting it on his back. Right? You've got a defense that's getting you back on the field quickly. You've got an offensive line that's helmet to helmet moving the line of scrimmage, and you have a running back that's going for over 100 yards. it's team complimentary football. Yep.

And that's what you want to see. That's the making of a good team. Not where you're lopsided and your offense has to carry and take over for your defense or whatever it may be. But for Texas A&M, this is another check of the box of an SEC win in a game that normally, if you don't come out and have your preparation and everything, tease, crossed, eyes, dotted, and everything, you can lose a game like this. But I think Elko has the guys rolling. I think he hasn't focused. And I think you have to look at them and say they are contenders.

Another check on the box for A&M. Man, I'm watching A&M come out of that tunnel. Boy, they were hype. Boy, they think they had that thing. That thing was live, man. I said, okay, A&M, y'all might be ready. The A&M defense held Mississippi State to under 220 yards of total offense. So when you can run it for 300, hold the opposing.

team to under 220 in a college game with all the plays that they're going to run. Yeah. This was a, this was a thorough domination. I'm surprised that it went by, like you said, when you run it, I mean, you're not going to rush, I mean, score a bunch of touchdowns running the football. You will keep your defense off the field. And when they do get on the field, they can go hunting because they're fresh. But I thought A&M played extremely well today.

Hey, Johnny, you know what? I wouldn't agree with you. and Johnny being a homer. When it's all I'm doing it, they might have something to say. They might be like the devil going down to Georgia. What I said last week, which is exactly this, from what we have seen from A&M so far, if you give it an honest assessment from a full team football perspective, you have seen the right pieces from an offensive standpoint, from a defensive standpoint,

and from a special team standpoint. You've got a receiving core that could be as good as anybody in the country. You got a ground game that can pop off 300 in your face. You got to, and when you run the ball like that, like you said, your defense is fresh. I want my dogs on the D-line who are going to get drafted in that first, second, third round. If they're fresh and sitting on the sideline over there on the cool benches having the water and they get to go pin their ears back for three plays and get off the field, that is a recipe for success. So to not jinx my Aggies by hype on them up too much because.

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