Club Shay Shay - Nightcap - Hour 1: Justin Gatlin joins the show

Episode Date: August 4, 2024

Former USA Olympic sprinter Justin Gatlin joins Shannon Sharpe and Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson to react to Sha'Carri Richardson placing second in the women's Olympic 100m final behind St. Lucia's Julien Alfred. Later, they share their predictions for the men's 100m featuring Jamaica's Kishane Thompson and USA's Noah Lyles, and much more!03:40 - Show Starts05:03 - Justin Gatlin Joins the show22:30 - Shelly Ann Frasier pulls from 100m26:22 - USA Mixed 4x400 Relay01:14:51 - Pole Vaulters pole gets him disqualified(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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And my clothing company, 84. That's 84 spelled out. As you can see, Ocho and I are wearing the new Olympic merch that just dropped. You can see what it is right here. Ocho got the white on. I got the gray kind of blue accent. Ocho got the shorts also. Hey, they sent me these trying to get me to squeeze Texas and Georgia.

Y'all know that wasn't going to work. So here we are right now. I could just hold up mine. They actually thought I was going to be able to fit in these. That's what my ass is doing. Use code OLYMPICS. And the Olympic merch just dropped. And the link is pinned at the top of the chat. Ladies and gentlemen, we have a very, very special guest joining us

to recap the day's events, the sprinting events. He's a five-time Olympic medalist. He's a 12-time world championship medalist. He's a 2004 Olympic champion, 100 meters. He beat Francis Obekwelu from Portugal by one one-hundredth of a second. He ran 9.85. Obekwelu ran 9.86. He's a 2005 and 2017 world champ in the 100 meters. He's a

2005 world champ in the 200 meters. He's a 2019 world champ in the 4x4. Excuse me, the 4x1. He is none other than Justin Gatlin. Nephew, what's going on, bro? Thanks for joining us. I appreciate it, man. I appreciate it.

Chad, what's up? What's up, baby? Everything good. I'm still waiting to race you. up? What's up, baby? Everything good. I'm still waiting to race you. I've been waiting by 10, 15 years now. We're going to put them spikes on. But you know what? First of all, I was trying to add that to my stats. I was trying to get that on to say, hey, beat Chad Ocho Cinco in a street race.

But my package ain't come. I hit the button that said 30 days on Amazon and said overnight. So I ain't get my spikes yet. So we're going to wait for those. OK, OK. We're going to get that popping, on Amazon and said overnight. So I ain't get my spikes yet. So we gonna wait for those. Okay, okay. We gonna get that popping though. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Justin, let's jump right into it. In the women's 100-meter

final, this was an upset. She was the overwhelming favorite, although Julianne Alfred has been running well all year. She's been in her bag all year. So let's not just make it seem like she just came on the scene. She's an NCAA champ. She's a medalist on the world stage.

She can run. And she put the race together of her life. She got out of the block and Sha'Carri couldn't chase her down. It seems like to me that Sha'Carri was not, she was not herself. She wasn't a jubilant. She wasn't playing around like she normally was.

When you watch this race and you break it down from your professional standpoint, what, besides Julian Alpert running well, what do you think happened to Sha'Carri in this race? Well, you know, I think Sha'Carri is known to be a fighter, right? That's how she's made her mark in the sport. She's fought the world. We know it because you can see it in her races.

When she comes across that line, she's roaring. You know what I mean? So watching her run, she didn't show that, I think, in the semis and the finals. But once again, just like in the Super Bowl, when you get to that Olympic line, everything that you think of, that when you was a little kid about being an Olympic medalist

or going to the Super Bowl, there's a flashback to come to you. That moment is here now. It's a heavy moment that you have to put on your back when that gun goes off. So I think at the end of the day, sometimes that moment gets bigger than you and the preparation, you just got to put to the side and say, everything that got me to this point, I'm going to do it again. Go ahead, Ocho. I mean, I think all Sha'Carri has to do. She's been phenomenal all year. She's been phenomenal all year. Obviously, she did win silver.

And there's one thing. I'm not a track runner. I'm not a track star, but I am familiar with track runners, with athletes. I have one now. My daughter's here. She's at University of Kentucky. If we could help my baby, if we could help my baby with her start, just get a faster start,

a better start, turn it over a little faster, because the second, the back half of the race, she's good. She's good. And other than that, I have nothing bad to say. I'm happy. I'm happy she won silver, and I'm excited. I'm excited. I don't think that the Sha'Carri that we know showed up today

and that's nothing against shakari because i think that if the shakari we know that showed up to olympic trials would have handled business today that would have been that would have been a very close race and a very competitive race today hey uh justin i have a question what someone as good as that um i'm sure obviously whenever you race especially on a stage this big do you as a runner as a competitor do you still consider it um a bad thing coming in second is that is that i mean how do you guys view it as olympic sprinters not winning gold but still but still placing you know really well i mean when you look at the point of how you trained all year you've become the favorite and you've worked so hard to make sure you want to

obtain that goal. Yes. It's a little hurt in your heart. You know what I mean? Cause your focus is to get that goal. That's what you're here for. You're the favorite going into the finals. You're the favorite going into the Olympics. So everyone's already saying that it's yours to lose. That's what you want. But at the, if you're looking at it from like 50,000 feet up, when you look at yourself, like 7.9 billion people in the world,

you getting that second place is still an accomplishment. You know what I mean? Especially if you have a young career, you have a long career in front of you. So I don't think that she should walk away feeling with her head hanging down. It's the fact that it's motivation going into the world championships

and her getting ready for the next Olympics when it comes. Oh, oh yeah but this is what we've talked about with shakari all along even when shakari um before what transpired in 2021 we always question the stars we know we know at this level this is not high school this is not the collegiate level justin you are not going to consistently run down these men and women if you get left in the blocks. They're just too talented. You can't spot a great, you can't spot women and men that are the

equivalent of you two meters and think you're going to chase them down. The reason why Boat got so good, became great, is because he worked on that start. And once he could get out the blocks even with you once he got to 50 meters and he stood up it was over shakari has a top end like you got to go back to flojo to find a female that has a top end like shakari but she's giving up too much

ground in the beginning of the race justin and she can't chase these women down consistently so my coach when i was when i was competing is actually her coach and my coach always said dennis mitchell said nine seven don't catch nine seven so you can't give a deficit to an individual that is your equal out there when you compete in the guest you got to make sure that you go through your checks and balances before that race and when that gun goes off anything that is what you got to make sure that you go through your checks and balances before that race. And when that gun goes off, anything that is what you got to hit, which is your strong suit, you got to capitalize on your strong suit. And her strong suit is that second half. She has to be in striking distance of the Julian Alford because Julian Alford is strong. She's going to push through that line.

And that's what she did tonight. She got in front and she did not relinquish that lead. But Sha'Carri had to give, like you said earlier, with Usain Bolt, have a good start. You ain't got to be in front of the field. We know that when the light goes on and you hit that 50-meter mark, Sha'Carri wakes up. And we see what she can do when she wakes up. So the fact is, now the Olympic gold is somewhere else. Let that be motivation for her to be able to come back and do something bigger and better.

We need to see a 10.5. Yeah, but here's the thing, Justin, is that we look at her in the trials. She ran 10.71. She ran high 10.80s. Do you... I don't know if people understand how slow... Now, we're not

talking about the world when she ran 10.65, which is probably one of the four or five fastest times ever run by a woman. She ran 1071 at the trials, and it wasn't close. Today, she ran high 1080s. That's not Sha'Carri. Sha'Carri can run 1080

in her sleep. But I believe the moment, the pressure, the expectations came along and all of a sudden she was stealing the blocks. I'm like, she's not catching. Once I saw

the way Julian Averitt got out, I said, Shakira's not catching her. Not today. Not today. She'd have had to run 10-6. I don't know if she could have called if she'd have run 10-65 with the start that she got today, Justin. And listen, and what we're trying to do, we're trying to analyze and go through the steps,

the cadence of what a world-class runner, male or female, goes through. And what Justin's saying, what I'm trying to say is that, look, he said it. Dennis Mitchell said, if you run 9.7 and I run 9.7 and I get you out the gate, you're not catching me. It's just like a race car. If we both got 800 horsepower and I get you off the line, Ocho, you're not catching me. If I got 800 horsepower, you got 800 horsepower and we're the equivalent drivers. So she had to hit that mark. She needed to be with Alfred.

And then when we got to 50, now let's's see my top end has already was even with your back with your front end and now let's see who can get to the the last 50 meters and go ahead yeah i always thought about something when i think about racing obviously i don't know track like that just you can correct me if i'm wrong i think there may be two phases maybe three different phases in in track obviously there's a start. That's one phase, I would assume. Then you have your drive phase, which I'm assuming you're driving out to get out. And then I'm not sure what the third phase might be called.

Your transition, being able to hold that phase as long as possible. I'm assuming your strength, you don't actually turn over and get fast. You're just able to maintain that top end speed longer than everybody else so when it comes to racers there's a bunch of receivers in the nfl everybody can catch but they all get open a different way so are there runners or is it is it is it crazy to say that each runner has a different strength and nobody will have all three phases and be really wet really good at all three phases justin that's's the one thing I love about running 100 meters, man. All three of us are built different. We have different attributes

we bring to the table, but all three of us can run sub 10. That's what you're looking at when you're looking at those women when they get to the line and the men. It's the fact that some are tall, some are short, some are stocky, some are skinny, but the fact is they all can go. You know what I mean? I think you have to play on what your strengths are, but you have to mask and protect what your weaknesses are and for her in

that situation is all right we know you're not the best starter in the world but the fact is it's saying like you say you got to make sure that you get out you in striking distance and you got to get to what you are good at which is your top end speed you have your start you have your drive phase you have your transition you have your top end speed and you finish that's what it is so five phases and she's good at four of those five you see what i'm saying once she gets going it's a wrap and we've seen it especially through that through that prelims if you watch her prelims no wheels were spinning when she's coming through that line and she only caught the 10-9 and she was just spinning. So you notice she had a lot left in the tank and the confidence was there as well. Going into that finals and that semis, it was a whole different ballgame. Then when you line up next to somebody that you know that can be a possible threat, you know what I'm saying? Now you start second guessing.

Put that doubt in your mind. Exactly. In those moments when you were running Olympic finals, there ain't no four quarters. There ain't no two halves. You only get 10 seconds for them females. You don't get nine seconds for the men. You ain't got time to think. It's all instinctual. You got to react like a savage. You got to get out there and just go. Yeah, I agree with you, Justin. I'm not so sure. I'm not saying that she. Oh, remember you and I was talking. Justin, how fair would it be if Usain Bolt had Christian Coleman start or had your start it wouldn't be far fair he runs sub 9-4 if he had

a start like that with a top it yeah with a top it like what he has but the thing is as runners once you get to a certain point it's not about up. It's about the process when you start to decelerate. His deceleration is so much slower than everyone else's deceleration. And so that's why it looks like, man, he's speeding up. He's not. It's just everybody else is slowing down a lot faster

than what he is. And I believe Sha'Carri, she didn't need to be second out of the block, but she couldn't be dead last out of the block. And I think that was the difference in the race, because you get somebody like Julia Alpert, who's a strong runner, who can start exceptionally well, if you

spot her that much distance. I'm not saying you need to be second out of the block, but if you dead last and give up that much separation, you're not catching her. You're not catching her. It's the same thing, But you about to give me some nightmares, man. If Usain Bolt

had a Christian Coleman start and a Usain finish, I probably have to take up a whole other career, brother. But at the end of the day, when you look at Julian Alford and giving her praise, her track record speaks for it.

She's a two-time NCAA champion, the 102, 100 and the 200. Correct correct she is the indoor world champion just of this year and then she went into the finals one of the fastest times of the season so she knows how to get it done in championship uh environments so she ain't that kind of person that's just sitting there hoping that she gets on the podium she's coming to get to the top of that podium right that's what she's built like can i ask you this what do you think because if you look at a lot of these a lot of these runners shakari did not run after the trials julian alford ran no allows ran rob benjamin ran christian warhol ran alison dos sant Santos ran, Dem Cabal ran.

How much, because that's like a six-week lull in between when you're here to all of a sudden trying to ramp it back up in six weeks. Do you believe that played a role? I don't necessarily think so, only because I came from that same coaching system. I know Dennis is going to get you ready. He knows what's, he knows what's at stake and we train extremely hard, right?

To the point where it did give you nightmares. When I retired, my body felt better retired than it did when I was in the game of play. So we work hard, man. So I know that she was working hard and that moment meant everything, not only to her, but a whole training group. It meant into her whole circle, her coaching, her agency. They knew that this moment was there for them. So I think that she was prepared physically for that moment. It's just the fact that the moment was very big. Yeah, the moment was very big in that moment. This was a very seismic moment

for the small Caribbean island of St. Lucia with a population of under 200,000. Julianne Alfred just won the nation's first ever Olympic medal and is gold. Her time of 1072 is a St. Lucian national record that puts her in the top 10 all time. The margin of victory, the 0.15, the biggest winning margin in the women's 100-meter Olympic final since Shelly Ann Frazier Price won in Beijing in 2008. That's how dominant what Julian Alford just did. Let that sink in.

The biggest margin of victory in 16 years. We know, as far as women starting, ain't nobody had to start like the mommy rocket. Shelly Ann Frazier Price. But here's the thing. In order for you to beat Shelly Ann, for Elaine Thompson-Hara, she had to be close because she got that Flo-Jo clothing speed. She said, if I can just be close, I know at 50 meters, if I'm close, I'm going to come get you.

But if you're not close, a lot of those Jamaican women can get out the gate on you. I mean, we forget about Veronica Campbell Brown. We forget about Stewart. Ron Stewart ran 10-7. Stewart, the Jamaican

lady for Stewart. Obviously, Merlene Otte, Jalene Kirt. I mean, Jamaica has female sprinters. I mean, at the beginning, we just know about over the last, say, decade, we talk about Shelly Ann Frazier and we talk about Merlene Otte and we talk about some of the ones that we know. Cherika Jackson. Cherika Jackson started as a 400-meter runner, won the bronze medal,

dropped down, and now here she is, one of the fastest women in the world, the fastest, ran the second fastest time ever at the Worlds last year, 21.41, starting to challenge Flojo's record I think her record is what? 20, 21.33, 21.34 I think it's something like that.

So we know what the Jamaican women can do, but give Julianne Alford, Juju, she know what the Jamaican women can do, but give, give, uh, Julian Alford, Juju, she put on a show today and you watch the watch party, Justin, and you see the way that nation, man, you thought you was at a local bar and that was the hometown team playing in the Superbowl, uh, Ocho or the NBA final. The nation got behind that young lady. Ocho or the NBA Finals. The work that nation got behind that young lady.

Ocho, Shannon, I'm going to tell you right now. I like it. Watching her win. And how many people are in her country? Over 200,000? Less than 200.

Less than 200. You're talking about 7.9 billion people in the world. You understand? Yes. And when she goes home to train everyone in the country line up on the fence just to watch her do just do drills a skips and b

skips just to watch her train they'd have so much love for her wow she's she is one of those generational athletes that's going to help the next generation of female sprinters and male sprinters we have confidence to say i'm from a small island. I can get the job done too. I've done. Yeah. There's a video surfacing. Shelly Ann Frazier Price. This is her last Olympics. She let it be known

this is my last Olympics. I guess what's transpiring, Justin, if you don't ride the team bus, people are having issues getting in and it seems like shakari had that issue and shellyanne frazier price had the issue getting to the warm-up area uh and i guess when she got there late she ended up tweaking a hamstring i'm not really sure um you're in paris justin what have you heard was the run of the the reason

one of the reasons why Shelly Ann pulled out of this race? First of all, it started off that she had hamstring issues and then it started off that she wasn't let into the warm-up area. Now hearing that she had to ride the bus to be able to get into the warm-up area,

to me, bro, it's just ludicrous. First of all, in our sport, when you are a star, you come in with a private car because you dialed in. You focus. To get on that bus, sometimes that bus gets overpacked. There ain't no seats left. You got to sit on the floor. You know what I'm saying?

Just to get to ride for 20, 30 minutes on a bus where there ain't no air conditioning and to get to the stadium. Yes, it's a humbling experience. But when you are poised to win or you have one Olympic goal, there should be a different level of preparation for you. We know that you can get the job done. There's no reason why she should not

have been let into the warm-up area to get ready for her last 100 meters that we ever going to see. I feel like that was a shame to the fact of altering her preparation. And the legend that Mommy Rocket is, now we're going to look back at those channels on the internet and see that vacant lane, lane five, and there's no Mommy Rocket there. I feel like that hurt my heart, knowing that such a legend,

and y'all legends in your own right, imagine that they call your name out to come out on the field and you don't show up because you couldn't get what you need to get done. No. Olympics you do it. We couldn't get into the stadium. You couldn't get into the damn stadium. The Olympics should oblige those ones that we know that are gunning

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Listen now on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Ochoa with anticlimactic, the U.S. 4x4 mixed relay. Yesterday, Dwayne Dedman, Vernon Norwood, Shamir Little, and Brown. I forget Brown's first name. They set the world record in the 4x4 mixed relay. But today, the Dutch team, anchored by the legendary Femke Boll, ran a sub-48 closing split. She ran 47-93 and she tracked down the American to snatch gold.

Gold, yeah, I saw that. Justin, was it a mistake not to have Quincy Wilson? Because you took him over there and I don't get it. Now, he's run in the rounds at the trials. He ran sub 45 all three rounds.

His last meet, I think it was the Edwin Moses or the one in Florida. What's the guy? The Herdman. Mike Holloway. Holloway. Grant Holloway. Holloway Classic. He ran 4420, which is one of the fastest times in the world this year.

You say, well, he doesn't have world experience. Well, how the hell is he going to get it if you take him across the water and don't let him run? So what do you think was going to happen, Justin, if you let the kid run? He's going to all of a sudden blow up and run a 50? I don't think that's going to happen. So what do you think happened in the mixed relays

other than Femke Boll running that legendary anchor leg? So sources saying that the Quincy Wilson got injured you know I'm saying while he was at practice for the relay so if that's the case I hope he gets well soon he's had an amazing season first of all he's PR'd four times this season as a 60 year old he ran a whole uh youth season then he went to uh big boy trials you know i mean he went out there to olympic trials handled his business olympic trials made the relay team and then he went overseas to run races as well so he dropped that 44 20 which makes him the third fastest american this season and he ran strive for strive one of the fastest americans this whole season to be able to get that 44 20 and that means he's about the top five fastest times of the year throughout the world.

You understand? So, yeah, maybe his legs a little tired, but if he wasn't injured, there was no reason why you don't use this young athlete on the team. That gives other opportunity to be able to rest athletes that are critical in your finals. Right. So if you rested Bryce Dedman for the prelim, if you put Quincy Wilson in there, he's going to show out, and you're not going to have a real look of what the finals team USA is going to do in the finals.

Now you're kind of leaving everybody guessing what they look like. They broke the world record, which is bittersweet because they broke the world record at three minutes, seven seconds, world record at uh three minutes seven seconds and uh three minutes seven and 40 41 seconds was the world record they smashed right to win the gold was three minutes seven seconds point 43 so literally just a couple of hundreds of seconds away from breaking that world record or they could have got that olympic gold and that's the difference yep look justin you you ran you you had a a 15 year career at that level you was running sub damn near you and kim collins might be the only two that's ever run sub sub 10 and 40 years of age so you know the margins of victory. It's not like high school.

You're not going to be blowing these people out of the water. These people can run. And look, I get it. Like when you're running, you're in the moment and they stayed on the gas, the anchor leg.

I was listening to Richard Ross. She's like, she's still on the gas. I thought she would back off and save some in the tank there was no reason to break the world record because you break the world record in the prelims and you don't get gold people gonna be scratching your head was like damn did you did you leave some of that on the track the day before we oh so you know we talked like hey save some of them catches for

next week or save some of those baskets for next week. Don't use them all up right now. So if you're the coach of that team, what would have been your strategy, Justin, going into, hey, let's just win to make sure we qualify. We're not out for a world record. We just want to make sure we qualify. And then let's drop the hammer in the finals.

Well, I think right now it's kind of what the same thing is going on with the men's basketball. The world's catching up to you. The world's catching up to you. You have a lot of international athletes who come to America to get trained by American coaches at American institutes. So they're understanding the ideology that we have

when it comes to competing at a high level, right? But the thing is happening now is the fact of, if I was that relay coach, I would say, go out there, qualify. That's all we need to do. Qualify, get to that finals. Then you let loose. Get that goal and that world record.

Then you're going to catch everybody off guard. But now the fact of they gave Femkebal and Team Netherlands a look. You guys run in three minutes and seven seconds. Okay, cool. We're going to be ready for that when it comes to the finals. They came out with the same quartet. So they knew exactly what that order was gonna be they knew exactly how they were gonna run and of the and of the fact of you went and broke we have a little technical difficulties with uh with justin's mic he is in paris later so forgive

us and it's the wee hours of the morning, so we greatly, greatly appreciate Justin taking time out of his busy schedule, staying up late night with us to break down these races. I agree with you, but Paris, the difference is is that you see they brought Femke.

Now, is that 4790 going to take something out of her legs for 400? Because you know Cid. Cid wants to be, she's thought of right now, as the greatest 400-meter woman's hurdler in the history. There's something to be said about a two-time Olympic champ. Because for me, Justin, I believe this will be her last 400. I believe Bobby and her will focus on the open 400

to make her the greatest middle distance sprinter in the history. If she can win two goals in the Olympics, in the 400 hurdles, and the world, and then turn around and in the world championship, win the 400 goal, sitting up for 2028 to win the 400, it ain't even close. At the end of the day, you got to look at what Femke Ball's building. Femke Ball's building a campaign to show how great she is.

Yes, Sydney's chasing history. Femke Ball is chasing Sydney to history. But what's going to happen is Sydney can't make no mistakes in her race. She can't hit no hurdles. She can't stutter step. Femke Ball is going to be right there in that picture frame when it counts. Do I think that running that 44-7, to run that 47 in that mixed relays is going to tax Femke Ball? No.

She's trained for that this whole season. She's been running mixed relays from the world relays all the way through to now. So her body's ready for that. It's used to it. Mm-hmm. through to now so her body's ready for that it's used to it hey you know when i think when i think about it beat they they set the world record and then you come back and to gas out on the last you know the i'm assuming gas that you know that monk that monkey jump on your back which allowed the netherlands or holland for for that matter to close the gap where we weren't able to win goal.

Is there any other methods that you guys go through in preparation for after running a race like that to kind of recover a little bit faster outside of cold tub, ice tub, massages? Is there anything else you guys can do to kind of refresh your legs

after an event like that? Not necessarily. We do have the state-of-the-art trainers that come with us, you know, for Team USA. So everyone's on deck making sure these athletes are ready for the next event or the next round for the finals. So I think they're going to be in great hands. When you look at somebody like Phil Cabal,

she ran from fourth place to first place. That's hard to do already. If you're already in the lead, Team usa was already in lead by by a margin so for her to run people down one by one to get to the front what do you do the only thing you can do is you got to go into your arsenal and get a bigger gun you got to go get someone like tap sydney on the shoulder and say sydney we need you for this mixed relay we gotta see what we can do because now that's the only thing you really can do. Mm-hmm. Okay.

Yeah. It's going to be very interesting the women's 4x4 because, you know, Sydney normally runs like second or third leg. They might save Sid for that anchor leg

just in case it comes down to Femke and this thing's closed. Now, that's what I want to see. I want to see. I believe if Femke Bowe has anything less than a five-meter lead, Sid will go get her. I've seen Sid run open for 48.75 and not be pushed. I've seen her run 22.07 and really not be pushed.

I believe she can go. She might be the first since Metarina Colt in 85 to go below 48, Justin. Well, first of all, you're making my appetite for a competition kind of like spark right now, doctor. To watch Sydney run down Femke Ball in the finals of the women's 4x4 with five meter gap. Boy, that is going to be amazing to watch, man. Give it to five might be too much. Five might be too much. But here's the thing we've seen when people apply pressure to femca we saw in the world championship

we saw when the girl put that pressure and started to ease up on her we saw it tied her up you see it's easier to run from behind than it is the front justin you know this because you get to relax now all of a sudden because if she doesn't come back, ain't nobody saying nothing. Everybody say, well, man, look how far she had to come from. But when you in the front and you feel that pressure and that crowd. And they start standing and they start chomping at the bit. And you hear that crowd, you know, even if you don't look at the board, Justin, you hear it. You know it.

You can feel it. Now all of a sudden you're like, damn, my hamstring's starting to tighten up. Ooh, now you start running straight up. You start looking like Michael Johnson running. Ah, ah. Absolutely, boy. If they come out with the hood whoop in Paris during the Olympics, boy, I'm going to come out of retirement, boy. That's entertainment

right there for sure. Ah, that'd be dope. That'd be dope. That'd be dope. We look at Ryan Krauser. Three times he's the first man in history to win three consecutive shot putts. Win the shot putt three consecutive Olympics

with three gold medals in the Olympics. He's put it away on his first throw. I think he went 22.64 meters. And then he finished it off with a 22.90 meters. Not quite his world record, but he put it away early. So what Ryan Krause likes to do, he likes to get that big throw first. Come catch him if you can. Absolutely.

That's going to put pressure on the rest of the competition. If I put that big throw out there, then you ain't focused on how your technique is. you ain't focused on how you, your technique is. You ain't focused on what you and your coach been working on all year. You're trying to go get that gold medal. You're trying to get that mark. And at the end of the day, hey, that many people in the world has ever thrown that far before, except for Ryan Krause. So now your whole your whole game plan is all off tilt now. You know what I mean? So he knows what he's doing and he's doing it over and over and

over again the point is he needs to go ahead and clone himself so he can have some competition because right now he's running away with it yeah all the big all the big joe can consistently and this is the third straight olympic that the americans have gone one two in the shot put ryan krauser's one the last three. Joe Kovacs has been one of the silver medal. Joe's like, man, I don't know what the hell I... I don't know what I can do. Because we know at any given

moment, Ryan Krauser can unload a world record. A mythical world record that we thought... I'm old enough to remember, Justin, when Randy Barnes threw that world record, I think 75- 75 10 back at 88 and i was like ain't nobody ever gonna break that record and here and lo and behold we got a six foot five orgonian uh over 300 pounds and he's 76 and i mean he obliterated the record it wasn't a

couple of feet you know uh i think oof timmerman had the record before Randy Barnes broke it, but he's just, he's like you said, he's in a class by himself right now, throwing that 16 pound metal ball. You come across, you come across athletes like Ryan, Sydney, or are you saying they just say,

do your best, do your best. Let me ask, give us your preliminary. Do your best. Let me ask you. Give us your preliminary. What you think is going to happen in the 100 meter? We got the men. We got Noah Lyles. We got Kashane Thompson. We got Obelit Seville. We've

got Kenny Beneric. We got Fred Curley. We got the Italian that won the, I forget his name, Marcel Jacobs. Marcel Jacobs. Marcel Jacobs, who ran 980, but he has not been in that form since. He's been Nick all the way. You got Samir.

So you've got some guys that are right there, but seems to be the overwhelming favorite is Kashane Thompson. Since he laid down that 977 no allows dead running 981 which is a lifetime best again he's not the best starter the 200 meters is his best race because it gives him a chance to build up but ain't no building up in 100 meters no not at all i think what's gonna happen in this situation is kashane is right now is the favorite, right? On paper, for sure. When you watch him race and you watch him go through the rounds, I mean, you go through his practices and you see the videos, he looks like a rocket coming out the blocks. He looks strong. It gave me nightmares and I'm retired. You know what I mean?

So when you watch an individual like that, the only thing you can do is you got to turn it into a foot race. Noah Lyles got to turn it into a foot race. Fred Curley and the rest of the guys, they got to meet him at the 55 meter mark. When he goes and tries to take off, you got to go strive for strive with an individual like that.

Because someone like him, he doesn't need to run through the line. He shuts it down before he gets to the line. Show him something different. Go strive foride with him for the last 20 meters and see exactly what he's made of that's what you only gonna get on top of that podium if you run strive for stride and make him die uh die for that line that's where you're gonna see a different key shane but you gotta go and you gotta surprise him you gotta go strive for stride with half of them for half of the race to go and the funny thing about that when you when you mention that being able to go and you got to surprise him. You got to go strive for stride with half of the race to go.

And the funny thing about that, when you mentioned that, being able to go strive for stride, that means you got to get out with him too. So your foot speed, your turnover, your transition at the very beginning has to be that much better, that much faster than what you used to run it. And then when you factor in the pressure situation because of who you're running with, the nervousness, the butterflies. Obviously, I've never been in that position, but I'm thinking about the nervousness when it was just time for me just to play a regular game on Sunday. So I could imagine in Paris at the Olympics, you know, representing your country, it got to be not the worst feeling, but such an adrenaline rush where you want to perfect all the work you put in for the last four years to a T and perfect it to a science. And the fact that you have someone that's ran nine,

seven, and that's in the back of your mind. I, it has to be, it has to be. And I'm excited. I'm excited to see it. And,

and hopefully you really, there's nothing, it's not like magic. You can't just change your routine. You can't change the technique. It just, you, like you said, you got to show them something different. Well, I'm going to make sure that I'm watching. I'm hoping we can do it.

I'm hoping. I think we have a good shot at it. You know, those guys, when you look at Fred Curley, you know, he's built with a lot of grit. He loves to be able to have that adversity, you know what I'm saying, to go through. And when you look at someone like Noah Lyles, he's a showman. He's kind of like a Usain Bolt. When the pressure's on and the lights turn on know i'm saying to go through and when you look at someone like no allows he's a showman he's kind of like a usain bolt when the pressure is on and lights turn on i'm gonna give you my best i'm gonna show up and i'll show out so i think team usa has an arsenal to go out there and upset you know i'm saying key shane but key shane is the enigma no one's ever seen him in the championship no one's ever seen him no one hasn't really raced against

him either so now it's a whole new look so when that gun goes off your heart gonna be right beating very fast because this is somebody you've never raced against or you've never had an opportunity to watch film on really so you got to go out there and just run light pole to light pole like back in it hey i like that like i think the thing you said something very interesting uh justin i remember my coach uh i was running the uh i was running third leg of the uh the 400 meters in the relay and uh the guy he ran the open four and he had done got out and you know because you know back then we could switch the stagger it wasn't like okay you pilsen in to run the third leg the second leg anchor leg we was moving people around according so coach like hey coach switched us around i was

supposed to be the anchor because it was going to be too far out of hand and so he told me to go to third leg and so i was like coach what you want me to do he said sucker you got to put him to the test. Make him run. Make him run. Don't let him relax. So what I did is that I ran and I pulled up beside him. So now he got to go. He's got to run faster than he thought he was going to have to run. But I said, oh, it's just something told me. I said, I'm going to stay here as long as I can.

Because I'm going to see how I can be uncomfortable longer than you can, bro. Because I know what I've done. But we're going to see. When we got to the curve, I said, I should go. I said, no, I'm going to sit right here. I'm going to sit right here on him. Because he didn't know I was there. He kept looking.

He kept glancing. Once I saw him glance that last time, I said, I got it. When we pulled out. You hit it. we had that last 80 i looked over at him i put the baton i put a i put the baton in his face i told you i turned it over to the ankle leg and we brought it home but that's the thing what you're saying about what they're gonna have to do to kashane you gotta put him to the test if you let him be sky free at 50 meters you're not gonna be able to touch him you gotta make him run those first 50 meters because noah had the top end speed

that if i'm with you for 50 meters or i'm gonna step behind you at 50 i can bring it home absolutely and that's what it's gonna take take. It's going to take that grit. You know what I mean? You got to put up, you got to put question in his mind or doubt in his mind when you strive for stride when he be like,

oh man, I ain't running 9-7. I must be running 9-9 or something like that because you right next to me. But in reality, you are running 9-7, but I am too

because I'm with you. Right. Tobogo, the Botswanan, he's run, he's run, what, hasn't he run like 9.8? He's run

9.8 this year. There's a Kenyan that's run 9.79. So there have been some, there are a couple of guys that are in the 100-meter field, Justin, that's run a faster time than Noah's lifetime best.

Kashane 9.77. I forget the guy from Kenya. He's run best. Kashane 977. I forget the guy from Kenya. He's run 979. Ferdinand Omayala, yep. Yes, yes. So there are some guys in there. But here's the thing, and you know this.

Every Olympic, we saw Osafa Powell come to the line with the fastest time in the world leading into the Olympics. And every time, he ain't getting on the podium. So just because you got the fastest time over there in Paris or the Diamond League or whatever the case may be, your trials, can you run that time when it matters? Remember, the mark of any great offense or defense, can you do what you need to get done when you have to get it done?

Well, can you run 9-7 in the Olympic final? In a big stage. Can you run 9-7-9 in the Olympic final? Because if you can't, that's going to be the difference in the ballgame, Justin. It is. Absolutely. When you think about these countries like Jamaica, those athletes carry a lot of pride. But also what comes with that pride is pressure

because they put that whole country on their back. Yes. So, you know, that's what you got to placate to. You got to placate to, all right, you got that pride. You're going to show up. But what about that pressure? Is that pressure heavy? We're going to test that pressure.

And that's what Team USA has to do. They got to test that pressure. And the rest of the field got to do that too because that's what it's really going to take. Because at the end of the day, right now on paper, it's Keyshane's all the way. But it's going to take a real person to step up to that starting line and finish first. He's going to have to have the start of his life. Yes.

He's going to have to start. He's going to have to have the start of his life. His best start, his reaction time. I'm not saying he needs to be Christian Coleman. But he's going to have to have the start of his life, his best start, his reaction time. I'm not saying he needs to be Christian Coleman, but he's going to have to have the start of his life. Because the thing is, if you let Kashawn get out there and relax, you know a relaxed runner is a dangerous runner, Justin. It is.

And that's what he was able to get to the lead in the Olympic trials. And that's why he can sit it down. Because he knows once he got to the front, he knows a Balik Saville don't have that kind of top-end speed to challenge him. He knows none of those other guys have the top-end speed to challenge him. So now he can just sit down. I can relax. Justin, you know the guy

when they got that lead? Oh, good lord, look at that stick. That's how he looked in the prelims. He looked up at the screen. He's just running half in the prelims, but he looked up at the screen. He's just running half of the race, just running, looking up at the screen, but relaxed, relaxed. And as soon as somebody pulled up on him and put him to the test.

Yep, got to tighten up. Okay, let's take a look at the women's 200 meters. The favorite hasn't been running well this year. I don't know if she's an injured, Sharika Jackson. She pulled out of the 100 meters. She's like, her and her coach decided the favorite hasn't been running well this year i don't know if she's an injured sharika jackson she pulled out of the 100 meters she's like her her and her coach decided that the best the best chance for her to win a medal the gold medal within the 200 but i don't know has she been under 22 this year she hasn't looked like the sharika jackson that ran 21-41 at the World Championship. And Eugene, obviously, Gabby Thomas has been amazing.

When you break this race down, what are you looking at? What's going to surprise you? What's going to be the difference? If Shereka is healthy, is she the favorite? If Shereka is healthy and we know how Shereka can run, in my mind, she's a favorite. She gets the job done. In the last couple of years, it wasn't about her winning. It was about her chasing that world record, that Flojo record.

She's the closest one to get to it. So I think that confidence is at a different level. You know what I mean? She's become a world champion. She knows what it takes to be a champion. So the byproduct is the gold medal. The fact is, I want to go after that world record. You know what I mean?

So I think a healthy Sharika could get the job done, but if it's a not healthy Sharika, and I'm only reading through the words of listening to her press conferences. And when you talk about preserving your energy or your health, you know what I mean? Just to see if I have an opportunity to win just in the 200, not over the hundred. And we know she could do damage in both. She's ran 1060 in the, in the hundred. So she's one of the fastest females in the world, bar 100. And we know she could do damage in both. She's ran 1060 in the 100. So she's one of the fastest females in the world, bar none. So we know that she can get the job done there. I think that she's buying time for her and whatever her little knickknack injuries may be to be able to make sure that she's at least close to 100% as possible when she goes out there for

that 200. But at the end of the day, you cannot count out Gabby. Gabby has shown that she can get the job done. She does it with grace. She does it with poise. It almost shows like a 2.0 of Alison Felix. She glides and she prances across that track, but she powers it home. That last 50 meter, that's where Gabby's dangerous at. Her last race that she just ran, she wasn't even in first place with 20 meters to go.

And she surged on them. She ran down Julian Alford and Anita. That's what I'm talking about. And Julian Alford just ran 10-7. So that tells you exactly what Gabby has up her sleeve for this 200. She in shape and she ready. Yeah. That's going to be a good one.

Ocho, obviously the man. Noah is the overwhelming favorite. But De the overwhelming favorite, but DeGrasse, he won it last. He won it the last Olympic cycle. You have Kenny Benary. He pushed Noah all the way to the line. You got

Arian Knighton, the American, that's run 1960. You got Benary that's run 1959. You got DeGrasse that's run 1960. You got Bannera that's run 1959. You got DeGrasse that's run 1962. You got Noah Lyles

that's run 1931. Handicap this race. Noah, that's his baby. He loves that 200. That's where he thrives at, right? He's ventured into the world at 100 meters,

and he's been successful so far. But that baby is his 200. That's where his pride and his ego lies. He can't lose. Since he got that bronze medal in 2021, he's never lost a 200 meter since then. He's been... so he's gonna come out ready to roll no matter what happens i think we uh we froze a little bit there we go before that before that

you looking at Arian Dine got the fresh legs. Arian Dine got the fresh legs. He hasn't run this season. He's only ran to test tricks up his sleeve. He always has tricks up his sleeve. Every champion is a more mature athlete than he's ever been in his life right now. He's poised and ready. I think he's going to do damage in that 100 meters. And I think he has his name on that

podium for that 200 meters. So I think it's going to be a tight race. It's actually going to be... We have a little technical difficulties with Noah, excuse me, with Justin Gatlin. Remember guys, he is in Paris. There is a

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or wherever you get your podcasts. When I look at Kenny, are you surprised that Kenny Benerick was able to drop down to 100 meters and have the level of success? We saw Fred. Fred came down from the four all the way down to 100 meters and have the level of success we saw fred fred came down from the four all the way down to one i don't know if kenny kenny might have ran some four i'm sure he did in high school and maybe in college when you have that kind of speed they throw hell you probably ran some 400 meters in high school in college they throw your ass out of you that fast but are

you surprised the level of success that kenny benerick has been able to have in the 100 meters after not really running 100 meters say the first five six years of his career especially on the international level no not at all actually I trained with Kenny before I retired so I watched him compete you know I know that he has I know he has that go but he has his acceleration is unmatched it's the fact that he needs to make sure his timing at the end of his races is there same thing with Fred Curley I was the first one to race Fred Curley when he dropped down from the 4 to the 100.

And he beat me in 100 meters. I was like, oh man, it's a 400 meter runner. I ain't got nothing to worry about, boy. I could not drop him off at the 50 meter mark. He was still with me and he beat me. I was like, I told the world, yo, watch out, man. Fred Curley ready, boy. And he went on to become a world champion. So when you look at guys

like that, they're poised to do great things across the board from the four all the way down to the 100. They have that talent. So if you had to handicap this race and you pick it, who do you think's on the podium in the 200? I'm going to go Noah Kinney.

I think it's going to be American Sweet. I'm going to go Noah Kinney Arian think it's going to be American Sweet. I'm going to go Noah Kinney, Aryan. Wow. Yeah. I'm trying to think. When was the last time we swept the 200 meters? Do we have to go back to 84? For Olympics?

Probably do. Yeah. We probably do. We have to go back far, man. Because I think that was the year. Who was it? Was it Carl Lewis? I think Kurt Baptiste and Thomas Jefferson.

I think it was Mike Marsh. I think it was Mike Marsh in there. In 84? Are you sure he was? Mike Marsh? That's a little bit. Yeah, that's a little earlier than Mike Marsh. I think Mike Marsh might have been like 92 or something.

Right. But it was a sweep. I think Thomas Jefferson. Because Joe DeLoach. Joe DeLoach was 88. I think Joe DeLoach. I don't know why I want to say that. You know what?

It was 88. Because I think 84 was a boycott year. That was a boycott year. No, 80 was the boycott year. 80 was a boycott year. No, 80 was the boycott year. 80 was the boycott year was in Moscow because the Soviet invaded Afghanistan. And so the Russians repaid us the favor when it was in

84 when it was in LA. So they repaid us the favor after we boycotted their asses in 1980. But I know we as a matter of fact, hell, we might have swept 100 meters too because I know Sam Grady

Carl won Dada you're a Tennessee alum like yourself he went to Northside Atlanta and I think Ron Brown might have got the bronze we might have swept both of them I think that was it that was 100 meters got the bronze. We might have swept both of them.

I think that was it. That was 100 meters. Don't look that up. I was a sophomore in high school and I remember that then. The relay. Look, we had three women

in the fight. We got silver and bronze. Gabby, so Sha'Carri will probably run anchor. It'll probably be the same team that won the world and ran one of the fastest time in the history of the women's relay. So Gabby will probably anchor. No, Sha'Carri will anchor. Gabby will run third leg because she can run the turn like no other

tt terry who made the olympic finals in the 100 meters she'll run uh she'll run the second leg and jefferson will get out the gate for us if we could ain't no reason we shouldn't challenge the world record and win the gold you know who you sound like right now shannon you sound like you sound like my co-host on Ready, Set, Go. He said, the women, the 4x1, they about to break the world record, man. It's theirs to lose, to be honest, man. I mean, if you look around now,

usually our formidable opponent is Jamaica. And right now, they're pretty dismantled. When it comes to Noe Lane, Sharika's probably injured, and then we don't know exactly what's going on with Shellyann. No Shellyann. So we have to see exactly.'s going on with Shelly Ann. No Shelly Ann.

So we have to see exactly. Team USA has it right there. It should be an easy win for them. And it should be a world record for them. But that world, I mean, the baton is going to have to be perfect. Because that 48, that 40.82. I mean, think about what they obliterated the word i mean they didn't they didn't creep past the world records justin they blew it out of the water they went sub 41 which and women

nobody thought that was even possible for women to go sub because the russians had that i think the russians or the east germans had that record for damn near 30. That's who it was. It was the Germans. Yep. Yep. And so nobody thought sub 41. They're like, okay, yeah, somebody will probably get 40. I think the world record

at the time was 4130. And somebody's like, well, somebody probably run 4125. To go from what they were running to 40.82? Listen,

when you think about it, those three women that they trained together, T.T. Terry, Melissa Jefferson, and Sha'Carri Richardson. Iron sharpens iron. They train together, they know how to get the job done, and they not happy with the result from the

100. You know what I mean? So they gonna come back to make sure they get their goal and seal that deal. And what's the better way to seal the deal? Make sure you get a goal and a world record with it too. Mmm. I like it. So, see,

there's a question. Where are the best sprinters from? Are they from Florida? Are they from Texas? Are they from California? Seems like Virginia says, hey, we're raising our hand.

Georgia say, hey, throw us in the mix. What state produces the best i'm gonna tell you just like this texas makes the most fast runners but florida makes the best fast runners for whatever reason when you have a sprinter from florida they the best in the world boy kristen miller xavier carter myself's different, man. It's different. We could be one of one.

Aery Knighton. One of one, bro. We don't need a whole arsenal of sprinters. We just need one or two. We good. We going to take over the world. But Jeff, I don't know if people realize this. You started out as a hurdler, as a 110-meter hurdler, and dropped down. Whyler and drop down why did you drop down i just had extra talent my high school coach realized that i was the fastest sprinter but i also could hurdle so you know how

it is with team you got to score them points you try to get all the points you can so he's like why are we trying to fight each other for the same points we're gonna throw him in the hurdles so that's how i actually got my start that's actually how i got to college once i got to college i told my coach i could sprint too so we had a private practice he saw me sprint he kind of shook his head like okay okay he's like all right man you ain't no you ain't no hurdle no more and then from there i went on to win six ncaa titles the first thing i said to him was like hey coach i'm from Florida. He's like, oh, yeah, you can sprint. So let me ask you a question. Obviously, what are the typical track practice like for 100 meter, 200 meter runner? I mean, I mean, if you think about it, we have we have stages to get to that point of elite sprinting.

So from November to about January, that's all of our endurance phases from january on to about uh i'll say uh beginning of march that's our sprint endurance phase and then from march all the way to like may that's our speed total speed phase so we doing 500 repeats in our endurance phase we're doing exactly with two minutes. How much rest time in those 500? How much rest time? You got to come through and hit it about a minute 50. And then when you cross the line,

you got two minutes rest before you hit the next one. And you got to hit, you got to hit six of them. Oh my goodness. Yeah. It's different, bro. Hey, you come across the line, fight to get across that line.

That's how you be looking. How many? You said five? Yeah. You're going to do two. And then you got to back it up. No, you got to do 500, two minute rest, 500. Then you get six minutes rest and you got to repeat the process two more times.

So you got six of them. Oh, hell. Oh, hell no. Yeah. Yeah. I want to, you know, my daughter, she run at university kentucky she runs a four and eight you think she has to do that that's they have that same process now is it as is it as complex as you guys or no is she still running 800 yeah my if she's still running 800 she's gonna

have some workouts on it she's gonna have a lot of broken a lot of broken 400s for sure that's what she's gonna have for sure for sure. For real? But, yeah. But if you're getting ready for that speed endurance phase, that speed endurance phase is going to be a lot of repeat 100s. What's up? There you go, Jay. What's up, girl? You good?

Yes, I'm good. All right. We talk about your workouts for this season. So, it's because I saw, what's the guy uh hudson smith and i think stevie gardner little stevie uh the bahamian he's the he's the reigning olympic champ and they had six repeaters of 200 meters so you had to come through in 26 seconds and you got two minute rest so you come through in 26 you got two minute rest and you got to do that six times yeah yeah that's our grueling where you got to put that work in so you can sustain that that that uh that endurance all the way through your season

you know what i mean so you don't want to get out then get that one off it's like it's like watching the rounds of the olympics right now you can a one-off well, but you need to have that energy for the prelims, semis, and you've got to be able to show up in that finals. Right. And as you go, and as you go, like the 400, it's even more grueling because you got the opening round, then you got the semis, and now you got, and now it ain't no more, like, it ain't no more jogging

because everything is a sprint now. I watched them guys run the 10K, the 10,000 meters, and they basically running every lap at a minute. 100%. Everything is a sprint. It ain't no more, hey, I'm going to build up. I'm going to pace it. And then I'm going to strike at the end.

Ain't no more pacing. Ain't no more striking at the end. You're going from the gun. Everything is a sprint. You're going from the gun. That's what it is. You got to go out there. The level of competition has risen in track no more striking at the end. You're going from the gun. Everything is a sprint. You're going from the gun. That's what it is. You got to go out there. The level of competition has risen in track and field world across the board.

That's correct. So let me ask you this, Justin. You're in the finals. You done gone through your warm-up. You've talked to your coach. You've got your last-minute instructions. Now you're up under the stadium, and they're getting ready to bring you guys out.

What's going through your mind as you're getting ready to run, as you're getting ready to walk out and you know the premier event in all the Olympics and all the track and field is the 100 meter. And you know if someone has television, that race is on. What's going through justin gatlin's mind

as he's getting ready to come out under this from under that stadium and take that track for nine seconds i'm a gamer man i'm a gamer so i'm itching to get out there i want to get because what happens is we sitting in the call room the call room probably as big as a walk-in a large very large walk-in closet probably 20 by 20 so you imagine the elite athletes the best fastest man in the world they're all sitting shoulder to shoulder in this quiet little room until one individual walks in there they say y'all ready to go then you stand up you grab your bag you get single file line and you walk into that stadium and then as you walk in it gets dim but then the whole stadium opens up you can smell the energy you can smell the energy because guess what everybody sees you walk out and they look at you and you know what time it is so for me

my mentality is this is what i've been waiting for i'm ready to get on that track i'm ready to tear these people apart i'm ready to go out here And put on a show Because all that work I did All them 500s and everything I did I ain't gonna let it I ain't gonna let it be in vain I gotta go out here

And show out Especially And when you win At a championship It's usually Across seas Over somewhere else In the world right

So you're gonna get A lot of dominant European flags Flying around People from other countries It'll always be that one little american flag flapping for someone from iowa something like that you never met before in your life you know what i mean and they just waving that flag just to go baby that's where

your energy's at you look at them you point to them you be like all right i'm doing that for you and then once that moment happens you're getting that that blocks, gun goes off, you got to haul ass, man. That's what you do for that pride. That's loud. I mean, Justin, your start, that's what you were known for. Your start, that drag, you and Kristen, where that toe is basically scraping the top of the track. It is.

Unk your foot. Unk your foot. Unk your foot. Man, man. Tuck your arms in. Your arms all out here, man. No, no, no. No, I'm just saying. No, I'm talking about the top of his foot.

Yeah, but I'm saying. You were doing the example. You had your arms all out here, man. Tuck your arms. One example. You got to go ear to pocket. So when you're doing that and you're like, do you know when you have a great drive, do you know like, oh, this it feel perfect? Oh, yeah. You know when you hit it, when that gun goes off and you leave the block, you're like, ah, I hit that one.

Just like that. You know it. The first two steps, hit it. Yeah. And you just start accelerating. You're like, yeah. Especially when you're low, you can look behind you almost and see everybody. Like, oh, all right, got them, boy.

They done. They done. So, at what point in time, how many steps are you going before you like okay i keep my head because for really like mo green was really the first one that he stayed i mean he stayed he kept his head down and then all of a sudden it was like a swimmer all of a sudden he popped up on top of the water you know like michael philp when he go down and they stay up underwater and all of a sudden he pop up it's like Mo Green was really like the first one that we really noticed. I mean, Ben Johnson, Ben Johnson did it also.

But we're going to talk about being. But but Mo, but how many steps are you counting your steps as? OK, one, two, three, four, five. OK, here I go. You don't necessarily have to count your steps. I use actually places p uh places on the track as a point of reference so if i get to that point of reference it's almost like 13 14 steps so if i get to that point i know i could eyeball where 30 meters is i know i gotta drive

to there once i once i come across that that that piece of line whatever that color on the track i can say all right this is when i start to come up and start moving because you can't you gotta have your blinders on when you're in your drive phase you can't be looking around all the place that's where your real focus is once you come out that drive phase you go in that transition everything's a blur and then that's when you start to come into your competition phase once you get to that top end speed and then you can look around and say okay this is where everybody is oh that's live man how. How many steps did it take you to run 100 meters? 41 steps.

You saying was 40 steps. Wow. So me and him were the longest striders. You looking at the average elite athletes taking about 43 steps to 44 steps. Yeah, I was doing 44 in high school too, right? Yeah. Man.

That's crazy. Bro. That's moving. Hey, make sure you guys go follow Justin on IG at Justin Gatlin. Twitter too. Twitter. Justin Gatlin on Twitter.

At Justin Gatlin on Twitter on Twitter also, he has a podcast what's your podcast called Justin? Ready Set Go Ready Set Go all things track obviously you're talking about a guy that's one of the greatest sprinters not only just in American history but all the world, in all time history

he's an Olympic champ, he's a world champ he's an NCAA champ he's a high school champ He's an NCAA champ. He's a high school champ. And when you talk about sprinting, what better way to get information than somebody that's done it? Not talk about doing it. He's actually done it

on an extremely high level. You want to talk about this pole vault? Huh? Nah. Justin Poole. Oh. Yeah. Justin oh yeah hey Justin we really appreciate

Ocho and I and Nightcap family we really appreciate you staying up late at night giving us your expertise on what transpired today in the women's 100 meter final obviously to go over what's going to transpire what possibly transpired in the men's 100 meters and the 200,

as well as the women's 200 meters. We didn't get to the 400. Stevie Gardner's trying to repeat. Only Michael Johnson is the only man in the history of the Olympics to ever repeat the 400 meters, and we've had some great ones. Lee Evans didn't do it. Jeremy Warner didn't do it. Wade Uh, Lee Evans didn't do it. Jeremy Warner didn't do it. Um,

uh, um, way. Van Neekert didn't do it. Uh, the Sean Merritt didn't do it. See, no,

I mean, think about it. Only Michael Johnson is the only man in history to ever repeat the 400 meters. And so Stevie, Stevie Garner, a little steep, a little Stevie

is trying to do something only one other man in the history of the Olympics has ever been able to do to repeat the 400 meters as the Olympic champion. Oh, yeah.

So hopefully we can get you back on here and we can recap the men's 100 meters, 200 meters, and possibly the 400 meters. So, bro, I really appreciate you

stopping by, taking time with us today, man. Best of luck. Safe travels from Paris, and we'll catch up with you soon, bro. I appreciate it, man. I'll be looking in the mail for my nightcap shirt, man. I love both of them. I need both of them, man. I got you.

Text, ask your address. T-shirt. T-shirt. t-shirt, short. You ain't gonna put them shorts on. Boy, give me them shorts right there. They too small for you

already now. My size. I don't even know if you can fit me. Can you fit me, Justin? It's Hoochie Daddy summertime, man.

Hoochie Daddy shorts, man. That's my shorts right there. We got you. we got you covered bro hey just appreciate it get some rest man and enjoy the uh enjoy the rest of the uh the events uh the rest of the while you're over there man really appreciate it appreciate it i'll talk to y'all later man that's uh justin gatlin um o champion, 100 meters, world champion, 100 meters, 200 meters, and the NCAA champ, taking time out of his schedule to bring us some expertise.

Guys, what we try to do is that we try to bring you guys the best information that we possibly can. Yeah, Ocho and I can talk about it but you know i i say you know what how about i just go ahead and reach out and see if you're willing to come on and uh he was willing to come on and uh and we greatly greatly appreciate that go ahead uh oh who's this oh two world records have been sent huh what okay the french pole vaulter pole gets him bounced from the heat we can we can't show it but i know you saw the video he goes up fine but when he's coming down um something ends up knocking the bar off. What happened?

Yeah, yeah, yeah, that. Oh, you're talking about old buddy? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, buddy. That's messed up. That's messed up. That's messed up. That's crazy for something like that to happen.

Obviously, God bless you, and then those blessings mess up you at the olympics and now you're going home yeah well he might need to try another olympic the porn olympics he might he might be great now with ocho hey but but his day his day at the pole voting is over thanks to that mishap yeah that, that's messed up, man. That's crazy. Yeah, it was I guess when they said track and field meet, he didn't he left one of the E's out.

Oh, yo, he left one of the E's out. I'm sorry, y'all. Pause, pause. Two world records have been set in the past two days. In the mixed 4x4 meter relay, Vernon Norwood, Shamir Litter, Kalen Brown, and Bryce Dedman set the world record with a time of 3 minutes, 7 seconds, 3 minutes, 7.41 seconds,

3 minutes, 7 seconds,.41. And that was yesterday in the prelims as we mentioned earlier they ended up losing the gold medal uh but because they did break the world record and i said any american that breaks a world record so as a matter of fact bernard norwood hit me in the dm he and ash has already exchanged information and so over the next several days, we're going to get the mixed relay team of Vernon Norwood, Shamir Little, Kalen Brown, and Bryce Dedman. We're going to all get them on here.

And so they do have 50,000 coming their way to be split 12-5 to each individual. Congratulations. Congratulations. Congratulations. I wish you guys could have pulled it off. But hey, I'm a man of my word. We're going to get that done. And in swimming, Nick Fink, Gretchen Walsh,

Torrey Husk, and Ryan Murphy brought home the gold for Team USA in the 100-meter mixed relay and set a new world record in the process. So congratulations, USA. Two world records. One in a gold medal winning performance, the other in a silver performance. But hey, we're proud of any medals.

We're proud of our men and women that went over there and represented the U.S. very, very well. So thank you guys again for your hard work, all that, and everything. I wish I could have went over there to represent us in something. I know I'm old. I'm not sure what I could have done competitively.

Yeah, but man, man. Nothing? What? I could have went over there to represent us and something. I know I'm old. I'm not sure what I could have done competitively. Like, yeah, but man, man. Nothing. What? Like, listen to Justin. Listen to Justin explain being in that room with all the sprinters and they call you. And then you go into the stadium and it's dim and then it opens up. Oh, man.

Oh, that feeling, man. Remember that feeling, man, coming out the locker room? Yeah, the stadium. Yeah, man. Oh, that feeling, man. Remember that feeling, Unc, man, coming out of the locker room? Yeah, the stadium, yeah, yeah. I mean, yeah. I mean, yeah, absolutely. They got to be one of the best feelings, man. Can you get better than that? The Super Bowl, you walking out there, and they're getting ready to introduce your name,

and you're standing on the sideline, and that stealth bomber ends up flying over at the end of the national anthem, and you see it. And then it goes over. And then when it's past you, now you know you hear that rumble. Oh, that was crazy. Just thinking and visualizing that, man.

That's got to be the greatest feeling, man. Oh, yeah. So how many more days? We still got a week left, right? Because it doesn't end until what? Next Sunday? Next Sunday. Okay. The Volume Wake up with football

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