Club Shay Shay - Nightcap - Hour 1: Kirk Cousins monster night, Davante Adams drama, Lamar and Henry best duo in NFL

Episode Date: October 4, 2024

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson are hyped over Kirk Cousins’ franchise-record breaking night for the Atlanta Falcons in an overtime win against Baker Mayfield and the Tampa Bay Bucs on Thursday Night Football. Later, Unc and Ocho discuss Davante Adams needing to reunite with Aaron Rodgers, Baltimore Ravens Lamar Jackson and Derrick Henry being the scariest backfield duo in the NFL and much more!03:18 - Show Starts10:00 - Falcons v Bucs22:42 - Raiders/Davante Adams38:20 - Fowler report on Diggs52:47 - Jamar Chase on Lamar and Derrick Henry58:55 - Rashee Rice on IR01:05:19 - Club Shay Shay Scammers(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Thanks to first cousin, Kirk. First cousins through 45 yards to Kaderah Hodge. A 45 yard walk off touchdown. Cousins, a Falcons franchise record. Yeah. 509 yards. Young Way Co. No, no, no, no, no, no. That's not his name. Say his name right. That is his name. That's his name. No, it's Young Way.

He's Korean. He had a 52 yard game time field goal as time expired. And then Cousins did his thing. 46 yards, he did, Cousins needed 46 yards just over a minute without any timeouts to get him in field goal range. He got him down there, they killed a clock with one second on the clock.

And Young-Way after having one block, after missing two, he missed one early in the game. Oh yeah. Yeah. But the bus lined up off side got another opportunity. It missed that one. This time we walked out there. Cause remember last week he kicked a 58 yard walk-up

to win the game. This time game time field goal. And after the Falcons won the coin toss, first cousins hit Kaderra hard 45 yards touchdown on the fourth place from scrimmage and overtime as the Falcons win it. And if I'm not mistaken, they're in the lead in that division, if I'm not mistaken. So check that for me, see if they're leading the NFC South. But what a well of a ballgame. Both quarterbacks played exceptionally well.

Baker Mayfield was dealing. I think I think it threw touchdowns to, uh, uh, uh, Mike Evans, but they were playing very well, seemed to be in control of the ball game, especially after cousins threw an interception and Levante David picked it off. You thought, okay, but the Falcons said, Oh no, hell no, we won't go. Hell no, we won't go. And they keep them out of the end zone. They sack bake and they push them back. And the rest is as we say is history.

Ocho, you said it was a very exciting ball game. We love what you witnessed. What are some of your takeaways from this ball game? This might've been the best Thursday night game I've seen in a while, especially from both teams. Offensively, listen, the goddamn Bucks in the first half, they scored on three of the first four series when they had the ball.

Obviously getting the field goal in that fourth series. And I thought they were at some point, I thought they were going to run away with it, but hell, here come Kirk Cousins, that goddamn offense, Kyle Pitt, Drake London, B. John Robinson continue to deal and kept themselves in the game. So to me, I felt, especially from a stat line perspective, but damn, hold on now, if the Bucks win this game, you look at Kirk Cousins stat line and what he put in the numbers he put up, which were a record by the way, ain't no way in hell they had opportunity to win or had a chance to win with him putting up numbers like that. Listen, I think tonight, tonight's game for Drake London was a coming

out game for Drake London. Kyle Pitts. Finally, he's been you. They got him involved. Yes. Yes. He's been you. He's being used the. Yes. Yes. He's been you he's being used the right way I would love to see them get B John Robinson. I love to see them get B John Robinson A little bit more effective and efficient in the run game, but he put up he put up a few numbers a day Yeah, you 12 for 61 5.1 yards a carry. Yeah, it did pretty good. Yeah Yeah, along with 28 Al Jarratt was only six or 12. So they had 18 rushes, 73 yards. They didn't run the ball because like you said, Tampa Bay had to leave pretty much

all night. So they were in a situation where they needed to throw cousins with 42 or 58, five Oh nine, five or four touchdowns, one interception. He was sat four times, but he was undeterred. Yeah. Hell, he could have had more if Mooney could have just held on to the ball. Yeah. Mooney. Oh, Joe, how many third downs? Yeah.

Mooney had about maybe two or three balls that he dropped that cousins. Damn, they're close to six on the yards passing, but at least close to the record. The record is the flying Dutchman. Norman Brocklin. He threw for five fifty four. Oh, that's the record. Oh, he broke that tonight.. Oh, that's the record. Oh, he'd have broke that tonight. He would have probably broke that night, but listen, kudos to Kurt Cousins.

Man, he was dealing, especially coming off that, coming off that goddamn Achilles injury. You don't know what you're going to get. You don't know what you're going to get from your quarterback. But I said it, if you can, if you, if you can remember, I said it when they get Kurt Cousins, if there's one thing I know about him, when it comes to the regular season, he's going to be willing and dealing. And I said, Kyle Pitts and Drake London, they're going to look completely different in that office with him at the helm.

And that's exactly what they look like so far this year. But even though the Bucks lost, man, kudos to Bacon Mayfield and goddamn Miss Consistency, that goddamn Mike Evans, man. Yeah, that goddamn. Yeah, well, you the real deal. I know you're going to see this, but you the real deal, man. But congratulations to the Falcons fans. This was a very, very, very good division game tonight. Very good division game.

But the thing is, Ocho, is that if you let Kirk Cousins sit his damn feet. Oh yeah. He gonna light you up. Oh yeah. You gotta pressure him and you gotta keep pressuring him and you gotta make him see goals. Yeah. They got him a couple of times. A few times. They did. Yeah. But man, if you let him, he is a prototypical pocket quarterback. Now he had a little athleticism. It's marginal at best now with that Achilles injury. So you better heat him up. You

better move him off his spot. Yeah. But if you just let him be back there, eight yards behind the line of scrimmage, and he could just do this, he gonna get you now. He gonna get you. And he got guys that can go get it. He got Mooney, he got London, he got Kyle Pitts. As we saw, B. John Robinson can catch the ball out of the backfield.

They got guys, they got weapons. The defense just need to do a great job of allowing those weapons. Don't let them get too far in front of you. But this team, the Falcons, I like it. And I love Raheem. I love the way he's coaching these guys. He's got them playing.

This offense looks really, really good. They got guys, they got weapons, old show. They got weapons on that side of the football. It's amazing how those weapons that they do have look completely different now that there's a quarterback and no disrespect to the quarterbacks that came before. Man, that was terrible. Hanukki and Ritter was bad.

I'm not so sure Ritter is even in the league right now. That goes to show you. The guy was starting. The guy was starting, Ocho, if you're a starting quarterback in the NFL and one year later, you're under the age of 28 and you're out of the league That's not a good sign and it's okay. He wasn't very good. It's okay to say that We're not bashing it. Just look at the resume right just look at the way he played He turned them all over too much.

Well, I'm going to let you have that on. You can say you can say that. I'm going to go ahead and say those before him weren't really Kirk cousins. And you can see the difference from the skill position now that they they're flourishing. And I said this before the season even started. Were Kirk cousins in the regular seat? Hell, they wasn't even the Marcus cousins. You talk about Kirk cousins. Hell, gee. They're not even boogie. You talking about...

Hey, you know what Kirk Cousins gives you in the regular season? I said they were going to put up stupid numbers. Yes, yes. They were going to feed off of that, and they would look completely different from a skill position perspective, and that's exactly how they looked already in week five. So, what was it in them? I remember Ocho when he was a rookie. Mike, Mike Shanahan was the head coach. Obviously all those guys were there.

Kyle Shanahan was the office coordinator. Uh, I think Mike McDaniel was there. I think Sean McVeigh was there. There are a lot, a lot of head coaches that were there was on Mike's staff. Uh, hell Raheem might've been there. I'm not sure. Um, and I just remember, you know, talking to the team, Mike asked me, as a matter of fact, me and Rod Smith both went.

And I just remember seeing Cousins, he was like in the first or the second row, and he was just taking notes. Everything that I say, you know, I'm looking at the guys, you know, who's attentive, who's like, oh, whatever, okay. But I'm watching him and he's taking notes. He's listening to what I had to say.

I was like, okay. I thought it was odd that you take a quarterback number one over, number two overall, and then you take a quarterback in the third round. I understood, you know, I understand Mike's philosophy. A lot of people don't understand. And what he tried to convey to, I forget the owner's name, Daniel Snyder.

He's like, Dan, let's just say for the sake of, now remember Ocho, that's when they had the, they were in salary cap hell. They had tried to push the money into an uncapped season. The NFL punished them, took $30 million away from them in cap space. He says, now, if we don't have the cap space to go get people in free agency,

we trade all the draft capital to move up. Right. How do you build a team? How do you build a team? That's a nasty word. So and the thing is, you have to like, OK, RG3's RG3 deserved to be selected where he was selected. Yeah, most definitely.

But is this style conducive for a long, a long career? It kind of is. If he protected himself better, yes. But so you factor that in. You seeing him, he did not slide when he was in college. He played kind of like reckless and look at his frame. Yeah. So again, is that style of play, is it going to lead to a long career? Probably not unless you understand, bro, you wanted a quarterback that you wanted the positions

that if you slide, nobody's gonna look at you sideways. If you're a wide receiver, you slide. Man, he's scared. You're running back tight end, you slide. Oh, you're chicken. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Get out of here. It's about longevity. End of the day now. Come on. It is. It is.

They want you to play well. Great for an extended period of time. But yeah, he he he look, he's made himself some money. Yeah, he's a good quarterback. He's a good quarterback. The problem is, is that he hasn't been able to carry that regular season into the post. Yeah, a lot of one playoff win. Go ahead. What one win and Ocho and when it was prime time, when it was big time game and they needed

him, he hasn't been able to replicate some of the games that he's done. Right now. You see this. You saw tonight. Hey, he hasn't been able to replicate some of the games that he's done. Now you see this, you saw tonight, he was dealing. He's as good, tonight he played as good as anybody could have played. I mean, no matter the quarterback, if he played five, bro, ain't a whole lot of 500-yard games in the NFL. I mean, normally a quarterback has one of those.

You know, Marino has one. I know boomer has one. I think Brett farm, not Brett far, excuse me. Big Ben might have two or three. I think, uh, Drew Brees has one. I know Brady has one. Yeah. Uh, Matthew Stafford has one. Uh, Warren moon has one.

Norm van Brocklin has one. There ain't a whole lot of quarterback to say I got a 500 yard passing game on my resume. Kurt Cousins can say that. Yeah, yeah. Now we can just get some of them playoff accolades and we gonna be all right now. Damn quarterback, that's where you define don't you?

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Yeah, Devontae's dealing with a hamstring, he's rehabbing, and the rest of us are focusing on Denver. You gonna be here in the building today, or are you supposed to be rehabbing? So yesterday Devontae went on the up and Adam show and discusses a social media posts earlier this week. Is that something that was accidental on your part in terms of like, yeah, I'm just focused on Denver.

Have you communicated with Devante and where is the relationship with you and Devante talk often? What was? Have you talked to him since all of this? I believe that between me and Devante. Are you concerned at all? But this been a distraction? What's the note? Nope, cuz we're focused on Denver.

Antonio, given given all the reports that are out there about Devante, how are you able to focus simply on the Broncos coming up? I've been doing them. You told me personally. And then how do you? Oh, because I mean, it starts with me. Because that's my only focus. I get paid here to get ready each and every week for the opponent.

I don't blink. I don't flinch. I don't know. I've said it before. I've been through enough in my life with adversity and stuff that it doesn't bother me. I just move forward. The next obstacle in front of me is the Denver Broncos. And that's what I presented to my team. And that's what they're doing right now in the meeting. And we're about to go out to practice and do it versus the Broncos. Nah, just business as usual. Just gotta keep rolling. Let's go! Talk about the media is a trip. Like some of these things going on off the field, the media they ask these questions to me

maybe for you, it's really not a distraction. Once we're able to enter that workspace, once we're in that workplace, once you walk in that building, all that motherfucking noise don't even matter. It don't matter. I don't it don't matter what's going on. I am at peace once I cross that threshold in that place we call work. What's your what's your take? What's your take? Yeah, I want to see it's fine.

I get to work. If you ask me about the Broncos, ask me about Devontae Adams, they ain't work. Right, right, right, right, right, right. Cause you know, they coming to you, they're going to come to the guys that are the big, the guys, if something was going on, Carson Palmer requests to trade. You remember when Carson retired, you, you, who'd ask? Hey, they asked me, he said he refused. He was not coming in and he did not come either.

You say I'm not coming back unless y'all trade me and he retired. He literally retired. And I had to answer those questions, but it didn't it didn't affect me. And I didn't see it as a distraction. You know, those were just regular questions that were easy for me to answer and articulate at the time. I understood his stance. I understood why he took that stance, answered the question.

Boom, boom. Once I hit the field. Boom. That's in and out the door. That's in and out the door. That's in and out the door. But you know, Ocho, all of this could have been done if Antonio Pierce didn't like that tweet. What did he think was going to happen? Hey, do you think he did that? Or somebody he has somebody that runs his account, though?

Ain't nobody doing that. That'd be like somebody that'd be like, hey, man, I'm glad. I'm glad I got in trouble. And you like the tweet like somebody, that'll be like, hey, man, I'm glad, I'm glad I got in trouble and you like the tweet. Oh, that was real like the tweet. Either one is bad because guess what? We automatically assume the person that's closer to you. Right, okay. But this is the thing, think about this.

Not to bring up the past, but you know, you had an incident a few weeks ago. You had someone else that actually runs your account be shut that off. So I'm just I'm trying to think when I think about Antonio Pierce as a head coach and the head coach really active on social media like that, especially Instagram, be able to like a post. That's why I'm thinking maybe it's somebody that's on his team that maybe by accident and he has to take.

No, hell no. You're I guess you could. Yeah, because I've ended up following people. I'm like, who follow? I'm like, how the hell I end up following you? Yeah, so he has to say he has to fall on the sword for it as if it was really him. But like you said, you end up following.

Look, my thing was is that I'm glad Jordan had access to my account and could shut it off, because there ain't no telling how long that thing would have been running. Cause I had no idea. Right, right, right, right, right. So Jordan was able to go in and cut it off because he has access to the account.

Had he not had access to the account, oh Joe, I ain't gonna lie, I don't know how long it would have been running. It don't matter how long it would have been running. One thing about it, you put that work in, baby. You put that work in now. There you go, there you go. There you go with that bulljive.

So that's, you're right. If I like the tweet, I don't really like, cause I didn't really, hell I didn't know. Cause like when I got on, when I got IG Ocho, he didn't really know anything about it. Hell I like it. Cause I'm like, I like it everybody's tweet. Hey, I like this, I ain't know.

They're like, and I remember my barber like He's like man. What why you like all the tweets? I'm like, why not? I mean, I like the person working out I like this. I like that. Yeah All you doing is taking your finger and you're pressing the goddamn screen Sim. Yeah. Yeah, he said, you know what that means? Don't you I said, I mean I like nah, that is what that mean, bro I said what you mean what it mean that mean you like you you like that person. I say, no, I mean, I like now that is what that mean, bro. I said, what you mean, what it mean? That mean you like you, you like that person. I say, huh?

I say, how do you be? How do you how do you how are you able to do that? See now that that see that that's that's a small issue. Now, that's also an issue I've had here here in the household now. So I so I got to be careful now. Now, I understand what you're talking about. So yeah, but I didn't know. I didn't know. I didn't know. I'm just getting the thing. I'm liking everything. I didn't

know. Obviously people I know like Snoop Dogg, stuff like that. LeBron. I'm liking all things, but I see a woman working out. She got a nice body. She's working out. I'm liking the thing. I'm liking the workout. Okay. You're working hard. I ain't trying to shoot no. Yeah. Yeah. You're trying to shoot your shot. I'm like,, at that point in time, I ain't know what you know. Shop me. Yeah. Hey, but listen, now you have to understand that if you like too many pictures, you know, your name comes up and other people can see your name and all this. Yeah. Yeah.

I think I got cursed out a few times. Now, what you doing? What you doing? What you doing? Like in that individual? I listen. I didn't mean it. I didn't mean to like it.

I might have been scrolling and I slightly the depression from a finger. You know, it only takes point eight five pounds of ounces of pressure to like a picture by accident and my finger accidentally. So I went back to have done like everything because it didn't sit well. He had my household. I get it. And I told I totally understand is that that's the only thing I wish that people couldn't see who you following Because they go to the thing they say okay

He's following 500 people right and then they can go look and see the people that you're following why you care Yeah, you worry about your father was why you worried about People don't got nothing going on got nothing going on. They told me. Yes, I'm like, brah, people, y'all got if you got time to worry about who's somebody following, you not busy or not. They not they not they not all on. They go to a second. That's why you start.

Yeah, bro, eat your food. You got what you got alone. You went to the restaurant. It was a buffet. You got what you got. Hold on. You went to the restaurant. It was a buffet. You got what you wanted. You could put whatever you wanted to put on your plate. Okay. The people that you're following, those are the people that you wanted to follow.

The people that I'm following, those are the people that I wanted to follow. I don't understand why you concerned with who I'm following. Yeah. Well, you got to be careful though. When you reach a certain level of status. I had to learn the hard way. You know, you can't like everybody's pictures. You can't follow certain people. Oh, I ain't like nobody. Yeah. And when you like pictures, from what I heard now, their rules, the Instagrams is, well, if you like too many, you're trying to get their attention.

Yeah, I don't like nothing. Yeah. So I hate all y'all working out. I'm all y'all working out. Your body's bad. You I'm with you. I'm with you. When you write, I had to learn the hard way you write. I told you, I, I, I, you ain't wrong when you're right. Oh, yeah.

Listen, listen, this, the culprit, you know, who got on my case is right. It's right here. She went wide awake to me. Yeah, you are a, you understand you understand. Okay, that's a problem. Yeah. Yeah, you understand, you understand, okay, that's a problem. Yeah, you ain't got to worry about it no more. And you know, hey, it's a big thing. Why you following her?

I was like, even if you follow her, why you following her? Yeah. She on IG. Yeah, oh no. Hey, don't you make it seem like she got one follower and I'm it. Yeah, listen.

Okay, okay, fine. It ain't no biggie. Hey, I don't. Okay, fine. It ain't no biggie. Yeah. Hey, I don't got no more problems. Now what I do, I can see I still got eyes now. Yeah. Yeah, I can still see but I ain't got. I like it in my mind.

Oh, Joe, I ain't like it. You don't know I like it, but I like it in my mind. That's nice. Like art. I did the hard eyes. I did the hard eyes. I did the hard eyes. I did the hard eyes. I did the hard eyes in my mind. You're bad.

Hey, that's a good one. But I get it. I get it. Hey, it ain't worth it. Because in the beginning, Ocho, I was following these people before I met you. How you gonna come in and tell me to unfollow? Yeah. You know what I did, Ocho, at one point in time,

Ocho, I would follow like 1200 people. Right. I couldn't, okay, I got rid of 200. Why you got, I got rid of another 200. Yeah. Okay, leave that person. Oh, why you, now I'm down to 700 600 now? I'm down the phone Yeah, I'm trying to think because it ain't that big

I was probably without a lot of these people I was following I didn't know you exist. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah Yeah, well, you know, I had I had to clean mine up. I had to clean my Instagrams up I don't think I probably maybe I followed maybe maybe a hundred hundred hundred twenty people now. I didn't clean it up So I don't listen. I don't want I just want peace. I like peace, you know Yeah deal with enough shit in the real world and when I come home, yeah, you know I don't want to have to have no problem phone. I'm gonna have no problem with my people. I just want to come in Hey, how you doing, baby? I work with these people right? Yeah

Well, if you if you see him at work why you gotta fall? Oh my god Okay, be going through it. That's a lot that wait. Hey matter of fact when somebody question you like that again Ask them where your ring at What my ring at you asked me questions as if we are married couple the woman ring at we go down there I asked me them questions. If you work with them, you see them every day. Why you got, I say, so what? You think I follow somebody to keep up with them?

Right, right. Hey, you gotta put your foot down now. Nah, Ocho. Put your foot down. Hey, sometime Ocho, sometime you just let them have that and just, okay. Okay, okay, I understand. I them have that and just, okay. Okay, okay, I understand.

I need to get me a burner account, followed by 5,000 people. Follow who I want. I'll be out there secretly liking photos. Ocho, if Devontae Adams gets his wish, he'll eventually be a member of the New York Jets, playing with his friend and four- time NFL MVP Aaron Rodgers. But he's also open to playing with several other teams. The New Orleans Saints, Derek Carr, the Pittsburgh Steelers, the Baltimore Ravens, the Buffalo Bills, the Dallas Cowboys, the San Francisco 49ers are among the teams that have entered

and that have inquired about the six time pro bowler. Our place is Adams would be obviously he loved his being the Bay. He's from the area. He loved to be back out there. Where does where do you think Devante ends up? I mean, listen, the only thing, the two things that make sense. But one, the Cowboys don't have the money. They don't have the cash base.

What makes the most sense is playing with Derek Carr out with the Saints. And what probably is going to happen is him playing with. Aaron Rodgers in New York. He's familiar with the offense. He's familiar with the quarterback. He's familiar with the office, the coordinator. So it's a, just you go there and you plug in and you play right now because he knows the offense.

Aaron knows him. It takes them who knows how long just to develop that chemistry that they've already had throughout the years and Yeah, it makes the most sense Especially offensive perspective offensive perspective view watch the jest against the Broncos with them really having no awesome weapons outside of Garrett What's in the photo think about what you do if you add Devante Adams and give him his old weapon back Then you have Garrett was and it takes some of the pressure off of him. I won't Gary Wilson No, you don't get to keep Gary Wilson. I won't Gary Wilson. Now you don't get to keep Gary Wilson.

I won't Gary Wilson. I'm going to shift him to the Raiders. Oh no. Oh no. You can't do that. Oh no. You can't get it. Oh no.

No, you can't do that. Listen, with a just can do, Oh, the Raiders. Oh, you have a problem. Okay. We can get his son ready. Now you got Matt cross me. You got his son ready. You don't turn that down.

He ain't got no money. We're going to contract. He's saying he want to go back to Philly. I don't know what they gonna do, but they gonna make it happen. I think it's gonna happen before, what's tomorrow's Friday, right? Yeah. When is the trade deadline? The trade deadline, I think is in November. I think they pushed it back.

Yeah, but see, they don't need to waste no time. And I don't think knowing Mark Davidson, knowing Antonio Piers, Antonio Piers is going to stand on business. Antonio got time for that. You know, if you understand who he is, the type of man he is outside of coaching. Oh, I ain't got time for this. This is becoming, I don't want to use the word distraction. I'm not going to use that word, but he just want to get things expedited as fast as possible. So everybody's supposed to to both sides are happy.

So I want to see the Monte Adams on the field and I would love to get into this uniform or isn't even room for him over in New Orleans anyway, where Chris Olavi Rashid Shaheed is already there. I'm not sure who the number three might be, but for him, I think the better fit from an offensive perspective is being with Ann Rogers. And, and then from a productive standpoint, being able to put up the numbers you used to putting up will also be there if he goes with Aaron as well. Yeah.

Um, but whatever reason here, Garrett Wilson, Aaron and Garrett Wilson hadn't been able to get on the same page. We saw them on the sidelines during training camp, having discussions about where Aaron wanted to be, Garrett Wilson, where he was, where he wanted, where he thought the ball should be. So they haven't quite got on the same page as of yet. Um, that's years. Normally it takes years for a quarterback and a wide receiver to develop that chemistry where they tell, uh, they understand each other

without saying a word, right? It's just a look. I know where the ball's going to be gonna be I where I need to be I know where he's gonna be Yeah, he knows where the ball is gonna be things like that. It takes time I think that is it ain't no it's yeah you can work on it in many camp and you try to strengthen that in training camp and then hopefully in preseason but Until they do none of those things. Yeah in preseason, but they do nothing. Those things. Yeah.

You didn't have, you didn't, you didn't have the mini camp. Cause the last mini camp, I don't think Aaron came in training camp. They was, they was trying to work through it. But then in camp, normally, Oh Joe, when we have a problem in practice, we get an opportunity to work on it in the preseason game. But now nobody's playing.

Yeah. Yeah. It's playing. Yeah, it's different It's different. So hopefully Devontae. I like Devontae a lot. Hopefully he gets this situation resolved He gets so he gets to go somewhere. He probably damn probably should have stayed in Green Bay Sure love. Oh, yeah, but no, it's a young man's game now. It's a young man game and Obviously he made the right decision to go play with Derek Tar The right decision to go play with Derek Carr obviously is his college teammate from Fresno State and just so happened Listen, they decided to ship Derek Carr off to New Orleans. So Jeremy Fowler VSPN posted a long article about Stefan Digg and Buffalo Bills divorce

Why they keep doing this? This divorce did not come out of nowhere. Tremendous player, a team source said, but the offense didn't need him anymore. He's super smart. It didn't. And if you sugar coat it with him and you're not a hundred percent, he'll see through it and the source said digs approach and he remembers everything you say. You always have to worry about how he feels as a bit, a bill team source said that worries on the locker room coaches and

scouts on Minnesota staff during digs tenure. They're often referred to digs experience as a roller coaster on the field on field brilliance that off the field irritability that can elicit discomfort within the football building. It can be a lot. He might throw a helmet he'll wear on your quarterback but find me a premier receiver that might throw a helmet. He'll wear a, or your quarterback, but find me a premiere receiver that is not a diva. Listen, you played the position.

I have a question. You were great at the position. Go ahead. We in week five, Stefan Diggs now plays for the Houston Texans. For the Houston Texans. Why does his name continue to come up with Mr. Fowler or anybody else that's a part of the Bills organization? Now you talk about you didn't need to step on digs, right?

Please tell me how they look when they played against the Ravens. Please tell me when Josh Allen couldn't put a Superman cape on and need a viable threat to go to when you're playing against a really good defense that might be top three in the NFL right now, I might add. Who did he have he can go to and say, you know what, I need you to get open right now, come hell or high water. I can't scheme you open. I can't, I can't, I can't help you get open.

I can't put you in most, I'm gonna line you up. It's third and five. I need you to win for me right now. I don't wanna play Superman. I just need you to go and get it. Out of the mud, off the muscle. What happens when you don't have that? Yeah, you can only scheme people open so long.

This is no disrespect to the bills receiving and what they have. I like what they have right now. I like it, especially Keon Coleman. He's a rookie, but he's not he's not there yet. He's not there yet. I like what they have. But still, Stefan Diggs is a top premier receiver, no matter what people may say, no matter what people may think.

Look at the numbers that him and Josh Allen put up together in his tenure there the first four years. Look at the numbers they put up. It's not a mistake. Of course you're going to be upset when he doesn't get the ball. You know what the first thing they do to you where you don't have the stats, you don't have the numbers to go with the salary that you're making. That's the first thing they use against you. Well, if you look at your numbers, you're not putting up the same type of numbers.

Now we think it's time for you to take a pay cut. That's what we think. You know, so they use all this. Man, listen, man, Stefan Diggs is going to Houston, Texas. That's it. Stop bringing him up. I don't know why they continue to do so. He's already there. I don't know why he's already there to do so. He's already there.

I just took a different approach. Oh, Joe, but you could talk to me. I'm like, hey, talk to me. I'm like, hey, take. I think the thing is, is like, what what bothered me? Yeah. Is that they hadn't come to me early in the game. Right. It's the third quarter, fourth quarter. And they ask you, hey, what you like? No, no, what you like? No, don't ask me that.

No, remember how y'all say y'all was gonna spread it around this week? Yeah. De-spread it around. Yeah. I'm good. Right, right, right. Cause I'm gonna walk upstairs,

I'm gonna knock on Alex door on Monday, and I'm gonna get that check. Right. Don't ask me. Right. You said let y'all do y'all job. I'm gonna let y'all do y'all job. Yes sir.

Cause if I do, if I'm doing y'all job, y'all don't pay me for this. I'm going to make the same, I'm going to make the same amount of money, Ocho, whether you throw me 12 balls or you throw me one. Now the likelihood of us winning when you throw me 12 greatly increases our chance. Thank you. Come on now.

Take it. I'm not fit to be mad. I ain't throwing no helmet. I ain't tearing them. That's the same thing I said. The only time John really got mad at me is that when I needed five yards to get a thousand, back then tight ends didn't get a thousand yards easy.

Right. I had 9.95 at the half. I had six I had I had 995 at the house. Right. I had six catches for a buck. Fifteen bucks, 16. To touchdown. Right. We are 14 points. We lose the game and over time, I catch another pair. Oh, you say what?

I said, bro, I never come to you and tell you, say, no, that's your job. So. No, I'm not, I'm not going to be, cause I understand, I understand how it works. And I tell people this all the time, no matter, and it's applicable because for the most part of what you had, you know, manual labor jobs, what I was growing up. And they gonna need people, they gonna need people to pick up the pecans or clip the onions, load tomatoes, the belt, or hey, hey, whatever, they need that.

But when you work these people jobs and there are other people out there that want those jobs, they gonna tolerate you until they can replace you. Always, always, always. Now, and like you said, now you can speed up that process. You can speed up that process. You feel that process because you and I both know. Tio should have been a one helmet or two helmet guy.

Yeah, that's it. That's how great he was. Yeah. They think the same thing with Randy. He should have been a one or two helmet guy. That's how great they were. And as great as they were, what happened, Ocho? Yeah, they tolerated, they tolerated it enough to dig it.

And the funny thing about it, even though you can't replace them, even still, no, you can't replicate what they've been able to do from a production standpoint, but I understand what you talk about as far as the business goes. I understand. Ocho, it's far as the business goes. I understand. And just watch. Oh, it's just like it's just like a relationship. Yeah, you might. You might be.

And I'm not just talking about women. I'm talking about me. Right. It might be a woman. She can do everything. But treat you a certain way. So even though she can cook, take care of the house, come on, I do everything that you might need. But she becomes a headache.

It becomes a problem is the nagging. She doesn't give you the peace. And as soon as you find somebody to give you, and they might not ever be able to do totally what she can do, you let it go. It might be a man. He pay all the bills. He do everything.

He's like, You know what? About here. And she gone. She gone. Now, I don't know. I don't know about that scenario right there. A woman leaving the man, the pan, all the bills and going to somebody else that I don't know about that one. I tell you what.

She'll do something behind his back until he find out and then he'll get rid of them. Well, that is that that is true. But they would they will they will play that. That's that's. Yeah. They'll give you a reason to get up out of that. Come on now. So ever, ever, ever.

You heard him. He's preaching tonight. So as a team, a team will say, you know what? Yes, we're not gonna find anybody to give us those numbers. But I'm not gonna deal with this no more. I'm not dealing with this anymore. I'm not gonna keep begging you to act a certain way. I'm not gonna ask you to keep doing this.

We done. Hey. And then, because here's the thing, Ocho. If you have a great, let's just say, T.O. should have been able to get two or three more years, just based on what he had done in his previous 12, 13 years. Just that alone should allow him to say, you know what? Hey, you know what, Tio?

We can't pay you the money with you normally get, but here you go, bro, and we need you to be the third receiver. We're going to shoot you three, four, $5 million a year. Same thing with AB. Man, look how talented AB was. There ain't no reason AB shouldn't be in the league. Yeah. None whatsoever. But you see what happened in Pittsburgh and you see what happened in Oakland. But I think the fans did AB a disservice because when he was posting everything and they was like AB, yeah, you right AB,

you right AB, ooh AB, let AB free, let AB. Bro, stop stop this man. Y'all see the man being destructive to himself. Why would y'all egg that behavior on? Tom threw him a lifeline. I guarantee you, they ain't 10 guys that got feet better than AB right now in the NFL. Hold on, it ain't no AB in the NFL right now at all.

And that's no disrespect to the talent that's there right now. That's no disrespect to the top five right now. Ain't no Antonio Brown out there. Now it's different now. And ain't no AB out there. He had the guy himself. Yeah. When he still should have been there.

Yeah. So it just goes to show you it's just like another job. You know what? He ain't as productive as he once was, but he's good in the locker room. Think about it. A lot of times you see coaches, they'll go somewhere and they'll take a couple of guys from the team they were on just because. Right. I know when I live, if I needed a job, I'm going to get a job right now.

I'm going to get a job with Kyle Shanahan staff. I bet I can get a job with Mike McDaniel staff. I can get a job with Sean McVey staff. You know why? Because Kyle Shanahan and Mike Shanahan will go vouch for me. Yeah. But shoot, I can give me, I can give me a job. I can give me a job.

I want to listen. I ain't calling nobody. I don't want to be no damn coach. I want to ain't called nobody. I don't want to be no damn coach. I don't want to coach either. Listen, I think it's what you want to do is it takes too. It takes too much time to me. I think to see the real money. I'm talking about the real money.

You hear me? Stay with me now to see the real money as a coach because coaching is so fickle. You got three years. If you ask, say winning, you got to go. And I ain't moving everybody. I ain't moving nobody. I ain't moving everybody up to another state. And we get fired.

And I got to tell real, OK, you and all the kids, we got to go. We got to pack up. I can't do that. The money. Yeah, I'm good right here. Coaching in the military, coaching military and Pentecostal ministers, Pentecostal don't nobody move more. Yeah, they move. What's that? I've been across the middle minister. Yeah

Yeah, they be moving all the time with you like every seven years They got to get up out of there you ain't up into a Pentecostal church with Adam 10 revivals. Oh who a Tint revival. Oh, my bad. Nah, no, I go to the Baptist church, you know, tambourines. Oh my Lord, Lord, and be. Yeah, man. Yeah, I don't, yeah. You know, military families, they move every so often. Guess what?

You have, oh, oh, that's my good friend. That's my good friend. They know he gone. They gotta go, they, hey, military, you gotta go somewhere else. Right. You might, hey, you might be at Fort Carson, Fort Dix, Fort Benning, this one and that one.

Hey, you a Fort Stuart, you all over the place. How, this one and that one. Hey, you are for Stuart. You all over the place. How long how long do you normally stay if you're in the middle? Maybe how long you normally stay somewhere we in the military by the three years. But if you are for liberty, you still have to be there because it's everyone. She said everywhere is probably a minimum of three years. But if you afford liberty, you kind of stuck there because you airborne.

Yeah. Oh, she said you got to reenlist to if you're a Fort Liberty, you kind of stuck there because you airborne. Yeah. Oh, she said you got to reenlist to get up out of Fort Liberty. I don't even know what this terminology mean. I'm just regurgitating because she telling me. Yeah. So that's the thing though, Ocho. So in a situation like that, yeah. Hey, you up. And so, yeah, I just think, you know, look, it's over with, ain't no sense in y'all trying

to ban mouth to man now, he's gone. We know there are some problems. We saw the rumblings on the sideline. We saw the cryptics. You know, you try not to read too much into it, Ocho. But when somebody keeps, it's just like, Ocho is just a matter of time. When a woman keeps tweeting cryptically. Yeah.

It's something behind that now. Yeah. And so, yeah, you, you, you could. Oh, but what? Well, I ain't see it coming. You did. Yeah. Tell Steven saw it coming. Oh, so them tweet, them tweets about me.

Them little cryptic tweets you'd be posting sometime. I done seen some cryptic tweets. I'm not talking about crypt walking. I'm talking about cryptic tweets, like, I'm just, they spoke about NAS, NAS kind of coming back to me and resonating because sometimes you'd be tweeting stuff when we beefing and I'm like, well, where this coming from?

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Bro, that's cop. That's cheating. If I'm playing Madden, RPO Reed with them, but it's pretty cop in, you know what I'm saying, on the game. And in real life, you know, they still doing the same thing. So you know what I'm saying? It's a great duo they have back there.

Hell no, I'm gonna get myself. Is Lamar and Derrick Henry the scariest duo in the NFL? Yeah, it's cheating. It's cheating. I mean, just honestly, from an offense perspective, unless you have the personnel and in the front line and the second level to be able to deal with that and players that are sound and disciplined with gap responsibility and understand where they know where they need to be in their fits and and good with their hands and at the point of attack that you know

if you are sound and disciplined defensively then you really don't mind having to play against Lamar Jackson and Derek goddamn Henry but the duo itself in general and what is known as a passing league now. It's scary. But what happens when you stack nine, nine in the box, though? Huh? What happens when you have a front line that stout? I guess stout where ain't nobody moving. It's a different ballgame.

It is a different ballgame. But you got to be perfect every time. Yeah. Because the one time you try to cheat, now Lamar comes out the back. That's why I said this is the one. That's why I say you got one time. The one the one time you don't get to where you're supposed to be that crease. There Henry hits his head on the goal post from 87.

Yeah, like he did last week. That we don't see it. I don't know when that game is going to happen. Listen right now, if I'm not mistaken, I think that I think the Bengals maybe 27th against the path, maybe 30th against the rush. I'm not sure even though the stats look like that defensively for them, that normally the games against the Ravens, they're close. Sometimes obviously Lamar Jackson's for one.

Yeah, for one against when him and Joe Bauer have gone head to head one really three and one because one of those games Joe went out. So we're Browning had to come in and take over. I'm hoping the game is good. I'm hoping it's close. I hope the defense shows up a little better because it's a division game. I'm thinking it can be a little better despite the records and the way we've been playing defensively. I don't know, but you're going to you're going to see a game. You're going to see a team that the Ravens are going to play. Probably not going to be a division opponent. It might be that it might be that might be the Steelers. It might be the Browns.

We're all that running and all that RPO. It just ain't working because them boys coming down here on. Yeah, them coming down here. The general rule is, oh, Joe, I got to stop the run because if I can't stop the run, now I can't stop the play. Yeah. Yeah. I can't let you be. I got to stop something. Yeah. Dale, I mean, oh, Joe, the thing is, I'm trying to stop you from robbing my house. I either got to close the window or shut the door.

I can't leave them both open. Oh, I've been buying somebody to come in my that's a good one Oh, that's a good one. So I've got to stop I've got to stop the run Or if I don't stop the run, I can't stop the pass because they're gonna play action me to death. Yeah And you I don't care. There's a reason why teams are going to that two shell. Yeah. Because they say we're going to make you run the football because the only, really the only way you can make us come up out of it is to run us up out of it. And there are very few teams that have the running back to run you out of cover too. Right. Baltimore has a guy that can run your ass out of cover too. Right up, right up at a, a listen if you did go down If you don't catch him going east and west and you let that you let that junkie go north and south

Man shoot, but I'm gonna pray for you I'm a pray for you. That's why you see what they done now. They've got his heels at eight yards They either toss it to him or they're handed to him straight down here cuz he's a long strider So you put in four yards? No, let him open up. Let him, when he get to the line of scrimmage, that's eight yards. So, okay, now, so now when he hit a hole, you know, first of all, if you don't,

if you don't make him change his direction, make him change his feet. So you just let him go just like this here and you don't make him check his feet. We call it checking his feet. Just like the same thing we do with a return. If you don't make him check his feet, you just let him hit it on a dead run.

Shit. Okay. Okay. I don't want no part. What happened? Then you go to the, oh Joe, then you go to, you take your helmet off, you go to,

okay, what happened? Did you get, did you get, nah. No. What happened? He hit his head on the goal post. I can't imagine playing corner and that guard pulling and they have that toss with Derek Henry and you the corner out there and the guard coming and you can't cut the guard no more so you got to take the guard on and do whatever you can and man listen man I don't

want no part of that. You talking about making a business decision? Boy, you can have that. Yeah, cause you ain't really, and they looking to punish somebody. Now all of a sudden, they don't have to go up against a Simon's or Chris Jones or formerly Aaron Donald.

They get 190 pound or 200 pound DB. Bro, they try to make a only lie to you boy they try to flapjack you they try to run you smooth over hey they try to make roadkill out of you they go do something bad to you yeah they come out there with bad intentions they try to put that they try to put that helmet on it yeah you like damn hey somebody get this man, get it, hey, I will get in the way.

I would dodge over here, make him go over there, make him go over there. I ain't really trying to take him home now, come on. Man. Rasheed Rice is going on AR, I-A-R, I-R. Patrick Mahomes said today he didn't initially know, well, he was the one who accidentally collided with Rasheed

Rice's knee. Then he saw the replay on SoFi Stadium video board. When I saw the replay I felt like ish that I hit Rasheed. I really wasn't worried about myself. I was worried about the injury and hopefully that it wasn't as bad as it looked. I was the one they hit him. I didn't notice it in the moment. I was more worried about trying to get the ball. Obviously he's just trying to make a play and it happens whenever you're trying to make tackles. Does bro. Yeah. First of all, he a quarterback.

What the hell you thinking? He ain't use it. Patrick Mahone probably ain't never attack. Patrick Mahone probably ain't played defense since he's what? Eight years old, nine years old? Yeah, probably. Ten?

Probably. Cause we all played it and we all played both ways when we had, you know, Pee Wee, Pop Warner, whatever they called it and we all play both ways where we had, you know, P we pop one or whatever They call it. Oh Joe. We all play both ways, but Patrick behind my homes hadn't tackled someone Try to you know, obviously Thorian of safety you try to tackle it Yeah, but that's what you try to do you try to take your knees You try to take the knees out and you're not looking what you see it. So you got to see what you hear Well, he ain't no D. He ain't no defense player. He tried to see what he's here

I mean, he just tried to protect himself and make a play. In that situation, he's coming from one way. Rashid Rice is coming from behind. There was no way. Yeah, there was no way. It just unfortunate. And the thing was, like you said, Patrick Mahomes, Rashid Rice.

Patrick goes low, Rashid Rice is coming this way. His shoulder hits the knee. Back high percentage boom. Because Rashid Rice is coming. I don't want you to score. Patrick Mahoney is coming. I don't want you to score to boom boom. It is called friendly fire.

You as happened, I've tried, you know, you're trying to block. I'm trying to get a block, and you could get guys running back, run up your back. That's when I get mad at them, I say, all right, I don't block for your ass no more, you running my back now. And I ain't finna get hurt. Hey, don't hurt me, trying to help you.

We think about it's friendly fire too. Friendly fire. Yeah. So hold on. They didn't bring nobody in, so Rashid Rice and Hollywood Brown out. Who's stepping up? Sky Moore. Yeah. Sky Moore. Remember, we just had a conversation about Brett Beach about they threw Sky Moore ball on Sunday.

Yeah. And Brett Beach, Brett Beach slammed his fist on the table. Hold on. They still don't got no choice but to use him now. They got no choice but Sky Moore. We got Mikko Hardman, Travis Kelsey. Okay. Worthy. Xavier, we got we got X-Man. We got X-Man. OK. Mm hmm. OK. But they've got Watson. Justin Justin Watson, I think that's his name. They've been relying on the tight end. Noah Gray, number 83.

Yeah, he's been catching some balls. Even. Yeah. Yeah. Normally, he's kind of like they're like blocking guy. Got a little utility guy. But they've been throwing him a lot of bottles lately. Oh Joe. Mm-hmm Rishi rice mom is accused of stealing a package that was on the front of an apartment door She was caught on camera and did it while wearing mama rice Jersey. Oh Joe really wait you for real Yes I need to know the backstory. I just don't think, I just don't think she really taking

somebody package or maybe somebody might've did something. That'd be like real got on the 85 jersey saying miss Ocho and she snatches somebody package from other people. I need to know the backstory. The backstory is a chance, Ocho's girl, Miss Ocho swiped somebody's package, the ring camera got her, and she got her jersey on, Ocho. Yeah, I think they probably took a package.

Cause think about it, we talk about Rashid Rice's mom, we talk about NFL player's mother who has nothing to worry about right now, you know, probably ever. Oh, so you want to play with me? Okay. I'm gonna take your package. I Know I know she know the ring camera right there. I know she see the ring camera I don't think it oh Joe. I don't think she saw it But that's that's when you go to the police right, right? Let them handle it right because now you put yourself in a you put yourself in a situation

I mean that a lot of times like man. Hey, I'll be water No, just let it come. Mm-hmm Sometimes I do wish I could go back to 3 1988 When Sterling Sharpe wasn't in the NFL right right you get to do what you want to do Yeah, yeah Right, right. You get to do what you want to do. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like, like, like, like pictures and follow people. I damn like a picture. They all this crazy talk out here. Slide your number.

I get which we can see what's really going on. We can see what's really going on. Yeah. Damn. So like it's a picture. I can't even look like it on damn pictures. That ain't got nothing to do with where I am now. That's got to do with other people.

And then the fact that nobody else, it should be a situation where you like the picture, only the person that has the account can see that you like the picture. Instead of everybody else. Yeah, everybody else, that being your picture. Cause a lot of people just go, ooh, ooh, Ocho like the picture.

Like the picture. This person like the picture. Ooh, you know what that mean? What? That mean, yo. Hey, fuck you. Man, why you like, a guy work, guy work it out.

Why you like the guy working out picture? I mean, I work out just cause you don't work out. I learned, bro, okay, I like that. I like that the way you do it at that time and attention. I like the one, two, three down, the one, two, three up, the hole at the top, the hole at the bottom. Damn, OK, I see the growth. I see the full stretch at the top.

Yeah, you see. I see. Yeah, but it's done. It's done. Got now, Ocho. Everything that you do or say gets critiqued. Yeah, yeah. And I just can't, I just can't. I remember I was talking, I was talking to my homeboy. I was talking to the bugger that day. I said, man, I'm done with this. I said, all this stuff is impossible. I'm going to talk.

I said, I'm going to talk because people that understand that's my age, we ain't got time to play them games. Paws, paws, paws. Hey, shut up. When we talking about hitting the hole, we talking about the A-Gap, we talking about, hey, oh, they ran the ball down his throat, Pauls up. Man, get out of here with that. That's your problem. Everybody's saying Pauls ain't, bro, y'all grown.

Yeah. And y'all wanna play kids game. Ocho, check it, speaking of stuff. Ocho, I gotta address something that's been happening behind the scenes for over a year. Oh, shit. Sc Speaking of stuff. Yeah. Oh, I gotta I gotta address something that's been happening behind the scenes for over a year. Oh, shit. What happened? Scammers have been posing as talent bookers for Club Shae Shae, sending emails to lesser known artists, influencers and actors. The scammer often signs his email, Daniel Joseph, the schedule Zoom calls with gas prospects but never turns on the camera. They offer $3,000 in compensation for the gas appearance. Once they get your... So they

ask you, say, okay, we want to send you the $3,000. Can you give us your banking information? They turn, they give them their banking information. So instead of sending the money, they take money. They didn't get the money. Oh, Joe froze again. So guys. I'm right here, I ain't free. Please do not give strangers your banking information.

Club Shaysay, we unfortunately, we do not pay guests to come on our platform. We do not, I repeat come on our platform. We do not repeat on club. Can you see me? OK, he told me it was me. I didn't want me. I knew it wasn't me. Yeah. Huh? That was our tribute.

There it is. Hey, check. So you're good. I'm going to be right back. Give us a minute, baby. Yeah. We are. And what happens, though, Joe, is that unfortunately, we do not pay guests to come on Club Shashey. We would never ask for your information. So please, that is not us. That is no member of Club Shashe that's reaching out, asking you for your banking

information. We do not pay guests to come on Club Shashe. So guys, please be careful. Normally, most of the guests that come on, we do have bookers. We do, I have two. I, a lot of times, will DM the person myself from my account. That's a lot of times how it works. But over the last, and this guy has like 11 different accounts, and we've turned it over to Google.

We turned it over to the FBI. Right. And so we're doing everything that we possibly can, not only to protect ourselves, but to protect my fans that watch and listen to Club Shasha. So, guys, what's up, Ram? How you doing? I got a phone. Go ahead. I mean, as as a former scammer myself, you know, how are people even falling for this? But at some point, they would need to talk to somebody that they're used to hearing or a name that they're used to. Ash, somebody that somebody that you work with,

how can they not even before sending their bank information, actually find out if it's legit and right. How are you getting scammed in 2024? Let's start there. How are you having a zoom call with nobody visible? Like. What are we doing right in 2020? I think the thing is oh Joe look

The platform Club Shaysha has become extremely large. Yes, sir. And some of these people could really could really use The platform to get the reach visibility and so they're looking at it. This is an opportunity It's kind of like the same rate people get scammed in church. They get these insurance scams. They get these pyramids getting schemes because you know, because people really need it. They really need it. And people are taking advantage and people are taking advantage of that. So guys, I'm saying, look, we do not pay guests to come on club Shasha. If somebody emails you and we wouldn't email you directly, we would go through your representative. Cause I have one of the largest problems, I'm with WME.

And so they know everybody that somebody, they're gonna be able to get in touch with your representative or I'm gonna be able to get in touch with your representative or I'm going to be able to reach out to you or I'm going to be able to reach out to somebody that you know. So we're not emailing you. We're not asking for any banking information. So guys, please, please be careful. Please be careful and do not turn over any banking information.

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