Club Shay Shay - Nightcap - Hour 1: Kirk Cousins to Atlanta, Saquon Barkley to Philadelphia, Dallas doesn't go "all-in"

Episode Date: March 12, 2024

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson react to Kirk Cousins signing with the Falcons, Saquon Barkley signing with the Eagles, and discuss what's next for Justin Fields after not finding a ho...me. 0:00 Introduction3:00 Unc talks about Club Shay Shay wins iheartRadio award5:00 Kirk Cousins heading to Falcons15:50 Where could Justin Fields land?18:30 Saquon Barkley heading to Eagles30:00 Cowboys release Tony Pollard32:45 Tee Higgins requests trade and Joe Mixon gets released35:45 Unc says the Bengals should’ve ceased their opportunity to win a Super Bowl38:15 Brian Burns traded to Giants44:15 Dunk on Unc #Club #VolumeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:01:50 Thank you for joining us again For another episode of Nightcap I am your favorite hunk Shannon Sharp He's your favorite number 85 Routrunner extraordinaire Bengals legend Ring of fame
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Starting point is 00:05:40 But first, it's time for our first segment of the night, and it's called News Cap. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Kirk Cousins agrees to a four-year deal, a four-year $180 million contract with the Atlanta Falcons. That deal includes a $50 million signing bonus, another monster payday for Cousins, who gets $110 million guaranteed, and it's a fresh start for him in Atlanta.
Starting point is 00:06:12 Kirk Cousins has now made $330 million guaranteed dollars. Oh, yeah. All the while, he's won one playoff game. Yeah. All this notion is about winning and working. I don't want to hear that. Because our listening and viewing audience knows that is a little job. You paid this man $330 million, Ocho, for one playoff win.
Starting point is 00:06:39 So this notion we play quarterbacks based on what we believe they can do. Well, we got the results right here. Yeah. Well, listen, Kirk Cousins is a very, very, very, very good regular season quarterback. He's been very efficient. His numbers have always been good. And all the teams, obviously, when he was at Minnesota,
Starting point is 00:07:01 the numbers were very, very good. When he was with Washington. I don't want to say the commanders. When he was the commanders, Kirk Cousins is one of the few quarterbacks that said, you know what, I'm going to bet on myself. I'm going to bet on myself. And every time he's bet on himself and every time he's come out on the winning end. He's come out on the winning end, regardless of playoff success,
Starting point is 00:07:25 regardless of his record. He does have a winning record as well, even though he's not a perennial playoff quarterback. I think he's 78 and 72 in his career. Yeah, that would be somewhat winning. And it's funny, depending on who the person is,
Starting point is 00:07:41 the numbers actually don't matter. They don't matter because and that's how bad the quarterback market is because he's so efficient during the regular season. depending on who the person is, the numbers actually don't matter. They don't matter because, and that's how bad the quarterback market is because he's so efficient during the regular season. His numbers are really good based on the supporting cast that he always has around them. He looks great, which is why I think they continue to pay him because you know what you get
Starting point is 00:07:56 when you have him at the helm. He just has no playoff or Superbowl success. Well, numbers, numbers don't matter if we don't want them to matter. Ah. Listen, the goalposts move depending on the individual you're talking
Starting point is 00:08:12 about. The goalposts continuously move. Hey, we pay you based on what you've been able to do for us. What have you done for you? What have you done for me lately is the NFL model, correct? Yes. Especially at the skill position and especially at the quarterback position. Right.
Starting point is 00:08:28 For Kirk Cousins, one thing he's always done, he's one of God's child. He's one of God's children. Chosen people. He's one of them chosen ones, and he's always cashed in. He's a good dude, man. He's a good dude. He's a good dude. It's going to be interesting to see.
Starting point is 00:08:42 I would have read a pretty penny that Justin Fields would be a better fit in Atlanta than Cousins. But, you know, I know Mr. Blank a little bit. Different style. Different style. Very different style. Very different styles. Right. And I think the thing is that Mr. Blank, and I don't know who the GM is there is that look it's like we got Kyle Pitts we got
Starting point is 00:09:06 Drake London we got B. John Robinson we want somebody that can distribute the football right understand what you understand what you're getting with him now so you're not under no illusions that he's going to rush for 500 yards you're not under those illusions no so you know exactly what you're going to get. Your expectations are what they are. Now, so when you look at that division, Ocho, you look at Tampa, Baker Mayfield, you look at the Saints, you got Derek Carr, you look at the Falcons, you got Cousins, you look at the Carolina Panthers, you got Bryce Young.
Starting point is 00:09:42 Yeah. I mean, it's anybody's division. Yeah. Except Carolina because I don't know if I need to see Carolina, Panthers. You got Bryce Young. I mean, it's anybody's division. Except Carolina, because I don't know. I need to see Carolina what pieces they're going to add. They got to make a splash. They got to make a splash in free agency, and they got to make a splash in the draft. They have to. They have to put
Starting point is 00:09:57 some fellas around that young fella, that young bull out there in Carolina, and Bryce Young. But what I like about the move for Kirk Cousins going to Atlanta is the fact that Drake London watched his numbers this year. Kyle Pitts, he hasn't had a year, but he hasn't looked like what we think he was supposed to look like up to this point. But this year, he's going to put up crazy, crazy numbers.
Starting point is 00:10:21 Crazy numbers because one thing that Kirk Cousins could do is he can distribute the ball and he's going to sling it. Right. He's going to sling it. The thing you got to do, you got to protect him, though. Yeah. Because he doesn't have his capabilities. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:35 So you got to protect it. You've got to protect him. So he's not a guy that have great improvisational skills. He's not a guy that if you look at guys, if you let, let's just say for the sake of argument, you take a, a Mahal, you take a Lamar, you take a burrow, you take Josh Allen, you take guys that you can throw away to script. They can get off script and still make plays.
Starting point is 00:10:57 I'm not so sure that's what he is. I think based on his body of work and me watching him, he's not a guy that gets off script very often. He's a guy that needs, hey, go here, but as far as improvisation, the plate breaks down, and I need you to make, you know,
Starting point is 00:11:12 chicken salad out of chicken you know what, that ain't what he is. Yeah. I think most of the time, what we will see from him, if things get a little haywire, I think he will use his legs. Now, things are a little bit different now with him coming off that Achilles injury.
Starting point is 00:11:27 But I think he will be able to distribute the ball efficiently. And the fact with B. John Robinson there, which I'm sure they're going to utilize even more than what they did last year, to kind of not cover up for Kirk's injury, but to protect him a little bit based off of it and just use the run to open up the pass and I think they're going to be just fine. They're going to be just fine. Offensively, man, they're going to do crazy numbers now. They're going to do crazy
Starting point is 00:11:55 numbers. I hope so. I hope so. So now we got Cousins off the market. He's in Minnesota. We got Baker Mayfieldfield he returns to tampa i just read jacoby brissett he's signing a one-year deal with the new england patriots so that's three of the quarterbacks that were free agents that's oh garner meant you he goes to the raiders to the raiders yeah yep and we got and go ahead basically jacoby jacoby brissett is going
Starting point is 00:12:23 to win that battle against sappy so jacoby brissett is going to win that battle against Zappy so Jacoby Brissett is basically the starting quarterback for New England the Bears have reportedly yet to shot Justin Fields within the NFL free agent for
Starting point is 00:12:35 full swing because it opens the league year starts on Wednesday the quarterback opening round of the league has been filled in Rappaport reported
Starting point is 00:12:42 that the Bears haven't held serious trade talks involving fields. They're waiting and not yet fully comfortable with Caleb Williams yet. What are the Bears doing? Because you hear a lot of different things, Ocho. That's smoke and mirrors, Uncle.
Starting point is 00:12:57 You know that, baby. You know that. That ain't nothing but smoke and mirrors. Caleb is one of the most sought out after draft picks coming out into the draft. And that's but smoke and mirrors. Caleb is one of the most sought out after draft pick coming out into the draft. And that's all smoke and mirrors. All smoke and mirrors. You know what the Bears doing.
Starting point is 00:13:12 You know what the Bears doing. They not showing their hand. They know exactly where they're going with their first pick. Goddamn Ray Charles can see that. Stevie Wonder can see that. And I mean, no disrespect to them. You know, they playing game. They playing mind games.
Starting point is 00:13:24 They're trying to wait for the right call, the right opportunity, and to get the right conversation. But you're harming yourself though, Ocho. You think so? These positions are getting built. Teams are taking the quarterbacks. Teams are taking the quarterbacks, but again, we talk about Justin Fields.
Starting point is 00:13:40 I still think they're... Can he go to Atlanta? No, he can't go to Atlanta. That's where I thought he was going. I thought he was going to Atlanta, honestly. So now, can he go? You think he can go to New England? Is that a possibility after the COVID percent?
Starting point is 00:13:55 I mean, no. The Raiders might be still in play. Regardless of Minshew, they still might be in play. But Ocho, here's the thing. Yes, sir. If houses on the market, and I want to sell my house, but all the houses are being bought up, at some point in time, you're like, well, damn, I might be stuck. Hey, but this is one thing. Even if the houses are being bought up, there's a house that hasn't been bought yet that might be better than some of the ones that have been bought based on play style and what they can do, being able to improvise, being a dual threat,
Starting point is 00:14:25 being able to throw, being able to run as well. So he might even be a better fit, even though that specific house hasn't been bought in reference to Justin Fields. So still, still he had the chance. I think it's very important that his next move or the Bears next move, and also Justin Fields next move has to be their best move. Not just moving them just to move them, but moving them for a reason with a cause so we can be successful because the change of scenery is always good because you know what you get with Justin
Starting point is 00:14:54 Fields. If I'm getting, look here, if I'm selling you a car, I don't give a damn if it don't crank tomorrow. That ain't got nothing to do with me. You bought it. So you talking about me trading him where he could be successful. That ain't got nothing to do with me. Oh yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:05 Well, honestly, you know, honestly, wherever he goes, he going to be successful. He's going to be able to change the franchise. Now,
Starting point is 00:15:12 am I talking about, is he like this franchise changing type quarterback? No, but he's a quarterback that you know, you can, that you can play with one that can win one that can make plays. And if, if,
Starting point is 00:15:23 if he goes to a team, if he goes to a team that has a good running back and a decent receiving core, it can get scary. It can get nice. Okay, think about the place. Okay, he can't go to Buffalo. No. Is he going to the Jets with Aaron Rodgers there? No.
Starting point is 00:15:41 Is he going to Miami with Tua? No, no, no. Because they're getting ready to pay Tua. No. He's at Justin Fields with Tua? No, no, no. They're getting ready to pay Tua, no. Justin Fields is the starting quarterback. There's still, what, 28, 27 other teams. Let's try to fill a few of them. You don't believe he can go to New England?
Starting point is 00:15:57 No, because they just signed Brissette. Pittsburgh an option? No, because Russell is there now. Is Cleveland an option? Absolutely. Deshaun is there now Is Cleveland an option? Absolutely, Deshaun is there Is Cincinnati an option? You know, Dan Wells Is Baltimore an option? No
Starting point is 00:16:13 Is Jacksonville an option? No, they got Trevor Lawrence And they just brought in Matt Jones Is Indian an option? They just took Richardson with the third pick Is that an option? No, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:16:27 Is the Houston Texans an option? Oh, shit. Boy, we should get serious now, right? Okay. Tennessee. It's Tennessee. Tennessee might be in play, right? They got Will Levis.
Starting point is 00:16:38 No, they got Will Levis and the backup. They got Malik Willis. Okay. Let's just set that to the side. That's a possibility. Let's go into the AFC West. Denver? Ah, now we're talking. Now we're talking. We're making some noise.
Starting point is 00:16:54 Kansas City? No. No, no, no, no. The Chargers? No. The Raiders in Denver. Yeah. Raiders, Denver. Raiders, Denver, and Tennessee. Three positive. Tennessee?
Starting point is 00:17:09 I still believe Tennessee. I believe Justin Fields is better than anything they have. That's just me. So you don't like Will Levis? I like Will Levis. Not more than I like Justin Fields. Okay. We know the Eagles
Starting point is 00:17:23 are an option. No. Washington seems to be in play for one of these three. Uh-uh. They're drafting a quarterback. Okay. They're not giving them that third pick of the draft. They're drafting their quarterback. Okay, okay. Cowboys, no go. The Giants, maybe.
Starting point is 00:17:39 Hey, now even if they did just pay Daniel Jones all that money, that might be a good look now. That might be a good look. That's no disrespect to Daniel Jones. NFC South, we just named those quarterbacks. We know nothing that NFC South is doing. Yeah, right.
Starting point is 00:17:54 NFC North, Green Bay, Jordan. Absolutely not. Okay. Come on now. The Lions. No, no, no. No. Jared Goff. No. Jared Goff is playing too goddamn well. No. No, no. Jared Goff. No. Jared Goff is playing
Starting point is 00:18:06 too goddamn well. Okay. The Bears is already in that division, so they're looking to draft a quarterback number one. Minnesota. Is Minnesota in play? Do you trade them within the division? They're the third team. Do you trade them within the division? Do you think the teams care about that?
Starting point is 00:18:22 Most of the time, you think so? Yeah. Normally, they try to put your ass in a different conference. They ain't trying to trade you within the conference, let alone within the division. Well, hell, if you don't want to trade, if you feel that much about me and if you value that much,
Starting point is 00:18:40 were you scared to trade me in the conference? Well, goddamn, why are you trying to get rid of me in the first place? Let me ask you a question. I know you don't want to lose your lady, but do you want to lose her to the next door neighbor or do you want to lose a guy out of another state? I like that. That's a good analogy. That's a good analogy.
Starting point is 00:18:57 I don't want to lose you, but if you go, you can't go next door. Right, right, right. You can't go in the same subdivision. Right. So, I just think the thing is that, I mean, it's coming down. And to see, it's going to be very interesting. I think some of the teams that we name, they might be in play. There might be some interest.
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Starting point is 00:21:05 Saquon Barkley. They gave him three years. $37.75 million. Saquon joins the rival. We've seen this before. We see T.O. lead the Eagles, go to the Cowboys. Cowboys. We see Prime lead the Cowboys, go to Washington.
Starting point is 00:21:22 So, excuse me, this is not abnormal, but we don't see it often. Often, yeah. His number places him behind. Christian McCaffrey still has the highs at $16 million. Alvin Kamara at $15 million. Jonathan Taylor, I think, is about $14 million.
Starting point is 00:21:40 And Saquon is slightly behind that. The Giants opted not to place the franchise tag on Barkley for the second straight year, which would have cost them $12.1 million. Saquon, here's where it gets interesting. Tiki Barber posted, he tore into Saquon for the decision to sign with the rival Eagles, saying, he's dead to us now. You're dead to us, Saquon.
Starting point is 00:22:04 That's what Tiki Barber tweeted. Saquon shot back at Tiki Barber. Yo, LOL. Yo, you're the prime example of loyalty to a team. Barkley shot back on social media. I got the deal I wanted. Secured more guaranteed money, which was given to me before. So if the fans are going to hate me for that,
Starting point is 00:22:26 so be it. But I've never turned my back on my teammates and I've always had theirs. At Tiki Bar, you've been a bit of a hater since I got to New York. All the dead talk to me. Don't smile in my face when you see me. Ooh.
Starting point is 00:22:43 First of all, congratulations, Saquon. Congratulations, Saquon. He is. He's from Pennsylvania. So he went to Penn State. Yeah. Right back home. Right back home. And listen, if the New York Giants valued
Starting point is 00:22:59 Saquon Barkley the way they should have, for what he's able to do and what he can do. I can see the skill set. Everyone else has seen the skill set. Philadelphia is going to show you that you shouldn't have got rid of him, and he's going to show you this season. You know what you get with him. Right.
Starting point is 00:23:17 Out the backfield, catching, running, off tackle, stretch, hit his head off the goalpost from anywhere on the field. That's the type of player he is. But oh, now Tiki want to make noise. You should have shot shots at the Giants organization, but not taking care of him when he asked the first time.
Starting point is 00:23:37 Talk about you dead to me. You should have tweeted to the Giants that. Tiki should have tweeted to the Giants. You know what? Y'all dead to me because you're understanding how dynamic this individual individual is how dynamic and the game changer
Starting point is 00:23:51 that saquon barkley is the fact that y'all don't even want to pay him but now you not saquon leaves and goes to philly now tiki want to talk about you dead to me matter of fact it's so funny hey uh but it was it was more in a playful manner but But the Giants, not the Giants, the Bengals got stones from Baltimore. Yeah. And Lamar said, hey, you did to me. Hey, that was so funny. But obviously, they were just playing. They were just playing.
Starting point is 00:24:19 Two years, seven. Lamar Jackson also tweeted a picture of TK and Saquon. He said, you did to us, Saququon good luck to me you're dead to me my new quote my new quote you're dead to me I guess so LJC that's what he's going to be using I don't get it
Starting point is 00:24:38 I mean but that's what happens so if you see so imagine if players feel that way how do you think the fans feel when they've been so invested 10, 15, 20, 30, 40, 50 years? Now you see why the fans. Hey, you don't want to pay the guy. Hey, I'm going to be cool. I'm going to be cool.
Starting point is 00:24:58 Any of my guys that left Denver or left Baltimore and got more money, I'm still going to be cool. I ain't going to be good. Hey, man, you should have stayed and took that little bit of money they offered. Nah. From what I've been reading, they didn't even offer Saquon.
Starting point is 00:25:11 Nah, they probably didn't. They probably didn't because if they wanted to pay him, they would have paid him the first time because you know what you get. You know what you get. There's no reason to play with him. Right. Listen, they don't value the quarterback position
Starting point is 00:25:21 the way they once did. Running back. Running back. Yeah, my bad. They don't value the quarterback. Oh, they once did. The running back. Yeah, my bad. They don't value the quarterback. Oh, my God. What is wrong with me? I'm talking too damn fast.
Starting point is 00:25:30 Let me slow down a little bit. They don't value the running back position the way they once did because the game has changed. It's a passing league now. But again, he is dynamic. He is different. He's in a class of his own along with maybe three other running backs in the NFL. That's the type of guy you pay. I have a question for you, Hank. Who was the best
Starting point is 00:25:49 offensive threat for the Giants last year? I think one. It ain't rocket science. It ain't rocket science. This is what we know. Quarterback is the only position that'll get paid based on what potential, based on what we know Quarterback is the only position That'll get paid Based on what potential
Starting point is 00:26:07 Based on what we think he can do All the other positions Gotta prove it to your force Running back, wide receiver, offensive line, D-line Everybody else must prove it Not the quarterback Because what is Daniel Jones proving? Listen, in Daniel Jones' situation,
Starting point is 00:26:27 you know when they say timing is everything? When they tell you timing is everything, that is the prime example of Daniel Jones' situation where there was nowhere else to go. There was nowhere else available. They had his fifth year option. They could have picked up his fifth year option. Just guaranteed that and they'd have been home free.
Starting point is 00:26:45 But there's the fake one. Nah, we want to lowball you. Do this. And now what you got on your hand? Now you got to make a decision. You might have $40 million in dead cap space dealing with Daniel Jones if you don't keep him. And you know what's funny? They don't have a problem
Starting point is 00:27:00 with that. They don't have a problem with it. They don't have a problem with the dead cap space. But until the Giants find consistent quarterback play, nothing's going to work. Nothing's going to work. And I like Daniel Jones. I like Daniel Jones. And I like the supporting cast he has
Starting point is 00:27:15 around him. And he should be fine. He should be fine. He should be fine. Daniel Jones is what he is. That's not nice. That's not nice, huh? It is what it is. I mean, hey. That's not nice. That's not nice, huh? It is what it is. I mean, hey. That's not nice. I'm not going to allow you to put perfume, lipstick, and a dress on a pig and tell me that's Miss America. I'm not going to let you do it.
Starting point is 00:27:35 I'm not going to let you tell me if we put weapons around Daniel Jones, all of a sudden he's going to turn into this great quarterback. He is what he is. Okay, I like what you just said. Did you hear what you just said? Yes. You put great weapons around a quarterback that's mediocre,
Starting point is 00:27:49 that quarterback begins to look exceptionally well. Excuse me. You put great weapons around. Matter of fact, how about learn how to use the goddamn players you got? Learn how to use
Starting point is 00:28:00 Sterling Shepard. Learn how to use Jalen Hyatt. Learn how to use some of the goddamn tools you had to make Other people's job around you easy then you wouldn't be in this damn situation No, it don't matter what type of gun I give you if you don't know how to shoot it. It's worthless to you So I can give you all these I can give so what good of cars I give you a Bugatti I can give you a rose. I can give you a range. I can give you a g-wagon
Starting point is 00:28:25 But if you don't know how to drive what good are they? I can give you a Bugatti. I can give you a Rolls. I can give you a Range. I can give you a G-Wagon. But if you don't know how to drive, what good are they? Right. They nice to look at. You right. You right. You right. Look at Tyrod Taylor and the two games that he got in there.
Starting point is 00:28:44 Look how he made those same weapons that Daniel Jones looked lost and guys were frustrated. Look how they look with Tyrod. Tyrod is still with the Giants, right? I don't know. He might be a free agent. I'm not sure. Yeah, that's someone that they need to bring back just for insurance purposes in case things don't go well. Obviously, Daniel Jones, somewhat of a, I don't want to use the word injury prone. I don't like saying that. But just coming off that injury, I think having Tyrod Taylor there to be able to be a backup once again if things don't go the way they should.
Starting point is 00:29:17 Right. The all-in Cowboys lose Tony Pollard, Dorrance Armstrong, day one of NFL free agency. Tony Pollard, Dorrance Armstrong, day one of NFL free agency. The Dallas Cowboys could have created cap space by extending Dak, who's entering the final year of his deal with a cap hit of 59.4 million. Instead, Jerry did nothing in regards to the cap and watched Tyler Biotis, running back Tony Pollard, and edge rusher Dorrance Armstrong all agree to terms to go elsewhere. The same is likely going to happen to left tackle Tyron Smith.
Starting point is 00:29:48 Let me ask you a question. Yes, sir. How the all-in looking? How the who? The all-in that Jerry Jones said he going all-in this year. How the looking? You know what? The all-in ain't start yet.
Starting point is 00:29:59 I don't know when he going to crank it up, but it ain't start yet. I mean, I'm assuming he going to make a splash. When he going to make it, I'm not sure. Is he going to make the splash in free agency, or is he going to make the splash in the draft? Somewhere, the words all in has to come into play. We just don't know because he's not showing his hand yet. He's not showing his hand yet. Hey,
Starting point is 00:30:16 maybe the splash might be all in. Maybe Derrick Henry would have started on his helmet. What you think? I look at it like maybe he's talking about, but there's no possible way you're gonna sign cd and you're gonna sign a micah with that number at 59 million you got to do something cd listen cd justin jefferson and jamar chase everybody's playing a game of chicken because they're waiting they're waiting they're waiting they're waiting you go then i'm gonna get
Starting point is 00:30:44 one of you guys. And then he going to go, and I'm going to get more than all of them. So that's what. Right, right, right. So nobody wants to let, hey, we just sit back. We're going to see. See, these, like, everybody's trying to get to that Tyreek. Everybody's trying to get into that 30 mil bracket.
Starting point is 00:30:55 That 30 mil. Yeah. Because Tyreek is out there. Mm-hmm. See, they say, hey, y'all see what I did. I led the NFC in catches, yards, and 52nd in touchdowns. Right. I'm saying the
Starting point is 00:31:09 NFC, not the league. He led the league. Tyreek led the league in yards. And I forget who led the league in touchdowns. It may have been Tyreek. But so I'm just saying, how do you sign all of those guys
Starting point is 00:31:24 when you got a quarterback that's counting $60 million, don't you? And you know, hold on. Did you see what Stone Cold Jones, Chris Jones got? Oh, yeah. So what do you think, Micah? What do you think Micah's thinking? Well, whoa. Okay.
Starting point is 00:31:43 You're right. You're right. But I have a question Well, yes Micah is on that tier Let me stop But we talked That's a D tackle now
Starting point is 00:31:50 D tackle's in The end He looking at DM You see what Pull up So who make Who make Pull up Joey Bosa number
Starting point is 00:32:01 And What's the other one Miles Garrett Let's pull up their numbers That's number and what's the other one? Miles Garrett. Let's pull up their numbers. That's what he's looking at. They make 21 a year, right? Yeah. Yeah, I think if I'm not mistaken off the top of my head, I think they make 21 a year.
Starting point is 00:32:15 But that Chris Jones and that Aaron Donald, Chris Jones, that them D-tackles, that's different type of money, boy. That's a different type of money. Can the defensive ends and linebackers command different type of money, boy. That's different type of money. Can the defensive ends and linebackers command that kind of dollar? Yeah. We got to look and see. Look and see. Ash is pulling up a Joey Bosa contract and Miles Garrett. Right.
Starting point is 00:32:35 And I think both of those guys are like 100 million guaranteed. Yeah. And you know the funny thing about it? Like 24, 25? Yeah. This is the cream of the crop, too. These are the cream of the crop. So they can command that kind of money, man. Yes.
Starting point is 00:32:51 Jerry going to figure it out. I'm not sure how. But you know how owners do. You know how they do. Joey Bosa got five years, $135 million, $105 guaranteed. Michael Parsons says, I'm going to need more than that. What did Miles Garrett get?
Starting point is 00:33:09 All I know is Michael's going to want more than $105,000. Right. He's probably looking at $5,000, $155,000, $175,000. That's Michael. He's going to reset the market. Oh, for sure. I think David Muguleta is his agent. Yes, sir.
Starting point is 00:33:27 He might be looking to get 40 a year. Miles Garrett got five years, 125, 100 million guaranteed. Bosa comes behind him, gets an extra 10 million with an extra 5 million more guaranteed. Now, you got to realize when these deals were signed. That was two years ago. Look at where the cap is now. Yeah. It's going to continue to grow. That 105, Micah's going to probably look to get 125. And he's going to
Starting point is 00:33:56 probably look to get north of 150. That's the great thing about the NFL. And that's the great thing about the cap. It's going to always go up. Now, the cap. It's going to always go up. Now, hold on. It's going to always go up. What you going to do with that? You see Cousins just got 45 a year.
Starting point is 00:34:13 He just got 50 million to sign, 100 million guaranteed. What's Dak looking for? Whisper it in my ear. 60. 60. Okay. 60, and I ain't talking about Roland Hold on
Starting point is 00:34:29 CD He gonna be looking To get 89 at Tyreek got 77 guaranteed So he gotta reset The mark but listen CD Chase CD Chase, CD Chase and Jefferson,
Starting point is 00:34:48 they all sent back, sent back like this. Somebody, somebody got to go. Somebody got to set it off. But see, I don't want to sit down with you. They can't wait.
Starting point is 00:34:58 I don't want to be first. I know y'all looking at me. See, if I let y'all see my outfit, y'all going to run back and change your outfit and get something better to buy. I don't want that to happen, Coach. I don't want that be first. I know y'all looking at me. See, if I let y'all see my outfit, y'all going to run back and change your outfit and get something better to buy. I don't want that to happen, Ochoa.
Starting point is 00:35:08 I don't want that to happen. Yeah. All right, that's going to be good, man. I'm excited for them boys, man. I'm excited for them boys. So am I. Check this out, Ochoa. T. Higgins requests a trade from the Bengals after no progress on a long-term deal.
Starting point is 00:35:20 If he gets his way, T. Higgins will be playing football somewhere else other than Cincinnati next season. He requested a trade because the team has not had any discussion about a long-term contract extension. The Bengals placed a franchise tag on Higgins, which he said to make $21.8 million on the tag. But, of course, that only secures him one year of financial security. secures him one year of financial security. And also, the Bengals cut Joe Mixon and signed
Starting point is 00:35:48 Zach Moss to a two-year, $8 million contract. Man, they cut my dog Mix, man. Yeah, yeah. He ain't in the mix no more. Come on, man. Golly, boy. Man, he just took a pay cut just to come back.
Starting point is 00:36:04 Mm-hmm. See? You see what they did there? What? Man, he just took a pay cut just to come back. See? You see what they did now? Wait, he just took a pay cut. Listen, I want to be a team player. I want to keep the band together so we can make another run. He took a pay cut just to come back. And I ain't even know that.
Starting point is 00:36:19 I know. Who on your team? When you say, oh, Team Ocho. Rail and my kids. That's my team Damn man Fuck I I love Mix I know he gonna land somewhere
Starting point is 00:36:30 Zach Moss I like Zach I like Zach I like Zach Nothing bad to say about him But um They're different backs Yeah
Starting point is 00:36:39 Yeah completely different But T Higgins situation I think One thing that the Bengals always do very well, they've always done very well, is they're going to have them some goddamn receivers. It's one thing about
Starting point is 00:36:52 them, they're going to always have them some receivers and always come into issues like this. You got, to me, honestly, this is the way I view Tee, and this is the way I view Jamar Chase. The Bengals were very fortunate to have two number ones on the field. Very fortunate. Different styles of play,
Starting point is 00:37:08 two different receivers. It's a million ways to skin a cat. But to me, they had two number one wide receivers in T. Higgins and Jamar Chase. I mean, not Jamar Chase. T. Higgins deserved to be paid like a number one receiver. Sometimes
Starting point is 00:37:23 everybody can't stay. Sometimes everybody can't stay. No, sometimes everybody, sometimes everybody can't stay. And what T is deserving of is that number one got their money. Now, as much as I love my bangles, as much as I love my bangles,
Starting point is 00:37:37 T is deserving and being paid like the player that he is. And that's the number one, because on any other team, because you know how you talk to people, you talk to casual fans that love the game, they'll say, oh, Jamar Chase is number one and T's is number two. Hell, hell shit, no, you got me fooled.
Starting point is 00:37:55 Them two number ones. And he deserves to be paid as such. So I understand his request to be, you know, ask for a trade because it's going to be hard. You just paid Joe. And you know, asked for a trade because it's going to be hard. You just paid Joe. And you know Chase. Shit, boy, they're going to have to
Starting point is 00:38:10 back the goddamn brink truck up out there in Cincinnati at pay call for Chase. You know, everybody can't fit. And T, you can't take no hometown discount. Oh, no. You can't do that.
Starting point is 00:38:21 Not on the first contract. You got to strike while it's hot. Yeah. That's something you do on the back end if you choose. I advise against first contract. You got to strike while it's hot. Yeah. That's something you do on the back end if you choose. I advise against it, but if you choose to do it, have at it. I think the thing is, Ocho, this is why when you get an opportunity to bite that apple, which is the Super Bowl, you got to seize the moment.
Starting point is 00:38:40 You see, now there's a possibility you lose T. Higgins. You lost Jesse Bates. Mixon has gone away. Now, you believe that you replaced Mixon with Zach Moss, but the opportunities. Right. You know, see, if they were to tear this thing down with Kansas City, you can't promote them. They're like, bro, we got three and five years.
Starting point is 00:38:56 What more could you ask for? Yeah, they were there for the fourth. They could have had four and five years, but they got three and five years. But a lot of this had to do with Patrick Mahomes and the money that he didn't get. Because if they would have paid Patrick Mahomes and said, no, I want my true value, you got to pay him 60, 65 million.
Starting point is 00:39:17 And you got to give him $150, $200 million guaranteed. But because he didn't do that, but Clark Hunt assured him, we'll revisit this in a couple of years. Oh, yeah. They're going to keep doing it. They're going to keep doing it. But again,
Starting point is 00:39:33 this is the one thing I like about the Bengals. The scouting department, Duke Tobin, Duke, I know you're going to see this. They do a great job. Again,
Starting point is 00:39:41 I'll say it again. When it comes to drafting, motherfucking receivers, I'm a curse just so I can add a little flavor and seasoning to this statement. When it comes to drafting receivers, they don't miss. They do not miss. You know what Uncle Sam come take the taxes out to check? That's the motherfucking bangles when it comes to drafting receivers.
Starting point is 00:40:00 Now, there's somebody that they got their eye on. I don't know who it may be. Or maybe they work out something with T. I'm eye on. I don't know who it may be. Or maybe they work out something with T. I'm not sure, but I know it's impossible. I know it's impossible to pay both of them. T deserves what he deserves, but I know one thing. Their goddamn scouting department with the Bengals, brother Duke, they're going to draft somebody that can be able to fill the role.
Starting point is 00:40:20 I'm not sure. Free agency, maybe through free agency, but I think more so in the draft. And listen, they have a great core of receivers that are there right now that can fill the role. They won't beat T. Higgins, but they are good.
Starting point is 00:40:33 They are efficient. They've showed their ass this year that they can fill in when T was out. The Giants trade for Panthers past Russian Brian Burns gave him $150 million. Okay, he just got 150 million.
Starting point is 00:40:47 What do you think Micah looking for? What do you think Micah looking for? Yeah, you right. You right. You right. Micah is. Okay. I'm trying to figure out how to say it in a respectful way.
Starting point is 00:40:58 Brian Burns is that boy. You heard me? You want him or Micah? Micah, of course. But the fact that. I agree with you of course But the fact that The fact that We just basically And I agree with you, Ojo I think the fact that he's in Carolina
Starting point is 00:41:10 The fact that he's in Carolina We don't understand How good and great Brother Burns is Oh, yeah Hey, that boy there Boy, he could play some ball, man He could play some ball
Starting point is 00:41:19 He could play some goddamn ball Off the edge I like him Which is why he was able to command what he did Because when you turn the film on It's one thing the film and the eye in the sky ain't gonna do It ain't gonna lie to you It ain't gonna never lie to you
Starting point is 00:41:33 Carolina They lose Brian Burns They get a second and a fifth from the Giants But they just played a guard A hundred million dollars Yeah The left guard, right? from the Giants, but they just played a guard. $100 million. The left guard, right? Yeah, they got him from the Dolphins, Robert Hunt.
Starting point is 00:41:53 They allowed linebacker Frankie Louisville to lead three years, $36 million to the Commanders. Mm-hmm. Let's let you know they don't know if they do it. They previously turned down a pair of first round picks from the Rams. They turned
Starting point is 00:42:11 down two first round picks from the Rams for Brian Burns only to accept a second and a fifth. Yeah. So, listen, the fact that they turned down two first, right? What does that tell you about Brian Burns? That tells me they don't know the Carolina,
Starting point is 00:42:27 I don't know the F they doing. They don't know what they doing, but it also tells you the greatness and how they felt about Brian Burns and understanding how good he was. But at some point, at some point, you know what, this relationship is just really not working. It's not working.
Starting point is 00:42:43 We're trying to show you how much we value you, but you know when you show value, you can show me that with the checkbook. You show me that with the checkbook. Show me how much you love me. Show me how much you value me as a player in this organization and pay me what you know I deserve. A lot of me.
Starting point is 00:43:01 You know what I'm saying? A lot of me. I don't know if you remember the conversation I remember the conversation I remember seeing the conversation lie to me Nikki Giovanni and James Baldwin was having a conversation
Starting point is 00:43:15 and James Baldwin was trying to explain to you and she was telling him lie to me she said when you go down there to that white man's job you smile in his face you tell him how happy you are knowing all the why when you go down there that white man job you smile in his face you tell him how happy you are right no and all the wise you can't stand that man good but you come home to me right i love you the most and get the least from you brian burns that i gave you the most and you gave me your lease so a lot of me even if you don't feel that way give me a contract a lot of me
Starting point is 00:43:43 like you lie to everybody else you got to hold that goddamn thought boy that was a good one you hear me baby hey bring me a pen and paper real quick I got to write this shit down
Starting point is 00:43:55 it's all you got to look let me put that in my nose that was good now that was good yeah hold on
Starting point is 00:44:04 listen I got a book I got a book I'm saving all the news Let me put that in my nose. That was good, man. That was good. Yeah. Hold on, hold on, hold on. Listen, I got a book. I got a book. I'm saving all the notes you just said. That was a good one. I'm going to send you, I'm going to send you to what you call him. I'm going to send you the link
Starting point is 00:44:14 where you can hear her having a conversation with James Baldwin and how she said that, you know, she said, and she was telling him, James Baldwin said, if I love you, I can't lie to you. She said, sure you can. She said, you do it all the time James Baldwin said, if I love you, I can't lie to you. She said, sure you can. She said, you do it all the time.
Starting point is 00:44:28 Right. Give it to me again. Give it to me again. I'm going to put it in my nose. What you want? What you want? You said you go down there every time. She said, you go down to that white man's job and you lie.
Starting point is 00:44:39 You pretend you're smiling, you grinning in his face, and you pretend like you're so happy on the job. You hate it all the while. But you come home to me. I love you the most and get the least from you. I don't take credit for that. Nikki Giovanni. She's at Virginia Tech. Her and James Baldwin was having a conversation in the early 70s, and she was explaining to him.
Starting point is 00:45:07 And she said, hey, and she said, look. And Billy Holiday, she said, hush, I don't explain. I don't need you to explain why you love me. No, you don't understand. No, that is so simple, but that's so good. And my next argument, I'm using that. And my next, I love you. Wait, I love you too. Damn it. I love you the most, but I get the least from you. But I get the least. Yes. I'm using that. I love you the most, but I get the least.
Starting point is 00:45:39 And I'm going to be very passionate about it. I'm going to be very passionate about it. Hey, I know I'm going to win because most of the time, you know, say happy wife, happy life. And I always say my favorite line when we get into it, I say, listen, you want to be happy, you want to be right because you can't be both. But when I hit it with that line, I love you the most, but I get the least and I'm going to just walk off and let that shit marinate. I'm going to just walk off. And let that shit marinate. I'm going to let it marinate. So if you walk off and you don't engage,
Starting point is 00:46:09 the last thing that they have to think about is the last thing you said. You right. Yeah. Yeah. Hey. I put it in my notes. I put it in my notes. Thank you.
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Starting point is 00:47:20 Listen now on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. It's time for the fan favorite, Ocho. You know what it is. It's time for Dunk on Up. Let's see if I can go perfect tonight. Nah, you ain't going perfect tonight because you didn't go perfect last night.
Starting point is 00:47:47 Oh. Ain't no way. Ain't no way. Let me see. Hold your hands up. Let me see your hands. Make sure you don't got no phone in your hands. I ain't got no phone in my hand. Okay.
Starting point is 00:47:55 Who around you? Make sure ain't nobody around you. Ain't nobody here, but Jordan. Jordan way across the room. Okay. Okay. I got a... Okay. Here we go.
Starting point is 00:48:04 We ready? Jordan know less about football than Rayo. All right, you ready? Yes. Come on, Chaz, stay with me now. Which NFC team currently has the largest streak of playoff teams? One more time.
Starting point is 00:48:19 Which NFC team currently has the longest streak of playoff appearances? Wow. Which NFC team currently has the longest streak of playoff appearances? Wow. Which NFC team currently has a... That's a good one, too. It is. And the funny thing about the answer, I didn't even know it was them. Oh, that's crazy.
Starting point is 00:48:44 Ah, don't do that. Why are you cheating? Why are you cheating? The Browns. NFC. Yeah. Which NFC team currently has the largest streak largest streak of playoff appearances. You mean the longest you mean the longest streak. Longest I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:49:04 Well, I said largest. I'm sorry. Longest. Longest. Let me see my white face, man. I mean, should we have a time limit or should I just give you as much time as you want? You got to think about it. NFC got 16 teams. Okay.
Starting point is 00:49:25 So I got to do process of elimination.C got 16 teams. Okay, okay. So I got to do process of elimination. All right, matter of fact, I'm going to let you do process of elimination. Baby, do me a favor. Lift that light up a little bit. It's not... No, no, it's not Saints. It's not the Falcons.
Starting point is 00:49:37 It's not Carolina. It's not the... I'm going to try to fix my light in a little bit because... Brady got one, two... Oh, no. Oh, no, that's too much. Never mind, never mind, never mind. Four.
Starting point is 00:49:52 Oh man, I don't know. I'm gonna say Tampa. I'm gonna say Tampa. Okay, wait a minute. Wait a minute. Listen, listen, listen. Let's stop right here. Now, I asked you for a specific answer, so you have to be confident.
Starting point is 00:50:08 I said Tampa. What's the answer? The answer is the Buccaneers. They got fourth grade. Listen, how do you know? Nah, somebody told you. Somebody told you in the background, man. Y'all cheating over there, man. Come on, man.
Starting point is 00:50:24 Come on, man. Come on, man. Hey, this is what I did. That's why I said I got a process of elimination. I said Brady was there for three years. He went to the playoffs all three years he was there. And then one more year with Baker Mayfield. So that's four. Right.
Starting point is 00:50:38 The Eagles went to. So the Cowboys, they missed the playoffs, but they went. So I just process of elimination. I'm sorry. I ain't buying that. Somebody in here. Somebody in here. You know, it took all that time. There are so many other teams
Starting point is 00:50:52 that it could have been. You could have said the 49ers. You could have said the Cowboys because they always getting bounced. But you didn't say them. All of you just randomly just went to the bucks of all teams. Yes! Child, please. That's why my mind won't say them. You all of you just randomly just went to the Bucs of all teams. Yes! Child, please.
Starting point is 00:51:07 That's why you're my mind work, Ocho. That's why I said, let me do process of elimination. Listen, the Buccaneers have made the playoffs four straight seasons, longest in the NFC. 49ers, Cowboys, and Eagles are all tied with three.
Starting point is 00:51:20 Yeah, I ain't... Somebody on the back end cheating over there, man. Ocho, when I say Jordan knows less football than Real, I ain't lying. Listen, y'all have gadgets and all type of technology over there. And somebody get. Matter of fact, you know what somebody could be doing? What?
Starting point is 00:51:36 They could be writing the answer down and holding up on a paper for you when you ain't got it right. You know, you got an asterisk. You got an asterisk by the answer. We's at the Super Bowl. We walk by so many NFL players. He asking me, oh, who that? Nah, he done Googled. He done Googled what to say.
Starting point is 00:51:55 All right, next question. Yes. Does that count? Chat. Chat, does that count as an answer? I got it. It took you an hour to answer. Ouch.
Starting point is 00:52:05 If this was a game show, you would have been, the clock would have went out. I'm going to get 20 seconds. Plus, you was reading it wrong. You said the largest. It's the largest. Largest, longest. You knew it. You knew what I mean.
Starting point is 00:52:17 Okay, come on. I'm going to get it. Come on, let's go. Question number two. There have only been two NFL seasons, only two, with both a 5,000-yard passer and a 2,000-yard rusher, one in 1984 and one in 2012. Name the quarterback and running back from each of those seasons.
Starting point is 00:52:43 Well, Dan Marino and E.D. did it because Dan was MVP and Eric Dickerson was the offensive player of the year. E.D. rushed for 21-05. Dan Marino threw for 5,084 with 48 touchdowns. Yeah, see, I remember that. I bet you know the other two. I'm going to say
Starting point is 00:52:58 I'm going to say Drew Brees threw for 5,000 for the Saints. I'm going to say Chris Johnson rushed for 2,000 for the Tennessee Titans. You got half an answer right, though. And you know Drew because he threw for multiple 5,000-yard seasons, right? Oh, no, hell no. Jamal did that way before then. With Jamal?
Starting point is 00:53:21 Jamal Charles? No, Jamal Lewis. Okay. No, no. Hold on. Hold on. Let me go. Let's Charles? No, Jamal Lewis. Okay. No, no. Hold on. Hold on. Let me go. Let's see. 2000. ED did it. Barry did it. TD did it. Chris Johnson did it. Derrick Henry did it.
Starting point is 00:53:36 You're missing somebody. Jamal did it. Matter of fact, you're missing... Barry did it. But Barry did it in 1997. Okay, but listen. You got the first half right. Dan Marino and Eric Dickerson. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:50 But remember, the years I said, the key word, there have only been two NFL seasons with both a 5,000-yard passer and 2,000-yard... Big Ben? No, listen, stay with me now. A 5,000-yard passer, 2,000-yard rusher, one in 1984 and the other one in 2012 2012 so remember Drew Brees, obviously he's had multiple 5,000 yard seasons
Starting point is 00:54:12 so that's one, so think about the running back 2012, this is so easy you ain't even name him he's arguably one of the best backs of all time easily oh, oh, oh my God. No, actually it wasn't.
Starting point is 00:54:29 Yes, yes it was. It was Adrian Peterson. Bingo. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So you only got, you only got half the answer. I missed that one.
Starting point is 00:54:38 I missed that one. Yeah. All right. Okay, here we go. Number three. Oh, this, hey, this that boy too, boy. It's that boy. Both of them.
Starting point is 00:54:46 Which running back has the highest yards per carry average with a minimum of 750 rushing attempts in NFL history? Which running back has the highest yards per carry? Why you seem so disappointed, Ocho? Hell nah, man. You don't even know nothing about no running backs like that to know that answer like that off rip, man. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:14 Nah, hell nah. Is that right? Was I right? Who cheated? Yeah, you right, man. Lift your hands up, man. I'm here right here. Man, somebody back there helping you, man.
Starting point is 00:55:22 How we going to play a game of you cheating? Ocho, why would I cheat? Hey, answer the question. The same reason you be telling me I be cheating when I'm spelling when I know my words. Because I see you looking down. I ain't looking down.
Starting point is 00:55:33 I'm looking right in the camera. You be looking down. You looking straight ahead and somebody behind your camera with the sign with the answers. You think Ash gonna give me the answers? You don't know Ash. Somebody gonna give me the answers.
Starting point is 00:55:44 Man, yeah. Listen, Jamal Charles with 5.5 yards per carry followed by goddamn Nick Chubb with 5.3. Yes. Damn, man. Man, you cheating over there, man.
Starting point is 00:55:54 Something ain't right. I'm gonna cheat you, Ocho. Ocho, that's just that knowledge, man. I'm just telling you, Ocho. Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah. You listen. You don't know more about football than me now.
Starting point is 00:56:03 That's what we not gonna do now. You don't do that. I tell you what,'s what we not going to do now Don't do that I tell you what, okay, how about this though, Joe Name the wide receivers That's been named Super Bowl MVP Jerry Rice Um Damn, what's my dog name?
Starting point is 00:56:21 What's my dog name? I don't know Wait, stay with me I'm trying to remember names. Ward number 84 with the Patriots. Young Bull, Young Bull. Deion Branch. Actually, he was number 83, but okay.
Starting point is 00:56:34 83, okay. 83, Deion Branch. Heinz Ward. Heinz Ward damn wait Santonio no Santonio no that's all I know right now
Starting point is 00:56:54 see it's easy to remember because the Steelers have three and the Patriots have two then it gets to where okay how far
Starting point is 00:57:02 can you go back exactly Lance Swan Heinz Ward you're going way back san antonio homes i said you heard me say san antonio right okay so i got foe okay i'm branch yeah julian edelman oh uh the uh game. The Rams game. The Rams. The Rams in Atlanta. Hey, he acted a donkey. Okay, that's what I meant. That's what I meant.
Starting point is 00:57:31 Okay, that's what I meant. Okay, you're right. You're right. You're right with Jerry. Yeah. What's the other one? You never got this one. Hold on, let me think now. Give me, just give me a year or that's too much. I think it was
Starting point is 00:57:47 70, I'm going to say 70? 77, I think. Come on, man. Are you 77? I'm man, 77. I was in elementary. How am I supposed to know that? Fred Belitnikoff. Hey, Fred
Starting point is 00:58:03 was nice with it too, bro. It was the other one. Last one. He was the last one. He was the most recent. You should get this one. The most recent? Yeah. Receiver? Yes. Oh, Cooper. Yeah, Cooper. Yeah, I told you. See, I told you.
Starting point is 00:58:20 But don't play with that. Hey, I know my hair is small, but I got something in there now. Okay, hold on. I got one more for you. We can't run like boy. I got that. Hey, I know my hair is small, but I got something in there, man. Okay, hold on. I got one more for you. We can't run like that. Last one. Kirk Cousins made news today.
Starting point is 00:58:34 He'll be on the Atlanta Falcon next season. Who is the Falcons' all-time leading rusher with 6,631 yards? Ooh, you ain't going to get this one? Ain't no way in hell you finna get this one. Oh. Why you looking to your left? Ain't no way in hell you finna get this one. Oh. Why you looking to your left? Don't look to your left. I mean, you probably got some type of Alexa gadget that can hear my question and answer
Starting point is 00:58:55 pop up. I'm just looking. I ain't got time. Look, I know all the running backs. I remember they had John Settle, they had William Andrews. I'm gonna go through with Riggs. You know what? I'm quitting the show, man. Hell no. Hey, boy, you cheating, boy.
Starting point is 00:59:13 Boy, you over there cheating, man. Go ahead. Hey, you got something over there. When I asked the question, the answer popped up on the little gadget, the little device you got. I know. As soon as I said it, you looked to your left, and then you put your head back up, and then you knew the answer. I got to think.
Starting point is 00:59:30 First of all, you wanted me to say Jamal Anderson. That's who you really wanted me to say. No, because I said the most rushing yards. Jamal Anderson done that. Even I know he wasn't there long enough to have the most rushing yards
Starting point is 00:59:45 in Falcons history. But you do realize I'm from Georgia, right? You know when you're in a local area, those games are always going to come on. See, like when you were in Miami, you always saw Miami. No matter who, Miami good, bad, or indifferent, you saw the Dolphins.
Starting point is 01:00:02 Yeah, yeah. That's how it was. That's how it was. We saw Atlanta, sorry to tell you. I ain't buying that, man. Listen, I ain't buying that. Hell, hell no. Listen, some of them answers, and I know the chat, the chat, I know y'all watching the chat,
Starting point is 01:00:19 y'all could agree with me, like something ain't right now. Something ain't right about this. I know what's going on. It's one thing to be knowledgeable of the game, but knowing some of this stuff back from the 70s and some of these just random questions that I ain't heard, like two of these I ain't never heard before, but you knew the answer right off real. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:36 Nah, I could. Nah, I could. Chat, what y'all think, chat? Chat, something ain't right. Something ain't right. Damn damn that was a good one that was a good one you got one little question
Starting point is 01:00:51 you got last question Ocho you got one more nah that was it that was it okay check this out Ocho oh wait wait wait wait oh yeah yeah there's one more
Starting point is 01:01:00 there's one more true or false has a tight end wait true or false has a tight end wait true or false a tight end has never won Super Bowl MVP
Starting point is 01:01:10 is that true or false no he never won you sure I'm 100% think think wait wait wait a minute remember the ice bowl
Starting point is 01:01:22 I don't care you sure so is that are you is that your final answer Wait a minute. Remember the ice bowl? I don't care. You sure? Mm-hmm. So is that your final answer? Final answer. True. False. A tight end has never won the Super Bowl MVP.
Starting point is 01:01:37 True. You mean true? A tight end has never been Super Bowl MVP. However you want to frame it. Right. True. He never won. Okay, okay, okay.
Starting point is 01:01:48 You're right. You're right. You're right. Yeah, okay. Like, listen. Man, something ain't right over there, man. I don't know. I don't know what it is, man.
Starting point is 01:01:57 Something ain't right. Somebody helping you cheat, something going on. It's something. Let me sit up in my chair a little bit. But the Super Bowl has had a losing player win the MVP. Who cut a fool like that and they still gave it to him? Chuck Howley.
Starting point is 01:02:12 The Cowboys lost on the last second field goal to the Colts. Right. But Chuck Howley wasn't. He was balling, huh? Man, look at that. That was like mid-seventh, early seventh, like 74. I think. I don't remember nothing about no football back then. Hey, that's when them boys were wearing Stacey Adams
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