Club Shay Shay - Nightcap - Hour 1: Lakers beat Nuggets, Vikings are making McCarthy QB1, & Cam

Episode Date: March 20, 2025

Heyward recruiting pitch to Aaron RodgersShannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson react to the Lakers beating the Jokic-less Nuggets, Vikings making McCarthy their starter, and some interesting comments coming out of Pittsburgh! We also look at Prime’s insane backyard & much more!08:10 - Lakers vs. Nuggets15:30 - Vikings moving forward with JJ McCarthy28:15 - Cam Heyward37:25 - Najee Harris46:13 - Bengals press conference56:35 - Lions propose new seeding59:30 - Colorado adds Byron Leftwich to coaching staff1:04:30 - Jalen Milroe run 4.37 at Pro Day1:08:00 - Q&Ayyyyy(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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The link is pinned at the top of the chat. Supplies are very limited and once they're gone, they're gone. So please get yours while supplies last. Lakers beat the Nuggets, 1-21-08, win their first straight game during the five game home stand. Yoke, Jamal Murray was out, LeBron Rui was out, Luca 31 points, nine rebounds, seven assists.

Luca is his 230 point game. He had a 20 point quarter and a 20 point half. So he had it going early. Austin Reeves had it going early. Oh, I mean for them like the first quarter, they could not miss a three. They had 45 points in the first quarter. Stepped off the gas a little bit in the second quarter.

Let them get back into the ball game. Stepped on the gas again on the in the second quarter. Let him get back into the ball game. Stepped on the gas again on the third quarter. Blew the game open. I think the Nuggets scored 31, 32 points in the fourth quarter, but it wasn't nearly enough. Yoke, excuse me, Luca 31 points, nine rebounds, seven assists, his 230 point game. Austin Reeves had 22.8 assists.

But I thought the Lakers played really well. They set the tempo early. 30 point game, Austin Reeves had 22.8 assists. But I thought the Lakers played really well. They set the tempo early. They didn't play down to the level of competition. No it, two of their best players without it. Sometimes you get that, Ocho. The Warriors made that mistake the other night. They looked at it like, oh Murray not playing. Oh, Yoke not playing.

And the next thing you know, you find yourself with an L hung on you. But watching the game, Ocho, what you thought about the Lakers and how they looked tonight? I mean it was impressive. It was very impressive. Not only did Luca come out and set the tone in the first quarter with 22 in the first quarter, actually he said, Luca set the tone for the game. What he did in the first quarter coming out with 21 points in the first half in the first quarter and everybody played well.

Most of the time, what happens is, when you play a team that doesn't have a player like Murray playing and the other, Joke, how you say, what's his name? Joker? Okay, Jokic. I don't know why I keep calling him Joker. Jokic playing, you play down to your competition.

Most of the time you end up losing, similar to how the Warriors did the other night. But obviously the Lakers didn't do that. They did slow down at some point, but it wasn't enough for the Nuggets to get back in the game and they eventually ended up winning the game. So, I mean, it was a good game. Obviously the superstars are out.

You would have liked to have seen Jokic playing, Ann Marie, LeBron healthy, Luka playing just to see a team in full strength to see what the game would have been like. Yeah, I thought the Lakers, I thought JJ had a good game plan, but when the shots were playing down the game plan, I thought they moved the ball early. I think sometimes the Lakers get careless. Their time, look, you just have to accept right Luca is gonna try some things I mean he's going out of bounds. He tried to throw a pass behind his back

Turnover and that allowed that's what allowed the the nuggets to get make this run They started turning the ball over to second quarter Going out of what you're going out of bounds and try to throw the ball behind his back to a guy right there put the Basket up like Lord have mercy Luca. But that's Luca. You have to accept the good with the bad. Right. Because listen. That's his game. That's how he plays and you have to be willing

to roll with it. You gotta think about it. When it come to him, now you do some things you don't like. You gotta accept the good with the bad, but there's more good than bad when it come to him when he's playing. Yeah, for sure. AR, man, AR's been great. I like this game, but you could tell,

and you look at him from the time he got there to the way he is now, he's immensely better. You could tell he's a student of the game. You could tell he put time in on his game. You can tell that it's important to him. And that's what I like to see. Regardless of the sport you play, it needs to mean something

to you. You gotta want to get better. You can't rest on your laurels. Yeah, he got a three-year contract probably paying like 13, 14 million dollars. He said, nah, I want one of them big daddies. I want one of them two-hundies. And he gonna get it and he would have earned it. He would have earned it. And you see why the Lakers were so unwilling to part ways with him Everybody and every trade always tried to include him in the lot of trades broke down Because the Lakers were unwilling to part ways with him. They saw the improvement They saw the a match the maturation getting better from the three getting better at finishing at the rim Gotten the Niles handles. He's putting ball on the floor, got the nice snatch pull.

He's really, he's turned himself into an all-star caliber player. And I understand that there are a lot of great guards and you know, you gotta get back Steph, and you got Ja, and you got Shay Gildjieff, and you got Harden, you got some Kyrie, you got some really good guards in the Western Conference. But man, the way he's playing, he's an all-star caliber player.

And he can handle the ball. LeBron has trusted him for a very, very long time. If you go back and look at that Memphis Grizzlies series, he actually won them a game. LeBron's like, nope, don't give the ball to me, you take it. Go win the game for us. And he's done that. So I just love the way he's improved, how he's gotten better in this Laker team. I think if they get healthy, I think they can be dangerous.

I still think they're a big short, but hey, we'll see what happens when the rubber needed to meet the road. Yeah, well, listen, you know the game of basketball very well, so does everybody else. Everyone else with the knowledge of the game of basketball has said the same thing to meet the road. Yeah. Wait, listen, you know, the game of basketball very well. So does everybody else. Everyone else with the knowledge of the game of basketball has said the same thing about the Lakers. They don't have a big in order to compete, in order to go as far

as you need to go, you're going to have to have a big. And they just don't have it. But we can see what they can do. We don't see what they can do with that two-headed muscle. Once LeBron comes back, we'll see what happens. Well, because they're going to be small. Once Jackson Hayes goes out of line up. That's small. Yeah, I mean Coloco He's okay, yeah Little small

Height, okay heights fine, but he just don't have enough bricks in his back pocket And so they you know people can just uproot him and just move him off the spot. On the spot, yeah. Yeah. But, you know, I mean, and there are going to be some times that probably LeBron is going to have to slide to the five. Oh! And, you know, I mean, because really, if you really think about it, there's not a whole

lot of guys that have, you know, Rudy Gobert is not going to cause you any damage. Right. Basically, you know, they got hardened stain. They got Chad Hongan but when you look at a Memphis Zach Eady, he's just a big body. He just sit screams and stuff like that. Yeah, take enough space. Yeah, yeah So you look at the teams now some goon some goon now, you can be a problem for the Rockets. Yes Yeah, he's an all-star. He's an all-star for a reason. But like I said, I like the Lakers.

LeBron gets healthy. Luca is Luca come playoff time. He has the third high scoring. No, he has the second high scoring average in playoff history. With that being said, LeBron healthy. LeBron is a top five in playoff history as far as scoring. They can do some damage, but I just wish they had another big, I don't know why they signed Alex Lin.

Hey, Uncle, you ain't been too high on Brother Lin. What's wrong with Brother Lin? He's probably about 35 days away from being the tallest coach in history. That's his next profession. It ain't gonna be in the NBA. It's going to be coaching basketball somewhere, maybe high school. Oh Joe, the Vikings are set to roll with JJ McCarthy.

Thank you. Not pursue Aaron Rodgers. Thank you. The Vikings have rejected multiple trade calls for JJ McCarthy, telling other teams they're moving forward with him as their quarterback. The team plans to add McCarthy telling other teams they're moving forward with him as their quarterback. The team plans to add a veteran, but they're not pursuing Aaron Rodgers at this time. McCarthy now enters the offseason as QB1.

That's a good thing. That's a good thing. And listen, I don't like the way Aaron Rodgers is using the leverage, using his past, his accolades, his resume, and what he's done in the, the whole team steadily at hostage. Now some of the reports might- They hold him hostage. Move on. They're allowing him. Just like Green Bay allowed him to do all the things that he did, the Jets allowed it. Green Bay allowed it. The Jets allowed it. Just move on. That's exactly what they should do. Now this is what I like about Minnesota.

The reports came out about Minnesota obviously being in the hunt for trading for him and what they did right away. It ain't even been two days. Oh we gonna nix that real quick. We don't have time to play them games with you. So obviously you haven't learned your lesson with the last two places you've been to. Because now here you go tell the other teams you're not sure on what you want to do yet. Having them wait, using the leverage that you do have, the little bit of leverage you still have, to play games. I'm glad that Minnesota Vikings came out and said what they said.

They're going forward with JJ McCarthy because you drafted him for a reason, and you understand what he can do, especially with the supporting cast he has around him, because you saw what Sam Darnan was able to do. He wasn't able to do it with the Jets, he wasn't able to do it with the Panthers, but all of a sudden he comes to Minnesota

and he has a career year and now it's time for J.J. McCarthy to step up and do the same damn thing and that's what he's probably going to do because what he has around him is very very special. Yeah well you got to find out what if the guy can play or not Ocho. I mean you keep kicking the can down the road. Yeah but listen even, even if he couldn't play, we didn't think Sam Donnelly would play either when he was with the Jets. We didn't think he could play when he was with the Panthers, but all of a sudden, magically, he turned into the goddamn Houdini over there in Minnesota. But we saw what he looked like the last two games of the season. Because see, there's this thing called expectation. You

tell me, because think about what you just said. You didn't think Sam Darnold was going to do that. Nobody thought Sam Darnold was going to do that until expectations came along. And then expectations came along. Oh, we got to get the number one seed. And then what happened? Oh, we're in the playoffs. Then what happened? He turned back into Sam Darnold. You see, expectations is the number one killer of goals and dreams. Because the moment someone expects something up, see that's the only way you can hurt me, Ocho. If I don't expect anything, if I'm in a relationship

and I'm just casually, I don't expect nothing. Hey, you do you, I'm gonna do me. It's the moment we have expectations in each other that it bothers me, that it hurts me if you do something that I don't agree with. See what I mean? So the Vikings started to have expectations. We started to have expectations for Sam Darnold. And you see what happened? Now, you was preaching a little too fast. Now, I'm not sure the people in the chat didn't catch that, but that was a moment. That was a moment

a lot of people might have missed because we're talking about football, but that's something that could apply to life that I think a lot of people missed, but I didn't miss it because as soon as I heard it, you know I keep that thing on me. Yeah, you keep it all you? Expectation, now bring that to me again, I gotta write it down.

Now when it get to the end of the year, what I'm gonna do is I'm gonna take all these quotes that I wrote down and I'm gonna make a nightcap booklet called On Quotes so that people can apply it to life. I wrote down and I'm gonna make a nightcap booklet called on quotes So they people get applied to life Expectations just need to move down. Yeah, it's the number one. It's the number one killer of dreams uh-huh and goals Because here's the thing. Oh Joe Sam Darnold nobody because they like man. He was terrible with the Jets

Yeah, well he was terrible with Carolina. Well, we didn't get an opportunity to see him really at San Fran. So everybody was expecting, remember the last two stops that they saw him, that he wasn't that good. Right. OK, so now he doesn't have any expectations. The more you win, the more expectations come along with that. So now. The last couple of games of the season, oh, Joe, we got an opportunity to get to number one seed.

Right. Boom. Oh, we're the playoffs now, don't matter, blah, blah, blah. Boom. Yeah. And you know that, hey, that playoff atmosphere is different now. That's a whole different ballgame

than playing in the regular season. Regular season, he looked phenomenal. It's a different type of pressure, again, the one word expectation that comes with being the quarterback. Especially in that type of situation. So, I kind of understand and the team you are playing or had to play. Yeah. But that's what happens when you have expectations on your, like I said, and I like to equate things to relationships because most of the people, especially not Chad, has been a relationship. Can't relate to it.

Yeah. Yeah. It's the moment you have expectations. You see what a couple's in a relationship, in marriage, there's an expectation. You're going to be faithful. I'm going to be faithful. I'm going to protect you. You're going be faithful, I'm gonna be faithful. I'm gonna protect you, you're gonna protect me. Come on, man. I'm gonna honor the vows that we stood before God and we swore to each other.

Now, I have that expectation. But hey, if you say, hey, what you doing tonight? Uh, I ain't gonna be able to see you tonight. And everybody there's like, there's no I ain't gonna be able to see you tonight. And everybody there's like, there's no expectations. I have no obligation. You have no obligation to me. I see you when I see you.

Holla when I holla. And you know what I don't like about the analogy and the explanation that you're giving me right now is the marriage one normally doesn't work. But the one with no expectations, hell, you be friends, you be sneaky links or whatever you wanna call it for years and years and years and years all the way down the line

because there are no expectations. So there's no failure or reason for anything to happen. All but here's the sneaky part though to where to get you. You see, the number one cause that will cause a relationship to end is uncommunicated expectations. You see, Ocho, she expected you to get her flowers and you didn't get them. Why didn't you tell me you wanted flowers?

You expected her, she expected you, Ocho, to plan this vacation. Right. You didn't know she wanted to go on a vacation? Uncommunicated expectations. I like that. Ocho thought that you know what? Hey, she's going to do this thing for Father's Day. We're going to do it up, blah, blah, blah.

She didn't do it. You see, uncommunicated expectations. But again, uncommunicated. But what's the end part? Expectations. I like that. I haven't heard that. I haven't even heard that word before.

Not used in this context and actually used together. Uncommunicated expectations. I like that. That's new for me. You see, she has an expectation, but she didn't communicate them with you. You have an expectation, but you didn't communicate them with her. So those uncommunicated expectations and what happens, a lot of times people have what we call implosive

Personalities they hold things hold things hold things. There's only so much you can hold before it explodes The term oh you went postal. Yeah Boom and so now instead of just saying well know, Chad, I thought that we were going to do this. Right. No, one month go by, two months go by, three months go by, four months go by, and it's building. Wait, months? You don't know. It's not been communicated. So you don't know. It's building. It's building. It's building. Boom. Then it blows. Yeah. You been with me all this time, you should have known.

How many times you heard that on show? All the time. You know what I like. Yeah, all the time, all the time, because you've been with him a certain amount, you've been with someone for a certain amount of time, and you know women all the time. Oh, I know you real well.

I know you real well. I knew what she gonna say. You can say something, Monk. Yeah. She can finish the sentence for you. But all of a sudden, when it come to certain stuff, oh, you didn't wanna let me know. I ain't know you wanted that.

I ain't know you wanted, oh. You can't read my mind. I threw you hints. I gave you a sign a few weeks ago. A sign? Yeah. What? Yeah. Yeah. In the commercial.

I mentioned it when it came on TV. Yeah. I missed a sign that God gave me too. Just say what you want. You should have told us, you should have said I missed a sign that God gave me. I should have left your ass alone about six months ago. I missed that sign.

But yeah, and that's the thing. I just think, you know, sometimes we take for granted and you've been in a relationship, just tell me. Yeah. I'm one of these guys, Ocho. Just tell me. Yeah. If you want to do something, tell me.

I don't have time. I got too much ish on my plate to try to figure out what you want. You can just open your mouth and say, if you want to go here, say that. If you want to eat that and say, if you wanna go here, say that. If you wanna eat that, say that. If you want this, say that. But the guy, me,

you know what to talk about on them shows. Uh oh. What the heck? What they gotta do with this? What they gotta do with you telling me what you would like to do. And so I think the thing is for the Vikings, they have an expectation now. They see their offense.

They realize that, hey, Jeddah is going to be Jeddah. Hawkinson's been a pro bowl player. Addison, hey, the more opportunities we give him, the better he can be. Offensive line, maybe they can add a piece to the offensive line. But other than that, yeah, I Think you you owe it. I mean you dropped the kid when you drafted it and Now you you keep kicking the can down the road And he's like, hold on what I got to do you took me you told me I was the guy and now I get hurt Okay, I get that I understand that I got hurt. There's nothing I can do you took me you told me I was the guy and now I get hurt. Okay, I get that I understand that

I got hurt. There's nothing I can do about that old Joe. But then I come back and Y'all got another guy you tell me gotta I gotta wait another year. Yeah. Yeah Yeah, that was that was bother that would bother anybody especially a quarterback that got Where you got drafted expected to start but due to injury He had a small setback and now you've done all the work you need to do during the season last year to get yourself back, not only in playing shape physically and mentally, but now you talk about bringing somebody else in,

another veteran president, and telling me I gotta take a backseat again? Wait a minute, wait a minute! What are we talking about here? So I'm happy for him. I'm glad that the organization decided to hurry up and nix the rumors that were out there about Aaron Rodgers coming in

and let JJ McCarthy give him that sense of security mentally so he can go forward and know he's quarterback one and doesn't have to look over his shoulder. I agree. ["Sexy Rapper"] Well, this is what Cam Hayward, the great defensive tackle for the Pittsburgh Steelers, was asked if he'll be doing any recruiting to help bring Rogers to Pittsburgh. I ain't doing none of that darkness retreat. I don't need any of that crap.

Either you want to be a Pittsburgh Steeler or you don't. That's simple. That's the pitch. If you want me to recruit, that's recruiting a Pittsburgh Steelers or you don't, that's simple, that's the pitch. If you want me to recruit, that's recruiting pitch Pittsburgh Steelers. If you want to be a part of it, so be it. If you don't, no skin off my back. Hey, there are certain teams,

you look at the logo on the helmet, they don't need no help. They don't need no recruiting pitch. The product sells itself. Again, I always use that. I always use that example of Blue Magic in the movie American Gangster with Denzel Washington. The product sells itself. The Steelers historic franchise, them stars on the side of the helmet, it sells itself. The other franchise, things are bigger in Texas, the product sells itself. You don't need to do anything for it. You don't have to recruit

nobody. You have to sell nobody nothing because it sells itself. That wouldn't be a recruitment, Ocho. That would be begging. And that's what he wants. Thank you. I like that. Because what did the Jets do? The Jets got on a private plane and flew to him. Yes, sir. I mean, Ocho, I don't know if you saw this, but I had Young Miami on the podcast. Hey, um, hey um, but I saw you shooting, boy.

Hey listen, let me tell you something, boy you were shooting 70% from the field that night, boy. 80-70%, 80-70%. Don't do that, I see you blushing, baby. Nah, nah, nah, nah, I wasn't shooting. Hey, nah. Yeah, you were shooting. I'm, nah, nah, nah, I wasn't shooting. Nah. Yeah, you shoot. I'm just having great conversation. Yeah, yeah, you know when you conversation,

that's called shooting, depending on what you say. It ain't what you say, it's how you say it. It's all about your delivery, baby. You was on point. But let them tell it, I was shooting that cash doll. I was shooting that Amber Rose. I was shooting that Young Miami. No, no, no, no, no. I was shooting that Kiki. I was shooting that Leila Dab. I was shooting that Amber Rose. I was shooting that Young Miami. No, no, no, no, no. I was shooting that Kiki.

I was shooting, I was like, what the hell? I was shooting that Megan Gabb. I was like, what the hell? Can I have a conversation? Well, this was a little different now. You didn't shoot that cast all. You didn't shoot it nobody else. Now, it's this, the conversation and the energy

and the aura and the chemistry in which you can't see. You can't see it because you actually in the room. See, I'm not in the room with you. Huh? Yeah. I can see, I can see the heat coming off the couch. It better be. You hear me? I can see the connection in the room. See, I'm not in the room with you. I can see the heat coming off the couch. You hear me? I can see the connection in the chemistry. Now I'm talking about the type of chemistry

when you play Twister, that kind of chemistry, where they say red and you got the crossover. You hear me? I seen it. Now you can't see it. So it's my dude, Jim. I'm in the room. Listen, I know you're in the room.

That's why you can't see it. That's why I'm trying to tell you what I saw Your wife I was on point. I'm talking about every every bar was there it was there. It was a connection There was chemistry you can't see it. So I you do it that what you will and what you may do another way I'm not doing anything. Well, we're happy. I'm 1000 For me right, okay Um, um, um, I, I, for me, I couldn't in good conscience. It's almost, it would be almost like I'm a therapist and some lady comes and talk about a problem

and then I end up sleeping with her. Or if I'm a, I'm a lawyer and I have a client and I know she's, she's, uh, uh, she's vulnerable. Right, right. Nah, bro, I'm just having a conversation. I mean, I love the fact. Let me see. Go ahead. Let me see.

You know, it's the problem. It's the problem with this is what happens when it comes to us. When it comes to us, our people, we overthink things. We overthink things and we try to analyze them and we put things in our head with a scenario like you just did. Now you just said a scenario, you gave a narrative that fit the way you thought this individual is based on the situation that you created. Now see, God always has a plan for us and he puts people in our life in certain situations and you're missing your blessing. That could be.

Now Young Miami chose to come do club shay-shay and sat down with you. Yes, yes, yes. I'm grateful for every guest. Yeah, now listen, that could have been a sign from God. You never know. Now what I saw when I watched the interview, I say, but this is more than just a talk. This is more than just a conversation. Now I can see the energy, I can see the aura,

I can see the chemistry on camera. Now you can't see it, and I'm telling you again. Now listen to me when I talk to you, because I wouldn't tell you, and I wouldn't steal you wrong because this wheel the wheel over here Jesus got this one okay I'm telling you I'm not telling you to make no moves I'm just telling you I can see it and I'm not right I know I know you know we got people watching you really want to say no no people watching you heard what she want to say no, no, because. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, people watching and just like, you heard what she said.

Man, guys show, Ocho, guys showing up with Crock-Burkins. Yeah. Were you just. On the first day? Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, hold on, now you just talked about, I want somebody. You talked about Wage just the other night, now. You talked about Burkins and G-Wagon.

Now this is right up your alley. It's about what you were talking about. Ocho, Ocho, that's a buildup. She said Berkins now is a starter pack. Right. I'm thinking LB, I'm thinking Gucci, YSL, I'm thinking Dior. Right.

She say Berkins, croc Berkins. Right. That's a starter pack. Right. Guys buying Jeep, man, man, come on, man. Y''s a starter pack. God buying Jeep. Man, come on, man. Y'all know about it. First of all, you say you want him young, huh? Didn't I tell you? Didn't I tell you you got to evolve?

This is what you got to deal with when you want him young. Not only that, there's certain other areas, honk. You're going to have to update your resume. Well, I'm going to have to go. Let me tell you what I'm going to have to do. I'm going to have to start going to church and get me somebody with a hat sitting in the deacon's corner. You got me feeling bad. I ain't got the brand. I can't, hey, uh-uh. I ain't it me. I tell you what, I tell you what, I tell you what. Now, if you do me a solid and you do me a favor, young Miami, you know, that's my sister now, sister now. She from Miami, she from Dade County now.

I know what she talking about. Okay, I'm just making sure you know, that's why I'm vouching for Sister where I am. No, man, I look. I know you're trying to keep it professional. No, but I like the fact that they come in and they open up and we have a conversation and we just be talking.

I mean, look, I had a great conversation because like I said, I had no, I didn't ever think I would even meet any of these people. So for me, I'm like, man, I can't believe you sitting across from me. That's how I look at them. I don't like, okay, let me try to throw a question here and try to get slick with it.

I ain't trying to do that, man. You've got to do that. You got to say the things you're saying right now. I'm saying the things I'm saying that you can say that you might be thinking. See, that's what me being your other half is supposed to do. I'm supposed to be able to see things that you can see and then relate what I see that you should do, but you don't want to do it because you keep, but you keep an assertive level of professionalism. Now you know when the blessing that's in your face.

At all times. Let me tell you what I'm gonna do. Now you talk about, you understand the prerequisites when it comes to dealing with her. Now, if you want to lead up with one of them Carl Bergens, I've seen your 5200, the speed of the process. No, send me that, cause that's what you owe me. Not cause that's gonna be a dialed payment on the damn bag.

Send me that, cause that's what the hell you owe me. Check, y'all hear this bag? This bag's talking about, oh, if you gonna get a Cronk Berkin, I'll see your 5,200 on it. How you gonna send me money? How you gonna talk about you gonna send me something on it? What you owe me that? Hey, hey, hold up. Let me give you a prime example before we move on to the next topic. me money how you gonna talk about you gonna send me something on it? What you want me to do?

Hey, hold on. Let me give you a prime example before we move on to the next topic. Before we move on to the next topic, I understand the professionalism and what you carry yourself, the structure and discipline and everything that you do. That's what I love about you. That's why we work so well because I'm the complete opposite. So, I'm gonna give you a small example. Okay. There was a movie that came out not too long ago when ah what's the lady's name Jennifer Anderson Jennifer Anderson was dating Brad Pitt they were a couple they were together and all of a sudden Brad Pitt went off to do a movie with Angelina Jolie. Angelina Jolie, Mr. and Mrs. Smith, yes.

Okay, okay. You see where I'm going with this? So listen, it don't matter what you got going on in life. Sometimes God puts you in situations, in this case, happen to be club shakes, you're able to sit down with Brother Shannon Sharp and Carisha, and the situation, to me, it was it was to me from the outside looking in regardless of the professionalism that you're trying to instill and carry because you have to, I saw a situation like that.

Brad Pitt, Angelina Jolie, the chemistry it was just undeniable and that's what I could see from far where I was at. Now you do it that again, now you do it it that what you will and what you may I'm just speaking my piece and if I didn't tell you as your other half I Wouldn't be your friend, but that's okay. We can go we can go into the next topic Speaking of Pittsburgh, Nigel Harris says there is a lack of leadership with the Steelers We just didn't know anything on offense. Really we didn't have any identity. We had a young guy coming in at coming in at QB. I really didn't have nobody to almost learn from on the offensive side. You like that he's saying that old joke? I mean at the runner at the

runnerback position and saying that you don't have anybody to learn, you know, at that specific position. I don't really like that. I personally don't because there's so many resources once you're in that atmosphere that you can learn from where it doesn't have to actually be a person right there outside of your head coach teaching you because there's so much you can learn on your own. right there outside of your headcoats teaching you because there's so much you can learn on your own. They have film, they have volts, they have many googahs of footage and stuff you can learn. Right.

You know? Yeah. And to say something like that with the tutelage that you're getting at the organization you're at, how could you even say something like that? Look at all the backs that have come through there. Yeah, but they weren't there. The veteran leadership wasn't there when he got there.

That's the thing that I'm very appreciative of. I had a guy, even though he was a year older than me, Steve Atwater, on how to be professional. I had Dennis Smith, who had been there since 1981, who said, this is how you do things. This is how you be professional. You be punctual. You be on time.

You practice hard. I saw John. I saw all those guys those guys the veteran guys and how they do things Yeah, okay me now. Oh Joe. I got the younger guys coming in right? That's my job for burns foot Rod Smith right other guys TD Chalk I house now I go to Baltimore now the other younger guys some of the younger guys Now I go to Baltimore. Now the other younger guys, some of the younger guys, the Rays and things, Todd Heath, that's what you do. I think that's what he's talking about.

I think, I don't want to put words in his mouth, guys, but I think that's what he's talking about. Like how to be professional, how to make sure I practice doing everything that I possibly can to make sure that I'm maximizing my time here. And I'm very grateful that I'm maximizing my time here. And I'm very grateful that I got to Denver. I had guys, look, there are guys that wanted to party.

I know that's not why I was there. Maybe Ocho had I been a first or second round pick, maybe I wouldn't partake. Probably not because that's never been my MO. But knowing that I'm on thin ice, and I see Adward and I see Dennis Smith, and I see those other guys, John, and I see the way they do it, they'll say,

you know what, yeah, I need to be in that group. Listen, I understand it, and I truly don't understand where he's coming from in a sense, because obviously, you understand what it took you to get here, right? This NFL, Najay, you've been dreaming about this since you were a little shorty, since you were a little kid. This was a dream of mine. You have finally reached that pinnacle of reaching what you've always dreamed of. Then you, not only that, you're part of historic franchise, the Pittsburgh Steelers. I'm not getting somewhere and worried about veteran

leadership when I understand the work it took me to get here. I'm already aligned with the end goal. All my goals reset themselves once I make it. I'm not worried about no veteran leadership. I know what I need to do based on the goals that I set for myself personally. It don't matter who's in the room. It don't matter who was there before me. Yeah. That shit I need to get done and I got the focus and everything I do has to align with my end goal regardless of whether I have a veteran presence or not. At my specific position I want to be one of the best to play this game ever. You talk about no veteran leadership, look at the players that came before you that play the exact position, I want to be one of the best to play this game, ever.

You talk about no better than leadership. Look at the players that came before you that played the exact position, the Jerome Bettes, the Willie Parkers. I mean, I'm sure you're gonna, the James Constance. Yeah, but I need them there to, Ocho. Yeah, you don't need them there. So you're talking about a pro. You don't need them.

A pro is the occupation in which you do it. Right. That's a professional. A pro is how you go about that. You see the difference between college and pros. What do they do? They get your ass up, they make sure you go to study hall, they make sure you do X, Y, and Z, they make sure you in the weight room. Who does that when you go to the NFL? You. And it helps when you see somebody that's a pro, because once you get there, we're all professionals,

but to be a pro, it's something to be said for me, not just me, to each his own. But there's something to be said for me to have veteran. I remember Mark Jackson would take me up on his wing and say, hey, I see you ran that route, but I'm not so sure how to run it like that because blah, blah, blah. XYZ, I said, okay, I appreciate that, man. He pulled me to the side. Hey, hey, threaten that guy a little bit more. Hey, you got your head around a little too far.

So it's little stuff like that, Ocho. I mean, stuff that you can't see. Because you used to get, hey, Ocho, we used to use God-given ability getting open. It take more than that in the NFL. Yeah. Because all them jokers got God-given. Hey, God touched all them. Yeah, I got you.

I understand it. And I wish I could talk to Najee to get better context and get a little bit more in depth on what he means by it. And maybe I'm thinking a little different because of my approach. I wouldn't work by no better leadership. I understood, okay, I finally got here. I know what my goals are.

And to make sure everything I do are going to align with the angle to make sure I become At some point one of the best they ever played not just for the Bengals but to play in the history of this game in general I'm gonna leave my effort whether people like me or not then I think about also hell Oh for the people in the chat, huh? No better leadership Where did I stay the first two years in the NFL? Where I lived at? Yeah, and? I'm locked in.

I don't care who's there. I know what I got to do. I know what it takes to make sure I'm able to be consistent. This sounds a rookie. Yeah. You know what? I might not have better impressions, but I'm gonna do the things I think I need to do

to make sure I give them the best of me. Giving you the best of me. You know, it's a part of me. I think, I think Nigee doesn't feel like the Steelers really appreciated him. Yeah. Because a guy that's just barely rushing for a thousand yards is not going to get the appreciation like a Saquon. Right a Derrick Henry, like these guys rushing for 1,400, 1,500 yards. He's never had less than a thousand yards rushing though, Joe.

But he's not spectacular. You don't look at him like, oh my God. You don't think that when he gets the ball, see at least like Saquon gets the ball, you think, man, he might hit his head on the goalpost. Or Derrick Henry gonna end the game with 150, maybe 200 yards. That's not what you get from him. I thought he was a good back.

Yeah, he was nice. I don't think he changes lives. No. He's not a guy that's gonna change your life, for me. Now in college, he was sensational. Yeah, he a bell cow. Three down back, I like he a bell cow three at three down back. I like Oh Joe Jamar was not Jamar Chase signed his deal. Yeah, he Higgins signed his deal They had their press conference. We read my was not happy with the reporter calling T

Receiver number two. Let's take a listen to what he had to say. We're gonna leave you with a problem with the wide receiver one. When you see it put out there that you're the highest paid wide receiver two. How does that, one eight. You're saying it's put out there fixing it, one eight. Yes sir.

Um, you know bro, I don't even look at it like that. You know what I mean? I kind of wish they wouldn't have put it out there like that. So, cause now it's, that's why everybody's in the highest pay too. Let's just say I'm at a place where they value me and they respect me and I'm a good player. So let's just say that that's not the highest receiver too or anything like that. I mean, so let's just say he's another great receiver.

Bingo's receiver that puts in the work and got his head down and just grinds. So. I mean, I've been saying it for a very long time. I've been saying it for a very, very long time. Every time I talk about the bangles duo, I say it all the time. And I've been saying it for a very long time. You and I even went back and forth about it, you know, continuously on here. I said he's a wide receiver one that just happens to be on the team with another number one. There are a few instances, a few

other teams that also benefit from this situation. I'm not sure what the reporter is doing. And the reporter who understands the game of football and has been able to watch he and Chase together should know that no better, that he's a one. If he was to leave there, he would have been paid as a number one because that's exactly what he is. It just so happens he have Tamar Chase

on the other side of him. But anyway. Well, we look at we look at We let me ask you a question. Yeah, we're pastor Tain lined up who pastor Tain going to he going to chase or he going to? T Higgins If he's following he's going to chase Okay, Sal's Gardner Stingley If he's following he going he's going to chase so why would they?

I understand what you're saying, right? Because that's the thing now, Ocho. Hell, it used to be no QB one. It was the starter quarterback. It was no QB. It was no wide receiver one. It was wide receiver. It was Michael Irving, Sterling Charm, Jared Wright, Randy, blah, blah, blah, Kehoe.

Now they got all these big wide receiver wide receiver. Hold on, hold on, hold on. Ain't no all now. There are only a few teams like that. The Eagles, that's wide receiver 1A and 1B. The Bengals, that's wide receiver 1A and 1B. What they did over there with Cooper Cup and Pugla Nakua, that was wide receiver 1A and 1B.

Now what they will do is they will take some of your production, the opportunities away from you and make it look like it's something wrong with you and make it look like Y receiver 2 when there's really nothing wrong with you if you understand the business and how they work your ass up out of there. But I mean this is why I look at it Ocho. Talk to me. Why didn't they give, if Jalen Waldo was the equivalent of Tyreek, why didn't they give him the same type of money that he gave tyree? If davante smith was the same was the equivalent receiver. So why did they give t higgins 40 million? Wait, um, you know, you know, you can't you can't work like that now come on. Don't do that He why receive one why receive one get why receive one money?

Right. Yeah, listen we we can we can we can argue we can Listen, we can argue to it. But listen, normally, normally when we talk about wire receiver one and we talk about wire receiver two, there is an enormous drop-off in skill and talent. Enormous. Now you got two receivers that get it done in two totally different ways. Are you saying there's no drop-off? Hold on. I want to make sure I'm... Yeah, there's a drop off. I said enormous. No, no, no. Extravagant.

Extravagant drop off from your one and your two. There's a reason the person is a one and there's a reason the other person is a two. Now you got two receivers. Let me finish. You got two receivers that are really, really good at what they do. High points, short, intermediate, long balls. Now both of them do all of them really well. I think that one of the few things that Chase might have on run after the catch. Yeah, is that goddamn run after the catch.

My God. That's also because Chase, his background, his background in playing running back when he was younger. That's why he looked like that. Every time he get the ball, he like a damn running back. He bouncing on people, playing ping pong. I mean, listen, you touch me, I'm going down. You touch me, I'm going down. I'm making a business decision. So I mean, I get what you're saying. I'm glad he got paid. I think he earned it right. I mean the way he played he had been exemplary Yeah, the whole while there. Uh-huh. They made him play under the tag. He played under the tag He caught Nate, but he still had double-digit touchdown. He was gonna be well over a thousand yards And so they compensated him. Yeah, I love I love when teams reward their players for work put in now

Ocho I've already paid you for what you've done. Right, right. Now for me to give you this money, they're not paying Chase for the Triple Crown because they paid him that. They're paying him for moving forward. We believe you're going to put up numbers equivalent to that, if not better. I can't pay, I can't, how do I, I paid you. It wasn't like he didn't get a salary Oh Joe and now we got to make up for what we didn't give him he got paid right with that being said I believe chase they believe chase is gonna put up numbers

Equivalent to if not better than what he put up last year, so I'm going to pay you accordingly. Yeah. Yeah and uh I'm going to pay you accordingly. Yeah, yeah. And uh... That was a good one. And he's earned it. Yeah, absolutely. Gee, he's earned it. I'm glad he didn't have to go. I'm glad he didn't have to go to get some, because so many times we see guys put,

oh, put the work in, put the work in, and then they gotta go somewhere else to get rewarded. To get the appreciation that I shoulda got from the club that drafted me. You thought enough of drafting me. You know, that's what I tell people a lot of times. What I love about Dan Reeves, he was smart enough to draft me, but somehow forgot to cut me.

The Bengals, oh, you really loved him. You did your homework. You took him in the second round. But now he give you all those great years and you gonna let him move on. And you gonna let his, cause he ain't in his prime yet. So now the next four years is really gonna be his prime

and you gonna let somebody else reap that benefit cause you keep. So I was glad they finally. You know what the funny thing, I think a lot of people haven't talked about, they really don't know, is the person that's pulling the strings behind closed doors, the person with the power, the person who runs the show and is making the calls is really nine.

Yeah, for sure. You know, a lot of people ain't talking about that. We talk about T going here no matter what I said, no matter what people on ESP and no matter what people have said on X or Twitter for that matter. The person behind the closed doors who went up the management and probably said, listen, I don't know what you need to do, what you need to do with the numbers on my contract or what you need to restructure. But uno and five, I need that back.

Come hell or high water. If you understand Joe Burrow and how he conducts his business and the way he goes about it, maybe that man Young Bull ain't playing, not by them two. You know what I love, Ocho? The fact that he was outspoken about it. A lot of quarterbacks like, yeah, we love to have him back, but that's not my call. Right.

He said, no, we need him back. Oh, no, no, oh, he's definitely your own. He's like, they've earned the right. He said, and he said the same thing about Trey Hendrickson. It seems like they're a little bit more open to trading Trey than potentially bringing him back. But that's something we'll discuss in a later date and time. But he came on first take and he was very,

hey, I want them to pay Chase. Chase has earned that. I want them to pay T. He's a valuable piece to what we do. And I want him back. None of that, hey, yeah, we'd love to have him back, but you know, I don't make that decision. I'm just a quarterback.

No, no. And so I love that part about him. Oh, Joe, a key fact in the Jamar Chase T. Higgins negotiation with Joe Burl's influence. Beyond the public comments, Burrows applied private pressure, making it clear deals must get done for both. If since it failed, it could have gotten very, very interesting.

Yeah, listen. Listen, I'm glad that we just brought that up and I just said it ahead of time. Obviously I wouldn't have said it when all this stuff was going on. But if you understand, I've watched Joe now for a few years. I've seen him up in person.

I've heard the stories about the way he conducts himself and goes on about his business and his approach to the game and how serious he takes it. In order to continue playing at an elite level, you have to have elite talent around you. And you understand that, especially offensively. In order to keep that going and continue to give us a chance offensively to get where we want to go. We already know what the end goal is every time you compete and you play on a Sunday and know to get

there especially San Francisco I need my I need my two I need my uno I need my five. I don't know we need to do I don't know what we need to do upstairs but we need to make it happen. That's it. I think sometimes that quarterbacks be like, I got my money the hell with the rest of this stuff. It ain't got nothing to do with me. And that's a cop out, though, Joe.

It's a cop out to say, well, I don't get to make that decision. Yeah, I've heard that before. And you hear that a lot. I mean, Joe making 55 million, like, y'all feel for yourself. But he knows a part of him getting that 55 million was one in five.

There it is. You said it right there. Now you come in there playing around and bring somebody else in that can't do a one in five. He understand. He understand. You're going to be upset. I mean, he's been throwing a chase for what? Five years?

Had him in college for a year? Missed him and then picked him right back up. Yep. So with that being said, I'm glad these guys got it done. Congratulations, guys. Well deserved. The Lions have proposed significant change to the NFL playoff seeding that would largely use regular season record as the guiding principle rather than division championships.

Under the proposal, the division winner with the conference best record will still receive the number one overall seed. But after that, teams would be stacked by their records regardless whether they won the division or received wild card births. That approach could significantly impact the NFC North, which fielded three playoff teams last season, the Lions 15-2, Vikings 14-3, Green Bay 11-6.

The Lions received the number one seed, but the Vikings were seeded number five and the Packers number seven. Based purely on the record, the Vikings would have been the number three seed, the Packers would have been the number five seed. Pocho, do you understand this is an anomaly season? It doesn't happen like this. We've never seen a team, two teams in the same division, have this kind of record. Yeah, and what are the chances of it happening again?

What do you think? It's not likely. It's not like maybe another decade, 20 years, 30 years. Yeah. Listen, one thing about it, it was great to see. It was entertaining. It was a very entertaining for that NFC. But a chance of it actually happening again where you need to have this format even be put in place, it's not likely, unless you're playing a video game. I hate the fact that we take an anomaly and then try to make wholesale changes. Because you're trying to make a wholesale change.

So what's the importance of winning your division? If there's no value, I can't help it that you in that division. If there is no value, Ocho, so I can't help it that you in that division. So if I win my division, now you gonna punish me because I won my division with 10 wins and you happen to have 13 wins in another division that somebody won 15 games. So why even have divisions? Let's just say, okay, y'all the NFC, y'all the ALC, just play, and then whoever has the

best record will stack it. You don't even need a division. Because now you're telling me the vision's not important. So we're going to base it on record. The best overall record, you get to buy. The next best record, you the 2C. Next best record, we don't need division. Stop trying to take isolated incident

and make wholesale changes. Bro, now you making the seed like, well, if we weren't the five seed, bro, you're playing bad. It's okay. That's just me, Ocho. Farmer Bucks offensive coordinator, Byron Leftwich, is joining Colorado's coaching staff. Coach Price introduced Leftwich to the team Wednesday. The retired quarterback brings yet more pro experience to the Boulder, Colorado.

The Buffs hired Hall of Fame running back, Mars Faulkman in February to coach the running backs. Hall of Fame defensive tackle is a senior quality control analyst for the defensive side of the football as well. He worked with the D line. I don't know what happened. I really don't know what happened in Tampa because he went from a guy that had an opportunity to get a head coaching job to being out of

the league. Yeah. Well. Out of the league. Listen, I'm not going to go there. Byron Lefvitch was a good quarterback during this time. What he was able to do in Tampa with Brady was phenomenal. Obviously being able to coach one of the greatest

of all time, if not the greatest. And he called plays. I thought they were one of the guys that called plays. Yeah, he was, yeah. But if you notice, every other quarter, every other officer coordinator that has ever coached Tom Brady, what has he got in the NFL, Ocho? A head coaching job. That is every coach Tom Brady. What has he got in the NFL? Oh Joe? uh head

coaching job Charlie Weiss bill o'brien, uh, uh, uh, josh mcdaniel Three play callers got jobs. Yeah one guy bill o'brien never won a super bowl with him. He lost He was he was he lost This guy won a Super Bowl with him. He lost he was he was he lost This guy won a Super Bowl calling plays. Yeah But you know how they would look at it they would look at it like Brady regards to you who is calling place for you. You was off you call them play for Tom Brady So regards was he not doing with was he not the quarterback for Charlie Rice?

Was he not the quarterback for Bill O'Brien? Was he not the quarterback for Josh McDaniel? It got so bad, Josh McDaniel got three, got another job. Hold on, he got the job, hold on, Ocho, he got the job at Denver. We know what he did, we don't need to bring that up. Got the job at Indy and said, you know what, via fax, and said, nah, I ain't gonna take the job, I'm gonna stay here.

And then when got another job. Right. But there's a difference. You understand what, you know what? I'm not making this show about this. I mean, the writing is on the wall, the proof is in the pudding. You can see it for yourself.

This ain't the first time this has happened. It's happened continuously over and over and over. I don't need to say it. Open your eyes. Okay. So. I'm't need to say it. Open your eyes. Okay. So I'm happy for him. Getting the position there. Marshall Falk is there. Obviously Warren Sapp is there. The environment that Prime is constructing for the players and the young men that are there are obviously preparing them to be able to

play at the level, at the next level, if they get a chance or opportunity to make it and have them obviously the tutelage from players that played at the highest level, that some were immensely great, like Prime and Warren Sapp, and you have some that had good careers, you know, in your bribery leverages, and he can help the quarterbacks being that not only did he play the position but he also coached some at the at the best position and also won a ring if I'm not mistaken. Who? Byron? Yeah. But they lost that year with the Bucks. No, well he coached, what you call him? He coached Brady. Yeah, that beat they beat new it they beat uh, the chief Yeah, you got a ring. Okay. Yeah, I'm right. I'm right. Yeah, I stand corrected. Okay

No, no, no Uh look guys want to get they want to get pro ready quarterback coach, um, uh, uh Pat shirmer is the oc um Marshall running back, hall of fame, sap, hall of fame, D line and get to the quarterback. Hey, he put together a great staff guys that if you have the ability now, just cause you

go to Colorado, if you ain't got the ability to play in the NFL, I don't give a damn, I don't give a damn who coaching. If you can do it or you ain't got the ability to play NFL I don't give a damn I don't give damn who coaching right if you can do it or you can now they might help you with some technique and some little stuff but you got to have the ability to go get it done yes sir yeah whose house Prime's house Prime shows off his backyard oh Joe check this out let Let me see it. Let me see it. Let me see it What? Oh, that's it. That's the one in Texas, huh? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah Be doing too much If it was, if it wasn't as late as it was, I would call him. I would call him tomorrow. Yeah. You do it too much. That's nice.

Oh, that's nice. And I would tell him, I would go fishing in one of the ponds and before you realize, I'm gonna have the fish fried up on the bank. Cause he make you throw the fish back on you, I'm gonna fry them up. He do? He make you put them back?

Yeah, yeah. He make you put them back. He'll let you keep them. That's a good one. That's funny. I mean, at some point the fish got an understanding Yeah, you make him put them back. He'll let you keep them. That's a good one. That's funny. I mean, at some point, the fish got to understand what's going on and stop

biting on the goddamn line. Unfortunately, they're not going to be able to do that. Especially if you catch them while they bedding. Oh, yeah. Because, hey, they bedding. Hey, that's free food. Or they try to, sometimes they try to take them and get that out of their bed.

Yeah. they try to sometimes they try to take it and get that out of their bed yeah Jalen Milrose officially Milro officially runs unofficially 437 in the 40 yard dash at Alabama Pro Day. O! Ocho, check out this video. Hey, I like- You're picking them up and putting them down, Ocho. Hey, you're putting them up and putting them down, huh? One foot in front of the other. I don't care nothing about that. And for a quarterback, I don't care nothing. I saw the greatest quarterback currently run five, two, three, four, five, two, three,

two, three, four, five, two, three, four, five, two, three, four, five, two, three, two, three, four, five, two, three, four, five, two, three, four, five, two, three, in front of the other. I don't care nothing about that. And for a quarterback, I don't care nothing. I saw the greatest quarterback currently run five to five. Yeah, five to five. It don't mean nothing, but also being able to run four through seven, it means something, especially in today's game. With all the dual threat quarterbacks that we do have that are elite,

a la Josh Allen, a la Lamar Jackson Tell me the fastest quarterback they ever won a Super Bowl and the fastest quarterback in the Hall of Fame. I'll wait. Go ahead. No, no, I mean you're right about that You're right about that, but I'm just telling you I'm giving you a different perspective I'm giving you a different perspective on how it's helped immensely being able to do two things and just not be one dimensional. It's okay to be able to have a quarterback that can use his legs. Look at the growth of Lamar Jackson.

Look where he is now. Look how far he's come. It ain't even about running no more. I'm running only if I have to Because I've become now I'm a pastor. I'm a pastor the ball You know, so so brother milk Milro being able to run that fast as all it is great It's a good thing, but had you seen what he could do with his arm Man not nearly consistent enough. I knew you I knew yeah, yeah, listen, at, at some point, at some point you will be.

Now you always get to see you. I just want you to tell me who the fastest guy to ever win the Super Bowl and the fastest guy in the Hall of Fame. That's all I'm waiting for. There's a lot of fast ones in the Hall of Fame. You fast. Who? You and them.

No, at quarterback. Quarterback? Mm-hmm. Let me think, hold on. Johnny United's in the Hall of Fame, ain't he? He is. Yeah, Johnny ran 4-4. In the 20.

Psh. Psh. Psh. Psh. Psh. Psh. Psh. Psh.

Psh. That's not good to say. I mean, that's great. Um, hey. Oh, shoot. Hey, that was fun. At the end of the day, Ocho. Yeah. Hey, gotta throw it. Mm-hmm. All right, Ocho, it's time for our last segment of the evening. Wait, whoa, whoa, whoa.

We getting off already? Yeah. Sheldon Pope. Oh, no, time for Q&A. Come on, give us our graphic. Come on, give us our graphic. Come on, give us our graphic. Come on, give us our graphic.

Come on, give us our graphic. Come on, give us our graphic. Come on, give us our graphic. Come on, give us our graphic. Come on, give us our graphic. Come on, give us our graphic. Come on, give us our graphic. Come on, give getting off of Reddit? Yeah. Sheldon Pope. Oh, no, time for Q&A. Come on, give us our graphics. We just got on. I done took a five-hour nap. I got energy and you leaving. Sheldon Pope said, oh, you enjoy playing Risha Roulette. I did. I did. See, see, see, see, see.

I did. I'm so excited. I'm so excited. It's a good game. It's a good game. I can see how that game can get your ass in trouble. Yeah. Especially you, a group of y'all around,

you know, hey, Ocho, y'all on your, you go, you and your buddies, and y'all in, women in Vegas, or y'all in Cancun or Jamaica. Yeah. Some freaky-ish about to happen. DarkBorn said, uh, got a question for Ocho. In his opinion, who was better being a receiver duo, Jamar and T or him and TJ? Oh that's a good one that's a good one and obviously we didn't throw

the ball. Is it? Yeah it's a good one. We didn't throw the ball. Yeah I did throw the ball. Not like that man stop playing now you know we ain't throw the ball like that man. You see what the boys doing today? They run a hundred plays and 98 of them throwing. You know? But listen I love love myself and TJ, man. I love us to death. And as much as I love Jamar and T and praise them, like I'm a preacher, I will always take me and TJ over there, no matter what.

And that's what all the respect of what them boys doing and are gonna continue to do with that franchise. But it'll always be me and TJ boy. Ain't nothing like that. Ain't nothing like it. And people wouldn't understand it, especially the younger generation, unless you were there. You had to be there and would have had to see it

live and in person to understand. Dr. Frank L. Bellaman said, speak of church, the way you were citing Joe on first date was awesome You sure you don't want to be a preacher the pulpit would be rocket. Oh Joe. Okay Ocho could be your deacon. Yeah. Yeah I had to put me in the pulpit now Yeah, I asked when I was a little boy

The pastor the church told my grandmother, say, Mary, that boy has a way with words. He said, a lot of people can talk, Mary. He said, but very few people can speak. That boy can speak. And you know what I'm saying, Hojo, I'm a kid, I probably was like 10, 11, but uh, to like, like there's nothing like hearing a great speaker to hear, uh, to go back and listen to Dr. King just hear him speak, to hear Churchill to hear him speak,

to hear JFK and to hear him speak, and Tekashi Coates to hear him speak. There's some people that have a voice, because in order to be a great orator, you must have a cadence. There's a sequence that your voice can elevate and rise. I mean, rise and then fall. If you hear Dr. King, just listen for the cadence in which he speaks. That's everything. You know who else you can hear it in? Recently.

Who that? In that cadence, Obama. If you listen to Obama, you can hear that cadence as well with him when he goes high and goes low. And he's able to, the ability to command the ear. He got it, it's a gift. Yeah.

It's a gift. Malcolm X. Yeah. A No Run 75, no Jive, I'm Alive, later than five. Jay 213, hey Uncle Nocho, who is one person dead or alive you want to sit down and have a conversation with, excluding family? Oh Frank Sinatra. Frank Sinatra. Frank Sinatra. I mean, if you know me and my love for music, the arts and dance and theater

and all the things that I like, Sinatra. For what he stood for, you know, in a time when you really shouldn't be standing forward, if you know what I mean, you know? Yeah. And man, the opportunities that he gave people of color during his time, man, Sinatra, I would love, and still to this day, I have an appreciation for him,

his music and everything he's done, not only as an artist, but away from music as well. Some of the things he fought for and the opportunities he gave others. Refusing to play in certain places unless you know who was also afforded the same opportunities in those rooms. Oh man, Sinatra.

Now there's so many other great ones. I'm just telling you about mine, you know, in any. Yeah, yeah. Oh my goodness. Yeah, I mean, for me, probably Dr. King, Malcolm X. Yeah. I've always been drawn to people that could that could speak great orators.

And Prince. Prince? Prince, yeah. If Reezy, who cares one, two two if Joe gonna get hurt cuz the Bengals had to Get PE teachers and Jim Rose for the old line PE teachers and Jim Rose PE teachers and Jim bros Okay, no Joe do the Broncos have the most stacked roster in the AFC West now at the free agency

Who do you think the Denver is going to want at pick 20? Well, you got your quarterback. Yeah They want they're going receiver You think so? Absolutely Absolutely, okay Absolutely You think so? Absolutely. Absolutely. Okay. Absolutely. They gonna get them playing make off that board man. I can tell you that. Yeah, cuz I like Sutton. Yeah I like Sutton too. I like Sutton but they need they need another. Maybe get one of them tight ends. I mean, Omarion Hampton running back North Carolina is what Mark Draff say, because they let Javante Davis go. William, Javante Williams.

Yeah. Another Carolina kid. Brody Burton, I'm saying this to Ocho, no licking, no sucking toes, no farting around me. It's Blake of the five. Jeradiah Williams, hey Uncle Ocho, my birthday was yesterday. I'm 45, but I don't look a day over 38. Jeradiah, thank you. Happy birthday,. You're a dyer. Thank you. Happy birthday, bro.

Happy birthday, bro. Happy birthday. But we in the same boat too. So I don't look a day over 25. People tell me that all the time in person. Boy, you look so young. Boy, what's your skincare routine? So I told him I ain't really got none.

I just eat right. I don't know what he said. Same for tomorrow. Fran Brown makes his players save 40% of, okay. I was gonna say, what is this? Oh, okay, okay. Oh, yes, I didn't even see that. He said save for tomorrow.

Guys, that concludes this, ay. Oh, Joe, it's been a long day for for your boy. Yeah, cuz I was in Savannah Uh-huh. We just got back watch the game. I'm up on the plane again tomorrow morning car picking me up at 530 I'm headed to chop. I'm headed to Charleston Okay. Okay. You what you doing? You got you got liquor signin? Yeah I'm back. I'll give I'll get back tomorrow night and I'll be better cuz I ain't got anything to do Saturday I mean a Friday. Yeah, so your boy be ready to go but I gotta get a I gotta get at least three hours sleep Yeah, well, listen you are now don't be surprised if I pop up on you when I'm signings man

And I look out in Miami. You ain't pop up on nothing. Well, I went here. I went here then I'm just saying I'm just saying, you know your little tour if I pop pop up You know in a whole La Porte outfit like a costume Hey, I'm coming to Charleston hoping they got some good break Hey, somebody leave me something in the chat tell me in Charleston where they got a good breakfast because I want some good old Southern-style grits. I want some bacon on bacon crispy scrambled eggs, you You know, hey, just like that. I mean, I like pancakes, but I ain't gotta have them. Grits, eggs, sausage or bacon. Let your boy know where I need to go. McDonald's?

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