Club Shay Shay - Nightcap - Hour 1: Lakers beat Nuggets, Vikings are making McCarthy QB1, & Cam Heyward recruiting pitch to Aaron Rodgers

Episode Date: March 20, 2025

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson react to the Lakers beating the Jokic-less Nuggets, Vikings making McCarthy their starter, and some interesting comments coming out of Pittsburgh! We also look at Prime’s insane backyard & much more!08:10 - Lakers vs. Nuggets15:30 - Vikings moving forward with JJ McCarthy28:15 - Cam Heyward37:25 - Najee Harris46:13 - Bengals press conference56:35 - Lions propose new seeding59:30 - Colorado adds Byron Leftwich to coaching staff1:04:30 - Jalen Milroe run 4.37 at Pro Day1:08:00 - Q&Ayyyyy(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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LeBron Rui was out, Luca 31 points, nine rebounds, seven assists. Luca is his 230 point game. He had a 20 point quarter and a 20 point half. So he had it going early, Austin Reeves had it going early. Oh, I mean for them like the first quarter, they could not miss a three.

They had 45 points in the first quarter. Stepped off the gas a little bit in the second quarter. Let them get back into the ball game. Stepped on the gas again on the third quarter. Blew the game open. I think the Nuggets scored 31, 32 points in the fourth quarter, but it wasn't nearly enough. Yoke, excuse me, Luca 31 points, nine rebounds, seven assists.

His 230 point game, Austin Reeves had 22.8 assists, but I thought the Lakers played really well. They set the tempo early. They didn't play down to the level of competition, no it. Two of their best players without it. Sometimes you get that get that oh Joe the Warriors made that mistake the other night Mm-hmm look dad like ah Murray not play it right Oh, you're not playing and the next thing you know find yourself with an L on you But watching the game what you thought about the Lakers and how they look tonight. I mean it was impressive

It was very impressive not only did Luca come out and set the tone in the first quarter with 22 in the first quarter, actually, he said, Luca set the tone for the game, what he did in the first quarter, coming out with 21 points in the first quarter. And everybody played well. Most of the time, what happens is, when you play a team that doesn't have a player

like Murray playing and the other joke. What's his name? Joker? No. Okay. Jokic. I don't know why I keep calling him Joker. Jokic playing. You play down to your competition. Most of the time you end up losing similar to how the how the Warriors did the other night. But obviously the Lakers didn't do that. They did slow down at some point, but it wasn't enough for the Nuggets to get back in the game and eventually ended up winning the game. So, I mean, it was a good game. Obviously the superstars are out.

You would have liked to have seen Jokers playing Ann Marie, LeBron healthy, Luca playing just to see a team at full strength to see what the game would have been like. Yeah, I thought the Lakers, I thought JJ had a good game plan, but when the shots were playing, damn the game plan. Yeah. I thought they moved the ball early.

I think sometimes the Lakers get careless. There are times, look, you just have to accept. Right. Luca is going to try some things. I mean, he's going out of bounds. He tried to throw a pass behind his back. Turnover. And that allowed, that's what allowed the Nuggets to make this run.

They started turning the ball over in the second quarter. Hold on, what'd he do? What'd he do? Going out of what? He's going out of bounds and trying to throw the ball behind his back to a guy right there in front of the basket. I was like, Lord have mercy, Luca. But that's Luca.

You have to accept the good with the bad. Right. That's his game, that's how he plays, and you have to be willing to roll with it. You gotta think about it, when it comes to him, now you do some things you don't like, you gotta accept the good with the bad, but there's more good than bad when it comes to him when he's playing. Yeah, for sure. AR, man, AR has been great.

I like this game, but you could tell and you look at him from the time he got there to the way he is now, he's immensely better. You can tell he's a student of the game. You can tell he put time in on his game. You can tell that it's important to him. And that's what I like to see. Regardless of the sport you play, it needs to mean something to you. You gotta wanna get better. You can't rest on your laurels.

Yeah, he got a three-year contract, probably paid like 13, 14 million dollars. He said, nah, I want one of them big daddies. I want one of them two-hundies. And he gonna get it. And he would have earned it. He would have earned it. And you see why the Lakers were so unwilling to part ways with him.

Everybody in every trade always tried to include him. And a lot of trades broke down because the Lakers were unwilling to part ways with him. They saw the improvement. They saw the match, the maturation getting better from the three, getting better at finishing at the rim, gotten the Niles handles, he's putting the ball to the floor, got the nice snatch pull. Uh, he's really, he's turned himself into an all star caliber player.

And I understand that there are a lot of great guards and you gotta get back Steph and you got Ja, and you got Shea Gilder and you got Harden, you got some Kyrie, you got some really good guards in the Western Conference. But man, the way he's playing, he's an all-star caliber, you know, he's an all-star caliber player. And he can handle the ball. LeBron has trusted him for a very very long time. If you go back and look at that

The Memphis Grizzlies series. He actually won him a game LeBron's like no don't give the ball to me. You take it Go win the game for us and he's done that so I just love the way he's improved how he's gotten better in this Laker team I think if they get healthy, I think they can be dangerous. I still think they're a big short, but hey, we'll see what happens when the rubber needed to meet the road. Yeah, well, listen, you know the game of basketball

very well, so does everybody else. Everyone else with the knowledge of the game of basketball has said the same thing about the Lakers. They don't have a big. In order to compete, in order to go as far as you need to go, you're gonna have to have a big. And they just don't have it. But we can see what they can do.

We gonna see what they can do with that two-headed muscle. Once LeBron comes back, we'll see what happens. Well, cause they're gonna be small. Once Jackson Hayes goes out of line, they're small. I mean, Coloco, he's okay. A little small. I mean, Coloco, he's okay. A little small. Height, okay. Height's fine, but he just don't have enough bricks in his back pocket.

And so people can just uproot him and just move him off the spot. On the spot, yeah. Yeah. But, you know, I mean, and there are going to be some times that probably LeBron is going to have to slide to the five. And, you know, I mean, because really, gonna be some times that probably LeBron's gonna have to slide to the five. Oh and you know, I Mean cuz really if you really think about there's not a whole lot of guys that have you know Rudy go bear is not gonna cause you any damage Basically, you know, they got hardened staying they got Chad Hongan

but when you look at a Memphis Zach Eady, he's just a big body. He just sit screen and stuff like that. Yeah, take enough space. Die to the basket. Yeah, yeah. Take enough space, yeah. So you look at the teams, now Sungoon, Sungoon now, he can be a problem for the Rockets.

Yes, sir. Yeah, he's an all-star. He's an all-star for a reason. But like I said, I like the Lakers. LeBron gets healthy. Luca is Luca come playoff time. He has the third high scoring, no, he has the second high scoring average and playoff history with that being said LeBron healthy LeBron is a top five in playoff history as far as scoring they can do some damage

But I just wish they had another big I don't know why they signed Alex Lin Hey, I'm getting bit too high on brother Lin baby. Yeah, what's wrong with brother Lynn? He uh, he he's about He's probably about 35 days away from being the tallest coach in history That's his next profession. It ain't gonna be an NBA. It's gonna be coaching basketball somewhere Maybe high school. Oh Joe The Vikings are set to roll with JJ McCarthy. Thank you. Not pursue Aaron Rodgers.

Thank you. The Vikings have rejected multiple trade calls for JJ McCarthy telling other teams they're moving forward with him as their quarterback. The team plans to add a veteran, but they're not pursuing Aaron Rodgers at this time. McCarthy now enters the off season as QB one. That's it. That's a good thing.

That's a good thing. And listen, I don't like the way Aaron Rogers is using the leverage, using his past, his accolades, his resume and what he's done in the past. The whole team steadily at hostage. Now, some of the reports might hold him hostage. Move on. Oh, look, they're allowing him, just like Green Bay allowed him to do all the things that he did. They're the Jets allowed. Right.

They allowed it. The Jets allowed it. Just move on. That's exactly what they should do. Now, this is what I like about Minnesota. The reports came up. The reports came out about Minnesota obviously being in the hunt for trading for him and what they did right away.

It ain't even been two days. Oh we gonna nix that real quick. We don't have time to play them games with you. So obviously you haven't learned your lesson with the last two places you've been to because now here you go tell the other teams you're not sure on what you want to do yet. Having them wait using the leverage that you do have the little bit of leverage you still have to play games. I'm glad that Minnesota Vikings came out and said what they said. They're going forward with J.J. McCarthy because you drafted him for a reason and you understand what he can do, especially with the supporting cats he has around him because you saw what

Sam Darnan was able to do. He wasn't able to do it with the Jets, he wasn't able to do it with the Panthers, but all of a sudden he comes to Minnesota and he has a career year. And now it's time for J.J. McCarthy to step up and do the same damn thing and that's what he's probably going to do because what he has around it was very very special. Yeah well you got to find out what if the guy can play or not Ojo? I mean you keep kicking the can down the road. Oh yeah but listen even if he couldn't play we didn't think Sam

Donahue would play either when he was with the Jets. We didn't think he was going to play when he was with the Panthers. But all of a sudden magically he turned with the Jets. We didn't think he would be able to play when he was with the Panthers. But all of a sudden, magically, he turned into the God damn Houdini over there in Minnesota. But we saw what he looked like the last two games of the season. Because see, there's this thing called expectation. You tell me, because think about what you just said.

You didn't think Sam Donogh was gonna do that. Nobody thought Sam Donogh was gonna do that until expectations came along. And then expectations came along. Oh, we gotta get the number one seed. And then what happened? Oh, we're in the playoffs. Then what happened?

He turned back into Sam Darnall. You see, expectations is the number one killer of goals and dreams. Because the moment someone expects something up, see, that's the only way you could hurt me, Ocho. If I don't expect anything, if I'm in a relationship, and I'm just casually, I don't expect nothing. Hey, you do you, I'm, Ocho. If I don't expect anything, if I'm in a relationship

and I'm just casually, I don't expect nothing, hey, you do you, I'ma do me. It's the moment we have expectations in each other that it bothers me, that it hurts me if you do something that I don't agree with. See what I mean? So the Vikings started to have expectations. We started to have expectations for Sam Darnold.

And you see what happened? Now, you was preaching a little too fast. Now I'm not sure the people in the chat, I'm not sure the people in the chat didn't catch that, but that was a moment. That was a moment a lot of people might have missed because we're talking about football, but that's something that could apply to life

that I think a lot of people miss, but I didn't miss it. Because as soon as I heard it, you know I keep that thing on me. Yeah you keep it all you? Expectations. Now bring that to me again and I got to write it down. Now when it gets to the end of the year what I'm gonna do is I'm gonna take all these quotes that I wrote down and I'm gonna make a nightcap booklet called On Quotes so that people can apply it to life.

Expectations. Just give it to him one more time. Yeah, it's the number one killer of dreams and goals. Because here's the thing, Ocho, Sam Darnold, nobody because they're like, man, he was terrible with the Jets. Well, he was terrible with Carolina. Well, we didn't get an opportunity to see him really at Sam Fran. So everybody was expecting, remember the last two stops that they saw him that he wasn't that good, right? Okay, so now he doesn't have any expectations the more you win the more expectations come along with that. So now

The last couple of games of the season. Okay, we got an opportunity to get the number one seed, right? Boom. Oh, we're the playoffs now don Don't matter, blah, blah, blah. Boom. Yeah. And you know that, that playoff atmosphere is different now. That's a whole different ballgame than playing in the regular season. Regular season, he looked phenomenal. It's a different type of pressure, again, the one word expectation that comes that comes with being the quarterback

Especially especially in that type of situation. So I kind of I kind of understand and the team you are playing or had to play. Yeah Yeah, but that's what happens when you have expectations Oh Joe, like I said, and I like to equate things to relationships because most of the people, especially in our chat, it's been a relationship. Can't relate to it, yeah. It's the moment you have expectations. You see, when a couple's in a relationship, in marriage, there's an expectation. You're going to be faithful, I'm going to be faithful. I'm going to protect you, you're going to protect me. Come on, man.

I'm going to honor the vows that we stood before God and we swore to each other. Now, I have that expectation. But hey, if you say, hey, what you doing tonight? I ain't gonna be able to see you tonight. And everybody, there's no expectations. I have no obligation. You have no obligation to me. I see you when I see you.

Holla when I holla. Hey, you know what I don't like about the analogy and explanation that you're giving me right now is the marriage one normally doesn't work. But the one with no expectations, hell, you be friends, you be sneaky links or whatever you want to call it for years and years and years and years all the way down the line because there are no expectations so there's no failure or reason for anything to happen in. Only but here's the sneaky part though, Ocho, where to get you. You see the number one cause that will cause a relationship to end is uncommunicated expectations. You see Ocho, she expected you to get her flowers and you didn't get them. Why didn't you tell me you wanted flowers?

You expected her, she expected you, Ocho, to plan this vacation. You didn't know she wanted to go on a vacation. Uncommunicated expectations. Ocho thought that you know what, hey, she gonna do this thing for Father's Day, we gonna do it up, blah, blah, blah. She didn't do it.

You see, uncommunicated expectations, but again, uncommunicated, but what's the end part? Expectations. I like that. I haven't heard that. I haven't even heard that word before. Not used in this context and actually used together. Uncommunicated expectations.

I like that. That's new for me. She has an expectation, but she didn't communicate them with you. You have an expectation, but you didn't communicate them with her. So those uncommunicated expectations and what happens, a lot of times people have what we call implosive personalities. They hold things, hold things, hold things. There's only so much you can hold before it explodes.

The term, oh, you went postal. Yeah. Boom. And so now, instead of just saying, well, you know, Chad, I thought that we were gonna do this. No, one month go by, two months go by, three months go by, four months go by, and it's building. Wait, months?

You don't know, it's not been communicated, so you don't know. It's building, it's building, it's building. Boom, then it blows. Yeah. You've been with me all this time, you should've known. How many times have you heard that on show? All the time.

You know what I like. Yeah, all the time, the time because you've been with someone for a certain amount of time. Ain't no woman all the time. Oh I know you real well. I know you real well. I knew what she was going to say. You can say something. Yeah. She can finish this sentence for you. But all of a sudden when it comes to certain stuff, oh, you didn't want to let me know. I didn't know you wanted that. I didn't know you wanted that. I didn't know you wanted that. Oh, you can't read my mind. I threw you hints. I gave you a sign a few, I gave you a sign a few weeks ago.

A sign? Yeah. What? Yeah. Yeah. In the commercial. I mentioned it when it came on TV. Yeah.

I missed a sign that God gave me too. Just say what you want. You should have told me, you should have said I missed the sign that God gave me too. Just say what you want. You should have told her, you should have said, I missed the sign that God gave me. I should have left your ass alone about six months ago. I missed that sign. But then, and that's the thing.

I just think, you know, sometimes we take for granted and you've been in a relationship, just tell me. Yeah. I'm very, I'm one of these guys, Ocho. Just tell me. Yeah. If you wanna do something, tell me. I, I'm very I'm one of these guys. Oh Joe. Just tell me Yeah, if you want to do something tell me I don't have time I got too much ish on my plate. Yeah to try to try to figure out what you want You can just open your mouth and say if you want to go here say that right you want to eat that

Say that if you want this say that but the guy me You know, you know what to talk about you know what to talk about on them shows. What the heck? What they got to do with this? What that got to do with you telling me what you would like to do. And so I think the thing here for the Vikings, they have an expectation now they see their offense They realize that hey Jeddah is gonna be Jeddah Hawkinson's been a pro bowl player Addison a well the more opportunities we give him the better he can be yeah Offensive line, maybe they can add a piece to the offensive line. But other than that, yeah, I Think you you owe it. I mean you dropped the kid when you drafted him,

and now you keep kicking the can down the road. And he's like, hold on, what I gotta do? You told me I was the guy, and now I get hurt. Okay, I get that, I understand that. I got hurt, there's nothing I can do about that, Ocho. But then I come back, and y'all got another guy, you tell me I gotta wait another year? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

That would bother anybody, especially a quarterback that got drafted, where he got drafted, expected to start, but due to injury, he had a small setback. And now you've done all the work you need to do during the season last year to get yourself back, not only in playing shape physically and mentally, but now you talk about bringing somebody else in, another veteran presence,

and telling me I gotta take a backseat again? Wait a minute, wait a minute! What are we talking about here? So I'm happy for him, I'm glad that the organization decided to hurry up and nix the rumors that were out there about Aaron Rodgers coming in and let JJ McCarthy give him that sense of security mentally, so he can go forward and know he's quarterback one and doesn't have to look over his shoulder.

I agree. It's Julie Stewart Banks. I'm doing a new podcast from iHeart podcasts and the national hockey league. And I'm paired up with one of my favorite players, the always quotable Nate Thompson. I wore nine NHL sweaters and I have story after story to share and believe it or not I have plenty to say and not just about hockey. Believe me He does. Energy Line with Nate and JSB is the name of the podcast and it's gonna be well

It's gonna be quite the ride. We're officially line mates Nate. We're the Energy Line We'll have plenty of folks join us. Current players, some of my former teammates, Hall of Famers, and wait to see some of the connections that Julie has. She has quite the Rolodex. Okay, we'll lean into Nate's playing experience and tap into our interests away from hockey and try to do what Energy Lines are supposed to do, provide an emotional boost. How do you feel about all that, Nate? I'm vibing, Julie. I'm ready to roll.

Listen to Energy Line with Nate and JSB on the I heart radio app Apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts My name is Brendan Patrick Hughes host of divine intervention This is a story about radical nuns and combat boots and wild-haired priests Trading blows with J Edgar Hoover in a hell-bent effort to sabotage a war. J. Edgar Hoover was furious somebody violated the FBI and he wanted to bring the Catholic left to its knees. The FBI went around to all their neighbors and said to them,

do you think these people are good Americans? It's got heists, tragedy, a trial of the century, and the God-damnedest love story you've ever heard. I picked up the phone and my thought was, this is the most important phone call I'll ever make in my life. I couldn't believe it. I mean, Brendan, it was divine intervention.

Listen to Divine Intervention on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Well, this is what Cam Hayward, the great defensive tackle for the Pittsburgh Steelers, was asked if he'll be doing any recruiting to help bring Rogers to Pittsburgh. I ain't doing none of that darkness retreat. I don't need any of that crap. Either you want to be a Pittsburgh Steeler or you don't. That's simple. That's the pitch. If you want me to recruit, that's recruiting pitch Pittsburgh Steelers. If you want to be a part of it, so be it. If you don't, no skin off my back. Hey, there are certain teams, you look at the logo on the helmet, they don't need no help. They don't need no recruiting pitch. The product sells itself. Again, I always use that. I use it.

I always use that example of Blue Magic in the movie American Gangster with Denzel Washington. The product sells itself. The Steelers historic franchise, them stars on the side of the helmet, it sells itself. The other franchise, things are bigger in Texas, the product sells itself. You don't need to do anything for it. You don't have to recruit nobody. You have to sell nobody nothing because it sells itself. That wouldn't be a recruitment, Ocho. That would be be a recruitment Ocho, that'll be begging and that's what he wants. Thank you. I like that. Because what did the Jets do? The Jets got on a private plane and flew to him. Yes sir. I mean, Ocho I don't know

if you saw this but I had Young Miami on the podcast. Hey, um, hey um, but I saw you shooting, boy. Hey listen, let me tell you something, boy, you were shooting 70% from the field that night, boy. 80-70%. Hey, um, don't do that. I see you blushing, baby. Nah, nah, nah, nah, I wasn't shooting. Nah. Yeah, you shoot. I'm just having great conversation. That's all, Joe.

You know when you're conversating, that's called shooting. Now, depending on what you say, it ain't what you say, it's how you say it. It's all about your delivery, baby. You was on point. You was on point. But let them tell it, I was shooting that cash doll. I was shooting that Amber Rose. I was shooting that Young Miami. No, no, no, no. I was shooting that Kiki. I was shooting that Leva Dab. I was shooting that Megan Gabb. Leva Dab. Can I have a conversation? Well, this was a little different now. You didn't shoot that cash doll. You didn't shoot that cast all. You didn't shoot it nobody else.

Now, it's this conversation and the energy and the aura and the chemistry in which you can't see. You can't see it because you actually in the room. See, I'm not in the room with you. Huh? Yeah. I can see the heat coming off the couch. You hear me? I can see the connection in the chemistry.

Now I'm not, I'm talking about the type of chemistry when you play Twister, that kind chemistry where they say red you got the crossover You hear me? Yeah, I've seen it now. You can't see it. So it's my dude. I'm in the room. Listen I know you're in the room. That's why you can't see that. So I'm trying to tell you what I saw Your wife I was on point. I'm talking about every every bar was there. It was there. It was a connection There was chemistry you can't see it. So I you do it that what you will and what you may do another way. I'm not doing anything Well, we're happy. I'm one thousand For me right, okay

Couldn't a good conscience right? It's all it would be almost like I'm a therapist and some Lady comes and talks about a problem and then I end up sleeping with her or if I'm a lawyer and I have a client and I know she's vulnerable. Right. Right. Nah, bro, I'm just having a conversation. I mean, I love the fact. Let me see.

What you, you know, it's the problem. It's the problem with this is what happens when it comes to us. When it comes to us, our people, it's the problem. It's the problem But this is what happens when it comes to us when it comes to us our people we overthink things We overthink things and we try to analyze them and we put things in our head with a scenario like you just did Now you just said a scenario you gave a narrative That fit the way you thought This individual is based on a situation that you created now see God always has a plan for us and he puts people in our life in certain situations

and you're missing your blessing. That could be. Now, young Miami chose to come do club shay-shay and sat down with you. Now that could have been a sign. That could have been. I'm grateful for every guest. Yeah, now listen, that could have been a sign from God.

You never know. Now what I saw when I watched the interview, I say, but this is more than just a talk. This is more than just a conversation. Now I can see the energy, I can see the aura, I can see the chemistry on camera. Now you can't see it and I'm telling you again. Now listen to me when I talk to you, because I wouldn't tell you and I wouldn't see you wrong, because this wheel, the wheel over here, Jesus got this one, okay? I'm telling you, I'm not telling you to make no moves. I'm just telling you, I can see it.

And I'm not blind. Ocho. I know we got people watching, you really don't want to say none of that. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. It's not that there's not people watching. It's just like, you heard what she said. Man, guys show, Ocho, guys showing up with Croc Berkins.

Yeah. On the first day? Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa,cho, guys showing up with Kroc Berkins. Yeah. On the first date? Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, hold on, man. Now you just talked about, I want somebody. You talked about Wage just the other night, man. You talked about Berkins and G-Wagons. Now this is right up your alley. It's about what you, just what you were talking about.

Ocho, Ocho, that's a buildup. She said Berkins now is a starter pack. I'm thinking LB, I'm thinking Gucci, YSL, I'm thinking Dior. She say Birkins, croc Birkins. That's a starter pack. Guys buying Jeep. Come on man, y'all know. You say you want him young, huh?

Didn't I tell you, didn't I tell you you got to evolve? This is what you gotta deal with. You want when you want him young, huh? Didn't I tell you didn't I tell you got to evolve this is what you got to deal with you want when you want him young Huh? Right. Not only that there's certain other areas. I'm you gonna have to you're gonna have to listen You're gonna have to update your resume Well, I'm gonna have to go I'm gonna have to let me tell you what I'm gonna have to do I have to start going to church and get me somebody with a hat sitting in a sitting in the deacon ass corner Bad I got the brand. Hey, uh-uh. I tell you what, I tell you what,

I tell you what. Now if you do me a solid, then you do me a favor. Young Miami, that's my sister now. You know, she from Miami. She from Dade County now. I know what she talking about. I'm just making sure you know that's why I'm vouching for a sister where I am. I know, I know, I you're trying to keep it professional

I'm no but I but I like the fact I like the fact that they come in and they open up and we have a Conversation and we just be talking. I mean look I mean I had a great conversation Because like I said, I had no I didn't ever think I would even meet any of these people So to for me, I'm like, man, I can't believe you sitting across from me. That's how I look at them. I don't like, okay, let me try to throw a question here and try to get slick with it.

No, I ain't trying to do that. You guys, see, you got to do that. You got to say the things you're saying right now. I'm saying the things I'm saying that you can say that you might be thinking. See, that's what me being your other half is supposed to do. I'm supposed to be able to see things that you can't see and then relate what I see that you should do, but you don't want to do it because you keep, but you keep an assertive

level of professionalism. Not even knowing the blessing that's in your face. Yeah, I got to be professional at all times. Now let me tell you what I'm the blessedness in your face. At all times. Now let me tell you what I'm gonna do. Now you talk about, you understand the prerequisites when it comes to dealing with her. Now, if you want to lead up with one of them Cronkbergans, I've seen your 5200 to speed up the process. No, send me that car, that's what you owe me. Not because that's gonna be a dialed paper door to the damn bag.

Send me that, because that's what the hell you owe me. Not cause that's gonna be a dialed payment on the damn bag. Send me that cause that's what the hell you owe me. Check, y'all hear this bag? This bag is talking about, oh if you gonna get a Cronk Berkett, I'll see you 5200 on it. How you gonna send me money? How you gonna talk about you gonna send me something on it? What you owe me that? Hey, hey, hold on. Let me give you a prime example before we move on to the next topic. Before we move on to the next topic, understand the professionalism and what you carry yourself, destruction, discipline, and everything that you do.

That's what I love about you, that's why we work so well, because I'm the complete opposite. Yeah. So, I'm gonna give you a small example. Okay. There was a movie that came out not too long ago. When, ah, what's the lady's name? Jennifer Anderson was dating Brad Pitt.

They were a couple, they were together. And all of a sudden, Brad Pitt went off. Mr. and Mrs. Smith. Yeah, Brad Pitt went off to do a movie with Angelina Jolie. With Angelina Jolie, Mr. and Mrs. Smith, yes. Okay, you see where I'm going with this? So listen, it don't matter what you got going on in life.

Sometimes God puts you in situations, in this case, happen to be club shakes, you're able to sit down with Brother Shannon Sharp and Carisha in a situation to me, it was to me from the outside looking in, regardless of the professionalism that you're trying to instill and carry, because you have to, I saw a situation like that. Rampant, Angelina Jolie, the chemistry, it was just undeniable. And that's what I could see from far where I was at. Now you do it that again, now you do it that what you will and what you may. I'm just speaking my piece. And if I didn't tell you as your other half, I wouldn't be your friend.

But that's okay, we can go on to the next topic. Speaking of Pittsburgh, Nigel Harris says there is a lack of leadership with the Steelers. We just didn't know anything on offense really. We didn't have any identity. We had a young guy coming in at QB. I really didn't have nobody to almost learn from on the offensive side.

You like that he's saying that, Ocho? I mean, at the runner back position and saying that you don't have anybody to learn, you know, at that specific position, I don't really like that. I personally don't, because there's so many resources once you're in that atmosphere that you can learn from where it doesn't have to actually be a person

right there outside of your headcoach teaching you because there's so much you can learn on your own. They have film, they have volts, they have many goo gods of footage and stuff you can learn. Right. You know? Yeah. And to say something like that with the tutelage that you're getting at the organization you're

at, how could you even say something like that? Look at all the backs that have come through there. Yeah, but the better of leadership wasn't there when he got there. That's the thing that I'm very appreciative of. I had a guy, even though he was a year older than me, Steve Atwater, on how to be professional. I had Dennis Smith, who had been there since 1981, who said, this is how you do things, this is how you be professional. You be punctual, you be on time, you practice hard. I saw John, I saw all those guys, the veteran guys, and how they do things. Yeah. Okay. Me, now Ocho, I got the younger guys coming in.

Right. That's my job for Burns, Foots, Rod Smith, the other guys, TD, Chalk Eye, Howes, now I go to Baltimore. Now the other younger guys, some of the younger guys, the Rays and things, Todd Heath, that's what you do. That's, I think that's what he's talking about. Yeah. I think, I don't want to put words in his mouth, guys, but I think that's what he's talking about Yeah, I think now I don't want to put words in his mouth guys

But I think that's what he's talking about like how to be professional how to make sure I practice doing everything that I possibly can to make sure That I'm maximizing my time here and I'm very I'm very grateful that I got to Denver I had guys look there guys that wanted to party. I know that's not why I was there. Maybe Ocho had I been a first or second round pick, maybe I wouldn't partake. Probably not because that's never been my MO.

But knowing that I'm on thin ice, and I see Atwater, and I see Dennis Smith, and I see those other guys, John, and I see the way they do it, and they'll say, you know what, Yeah, I need to be in that group. Listen, I understand it, and I truly don't understand where he's coming from in a sense, because obviously,

you understand where it took you to get here, right? This NFL. Najay, you've been dreaming about this since you was a little shorty, since you were a little kid. This was a dream of mine. You have finally reached that pinnacle of reaching what you've always dreamed of. Then you, not only that, you part of historic franchise,

the Pittsburgh Steelers. I'm not getting somewhere and worried about veteran leadership. When I understand the work it took me to get here, I'm already aligned with the end goal. All my, all my goals reset themselves. Once I make it, I'm not worried about no veteran leadership. I know what I need to do based on the goals that I set myself personally. It don't matter who's in the room.

It don't matter where they're before me. Yeah, that shit I need to get done. And I got the focus and everything I do has to align with my end goal regardless of whether I have a veteran presence or not. At my specific position I want to be one of the best to play this game ever. You talk about no veteran leadership look at the players that came before you that play the exact position the Jerome Bettes, the Willie Parkers, I mean I'm sure you're gonna James Yeah but I need them there though Ocho. You're talking about a pro. A pro is the

occupation in which you do it. Right. That's a professional. A pro is how you go about that. You see it out there you see the difference between college and pro what do they do? They get your ass up, they make sure you go to study hall, they make sure you do X Y and Z, they make sure you go to study hall. They make sure you do X, Y, and Z. They make sure you in the weight room. Who does that when you go to the NFL? You. And I, it helps. It helps when you see somebody that, that's a pro. Because once you get there, we're all professionals, but to be a pro, it's something to be said. For me, that's just me. Now, hey, every two inches on. But there's something to be said for me, not just me. Now, hey, to each his own. But

there's something to be said for me to have veteran. I remember Mark Jackson would take me up on his wing and say, hey, you know, I see you ran that route, but I'm not so sure how to run it like that because blah, blah, blah. X, Y, Z. I said, okay, I appreciate that, man. He pulled me to the side. Hey, hey, threaten that guy a little bit more. Hey, you got your head around a little too far. So it's little stuff like that, Ocho. I mean, stuff that you can't see. Because you used to get, hey, Ocho,

we used to use God-given ability getting open. It take more than that in the NFL. Cause all them jokers got God-given. Hey, God touched all them. Yeah, I got you. I understand it and I wish I could tell the Najay to get better context and get a little bit more in depth on what he means by it.

And maybe I'm thinking a little different because of my approach. I wouldn't worry about no better leadership. I understood, okay, I finally got here. I know what my goals are. I want to make sure everything I do are going to align with the angle to make sure I become at some point,

one of the best they ever played, not just for the Bengals, but to play In the history of this game in general. I'm gonna leave my imprint whether people like me or not Then I think about also hell for the people in the chat Um, no better leadership. Where did I stay the first two years of my in nfl where I lived at? Yeah, and I'm locked in. I don't care who's there.

I know what I got to do. I know what it takes to make sure I'm able to be consistent. This sounds a rookie. Yeah. You know what? I might not have better impressions, but I'm going to do the things I think I need to do to make sure I give them the best of me. Giving you the best of me. Giving you the best of me.

You know, as a part of me, I think Nigee doesn't feel like the Steelers really appreciated him. Because a guy that's just barely rushing for a thousand yards is not gonna get the appreciation like a Saquon, like a Derrick Henry, like these guys rushing for 1,400, 1,500 yards. He's never had less than a thousand yards rushing though, Joe.

But he's not spectacular. You don't look at him like, oh my God. You don't think that when he gets the ball, see at least like St. Quine gets the ball, you think man, he might hit his head on the goalpost. Yeah. Or, or Derrick Henry going to end the game with 150, maybe 200 yards. That's not what you get from him. I thought he was a good back. I don't think

he changes lives. He's not a guy that's going to change your life. For me. Now in college, he was sensational. Yeah. He had a bell cowl. Three down back. I like him. It's Julie Stewart Banks. I'm doing a new podcast from iHeart Podcasts and the National Hockey League. And I'm paired up with one of my favorite players, the always quotable Nate Thompson. I wore nine NHL sweaters and I have story after story to share. And believe it or not, I have plenty to say and not just about hockey. Believe me, he does.

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I couldn't believe it. I mean, Brendan, it was divine intervention. Listen to Divine Intervention on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Oh Joe, Jamar was not Jamar Chase signed his deal. T Higgins signed his deal. They had their press conference. Jamar was not happy with the reporter calling T receiver number two. Let's take a listen to what he had to say.

We're going to leave you with a problem with the wide receiver one. When you see it put out there that you're the highest paid wide receiver two. How does that, one eight. You're saying it was put out by fixing it, one eight. Yes sir. You know, bro, I don't even look at it like that. You know what I mean? I kind of wish they wouldn't have put it out there

like that, so, cause now it's, that's why everybody's saying I'm the highest paid two. No, let's just say, I'm at a place where, you know, they value me and, you know, I'm not saying that I'm not a big receiver. I mean, I'm not saying that I'm not a big receiver. I mean, I'm not saying that I'm not a big receiver. I mean, I'm not saying that I'm not a big receiver. I mean, I'm not saying that I'm not a big receiver. I mean, I'm not saying that I'm not a big receiver. I mean, I'm not saying that I'm not a big receiver.

I mean, I'm not saying that I'm not a big receiver. I mean, I'm not saying that I'm not a big receiver. I mean, I'm not saying that I'm not a big receiver. I mean, I'm not saying that I'm not a big receiver. I mean, I'm not saying that I'm not a big receiver. I mean, I'm not saying that I'm not a big receiver. I mean, I'm not saying that I'm not a big receiver. that puts in the work and got his head down and just grinds. I mean, I've been saying it for a very long time, huh? I've been saying it for a very, very long time. Every time I talk about the Bangles duo,

I say it all the time, and I've been saying it for a very long time. You and I even went back and forth about it, continuously on here. I said, he's a wide receiver one that just happens to be on the team with another number one. There are a few instances, a few other teams that also benefit from this situation. I'm not sure what the reporter is doing.

And the reporter who understands the game of football and has been able to watch T and Chase together should know that no better than he's a one. If he was to leave there, he would have been paid as a number one because that's exactly what he is. It just so happens he have Tremar Chase on the other side of him. But anyway. Well, we look at, we look at, let me ask you a question. Yeah. When Pastor Tane lined up, who Pastor Tane going to? He going to Chase or he going to T Higgins? If he's following, he's going to Chase.

Okay, Sal's Gardner, Stingley. If he's following and going, he's going to Chase. So why would they- Listen, I understand what you're saying, right? Because that's the thing now, Ocho. Right. Hell, it used to be no QB one. Right.

It was the starter quarterback. Right. It was no QB. It was no wide receiver one. Right. It was wide receiver. It was Michael Irving, Sterling Charm, Jared Wright, Randy blah blah blah, Keough. Okay.

Now they got all these things wide receiver one, wide receiver two. Hold on now. Hold on. Ain't no all now. There are only a few teams like that. The Eagles, that's wide receiver 1A and 1B. The Bengals, that's wide receiver 1A and 1B. What they did over there with Cuba Cup and Puganacua, that was wide receiver 1A and 1B. Now what they would do is they would take some of your production, your opportunities away from you and make it look like it's something wrong with you and make it look like wide

receiver 2 when there's really nothing wrong with you if you understand the business and how they work your ass up out of there. But I mean, this is why I look at it, Ocho. Talk to me. Why didn't they give, if Jaylen Waldo was the equivalent of Tyreek, why didn't they give him the same type of money that he gave Tyreek? If Devontae Smith was the equivalent receiver, so why did they give T. Higgins 40 million? You know you can't work like that.

He wire receiver one. Wire receiver one get wire receiver one money. Right. Yeah. Listen, we can argue to it. But listen, normally when we talk about wire receiver one and we talk about wire receiver one, and we talk about wire receiver two, there is an enormous drop off in skill and talent. Enormous. Now you got two receivers that get it done the totally, two totally different ways. You got some- Are you saying, are you saying, are you saying there's no drop off? Hold on, I want to make sure I'm- Yeah, there's a drop off. I said enormous.

No, no, no. Extravagant. Extravagant drop off from your one and your two. There's a reason the person is a one and there's a reason the other person is a two. Now you got two, let me finish. You got two receivers that are really, really good at what they do. High points, short, intermediate, long balls. Now both of them do all of them really well.

I think that one of the few things that Chase might have on... Run after the catch. Yeah, is that goddamn run after the catch. My God. That's also because Chase, his background, his background in playing running back when he was younger. That's why he looked like that. Every time he get the ball, he like a damn running back. He bouncing on people, playing ping pong.

I mean, listen, you touch me, I'm going down. You touch me, I'm going down. I'm making a business decision. So I mean, I give you what you say. I'm glad he got paid. I think he earned it right. I mean, the way he played, he had been exemplary the whole while there.

They made him play under the tag. He played under the tag, he caught Nate, but he still had double-digit touchdown. He was gonna be well over a thousand yards. And so they compensated him. I love when teams reward their players for work put in. Now, Ocho, I've already paid you for what you've done. Now for me to give you this money,

they're not paying Chase for the Triple Crown because they paid him that. They're paying him for moving forward. We believe you're gonna put up numbers equivalent to that, if not better. I can't pay, I can't, how do I, I paid you. It wasn't like he didn't get a salary, Ocho, and now we got the make up for what we didn't give him, he got paid.

With that being said I believe chase They believe chase is gonna put up numbers Equivalent to if not better than what he put up last year. So I'm going to pay you accordingly. Yeah. Yeah and uh That was going and he's earned it yeah, absolutely He's earned it. I'm absolutely. Gee, he's earned it. I'm glad he didn't have to go. I'm glad he didn't have to go to get some, because so many times we see guys put, oh,

put the work in, put the work in, and then they gotta go somewhere else to get rewarded, to get the appreciation that I should have got from the club that drafted me. Yeah. You thought enough for drafting me. You know, that's why I tell people a lot of times what I love that by Dan Reeves He was smart enough to draft me, but somehow forgot to cut me The Bengals oh you you really loved he you did your homework you took him in the second round Mm-hmm, but now he give you all those great years and You won't let him you won't let him move on right and you won't let his cuz he is prime yet

Mm-hmm So now the next four years is really gonna be you know You want to let him, you're going to let him move on. Right. And you're going to let his, cause he ain't in his prime yet. So now the next four years is really going to be, you know, his prime and you're going to let somebody else reap that benefit cause you cheap. Yeah. So I was glad they finally. And you know what the funny thing, I think a lot of people haven't talked about,

they really don't know, is the person that's pulling the strings behind closed doors, the person with the power, the person who runs the show and is making the calls is really nine. Yeah, for sure. You know, a lot of people ain't talking about that. We talk about T going here, no matter what I said, no matter what people on ESP, no matter

what people have said on X or Twitter for that matter. The person behind the clause, the closed doors who went up to management and probably said, listen, I don't know what you need to do, what you need to do with the numbers on my card track or what you need to restructure. But uno and five, I need that back. Come hell or high water. If you understand Bill Burrow and how he conducts his business and the way he goes about it,

maybe that man Young Bull ain't playing. Not by them two. You know what I love, Ocho? The fact that he was outspoken about it. A lot of quarterbacks like, yeah, we'd love to have him back, but that's not my call. Right.

He said, no, we didn't back. Oh, no, no. Oh, he's definitely your own. He's like, they've earned the right. And he said the same thing about Trey Hendrickson. It seems like they're a little bit more open to trading Trey than potentially bringing him back, but that's something we'll discuss in a later date and time.

Right. But he came on we'll discuss in a later date and time. But he came on first take and he was very, hey, I want them to pay Chase. Chase has earned that. I want them to pay T. He's a valuable piece to what we do. And I want him back. None of that, hey, yeah, we'd love to have him back,

but you know, I don't make that decision. I'm just a quarterback. No, no. So I love that part about him. Oh Joe, a key factor in the Jamar Chase T. Higgins negotiation with Joe Burrow's influence. Beyond the public comments, Burrow applied private pressure, making it clear deals must get done for both,

if since it failed, it could have gotten very, very interesting. Yeah, listen, I'm glad that we just brought that up and I just said it ahead of time. Obviously I wouldn't have said it when all this stuff was going on, but if you understand, I've watched Joe now for a few years, I've seen him up in person,

I've heard the stories about the way he conducts himself and goes on about his business and his approach to the game And how serious he takes it in order to get? In order to continue playing at an elite level We have to have elite talent around you and he understand that especially offensively in order to keep that going And continue to give us a chance offensively to get where we want to go We already know what the end goal is every time you compete and you play on the Sunday and know to get where we want to go. We already know what the end goal is. Every time you compete and you play on a Sunday and know to get there, especially San Francisco,

I need my two. I need my uno, I need my five. And I don't know what we need to do. I don't know what we need to do upstairs, but we need to make it happen. Yeah. That's it. I think sometimes that quarterbacks be like,

I got my money the hell with the rest of this stuff. I ain't got nothing to do with me. And they they take that's a cop out. Oh Joe. Yeah, it's a cop out to say well I don't get to make that decision Yeah, I've heard I've heard that before And you you're here to a lot I mean, you know Joe making 55 means like y'all fear for yourself But he knows a part of him getting that 55 million was was was one in five He knows a part of him getting that 55 million was one in five. Yeah, it is.

You said it right there. Now you come in there playing around and bring somebody else in, they can't do a one in five. He don't understand. You understand. You're gonna be upset. I mean, he's been throwing.

You're gonna be mad. I mean, he's pretty much been throwing a chase for what? Five years? Had him in college for a year? Missed him. And then picked him right back up. Back up, yeah. So with that being said, I'm glad these guys got it done.

Congratulations, guys, well deserved. The Lions have proposed significant change to the NFL playoff seeding that would largely use regular season record as the guiding principle rather than division championships. Under the proposal, the division winner with the conference best record will still receive

the number one overall seed. But after that, teams would be stacked by their records regardless whether they won the division or received wild card births. That approach could significantly impact the NFC North, which fielded three playoff teams last season, the Lions 15- two, Vikings 14 and three, Green Bay 11 and six. The Lions received the number one seed, but the Vikings were seeded number five

and the Packers number seven. Based purely on the record, the Vikings would have been the number three seed, the Packers would have been the number five seed. Ocho, do you understand this is an anomaly season? It doesn't happen like this. We've never seen a team, two teams in the same division have this kind of record.

And what are the chances of it happening again? What do you think? It's not likely. It's not like maybe another decade, 20 years, 30 years. Yeah. And listen, one thing about it, boy, it was great to see it was entertaining. It was a very entertaining for that NFC.

But a chance of it actually happening again, where you need to have this format even be put in place, it's not likely unless you're playing a video game. I hate the fact that we take an anomaly and then try to make wholesale changes. Right. Because you're trying to make a wholesale change. So what's the importance of winning your division?

If there is no value, oh, so I can't help it that you in that division. Right. So if I win my division, now you're gonna punish me because I won my division with 10 wins and you happen to have 13 wins in another division that somebody won 15 games. So why even have divisions? Let's just say, okay, y'all the NFC, y'all the ALC, just play, and then whoever has the best record will stack it.

You don't even need a division. Cause now you're telling me the visions aren't important. So we gonna base it on record. The best overall record, you get to buy. The next best record, you the two seed. Next best record, we don't need division. Stop trying to take isolated incident and make wholesale changes.

Right. Bro, now you making the seed like, well, if we weren't the five seed, we would, bro, you, you, you, you bad, you played bad. It's okay. That's just me, Ocho. Farmer Bucks, offensive coordinator, Byronfwich, is joining Colorado's coaching staff. Coach Prine introduced Lefwich to the team Wednesday. The retired quarterback brings yet more pro experience to the Boulder, Colorado.

The Buffs hired Hall of Fame running back, Marsha Faulkman, February to coach the running backs. Hall of Fame defensive tackle is a senior quality control analyst for the defensive side of the football as well. He worked with the D line. I don't know what happened. I don't I really don't know what happened in Tampa because he went from a guy that had an opportunity to get a head coaching job to being out of the league. Yeah. Well out of the league. Yeah. Out of the league. Listen, I'm not gonna go there. Byron Lefvitch was a good quarterback during this time.

What he was able to do in Tampa with Brady was phenomenal. Obviously being able to coach one of the greatest of all time, if not the greatest. And he called plays. I thought they were the guys that called plays. Yeah, he was. Yeah. But if you notice, every other quarter, every other, every other offensive coordinator that

has ever coached Tom Brady, what has he got in the NFL, Ocho? coaching job Charlie Weiss bill O'Brien Josh McDaniel Three play callers got job. Yeah one guy bill O'Brien never won a Super Bowl with him He lost he was he was he lost This guy won a Super Bowl calling plays. Yeah But you know how they would look at it they would look at it like This guy won a Super Bowl calling plays. Yep. But you know how they would look at it? They would look at it like, Tom Brady. Regardless of who he was calling plays for,

you called him play for Tom Brady. So regardless of what- Was he not the quarterback for Charlie Rice? Was he not the quarterback for Bill O'Brien? Was he not the quarterback for Josh McDaniel? It got so bad, Josh McDaniel got three, got another job. Hold on, he got the job, hold on. Hold on. He got the job. Hold on Oh Joe, he got the job at Denver. We know what he did

We don't need to bring that up got the job at Indy and and said, you know what via facts It's a nine or take the job. I'm gonna stay here and then when got another job, right? But is it there's a difference you understand what you know what? I'm not me. know what? I'm not making this show about this. I mean the writing is on the wall, the proof is in the pudding. You can see it for yourself. This ain't the first time this has happened. It's happened continuously. Over and over and over. I don't need to say it. Open your eyes. Okay. So I'm happy for him. I'm happy for him. I'm happy for him getting the position there. Marshall Falk is there.

Obviously Warren Sapp is there. The environment that Prime is constructing for the players and the young men that are there are obviously preparing them to be able to play at the level, at the next level. If they get a chance or opportunity to make it and have them obviously the two-listen players that played at the highest level, that some were immensely great, like Prime and Warren Sapp and you have some that had good careers, you know, and your Byron Leverages and he can help the quarterbacks

being that not only did he play the position, but he also coached some at the best position and also won a ring if I'm not mistaken Who Byron? Yeah But they lost that year with the Bucks No, he coached what you call me coach Brady. Yeah, they beat they beat new it they beat The chiefs. Yeah, you got a ring. Okay. Yeah, I'm right. I'm right I stand corrected. Okay

No, no, no Look guys want to get they want to get pro ready quarterback coach Pat Shermer is the OC Marshall running back. Yeah Hall of Fame SAP D-line, he can get to the quarterback. Hey, he put together a great staff, guys that, if you have the ability, now, just cause you go to Colorado, if you ain't got the ability to play in the NFL,

I don't give a damn, I don't give a damn who coaching. Right. If you can do it or you can't. Now they might help you with some technique and some little stuff, but you got to have the ability to go get it done. Yes, sir. Yeah? Whose house?

Prime's house. Prime shows off his backyard. Ocho, check this out. Let me see it. Let me see it. What? Oh, that's the one in Texas, huh? Yeah.

Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Let me see it, let me see it, let me see it. What? Oh, that's the one in Texas, huh? Yeah. Oh yeah, oh yeah, oh yeah, oh yeah. I be doing too much. If it wasn't as late as it was, I would call him.

I would call him tomorrow. Yeah. You do it too much. That's nice. Oh, that's nice. And I would tell him, I would go fishing in one of the ponds before you realize I'm gonna have the face pride up on the thing on the bank Cuz he makes you throw the fish back on Joe. I'm a friber. He do you make you put him back? Yeah

Yeah, you make you put him back. He'll let you keep it And that's a good one. That's funny At some point the fish got an understanding what's going on and stop biting on the goddamn line Unfortunately not gonna be able to do that. Especially if you catch them while they bedding because they bedding, that's free food or they try to, sometimes they try to take it and get that out of their bed. Yeah. It's Julie Stewart Banks. I'm doing a new podcast from iHeart Podcasts and the National Hockey League, and I'm paired up with one of my favorite players, the always quotable Nate Thompson. I wore nine NHL sweaters and I have story after story to share and believe it or not,

I have plenty to say and not just about hockey. Believe me, he does. Energy Line with Nate and JSB is the name of the podcast and it's going to be, well, it's going to be quite the ride. We're officially line mates,, we're the energy line. We'll have plenty of folks join us, current players, some of my former teammates, hall of famers and wait to see some of the connections that Julie has. She has quite the Rolodex. Okay, we'll lean into Nate's playing experience and tap into our interests away from hockey

and try to do what energy lines are supposed to do, provide an emotional boost. How do you feel about all that, Nate? I'm vibing, Julie. I'm ready to roll. Listen to Energy Line with Nate and JSB on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

My name is Brendan Patrick Hughes, host of Divine Intervention. This is a story about radical nuns in combat boots and wild-haired priests trading blows with J. Edgar Hoover in a hell-bent effort to sabotage a war. J. Edgar Hoover was furious somebody violated the FBI and he wanted to bring the Catholic left to its knees. The FBI went around to all their neighbors

and said to them, do you think these people are good Americans? It's got heists, tragedy, a trial of the century, and the god-damnedest love story you've ever heard. I picked up the phone and my thought was, this is the most important phone call I'll ever make in my life. I couldn't believe it.

I mean, Brendan, it was divine intervention. Listen to Divine Intervention on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Jalen Milro officially Milro officially runs unofficially 437 in the 40 yard dash at Alabama Hey, I like you. Pick them up, put them down. Don't you? Hey, you putting them up, put them down, huh? One foot in front of the other. I don't care nothing about that.

And for a quarterback, I don't care nothing. I saw the greatest quarterback currently run 5-2-5. Yeah, 5-2-5, it don't mean nothing, but also being able to run 4-3-7, it means something, especially in today's game, with all the dual threat quarterbacks that we do have that are elite, a la Josh Allen, a la Lamar Jackson.

Tell me the fastest quarterback they ever won a Super Bowl. And the fastest quarterback in the Hall of Fame. I'll wait, go ahead. No, no, I mean, you're right about that. You're right about that. But I'm just telling you, I'm giving you a different perspective. I'm giving you a different perspective

on how it's helped immensely being able to do two things and just not be one dimensional. It's okay to be able to have a quarterback that can use his legs. Look at the growth of Lamar Jackson. Look where he is now. Look how far he's come. It ain't even about running no more.

I'm running only if I have to because I've become now I'm a passer, I'm a passer with the ball. You know, so, so brother Millrow being able to run that fast is all, it is great. It's a good thing. But had you seen what he could do with his arm. Man. Not nearly consistent enough. I knew you, I knew you. Listen, at some point, at some point you will be. Now you only get this to you.

I just want you to tell me who the fastest guy to ever win the Super Bowl and the fastest guy in the Hall of Fame. That's all I'm waiting for. There's a lot of fast ones in the Hall of Fame. You fast. Who? You and them.

No, at quarterback. Quarterback? Mm-hmm. Let me think, hold on. Johnny United's in the Hall of Fame, ain't he? He is. Yeah, Johnny ran 4-4. In the 20.

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Give us, come on, give us our graphics. We just got home. I done took a five hour nap. I got energy and you leaving. Sheldon Pope said, oh you enjoy playing Risha Roulette. I did. I did. See, see, see, see, see. I did. It's a good game. I did. I did. I did. It's a good game. It's a good game.

I can see how that game can get your ass in trouble. Yeah. Especially you, hey, a group of y'all around, you know, hey, Ocho, y'all on your, you go, you and your buddies, and y'all and women in Vegas, or y'all in Cancun or Jamaica. Yeah, some freaky ish about to happen. Darkborn said, uh, got a question for Ocho. In his opinion,

who was better being a receiver duo, Jamar and T or him and TJ? Oh, that's a good one. That's a good one. And obviously we didn't throw the ball. Is it? Yeah, it's a good one. We didn't good one. And obviously we didn't throw the ball. Is it? Yeah, it's a good one. We didn't throw the ball. Yeah, I did throw the ball. Not like that. Man, stop playing. Now, you know we ain't throw the ball like that, man. You see what the boys doing today? They run a hundred plays and 98 of them throwing. You know? But listen, I love myself and TJ, man. I love us to death. You supposed to.

Yeah, as much as I love Jamar and T and praise them, like I'm a preacher, I will always take me and TJ over there no matter what. And that's what all the respect of what them boys doing and are gonna continue to do with that franchise. But it'll always be me and TJ, boy. Ain't nothing like that. Ain't nothing like it.

And people wouldn't understand it, especially the younger generation, unless you were there. You had to be there and would have had to see it live and in person to understand. Dr. Frank L. Bellaman said, speak of church, the way you were citing Job on first take was awesome. You sure you don't want to be a preacher? The pulpit would be rocking. Ocho can be your deacon. Yeah, yeah. Hey, hey, hey, hey. I had to put me in the pulpit now.

Yeah. Yeah, I, when I was a little boy, the pastor of the church told my grandmother, say, Mary, that boy has a way with words. Um, they say a lot of people can talk, Mary. He said, but very few people can speak. That boy can speak. And, uh, you know, I'm saying, hold your, I'm a kid.

I probably was like 10, 11, but to like, like, there's nothing like hearing a great speaker to hear, to go back and listen to Dr. King just hear him speak, to hear Churchill, to hear him speak, to hear JFK and to hear him speak and Tekashi Coates to hear him speak. There's some people that have a voice and cause in order to be a great orator, you must have a cadence. There's a sequence that your voice can elevate and rise. I mean, rise and then fall.

If you hear Dr. King, just listen for the cadence in which he speaks. That's everything. You know who else you can hear it in? Recently. Who that? In that cadence, Obama. Yeah.

If you listen to Obama, you can hear that cadence as well with him when he goes high and goes low. And he's able to, the ability to command the ear Mm-hmm. He got it. It's a gift. Yeah, it's a gift Malcolm X Yeah I know rush 75 no jive. I'm alive On no rush 75 no jive. I'm alive

later than five J 213 hey uncle no Joe who is one person dead or alive you want to sit down and have a conversation with excluding family Oh Frank Sinatra Frank Sinatra, I mean if you know me and my love for for for Music the arts and dance and theater and all the arts, and dance, and theater, and all the things that I like, Sinatra. For what he stood for, you know, in a time when you really shouldn't be standing for it, if you know what I mean, you know?

Yeah. And man, the opportunities that he gave people of color during his time, man, Sinatra, I would love and still to this day I have an appreciation for him his music and everything he's done. Not only as an artist but away from you know music as well. Some of the things he fought for and the opportunities he gave others. Refusing to play in certain places unless you know who was also afforded the same opportunities in those rooms. Oh man, Sinatra. Now there's so many other great ones. I'm just telling you about mine, you know.

Yeah, yeah. I mean for me, probably Dr. King, Malcolm X. I've always been drawn to people that could to people that could that could speak great orators and Prince Prince Prince yeah it's breezy who cares one two if Joe gonna get hurt, cut the bingo's had to get P.E. teachers and Jim Rose for the old line and the chief. Winnie, who we got for our old line again? P.E. teachers and Jim Rose. Ugadoncho, do the Broncos have the most stacked roster in the AFC West now after free agency Who do you think the number is going to want at pick 20? Well, you got your quarterback. Yeah

They want they're going receiver You think so? Absolutely Absolutely. Okay. Okay. Absolutely They don't they don't get them playing make off that board man. I can tell you that. Cause I like Sutton. Yeah I like Sutton too. I like Sutton but they need another. Maybe get one of them tight ends.

Yeah. Got it? I mean, uh, Omarion Hampton running back North Carolina and what Mark draft say cuz they let Javante Davis go Williams Javante Williams. Yeah Another or a Carolina kid Brody Burton I'm saying this to old Joe noicking, no sucking toes, no farting around me. It's Blake of the five. Jerediah Williams, hey, Ocho, my birthday was yesterday. I'm 45, but I don't look a day over 38.

Jerediah, thank you. Happy birthday, bro. Happy birthday, bro. Happy birthday. But we in the same boat too. So I don't look at day over 25. And people tell me that all the time in person. Boy, you look so young, boy.

What's your skincare routine? So I told him I ain't really got none. I just eat right. I don't know what he said. Save for tomorrow. Fran Brown makes his players say 40% of... Okay. I was gonna say say what is this?

Okay, okay. Oh, yes, I didn't see they say safe for tomorrow Guys that concludes this at a Oh Joe. I've been a long day for you boy. Yeah, cuz I was in so I was in Savannah We just got back watch the game. I'm up on the plane again tomorrow morning, car picking me up at 5.30. Where you going? I'm headed to Charleston. Okay, okay. What you doing?

You got liquor signing? Yeah, I'll get back tomorrow night and I'll be better, because I ain't got anything to do Friday. So, your boy be ready to go, but I got to get at least three hours of sleep. Yeah, well listen, you, now don't be surprised if I pop up on you with them signers, man.

And I'll look. I was in Miami, you ain't pop up on nothing. Well, I wasn't here, I wasn't here then. I'm just saying, I'm just saying, you know, on your little tour, if I pop up, you know, in a whole La Porte outfit, like a costume. Hey, I'm coming to Charleston hoping they got some good breakfast. Hey somebody leave me something in the chat tell me in

Charleston where they got a good breakfast because I want some good old southern style grits I want some bacon, I want bacon crispy scrambled eggs you know hey just like that I mean I mean I like pancakes but I ain't gotta have them right grits eggs sausage or bacon. Let your boy know where I need to go. Mm-hmm. McDonald's? Ain't got no damn grits in no McDonald's.

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