Club Shay Shay - Nightcap - Hour 1: Lakers lose at the buzzer to the Bulls, Mark Cuban responds to fans, Justin Jefferson riding an ATV goes viral!

Episode Date: March 28, 2025

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson react to Lakers losing at the buzzer to the Bulls, Mark Cuban responds to fans on Luka trade, & Justin Jefferson goes viral for riding an ATV with no helmet! They also talk about how Brock Purdy can’t see over the line, Russel Wilson and the Giants & much more!08:52 - Lakers vs. Bulls26:21 - Mark Cuban responds to blame for Luka trade32:18 - James Harden on his career38:10 - Brock Purdy can’t see his targets 40% of the time41:00 - Nepotism48:30 - Russell Wilson’s Giants Press Conference55:45 - Justin Jefferson on ATV(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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LeBron gamble and he's been gambling all night And he's been getting away with it because they missed Yeah that situation you don't gamble. The only thing that could hurt you is a three. He gave up a three Now you now you're up to Okay, he gave a lazy pass to officer Reeves now you're down One with six seconds officer Reeves makes a fanst down. One with six seconds. Officer Reeves makes a fantastic play and guess what? Josh Gidey from half court knocks the bomb. This one's on LeBron. Yeah. This one's on LeBron. He has

not played well. Now he got the tip in last night and it bailed him out because he didn't play well against the Magic. He over three from the three last night or three from the three tonight Or seven from the three he was nine of 20. No, he was eight of 20 from the floor Go check what he was last night like 414. This won't get it done This was a game. They had the game Ocho. Yeah, well seconds you're up five Why would you gamble in that situation? Why? And then why would you give a lazy pass in that situation? Right. Up on your own goal? Come on, man. I just don't get it. I don't get it. I don't know what's going on,

but he has not played well the last three games, the tip in not withstanding, but you go back and look at it, it is what it is. I'm not saying anything that anybody that have watched the Lakers over the last three games is not thinking, or not thinking, but unfortunately a lot of them don't have microphones so they can't see it. But what I'm saying is what you've been thinking. This one is on LeBron.

44 F-ing points in the fourth quarter. Normally Ocho is the third quarter. Quarter. Yeah. Tonight they held the Bulls to 17 points in the third quarter. Only to give up 44 in the fourth. I'm trying to look at Josh Giddy and Lepore and work to guarding LeBron

Josh Giddy again had another triple double the other time they played him. He almost had a quadruple double He was two steals away from a quad double Tonight he had a triple double any guarded run work to guard LeBron and LeBron just was perfectly content to stand his ass in the corner. Yeah. Okay, Luca, you do it. Okay, Austin Reaves, you do it. Yeah.

That's not good enough. But listen, that's the point of having the supporting cast. That's the point of having the supporting cast to bail you out of situations like this. When you have a bad play. They've been bailing him out the last three games. But that's only three games, man. That's only three games.

Think about what you think. You don't realize he's been out for two weeks. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, I understand. Okay. But he's been out for two weeks also coming back on for injury.

So we understand and maybe he's not. He's in the game, we're not doing that. We're not doing that. Okay, okay, okay. He's on the court, I see 23 with James on the back. If he's not healthy enough, sit down. What we're not going to do is make excuses. We don't do that here.

Right. All right. Well, listen, he hasn't played well the past three games. He hasn't. They had it in the game. They had it in the bag tonight. Obviously, the game of basketball being a game of runs. It was up and down. I thought they had the game sealed. I'm even gonna lie to you. I thought they had a seal towards the end. It was up five with 12 seconds. Exactly.

But I'm just trying to figure why would LeBron in that situation gamble? Why would he gamble and leave a three-point shot? I mean he left the guy open. That's a shooter round three. Winnable was wide open, why in that situation? That's what I don't get. LeBron has too much basketball IQ to know in that situation. It's kind of like a corner. Why would you gamble in a situation like that? When you're up four, why would you try to take the slant away?

And the dude runs the slow go. In this situation, Brian, you don't need to gamble. Make him run time. If the guy hit a tough shot, so be it. But you can't give them a wide open three. You can't be lazy on a bounce pass under your own goal. Get it, get it. Fire the back to Kobe White.

He nails a three. What was a five point lead with 12 seconds? You find yourself down one with six seconds. Yeah. Every starter for the Laker was minus. Had a negative plus minus. Finis-Smith minus ten. LeBron minus ten. Jackson Hayes minus nine. Luca minus one. Reeves minus ten. Everybody that came off the bench that played four guys was plus plus nine Vanderbilt plus 13 Vincent plus three Godwin plus five connect even though he didn't score a point

another thing guys You turned the ball over it's Phoenix Smith. I know you upset because Who caught you weren't to caught you with an elbow? Yeah, but if they didn't call it you can't push the man in the back They won't call the fire every time Godwin You can't shove the guy even though he shoved you they didn't call the fire you shove him in the open court They don't call it every time I think yeah, yeah. Yeah. I mean ain't nobody gonna fight. Why you shoving?

Y'all not go square up. All you're doing is giving the ball right back to him after they got a field goal. Right? I Mean that was that I Been around JJ a little bit at ESPN, but I know he losing his mind. Oh, yeah Wait, you might be losing you might lose your mind a little bit more than JJ Promise you I'm not because it's the mistakes like that But see he's not gonna tell LeBron what he needs to tell LeBron in that situation LeBron You can't do that. You can't gamble and then turn the ball over Mm-hmm, and then nobody picked up get it

So you're gonna let him get so you're gonna let the guy how many times Oh Joe Do you think guys practice half court shots? Right? You know, I don't think they they don't practice no damn half court shots. They play around doing them Yeah, that's what I'm saying. They're I Can't promise you if Steph Curry is shooting the ball from the tunnel Luca if Luca if all these guys That could potentially take a shot at the end of the game

these guys that could potentially take a shot at the end of the game is take as practice is doing the horse around with that shot yeah that's not as that's not as good because how many times have we seen them make that shot this year so ain't nobody gonna make the guy pick the guy ball up you gonna wait till we get the half court and then try to jump it's too late he's already gotten to a shooting motion yeah and listen that game good. I know you're upset about your Lakers losing, but that game was a roller coaster towards the end. The Lakers had it. They were up five. It was up 18. You give up 44 points in the fourth quarter? 44. Yeah. I mean, defense has been their issue. That's been their Achilles heel the past three games.

Not only defense, but getting, being transitioned, being lazy, you know, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not new. I'm not Doris Burke or George Sadano, you know, to be sitting here talking, talking like I know, I know the game of basketball like that. But I got 20-20 vision, I can see. How many threes they give up in the fourth quarter, Ash? They had to give up like seven threes. And a lot of them was uncontested.

Not closing out. Hey, Josh, Josh Giddy. Josh Giddy. Nice, bro. They traded Josh Giddy for Alex Caruso. Oh. Hey, everybody's nice against the Lakers. Bulls were 11 for 14 from three in the fourth quarter. Listen, what are the chances? I'm going to say it like that.

What are the chances to go 11 for 14 in the quarter that where it matters most? A lot of teams can go 11 for 14. If you let them shoot, shoot around threes where they just go and get into their shooting motion. Where it's not contested? Yes. Oh.

That's why I said you don't realize how skilled these guys are. Go sit around the game and watch them shoot the ball. And then you're like, damn. You're more surprised that they miss than when they make it. Make it, right. Because you see them guys, and I'm talking about they hitting seven, eight, nine, ten shots in a row from the three. I mean, what do you expect to happen?

You turn the ball over, you get lazy, you gamble, you take unnecessary risk that you don't even need to take that risk. I don't even know why Brown would even put himself in that situation. Right. And then, you know, they put the ball to Luke Hand, three shy of the row, he missed a shot. Yeah. Yeah. Mr. Shot in the fourth when they could have gotten some separation. And then they come down and just, hey, just like all of a sudden, like, okay, we got the

game one and just stop playing. They probably, they probably thought they had it one. If you look at everybody body language, we think we got the game one. I mean, but you know, you gonna have games like this. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, not like this. You don't think so? Not like this, no.

When LeBron James and Luka Dantzic on the court, you should not have too high IQ basketball players like that. LeBron knows better Why would you gamble? That's what I mean I just I hope a reporter asked him LeBron in that situation that you gave up the three ball in the corner to Williams Why would you gamble on that situation? See do your own show if I get beat doing my job, I was doing my job. You can live with that. I'm not gonna get beat doing someone else's job because everybody's looking at you.

Now, ain't nobody gonna say it, but everybody's like, damn, bruh, had that been somebody else, you like, huh? Stop, look, at some time, and got to stop his damn complaining, bro. It's annoying as F. Hold to the red. Every time, Luca, every time you're not getting filed. Right. You're not.

And you got to get back. Everybody, LeBron, you got to get back. They sitting there talking about he filed me. Well, they're not going to blow the whistle once the guy got the ball and heading up the court yeah now they're playing five on four they're playing five on four they get a three in transition or they get an easy basket come on guys yeah Yeah. I don't know.

I think you're gonna get games like this. You say it shouldn't happen with two players on the court, like LeBron and Luca. Obviously mistakes happen. The game of basketball is, I don't know, you can't really compare it to football in a sense Maybe fatigue you say don't make no excuses. I'm not gonna make no excuses But if you have a game like this you have players like LeBron and Luca playing this bad on a road game a stretch of road games With a lack of effort on defense, it can be the transition

with a lack of effort on defense, and getting beaten transition. It's gotta be something wrong. I'm not gonna make no excuses, but it has to be something wrong. Ocho, what good if you complain it, and hey, they run a pick, and you jump it up and down. I'm talking about, he picked me ref, he picked me ref, and Chase got the ball running down the field. He ain't finna throw the flag now. If he didn't throw the ball,'t finna throw the flag now. If he didn't throw the ball, if he didn't throw the flag at the point of contact,

he's not finna throw it once the guy got the ball and run it down the damn field. Uh-huh, but you gotta understand, this is something Lucas been doing since he was in Dallas. It's a yes. Yes. It's a nothing new. But he doesn't, at some point in time, he's gonna have to realize, bro,

you're putting our team at a disadvantage because while you're standing there complaining or you're sitting on the floor There are five or four transition against addition, right? Now we don't want to give a play up, but now we're giving up now We're giving up transition guys are just walking into a wide open three. Mm-hmm Understandable this it has not happened Often But it's happened.

This one's on LeBron. And he, knowing him, he's going to say it. That's on me. I gambled, gave up a three. I got lazy with a pass, gave up another three. And he should have met, he should have met before Josh Gidey. You got to make him pick the ball up. You gotta make it, you don't let him get somebody go straight.

Once he gets into a shooting motion, it's over. Yeah. They got Kobe White out there looking like Kobe Bryant. For the second game in a row against the Lakers. Hell, he played great against the Nuggets too the other night. He was sensational against the Nuggets. But LeBron, I mean LeBron had more field goal attempts than points. Last night he was 414.

He had 14 points. The other night against, uh, uh, who did he play? Orlando. Did he play Orlando? Same thing. Yeah. Um, this is embarrassing loss. This is a, this is a... No, seriously. This reminds you of the Orlando Magic loss. They had Orlando beat the whole game. They horse jived around and then they let Franz Wagner hit a three at the end of the game. Point one second on the clock, boom, you lose.

Game over. Same thing. Now, you could have been like maybe in the third spot, you're gonna be kicking yourself in the ass when you find yourself in the sixth, you mess around and slide all the way to the seven and you're in the play-in and You should be getting rest and now you're one way one one or two losses away from being on the playoffs. Yeah I'm down. I don't think that's gonna happen Yeah, that's not gonna happen

Yeah, I mean you got I mean, Austin Reese was 10 of 17. You got Jackson Hayes with nine of 11. Vanderbilt was three or four. Gabe Vinson was three or six. Godwin was three or four. The bitch, look, the bitch came in and gave you point at 16, 23 points. 23!

Phoenix Smith didn't give you much. He gave you three. LeBron assisted the ball well. 23! Phoenix Smith didn't give you much, he gave you three. LeBron assisted the ball well. He had four turnovers, that last turnover really hurt. You gave up a three. Well, I mean, that last sequence, that last 12 seconds, that's on LeBron. It was bad.

Listen, as bad as it was for the Lakers, if you're a fan of the game of basketball, it was a thing to see. Oh, it was a great game. I mean, if you like basketball, Ocho. Yeah, it was a thing to see. Now, stuff like that is where they get you coming back to watch more. Even though the ending won't be as exciting as that was, that was nice.

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Bocho, it's been nearly two months since Luca was traded from the Mavs to the Lakers. Despite stating that he had nothing to do with the trade, former Mavericks owner Mark Cuban has received flak from fans. Cuban responded to a Facebook post criticizing him and revealed new details about the Mavs. I made money two out of 23 years when I was the majority owner. Lost hundreds of millions of dollars. I fully expected to run basketball. The NBA wouldn't let me put it in the contract.

They took me out of it. I thought the Addisons would stick to their word because they didn't know the first thing about running a team. Someone obviously changed their minds. Oh Joe. Yeah. Guess what? It's kind of like me and Shayshae Media. I don't have to bring anything by anybody. Right. You made the call. He's not the majority owner anymore. Someone else is. They don't have to, he said he thought he was running basketball operations.

Okay. When I pay, when somebody else is the majority owner. Oh no. They make a decision. I changed my mind. You're not running basketball operations anymore. Right. Ain't nothing you can do.

And be it, look, at some point in time, being mad ain't gonna change nothing. No, absolutely not. The trade is over. It's over. You have to get over it. You have to get over it. I don't know, it doesn't make any sense to be mad at anybody at this point in time. You can still vent about Nico Harrison saying he shouldn't have happened it, but y'all think

Nico would have made this trade without the owners blessings Yeah, absolutely not Do y'all understand how this works? It's just like the first round draft pick or you paying somebody you think Mike Brown did not sign off on giving Chase this money You don't think Mike Brown signed off and giving Joe burrow this money When it goes to that level or that they going to the top of the flagpole. Not the middle. This is not a gym. This is not a football operations. This is Mike Brown saying, okay. Yeah. I mean, listen, there's a pecking order and everything, huh? Yes. And everything. Before the decisions are made, unless you're the top dog and the one who cuts the checks and your

name is on the check. There's always a pecking order and everything goes as follows before decisions are made, especially in appointments like that. Yes. But I mean, it's, look, Cuban has made it, but Cuban said he said he would have never done the deal. He also said that, look, and go back and listen

to the interview, what he was talking, I sat down with him this summer, and he's saying, look, he's gonna look to move the team because his kids, he don't want them. That was his goal, that was what he wanted. He don't want his kids to be under that kind of pressure. And he said, if you notice, venture capitalists, big business that have other things, they can build casinos and they can increase

other streams of revenue. Revenue, yeah. And I've lost money too. I've made money two of the 23 years in which I've owned the team. Lost hundreds of millions. Yeah. It's not how much you make.

How much you can keep. It's when they say I'm coming to. Oh, in this situation where he's losing money. They're like, but you're a billionaire. What billionaire you know like losing money? They're trying to make it. Yeah. They try to lose it.

Mm hmm. So I don't, I don't, I don't get why they upset a Cuban. He's not the majority owner. I don't know why you're mad at Nico because he had the owner's Dumont. I think that's his, he's the son-in-law of the Adelson's family. The wife, Sheldon, rest just so Mr. Adelson, he died, left it to his wife. I think Dumont is the son-in-law and he's running it. But they purchased the majority of share from Cuban. Right.

This deal with Luca. You think if somebody moves, I'm trying to think who? Yonis. You think they can move Yonis without their owner's blessing? You think they can move Ant Yanis without the owner's blessing? You think they can move Ant-Man without the owner's blessing? They traded the top five player in the NBA. And y'all think... And then Telly no. Why would he? He had no idea. Most of the time players of that magnitude, if I'm not mistaken, no management and then those that sit in the higher seats and high positions,

they let you know. Maybe not publicly, but behind closed doors. Listen, we thinking of moving you on, or they let your agent know. We thinking of moving on without you. Yes. We thinking about going in a different direction. You're right.

But why would- I was all the time, but this is one of the few times where out of the blue blue it even surprised him Hell, let's surprise me look There could have been that many people that have that known because it didn't get out You're not gonna tell five six seven eight people something it did not get out get out Yeah, especially like that though. Something like that, of that magnitude.

You know folk can't hold no water, man. No, of course not. Yeah, I mean at the end of the day, whoever owns the majority. Right. The controlling interest. Yeah, I mean at the end of the day, um, whoever owns the majority, right, but the controlling interest. Mm hmm. Uh, so that's just like, well, what's going to, I mean, this is one thing.

It's like the Cowboys. Everybody knows, don't nobody blame anybody else for anything but Jerry because Jerry controls everything. One person. For anything but Jerry because Jerry controls everything one person James James Harden spoke to overtime about his career and had this to say let's take a listen. Oh Joe. Yes, sir You're 35 years old, but you're still bawling out. What is your secret to longevity work? I don't feel like I get enough credit for the work that I put in You know people want to talk about everything else that they honestly do not know about, but in honesty, the work is being put in.

And if the work isn't being put in, then these opportunities won't be happening for me. I really love the game of basketball. It's gotten me to a point to where I am today. That's priority number one. And now I'm getting older, so the proper eating and sleeping and the recovery aspect is very, very important, which I've been on top of. Like anything in life, you put the work in

and the results is bound to happen. And sometimes you put the work in and I have bad games, but more times than not, good things are gonna happen. Oh Joe, I tell people this all the time. Yes sir. People say, well Shannon, hard work. I say no. I said hard work doesn't guarantee you anything.

I say, well without it. You don't have a chance No at all and and and he mentioned it as he's got older. He had to work harder He had to change some things he changed his eating habits Yeah, it's probably doesn't go out as much or and if he does go out. He doesn't stay out as long Things have to change you You're not the same as we start to age. You might think it, but the body knows it. You can't see it. You know, especially elite athletes like the James Harden. You don't see it in your game. You never see it in the game. You think everything

is still the same. But everything changes as you get older. I'm sure his numbers don't look the same as they once did when he was in his prime. No, because he doesn't have the ball like he once did. He's not reliant because you gotta realize when he went to Jersey, Brooklyn, he got KD and Kyrie.

Oh, that's too much. Okay, he goes to Philly and he has Dwayne B. So now he has Kawhi, he has PG. Now he has Kawhi and Norman Powell. So he's not asked to do what he once did, where he was the entirety of the show in Houston. He's 11-time All-Star, three-time scoring champ, two-time assist champ, seven-time All-MBA. He was an All-Rookie selection.

He was a 2011-2012 sixth man of the year, a 2017-18 MVP, and a member of the 75th anniversary team. Yeah. Impeccable resume. I have a question. Go ahead. I have a question. Despite James Harden, based on the resume and all the accolades that you just named,

again, I think to me, one of the greatest scores of all time as well. Yeah, he is. Hall of Famer. Yeah. All right. Regardless of having the rings. Yeah, he's an all-time great. Okay.

That's why he's a member. He's not a member of the 75th anniversary team. He's a member of having the rings. Yeah, he's an all-time great. Okay, okay. That's why he's a member. He's not a member of the 75th anniversary team for no reason. I mean, you look at the numbers, what he's put up. He's a scoring champion, he's an all-LMBA selection, he's an all-star, two-time assist champ.

Yeah, he's very deserving. He's one of the top 75 players, regardless if he has a championship. Okay. But I in this situation you know look people try to say it's just rings it's not just rings because if it was just rings the Celtics would be littered with gold players right because they have players that have more rings than anybody Russell has more than anybody. They have another three guys that have 10 rings. Several other guys that have eight or nine rings. Nobody ever brings those guys up into the GOAT conversation because

there's other things also. All NBA selections, all star selections, uh, uh, uh, MVPs, rings. Yes. When it comes to, when you, because Ocho, as you go up higher now, it's, it's, it's more things that we got to pick from. Right. So now as we go up, it's like, damn. Okay.

Rings. Okay. We even all NBA selections. We even all stars. We even defensive player of the year. Things like that. Assist, scoring scoring all of that factors in so it's not just one thing It's not just rings if you just want to make it about that Well, it's Russell Russell has more rings just as many MVPs, but not

Kareem has six regular season MVPs and people don't put him in the goal I think he's the problem the guy that gets undervalued but all beings get undervalued If you go back and look at wilt has more 50-point games in the next six guys combined Damn, yes That's not me will go record ain't nobody go ever break. They talking about what records is unbreakable? Wilps. Ain't nobody gonna average 50 and 25 for a seasonal show. Ain't nobody that ain't happening.

He averaged 27 rebounds for an entire season. He was played 48.2 minutes for an entire season. So he played all the entirety of the game. Something's not gonna be broken. But James Hartley, he's a great player. He's a great player. He's a great player. He's a great player.

He's a great player. He's a great player. He's a great player. He's a great player. He's a great player. He's a great player. He's a great player. He's a great player.

He's a great player. He's a great player. He's a great player. He's a great player. He's a great player. played 48.2 minutes for an entire season. So he played all the entirety of the game. Some things are not gonna be broken. But James Harden, I don't think he gets enough credit because we look at his body and it's not, he's not sculpted, he don't got shoulders like Dwight. He ain't aesthetically like LeBron. But for him to play at the level that he's playing at for an extended period of time,

he has to be doing something. Consistently at that. Consistently. It's all. What we got, Brock Purdy says he's about 40% of the time he's not able to see his intended target on throws downfield due to the size of the alignment in front of him. He talked about how important it is knowing coverage, his scheme and knowing where his receivers are supposed to be. How common is this? Is this typical for quarterbacks who aren't very tall?

Yeah. Yeah. That happens all the time. Huh? All the time. Drew Brees. Yeah. Russell Wilson. Russell Wilson. You have to throw between the time. Huh? All the time. Drew Brees. Yeah, Russell Wilson. Russell Wilson. You have to throw between the linemen. You have to try and throw, that's what they call it, throwing lanes. Yeah, and you have to anticipate as well.

Yes. I mean, it's been, remember Doug Flutie, hell, Doug Flutie plays. Yes. What you think Kyle O'Berry sees? Man, what? That's, I couldn't think of it. Yes. What you think Kyler Murray sees? I'm kidding. Man, what? That's, I couldn't think of it.

Kyler Murray. Hell, half the time, he probably looking at a liming ass. Well, who else is short, huh? Who else? I know everybody involved, man. Kyler, Drew was short, Baker Mayfield is short. Short. Russell Wilson.

Yeah, I said Russ. Trying to think who else. Tua. Oh yeah, Tua's not that tall. Bryce Young. Okay, Bryce is short, yeah, Bryce is in that boat too. But you know what, Ocho? I'm saying that up, I got 50 million.

Yeah, I wouldn't have said it before. Thanks man, nothing. But anyway, listen, the fact that he did say it, he's still in a good position anyway, because he's already put in a small step besides the work, well, he gonna get his money anyway, regardless, but the fact that you've been able to do what you've done, even though you couldn't see 40% of the time,

I mean, it can work in your favor too. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, look, Mike Vick wasn't the tallest, Johnny Mabzel wasn't tall. No, not at all, not at all. How tall is Hertz? It's not like Hertz, not at all. Not at all. How tall is Hurts? It's not like Hurts 6'5". He probably average height, probably 6'1".

Yeah. Jayden got a little high on him though. How tall is that, Jayden Daniels? Jayden tall, he about 6'3". Yeah, but Ocho, but he's 6'1", his offensive line is 6'6". He see it over. Yeah, you right. But you know, once you drop back,

you think most of the- Everybody's gonna beat Josh Allen. Yeah. Everybody's gonna beat him. You gotta think, also in today's game, especially with the offense that we're seeing now, most of the time, quarterback's in the gun. Yeah, for sure.

Most of the time, quarterback's in the gun. So you're already at an advantage if you are a short quarterback anyway. Then that all comes down to you processing and having anticipatory skills and when to get the ball out and hoping your receivers get open. On your Packer Safety, Xavier McKinney

started this course today when he tweeted, nepotism is always okay and justified unless it's a black man doing it. Then it's a problem. You mofo's are corrupt and brainwashed. And for all you black folks in the media, stop. We can't say that word, Ocho, but it's C-O-O-N-I-N-G because they'll flag us.

So they say that's a racial slur now. So I've had to learn the hard way Right, right, right, but y'all know it's the trash panda He said y'all stop trash pandering And being puppets you ain't tired yet. Damn. Oh Joe you agree Yeah, come on. We talked about this before we thought about before it's always it's always a problem It's always a problem when we do it when we put when we put those that are that are part of our family treating positions and we're in a position of power and we allow them to

Yeah, yeah, I mean it happens all the time it happens all the time with Our brethren many time we do it it's always an issue and it brought to the forefront on why we do it because- Andy Reid put his sons on the coaching staff, Bill Belichick put his sons on the coaching staff. Yeah. Ain't no problem. This has been going on for a very long time.

It happens all the time. Not in just sports, but in the corporate world as well. It happens all the time. Hell yes. But we're the only ones that were not supposed to do it. Oh yeah yeah it's frowned upon it's frowned upon it is it is and listen we just call a spade a spade. A lot of times we be doing it though they don't they don't really talk about no nepotism. They're like hey I'll get in position I'm A.

And we see it all the time. People getting positioned, they can hire their homeboys all the time. Qualifications don't matter, but we understand, Ocho. We're not allowed that liberty. We don't get that freedom. We can't be putting no homeboys in there that ain't qualified. Now, if my homeboy's qualified, we can do it in there.

Oh, the qualifications. Hey, you gotta be careful. You can't just hire your homeboys now. And then, you know, homeboys get comfortable. Think they can get away with doing certain things. Absolutely. Not putting you to work because you're cool. Nah, it ain't about being cool, nah.

Nah, we still got work to do. I got a business to run, whatever it may be. We ain't about being cool, nah. Nah, we still got work to do. Whatever it may be. We still got work to do, nah. Man, the Washington Wizards need they butt kick. Indiana scored 162 points. In real life? Or video game? Yeah, against the Wizards.

That's embarrassing. 162, now there was once upon a time in the 80s, Ocho, it was customary. You see 150, 140 games. I mean, I think the NBA record, somebody scored, I think 183 to 181 was the final in triple overtime. But- Listen, this was a real game,

and we not talk about the All-Star break. No, this was real game, and we not talk about the All-Star break. No, this was a real game. We not talk about the All-Star game. A real game, you let somebody score 162? 162 to 109. I bet they must've shot, they must've shot threes the whole game. Nah, Washington was terrible the whole game.

Ha ha ha. Uh, let's see, the words are out. For the most points in NBA franchise history and the most allowed, they had nine players in double figures. The Pacers did. Let's see, pull up the box score right quick so we can get this.

Oh, and they did this on the road. They weren't even home. And no player played more than 25 minutes. That's nasty. Halliburton had 29 in 25 minutes. Miles Turner had 17 in 21 minutes. Neesmith had 11 in 19. Siakam had 13 in 23.

And then you just, guys just went to work. That's crazy. That's embarrassing. Somebody didn't care. There was 27 coachos. They shot 64% from the floor 57% from the three they were 27 or 47 17 or 19 from the floor. I mean from the free throw line

But yeah, McKinney's right. Yeah Jordan black that I Mean I wish my kids wanted to do something in here that could, like, look, you start, you know, you ain't got to, you ain't got to, you know, send the resume in, because you know the CEO. Tell them who your reference. You think the CEO. But listen, hey listen, when your kids come in, are they gonna wanna do the work? That's what I'm saying.

Understand how serious you are about club shake shape, about nightcap. And understand, hey, this train gotta keep rolling now. Yeah, I think you gotta be weary. You gotta be weary sometimes, your kids want things handed to them. They don't want that. They want things handed to them.

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I watch Fox. I pay attention to Newsmax, One American News. I don't turn my back to the critics, but there is a sort of California derangement syndrome out there that is just sort of ridiculous. There's notion that this is the only state that has challenges. It's just comedic, but it's damaging. We record-breaking tourism last year. We have a surplus again. We have a state with population growing again. You wouldn't know that. That's not prevalent. It's not part of the discussion. It's been engulfed by the fires. It's been engulfed in the fires. It's, you know, it's a failed state, you know, California. But for me, you know, it's a pride for me, again, as a guy who lives here, who cares

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quarterback. And his presser, Ocho, he said, yeah, I expect to be the starter to come in here and be ready to rock and roll every day. I think this team is really looking for somebody to lead them every way. Is this a match made in heaven for the Giants, Ocho? I mean, listen, everywhere. Remember now, Ocho, before you go. Come on.

They signed, they gave Jamus two years, eight million. Russ basically is a one-year deal for 10 and a half billion. That's guaranteed. He can make up to 21 million, but he got to win like what? He gets X amount of dollars per win or something like that. Right. But anyway, do you see them taking a quarterback? With the third one, I think the third pick you know, they third word if you know, listen I

Listen, I I don't I don't I don't care if they had 33rd. Go ahead. Oh, I don't care Listen, I don't hear it. I don't care if they had 37 quarterbacks on this tonight on a roster right now They taking a quarterback come draft time because there's still no quarterback of the future. Now, whoever they draft at quarterback, they have somebody they can learn from and learn behind for a year before they put into that offense. And depending on how the play from whoever start,

whether it's DeVito, whether it's James Winston, whether it's Wesley Wilson. Man, DeVito, stop. DeVito ain't starting. You know damn well DeVito is starting. Stop putting that out there. I'm just calling the names of the people on the roster, baby. Let me get my point across.

But either way, it could be Shadura, it could be Cam Ward. They might even surprise us and pick somebody else. You never know. You know how the draft works. And sometimes when it comes to their decision making. But either way, I think Russell Wilson probably gonna be the starter. Everywhere he goes, he's the ultimate,

not only competitor, but his approach to the game and willingness to learn the offense and then obviously be a team player and all that good stuff. He says all the right stuff. So there's a reason why the Giants wanted to extend that grace to him. Allow him another year.

And I'm excited. I mean, Russell Wilson, Malik neighbors, they still need to do something with the F in offensive line and get a another, no disrespect to brother, brother Slayton. Very nice receiver. You got Malik neighbors, but you still need another playmaker. The Giants still need- But I think they brought, didn't they bring Slayton back? Isn't he back? Yeah, he back. That's what I just said. They still need another playmaker. The Giants still need- But I think they brought, didn't they bring Slayton back? Didn't he back? Yeah, he back, that's what I just said.

They still need another playmaker. They just played Slay, but they still need another playmaker outside of them. You know, to go with Malik neighbors and then Slayton. That officer line boy is abysmal. It's abysmal. Cause so you're gonna have Russell running for his life. Yeah. Outside of that, there are so many things they need to address offensively to actually

be competitive week in and week out. Especially when you're bringing in a quarterback. You definitely drafted a quarterback. I don't know who it's gonna be. Whether it be Shadour, whether it be Cam Ward, or maybe surprise to pick somebody else you might like that you've seen. But the other issues that need to be fixed, and to me, I would start with that offensive line. If I told you five years ago, this would... Russell Wilson's career, would you have believed it?

Bouncing around like this, Ocho? You wouldn't have. No, no, probably not. Not probably not because even me as a lover and an enthusiast of the game and understanding of it, the trajectory in which he was going was always, to me, he was viewed as the top, the cream of the top. One of the elites.

But it was consistent, year in and year out. Yeah. Year in and year out. He was consistent. He was a place of comfortability where he knew a system and you just go in there and do what you need to do year in and year out. Now on the back end things change. I wish Pete Carroll hadn't made that call. You already know what I'm talking about. Yeah. And you would have had two rings under your belt.

Yeah but I think man Seattle saw something. They saw slippage, Ocho. Ah, um, ah. Ocho, he's been on this his third team in 33 years. Yeah. Man, ain't no well-rounded, ain't no, let's not sugarcoat it. He's his third team in three years. Right. Um. Right. It's tough because you know, you had, you learned the Bronco system. You were there for two years.

You go to Pittsburgh, you learned that system. It gets harder and harder to keep. I mean, you think about it. It gets harder and harder to learn a system. Yeah. Even though, because look at Baker. Once he got to what, look, okay. He went to Carolina. He was in the Rams.

Well, we, everybody knew he wasn't going to stay very long with the Rams for the same fact they had Matthew Stafford, but look at him now he's thriving. But he got, he got great complimentary players around him. He got Mike Evans, he got Chris Garvin. He got a nice running back him. He got Mike Evans. He got Chris Garwin. He got a nice running back They did a great job bucket Irvin. They did a great job in the draft with the running back position, right? Like miss Mike Evans is mr. Consistency Chris Garwin went down, but hey, he's back back. Yeah

That's why I think you're supporting the cast matters, huh? That's why I say it all the time. Yeah That's why I think your supporting cast matters, huh? That's why I say it all the time. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But listen, for a quarterback that may be on the decline, where he's not the same as he once was, if you're a quarterback and you're not in the position and you need those players around you to make you better, where you're not the caliber player anymore to make them actually better, you have to be in the right system. Yeah.

The right supporting cast and everything will take off it's hard to hide your weaknesses when those around you ain't that good oh yeah yeah yeah yeah it's very hard to hide your weaknesses yeah cuz I'm gonna make you I'm gonna make you play to it yeah that's what makes the Eagles so difficult. You take San Juan away, you got two guys outside that can make you pay. You got to deal with it, yeah. So now what do they do? It's like we just go play zone because you can't run the football with what you got behind you, Patrick Mahone. You can't run the football.

Right. So now they say, you know what? Hey, Kansas City say, no, Sanwan, we ain't gonna let you do wing if we let you run outside the building. General Harris says, okay, I'll throw you out the building. Oh, ho-less. That's the thing. It's not that complicated.

It's really not. You try to take away what the strength is, and if somebody beats you with what, they says, okay, you just give them credit. I mean, if I'm at Kansas City, you go to the mill and feel, say, hey man, Jaylen, congrats, man, good okay. You just give them credit. I mean, if I can't see you go to the mill and feel say, Hey man, Jaylen, congrats man. Good game.

You got to live with that. Yeah, live with it. Cause they say quiet and run everybody else out of the building. He didn't run you out of the building. Jaylen always did what he needed to do. He had thrown 300 yards, but he was accurate. And he made you pay.

Every time Justin Jefferson is going viral Ocho he's riding an ATV and of course fans are afraid that Jenna could get injured doing this remember Big Ben Roethlisberger do we have it No. What? No helmet. We don't wear no helmets or ATVs, man. Okay. Now ask Ben Rothenberg, do we wish he had a helmet on? Man, that's, we ain't got nothing to do with that. See, that's the thing. See, athletes, what makes us great is what makes us fallible. Because we don't believe it's going to happen to us.

Well, he's not believing it, I mean, it could happen, but he got to say it. No, you don't, did you see what you said? You said don't nobody wear no ATVs wear the helmet. I mean, nah, I'm just, let me finish, let me talk. Let me talk. Go ahead. I'm from Miami, right? Yes. I'm from Miami.

What do we do here in Miami? We ride ATVs in the city. I've been riding them all my life. Marlon, let me tell you when I do them. Now, I don't do it all the time. When it was Christmas time, we 50D. Martin Luther King Jr. Parade, we 50D. On Yamaha Banshees, I ride dirt bikes.

I've been doing it all my life. I didn't wear, you know, I ain't never wore no helmets, but I ride careful. I'm very safe. All I see is him sitting there doing donuts in some sand all by himself. I mean, ain't nothing gonna happen right there. Not in that setting.

But I understand what you mean though. I understand what you mean. You know what you... You said, I remember when Lamar tripped over the jet skis. Wasn't nothing gonna happen though, right? How he tripped over the jet skis, don't you? Wait, who tripped over the jet skis? Lamar. Wait, who's trippin' on the jet skis? Lamar. What happened?

Oh. He's in? You know what they call people that ride motorcycles and ATVs? What? Organ donors. Oh, I ain't, listen, I ride safe. I've been ridin' safe. I ain't never had no accidents. But see, it's not you, Ocho.

Right. It's the cars. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. They don't anticipate how fast you're actually going. And they don't give a damn about you. Actually, yeah, they don't. But you know what I've always learned? You know what I always learned when I do ride on? I ride offensively and defensively.

I'm not riding for me when I'm on a dirt bike or Yamaha Banshee. I'm not riding for me. I'm playing scenarios out in my head as I'm going ahead. If that makes sense. It might not make sense to you. If certain things happen, I want to be able to process the information fast enough to be able to adjust. I don't know if you can do that, old Joe. Well, I mean, listen, I don't do it no more. I don't ride no more, I'm too old now, boy.

And the noise, the engine noise, get on my nerves. You never get old, you don't wanna hit that loud crap no more. I mean, I'm surprised. I would be shocked if the Vikings don't call him. He was doing us in some dirt. I don't think he was doing nothing. Doesn't matter. I got $140 million tied up in you.

A lot of times they put that, that's the same thing when people play basketball. Hey man, I'm just going out here, get me a ride. And then when you blow your knee out, then what, Ocho? When guys were skiing, skiing used to be a big thing. Guys blow their knees out, then what? Right.

You can't even. The thing is, Ocho, is that we don't think things that happen to common people because we're doing what regular people don't do. So by doing what other people don't do, we don't think the things that happen to them can happen to us. So why you think, so let me ask a question. I don't like that. I think they should be able to enjoy themselves. It's the off season. I think players should be able to do the things they like to do before they made it.

I'm sure he was riding four wheelers before. I'm sure Lamar Jackson was riding jet skis before he made it. I think they should be able to enjoy themselves. So what about the guy, so what about the gang members? What about the guy that was robbing people that was doing that before they made it?

They should still be able to do that, right? Come on, man. That's actual. I'm just using your logic. I'm just using your logic. You said a person should be able to do. I said the athletes, when they're in the off-season, they should be able to enjoy themselves as long as they're careful.

He should be able to do what he wants to do in the off-season, correct? Yes. OK. No, I'm talking about the players. No, no, no, no, no. That's not what you're saying. I'm talking about the players. No, no, no, no, no, no. I'm talking about the players. I'm saying there are players that did things.

What about all these Georgia players that get busted for speeding? 137, 117, 120, there's nothing wrong with that because it's the off season. And they've probably been driving like this their whole life, correct? No, that, there are rules that you shouldn't, that rules you're supposed to follow.

True. You're not supposed to be speeding. You're not supposed to be speeding. That's part of the rules. Oh, true. Part of the rules is saying you're not supposed to be speeding. Who said you can't ride an ATV?

Hold on. You should be able to ride an ATV in the off season. What about with a helmet? What? What about with a helmet? You don't have to ride it. You don't have, you know, there's certain places you don't have to have a helmet on, right?

Miami being one of them, wherever he is in the middle of nowhere, where there's nobody around going in circles. But what about taking precautions, Ocho? You don't, I mean, what about taking precautions? Okay. Nah, I like, I like it. I understand where you're coming from, but nah, that's that's just that's just being that's the nitpicking Hey, listen something happen to you when you walk out your door no matter what?

What happened to you? You're gonna be driving a car. You know a big way Let me ask you a question. Are you more actually to get into an accident riding a hundred and fifteen or driving sixty five? What are the probabilities? right riding 115 or driving 65? What are the probabilities? Right. Now, I'm asking you, don't say right. I'm saying which is more likely to happen. Okay, and listen to what you just said. Going 115 miles an hour or riding 65?

What's the probability? 115, the probability is you might get hurt going 115. But going in a circle, slow as hell, ain't nothing but happening. There's no chance that thing will roll over. There's no chance No, absolutely. Absolutely not not in dirt. No The wheels would have to get caught on something Not on dirt. It's an ATV

All ATV means all-terrain vehicle that doesn't mean anything oh Joe stop Oh, you're on dirt. You're on sand. I'm telling you, as somebody who's been riding for 30 plus years, all they're doing is going in the server. Ain't nothing finna happen. Come on now. Ocho, what chance is it? I understand what you're talking about, but come on now. According to government website, over 100,000 people visit emergency rooms annually due to ATV accidents.

Approximately three to 400 die in ATV accidents per year. So nothing happens. Hey, hold on. You should see you should see what those people doing as dying. I think you said there was nothing can happen on the ATV. We're talking about the video for context. He's going in a donut in a circle. Nothing's going to happen.

So let me ask you a question. Going in a donut, has a car ever turned over going in a donut in a circle. Nothing's gonna happen. So let me ask you a question. Going in a donut, have a car ever turned over going in a donut? What are we talking about? We're talking about the video with Justin Jefferson. I know somebody that had an ATV. I know somebody that had an ATV accident. We're talking about the video with Justin Jefferson.

What are we talking about? Hey, hey, you wanna tell them what you with your ATV accident, Ash? Going five miles an hour? Okay, T. Ash don't not ride no ATVs. You have a Ash fail or flipped over? Broker femur, fractured the rib, broken wrist.

Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, what? Serious, what she ran into? She flipped, I ain't get what, no, she rolled, she flipped over on herself. Oh, Ashley, she ain't never rolled before, huh? Huh? Yeah. She ain't, she.

I whole lot act. Bruh, Ash grew up on a farm. I'm talking about a ranch. No, no, let me take it back. A ranch. 10,000 acres. 15,000 acre ranch. Right.

You're like, no, you call it a farm. As Bob had, how many what? 5,000 head of cattle? 10,000 head of cattle. Is that a bigger than a ranch for you? Whoa, 10,000? Yeah. Jesus. No,000. Yeah Jesus no edge

But look and don't cap as don't really count I don't like to put her anything cuz ash clumsy right She throw a back out get up out of a chair It's 85 degrees and she got pneumonia. So Ash is an outlier. So for anything that could possibly happen. So you know what? Oh, Ocho, I'm sorry I brought Ash into this. Ash don't count, but these other people do count. Yeah.

Oh man, that was a good one. But I, man, I just couldn't, I just couldn't judge. I quit, hey, Ocho, I just couldn't judge. I quit, hey, I used to love basketball, man. I love basketball, but man, I got this money. So man, I ain't finna say I did some. You got your money just, and you stopped doing what you love. No, I didn't love it.

Because basketball wasn't gonna keep a roof over Mary Porter head. It wasn't gonna take care of the kids. Now you tell me that NBA players, they don't be good about their playing football. You say nobody's playing football? No, they still play basketball in all season. And you know what?

That's their crap, Ocho. You want to turn your mouth. Listen to me, let me finish. Can I finish? Yes. You know what basketball players also do in all season? They get their ass on ATVs. They get on jet skis. They go have fun on yachts. Can I finish? Yes. You know what basketball players also do in the off season? What?

They ask for ATVs. They get on jet skis. They go have fun on yachts. They travel. They do all those things. Now your mindset is a little bit different. Yeah. And it always has been because the structure and discipline, when you always remembering

what pays the bills. Yeah, for sure. You know, everybody doesn't think like that. That's why in certain situations, especially like this, you're very passionate because if it was you in that position, I'm not doing that. I'm not taking that chance. But you know Michael Jordan, he used to have a motorcycle club. He had a motorcycle. He used to race, well he had a motorcycle. He had a he's the race. Well, he had a team a motorcycle team. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah And he used to ride

hard He had a crotch rocket. So I mean he was zipping through this But he also had That he was good could play pick-up basketball Because he had it written into his contract for the love of the game clause so he can play pick-up basketball Not a lot at that time. Not a whole lot of guys had it written into his contract for the love of the game clause so he can play pick-up basketball Not a lot at that time. Not a whole lot of guys had it Mm-hmm, but I just look if he gonna ride it. I would just put a helmet on I would be rather be safe than sorry Yes, sir. Be right. I just better be safe to sorry. That's why I got off that

You know, you and I was talking about road bikes. Yeah. I always wore a helmet. Then I just, man, every time I turned around, somebody had done got their ass ran over and didn't nobody stop to help him. So, man, let me get my ass off this bike. Jay Williams, you remember Jay Williams? The dude? Jay?

Yeah. Lost his career. Motorcycle. Yeah. The dude, the number two pick in the drive, oh, Joe? career, motorcycle. Yeah, the number two pick in the dry out. Oh, okay. Okay. Yes, then. Yeah.

Motorcycle. Ah. I had a teammate got killed. Robert Thomas, he got killed on a motorcycle. I just look, my grandfather played that, and so once I got big enough, old enough, he said, boy, they call it ass fault. It's your ass and it's your fault.

That's all. Hey, one thing about ass fault. I ain't done one. I ain't done one. Right. I can honestly say I've never ever wanted a motorcycle. Yeah. I didn't do motorcycles, but man down here, them dirt bikes and them four wheelers, and

you know, we ride in the middle of the street. It just. Oh yeah. They got a motorcycle club out there. New York, Philly, and Miami. New York, Philly, and Miami. When they come to the dirt bikes. Yeah.

And them four, them Yamaha Banshees. Oh I see. I saw Me club out there, Ojo in Atlanta. New York, Philly, and Miami. When they come to the dirt bikes, and them young old batches. I saw Meek out there, it's like that every now and then once in a while you catch them in Atlanta, and they be about 50 or 100 feet. Wait, Atlanta too? Yeah, they got a motorcycle club. Oh, I didn't know that, I didn't know that.

And they go, and they go, and the thing is, you you need it because all that noise and then you can just, you can control the traffic. Because once you get behind them, you can't go nowhere. No. Because they take it up all lanes of the road and it's like 40 up. Yeah.

But I think that's the, you know, that's the best way to ride, is to, you know, to make sure you can protect yourself. Nah, hell nah. The Volume. Hey all you Women's Hoops fans, and folks who just don't know yet that they're Women's Hoops fans.

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