Club Shay Shay - Nightcap - Hour 1: Lakers Lose Game 1 to Timberwolves + Bucks in trouble!

Episode Date: April 20, 2025

Shannon Sharpe, Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson and NBA Legend Joe Johnson react to Round 1 of the NBA Playoffs featuring, LeBron James, Luka Doncic, and the Los Angeles Lakers taking on Anthony Edwards and the Minnesota Timberwolves, Nikola Jokic and the Denver Nuggets beating Kawhi Leonard, James Harden, and the Los Angeles Clippers, Giannis Antetokounmpo and the Milwaukee Bucks falling to Tyrese Haliburton and the Indiana Pacers, Jalen Brunson and the New York Knicks beating Cade Cunningham and the Detroit Pistons, and much more!06:50 - Timberwolves vs. Lakers26:12 - Knicks vs. Pistons33:19 - Nuggets vs. Clippers43:30 - Pacers vs. Bucks59:30 - Suns looking to build defense in offseason(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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second quarter, and blew the game open. Well, actually they took over in the third, second quarter and blew the game wide open. I was scoring the Lakers by 18 in the second quarter after being down by seven. And they really never looked back after that. And they win 117 to 95. It was a balanced effort. You got 16 from Julius Randall,

25 from Jayden McDaniels who was 11 of 13 three or three from the three Ant Man he wasn't efficient shooting the ball but he was dominant as a normal self 22 points and it was Naj Reed coming off the bench eight or 12 from the field six or nine from the three 23 points the Lakers with the exception of Luca nobody really played uh, in order for them to get back in this series, because the home, the home team has lost home court in the first grade, the first game. And normally that's not what you want to see, but they still got a ways to go. They got, they, this is an absolute muscle Monday night, Joe.

They've got to get this game, but, uh, LeBron AR, and they got to get some help from the bench. But watching this game, tell me, what did you see? What did you like about what you saw from Minnesota? And what didn't you like about what you saw from the Lakers? I just, I smelled trouble for the Lakers, man. You know, we've seen the Minnesota Timberwolves being in this position, knocking off teams, whether it was Phoenix, whether it was Denver. So and man, they're, he known to going, he known to going in somebody else building, position knocking off teams whether it was Phoenix whether it was Denver so and man them he known to going in he known to going to somebody else building you

know stick with some wins play play very effective basketball even though he didn't shoot well I put so much pressure on the rim and created so many other opportunities for the guys but man if you got Nas Reid and McDaniels gonna shoot like that from three, you in trouble. You're gonna be in trouble. It's gonna be hard for you to win that game. And so, you know, those guys were very efficient tonight and they just outplayed the Lakers. The Lakers looked a little charging.

They just didn't, outside of Luka having their great first run, outside of that, they just look, they looked like they was stuck in mud a little bit to me. Yeah, they didn't match, they didn't need to understand. This is the playoffs. This ain't no regular season. It's different. And they didn't come out, you know, they came out really good in the first quarter,

but that second quarter, and we know the Lakers, after watching them all year, Joe, they're gonna have a quarter where they take it completely off. Now it's normally the third or the fourth quarter. It's not normally the first half. It's normally they come out at the half or they, you know, or the fourth quarter. But we saw this turn of events in the second quarter where they ended up giving up 38 points.

After giving up 21 in the first quarter, they gave up 38 and then they gave up another 35 in the third quarter. So they gave up, what is that 73 points? Yeah in two quarters Oh Joe watching this game. What was your takeaway? Listen first off first off, you know The Lakers didn't come out and match the wolves intensity up the intensity listen on both sides of the court There was no intensity. They didn't play defense very well Nobody played well in the Lakers offensively outside of Lucas. So if LeBron is off, then if LeBron is off and Lucas is on, somebody else has to come.

It gotta be AR, it gotta be Rui, somebody has to have some points collectively as a group if your starters aren't fine or all cylinders. Ant-Man doesn't have a good game. Hell, Reed comes off the bench and he cut the fool. McDaniel's playing well. It was just a bad, it was a bad, it was a bad game all around for the ladies in general and normally when you have home court advantage and you're playing at home you don't want the home the way team to steal a game at home. You don't want that. So they put them, they already put

themselves out in a hole So Monday night like you said they got to have it if they lose Monday night's game It's good. They're gonna be in a heap of trouble Hey, hey, you see you see uh It's hard. It's hard to play Jackson Hayes when you switching all the picking rows and you ain't giving up the mclob threats Yeah, you press on the real It is and I plus the thing I thinkb threats. Yeah. You're too fresh on the rim. It is. And plus the thing, I think they're switching. They're too easy switching.

I mean, as soon as the guy starts the show, they go ahead and switch it. No, bro. Fight. Fight on the top. Don't give up. You're copping out. Fight through it. You're working out on us.

Don't do that. Hey, Fannie Smith, don't pass that off to Gabe Benson. Don't pass that off to Luca. No. Fight through that. Them little soft picks, they're saying to Luca. No, fight through that. Them little soft picks, they saying to Joe, come on bro, you gotta go harder than that now.

Cause it's easy. Oh, you just back away, you go ahead and take it. That's what Ed won't. And you see, they keep calling, they keep calling Luca. Nah, we want Luca. And they gonna keep, no matter who he's darned, they try to put him on the wicket. Man, they putting, they putting a, what's- they try to put him on the wicket man. They put in they put in uh,

What's-his-own-boy-name? Uh, uh, uh, rudy go bear. Yeah, they bring in rudy go bear damn near the damn Half court to set a pick because they're like, hey, we won't whoever luke is guarding you're gonna be the pick guy, right? Okay, bison because he's gave is what six foot tall if we were lucky And so but they gotta fight. I think they just gotta fight hard over the pick now Look if a team gonna be knocking down those threes like they're knocking out. It's gonna be tough. Yeah, it's gonna be tough It's not like the Lakers shot particularly bad from the three But when you let a team shoot 20 to make 21 of them and they shoot 50 percent They shoot 50 from the floor when you got your work cut out, they couldn't get no stops. Couldn't get none.

No, you're right. You're absolutely right. So you keep taking the ball out the net, man. It's gonna slow our offense down a little more. You know, they already a little small, so you know through movement is great for them. So you got to use misses like fast breaks, and they've been great at that. But hey man, Timberwolves won't miss tonight. Them boys locked in. I liked it. But uh. The only the only hey Joe and Unc the only way the Lakers were gonna fight any chance I have any chance of getting back in this game is they would have to steal points in transition. That that was that was the only way and they weren't able to do that. Well they just have to

get some stops and like Joe said when you're taking the ball out of the net they couldn't get any stops. Yeah. Because there's a couple times they forced to miss but stops. And like Joe said, when you're taking the ball out of the net, they couldn't get any stops. Because there are a couple of times they forced a miss, but you don't realize you've done nothing until you gain possession of the basketball. So even if you force a miss, if you don't gain possession of the basketball, you've done absolutely nothing.

And they wind them down a couple of times late in the clock and they hit some threes, Joe. You know, it's demoralizing, especially in your building. If you wind them down and you got them shooting the ball with one, two seconds on the clock and they splashing threes or they're making us, I mean, you like, damn, well, what I gotta do, bro? I bet, come on now, we done wind them down.

We took them up, grind them to the nub and they didn't making shots like that. They got a big boost. Devin Chimzo hit that shot at right there. That was a big boost going in for them because at that point they were down eight. Now they go down 11 and to start the third, they go like a 10-2 run.

So now all of a sudden, you know, a eight point, what could have been an eight point game is not a 21 point lead. But they've got to do a better job. Look, look at this, Rui minus 26, LeBron minus 22, Jackson Hayes only played eight minutes, he was minus 11, Luca minus 12, AR minus 25, Dorian Finney-Smith minus 11,

Vanderbilt minus two. You ain't winning like that. You can't. So now, if you Minnesota, and now you try to be a little greedy. Yeah, yeah, I'm trying to get sweet snakes. I'm trying to take both of them. You can came in, you can do what you want to do.

You just want to get one win. But you got the first one, why not be a little greedy? Why not go in that second one? And you know this, Joe, normally that first one is the easiest to win because especially if the team has been laying off, you got to realize the Lakers have been off for eight days yeah yeah and so you know and they didn't play that they didn't play a LeBron didn't play the last game in

Portland so they've been off a little longer but normally the first game is the one that you try to steal on the road once we get that we say well hey we here hell we might as well get another one you know I'm saying oh joy you might as well just try to go get that second was why we here guess what we won't even have to bring our ass back to LA if we go ahead and handle our business in Minnesota so go I did the next game in LA too yeah yeah yes yes Monday night whatever be Draft Kings no longer have let's see what what is it?

Okay, the Timberwolves knocked down a playoff record 21 threes. Draft Kings no longer have the Lakers as the series favorite. Now Minnesota is minus 135, the Lakers are plus 115. Poor performance with Magic has criticism. Coach JJ Reddick did a great job all season, but he didn't do a good job for game one.

The Lakers stood around on offense, played too much one-on-one basketball, and didn't make any necessary adjustments. Tonight was one of the Lakers' worst performance this season. They were flat, had no energy, and they played like it was a regular season game. All the things that we just spoke about, Magic just highlighted, so clearly they, you and I, and we know what we talking about here on Nightcap. Stephen A, I don't know why you had to tag me. This ain't got nothing to do with you, man.

Someone just text me a message to send directly to Add Shadow Sharp. AAA, NWA, I don't care what Shadow has to say. Lakers ain't winning in five. What? Hey, hold on, wait a minute now. This is a good question. And I'm gonna pose, Lakers ain't winning in five. What? Hey, hold on, wait a minute now. This is a good question, and I'm gonna pose this question to you. Now you had Lakers in five.

Now based on what you saw tonight, how confident are you in the Lakers winning this series still? Look, Lakers in five rolls off the tongue. It don't sound as good Lakers in seven. It don't sound as good Lakers in six, but I feel very confident. If it's six, seven, it don't matter. Lakers in five. But what Magic said, if you watch them, they was standing around, Minnesota getting offensive rebounds, kick out three. Put them in the pick and roll. Like I said, they just got to do a better job

of fighting over that pick. You just can't give up that easy. That's what they, if you do that, they're gonna keep doing it. Fight over that Finney, fight over that Vanderbilt. You've got to make it a little bit more difficult on the offensive end, from Minnesota has the ball, defensively, Lakers, you're gonna have to be

a little tougher than what you showed tonight. This is not nearly good enough. LeBron, this notion, as you get older, it gets harder and harder to get into rhythm. You see, he had no points in the first quarter, had 10 in the second, gave you three or four in the third. You can't do that because I get it. You want to let Luca and Luca can get going, but in the process, but at what cost? You get Luka going and now AR and Braun don't have no rhythm. Now, they didn't look. If you just look at the numbers, they got 72, which is about what they would average in the regular season. But when you don't get any production from your bench, remember we talked about this, Joe.

Fannie Smith needs to give us 8 to 10 off the bench Fannie Smith needs to give us eight to 10 off the bench. Gabe Benson needs to give us six to eight off the bench. Vanderbilt gives us four to six off the bench. Ruin. You can't play 30 minutes and give us nine points. We need a little, we need, we need a little more. We need a little bit. We need a little better than that.

And so look, I'm not overly concerned, but hey, I'm like, okay, now I'm sure JJ's like, look, we didn't play nowhere close to our best. Now what you've done is given them confidence that they can come in and beat our ass on our court, on our, in our building. Let's not, let's not, let's not play around. Let's go ahead and get game two. Cause I don't, you don't want to be in a situation, a Joe, a bad pass or miss call.

Now you're down O2 going back to Minnesota and you gotta get two to make this thing a series. So look, the Lakers didn't play well. They know ain't look 47 points in the second half. They got 30 in the third, they got 17 points. And they got got it to cut it down. It was like one point. It was 27 They got it all the way down to 12 Joe But it could sustain it The temple was just seen more desperate, you know what I mean?

It's like they understood the moment and they understood, you know the now like I we got it We got to get one and they gained the momentum Like I said after after Luca one on their run in the first quarter. That was it this is pretty much lethargic the whole game, but it's like they were just out there floating and You know, Minnesota just play with more grit and grind and they was they was effective But that's the thing but that's the thing though Joe is like yeah If you look at if you look at the Lakers

Luke is always going to Luke is gonna have a big quarter in the first half It's either gonna be the first quarter or it's gonna be the second quarter, but he's gonna get off one of those Yeah, and that's why it's no surprise when you look up He's got 20 points at the half because normally he's gonna go somewhere between 10 to 14 in a quarter Right. Yeah now if it's the first quarter, okay He's gonna get like a four to five minute break to start the second. And it gets him out of a rhythm. Hell, he getting going like that Joe. I'll be like, go back in there for the first two to three

minutes. I'll get you a rest a little later because he cooled down substantially in the second quarter. He called for it again, but at that point in time, when you down like they were down and Lucas going bucket for bucket with Ant or McDaniels or Nazri, you're really not doing anything. Yeah. I mean, LeRon going to have to take over. He's going to have to take over the next game and take over early. Most of the time he'll relax, let Lukwhee get his,

let Yard get his, let everybody do their thing, and then pick up. And most of the time LeBron will be efficient when he does decide to turn it on, but he gotta do it early. He gotta start off early. Let's say, how about we not let Lukwhee get in rhythm and LeBron gets in rhythm first,

and then allows everybody to catch fire at some point. Then at that point I think I make a little it'll make a little easier as opposed to you already being behind and you're forcing the mission shots As opposed to have to be efficient and you're already down 1213 hell at one point with the lake of that what's the most lake was down like 27? I think 27 almost 30 then employees Yeah, it was bad man, it was bad. They gotta pick it up man, they gotta find a way. Like I say, I think this Timberwolves team is very scary as we all know because they

were just in the Western Conference Finals last year. I know they trade, I know Kat was there, but you know, Julius Rundle tonight, you know, he was effective man. He played with grit and play with toughness And then you know those guys talking off the bench at the McDaniels the Reeds Mm-hmm. They were on you again Yes, they were on your game. So now like I say man is hey I'm looking forward to Minnesota trying to be greedy and game, too

And plus the thing of Joe I've noticed this and I've noticed because I didn't notice it until he got to the Lakers, because that was the only time that we've ever seen LeBron be injured. But when he has these groin injuries, he's not the same when he gets back because he's hesitant because he knows in Ocho being, and I don't know if you've ever had a groin or hamstring injury, you know suddenness is the worst thing to happen. If you watch LeBron, no rebounds guys right there, he's just like, if the ball don't come directly to him, he ain't making no sudden move to go get it.

And it takes him a while, so he's really got to gather. If you go back and look at that chase down block, he had to gather. They did a great job of tracking. But if you watch it, and I've noticed this, is that he's not going to do anything sudden because he had that groin injury like what? The game before that, maybe it was the Rockets game. He felt that little twinge and he came out. And so, whew! I don't understand what you're saying,

because he don't rebound outside his area like he normally do. You know, he's starting to break with that. Now he's just kinda, like I said, that first quarter, man, it just kinda seemed like he was just kinda floating me. You know what I mean? Yes, yes. Like I said, I don't look what's hot, but it's hard, man.

Basketball is a rhythm game, you know what I mean? Bruin is a rhythm player as well and when he gets it going, we know it's hard to stop him. But him sitting back waiting until the second quarter for him to scratch, that's going to be hard. We get older like them old cars. The new car crank rattled up. Now old, you got to pat that thing a couple times. Oh Yeah, you got a bump in breaks on this And then you let it warm up you just take out with a little older car you Let that thing get going and now you good to go So LeBron it takes him a little bit wider and I think the thing is that you see now

He's getting there a little bit earlier He's getting those shots up. He's probably staying on the court a little longer because he knows Hey, lebron. You go out there. Give him a little 10 15 minute workout. He good to go He brought that there 25 30 minutes now. Yeah, yeah, it's take a minute. Hey, you gotta gotta warm them old balls up man, get up. Why don't you get me on the front way baby, I'm ready though, I'm ready. So the Lakers lose, Minnesota go in, take game one in convincing fashion, 117-95. The Lakers need a bounce back game in the worst way on Monday night. The 40s and free agents podcast with Daniel Jeremiah and Greg Rosenthal has prepared you

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The Knicks beat the Pistons, 123 to 112. Jalen Brunson, 34 points. Cameron Payne had 11 of his 14 points in the fourth quarter. As the Knicks stunned the Pistons with a 21-0 run in the fourth, Carl Anthony Tiles, 23 points, 11 rebounds in his first game, and first playoff game with the Knicks and OG Ananobe also added 23 for the number three seed to Knicks. Hey, I'm like, man. Yeah. They right there. I said Detroit right there. Man, I went upstairs, came back down. You know what I said? I thought the TV glitch. So I cut the TV off and cut it back on. Because I. I'm lying. Hey, you know what I'm saying? I thought the TV glitch. So I cut the TV off and cut it back on.

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out here, man. But they did it. They went on a 21-0 run and broke the game open. This game had Cade Cunningham played better. They got some points late the ball game, but Cade gotta be better than this. You can't have 21 points on 21 shots. Right, right.

That's not good enough. That's not good enough. He wasn't that efficient tonight, but you know he dished the ball out well. I don't know how they lost that game, man. I'm just like you, I'm looking at the game. I swear I turned my head. It was like, hold on. But man, Detroit's a scary team. I thought they played a great game, man, up until their last quarter. I don't know, they just kind of collapsed. I mean, you're like the last nine minutes, the last nine minutes, they were good.

They started the fourth good. But from that, from like a five minute stretch, they did nothing. But when you get OG, give you 23. Cat gave you 23. Jalen Brunson gave you 34. Josh Hart, who's the utility, Swiss Army Knife, he's a spoon, he's a fork, he's a knife, he's a pair of scissors, he's a screwdriver,

he's a monkey wrench, he can do it all. He gave you 13, six assists, seven rebounds. And then you get Campagne, who scored 11 points in the fourth, to go along with 14, that was really hard. Malik Beasley does what he does, came in, gave you 20 points on six or 12 from the three point line. But they need some of their big guns. They need Cade Cunningham to be a little bit more efficient.

Yeah, I think Cade will be better. He'll be better in game too. But I know Deet Shur, they still gotta feel good about this, even though they lost. You know, like I said, they controlled the game and pretty much the entirety of the whole game up until about the last eight, nine minutes. They just kind of had to collapse. But I like this Detroit team.

They play hard. They're scrappy. Oh, man. They are. They're a really scrappy ball club. JB Biggerstaff got them playing. He got them believing. They believe they belong. I mean, they're not surprised scrappy ball club. JB Bickerstaff got them playing. He got them believing. They believe, they believe they belong.

I mean, they're not surprised that they're here. They believe it and they play. Like I said, I agree with you. I think Cade will be more efficient. Tobias Harris had one of his better playoff games. Tim Hardaway Jr. played really well. Thompson needs to be a little bit better.

Oh, look. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, yeah, you got to be better than that. You got to be better than that. We, we, we, yeah, I mean, yeah, you gotta be better than that. You gotta be better than that. We talking about Detroit and what they did, how they played well, the Knicks won the game. They did. The Knicks won the game.

And the reason they won the game towards the end, we ain't talking about Jalen Bronson yet. He had 34 and eight, and I'm gonna call him the conductor. I'm gonna call him the conductor, because the way he orchestrated at the end of that game and crucial time and made those plays Yeah, who's to say they don't play like that the rest of the series What if Detroit don't win no more goddamn games because of what Jalen Brunson was able to do

Hell goddamn Carl Anthony's towns that they were 23 11 and 5. Oh gee what is 23 and it's 7 Yeah, who's to say they don't catch heat and that momentum carries into the net game and the game after that, despite, you know, Kay not having the game. He should have scored 20 on 21. Obviously that's bad. He might come back and have, you know, a better game than that game, but hell Jenin ain't going nowhere. Carl Anthony Towns ain't going nowhere.

Brunson, the thing that makes Brunson is that the big moments, he's at his absolute best. Shows up every time. In clutch time, they're going to put the ball in his hands and sometimes they might go pick and roll with him and Kat, but they normally let him operate and they trust him. Okay, whatever you do, we'll live with whatever decision that you make and in clutch situations He's wanted he I defy you to find five better players in the NBA currently. That's better than him in clutch situations The last five minutes the game within five He's sensational. Yeah, and he will he and that was on display again

And one he's great at drawing fine. he's great at drawing contact, Joe. Getting to the foul line, he was eight or 10 a night from the free throw line, two or five from three, 34 big points, but like you said, it was the others. OG, Kat, Josh Hart was sensational in campaign, gave you 11 and a fourth, 14 off the bench. It's gonna be tough. It's gonna be, look, Detroit kicking themselves

because they know they supposed to have a stow this game. But like you said, Ocho, Cat and Brunson and campaign, they like, nah, y'all ain't gonna get this one. Nah, nah, it's a, this is the playoffs though. It's a fine line between winning and losing, Ocho. You can be feeling confident, like you gonna run through the series Yeah, you can a it can backfire the way you black man. We got to get a game. You know what I mean? Yeah

I think they try like I said, I think they feel good about it. Obviously. Yep, New York could go on They could go on they could sweep them, but I like this matchup Detroit in the Knicks man, and I'm looking forward to, you know, fireworks throughout this playoffs. And this is not like Detroit. They gave up 40 points in the fourth. Yeah. 40. I mean, they got to be, think about it.

They gave a 27, 30, 26, and then you go 40. That's what I mean. And JB probably say, look guys, we're a little cleaner. Hey, we you go 40. That's what I mean. And JB probably say, look guys, we're a little cleaner. Hey, we gave up 40. Let's be a little better on the defensive end. Hey, we were right there. This is a TAA and they're building. We know how MSG gets to rocking guys make a few shots, but we were right there. Clean this up. Like, I, I agree with you, Joe.

I feel, if I'm Detroit, I feel good. I feel good. I look I want to win. I don't get me wrong. I don't like a day we lost but I feel good that a nine minutes to go in the game. We had a point lead. It wasn't like we were down eight.

I had a point lead. So there's some things that we can do that I feel comfortable that we can do to get this win get game get A split this and go back home for two the Nuggets beat the Clippers and OT 112 112 110 and regulation Westbrook hit a huge three at the end of regulation made key several defensive plays According to ESPN research Clippers gave Westbrook an average of separation of almost 10 feet when he was taking three-pointers

in game one. That's the most separation he's gotten on three-point shots in a playoff game when taking at least five attempts since 2013-14. Russ finished with 15 points on five of 17 shooting. You just have to live. He's a guy that you're going to say, damn, come on. I'm going to rush.

What are you doing? But the one thing you'll never ever question about Russell Westbrook is his effort. Every effort. Every time. He's going to give you every freaking thing he got. Full speed. He's going to make some plays, like the play that, like the Yokey triple double,

where he blows the smokes to lay up. Now, the Nuggets got 18 seconds to get a, and they don't even get a shot off. Yeah. Yeah. Russ, that's not like Russ, cause Russ had a wide open three. He passed it up, got caught between like, damn, what the hell I do, and the clock run out.

Then like, damn Russ. But then he comes in, blocks the shot, challenges, gets two percent, gets a key steal, forces the ball off of James Harden. Russ is what won him this game. Cause he got like two offensive rebounds. Aaron Gordon got two key offensive rebounds, and he hit that big three to put him up Joe what what did you like about what you saw how because the Nuggets were down by as much as what 13 15?

Yeah, clip out of the way back into the ballgame and they ended up winning a very close ballgame The Clippers was controlling the game pretty much the entirety The Clippers was controlling the game pretty much the entirety. You know, I do think Russ' energy and effort definitely helps the Nuggets, man. And I'm sure he enjoys his win considering this game is one of his former teams. So I'm sure he's happy about that. But this is going to be a long series as well. I thought the Clippers was right there to really pull away. You look at Kawhi, he's been, he was playing, he's been playing pretty good ball.

James Harden was playing great ball. Like they look good, man. They did. I think James Harden getting in foul trouble. I think Zuboff's kind of getting a little foul trouble. That kind of took James out of his game, but James was sensational. 11 of 22, 4 of 9 from the three, perfect from the free throw line 32 points 11 assists six rebounds zoo

2113 Kawaii 22 and six Kawaii really had it going early. Yeah, he did he and James they had it going early He couldn't miss you look good, too The first quarter then I think he ended up scoring like only two points in the second quarter Yeah, but Aaron Gordon got going or late Yokich is yokich yokich gonna be yokich I don't look and they say nobody defends him better than Zubas and then you look up and he's like, hold on Damn, the man had 29 12 and 9 and that that guy defends him the best

Well, who did I hate to see the guy to defend them the worst? Good game to those look like had 21 and 13 That guy defends him the best. Well, I hate to see the guy that defends him the worst. Zupa played a good game too though. Zupa had 21 and 13. That's what, but see, if you play against Yoke, you got to go at him on the defensive end. You gotta make him work on both ends. And the thing, but you notice late in that ball game, that fourth quarter, he started challenging more stuff.

Where as early in the ball game, he wasn't challenging. And you see Harden laying the ball up, Ka the early in the ball game. He wasn't challenging and you see Harden laying the ball up quiet laying the ball up guys were laying the ball up now all of a sudden look Bro, you almost seven foot tall just go vertical. Just make them go up over you. Don't give no layup line Yeah, you know what you thought what you thought about watching the nuggets. I mean the game was good The nuggets played really well. Obviously I look at Harden, right? Harden, really they control the game, most of the game outside of towards the end. But here Harden had 32 and 11, but the Clippers turned the ball over 20 damn times. When it came to crunch time and then you got Russell being as intense as he always is, you know, as far as

playing defense and with Joker playing the way he's playing, when it came to crunch time because of the turnovers, then the Nuggets was back in the game. They were able to get back in the game because of the turnovers. The game, I mean, it was good. This is one that's gonna go to a seven game series. And I think me, based on what I'm watching and the amount of knowledge that I've gained to this point, the turnovers are gonna be key on who wins this series. Ask me how I know.

How you know? Because if they didn't turn the ball over 20 times a night, the Clippers win this game. But I think you got to give, I think you, like you said last time, we was talking about what Detroit didn't do. Let's talk about what the Knicks did do. Well, in this situation, you talk about what they did, what happened.

They weren't out there by themselves now. So somebody forced them into those turnovers. You see all of a sudden Russ playing pass lanes. All of a sudden they started getting up into people. All of a sudden it's not, hey, it's not a layup line. Aaron Gordon, you gotta, go ahead, Joe. I see the altitude kick in You think you think that's real man is real. Oh, yeah

Yeah, it's tough. Oh Joe. It's tough. Why you think but what so why do you think fighters go to Arizona? Why do you think they go to Big Bear? Why you think they go to LA why the US Olympic training facility in Colorado Springs if it didn't make a difference? Right. You know, it's funny. I always hear it all the time. Obviously I was able to play. I was able to play in Denver twice, obviously.

And you lost both times. I did. I don't remember whether the wins or losses, but as far as my winning my condition, I'm not trying to be rude. I'm not trying to be disrespectful. I'm just saying it didn't affect me on the field as far as my weight and my condition, I'm not trying to be rude, I'm not trying to be disrespectful, I'm just saying that it didn't affect me on the field as far as breathing is concerned.

And obviously during a time like that, it was pressure on me to be able to perform because I'm going to get 24. Yeah. I'm going to get the Hall of Fame and in Chan Bailey at the time. But I always get the thing about it being difficult to breathe when playing Endeavor in a high altitude. I'm just yeah it's less oxygen in there I was

curious what y'all thought ball travels farther that's there's a reason why people love kicking they love putting right they love hitting a baseball in Coors Field yeah the air is thinner altitude training that's what you know like I said if you go look at endurance athletes, they always train at altitude. Right. They go to Flagstaff, they go to Colorado Springs, they're in New Mexico. And so that's what a lot of, and you know, boxers, they go to Big Bear. Yeah.

They go to, they go to places where, you know, mammoth and where you have to like, take you a little bit. And sometimes, don't you remember, it came out, they had those masks on. Remember the breathing mask that you have yeah yeah yeah yeah I remember those yeah I remember B Smoke used to wear one of them. Mm-hmm but uh you so what so is this a seven game series Joe this is seven game series? Yeah I think I think it'll be a seven game series uh I think you know obviously the clip of you know they came to Denver to get one they probably feel good about this that I just think they ran out of gas in their second half But uh, you know, I'm sure they looking forward to game too

But you know until you went on the other teams home floor all getting the series. Yeah, so Just some this one probably gonna go. It's probably gonna go seven It's probably gonna go seven. Russ said the dynamic roller with Zubats, great cutters, guys catch lobs, my job is to be able to be low man and find ways to excuse my language, F-ish up. He did a great job because, you know, like I said, Russ is still, he still has that quickness.

He's not the finisher that he was was, he's not as athletic, but he's still, I mean, hey, he still can get it done. You still explosive too. And spurts, you know, he can still do it. And like you said, oh Joe, hold on, what'd he do? He had two steals, key steals. But even though he didn't steal the ball,

he forced him costly turnovers. Yeah. You know what? I'm happy for us too have a game like he did today where him being intense like he always is is a reason why they won because just not not too long ago you know he was one of the reasons why they lost based on his decision-making. So this was this was good for him and gave him the confidence he needs to go into the rest of series being aggressive like he

always is and doing what's best for not only him, but his team as well. And you have Russell in your team at this point, you just gotta accept what comes along with Russ. He's gonna make some plays, and you're like, that was unbelievable, son. That's how we win. And then he gonna have some plays,

like you're like, Lord, have mercy. I sure wish I, I sure, I out of the way of the chapel this morning because you got to deal with it. You got to do, you got to take the good with the bad. You got to. It's really that it's really, it's really that simple because he's going to make plays you like only he could have made that play and then on the other side, you're going to say only he could have emptied up. Nobody else could have emptied up, but he did.

So you've got to take it's kind of like Luca. People say, man, I wish Luca stopped flopping. I wish Luca stopped crying. I wish Luca you got accepted. He's not going to stop. He can't stop. Right. That's part of him.

He can't, he can't. Every time, if he doesn't make a shot, he gonna look at the ref like, he looked at me. You know he ate a pasta for pregame. So they ain't gonna call no foul on him. So, Joe, you just live with it. And that's where I am on that right there. So Russ, you gotta live with it,

because he's gonna make some spectacular plays, but he's gonna make some plays that leave you scratching your head. Well, you know the good live with it, because he's gonna make some spectacular plays, but he's gonna make some plays that leave you scratching your head. Well, you know the good thing about it, though? The good outweigh the bad with Russ. The good plenty's outweigh the bad. Most times the bad ones come at opportune times when they shouldn't happen.

And that might be the only issue. Yes, yes. The Indiana Pacers blow out the Milwaukee Bucks by the score of 117 to 98. Man, after finishing with the third, worst defensive rating in the NBA, defending sub-prodigious, well, no, that ain't even what we want.

Hey, what you got up here? Torian Prince got some cardio in. Kyle Kuzma, he was on his road bike too. He got cardio in. Oh, they ain't got double cardio. They ain't got double cardio. Torian Prince, 20 minutes, zero points. Kyle Kuzma, 22 minutes, zero.

But had to thank what's so amazing about Kuzma. Kuzma had zero points zero rebounds Zero assists zero steals zero blocks and two personal files man is scratch Hey, see this this this is what this is what I wasn't able to see I didn't get to see this one Oh, you know, I was at my track me watching my baby run. Yes, so this is the one game I didn't get to see because when this game was going on, this is exactly when my baby was running

the full hunting and the full by full. Man, this was everything I expected. Godly numbers from Greek Freak. Yeah. Just didn't get no help, man, didn't get no help. No. Indiana, their greedy team as well, they got a bunch of guys who can score the basketball and do a multitude of things on the court to affect the game

And if you got two guys and you're starting lineup who giving you doughnuts you got man You ain't got a chance to win it in the league like this But last time I seen this many donors out there Krispy Kremes and Duncan Robinson I mean Doug is Doug your doughnut this man, think about it. He was all five from field. He was all two from the three point line. He was all two from the free throw line. Zero rebounds, zero assists, zero steals, zero blocks, and zero points.

So you only got like nine stats that you can get, so you get something on one end. Nine of the ten demand had a zero. I don't know. I don't know if I've ever seen that in all my life. Now like I said, I was in 4-H. I grew up on a farm. I went to the county fair and I ain't never seen no issue like this.

Chad, I don't think y'all understand this. This man was zero or five from the field or two from the three point line or two from the free throw line. He had zero assists, zero rebounds, zero steals, zero blocks, zero points. How? I mean, y'all is like, hey, I'll tell you what, this is what I would need y'all to do. Kyle Kuzma, give me eight. Torian Prince, give me eight. I'll do the rest until Dane gets back in game three. They're like, no, no, no, no, no, no, we're gonna leave you out there by yourself. I mean, they got Yarny's outside. They got Yarny's. They done

closed the door on y'all It'll be the hell out of y'all this and they just closed the door to me happy but nothing So and just Kyle Kuzma and Prince had a green light to shoot when they want to even if you even if you miss it Like that do they had the green light? You know I shoot a shoot even you're missing you keep on shooting at some point is gonna fall are they allowed to do that? Yeah Even you're missing you keep on shooting at some point is gonna fall are they allowed to do that? Yeah See Your the playoff and it's the playoffs off if you got Greek putting all the pressure on the rim and you might as like Troy Prince was the top three-point shooter this year. It wasn't like he was no slouch

He probably was top five and three-point shooting this year He was no slouch. He probably was top five and three point shooting this year So I think the main thing is you don't have a damn out there another guy who can put pressure in Get his own make plates for others around him. So now everybody's watching Greek free He probably the only one really after who can go out there and get the bucket. Yeah, so that's why it's the way to look What you cow cow cow? Soon as I asked you on these first thing you said was no. So Kyle doesn't have the green light to shoot at Will being at somewhere. Why the hell I won't give him the green light? He got a learner's permit. He ain't even got a real driver's license. So what the hell I'm gonna let him drive for?

If they ain't playing, you gotta get them points from somewhere. Them points that they would have, they got to come from somebody. The man played too. The man got cardio. The man's the station, everybody. No, that's what I'm saying. He was 0 for 5, he was 0 for, and in nine of the categories, right? I'm, maybe he doesn't have the green light to continue to shoot at will, even though No! At some point, you got to make him. That's reserved for a Steph Curry. That's reserved for a Dane.

That's reserved for a Luca. You can't give no guy guy no Kyle Kuzma no green light to shoot it whatever you want to hell no okay all right and you got look at out the bench you got a green gave you a 15 Kevin Porter Jr. gave you 12 dad Trent Jr. gave you 14 but you got two guys he started think about it of your five starters of your five starters, y'all just had 36, the other three had 14. So they got 50 points from their starter. Yeah. You can't win, you're not winning. Hold on. So I was alongside the game like that. Hold on Joe, so listen I'm

not a coach. So as a coach, do you make the adjustments and put the players in that score 14 and 15? No. OK. No. All right. No. You know what, son, you got to be better.

But look, Ocho. Kuzma, look, there have been times that you're like, man, Kuzma, he's figured it out. Yeah. And then there are other times if I got glasses on, I'm a like, man, Kuzma, he's figured it out. Yeah. And then there are other times if I got glasses on, I'm a coach, I put my glasses on and say, Lord, have mercy.

I'm rubbing my temples. Cause he makes you scratch your head. Hey, if you know you got players like that, that don't have the confidence, you get them going early. You run plays for them on purpose. Allow them to get an easy bucket. You get an easy bucket, it gets you in rhythm. Hell, when it come to football, what we do?

You drop a ball, what's the first thing the coach do? Find something easy for you to get the ball back in your hands, to be your confidence back up. That's what they do to you. The third receiver ain't gonna keep getting balls thrown at his ass, he drop them. Okay, I see what you're talking about. You only get, that's the prop, that's the point.

You only gonna get so many opportunities prop, that's the point. You only gonna get so many opportunities before they put somebody else's ass in there. Okay, but I'm only saying- You keep getting thrown to you, and you drop a few. That's not reserved for anybody else. I'm just saying that, I'm only saying it because, okay, Dame Dollars not playing. If Dame Dollars is not playing, now whoever else is in there, they got to replace the production in some

way they might not be able to score as much as Dame Dollars is but we got to find ways to get those individuals who don't score like that and put it in position to get them points in some kind of way. Joe can you explain the old show they put him in position he later than he put a goose eggs. And Indiana, they taking a challenge, man. They got guys who ain't scared to guard, you know, the turn of the Pascal Siakam. So it's not like they just totally double teaming him and they making him score. Like, Young is shot. He shot 14-23 tonight. You know, they're making him go get it.

And I'm not gonna live with that. And he was 8 of 15 from the free throw line. Okay, I'll live with that. Cause guess what? What I'm not gonna lie to him to do, cause if you go look at it like his last 10 games, he had like six or seven triple doubles. So he's scoring 30, he'd give you 13, 14 rebounds,

and he's making it easy for others to score. So nah, hell nah, you go ahead and score. Don't even worry, we ain't even, hey, how many you want? You want 36, you want 40? Go ahead. But I guarantee you, the other guys ain't gonna hurt us. See, that's the problem.

Yeah, and that's why you see Kyle Kuzma only have five shot attempts in 21 minutes. You know what I mean? Like, they not leaving him, giving him no comfortable looks. Yannis, if you gonna beat us, then you gonna have mean? Like, they not leaving him, giving him no comfortable looks. Yannis, if you gonna beat us, then you gonna have to score 50, my boy. Just to keep you all looking the game, yeah.

I'll give you that. All right. And see, when you play the Nugget, okay, you gonna let Yoke get his 35 and you gonna let him have 17 assists? Is that what you, really, that's what you're trying to do no Get whatever you want eat as much as you want, but I'm gonna let none of the other more foes eat, right? They go starve and you see

0095 Cuz think about it your starters your bench players played more Than your starters, your bench players played more than your starters. Torian Prince had 20, played 20 minutes. Kyle Kuzma played 22 minutes. Uh, uh, Lopez played 21 minutes and Rollins played 19. Bobby Porter's played 25. Dan Trent Jr. played 27.

Kevin Porter Jr. played 29. Green played 27. So that tells you. Those guys wasn't getting it done. Hey, Doc, today, going in there. I think going in there. Well, hey, when you look at it, Kevin Porter Jr. and Gary Trent, they can kind of go off the bounce a little bit

and create, you know, not only for the fields, but for others as well. That's why when you got Prince in there and he only got one shot of tip in 20 minutes, that's because we not leaving you. You know, we're gonna play y'all as man to man straight up. We ain't giving y'all no death shots, none of that. And we gonna make y'all work for everything y'all get. Yes, and look, and that's what you have to do. Say, hey guys, I feel bad for you, Miles. I feel bad for you, my other feel bad for you.

See, I come cause uh, y'all just gonna give you that. He gonna give you that work. Yeah. It's like, Hey, we not finna double and then let everybody. No, no, no, no. Hey, whoever got on show today, bro, he gonna hang about one 51 75 on you, but we ain't gonna let nobody else get nothing. You gotta take the challenge. You gotta step up, step up and take the challenge That's gonna help us as a team man. It happens all the time Yeah, right cuz I don't want the mother guy because John is gonna get his Cuz he go if there's a crack he's gonna slide his slender ass through it

Yeah, and either he gonna dunk it lay it up when you gonna file it cuz think about it He had 23 shot attempts. he had 15 free throw attempts. I mean, think about that now. 23 shot attempts, 15 free throw attempts. He was working. He's making them work. Right, but you know what, that's also exposing everybody else weakness. I can't create on my own. I can't put the ball on the floor and create space to get my shots off. That's a weakness. Well as a team, as a team, as a team Ocho, that's the makeup of a team. Like everybody ain't gonna be able to go off the bounce and be able to create and get

their own. They gonna be great, they gonna be great off-ball defenders, they gonna be great off-ball players, meaning 3-and-D guys. Guys who got great energy on defense, who can cause havoc, and knock down the three, you know, offense. So I think that's kind of the makeup of this team. It's made up of Yannis and Thame to be the creators of the class. You know, and these other guys got to chip in and give us what you got. They can. Yeah.

Cause that's the thing, look. And that's what Dorian, he's not a guy that can take your joints, those are the guys that, you got three guys that can take you off the ground. And when help comes, they kick, you make shots. Yeah. Everybody can't be, he can take you off the dribble, he can take you off the dribble, he can take you off the,

no, you need a certain guy that need to be able to catch and shoot. Everybody has a role. Now, you would like to think that when it's time for them to play their role to the utmost, they do it. Yeah, they hit their shots. Yes, Yannis is going to give you what he's going to give you. Look, I'm going to roll Yannis down. Yannis is going to have about 30, probably going you. Look, I done rolled Yonis down. Yonis gonna have about 30,

probably gonna have 13 rebounds, probably gonna have five assists. He gonna cover every night. So that's what I, I done built that, oh, I done wrote that down in my book. It's kinda like, at the end of the day, you wrote down everything that you was gonna do, what you was gonna do.

Well, I can write down what Yonis gonna give me before the game even starts. You already, 13, six. Probably gonna do. Well, I could write down what Yarny's gonna give me before the game even starts. You're gonna get to it every time. 13-6. Probably gonna shoot. Probably 60%. So I'm like mid-50 to 60%. Okay, that's Yarny. What about Torrey Impress, coach? Alright, don't be cracking no jokes now. Because I don't know where the hell he gonna kill us.

I don't. I don't know. Kyle Kuhlman. I Kyle Kuzma, I was ready for Kyle Kuzma to go. I said, I have seen enough. When he was with the Lakers. Nah. It's time to move on. He only gonna be so good. He gonna redeem himself. He can only go up from here.

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Hold on. Let me see these zeros. Zero from five from the field. Zero from two from the field. Zero from three from the field. Zero from four from the field. Zero from five from the field. Zero from six from the field.

Zero from seven from the field. Zero from eight from the field. Zero from nine from the field. Zero from nine from the field. Zero from nine from the field. Zero from nine from the field. Zero from nine from the field. Zero from nine from the field. Yeah, hold on. Let me see these zeros. Zero for five from the field. Zero for two from the three. Zero for two from the free throw line. Zero rebounds.

Zero assists. Zero steals. Zero block. Zero points. Now, it'd have been really bad if he'd have zero files. So you was out there for 22 minutes and you didn't trip nobody? I didn't say, uh oh.

Yo, he didn't trip anybody? I mean, you didn't run through no screens. You ain't run through no screens. You ain't do nothing. You'd have zero cost of boy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That'd be the problem. That's hard, man.

Hey, that's a tough stat line and yes hopefully he'll use that for fuel though hopefully he'll use it for fuel and come back and game too and give me give you gotta give y'all some help man I mean you know what he gonna do he just need a little help man. Yeah, that joke had an Ocho double, you know, you had a triple double or triple single. Yeah, obviously nobody have eight zeros Yeah, yeah. Now if you got that if you got money with eight zeros, who you got the paper? Yeah, look You don't want to you know, you want to have that on the basketball court After finishing with the third worst defensive rating in the NBA this season, the Phoenix Suns' priority this offseason is to get tougher on the other end of the court.

On the latest episode on YouTube show NBA Insider Chris Haynes explained the Suns intend to move away from trying to build around a couple of stars and having more defensive minded and tough players that allow them to be more physical. Joe, is this the right move? Because I believe the only guy that's untouchable is Devin Booker. Matt HBS seems to have made it very clear. Devin Booker, what he's done in this community, what he's meant for this team, what he's meant for this city, he's off limits. Everybody else step right up. Depending on what you city. He's off limits everybody else

Step right up Depending on what you offer he can say that now But depending on what you depend on what you offer. You mean the man man They got two guys who were just on the USA Olympic team. Yeah, and They didn't even get in the plane in game. Yeah, like this is you know, that's unfortunate bro. So I don't know, I'm a devil booker fan man, but you never know what these owners want to say, you know, first get in position man. A lot of them, this is just for fun for them, you know what I mean? So you know, they make moves that, you, normally he's in person wouldn't do sometime

I've been in the end of that. I've been on the other end of that. I know what it's like But here's the thing. I think well if you get rid of everybody Who the fans gonna rally behind I think you keep Booker just out of that now. I don't I mean personally I don't think I don't think but they'll trade book That's just me personally you believe that that's possible contending but what are you gonna get? Maybe get some draft picks Some of these young kids coming down. Hold on, but that's the but I'm saying you want a whole you want to start your whole team

with draft picks well big If you want you he mentioned he won't deep. He won't better defense. with draft picks? What, big? He mentioned he want better defense. He want physicality, right? You get ready to score. Bradley Beal, you know what he agrees. He says, you know what, I have no trade clause, but I'm gonna let y'all send me somewhere where I actually want to go.

You move on from KD. So you go defensive wise, you go physicality, you keep Devin Booker. Well, where the hell is the scoring coming from? We what is going coming from now? I'm listening. I'm listening. Let's talk We just talked about the Bucs you got two people where you got one person you got Dame out Dame is Dame is out You got the only person putting up points that you can rely on to put the ball in the goddamn basket and Yannis But now we talk about getting getting getting rid of two prolific scores.

Actually, yeah, two and keeping one and you want to go physicality. So that just depletes your team and puts you in a hole. You got everybody playing defense, but you ain't got nobody to score. That don't make no sense. How many guys go in like that? Hey, we can only go up, man. We didn't make the play in, Ocho. I mean, we gotta do something, man. We in the Wild Wild West. Like, it's tough over there, man. It's tough.

They gave up so much. They gave up so much to get KD. They gave up so much. They gave up draft picks. They gave up one of the better perimeter defenders in Mikael Bridges. They gave up so much. They gave up draft picks. They gave up one of the better perimeter defenders in McHale Bridges. They gave up Cam Johnson, the guy that can knock down shots. Okay, you said, okay, big three, big three, big three. But now you lose De'Andre Eight.

Now De'Andre Eight wasn't the greatest defensive center, but he was a seven foot rim presence. Now you don't have that. You have Nerkic. Nerkic is a big body. He can rebound, but that's about it. Slow footed, no real threat on the offensive end. You had Alex Lam for a while. He's not here with the Lakers sitting, taking up space. So when you look at the Phoenix Suns, I mean, I want some defense. He's probably going to want to go.

They got, I mean, look at this point, Brooklyn accommodated Kevin Durant. I want to go to Phoenix, play with Chris Paul, CP3. Well, that's what they need. They need a point guard. Let's start with that first and foremost. They need somebody to initiate the offense. I'm going to take the ball out of Devin Booker hands and put him at the to Devin Booker is best at the to not running the offense at the to let's start with that

Secondly, yeah, you got guys that can put the ball in the basket, but you can't guard a park card with Uzi And the motor missing. Yeah, so So now everything is a layup line. Everybody getting whatever, they get whatever they want against Phoenix. Whatever, layup, they didn't get layup line. They get shoot around threes. You not winning. You not winning like that.

Yeah. They try to play Devin Booker like the Clippers do James Harden. Yes. Appreciate the offense, can score a wheel, a willing passer can pass, and it just hadn't worked out for him. It just hadn't worked out for him. But if you remember, James was always that,

because when he came in with the shock troops at OKC, the ball was in his hand. So he's always been that. So now he goes to Houston and now he's not coming off the bench. You remember those first couple of games that he had with Houston? They're like what the hell? Like 38, like 35. So James Harden has always had the ball in his hand. Now granted, Russ came in and took some of that and obviously when you play with KD. But when he went to Houston and perfected that craft,

so now he can play like that. Booker has never ever had to play like that. So you're asking a guy to do something that he's really never done. It's nothing for James Harden to do that. Cause guess what? Everywhere James Harden has been, since he left OKC, he's had the ball in his hand.

Had the ball in his hand at Brooklyn. Even with Kyrie and KD, James had the ball. He goes to Philly with Ben Simmons at the, well, Ben was gone. When he got there and you had Joel Embiid and you had Tyrese Maxey, he had the ball. He goes to the Clippers, Paul George, Kawhi. He's got the ball. So you... Which ain't hard does. He has the ball. You're asking Booker to do something that he hasn't done. Yeah, James is a great ISO player. He has a great, great feel for the game.

And he understands when to pass and when to be aggressive and he's been great at picking his spots Yeah, I mean it's two totally different players. He's a better isolation player than Devin Booker Yes, you know plus his IQ is very high as well, which is why he's a rank up these double doubles the way he does He's led the league in assists twice. Yeah, so clearly he can facilitate offense clearly He understand he's an IQ basketball player. You're not leading the league in assist. Now, granted it happened, hopefully the guy on the other end don't monk it up,

but he understands he's tremendous. And him and Zubots, he's turned Zubots into a hundred million dollar man. Yes sir. Cause him and Zubots in the pick and rollubox into a hundred million dollar man. Yes, sir. Because him and Zubox in the pick and roll, he going to drop you or leave it for him. And Zubox going to power it home. Yeah, he's tremendous. He perfected that step back three.

Yeah. James Harden. Yeah, because he was the one that was. I'm like, hold on. He traveled. Hey, hey, hey, Joe, when I first saw it do it, I said, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that,

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that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that Was like 22 games in a row or something like that. Yeah about 36 again. Yes, I came in On the win streak they had probably already won like 11 12 in a row But man his preparation for the game is different. He really sits it he in the gym He works on them shots. Yeah, what the dog shots which is why he's so tough to guard He's so crafty in the pick and roll because he can beat you in every way If you go under he gonna shoot the three if you go over he gonna keep you in jail back there Keep you in that little huckle buck. Yeah, I got the floaters the dish house the lives the zoo bop And that's hard to stop man. Look. Yeah, no, he got a crew with him who you know, those guys made some shots tonight

That's why I was I was lost the way they controlled their game. Yeah, I think Kawhi cooled off a little bit in the second half, because the first quarter he had it going. Yeah. James had it going. I think James getting in foul trouble, that hurt them more than anything.

Yeah, yeah. That really like, because it took him out of his rhythm. But James can, look, I mean, you can't say enough good things about James Harden. He, first of all, he's a member of the 75th anniversary team. That tells you right there, he's an MVP. He's an all-MBA selection. And he had the highest scoring month since, you know,

since probably 70. He averaged 43 in a month. Yeah. Which was a tick above what Kobe had. Remember Kobe average like 35. Yeah. He had that 81. He had like four or five 60 point games.

Uh, but James Harden is a great score of the basketball, but no, and, but he's an IQ player. Normally guys is hard to find a guy. He and Luca like that, that could score the basketball like that. That they can get you 60. But they can get you 15 assists. There have been very many guys in the history of the game that could score 60 and get you 15 assists. James Harden and Luca could do that. Yeah. Yeah. He can affect the game in that way. Yeah. He's a tough guard, man. He's a

tough guard. For sure. You, James Jones, what you doing? How do you improve the Nick? I mean, excuse me, the sons. How do you get them better? Because just a couple of years ago, they were in the playoff.

They were in NBA finals. They have a 2-0 lead on Milwaukee, they end up losing that. They make another run. What are you doing? What are you doing? Man, first hope he keep his job okay hey man you know I really got rid of the coach they can get rid of what three of the coaches them all them coaches still make my fire my fire mighty Williams after four years they fire Boggles after not

ten months they fired bud boon holes months. So you're about to have your fourth coach in four years. So you got 80 million dollars, you got 80 million dollars in coaches that's not even working. But and there's no players that's gonna walk through that room and save your job though. There's no players. Who are you going to get when you got some of the best already? That's why I need to go get. Go ahead Joe. You starting over, you try to get lucky and get, if you try to get some of these top draft picks this year, and I don't know how you can do it, but there's some talent in this draft, man. Hey, okay, Joe, you said talent in the draft. Can you name one college player that can come in that can change the franchise? They can change. I ain't saying, when I say change,

when you say change the franchise, I ain't saying it's a rookie who can come in and give them a 60. No, ain't no LeBron James, ain't no Kevin Durant in this draft. But you want excitement, you want promise, you want hope. So, you know, it's some young phenols who can come in and keep these Phoenix fans excited enough

to where they're still in tune with the Sars, man. You know, they love their Sars down there. Yeah. Yeah. The Volume. The 40s and Free Agents podcast with Daniel Jeremiah and Greg Rosenthal has prepared you for the 2025 NFL Draft. We've told you what last year's playoff teams need to return to the postseason. And how teams with new coaches should approach the draft.

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