Club Shay Shay - Nightcap Hour 1: Lakers lose to the Magic on the road, Doc Rivers sounds off about playoff wins, & Unc & Ocho respond to Asante Samuel!

Episode Date: March 25, 2025

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson react to Lakers losing to the Magic, AD makes his return to the Mavericks, & Unc and Ocho have a heated discussion about Asante Samuel & much more!06:14 - Show start09:32 - Lakers vs. Magic17:10 - Anthony Davis returns against Nets22:10 - Doc Rivers sounds off about playoffs wins31:41 - Unc and Ocho respond to Asante Samuel58:00 - Tom Brady talks split from Patriots(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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So get your tickets. Thank you for your support. The Lakers fall to the magic 109-98. The Lakers win three with three losses in a row. They lost seven out of their last ten ballgames. They lost to Boston, Brooklyn, Milwaukee, Denver. Then they won three straight beat Phoenix, San Antonio, Denver. Then they lost another three straight, Milwaukee, Chicago, and Orlando. The Lakers' bench was outscored 30 to 14, which was an issue. The Lakers got to do a better job of guarding.

Watch this game from start to finish. They're just not guarding. They're just not guarding. Now look, they're about a year or two away. Orlando, Paolo Boncaro, and Franz Wagner? Oh, they legit. Oh, they legit legit. They legit legit. Boncaro had 30, Wagner had 32, and then they got Black, came up the bench and gave him

17, but they are legit. The Lakers got to do a better job of defending It's really that simple. They didn't shoot the ball. Well, they shot about 46% They shot 28 free throws or the free throw was pretty close 10 or 32 from the three-point line the difference with us Orlando shot damn near 50% from the floor. You're not gonna beat a team if you allow them to shoot 50% from the floor. And, but everything was really close. I mean, Orlando had 43 rebounds, 12 offensive.

The Lakers had 39, 11 offensive. But the only difference I could really see, Ocho, was that third quarter got them again. Every time. The Lakers had a two point lead at the half, and then they get outscored in the third quarter by about 14, 16. And it's the third quarter again, JJ is going to have to play some different

buttons because they come out lackadaisical and they let the team go on a run. And it's hard to reattach yourself to them when they go, when they are, uh, get a streak like that. But give a Orlando credit. Um, they won their ad. As a matter of fact, they stopped Cleveland. They went on the road. Cleveland had a 16, 17 game win streak.

They went into their building and they won. So, they're better than their record would indicate. But the problem was Bankero got hurt at one point in time. Wagner got hurt at one point in time. So they haven't been able to play extended period of time together. But this is a good team. Don't let don't let their record fool you. But the Lakers have to be disappointed.

They got to play better than fourth spot right now. There are two and a half, I think two and a half games out of the second spot. But tonight, again, it was defense. They gave up 146 Saturday night and they gave up 118 tonight. And they had been playing really, really was defense. They gave up 146 Saturday night And they gave up 118 tonight and they had been playing really really good defense up until that point Okay. Now with everything that you said there and forth Right, they lost tonight you understand the problems and the wolves that the Lakers are having the inconsistencies they want to run

You're understanding their woes coming out of halftime in the third quarter. Allowing teams always going to run. Now think about everything you just said. I want your honest answer and your honest opinion. Is it still legacy five? Make us a five. Make us a five. Look, that's fixable. Look, that's fixable, Ocho. That's something like, look, guys, we've got to do a better job of defending.

Yes, sir. And you can't, guys can't get broken down off the first dribble. Right. You get broken down in the first dribble, now you're compromised because help's coming. Yeah. And now they swing the ball, they're getting wide open threes. Right. Or they're getting uncontested layups.

So you can't get broken down off the first dribble. So you can't get broken down off the first dribble. Right. You can't get broken down off the first dribble. Right. You can't get broken down off the first dribble. Right. You can't get broken down off the first dribble.

Right. You can't get broken down off the first dribble. Right. You can't get broken down off the first dribble. Right. You can't get broken down off the first dribble now you're compromised because help's coming yeah and now they swing the ball they're getting wide open three right or they're getting uncontested layups so you can't get broken down off the first dribble they got us for 34 to 18 in the third quarter I mean there's no there in no way right sure the Lakers team that got Luca Donchich and LeBron James on the court only score 18 points in a quarter yeah Yeah. And if you only score 18, you better make sure they don't score more than 22. Mm-hmm. Because if you do that, and I get it, the Lakers, I think they played what, seven games?

Well, at one point in time, they had seven games in 10 days. Right. But we don't do excuses here. Okay. You either win or you lose. It's a very short on sports menu at my restaurant. Only thing I got on my menu is dubs and elves. That's all you can order. You can't order excuses because I don't serve it. So the Lakers are gonna have to find a way to play

better in the third quarter. They're gonna have to find a better way to defend because this is not acceptable. This is not acceptable. I mean look at all these minuses. Dorian Phinney-Smith, minus six. LeBron, minus 17. Jackson Hayes, minus 10. Luca, minus nine. Austin Reeves, minus seven. Every starter was minus.

Hell, as a matter of fact, everybody was minus. That's not good enough. You can't win like that. There's nowhere around it. You can't win like that. And when you take Jackson Hayes out, Braun is basically playing the five. Too small of a lineup.

I mean, maybe the last two, three minutes, four minutes of a ball game, you can run this lineup, but not when they go in Bankero, not when they go in Wendell Carter, not when they go in Franz Wagner. You're too small. You're just too small. Redick admitted the Lakers looked tired tonight.

We weren't able to sustain the level of intensity we started the game with. They did. It scored 30 in the first quarter, 30 in the second quarter, 60. They had a two point lead, 60 to 58 and a half. But then again, out of the third quarter, here come Orlando.

Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. And there you go. Same quarter every time. Needed to play some different music at the half, huh? They need to do something, because this ain't getting it done. No. This ain't getting it done. I mean, and what's their record?

So that's 50, that's 61, that's 71 games. They only got 11 games left, Ocho. Yeah. You're supposed to be gearing up. You're supposed to be playing your best ball hitting into the playoffs. Not, you know, maybe they left a little bit on the look, because at one point they were like 18 and three,

I don't know, have won a bunch of games. You don't want to be sliding going into the playoffs. You want to be playing your best ball hitting into the playoffs. But... this performance was unacceptable. And Don Konek only played five minutes. But I think a lot of that has to do with it. Look, his defense intensity, I mean,

he needs to understand. He just gets lost. It's like, and I can tell JJ is, JJ doesn't like minimal mistakes. Yeah that Ertson Cuz he's a perfectionist and he wants guys like guys we went over this. That's why I couldn't coach we went over this The guy comes. Okay, you stay on that guy. Don't try to fight over the top and lead the guy on a wide open three So Lakers got some problems, nothing they can't solve.

They got what, three more games on this road trip. I think they got a four game road trip before they turn back to the Crip. Well, I know that hurt. I know those road trips back to back. Indiana? Yeah. Yeah. So they got, they got, they got away. They got, they got, they got three more games on the road, Ocho, before they return home.

They need to play better than what they played tonight or what they definitely, what they played against the Bulls. But they picked right up where they left off, not playing defense. They started with great intensity in the first half, but that waned in the third quarter. And that was really the undoing of them. AD, Anthony Davis returns after 18 games, absence versus the net. It is returned 12 points, six rebounds, three assists,

six or nine field goals in 27 minutes. Hey look, look, I don't know how many, I don't know how many players the Lakers would have traded AD for But you got a trade in Falouca, yeah There ain't a whole lot of players a team won't trade Is reported that they called Minnesota by Ant-Man. No, it's reported. They called Milwaukee about Yanis. No They're not getting yoke No. Is reported they called Milwaukee about Yanis? No. They're not getting Yolk.

I'm trying to think, can you name another player? You probably couldn't get, I wouldn't break up JT and JB. Right. But other than that, your ass up out of here. Everybody's a green light. Everybody else a green light. Everybody else is a green light. So you can't feel bad.

And I, hey, y'all know what I think of AD. I love AD. I like him and Brian together because he was the last line of defense. He could pick, he could guard pretty much one through five. He was tremendous in the picket row. Excellent, excellent. Help side defense could give you 25 and 12 on a nightly basis.

But 32 year old AD versus 26 year old Luca. Yeah. And then obviously an injury prone AD, you know, which has always been an issue of his not being able to stay on the court, but understanding what he gives you once he's on the court. But the problem is, is you make the trade, it happens. He comes out, he gives you the AD you used to, but not enough consistency to be able to stay on the court to make the fans feel like, okay, you know what? We let Luka go, but we still got AD. He's still able to come here and produce.

He's not Luka, you know, by any means, but he's still a quality player that can put butts in the seats and be productive night in the night out When he's on the court You see him come back and have a have a have a have a good game tonight You know before until he gets his legs up underneath him gets get gets acclimated to the speed of the game and gets Hisself back in rhythm, you know, so still decent tonight, though Yeah, that's one of the reasons oh, Joe. Yeah. When he stays healthy,

we've seen him last year. I think he played like 70 plus games, which is the most games he's played in a very long time. We know what he can do. Yeah. He's as skilled as anybody. He can shoot the three. Now he's not shooting 40% but he got the three ball in his repertoire, mid range game, can post it, can put it on the floor, can finish at the rim, above the rim. You're filing, he gonna go to the free throw line, and he gonna make 80 plus percent of his free throws. So, offensively, and we know he's one of the two or three

best defensive players in all of basketball. We're not even, that's not even up for debate, but like you said, his injury history made it real easy, plus his age made it real easy for the Lakers to say, you know what? Luca for Luca for a D. Yeah. Plus we got another decade of Luca and we need superstar in order to attract. Cause you look at that, when you look at their court side and you look at

everybody else court side, only the Knicks can rival. Yeah. It's different. It's different. And it's always been different and always going to's different. It's different. And it's always been different and it's always going to be different. And that's what you need to attract those stars to come out and Miss America by the way. And we've got a new podcast, Quiet Please, with Mel. And Kira. We are bringing you spicy takes on sports and pop culture, some golf haves, and interviews

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podcasts. Dark River says he doesn't get enough credit for winning three games in a playoff series where he blew three-one leads. No one tells the real story and I'm fine with that. It's unfair in some ways I don't get enough credit for winning those three games. I get credit for losing. I always say what if we had lost to Houston in six? No one cares. One thing that I'm proud of is that we've never been swept. All coaches have been swept in the playoffs. My team achieved. A lot of them overachieved.

And I'm proud of that. Did he say this out loud? Yeah, I'm not sure. Hold on. He said this so somebody could write it? Wait, is this really his quote? I mean, are we happy about losing, but the fact that we didn't get swept, is that satisfying? Is this some type of moral victory or something? I'm just it's more embarrassing that you had a 3-1 lead and you couldn't win another game

Hey, I just want to know how you feel about it But they know I come on man. Yeah, dog Come on, you know what? I wouldn't you say it nothing. I said, yeah, that's all me Yes, I've had three one lead in five or six series, and we weren't able to get it done. I've got to do a better job of putting my players in position so we can get it done. I would have never, ever said,

I don't get enough credit for winning three games because it's not a best of five. Doc, you came in and there used to be a best of five. As a matter of fact, I'm old enough to remember, they used to be a best of five. As a matter of fact, I'm old enough to remember they used to be a best of three. Yes, they were a best of three. And because you had a best of three, a best of five, the Eastern Western Conference was the best of seven,

so was the NBA finals. So Doc, if you had won three games and a best of five, you got a ton of credit. Yeah. But in the seven game series, it's the first of four, not the first of five, you got eternal credit. Yeah. But in the seven game series, it's the first to four, not the first to three. Doc said that. Doc said that out loud.

I'm just, do you know it also? I'm just wanna ask you, do you really think this is his quote? Is it from a reliable source? Yeah, it's him, he's talking, yes. It's in quotes, yeah, that's what he said. It's the Mark Spears. He said, no one's tells the real story and I'm fine with that. It's unfair in some ways. I don't get enough credit for getting those three wins.

You don't get credit for winning games. You get credit for winning series. Right. If it's the NCAA, you get credit for winning games. One in one shot. But not in a series, not where it takes four. Right. Come on, Doc. Doc is too much of a student of the game. Doc has too much basketball high level IQ to ever say something like this to have it printed.

Lord, have mercy. Uh oh. How'd, Oh Joe, that'd be like, that would be the equivalent of DQ said, Hey, I don't get enough credit for having a 28 three lead on the, on the page. I don't get enough credit for that. Cause I did have a lead. You know what? How many coaches ever had a 25 point lead in the Superbowl?

What good is that? You lost. Yeah. Yeah. You right. That's the same thing when, when the Houston, the Houston, those Orlers had that big lead against, against Buffalo. Yeah.

A lead. You're talking about a lead, not winning the game, but we had a lead. It's even more embarrassing that in the first to four, you won three games and you lost the series still. That. I don't know. I need more context to the conversation. Cause the way it's being worded doesn't sound like,

come on, Doc, would you really say something like that? Would you really want credit for winning? Because he has the most three, he has the most blown three one leads in NBA history. He's saying y'all not giving me credit for winning three games. Nah, and that ain't the way. Who won't get credit?

That ain't the way it works though. In nothing, in nothing you do in life he had uh uh against the celtics in 23 a 32 lead lost 2020 against the nuggets in the bubble 31 lead lost 2015 the uh rockets he was at the clip he was at the clippers at the time Rockets. He was at the clip. He was at the Clippers at the time lost 2012 against the heat. Three, two lead lost 2010 against the Lakers. Three, two loss 2009 against the magic three, two loss 2003

pistons three, one lost. My goodness. Listen, the, the, the, lost. My goodness. Yeah, listen, the, the, the, the difficulties of being a coach, the difficulties of being a head coach at the highest level. Here's the question. The question Mark Spears asked him, how do you deal with all the criticism you've received from the media and on social media

from losing three one series leads four times? Doc quote was a direct response to what he was asked by Mark J. Spears. Yeah. How do you feel with all the criticism you've received from the media and on social media. So I guess ain't nobody else criticizing. Huh.

You don't think other coaches talking about, damn doc, you don't think players saying, so what you think, I get it, blaming the media, blame social media. So, but we're the only ones, ain't no player. As a matter of fact, what happened when he lost the Clippers 3-1 lead and guest management blamed him too. Yeah. They got him up out of there. Yeah. Okay. Billy, what did they do? They got him up out of there. Yeah. So I guess it ain't just the media and social media. So I have a question. It's his bosses. So hold on. Hold on, hold on, hold on. Now I have a question. I think now the opportunities given when it comes in the NFL is a little bit

different as opposed to the NBA. Now he continues to get jobs for a reason. Exactly. So you can't say. Yeah. He's a great coach. He's a great coach. He has to be great at something there that he does because there's a reason you continue to have all these jobs despite the losses that are happening at important times, at the wrong times. And they're letting you go, but you get the job somewhere else right away like it's nothing. So there's something special about him. Right. I don't like that answer though. Hell nah, nobody likes that answer.

If he could take it back, if he could read the quote now with a little bit of clarity and understanding. What you mean? Let me finish. I guarantee you, he'll word it different. He'll worded differently because if i'm telling you see how you see how you in your right state of mind is sitting here reading it and then getting better context on what the question was yeah hey

yeah yeah let's put up because we want to put some more comments because you think he was taking out of context he had no idea because once you told me what the question was that that gave me a better understanding. It was a direct question, so the answer and the quote was literally direct based on, you know, sometimes they leave stuff out. Okay, how about this here? It is what it is, it's a part of my legacy.

There's nothing I can do about it. I got a team that was an eight seed up three one. That's coaching, that's not bad coaching. Um, there are several eight seeds that have actually won. The Denver Nuggets was the first eight seed. They beat the Seattle Supersounds who was the number one seed, but we'll talk about that later. The one with the Clippers is the only one that got away, but people don't realize that Chris Paul was running on one leg in 2015 with the Clippers.

And we also, the underdog in that series, when you think about it, Houston had home court, not us. So let me get, it was good enough. You got, you beat them twice on their home court to get a three, to get a three, one lead. So he was on one leg. So one leg got you a three, one lead. One leg couldn't get you another win.

Okay. Okay, how about this? We didn't have home court. Well, it goes road to your first two games at the, if you're the underdog, that means the first two games at their home. So that means in order for you to get a 3-1 lead, you had to have won one game on the court. Exactly. It's on your resume, Doc.

I think the best thing could have said, hey, look, it's a part of me. I wish maybe I could have done something different, right? Call different plays, put players in different situations. It's a part of me. I wish maybe I could have done something different. Right. Call different plays, put players in different situations. But to say I don't get enough credit for winning three games, when it's a four game series, when it's a seven game series and it's the first of four, not the first of three. He got to miss me with that one.

Yeah. He got to miss me with that one. So sorry, Doc. We can't me with that one. Yeah. He got to miss me with that one. So sorry, Doc. We can't agree on that one. Oh, Lord have mercy. I was hoping we'd have to do this. Asante Samuel saw the clips of us debating him in prime, and he responded to us, Ocho.

Yeah. That's your problem, pimp. You're also brainwashed at Shanna Sharp. I'm not worried about what everyone perceives to be true. Like yourself, I stand on facts. You have yet to talk about the facts. You can easily be manipulated just like everyone has because of marketing. I bet you won't debate me. Big facts.

Oh, Shannon Sharp safety has a short safety has the short middle. Nobody's in the deep, but me and the receiver. You don't know the truth, Pimp. You just talking out your, with no facts. Right. Let's talk or you scared like everyone else bro. Hey, I didn't know he answers you like,

okay I like that, I like that. Hey y'all, hey y'all listen, we can have a club shay shay, right? Listen to me now, stay with me. You have a club shay shay, DV edition. A good conversation, PowerPoint presentation style,

film up there to support each of your opinions and facts that you might have with them. And then no opinion, he's not time. What are we debating? Let me finish, baby, let me finish. Listen, I'm giving you the ultimate content right now. Something that's never been done before.. Something that's never been done before. A format that's never been done before.

Two players, actually three, because you're a part of a two, three players. You got Prime and Sonny Samuels and you. You're one that loves a breakdown film. He's also one that loves a breakdown film. Now, just picture this. You think Cat Williams did a whole bunch of numbers, what you think you and Son sitting down, you know, going over, okay, you want to prove it?

Prove it. Diana Scott on line. I'm just, I'm just throwing the idea out there because the format has never been done before. I've given, I've given coach time and myself have given a Tante Samuel more tension since he's been retired than he's ever gotten. After tonight, I'm done with this. There's nothing to debate. There's no one gonna say he's in the realm of time. He's in the realm of Derrell Rivas. He's in the realm of Rod Woodson or a Charles Woodson or a Daryl Green or a Mel Blunt.

He's not. I don't give a damn what he says about the film. He played more, he played more. Look, bro, you had an unbelievable career. Congratulations. You're just not time. You're not time. You're not Rebus.

You're, hold on. Did he not Reavers. Hold on. Did he make an all-decade team? Because Tyne made all-decade and he's one of the 100 greatest players of all time. Let's see his resume. Let's see his body of work. I complimented him. I said, Tyne don't believe in wasted motion. The T-step worked well for Sante.

I gave him a compliment. Let's see his resume. So he didn't make all decade. Four time pro bowler. One time all pro. How many times, how many pro bowls a time? How many all team? Yeah.

Oh. Same number of super bowls. But one guy was a defensive player of the year. One guy as a defensive back swung the balance of power. How many DBs can say swung the balance of power? He go to one team to keep the other team from going. He goes to the other team and keep that team from going. Bro, you had an unbelievable career.

You went to a pro bowl, you an all-pro. You're not tying. And that's not a snark. It's okay. It's okay. But I don't know why you getting mad at me. I tell you what, go find the GM, go find the coach, go find the player that says

Asante Samuel is the equivalent or better than time. That's all you got to do. Hell, your son won't say you better than time. And he a junior. Just be real, man. You coming out of the wrong one you... What you doing? Where you going? I got that. What's that? I don't know what you're talking about, bro. I don't know what you're talking about. I complimented you.

I said you had an outstanding career. I said the T-step served you well. I just said you weren't tired. That's okay. If somebody says you know what they're talking about, you know what they're talking about. I don't know what you're talking about. I complimented you. I said you had an outstanding career.

I said the T-step served you well. I just said you weren't tired. That's okay. If somebody says you know what they're talking about, you know what they're talking about. I complimented you. I complimented you. I complimented you. I complimented you. I complimented you. I complimented T-step served you well. I just said you weren't tired. That's okay

If somebody says you know what Shannon you had an unbelievable career Shannon you were the eight Pro Bowl your first team all Pro you're an all-decade player you in the Hall of Fame But you ain't grump. Okay You ain't Travis Kelsey, okay But you ain't gonna go no other tight end than me talking about you ain't that. If you want to say Grump, if you want to say Kelce, Shanna, you not that. I ain't finna fight you. But you ain't gonna go no more.

You ain't gonna go no more. Because when I left, every record that a tight end could have, I had it. Catches, yards, touchdowns, most yards of the game. Hey, so hold on. I just, now that you mention that, when it come, when we factor in the numbers and statistics, does that play any factor in Assante's case? Or it doesn't matter, just curious?

He had more pass breakups and fewer interceptions. How many pick 60s did he have? All I know is when I left the game, I had every record that a tight end could possibly have. Ain't nobody had them but me. Now, that one came along and broke them, Gonzo broke them, and Gaze did this, and Gronk and this and that.

But I don't know why he mad at me. I gave him a compliment. Yeah. I said he had an outstanding career. I said the T-step for him served him well. I like the convo. I like the dialogue. I would love, especially for not the casual fan,

but for people that are fans of the game, I wish we could dive a little bit more. I'm obviously not here on the show, I'm just saying. I'm just asking you, find a general manager, find a head coach, find a receiver, because he talking like he was that. He about, I guarantee you, when you find somebody that say he a top 10 cornerback,

if we go back and study history, top 10 corner. So we got time. We got Revis. We got male blood. We got Rod Wilson. We got Darrell green. We got a Nils Williams. We got male blood.

Okay. That's seven right there. What are we, where are we going to put him in the list of all time? And the history of the NFL? Is he cracking the top 10? That's your homeboy. He was farting. I want you to tell me. You tell me. What, what would you put him? No, I'm asking you. I just named seven guys.

Which one of those seven guys you are, you putting him in front of? You heard me? Y'all listen. I'm asking you, what are you? Oh, I forgot about champ Bailey. You putting him in front of champ? You didn't answer the question. Are You put him in front of champ. You answer the question

Are you putting him in front of champ? You heard me I'm listening. Yeah, where would you put him? Where would you write? No, I asked you Yes, I'm asking you the question. I asked you. Yes! Now I'm asking you, where do you rank him? Based on what you call- I'm asking this man, I just asked this man a simple question. I gave him seven, eight names. He told me where would I rank him.

I asked you. Yeah, because listen to me- Don't, I get it. You're gonna probably bump into him. Hold on, hold on, hold on. But at some point in time- Hey, hold on, it don't matter who I bump into. Okay, well you gotta be kidding me.

Let me finish. The guy that I mentioned. But he addressed you. It don't matter who I bump into. OK, well, you got to be the guy that I met. He addressed you. Well, are you asking me the question? He addressed you so I'm asking you, where do you rank him? I already said it. Are you putting he's not in front of time? He's not in front of Revis. He's not in front of Wade Wilson. He's not in front of Charles Wilson.

He's not in front of Mel Blunt. He's not in front of Neils Williams. He's not in front of a champ, Bailey. That's seven front of Neils Williams. He's not in front of a champ Bailey. That's seven. Okay. That's seven guys. Okay. Now, stay, stay.

Now you, who is he in front of? Is he top 10 all time in the history? Dick Nitrate Lane, a mill tunnel. Is he in? Hey, hey, uh. Uh. Hey, hey, uh, uh. I'm just asking. He got all these facts.

Who is he in front of? I'll tell you what. Who is he in front of, of the list that I just made? Now you, you, you name, you name all, you name all time, like all time. He talking like he all time great. That's the problem. Nobody got a problem with him saying he's not good. We're talking about, he talking about,

I think you talking about all time great. The guy that I list, he's at the front of the line. Time it. Mel Blunt, defensive player of the year. Charles Woodson, defensive player of the year. Rod Woodson, defensive player of the year. There been a lot of guys. But number two, one is at the front of the line.

Yeah. He talking like he in that room. There are groups, look, we go into a room in the hall of fame, okay, we go into a room, we all into a room, but the hall of fame. Okay, we go into a room, we all into a room, but there are certain guys at certain tables. We in the room, but we not at that table. He not even in the room, he on the outside.

Hey, y'all know I played, right? Yeah, but this for big dog. Keeping a stack. So I want chat. Y'all tell me are the guys that I list, who he better than? I ain't mentioned Pat P. I ain't mentioned Mitchell Sherman yet.

I just gave y'all a couple of names. I want you to tell me who he better than than the list I listed. Who y'all putting in front of chat? Y'all put him in front of Deon. Y'all put him in front of Reivers. Y'all put him in front of Charles Woodson, Rod Woodson. Y'all put him in front of male blood. Who are y'all putting, champ Bailey? Who are y'all putting him in front of? Asante Samuel. Who? Quante Samuel, who?

I'm trying to see what the chat talking about. No, I want you to see what the chat talking about. You played against it. What you talking about? You played against Charles Woodson. You played against Pat P. You played against Shurm. Who are you putting in front of? I ain't playing against Shurm. Who are you putting him in front of? I ain't playing against Shurm.

But you know, I did my thing everywhere I went. You hear me? It was like Halloween. If I'm not going to do it, I'm coming to get some candy. I'm asking you a simple question. Of the guys that were mentioned, who is he in front of? And I wouldn't say in front of because you mentioned, you know, the greats, but he has the, he has the numbers to be in the room. I know, I know that much and you base everything off numbers.

When you talk about, let me finish before you say anything, when you talk about MJ in comparison to Michael Jordan, when it comes to the base in any other sport, we always bring up the numbers But all of a sudden numbers are ignored when it comes to now talking about the comparison Listen to me, I'm not finished Okay, but again now we understand we understand but when we do a comparison based on greatness, you know, we do everything with numbers. I'll tell you what, guess what, you had a former coach. Uh huh. Your former coach had three Pro Bowls and 62 picks. You taking dick LeBone? Oh, hey, what you know about LeBone? Since you like numbers. Hey, what you know about

LeBone, right? You love numbers. What you know about me? You just told me numbers. Hey, what you know about the numbers? What you know about the, hey. You just told me numbers. Yeah, I mean, that, listen, that's what everything is based off of, right? Yeah. No, okay, numbers, okay, let's go all pros. Let's go probos. Let's go all decade. Let's go defensive play of the year.

Right, right. That's part of numbers also. Right. Just not picks. Okay, okay, okay, I got you see I look at it like this if you get six picks and you give up eight touchdowns what have you done okay I see what she's doing I got I like that I thought the job of a corner right is to take away more than you give up mm-hmm

that's that's a great combo that's great. I'm just waiting on this man to tell me who is he better than than the list I renamed. Now we're gonna have, guess what? What? Let's have the conversation. Hopefully, Lord spare both of our lives. We're able to have a conversation another 10 to 15 years. We will. Now I. Now I'm going to need to see a gold jacket on his back. Because all the guys that I've been to, now hey, Jalen Ramsey's going to be coming up. Richard Sherman's going to be coming up. Pat P's going to be coming up.

You see, what he trying to do, oh, it's all about marketing. Bro, you played on the Patriots. Ty Law played on the Patriots. Ty Law got a red jacket and a gold jacket. So don't do that bull job about marketing. If you, who was on TV more than the Patriots, Ocho? Oh, during that 20 year run? During that time, ooh.

Nobody. Oh, so now it's marketing. Time ain't no marketing, bro. Yeah, he market himself to know how to parlay that, but that man on the field, you better go check them tates. Hey, that's- Either you can or you can't.

That's a great conversation, bro. That's a good one there. Oh, I thought- It's a good one. Willie Brown, Mike Hayes. Mike Hayes got nine like nine provos. You better go check. That's a great comment.

Oh, let me grab me a water, man. Asante, go ahead, bro. Asante, you had a great combo. Well, let me grab me a water, man. Asante, go ahead, bro. Asante, you had a great career, bro. You a good player. You just, all I said, you weren't tired. And you had to get personal. I don't know why. I mean, if you want to come on Nightcap to get your name out there, you could've did that.

Hey. Hey, hey, hey, listen. That is a great combo, bro. You hear me? It's a great combo. What? What's a great combo? This one? I like this. I'm just, obviously, it's not me as the individual, but I'm just saying, that's why I was telling you.

And his prime, is he better than Stefan Gilmore. At some point, hey chat, don't y'all want Ocho to chime in and still just talking about this is a great combo? Hold on, I'm listening to you. You tell him, you tell him. Oh, this is Nightcap funky Ocho. Hold on, hold on, hold on.

We don't listen to each other, we go back and forth. I've been chiming in all night. No, you ain't saying nothing. I'm listening to you. I'm listening to you, huh? You see what he said, he listening to me. He ain't dressed Shannon Sharp. He sent a long message to Shannon Sharp,

so I'm just listening to what you have to say. Hold on, where did he address Shannon Sharp, and what was Shannon Sharp speaking on? On what, on him? On Nightcap, Nightcap, Unc and Ocho. Right, so is your job to answer back. I get it. Chat, y'all see, Ocho don't wanna tie me to Heath, Florida.

Ocho might bump into it. Y'all know me, I don't give a damn. And wouldn't bumping in have him do anything. Whatever, whatever. See, here's the problem. Here's the thing with Shannon Sharp. Whatever Shannon Sharp say on Nightcap, Shannon Sharp, if he bumped into said player, Shannon Sharp is mad enough to stand on that.

Bro, you not Tyin'. You not Charles Woodson, you not Rod Woodson, you not Darrell Reivers, you not Mel Blunt, you not Mike Haynes, you not Daryl Green, you not Fats. Now, of the 10 guys that I named, find a coach, find a receiver that say Asante Samuel is better than any of those guys. See, the way you make it sound, you being you you you being mean. You you.

I don't know. Hey, oh, oh, Joe. Were you were you. Oh, Joe. Hey, you, you see, hey, you hear how you make a sound? You make it sound like like buddy was trash or something. I didn't say he was trash. I'm just saying the way you, I'm just saying the way you talking like you were acting like

we just sitting there talking about some just some old bum we I'm just I'm just curious Ocho who could I say yeah I mean and listen I played the game listen I played the game wait stay with me stay with me stay with me real quick I played the game on the other side of the ball so I know I played against prime I played Zont. I have an understanding of both and how good they were, what they... Oh, hold on. Great as Prime was and how good Zont was. So it's hard for me to sit here and say, you know, the way you do it... When I saw it with my own eyes... I understand how great Prime is,

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radical nuns in combat boots and wild haired priests trading blows with J. Edgar Hoover in a hell bent effort to sabotage a war. J. Edgar Hoover was furious somebody violated the FBI and he wanted to bring the Catholic left to its knees. The FBI went around to all their neighbors and said to them, do you think these people are good Americans? It's got heists, tragedy, a trial of the century, and the god-damnedest love story you've ever heard. I picked up the phone and my thought was this is the most you get your podcasts. All I said, I said he was good. I said he was a very good player, had an unbelievable career.

Look how you said it. He used the technique. He used the technique. He used the technique that time doesn't approve of. Two things can be true. Yes, sir. Okay. Some guys like to play press and open the gate. Yes, sir. Some guys like to press and put hands. Whatever technique works for you.

But he was talking as if he was the equivalent because he posted his stats and time stats. Right. Saying, look at our stats. Right. So he's posting those stats as if he's the equivalent. Okay. And I said, he's not.

I didn't say he wasn't a good player. I said, he went to Pro Bowls. I think he was an All-Pro. I know he won Super Bowls in New England. That's what I said. He took offense that I didn't co-sign him. I don't need no marketing. I don't need to co-sign him. I think everybody's known. I didn't have an opportunity to critique Tyron when he played when he went back for those two years Right because he was mainly a safety and he didn't start the game. Okay, that's fine But I've never had a problem

critiquing any player I critique Tom Brady Peyton Manny You name a player Ray Ray Lewis, receivers, or T.O. Randy. I've never had a problem critiquing because I'm basing it on my not intimate knowledge of the game and film study. When I was at CBS, I would watch film. How many times when I was at CBS or Fox, when you ever heard a guy call and tell

about Shannon Sharp, don't know what the hell he talking about. No, that didn't, that didn't even happen. See what y'all trying to do. What are you doing? That's not what I said. ever heard a guy call and tell about Shannon Sharp don't know what the hell he talking about? No, that ain't gonna happen. See what y'all trying to do. What are you doing to say? That's not what I said. No, no, I never said, I never, see the difference is, Skip tried to say, I said I was better than Tom Brady.

I said Tom Brady wasn't playing well. Why would I, as a tight end, compare myself to a foreign? Okay, right, right, right, right. I would need to compare myself to Gromp, to Kelsey, or a tight end. That's the only way you can get an equivalent. I said, I said... Yeah. Asante had a great career. Pro-Bowls, Super Bowls.

Now, like I said, you want to say, Shannon, you ain't travel, you ain't grump. You right. You got to live with that. You right, you got me. Right. You got me. But I'm just confused.

Hey. But look, bro, I gave you 15 minutes of fame. Fame that you never would have got had you not mentioned me or time. Enjoy it. Now, go back to your solitary life. Nobody's going to... When was the last... I tell you what, Ocho.

When was the last time... Try it till last night. When was the last time you heard somebody mention Osante Samuel? Take your time. I'm gonna go get me some water. Take your time. Hey, Chat, y'all keep on with your interesting. Hey, anyway, Chat... we back on the love set.

Need to love set. Other than that, it's a great conversation. I like it. I like the dialogue. I like the back and forth. I like players also, what we always talk about, having a belief, not only belief in what you can do and what you've already done,

and bring it to the forefront. Bring it to the forefront and support what it is you've done in comparison to someone else who is also great. And that's okay. Now, a lot of people won't see it that way. As you can see, including none. But one thing I've always do, see, is

if you were bad at what you do, then I will always come out and say that. But I played against both, and I understand how good both were. I understand how great Prime was. Obviously catching him on the tail end of his career, and obviously playing against Asante during this Prime, and understanding how good he was, how much of a student of the game he was.

And what I'm not gonna do is diminish what I was able to see for years while I was playing and understanding, watching film, and understanding how good he was and how savvy he was technically. So it's different coming from someone that actually played on the opposite side and understand how good he was.

You know, so it's hard to see it, to say, oh, he's not, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, I had to go against this. I had to go against that for years. So it's different. It's different. You know, especially, and a lot of people in the chat, I've seen some of the comments on Twitter,

on X, whatever it may be, their feelings are always different as well, because it's based off who you know and what they've done Hey, I'm that was good. Hey I'm I just asked you a simple question which one proud of last night and today When was the last time you heard somebody mention of Sante San? I'm for to know I'm gonna I'll be on nightcap Every time a tight end break a record who record they sit on at there? The most 150 yard game, the most lost disc, the most that. Every Sunday in the NFL season when the tight end does something, who name is up there?

When they have them names, he just passed this one. Who name is also up there? Ocho? Ocho? Hey. Don't worry about Ocho. Hey, hey, hey, chat. All I try to do, I try to, you know, try to go back and forth, but Ocho, you know, Ocho's like, hey. All right, we did, we did go back and forth. That was, that was a good one though. No, you, you laughing.

I'm saying, I'm saying for real. That was a good one. I don't. That was a good one. I don't. That was a good one. I don't. That was a good one.

I don't. That was a good one. I don't. That was a good one. I don't. That was a good one. I don't. That was a good one. I don't. That was a good one though. You're laughing. I'm saying for real, that was a good one. That was a good one. That was a good one. No.

Hey, to each his own, I wish him the best. Wish him the best. Tom Brady had missed tension, had developed with Coach Belichick during the tenure during the end of the quarterback's time with the Patriots. In the latest edition of his weekly newsletter, yes, Brady has a newsletter, I didn't know that. Brady briefly spent some time talking about the split from the Patriots. First, Brady said he knew he was likely wouldn't end up finishing his career with the Patriots. His first thoughts about

leaving the team happened two or three years before it actually happened. It was a creeping decision that livingly passive in back of my mind two or three years until March of 2020 when the world went over a few days made me realize that decision was coming sooner rather than later. After 20 years together, a natural tension had developed between where Coach Belichick and I were headed in our careers and where the Patriots were moving as a franchise. And it was kind of tension that could only be resolved by some kind of split or one of us reassessing our priorities. Right. I mean, we could see that from a mile away.

Everybody saw it. Everybody saw it. I don't even know. When that South Wickersham article came out. Yeah. And they talking about the Jimmy G. Yeah. The other matter of time.

Well, listen, you understand that as a quarterback, why do you think, why do you think Aaron Rodgers felt the way he did when they got, when they got Jordan Love, why do you think Brett Favre felt the way they did when they got, when they got Aaron Rodgers? The writing was already on the wall. He understood that. Brady understood that. That's why he had to go upstairs and go to the higher up and ask, listen, I don't want this over my back. I don't want this over my shoulder. This, I'm not comparing the situation, but as a competitor, you Brady, you

shouldn't be worried about nothing that's coming in there at all because of the decisions that, that, that Bill Belichick wanted to make as far as moving on. He was supposed to be a predecessor. Am I using predecessor in the right context? No. Damn. Predecessor mean he proceeded. Fuck.

Whoa, oh, my bad. He came after me. What word I'm supposed to use? My what? You talking about Jimmy G? Yeah, he's his. Era parent. Okay, hey yo, hey, my bad, my bad.

Hey, my bad, chat, I'm using big words. I don't even know what they mean. It sounded good though. Yeah, it did. It did. Hey, but anyway, you know, the competitive in him, understanding that you on the tail and you on the back end, obviously, is listen, I want to be able to play freely. I want my mind free. I want to, I don't want to be out here being hesitant, being gun shy, knowing that if I mess up,

y'all gonna, y'all gonna start the whole, you know, it is only a matter of time for they start being gun shy, knowing that if I mess up, y'all gonna start the whole, you know, it is only a matter of time before they start the rumors and the chants, we want Jimmy G and all that stuff, so I understand that. I want him gone, I don't even want him here. And I know that was a Robert Kraft decision. I know it was.

What happened was, is that if you study the 49ers, for the most part after 10 years, Coach Walsh, you look at Ronnie, you look at Roger Craig, you look at a lot of the guys. Only they start and so you start you move off a guy. The thought process was Ocho, you move off a guy one year early, as opposed to one year late. Coach Belichick had studied the history and says, you know what, guys start to taper off. And if we don't have that bridge,

we're gonna be like the Pittsburgh Steelers until they got Rothenberger from Ted Brashoff. We're gonna be like the Miami Dolphins. We're gonna be like a lot of these other teams, the Buffalo, excuse me, the Buffalo Bills, Jim Kelly until they got Josh Allen. So if we don't start a succession plan now, successor, heir apparent, whatever you want to use the term, what Jimmy G was supposed to do. Coach Belichick says, what I've studied, what I've learned is teams wait too long to find the successor

or the heir apparent to said great quarterback. I don't wanna make that mistake. I wanna have a guy in place, get him a couple of years under his belt, push him out the door, the guy steps in. That's what he wanted. But Tom was saying, hold on, man, I'm going to the Super Bowl damn near every other year,

every second or third year. I'm still an MVP candidate. I'm still going to the Subo damn near every other year, every second or third year. I'm still an MVP candidate. I'm still going to Pro Bowls. And you talk about I'm slipping? What are you watching? And when they redid Tom's contract and they didn't add years, they just took that bonus and gave it to him.

I said, it's done. Go back and look at, I said, it's done. Go back and look at it. I said, it's done. I said, you're not coming back. I remember. I remember. He ain't coming back. He's not coming back.

But listen. And the grip, because here's the thing, old chump. When you have success, see, as long as you don't mind who gets the credit, you don't realize how successful you can be. There we go. It started to be a push and pull because everybody, because we talked about all the time,

who deserves more credit, Belichick or Brady? Belichick or Brady? There is no way to definitively tell unless they left. One left. If one leaves and wins without the other, well, there's another person to do, there it is. Right. Tom leaves, wins the championship in his first year, gone. Yes, sir. Okay, now,

Coach Belichick, now you get a chance to answer. Right. I ain't saying you gotta win one the next year, but you gotta win. Right. But it went the other way. He got to the playoffs like, okay, maybe he got something. Yeah. But then, boom, boom, he stepped off a cliff. Tom still played at an elite level. Yes, sir. He won the Super Bowl. He got to the playoffs every year. There you have it. Yeah. The reason why the Patriots won was because of one, two, not the only reason, but now people was willing to give him more credit. Yeah. And also you have to understand when one, two leaves, when he leaves out,

leave New England in order for Bill. Patriots, Robert Crafters still have that continued success. You got to have the heir apparent at the most important position on the field that touches the ball every play. You got to have one of those on. You have to have one of those to compete. You got to. Yeah. You got to have one of those on. You have to have one of those to compete. You got to. Yes.

Now, those some big shoes you got to feel, but it's a boy. That's a tall task, especially when you talk about filling the shoes of the greatest of all time. Yeah, but the thing was that I'm concerned about is that Coach Belichick had an up close and personal look at Tom. And he know how motivated he was by the slightest of slights. Oh yeah. You put the biggest slight in the world on this man. It wasn't that he was drafted in the sixth round. It wasn't that he had to start as a backup. Even after the greatness in which he had displayed for you for 20 years, you was

willing to push him out. Can you imagine Ocho? Yeah. 20 years of excellence. Six Super Bowls. All those appearances. Nine appearances. And so you know what? We appreciate your services, but we think the guy that we got behind you is better. Yeah.

So what do you think that was going to do for Brady? If you think he was motivated by not being the first quarterback taken, or one of the middle quarterbacks taken, he was taken in the sixth round. 199. quarterback taken, or one of the middle quarterbacks taken, he was taken in the sixth round. 199. You just put the biggest target on your back. Right. That was a good one.

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