Club Shay Shay - Nightcap - Hour 1: Lakers Winning streak,Ty Lue calls Clippers "soft", Draymond's ejection

Episode Date: March 28, 2024

Shannon Sharpe & Gilbert Arenas react to the Lakers winning their 5th game in the row, Ty Lue calling his team "soft" and Draymond Green getting ejected 4 minutes into the game. 0:00 Introduction5:20 Lakers beat Grizzlies15:42 Clippers win over 76ers22:23 Draymond ejected31:35 Jamal Crawford says AD should be traded38:30 LeBron takes care of his body #Club #VolumeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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something in the mail today. You care to show what you got? Hey, man. Oh, huh? Oh, what? What? How you always get that so quick? I don't know.

I don't know. You must have put my name on it. Oh, man. I don't know what happened to Ocho's. Get it to me, huh? Man, that thing nice, that gear. Hey, hey. You know, I got the matching watch with it.

Hey, Ocho. I know Ocho in the chat, Gil. Gil, I don't know. I don't know, but the mailman, maybe his GPS tracking is off. But you know, in today's time, the mailman walked now, so he might be walking from L.A. to Miami to bring Ocho's ears. Ocho still ain't got ears? Uh, I hope.

Hey, Ocho, you got... Rail must have hid his. Yeah, Rail might be playing a prank on Ocho or something, because I don't know what's going on. Y'all think it should have been there. It should have been there by now. Ocho, man, bro, now you know I wouldn't do you like that, man.

I put that thing in the mail like two weeks ago. Where are you living at? Miami? Miami? Oh, yeah. They robbing boxes out there. Yeah, so somebody might got a nightcap black on their wall, Ocho.

They don't do that in my community. They make sure the boxes are where they need to get to. So somebody might got a nightcap black on their wall, Ocho. They don't do that in my community. They make sure the box is where they need to get to. Well, hey, Gil, I just wanted to show my appreciation for you, and I wanted you to have that. I know you only do one day a week, but I'm grateful, and Ocho and I are grateful that you decided to do the One Day a Week with us. And you're a very vital part of the Nightcap family. So we wanted you to have that.

Thank you. Enjoy it. And congratulations, bro. Thank you, man. Appreciate it. Appreciate it. Let's jump right into it, Gil. The Lakers beat the Grizzlies 136-124 without Anthony Davis.

Anthony Davis logged 52 minutes last night, the most minutes he had ever played in his career. And they gave him the night off after an outstanding performance last night and game in which he had 32 points, 23 rebounds and four blocks. So he was well-deserving of a night off. In his absence, LeBron James,

who missed last night game, was raring to go. He had a triple-double. The Lakers win their fifth game in a row, improved to 41-32. And without Anthony Davis, Roy was sensational. 32 points on 11 of 14 field goals, a career-high seven made threes, 10 rebounds. LeBron James logged the triple-double, 23 points, 14 rebounds, 12 assists, LeBron James logged the triple-double, 23 points, 14 rebounds, 12 assists, and two steals. D'Lo, 23 points.

Torian Prince, 15 points. Jackson Hayes, 14 points, 7 rebounds. Spencer Dinwiddie, 14 points, 7 rebounds. And Austin Reeves, Kobe of the Ozarks, 13 points and 11 assists. Darvin Ham said, For Friday. We'll see how he's feeling tomorrow when he wakes up. That was a really big win. This game here, if you lose this

game, last night goes away. It's all for naught. You can't beat Milwaukee, the number two team in the East, with their full roster and then turn out and turn around and lose to the Grizzlies. So I'm glad they came out with the right mindset, with the right intensity, and then turn out and turn around and lose to the Grizzlies. So I'm glad they came out with the right mindset, with the right intensity, and was able to pull this game out.

But what did you like about what you saw from the Lakers in this game when they got the win, 136 to 124? I mean, this is one of those games where, you're right, there was no, they shouldn't have lost this game, right? These are one of the games that's really important to the road trip. Yes. You can't start the road trip off with a loss against one of the weakest teams right now in the West. So this was a great, great win.

It really shows that games that they need to win against weaker opponents, they do step up to the challenge. The end of that third did look rough. It looked rough. It looked like one of those games where you're up 18 and then end up somehow losing that game, but they came out in the fourth,

hit two quick threes, and just kept that lead going. It was great to see these guys bounce back after that devastating end of the third quarter. You know what, Gil? I was thinking, and this is what's so frustrating about the Lakers. Now think about this. They beat the Boston Celtics.

They went to Boston and beat the Celtics without LeBron. They beat Milwaukee twice without LeBron. They beat Milwaukee twice without LeBron. This is what makes you upset, but this is also what gives you hope because you know they can beat anybody in a series. I don't think they can beat the Nuggets, but they can beat anybody else in the

West in a seven-game series because we watched them go on the road and beat Boston without LeBron. We watched them go on the road and beat Boston without LeBron. We watched them go on the road and beat Milwaukee without LeBron. Beat Milwaukee in L.A. without LeBron. I just, and I think the thing is you look at Anthony Davis. He's played the lion's share of the games this year. You cannot, look, there have been a few games here and there,

but with his overall performance, you have to be pleased. If you're a Laker fan, you have to be pleased with what Anthony Davis is giving you. He's giving you about 25 points, about 12 and a half, 13 rebounds on a nightly basis, giving you somewhere between two and three blocks on a night. So you can't be disappointed. Yeah, I know a game here and there, he had 10 points and two rebounds. Yeah, I get that. But overall, his complete body of

work deal you have to be pleased with what you saw lebron has been lebron lebron is lebron he's shooting 50 plus percent from the floor giving you 25 on a nightly basis seven and eight but what is it what you see this like bro y'all realize y'all beat Boston? Y'all realize y'all beat Milwaukee twice? How you lose to teams that bottom feed? You know what happens? And I don't know if it happens in football, but the media does it a lot with us. When a team wins without their star player, they always throw that narrative. They're better without them, right?

Yeah. What happens is this. There are certain players that respect the guy so much that when he's in the lineup, they're docile, right? So, you know, when I see it a lot with D'Lo, when LeBron is not there, he knows 100% he has the game under control. He gets to play free basketball. When LeBron is on the court, he's looking for LeBron the whole time.

What is LeBron doing? Is he clapping for the ball? Any noise that goes, he's looking to see if LeBron does one of those. So it's just one of those second natures that happen with players. It's like the fanboy in them. It's like when you play with Kobe.

Kobe hasn't shot the ball in two times. Where's he at? Instead of you just playing your game and letting the star player find his way, those players lose themselves when LeBron is on the court. It has nothing to do with LeBron. It's a personal thing for themselves. Right. Because we

look at D-Lo when they play Milwaukee at home. D-Lo goes for 44. Incomplete control. Making three. Boom, boom, boom. Last night, he was sensational last night. And you remember, Gil, in the play-in tournament. Nah. Nah, he was sensational last night. And you remember, Gil, in the play-in tournament.

Was it play? No. No, it was they played the Warriors last year. And he come down, the Lakers had this nice lead, and he comes down and turned the ball over like three times in a row, and all of a sudden, Golden State is making a comeback. And without hesitation, he comes down on a one-on-four and lets the three go, gets the game back.

I'm like, bro, you just played like two minutes of the worst basketball in the history of the NBA, and then you come down with ice. I'm talking about freezing water in your veins and let a three go with a one-on-three. And usually he would have been subbed out by then with the three turnovers and it would have ruined his mental. They couldn't. They couldn't get him out again.

Yeah, right? He would have been, get on up out of here. But the fact that he did take that three kind of lets you know mentally where he's at. Yes. We just needed more. We need the relentless. We need the ice vein D-load when we come to the playoffs. And so far, we haven't had that guy against Denver.

Right. I think the thing is, Gil, I think once the trade deadline came and went, he was able to relax. Because he's been sensational. This might be the best stretch of basketball other than the year that he went to

the All-Star game when he was in Brooklyn. This might be the best stretch of basketball that he's played. And he's a good player. I mean, he's... There's something about them left-handed guys, man. They got that herky-jerky, man. I mean, they start, stop, and they smooth with it. They got the float game going. I mean, he's been unbelievable.

Yeah, him and AD pick and roll is phenomenal. Yes. And that's why I said last week if I'm playing against moving into the playoffs, I want Anthony Davis and D'Lo to play like Murray and

Jokic and let LeBron find a way on how to be dominant. Right. You know, the Anthony Davis, LeBron pick and roll, that ain't the style right now. Right. That ain't it right now. You know, the Anthony Davis, LeBron pick and roll, that ain't the style right now. Right. That ain't it right now. So you need that guy who can probe and do all that

and find people. So I'm liking where D'Lo is right now. Yeah, I think they had seven or eight guys in double figures. Rui, LeBron, D'Lo, Prince, Hayes, Denwiddie, Reeves. So they had seven guys. All the guys that played at least 10 minutes, Gil, had double-figure points. Yeah, all the

good players. Everybody who don't supposed to be playing didn't score like should be. But you look at Jackson, Hayes gave him quality minutes tonight. Torian Prince played really, really well. Dinwiddie came up. Dinwiddie,

he's been getting it going lately. He's been getting it going lately. He's been getting it going. I like to see that. He's found his way. We're really going to need him in the playoffs to be the one-on-one guy who can create offense when there's basically a

stalemate against that defense. When they're cutting players off. When they're focusing on AD, you know, Reeds can't get it on. We have a guy who can create one-on-one mismatch problems. So, you know, I did like that pickup by them. Yeah, and he's played well. He's played well.

This was a very good win for the Lakers. They followed it up. They consolidated in the tennis. They say when you break a say, when you break serve, can you consolidate it on your own serve? Can you win that game on your serve? Now you've done something. Now you go two games up

as opposed to losing the serve after you just broke serve. So they were able to consolidate this win. Win a big game against Milwaukee on the road. Go on the road again. Actually, it was a back-to-back. It was a back-to-back, yeah. And think about all the minutes that Reeves played,

all the minutes that Dinwiddie played, all the minutes that D'Lo played, Rui, and they were still able to come back and give you a great effort tonight. I like what I'm seeing for the Lakers. We'll see if they can flip the switch, they get a night off, get some rest, get some food in them, and let's see if they can follow it up, they get a night off, get some rest, get some food in them, and let's see if they can follow it up, get five in a row on Friday night.

No, no, yeah. Listen, this is one of those stretches where this is a favorable schedule for us towards the end of the season. We have some winnable games, and even some of the tough teams, they might be resting players at that moment in time. So I like our schedule right now.

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Clippers hold on for the win. Sixers coach Nick Nurse and Kelly Oubre were furious that a no foul was called on the final possession. Kelly Oubre called a referee female dog, and he's about to get a hefty fine for that choice of words. Ty Lue called the Clippers soft after that demolition job that they got. Who'd that beat them? Indy.

Indy beat the brakes off them the other night. Let's listen to the sound of what he had to say last night, and then you and I will get into the game tonight. So identity, you know, for us, it's got to be toughness, which means physicality, mentally and physical toughness. A high-powered offense, we can score a lot of different ways. And we got to have a defensive mindset. And so right now, do we have an identity

um i think yeah we're soft i can be an identity if you want to call it that ouch the game tonight it seemed like the sixers had the game and then kawai makes two outstanding plays on back-to-back possessions and then they make key defensive stops down the stretch. What did you like about what you saw from the Clippers? And what did the Sixers do wrong? Let's just say the final minute and a half of this ballgame. What I like about the Clippers? Nothing.

They the flippin'. I mean, this war's forever, right? They're up and down right now. I know they're still, which was weird, they're probably trying to find their playoff swag, trying to figure out who's going to be in that seven, eight-man

rotation going into the playoffs because this is when you find out who's who and who you're going to take with you that first round. So I'm pretty sure for Ty Lue, they're not being as assertive as he would like in this moment of time, but I'm not really worried about them. In a sense that Kawhi is going to turn it on, PG is going to turn it on. Russ is going to be mentally there.

James Harden is going to do what James Harden does. So they're going to be one of those teams that you don't want to see. Because you don't know what they're going to bring. Philly's missing their best player. Right? Yeah. That game's not even close with Joel Embiid. Yeah.

But when you're missing your best player, you know, you're trying to... You know, players are trying to get calls that you haven't earned, right? Oof, you're oobery. That's not a call. You're not getting that call in the club. You're not getting that call.

So, you know, it does get frustrating when you don't have your MVP, your all-star, your all-NBA player, the best player in the league, on that court to actually demand those type of calls. So, you know, Philly did whatever Philly could do. They had the game, and they just didn't make the, they didn't get the love that they needed to pull that win out.

Yeah, they thought they'd get some more calls at home. The thing with Kelly Oubre, I don't understand. You're up by two. So if Kawhi Leonard lays the ball up, you're still tied. Why would you run the risk of fouling him in an A-1 and now you're down? Guys, let me ask you a question.

I know I'm thinking about that as third down, blah, blah, blah because, you know, like, okay, what's more important? Instead of getting an extra four yards, let me get out of bounds and save time on the clock. So I was thinking in those situations. I'm picking and choosing my battles.

Sometimes you have to know when the journey is over. But I'm thinking like, bro, what are you doing? Why would you foul up by two and run the risk of giving up an and one? Sometimes players are not in there in real time. two and run the risk of giving up an and one. Sometimes players are not in there in real time. Sometimes players don't, they don't have no court awareness. Right? They don't know what

the time says or what the score is. Right? I think Clay did it. Was it Clay that did it about a month ago where he filed in the back court, he filed in the back court and they're like, what are you doing? Sometimes you just, you're not there.

You do right. You just plan not realizing you might think that you're down one when it's tie game or you're up to, you know, sometimes that, that does happen in games when you, you, you really don't, you forgot to look up there to, you know, to see what it is. LeBron and them in the finals where they got the offensive rebound. Oh, man.

Oh, you talk about J.R. Yeah, but you blame everyone. And the reason you blame everyone is J.R. understood. Let's get that rebound. Let's get that rebound. No one thought about the concept of if we actually do get this rebound, call a timeout. So the fact that none of the coaches even thought about calling a timeout, meaning they didn't

think he was going to get that rebound, and he got it. How about putting the ball back in the basket? Listen, sometimes your job is, all right, look, hey, get that offensive rebound, all right? We're going to get the offensive rebound. That's all you're thinking about.

Let me get it. And you're like, oh, I got it. Yes, I got it. Woo! And they're like, yo, put the ball up. Oh, my bad. I didn't even. I think the thing was he thought they were up one

when in actuality they were tied. Yeah. So he thought, I brought it at the clock. Y'all can't get it. Like, it didn't even dawn on him man they not chasing me trying to foul it wasn't until LeBron was yelling at him is that he like what what

what things like that happen you know it's just one of those things it's part of the game right I mean probably they just won one game they mean, probably they'd have just won one game. They'd have just won one. I'll say they'd have just won one game. Instead of getting swept, they'd have lost in five.

That was it. It was James Harden's first game back since being traded. He was booed by the Philly crowd. No surprise with that. I'm trying to think of the guy that could leave and come back and get cheered. Maybe Charles Barkley. I don't remember when Charles went back with the Suns. I don't know.

I don't really know. AI, I think AI got cheered. AI got cheered because, you know, AI got traded. Everybody else was supposed to. Like, Charles Barkley demanded out. So, yeah, we will have to see what happens. We'd have to go back and see the first game, yeah. Draymond Green

was ejected again. We have video of the ejection of Steph's reaction. He was not happy. Let's take a listen to the Steph sound after the game. What did you think of the Draymond ejection? All I said, we need him.

He knows that. We all know that. So whatever it takes to keep him on the floor, he'll be available. That's what's got to happen. Why do we keep having this conversation? Draymond said back in 2016, he had learned his lesson because he cost his team an NBA championship.

Yes. You're no longer going to have to worry about Draymond because I'm never going to. And he potentially cost himself a finals MVP. He didn't clothesline nobody this time. Last night or the other night this time. Last night, almost, this one I don't put on him. I put it more on the ref, this one.

Here's why. He has nothing to do with this play. Right? So why is he talking? This was Paulo throwing his shoulder so he's asking the ref, hey, what about the shoulder? So he's trying to get answers. This is a one-on-one conversation. So it's not like he's asking a ref, hey, what about the shoulder? So he's trying to get answers. This is a one-on-one conversation.

So it's not like he's yelling at the ref loud, right? Yeah. Whatever he's saying is him and the referee. So the referee giving him a technical, you can't use that he was upstaging me at this point. So no matter what he's saying to you, it's private. You decide to give him a technical. Right?

The one I don't like. Because when we do this up right here, you see this right here? Oh, you best believe it's going down under that shirt. Right? But refs don't usually give that technical because you're not making him look stupid

in front of the world. So him getting that tech by the ref, it was like, oh, come on, ref. You didn't need to do that. And then that's what happens. He's asking, why are you giving me? What did I do? What did I say for you to do that? What was the point of that?

And then when he's walking away, you know, he hit him with the BSN. All right. Hit him with the BSN alright but here's the thing though Gil why would Draymond he's their worst negotiator facts do you realize Gil do you realize

if the officials if any other player within the officials face yelling like Draymond they would get tossed on a nightly basis. He knows that he's going to get a little leeway because they're going to give that, this is just Draymond. But I don't get their fight.

Now, maybe they don't want to go to the playoffs. I can see them losing a couple more games and Steve Kerr shutting Steph Curry down for the rest of the year. I can see it. Yes. I can see it. Yes. I can see, I can totally see that happening. If I believe if the Rockets ever catch them, and I don't know when we came on,

Williams hit a three to send the game into overtime. And last I saw, I thought the Rockets were up a couple of games, so they might be a half game back, or they might be a full game and a half back. But I don't know what the end of that game, what it did. Did the Rockets hold on and win? The Rockets won. Okay.

So now the Rockets have won 10 straight in overtime, and they're only one game behind the Wizards for the 10th spot. Excuse me, one game behind the Warriors for the 10th spot. I can see a scenario that if the Rockets catch the Warriors for that 10th spot, they're not going to fight for it. They're like, okay, hey, Steph, you're done.

Let's get a look at Kaminga. Let's get a look at Moody and some of these other guys. Yeah, this team needs to build confidence for next year. I don't see anything. I don't see a reason to keep forcing your stars to play right now. I would have that conversation with Steph of, what do you want to do? If I'm going to keep Clay, we're going to pay Clay.

I need to make sure his mental is right for next year. So I need him to go out there and play. I need Kaminga to go out there and do what Kaminga does. Moody, all the young guys that I'm possibly going to need for next year. This is the time where I need them to gain some ground. But this is the NBA. You start doing that, they're going to start investigating, tampering with the record and stuff.

So there's rules right now. So there's rules right now. Look, Draymond, when it comes to the overall functionality of the team, he's the most important part, and he makes all the pieces work together. So, yeah, you know, when Steph say we need him, he's right. You know, yeah, you can't get objective four minutes into the game, Gil. Damn. Well, you don't expect the refs to be this sensitive four minutes into the game, though.

Like, come on. Like, that's four minutes into the game. You already giving out texts. But here's the thing. He's not asking, hey, Mr. Ref. Now, you show them. You see he's highly agitated. There's a difference. Hey, it's one way to, hey.

Hey, but man, check this out. The pump three, it took my credit card, and I wasn't able to pump the gas. That's different than going to aim, bofo. That pump three, they ate my credit card. Now, what y'all going to do about it? That's Draymond. Draymond said, hey, what about his shoulder into my chest?

What about that? You ain't call that, but you call that ticky-tack BS right there. It's definitely like Draymond. Draymond, come on, Dray. But it's not right now. It's the value. Listen, I've always been taught, you know, by coaches, don't worry about the volume of the tone. Try to figure out what I'm saying. Because in the heat of the moment,

my volume's going to go higher than I would like it to. Right. You know, understand what I'm trying to say before you react. Same thing with a referee, right? I think referees, like I really have this thing

against referees because you have too much power and you're using it too often. You're supposed to have the thickest skin because you're just repping the game. You don't even have to be a basketball fan. You don't need to have a favorite team to ref these games. So you should never be in tech mode or get so heated in the moment that you need to kick people out. Gil, at the

end of the day, he human. Humans have feelings. They have emotions. It's just like you. Your girl would come home and say, hey, Gil, how was your day? Where you been? As opposed to, hey, where the fuck where you been, Gil? It's all about them. She's asking you the same thing.

One, you're more likely to say, well, we had practice. After practice, I stopped by the guy. We played some Nintendo's. Then I came home. She asked you, where the F you been? You go like, you go elevate your tone right back at her. So the official like, bro, hold on, whoa,

it's too early. It's like early in the morning. I ain't trying to have that conversation at seven o'clock. I just woke up and you yelling and screaming talking about

why my phone going off or who calling you this early in the morning. I don't know because I was asleep. So how the hell you expect me to answer that question? I guarantee you this ref who gave it is one or three years into the league.

I've been there where the game started and I'm already on one. And the ref was like, yo, it's two minutes into the game. Shut up. And I have to look up like, oh, it is two minutes into the game. I'll see you in the third quarter then. God damn it. But that's the dialogue, too. Like, just sometimes we just, too many Red Bulls will start the game off.

Do you think the Rockets will catch the Warriors for the last player spot in the West? They, you know, they playing well, man. Them young boys getting it. They playing well. They don't, they're missing, they playing well, man. Them young boys getting it. They playing well. They don't, they're missing, they're missing the player. They could get it, right? You know, I don't want to put nothing past them. They playing well.

They got nothing to lose. And I think if it's going down to those last games, it'd be more pressure on Golden State to get that 10th spot than the Rockets. Right. So. Wake up with football every morning and listen to my new podcast, NFL Daily with Greg Rosenthal. Five days a week, you'll get all the latest news, previews, recaps,

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All right, Gil, it's time for our next segment of the night, and it's called a news cap. News, here we go. Jamal Crawford thanks the Lakers to trade Anthony Davis. Let's take a listen to what Jamal had to say. Here we go. We need to break up a roster. Which team could benefit the most from breaking up the roster, the Lakers or the Warriors?

I'm going to choose Lakers because Golden State have been there and done that. LeBron is trying to add some more to his legacy, so I'm going to help him out. Got to get rid of Reeves. Give me another guy that can do that, but a guy that's a little more consistent. I'm not saying Reeves is inconsistent, but when you're playing and winning for a championship, you can have no inconsistency. I'm going to use Reeves because Reeves is a talent. I'm going to get me one more veteran, and I got to get three or four shooters. I'm with Shaq.

They don't have enough to even compete right now. And my thing is, if LeBron's still your best player at this point, I'm looking at trading Anthony Davis. Oh, no. I'm not trading that dude. I'm just telling you, you can get four or five pieces to go with him that fit LeBron if LeBron's still going to be the best player. But really, if I can get a Kyrie Irving type, they need another wing, a dominant wing scorer.

Yeah. I'll try to... Okay. So are you going to trade... Oh, so I'll trade Anthony Davis to... I'll trade to okay so are you going to trade oh so I'll trade Anthony Davis to I'll trade Anthony Davis to to Boston for

can we get Przingis and Jason Tatum I mean who what what what wing players you going to get

for Anthony who going to trade what wing players that win right now that you can put with Anthony Davis that a team is going to give up Jason Tatum is right now that you can put with Anthony Davis? That a team's going to give up?

Jason Tatum? Has anybody given up? You think Boston's giving up Jason Tatum? No. There's a reason certain people can't be GMs. And those... Woo! Woo! Boy, it started off with Shaq, right?

Like, even his like you're gonna give up Austin Reeves to get somebody more consistent than Austin Reeves at Austin Reeves price he's 53 million dollars who you're gonna get rid of to get somebody more consistent than Austin Reeves the last 21 games he's 10 10 more points or plus. He's been double-digit scoring for the last 21 games. See, that's that TNT ESPN. He ain't watching the games. He's looking at the box score. If you want to trade Alston Reeves,

this is who he's compared to at the same price. Talon, Horton, Tucker. No, they already got rid of him. Joe Ingles, Dennis Schroeder, Marvin Bagley, Gary Harris, Josh Hart.

They all make the same amount of money. Who are you going to trade them for then? Shaquille O'Neal? Nobody. Yeah. See, here's the thing. When they propose these trades, who are you trading them to and what are you trading them for?

It's easy to say, and that's what we used to have like, such and such should have made the Pro Bowl or such and such should have made the All-Star game. If you put somebody in, you've got to take somebody off. Well, I say, well, you can't put him in. I say, because if you put somebody in, you're telling me somebody that made it shouldn't have made it in front of him.

So you're saying he should have made it. Who are you taking off? Okay, you're trading off the read. So that's what I want to say. If you're going to trade somebody, you've got to tell me who you're trading him to and who are you trading Austin Reed. So that's what I want to say. If you're going to trade somebody, you got to tell me who you're trading him to and who are you trading him for. Because just to say, oh, I would trade Anthony Davis. For who?

For what? For where? I'm going to trade Anthony Davis to get back, what, you said for Kyrie? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Kyrie. Give Dallas goddamn Anthony Davis and him and Luca Shit So now you're going to put

Anthony Davis with Luca the master of the pick and roll That's what you're going to do But that's why That's why It's easy There's no concept of the thought It's not like they put thought into it They just ramble

I'm going to get rid of a shooter A point guard a score to get back shooters veteran players who what team what team giving up shooters no one it's the answer the answer was golden state golden state is that uh a problem where Steph is still playing at a very high level. Yes, the help is not playing very well right now. So they need to make some real decisions on what they're going to do. Are they going to try to go for another title and trade some pieces? Or are they going to break this team up, let Steph retire, and just play his last days, you're scoring a whole bunch of points. That's the real answer right there.

When it comes to, as long as you got Anthony Davis and LeBron James, for the most part, you have a chance. You have a chance. You still got two dominant players. You got one guy offensively and defensively. How are you going to match that?

When you say, yes, Anthony Davis? Who are you getting back that's playing? Giannis? Okay, I'll trade AD for Giannis. I'll trade AD for maybe a Joel Embiid because those are the only comparable guys that are offensive

and defensive guys that are giving you what Anthony Davis gives you on a nightly basis. Now, we know Giannis is 30 and 11 and two or three blocks. We know Joel Embiid, he's hurt, but Joel Embiid was giving you 35, 11, and two. Those are the only comparable guys. So who's giving you that kind of production like Anthony Davis is giving you on a nightly basis with that kind of defensive presence? Who?

Like, if I'm going to lose a little bit of defense, I'll gain a little bit more offense. So I'll make a trade for Sabonis because I get more passing. But I don't think Sacramento is going to do anything like that. That's why I said they just throw out shit. But, OK, we got more passes. Who we gonna pass it to? Ain't like we got a 15-step Curry knocking it down or Young Clay.

I mean, have we shot the three ball better since the All-Star break? Yeah. Oh, hell yeah. We've been shooting the cover off the ball. Well, come on now. A.D.? Yeah, that's what I said. But it was just two bad takes. That's all it was.

Everybody thought into it. Can't blame them. Hold on. LeBron doesn't look like a player in his 21st season in the NBA. He's out there on the court, but that doesn't mean he doesn't feel it after the game. On his Mind the Game podcast, LeBron built the analogy

he used when talking to his wife, Savannah James, his wife, asked him how he felt after a game. Let's take a listen to how LeBron answered her. I was explaining to my wife the other day. She asked me, how am I feeling when I came home after a game? I said, babe, just imagine buying a 2003 Escalade and it's 2024 and you never change the tires. So rub my feet, please. Bro, I said, the dog, the dog, babe, the dog barking. Hey, can you rub him down? Can you ice him down for me because if these things hurt and I can understand because those feet

have carried him for 23 seasons as he mentioned up down start stop sprinting yeah yeah I could just I could just imagine man I know how Gil I know how i feel after i sit down for a period of time so can you imagine he's still playing 35 36 minutes on a nightly basis in year 21 39 years of age do you people like 35 minutes that's nothing but we've never seen anybody at that age that's asked to do what he's been asked to do play look at all the guys if you have average of all the guys that's asked to do what he's been asked to do. Look at all the guys. If you average up all the guys that's ever played 21 seasons or more, LeBron James has scored more

points than all of them combined. In a season. So, what do you think about what LeBron had to say? I'm sure. I'm sure that, you know, that he is sore,

right? But I noticed something way back when he was younger. There was always this thing about icing. Young players, yes, but what you icing for a young fella? You ain't even played long. At 19, 20 years old, he was nice on all his limbs.

He had his feet in the bucket. Knees, elbows, like back. Which players, the 2025, we wasn't icing like that, right? So the fact that he has been in the same same routine you can see you know why he has longevity but for the most part he is the last one out of the arena because he's going to ice he's going to stretch down he's probably going to get a massage go get a workout and then be and then go home right? These players are really taking care of their body.

I'm not going to lie. I remember when Carmelo came into our locker room. We're playing Denver. He comes into the locker room and he's like, he needs to use the ice tub. I'm like, oh, he ain't playing.

Ah! Right? And he goes in the ice tub and I was like, you ain't playing today? He's like he needs to use the ice tub hello he ain't playing right and he goes in the ice tub and i was like you ain't playing today he's like yeah like what's your nice stuff for he says uh to make my my legs feel lighter he said all the traveling and stuff you know you he said all the blood is flowing down it makes my legs. So I use the ice and then I let them throw out naturally. He said, I don't go in the heat because the blood travels to where the heat is. And I didn't know that after I see mellow good, I started doing that.

Right. And it's just, you start picking up these little tricks from players, you know, mellows younger. So someone taught him that. Then I started doing it and then started really taking stretching serious.

So, you know, these guys are really taking care of their body a lot longer, right? You're looking at KD at his age. Look how he's playing. Steph at his age. Look how he's playing. So, you know, they looking better than the previous era. We're just talking about the 2010s.

The 2005s and stuff. Look how they look. Even somebody like Chris Paul. We're not even realizing Chris Paul is old as hell. And he's still out there moving at a high rate still. Yeah, I remember when I first got into the league and I saw all the old guys getting in the cold tub. I said, man, what the hell y'all doing?

They was like, oh, don't worry about it, Sharp. You'll be here one day. I was like, man, please. Yep, I sure was. It didn't take me long. So I started icing before practice. After practice, what we did, Gil, we did what we call contrast. We get in the cold tub for a minute before the game.

Cold tub, hot tub, cold tub, hot tub, cold tub, hot tub, shower. Hey, that blood really circulating. We ready to go. But you're absolutely right. Once you understand, because when you know better, you can do better. And so now all the guys that's coming, all you got to do is look at the guys that's still playing at a high level, look at what they're doing to maintenance, but get the talent.

Because you might not be as talented, but obviously you're in the league, so you are talented, but how can I maximize my time in the league? How can I cut down on the injuries while I'm in the league? And you look at guys, and that's, you know, that cold, those

ice in your knees, and being in the cold tub, and taking care of your body getting massages doing pilates taking yoga do it the way you eat i was uh i brought i started the trend because i started bringing my food to work back in 93. and people like man what you because i said that those people they cooking for a hundred people they putting salt and all that i say i know what's in here. I know how much protein, how much carbohydrate, how much salt. I know all the magnesium.

I know everything that's in that food. See, they feeding 100. I'm eating for one. Did your brother teach you that? Nope. I always had a mentality of a bodybuilder. Gil, in my first three years, I ate fast food every meal, breakfast, lunch, and dinner.

I mean, I stopped by, I get sausage biscuits or I go by Burger King, I get them French toast sticks. I mean, then I go get McDonald's or I get Kentucky Fried Chicken. I would eat just, and I would just let,

man, everybody was looking like, man, damn, Sharp. You eat like that? Man, you see how you built? I had like 7%, eight percent body fat and somebody uh i had a cousin that was a bodybuilder he said cuz you ought to just like for like a month eat healthy and see what you could look like that's a guy i was hooked i mean i mean i mean seven body fat, I went down to like 5. Oh, man. Okay. So, and I've always, I've always been, people are like, when did you start?

I've always been like this. I've always had this body. It was just thinner. You know, I was 180 pounds, but I was chiseled. And even as I got to 205, 215, 225, I was still chiseled. Even as I got to 230, 245, I walk around, now I'm heavy. Now I'm probably like 250, 255,

which is I'm going to get my black ass back down to like 240. That's too heavy. I'm carrying too much muscle. I don't need to carry muscle like that. But I felt better. And see, people don't realize I played the lion's share of my career

at 228 pounds as a wide receiver playing tight end. Okay, okay. So Calvin Johnson and Julio Jones and Brandon Marshall and all those guys weighed more than I did. And they played Terrell Owen

and they played wide receiver. They weighed more than I did. But you got to have a mindset to be the idea to bang those girls. You got to have a mindset. They're going to win something, but you ain't going to whip my ass all day. I'm going to get me some of these. I'm going to get some lickbacks. I just want y'all to know, I'm going to get my lickback.

I'm going to get a lick here and there. Y'all can win y'all's share, but I'm going to tell y'all linebackers and safeties to add something when they go out on the pass route. Yeah, like For people to understand like a LeBron James right now, a Kevin Durant, a Curry, we all take our cars to get them

serviced at 3,000 miles. LeBron and Katie and them, they're probably getting their car serviced at 1,500 miles or 1,000 miles. They're not waiting 3,000, hating them they're probably getting their their car service at 1500 miles or 1000 miles yeah they're not they're not waiting three thousand four thousand five most of us i just got listen i just got my car oil change and i was 1500 miles over the 3000 miles oh i i got a change

at 4500 miles right and that's how I was with my body. I'm waiting until I'm hurting, hurting before I go to it. These guys are not even getting to that point, right? They're getting to the engine light about to turn, and then they're filling it up. They're not letting their gas tank go past empty. Someone told me that about a car. He said, never let your engine go to the empty because the stuff that sits at the bottom of the gas

tank, that kind of messes up your stuff. So always, don't let it go past, you know, 25% before you fill it up. Always keep that high octane. Never get to the end where it's running. He said, never let your engine run on that. He said,

hey, treat it like a race car. You got a pit car. Yep. You got to pit stop. Hey, you know what I'm saying? Hey, I'm going 70 miles, and I'm going to get a new set of tires. I'm going to get some gas. I'm going to have a guy clean the window. I'm going to have to do all that.

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