Club Shay Shay - Nightcap - Hour 1: Lamar Jackson & Ravens lose in a nail biter to Patrick Mahomes & Chiefs

Episode Date: September 6, 2024

Shannon Sharpe and Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson react to Patrick Mahomes and the Kansas City Chiefs defeating Lamar Jackson and the Baltimore Ravens in Week 1 of the NFL season, and Dak Prescott's ongoing... contract dispute with the Dallas Cowboys.02:30 - Show starts04:00 - Chiefs escape Ravens by inches41:20 - Chiefs Superfan jailed48:55 - Cowboys and Dak contract01:02:10 - Belichick joins instagram(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:05:13 We're gonna have a winner or loser one way or another because John harbaugh had already decided said I'm going for two So we were gonna have a winner or loser at the end of regulation unfortunately replay said all plays all So we were going to have a winner or loser at the end of regulation unfortunately replay said all plays all scoring plays and turnover plays are reviewed and No touchdown. So that's how close we came to having even the Ravens potentially win this game in regulation by going getting this late last second touchdown and Going for two and winning but he was out likely played an unbelievable game. The bar was sensational when it needed to be.
Starting point is 00:05:48 He missed one throw. I'm sure he would like to have that throwback. Does he have flowers? Yeah, does they? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's the one he loved to have back. But he was 28. No, he was 26 and 41, 273.
Starting point is 00:06:00 One touchdown is no interception. 16 rushes, 122 yards. We know the Ravens are gonna run the football. 16 rushes, 122 yards. We know the Ravens are going to run the football. 30 rushes, 185 yards. This is what they do. We know what their cable are doing. But the Chiefs opened up their season in defense of their back to back Super Bowls with a 27-20 win. Patrick Mahomes, 20 of 28, 291, one touchdown, one interception. He was sacked twice. Rashid Rice, seven catches, a buckle, three.
Starting point is 00:06:27 Xavier Worthy, two catches, 47 yards, a 35 yard touchdown. And a run, how far was that run? 21 yards where he showed you his speed, Ocho. What did you, watching this game, very exciting game, Ocho, what were some of your takeaways? Listen, the game was very exciting. Just the thought that we're getting a repeat of that AFC game from last year. I'm hyped. I'm ready. So again, when the game started, guess who ruined
Starting point is 00:06:53 the game for me at the beginning? Because now the referees, the zebras, you're overdoing it. Okay. You ask the tackles to step up a little bit. You call it you call you call it one time. OK, bet. Then you call it again. Then you call it a third time. Oh, they call the motherfucker. I'm sorry. My bad. My bad. Let me stop. Sorry. I apologize. I apologize. I was kind of hot about that.
Starting point is 00:07:22 The referees were making it more about them than the actual game itself on the first series. That was very agitating, it was very aggravating. Let them boys play ball. The tackle being slightly off from the guard, slightly off gives him no advantage or no disadvantage. Oh yeah, it does, it gives him a huge advantage. That's why he lines up like that. And you see the tackle jump into count.
Starting point is 00:07:46 You see how they jump into count. They're going before the snap of the ball. That's a huge, that's why they get back like that, Ocho. I don't really think is it, what advantage is it? How can it be an advantage? Because I want to close, I want it farther away. I don't want you up on me. I don't want you one move.
Starting point is 00:08:03 I want to be able to kick it now. I'm free I'm a yard. I'm two yards three yards away from you But oh Joe if I'm on the line and you beat me I'm done see but I'm thinking about it differently If you if we're a little closer that gives me a better opportunity to engage and use my hands I don't want to engage right now. Not on the path, not on the path. Russia. We don't want to engage right now.
Starting point is 00:08:29 You want, you want him to show you his move. Right. So then and then engage. There you go. There you go. Okay. I see. I see.
Starting point is 00:08:38 Because if you, if you too close, Ocho, I can't see what you're going to do. Are you going to come inside? There might be a game. I'll need to be able to pass it off. If it's a game, a TE or ET, I can pass it off and I can still be able to catch the D tackle or whomever is looping around. On a stunt.
Starting point is 00:08:54 Okay, okay. Yes, yes, yes. So it's a huge advantage. And the competition made it a point of emphasis because last year they were doing the same thing and they were jumping the count. So the tackles know that they absolutely know. Yeah. Okay. Okay. When you, when you, when you put it that way, I just, I just thought, even though they made it a point of emphasis, um, I just think it kind of got in the
Starting point is 00:09:16 way of the game. It got in the way of the flow of the game, allowing the offensive, the offense, the Ravens offense to do what they needed to do. The chief didn't get the call at all. I'm not sure. I didn't really pay attention to the offensive line to see if they're if their tackle did the same thing or not But other than that the game was good I I'm on both sides of the ball listen a little sloppy in the first half though. Yeah It was a little sloppy in the first half I was trying to figure out at what point where the Raven defense gonna make some goddamn Adjustments because because we she writes
Starting point is 00:09:45 Catch the same goddamn shallow Zora route on the mismatch against the linebacker over and over he got a hundred goddamn yours all shallows Hey Like what are we doing? If you're a defensive player, you never let the offensive guy cross your face That's rule number one But even even if even we talk about we talk about linebackers, even if they do try to stop him, he's still going to be able to get there because athletically he's a little bit more gifted and faster than all of them anyway. I get the Zorro route because that Zorro route is basically unstoppable.
Starting point is 00:10:15 You talk about somebody that ran a bunch of the holes. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Because here's the thing. When I stop and I start this way, here you go trying to get it. And now I'm going back that way. The other way. Or the same thing with a whip, Ratocho. You know, when you go out there and you whip back in, more times than not, you're gonna be wide open. But I just thought the thing was that
Starting point is 00:10:35 it's very tough on a linebacker, but you know, where am I vulnerable? Because if I give up the inside, I ain't got no sideline. At least I can use the sideline as my second defender and I can push his ass out of bounds. I let him inside. Well, I hope the safety's come because that's at bare minimum, a first down and Rashid Rice like to get, if that's Xavier worthy, I'm not so sure they drag him down, Ojo. I'm not so sure they drag him down. Oh Joe right now. I'm not so sure they drag him down
Starting point is 00:11:07 But uh Can you see me? They say they say you're blurry my camera blurry. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Yeah, not Is that better? He hey, hold on, you know, I put your hand up sort of refocus put your hand up sort of refocus For the back you need come for the back back like like here right in front of your face. Look for the. Yeah. Still out of focus. He's still blurring. He's still out of focus.
Starting point is 00:11:40 You know, I bought this camera from my homeboy and I had open locker. He was trying to tell you $20. And he he got he got over you. Well, she was still in the box, though. Hold on, hold on. We got to get this right before we finish. And I got I got a lot to talk about. I'm happy than a motherfucker.
Starting point is 00:11:59 Is it still blurry? Getting better. That's in the dark. Do I seem? It does. How come it don't look blurry to me? We're good, Ocho. Hey, hey, hey, shout out to my homeboy, Joe Khan got me this twenty dollar Sony Sony a seven, a seven to my homeboy, Joe Khan got me this $20 Sony, Sony A7, A7 II
Starting point is 00:12:27 and open locker for $20. Well, I appreciate you, boy. We lie, we lie, we lie. But anyway, it was a good game tonight. I really enjoyed it. Chiefs offense looks good. Xavier Worthy. Xavier Worthy.
Starting point is 00:12:39 Listen, a little miscommunication between the defense on the second touchdown from Worthy. You know, um, God damn, what's his, what's 44, what's 44? Marlon Humphrey. Marlon Humphrey thought he had safety help. He thought he had safety help cause he saw Pacheco come out in the backfield and he stayed right in the flat. Safety, no communication.
Starting point is 00:12:59 Say that, damn Pacheco. Hey, easy touchdown, easy touchdown for God damn Worthy. But one of the things I saw with Worthy when he got that God damn reverse, he runs so smooth. He runs so smooth and he accelerates with no indication that he's moving faster than he is. I don't know, for some reason,
Starting point is 00:13:22 the way you run straight up, you run tall, it reminds me of Marcus Allen, for some reason the way you know you run straight up you run tall it remind me of Marcus Allen For some reason it remind me of Marcus Allen. He moving. I'm not saying Marcus Allen was that fast I'm saying no matter his gate his gate the way you run his style of running the like Marcus Allen But that boy were moving boy. Oh, yeah, well, obviously the thing is Oh Joe is that what you want to see when a guy's time that fast Yeah, does he play that fast right now? You know now you have your answer. Yeah, he played fast. Yeah We've seen guys that can time fast, but don't play fast
Starting point is 00:13:56 We see guys that play fast that didn't time fast especially was a prime example Jerry Rice did not time fast. Yeah. M.X. Smith did not time fast. Right. I did, but he played fast. There's a reason why when you get 22,000 yards. Yeah. Oh.
Starting point is 00:14:15 You got 200 plus touchdowns. Yeah. For a reason. And you don't run four, four, four, three. Jerry clock four, six, eight. Hold on. Remember what I ran at the combine? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:27 You were the tick above me. But this is the thing. I play extremely fast, much faster. Yes. Listen, the game of football, this is why I don't understand why so many people are always caught up in the 40 yard dash. He runs for two, he runs for three,
Starting point is 00:14:43 he runs for four, he runs for five. It he runs for a four, he runs for a five. It really doesn't matter because the game of football is not playing a straight line. Now, to have that weapon of having speed in your arsenal, that is a great thing. But once you're able to be able to understand coverages, understand leverage, understand what you need to do to be able to get open within the timing
Starting point is 00:15:03 of the offense that you're in, oh man, you good. Just if you do have speed to go along with that. That is awesome But it's really not a necessity. You see tyreek Remember when tyreek first got in yes, they would only use tyreek as gadgets Yes, sir. They let him run points back kickoff back. Mm-hmm. Tyreek taught himself how to run the routes Oh, yeah, it was a rat now the the guy's gonna go to the Hall of Fame. It was a rat. And Xavier, I'm not saying Xavier Worth is going to be Tyreke Hill, but with that kind of speed, he already has something
Starting point is 00:15:34 that everybody in the NFL is fearful of. And that's because I can't teach you that I can teach you how to run route. I can teach you how to drop your hips, Ocho. I can teach you. I can teach you nuances to get you open. can teach you how to drop your hips, Ocho. I can teach you, I can teach you nuances to help get you open. If you can run fast, then you can. Yeah, I mean, how would you know the other day?
Starting point is 00:15:52 You know what's funny? I don't think, well, I think maybe the casual fans do understand or the fans that are in the chat or the people that actually watch the game before. You need to understand that the entirety of the NFL at the skill position, everybody is fast. I wonder if you understand that. Everybody is fast.
Starting point is 00:16:11 And then you have Xavier worthy. Then you have cheetah. Then you have people like, who am I leaving out? Who am I leaving out? Huh? Who am I leaving out? Oh, Raheem Mostert. Raheem Mostert.
Starting point is 00:16:22 Yeah. Now that's. A-chain. A-chain. No disrespect to crackheads, but they crackhead fans. Like they used to say back in the day. Man, them boys moving, man. It's good to see. Listen, I'm so excited. I can't even get my words out. I'm so happy football is back. Yeah. I think everybody so happy football is back. Yeah. It's I think everybody's happy.
Starting point is 00:16:46 Football is back because we we we consume so much of it. And then, you know, then they're like, oh, man, they got a game on again. They got a game on again. And then when it's not there, like with them, when is football coming back? And this is why the insatiable appetite for football, the fans that the NFL tries to give you. They got a game tomorrow night. Oh Joe, they got to go. I can't wait. But I can't tomorrow. Yeah. Eagles, Eagles and Packers.
Starting point is 00:17:10 Yeah. Eagles and Packers. And then you got the full slate of games, uh, uh, Sunday. Wait, don't forget. Wait, wait, wait, don't skip Saturday. We got college football. Oh yeah. Yeah. But I'm saying the NFL. Oh, okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay NFL. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We got we got the next what 12 13 weeks of college football. Right. And we got the next, you know, six months of NFL football. So we have a lot. We're gonna have a lot to discuss. We're gonna have a lot to talk about. There will be some some ups and downs, some ebbs and flows. I'm not concerned about the Ravens. I like what I saw. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:44 I'm surprised that it didn't run Derrick Henry a little bit more than what they ran in, but it's gonna take them some time to get him into the flow of things. I would get out of it too, huh? That goddamn Chris Jones, man. God damn. CJ.
Starting point is 00:17:57 I would listen. He was very, he was very disruptive. He was very disruptive, but they had to keep likely in and mess up the orphans of flow because you had to keep likely in just a chip and help the garden, the goddamn tackle. Cause they couldn't do nothing. When the garden tackle tried to double team Chris Jones, he still got in there and got the strip sack. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:16 He good. He, he, you know what he is? He's really good. He's really good at understanding snap count. Yeah. He's really good at getting skinny. You're talking about a man that's probably almost 300 pounds. But he can get, like Aaron Dollar,
Starting point is 00:18:29 how he can get through there, and he's getting through the guard attack because they try to double it, and he gives you half the man. And he's good with his hands too, man. He's great with his hands. He's really good with his hands. And that's what, and the really good one,
Starting point is 00:18:40 the really good anything, edge rushers, DTs, they can play on edges. Because you never want a man to square you up. Even when you play, when you play a wide receiver, you want to give the man half of you. You never want to give your man your entire chest. And I had a conversation of I saw some things with Kelsey, with Trav. And I said, bro, I called him. I said, bro, what are you doing?
Starting point is 00:19:00 He said, what's going on? Yeah. I said, yeah, I say you give it. I say you give them you give them too much of a yeah. I said, you give him, I said, you give him, you give him too much of a man. I said, you got a pillow on edges. Don't go straight down the middle and let that man put both hands in your breastplate. You got to make him pick a side. You got to give him a shoulder, right? Side one way or another. But if you try to play straight down the man, he can put both hands on you. He's already done his job. Right? If he gets both hands in your chest, he's done his job. There are two receivers that I've seen play
Starting point is 00:19:32 that because of their size, smaller DBs would take advantage of attacking at the point of attack, attacking them first and getting their hands in their chest and most of the time when that happens, you are done. I've never seen, I've never seen anybody like Brandon Marshall and Terrell El Dorado Owens have a DB get in their chest and they still win every time because they want contact.
Starting point is 00:19:59 They can play through contact. They wanna play you. They welcome contact. I've seen Brandon and Tio allow people to jam them initially at the line and they do that pull tug. Yeah. They do the pull tug. I'm like, what the? And be wide open.
Starting point is 00:20:14 And hold on. And the whole point of DB doing the jam is to disrupt the timing of the offense. Yeah. And it still don't work. But here's the thing, Ocho. It still don't work. You know this.
Starting point is 00:20:23 When you jam somebody, you gotta be careful because you can get yourself off balance. And what happens when you get there and I get you like this and I do this or I do that, now I got you off balance. Okay, yeah, okay, okay, okay, okay. But this is the problem. I'm watching film.
Starting point is 00:20:41 So I'm like, okay, I'ma try it in practice. I swear to God, I swear to God that I was over there with the water cooler. Yeah. That I was over there with the water cooler. They too strong, they too strong. I didn't know the amount of strength it took to be able to allow somebody to latch on and to pull and go.
Starting point is 00:21:03 Man, I couldn't even do it. Yeah, you understand what it is? I mean, like with line. Man, I couldn't even do it. Yeah. You understand what it is? I mean, like with linebackers, I'm playing on the edge. Now, if it's a DB or safety, I'm trying to go right down the middle because I want to get my hands on you. Yes, sir.
Starting point is 00:21:14 If I get my hands on you, it's a wrap. It's a wrap. I'm gonna share it to you. And so that's why guys, a lot of guys, they're gonna try to do what the Darius me Ligeria Snead did the direct they don't try what we used to call it freeze because I got you Or or what they call we call feathering So I'm up in a press position Oh Joe, but all I'm doing is dancing because I'm yeah Get your hands. Yeah, I'm doing is feather you wherever you go
Starting point is 00:21:44 I'm shadowing you because I don't want to get with an arm just because I know you're going to grab me and throw me. And so a lot of guys, that's how a corner played me, because they know if I got my hands on me, it was good. That is a wrap. I'm throwing you to the ground. Yeah, you were stronger than everybody else. Huh?
Starting point is 00:21:57 Yeah, I'll throw you to the ground. If you were safe, you're a corner. Oh, you go on the ground. Yeah, you on the ground. If I got my hands on go on the ground. Yeah, you on the ground. If I got my hands on you on the ground. Yeah. Because most of them, they don't take the jersey down like, see you tip the edge of your jersey. Oh yeah, it's already taped in the tuck. That's not what they do. So I can grab out this part of that shoulder pad. Yeah, yeah. On the ground you go on the ground you go.
Starting point is 00:22:28 But yeah, I think look when it's all said and done, both of these teams barring injuries I believe will be here. Lamar played really well tonight. He missed a few throws, but it's early in the season. Yeah. I think he wants back Ocho was that one in the end zone. Does a over than that. What you call them? Patrick Mahomes had a couple of, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:22:49 What I didn't understand, why would Juju, a ball that he could catch like this, why would he try to catch it like this? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think Juju, good receiver, good receiver. No, no disrespect towards him, but people that are natural catches of the ball always position their hands the right way based on which way they're going and which way their body is facing.
Starting point is 00:23:08 That's how you can tell he's not a natural catch of the ball like a Chris Carter or Larry Fitzgerald receivers like that that just know how the hand placement is supposed to be, especially when there's a defender coming behind you that makes you ensure the catch. Because here's the thing, Ocho. When he did like this, and caught it like this, he allowed the DB to come straight through the ball. As opposed to him catching like this, now the DB gotta come through you. Come through him, exactly. Don't, like I said, there are nuances, Ocho, that you can teach somebody,
Starting point is 00:23:39 but if that guy already has that ability. Right, it's already in you. It's already there, you know. I's already in you. It's already there. You know, I always want the guy to play through me to get to the ball. I never want to hit, give him a direct line to the football. And when I, when I let the ball, oh, he's going to go, he's going for the ball, Locho. At that point in time, it's obvious because to get you on the ground, what good if I tackle you an end zone and you got the ball.
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Starting point is 00:28:21 Listen to Spiral on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And the funny thing about it, if you think about it, you have more strength like this, catching the ball like this, as opposed to you do trying to catch it like this, especially with somebody coming full speed behind you. Yes. So that, and there's coming full speed behind you. Yes. So that, and there's a play where they brought a blitz. They brought a corner blitz, Marlon Humphrey. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:52 And Mahomes rushed the throw. If he hits P Ryan, Oh, P Ryan. He's gonna score a touchdown because the D tackle got him manned. Yeah, hold on. P Ryan tripping now. Come on with the one hand now.
Starting point is 00:29:03 Go ahead and go ahead and put both hands out there. I know you talk about to the left side, too. Mm hmm. Yeah. P. Ray, he got to he got to put both hands out there now. You it. But what what what what what's coach tell you? If it touch your hand, you do what? If you get one.
Starting point is 00:29:19 But, you know, everybody want to make the route, want to make a one hand catch. Now, yeah, a lot of guys are ruined now because everybody looking to make that highlight that sports in a kid. Yeah, I don't want I will be on. If I catch a touchdown, I'm bill sports in. Yeah, one hand, I'll be on sports in one or two. I will be on sport. If I get the chance, you know, this one nobody in front of them, right? Oh, the touchdown, they brought the corner blitz.
Starting point is 00:29:40 Yeah. And the D tackle guy, the man. So I'm like,, oh he left. Yeah Hmm. Yeah Watch tape oh Joe. Yes, sir. Look, he's like, okay, we let that one get away I think the thing is what scared him is that Patrick had more times. That's the situation You just get it up. You ain't gotta put no you ain't gotta put no pizzazz on it Right, just get it up because the guy that's got him covered is coming from the inside. Yeah, he ain't gotta put no, you ain't gotta put no pizzazz on it. Just get it up. Because the guy that's got him covered is coming from the inside.
Starting point is 00:30:07 Yeah, and he ain't gonna get there. Oh hell no. He ain't gonna get there. If he does, we need a new running back. That's what, hey, that's what Coach used to say. Hey, Coach, Mike used to tell us all the time, hey, 84, don't worry, hey, don't hold that guy. Because if, hey, if you do your job blocking
Starting point is 00:30:24 and the running back don't get to the hole, it's if you do your job blocking and the running back don't get to the hole, it's not you. We gotta get a new running back. Right. Okay. So in that situation, Mahomes just get it up over the guy. Hey, get a new, and let him run with it. But yeah, I think when it's all said and done,
Starting point is 00:30:38 I think both of these teams look really good tonight. Obviously the Kansas City is feeling well. They get a long, they get a mini bio Joe, cause guess what? They don't play to the following Sunday. So now I get Friday off, Saturday off, Sunday off. He probably have come. Yeah. I did probably get them Friday, Saturday, Sunday off. Come in Monday, Tuesday off again. Let's hit it. Yeah. Back, back, back to work. Yeah. I really enjoyed the game. I really did
Starting point is 00:31:05 Oh sure, it was very very sloppy in the first half again. It's one week So you got you got to remember these going these boys going from playing in no preseason basically Obviously that there were some reps I think but from the Chiefs Andy Reid don't play that when it come to preseason I think so, you know, had that behind the back pass. Yeah. Yeah, but but he ain't got a lot Much behind the back pants. But he ain't got a lot of rips. He ain't got a lot of rips. He ain't got much. Ravens, number ones, they going from zero to a hundred. Week one, we going from zero to a hundred.
Starting point is 00:31:32 They look good. Like you said, they should have used Derrick Henry a little bit more often. But again, with Chris Jones being as disruptive as he was, I understood why they went away from that a little bit. And- Oh Joe, early in the game. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:47 It's 12 minutes in the second quarter. Why did he go for it? Why did Ravens go for it? Punch that ball. The fourth and three or the fourth and four? Yes, get the fourth and three. Yeah, yeah, I remember. Oh Joe, you punt that football.
Starting point is 00:31:58 You make them go 80, 90. You don't get Patrick home to short field. I like that. Hold on. Okay, you do go for it. Why do you do it to the short side of the field? Why do you go for it to the short side of the field when you have all that space over to the left?
Starting point is 00:32:11 If you're gonna use a flowers, when you know as quick as hell, especially in space, why not have them in space and throw the ball to the wide side of the field instead of use a sideline? That's really just a 12th defender for the defense anyway. It make it that much more difficult for yourself. If you are going to go for it, you know, I think analytics would say based on circumstance in the situation, you're not supposed to go for that.
Starting point is 00:32:34 No, you are the best chance because guess what I'm thinking. This game is going to be pretty close. This is a tight because you gave up about it, okay, Lamar threw a pick, Lamar fumble, gave him three points and you turn and you go in front on down the game with short field and gave him another three points. Right. So in a situation like that, you understand,
Starting point is 00:32:57 and I get it, keep Patrick Mahomes, the best way to keep Patrick Mahomes off the field. But if he has his asses on the field, I wouldn't go in 80 and and 90 is 40 or 50. Yeah. Because basically you give him three first downs. He's in field goal range. And with that kicker, they got they got they got they got one of the two or three best kickers in all the football.
Starting point is 00:33:17 Yeah. Top. Yeah. Top three. So with that being said, that's the only thing. But I thought the game, I thought Lamar threw the ball well, and he ran the ball exceptionally well. Likely, like I said, that's the only thing, but I thought the game, I thought Lamar threw the ball well and he ran the ball exceptionally well. Likely, like I said, I always thought likely, and I said this, I remember saying this a couple of years ago, I said, if Mark Andrews wasn't there likely, he could be a pro bow tight end.
Starting point is 00:33:36 Oh yeah, most definitely. He got that kind of ability. Most definitely. He really does. There are some situations that are a little iffy with me and where I wish he was a little bit more aggressive, especially when the ball is in the air like on that goddamn deep ball He let the safety he let the safety out jump him to the deep ball when you may suppose a Jimmy Graham that come on
Starting point is 00:33:53 Man, I told us like he was six post six five Yeah, that deep ball that deep that deep shot Lamar gave him you supposed to come down with that You supposed to come down with that man. Let me get come down with that. Man, let me get this, man. That ain't that ain't nothing but want to on that situation. But you know what, Ocho, he but he made a great play on the ball. Lamar made a great throw. He threw it behind him because Bolton overran the play.
Starting point is 00:34:18 And then there's a great drive. OK, just get him on the ground. That's what that's what Spags going to tell Bolton. At that point in time, they've made a great play. Now let's just get him on the ground. Good one after catch. I'm sure that's what Spags gonna tell Bolton. At that point in time, they've made a great play. Now let's just get him on the ground. Right. Let's just get him on the ground. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:34:32 But Ravens, Paul to 0 and 1, she's go to 1 and 0. Ocho Lamar said if he had the body he has now, the Ravens would have won the AFC Championship game last year. I like that. He said, I wish I was feeling like this body was an AFC championship. FAC championship. We would have won the game with me hurting. I know my legs were good.
Starting point is 00:34:52 We would have won that ish. We would never even had to throw the ball. The Lamar slimming down with that and lock his potential to go to the next level. I like it, I like it. I like it. I think him slimming down means he's moving a lot more elusive. He's a lot more, he's faster.
Starting point is 00:35:11 You know, the more weight you put on the slower you become. I think Lamar is at his most dangerous at a lighter weight, similar to how he was at Louisville. Obviously he's not that small. You have to have some type of muscle. You play in the quarterback position at the highest level. But I think he's right. I think he's not that small. You have to have some type of muscle. Oh, you play in the quarterback position at the highest level. But I think he's right. I think he's right.
Starting point is 00:35:29 What makes, here's the thing though, Lamar, what makes football so unique? Yes. Is that you've been going at this thing for 18, 19 weeks and everybody's beat up. Yeah. And so now you have to bring your best package that particular day. Yes, sir. And that's what makes football so unique, because guess what? Everybody beat the hell up.
Starting point is 00:35:47 Ain't nobody. Hey, nobody feeling like the hell you ever feel. What's the feeling is that the day you go to training camp, you will never feel that fresh again. Yeah. You're right. Trust me. Ever got it with the 14 of them. The best I felt was the first day of training camp. After that. Down here, down here, down here from there, boy. It down here from there.
Starting point is 00:36:13 Training camp. Oh yeah. But, uh, but I look the thing and he took a shot. Oh Joe, he had an opportunity to go out of bounds. I know you do play off talking about, I like that. You didn't like that. I like it. Hell no. No, no, like that I like no hell no
Starting point is 00:36:26 No, no, no, no, no, that's popping those finest, baby. That's pumping those finest That's what i'm talking about. How you set the tone matter of fact you think no He resets the tone lamar jackson don't set the tone Hold on. Hold on. I'm just saying you got to think from I'm i'm thinking about if I was on a ravens team, right? If I an offensive player, I'm a receiver, I'm a lineman, I'm a running back, I'm on the goddamn sideline. And I see him dip that shoulder. Now he peeped at who it was first to understand, okay, is this somebody I can actually take
Starting point is 00:36:57 on and be able to withstand this contact? It was. It was. You wouldn't know lying back and nothing like that. But it was a helmet shot, okay? No, it was a helmet shot. Yeah, a helmet shot. Can I ask you a question though? Yes.
Starting point is 00:37:06 Who fell? But here's the thing. Yeah, Lamar! Put the head down. Let the boys know what time it is, baby. That's Papa Doe's finest, boy. He from the crib. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:14 I like it. We saw Cam. We saw Cam lower the boom on a lot of people. Oh, no. Okay. That's his style of play. Now, Lamar not going to do that. You know Lamar don't play like that.
Starting point is 00:37:22 He did. He dipped the show the whole time. One time he did it on purpose. I told you why he did it. He took That's, that's his style of play. Now Lamar not going to do that. You know Lamar don't play like that. He did. He did the show though. One time he did it on purpose. I told you why he did it. He told me he was going to do it.
Starting point is 00:37:30 He going to set the tone. Oh Joe, you know when the journey is over. Yeah. You got, you got a lot of these things to go. I saw you tweet that too. Yeah. You got, Hey, you got a lot. Hey, I thought I blink on in a minute.
Starting point is 00:37:42 Oh, I see them jokes coming from this side. Oh Joe. I'm here. Yeah Yeah, I definitely put no hands on this. Yeah. Look if it's a fourth down on choke I get it if I'm late in the ball game. I get now you throw caution to the wind, right? Right, right. Oh in the second quarter with 12 minutes to go. Yeah. No, I'm not gonna get you know minutes to go. Yeah, no, I'm not going to get you no unnecessary hit. Yeah. Like you say, he slimmed down now.
Starting point is 00:38:08 His body is he's two or five to ten. Last year he was 230. That 20 pounds difference unnecessarily. Like I said, you have to understand the situation. There are times that Tom Brady knew that he had to like, I give a prime example in the Super Bowl. You see John Elway went head first. Oh, when he's when he did the helicopter? Yeah. Yeah, I remember that.
Starting point is 00:38:27 Go back, but more times than not, he slid. Right. Understanding the circumstances of the situation, where we are, what we need. But other than that, I got no problem with Lamar. I thought he played well. Speaking of Lamar, Lamar also recently sat down with GQ and was asked how he deals with
Starting point is 00:38:45 the hate and criticism while being in the spotlight. Always say people hated Jesus, not to compare myself to Jesus, but if he got hated on and still was a good person, and did not follow through with his purpose, and he did follow through with his purpose, why can't I? You like the dojo? Listen, listen, I like it. I like it because the analogy he uses, the context in which he uses and understanding that he's saying, I'm not Jesus, but we understand the story in the Bible. Now, I would go into Sunday service right now and give you the scriptures on the way they hated on Jesus and give you examples on how they did him back then.
Starting point is 00:39:26 But it's not necessary. And we understand the hate and the criticism that Lamar gets because of the accolades and what he's achieved so far. We understand that we want him to do better in the postseason. We want to do better in the postseason. And he's a two time MVP. So that's what comes with it. Yes, that's what comes with it. Yes. That's what comes with it.
Starting point is 00:39:45 So I understand what he's saying. I don't, I don't like, I don't like the fact that he, he used the word is calling it hate because it's not hate. He just has, he just has to understand for what he's been able to do in such a short amount of time in his career, much more expected of you because of what you've been able to do. You special. So when you're special, this is what comes with it. This is the territory that comes with it. He has to understand that.
Starting point is 00:40:08 That's all. Thank you. At some point, at some point, he gonna get over that hump. He gonna get over that hurdle. Look how long it took Peyton Manning. Look how long it took, hell, John Elway. Took him 14 years.
Starting point is 00:40:24 Hey, listen. I mean, he went to three footballs in his first seven years, but he didn't win any. It took him 14 years to win his first one. It's gonna take some time. It's gonna take some time. But when you're a great player, Ocho, but when you're a great player, you get judged more harsh than if you're not. Much more. And so, y'all don't say that about Josh, but Josh is not an MVP.
Starting point is 00:40:47 Yeah. Yeah. We judge, Lamar gets judged like Tom Brady, like Aaron Rodgers, like Peyton Manning, like John Elway, like Dan Marino. And he should welcome back. Yeah. Because that's the company you want to be in, the elite of the elites. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:02 So you're going to get critiqued a lot harsher. Differently, much differently. Yes. Because they, the greater the expectations, the harsher the critiques. Yeah, I think Lamar needs to understand. And I'm sure he's aware of this, that when we talk about the best quarterbacks in NFL,
Starting point is 00:41:21 motherfucker, you in the top five, the top three conversations always. And it's going to be like that for the next 10 years. Yes. It's going to be that. Well, you ain't at Lamar number 26, 27, right? But you're like 27. Yeah, man, it's man. Well, you know how many how many more years you got to go.
Starting point is 00:41:38 So you got a long way. They don't criticize. They don't they don't critique. They don't analyze because you always going to be successful. You're always going to be on the winning end of things, but all they are going to want from you is postseason success. And as you keep chipping and chipping at that goddamn rock,
Starting point is 00:41:55 at some point it's gonna come. And that's what I try to explain to people. I said, look, I was on television when Peyton Manning was had the number one seed and they were going out in the first round. But y'all was killing Peyton Manning was had the number one seed and they were going on the first round. And they got to be 41. Yes, I was, I was the one. I was the one. I remember that.
Starting point is 00:42:13 I remember that. And people try to make it seem like, Oh, you just know, do y'all, do y'all not remember, do y'all not remember? I do. When he got beat 41 to nothing, even his kicker turned on him. His kicker like when I was trying to get paid, like, come on, pay, let's go. We got to get going. We're going to win this thing. Van Jack said some idiot kicker that got liquored up and run his mouth.
Starting point is 00:42:37 Y'all see y'all forget. No, y'all didn't forget. Y'all didn't forget that. Y'all try to paint it. Oh, the meat. I look, I'm not saying that some people don't have it out against Lamar. I don't. I played for the Ravens. I know what it's like to be in that locker room. I would like to think I helped foster some of the culture that you see come out of that locker room so I don't have anything.
Starting point is 00:42:56 I I'm great. I go back. Ozzy, welcome me. Uh, Steve Bishadi, uh, Dick Cass was there, but I don't really know a whole lot of the other upper management, but those were some of the people, main people thatadi, Dick Cass was there, but I don't really know a whole lot of the other upper management, but those were some of the people, main people that was there when I was there.
Starting point is 00:43:10 So they always showed me love. I don't have an axe to grind with the Ravens. The Ravens were great to me. The Ravens were the one that financially secured Shannon Sharp for the rest of his life. So I'm always gonna be indebted to the Ravens. And they gave me an opportunity to show that I was more than John. I was more than Mike Shanahan.
Starting point is 00:43:30 I was more than the West coast office. So I will be forever indebted to the Baltimore Ravens and the city of Baltimore. Welcome me. I got friends that I met. Had I not gone to Baltimore, I would have never met. So I got nothing but love. And so anytime anybody does anything well for the Raven Baltimore, I would have never met. So I got nothing but love. And so anytime anybody does anything well for the Ravens, I'm all for it. Ed Reed and
Starting point is 00:43:51 Suggs and Sugar, all those guys. Bro, y'all do realize I was voting for the all pro and the defensive player of the year. I voted for those guys because I thought they deserved it. I got no acts to grind, but I got to call it like a seed. And if a guy plays well, I'm going to say I'm man enough to say he plays well. And if he doesn't, I got to be man enough to say, even though I played for that organization, he doesn't play with the rave. I mean the Bump Denver. Y'all know what I think about Denver.
Starting point is 00:44:17 Hell, my numbers up. I got the hall of fame crest by my name. But when they don't play well, I got to be honest. Yeah. Because at the end of the day, that's all I got. That's how I cut my teeth. Yeah, I used to get, they used to hate when I was like the Patriots. And I said, coach Belichick sent those guys out there
Starting point is 00:44:37 and the way they did certain things, I didn't think it was right. I said, if coach Cowan had to come out there, Rex Ryan had to come out there, uh, Kyle had to come out there, Rex Ryan had to come out there, uh, uh, Tony Dunja had to come out there and speak after crushing losses. Yeah. Why be a bell and check? Can't bring his ass out there. He goes, send somebody out there to the, uh, don't nobody know. Oh hell no. I said, you know what? He makes it real easy for you to root against the Patriots because he does BS like this
Starting point is 00:45:08 So But I think the Ravens are gonna be just fine on Joe check this out cheese fans a chief fan known as chiefs of Collic sinister chip chiefs of Harlech chiefs of Harlech Oh, then I locked my dog in a lot my dog up locked his ass up He's all with a really arrested on December 22nd after being accused of robbing 150,000 former Tulsa teachers union teachers credit union in Bixby, Oklahoma When he was released on bond in February, he went on the run following months after removing the ankle monitor Yeah, he was arrested in California July 23 and charged with bank
Starting point is 00:45:46 and transporting stolen property across state lines. Bam! So you go go in there try to rob somebody in the mascot that you on the sidelines in every Sunday. Hold on, but I don't think, I think, listen, this was a great story, fascinating story because I like stuff like this. I would never do it, but I like hearing about people that are crazy enough to actually do it, especially with today's technology. So I want to know that he didn't rob the banks in the actual costume that he wore to the games. All right.
Starting point is 00:46:14 He, he, okay. Okay. Okay. Just the fact that he robbed multiple games, multiple banks in, in, in general. He's a chief super fan. I mean, I think that's a fascinating documentary. Somebody needs to do, he's going for 17 years. Now who's next in line as the number one chiefs fan? That's what I want to know. That's what I know. Where all the money go? That's what, that's also what I want to know. He probably spent it. Spent it on what?
Starting point is 00:46:41 Normally when people steal, they spend it, you know, you notice when people embezzle things, they have like five cars, they buying jewelry, they going on trips, they doing things for the prayer. Ain't nobody, so you mean to tell me you go rob a bank and you saving it for your retirement? I mean, I think normally when it comes to people that are avid, avid like football fans and enthusiastic
Starting point is 00:47:05 connoisseurs of the game of football. I don't, for some reason I have a feeling he's not the flashy type that goes out buying, you know, new Ford F50, 2500. He just doesn't seem like the F, oh yeah, I don't know about no trucks, I'm sorry. He just seemed like a simple guy that just- He got a 650. 650, I'm sorry. And he just seemed like a simple guy that just- He got a 650.
Starting point is 00:47:25 650. He had a 650, I think he got a 650 now. I think he enjoyed the thrill and the drilling and rush of doing something like robbing a bank. Jump out of the airplane, gotta give you a thrill. Ride on the roller coaster. That's the stuff that won't get your ass locked up for a long period of time.
Starting point is 00:47:43 Right, right. Like some people have a weird ick like that. Like stuff that you know you're not supposed to be doing, you try to do it anyway and when you get away from it, when you get away with it once, it gets you such a high. Okay, you know what? I'm gonna try this again. And it's weird.
Starting point is 00:47:58 Like some people are weird. I'm just throwing that out there. Yeah, no. Wake up with football every morning and listen to my new podcast, NFL Daily with Greg Rosenthal. Five days a week, you'll get all the latest news, previews, recaps, and analysis delivered straight to your podcast feed by the time you get your coffee. No dumb hot takes here. Just smart hot takes.
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Starting point is 00:52:15 You got straight away. I felt like I was living in North Korea, but worse, if that's possible. Listen to Spiral'd on the iHeartRadioart radio app, Apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Anything that might get me locked up, that don't give me no thrill. I like freedom. Oh, I like freedom too. I might be the only one, but I like freedom. I ain't trying to go to jail, Luthor.
Starting point is 00:52:40 Yeah, listen man. I might be the only one, but I like freedom. I tried to be. I tried to go to jail. Yes. And this man. Oh, man. Are we listen, we are we outside, but are we really free? And that's a whole nother conversation. Well, you need to redefine what it means to be free. That's a whole nother conversation.
Starting point is 00:53:02 What is free? What is free to you? Freedom in general? Yes. To me, freedom in general is being able to get up and go as I please on my own free will and not having to answer to anybody. But technically, when I think about it, if you really take a deep dive into my personal situation, then I still have to do that,
Starting point is 00:53:28 even though I'm not incarcerated. If you get where I'm going with this, you get what I'm saying? So technically I'm really, I'm free, but I'm not because I still have to answer to some of the things that I do. I signed up for that. If you get what I'm going, it's not a bad thing. It's not a bad thing. I don't, I hate comparing it to incarceration, but I'm just saying I'm calling a spade a spade. But you get to get up, you get to go. You want to go get a espresso? You can go get a espresso.
Starting point is 00:53:55 Yeah, that's me. You want to come in, you want to come in, you want to come in and leave the house at 7 a.m. and come back at noon or come back at six, you can do that. Plus, plus you have financial freedom. Oh, yeah, that that's the number. That's the number one freedom in a society in which we live in. That's what people that's what people. Thrive for that's what financial freedom, right, independence,
Starting point is 00:54:21 to thrive for. That's what you get. Financial freedom. Independence. The need to not have to depend on someone else. Because man, listen, people just, we know this. Somebody know that you need them, they feel they can treat you any kind of way. We've all been in relationships.
Starting point is 00:54:40 Oh, they felt that they were the catch. They were the cats me out. They were the bees knees. Right. They give you your butt and kiss. He's like, well, damn. And sometimes women being in a relationship, they're like, well, why didn't you leave?
Starting point is 00:54:53 I couldn't, I don't, no. You have that ability, Ocho. Yeah. And so that's, that's the, you just have to find what is freedom to you. Yeah. Because freedom means something different to everyone. Everybody, if you ask them. And you know another thing I like the you just have to find what is freedom to you. Yeah, freedom means something different to everyone, everybody. If you ask them, you know, another thing I like that you just use that
Starting point is 00:55:10 for better context, if you if you lined up a hundred people, if you lined up a hundred people and you ask them for freedom, and you get a hundred different answers, if you line up a hundred men and lined up a hundred women, they ask them, what's your definition of love? I think you'll get a 100 different answers from both sides. 100 different answers, because everyone has a different view on what love actually is. But I don't know, we all off topic and shit. That's all right.
Starting point is 00:55:38 The Cowboys and Dags still don't have a deal to keep him in with the franchise past 2024. But according to Clarence Hill, there's an effort to get something done before Sundays open against the Browns. Progress has been made and the deal is closer than it's been. The length of the deal is not the sticking point in the negotiation as as has been reported there on the same page in terms of length. But the fact remains a deal has yet to be agreed upon.
Starting point is 00:56:04 Yeah. Joe, how will this impact the Cowboys and Dak? Well, mainly how does it impact Dak? Because Dak is gonna impact the Cowboys. I think for Dak, I think it's a distraction. I think for Dak, it's a distraction. I saw some comments that Joe Burrow made, uh, where before his deal, it became a distraction for him as well, where he just wanted to focus on football. But the lingering contract situation, you know, um, not lingering over his head,
Starting point is 00:56:34 but just that in its entirety, where he just wanted to focus on the game of football and prepare for a season. Obviously it got done. I think if I'm not mistaken, it was last year before the season started. And it's somewhat of a weight off your shoulders. Now you can just focus. I think for Dak, it's the same way. You can sense Dak Prescott's frustration not too long ago in an interview that he did where he said he takes everything that Jerry Jones says and I forgot how he worded it the right way. I don't take it seriously.
Starting point is 00:57:07 I don't take it seriously. And you know, for a quarterback to come out and say something like that, you can tell he's tired of the circus. He's tired of the mess. He's tired of his owner always in front of the camera and doing all the talking. Again, Jerry Jones sat down with Stephen A Smith,
Starting point is 00:57:21 which was elite, elite, elite journalism on Stephen A's part because he left no stone unturned. He asked the tough questions that Jerry had no choice but to answer and he answered them in his long ass dissertation that was totally unnecessary. So unless you actually sat there and listened and were able to read it in between the lines, because he messed up and said what the contract was. It's something five years that's coming up. If you, if you, if you listen to Jerry Close, he kind of told on himself. So I think it will get done. Just the fact that they took so long to get it done. It just, to me,
Starting point is 00:57:55 it just makes no sense. Yeah. I mean, most of the contracts have been five years. You look at the guys, two was four years plus the fifth year player,, uh, player, the fifth year option. So that's five years. So basically the contracts are going to be five years plus that'll take DAC somewhere. What's that? 20, 29, 30.
Starting point is 00:58:12 So take him somewhere around his mid thirties. Um, and so, well, the thing is if you ain't one that by your mid thirties, you don't bend that 13, 14 years, there's probably going to be time for you to move on. Anyway. Yeah. I mean, and that's, that's what they would do. You know, owners, especially owners like Jerry will probably do like what they did with Romo.
Starting point is 00:58:33 But unless there's someone that you have sitting behind you that you feel is the next in line that can take that throne, take that throne and be the next face of the Cowboys franchise at the quarterback position, uh, Dak won't be going anywhere, especially if at some point they find a success that we've all been waiting for since the nineties. Yeah. Hey, you know, honestly, connect. Can I say something? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:58 Honestly, if I was Dak, yeah, an understanding what I know I can get when I hit the open market, understanding that I've already made close to 160 million so far, I would play this contract out. No you wouldn't. Understanding I had the leverage. What happens you get hurt? You tear your knee.
Starting point is 00:59:24 He's not going to tear his knee, he's the leverage. What happens you get hurt? You tear your knee. He's not gonna tear his knee, it's the quarterback. Kirk, now Kirk Cousins got it, but Kirk wanted the deal, but once they told him what was gonna happen, he's like, nah, I wanna go home. Right. And plus you have to understand, everybody don't get treated the same now, Ocho.
Starting point is 00:59:40 Yes sir. You see, you keep thinking everybody get treated the same. What you mean by that? Everybody don't get treated the same chat. Y'all know what I'm talking about. Oh, okay. I see you. Okay. Okay.
Starting point is 00:59:52 Okay. Okay. But you have to understand that need and the want for people at the quarterback position is in is in dire need. Many teams, many teams still are in limbo. Many teams are waiting. They tried to the draft and failed. Oh, they tried to do. Well, if that's the case, if that's the case,
Starting point is 01:00:17 Jamar Chase, you just hold out there can know what he can get on the open market. Man, come on, come on, That's that's apples and oranges. That's two completely totally different situations. You never turned down life changing money if you can get it today for maybe more money tomorrow. Hold on, slow down, man. Slow down, we talk about life changing money
Starting point is 01:00:40 for a man that's already made 160 million. How much money you think Jerry? He's already made 160 million. How much money you think Jerry? How much money you think? He's already made 160 million. How about you think Jerry Jones is made? Oh. He bought the team for 150. It's not valued at 10 billion.
Starting point is 01:00:50 Jerry Jones wasn't a billionaire. Now he's valued at like 14 billion. Yes, sir. You see? I'm just saying just all the bullshit Dak has to deal with. That's all I'm saying. It's just, it's just, it's just, it's turmoil. It's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just,
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Starting point is 01:01:09 It's turmoil. It's a circus. No disrespect. He's playing for a salesman. Probably the greatest salesman of all time. And guess what? I'm selling too. I'm pretending like I like to be here.
Starting point is 01:01:23 Now give me 300 million. We both sell us some bull jive. Yeah, man. Listen, I love Dallas. I love that the Cowboys fans, they dope. I love the Cowboys players. I love fucking Dez, fucking Bryant. I just, I love everything about them.
Starting point is 01:01:40 And just, I wish a certain individual would take a backseat and let someone else. He's not. Let somebody else do. That's wishful thinking on your part, but it's not going to happen on your part. Damn, you know what? I love CD, I love CD lamb and I don't even eat lamb, but I love CD lamb. I love that.
Starting point is 01:01:59 You don't like lamb chops? So you, let me take, come on, let me take a, here we go again. So you eat lamb? Yeah, I eat lamb chops. You don't eat lamb chops? Why would I eat lamb, man? What you mean why would you? It's protein, it's meat.
Starting point is 01:02:15 Why would I eat lamb? The same reason you eat turkey, you eat chicken, you eat fish, you eat cow, you eat pig. The same reason why. Listen, Mary had a little lamb. Yep. Whose fleece was white as snow. Yep.
Starting point is 01:02:39 My name is Ocho. And I come from the... Everywhere where Mary went, the lamb was sure to go. Right. So why would you eat a lamb? But Mary went one day and I come from everywhere where Mary went the land was sure to go right so why would you marry went one day and a video surfaced in which he made comments about the team's players and accused Jerry Jones of being a racist and called NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell a $50 million puppet. Riel Etienne, Washington VP of content the previous four years, also criticized fans and called them mouth-breather. I don't know what that is.
Starting point is 01:03:40 Anyway, the team Thursday confirmed the firing via a spokesman, but had no further comment on the matter. Hey, you know what you think that's bad? Oh, you think them firing the vice president for the commanders is bad because of What was said let them goddamn emails leak Let them damn emails link from that job stuff if you think that's bad, but ain't nothing that's mild. Yeah, for sure. That's mild.
Starting point is 01:04:07 If you want to know how they really feel about us, let them goddamn emails leak. You know, he's not saying he's not sick. Man, don't get me started. For the most part, I know how most people feel. Okay, okay. I don't need to see that email to see it. Yeah, okay, okay, okay.
Starting point is 01:04:22 I'm just making a show. Listen, again, this is a business. This is a business. We are in an entertainment business. They are not our friends. They never will be. So you expect things like this. You know things like this are said.
Starting point is 01:04:39 Obviously, I've been in the game. Maybe people on the outside don't realize it. These things like this, this is what's said behind closed doors And it gets worse than this. I mean all these all he's doing is telling the truth and just so happens Somebody happened to be recording it and putting it out. Yeah, they set him up But this lets me know that there's an opening now with the commanders that I could feel now now with the commanders that I could feel now.
Starting point is 01:05:06 I could be vice president of content. Who's better at creating? You know what? Man, look, I can finally be. I don't know. I don't know anybody that could hold a job. Right. That would have been able to keep their job, no matter how much of it is true. You can't say that. That's impossible. Impossible.
Starting point is 01:05:23 It's impossible. Even if even if you were in the highest position of power, you would you would have to step down, you have to step down. You got to get up out of there. So, yeah, I don't think anybody's surprised that he got fired. Now, clearly he was speaking and didn't know he was being recorded or didn't think it would get out. You know, he could sue for that, too.
Starting point is 01:05:44 Whoever did the recording, whoever, whoever set him up, because that was obviously a setup, because the questions were asked for a reason to be able for him to be able to answer him so he could be set up in that manner. But Ocho, you've been at this long enough to you should know. I have. You should know when people are asking questions, where they're trying to get me to go, but you have to understand, you have to think the person he was sitting with
Starting point is 01:06:07 You only answer those type of questions that somebody you're comfortable with. Yeah friend. That's a colleague or So you thought? Yeah, that's how that's how they get to you. They always use somebody close to you They always they wait to you. They they work their way into your life Act like they're your friend. Love on you. Get what they need. Sound familiar, huh?
Starting point is 01:06:31 Like relationships. Come on now. It's what they do to you now in the beginning. Oh, it's always love. Until it's time the exit stays left. Then you see it, boy, don't get me started. Well, you know, that look, there are people out there like that, Ocho. Yeah, they just are.
Starting point is 01:06:51 And, you know, it's hard because, you know, you trust people and you don't want to be cynical and you don't want to be skeptical of everybody that comes into your life. Yeah. But they always why are you so guarded? Ah, for a reason. For a reason, past trauma, past experiences. Yeah. So, in other words, is it ulterior motives? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:12 Ulterior motives. Come on. Name the person that got attacked by a dog that all of a sudden they're like, man, why are you afraid of dog? Well, he one bit me and almost snatched my arm off and got me a hundred stitches in my face. What do you mean? Why? Come on. There are situations that I've been in that I've been placed in and I'm not saying it's you, but I don't know. I don't know that dog from anybody else. Yeah. So until I'm comfortable, yeah, I'm going to be on guard. Highly, highly suspicious. What you ain't going to be. well, I won't meet nobody.
Starting point is 01:07:45 Because I said, because here's the thing, Ocho, at this position that I'm in now, yeah, I can't fall and get back up. No. If I was 20. Hold on, you can't fall and get back up. Boy, you might as well put me six feet under that fuck up again, you hear me?
Starting point is 01:08:03 But you're laughing. No, no sir. No sir. But that me? But you're laughing. No, no, no. So that's, that's, I like, I like it for, oh man, that's a great topic, man. Past experiences, trauma. Oh my goodness. No eventually, but it look, and you just gotta, you know, you just got to be careful, Ocho.
Starting point is 01:08:27 Yeah. There's some devils out there. Oh yeah. And, but here's the thing, my grandpa used to say all the time, boy, if you give enough devil a ride, eventually he going to drive. Yeah, most definitely. Now you keep, now you, hey, you give enough devil rides, Ocho, and I guarantee you sooner or later one of them going to start driving.
Starting point is 01:08:44 Yeah. And uh- you sooner or later, one of them gonna start driving. Yeah. And uh-oh, then what? Can't turn back. That's it. That's it. Bill Belichick has officially joined InstaFace. Oh, Instagram. During the appearance of Pat McAfee's show,
Starting point is 01:09:00 Coach Belichick revealed he has officially joined InstaFace. Pat, I really can't believe I'm doing this, but I joined InstaFace, Coach Belichick revealed he has officially joined InstaFace. Pat, I really can't believe I'm doing this, but I joined InstaFace, Coach Belichick said. Brady, welcome to this former coach, posting a video saying, all right guys, party's over. Bill's here. It was a good run, but we've got to shut it down. Welcome, coach.
Starting point is 01:09:19 Yeah, he definitely last before I thought was gonna be on InstaFace. Yeah, most definitely. I think I like it. We get to see well, obviously, I've seen it. I've seen it already. The rest of the world gets to see a different side of Bill Belichick. I only the players get got saw.
Starting point is 01:09:34 He has a side. He has a he has a fun side. He has a personality. Yeah. Yeah. He is the same thing with Tom Brady. If people notice, if you pay attention, once Tom got out of New England and got to Tampa, you saw the content creator, Tom Brady. You saw the personality content, I mean, personality of Tom Brady.
Starting point is 01:09:55 You got to see a different side, and he's been able to open up and be himself a little bit more, as opposed to when he was there. Now that Bill is gone, now Bill is letting himself open up a little bit more to the era that we're in now, the social media era that you just wouldn't think Bill would ever, ever do ever, ever, ever do, especially if he was coached. You know, Coach Belichick got one of them old young ones. So you know what I'm saying? They be on that ground.
Starting point is 01:10:21 They do. What do you mean he do? But you know, Coach Belichick got it one of them old young ones. I know that. But the last thing I remember, he was with you. You got off the ground. A bill cool man, Bill Cool. Yeah, I think the thing is, I haven't been around him a whole bunch. I think I was around him at the Pro Bowl one year.
Starting point is 01:10:46 Yeah. And he is a totally different person. But when he's not in that mode, when it's not the regular season, when he's not coaching and he's in a relaxed type of an atmosphere, he gonna be at the bar, he'll have some drinks with you and he'll open up.
Starting point is 01:11:00 Yeah. You know, Peyton is the same way. Peyton gave you little glimpses, but Peyton is, oh man, you talk about like down down. I mean, that's why he was always voted the most guy that you want to have a beer with. Oh yeah. Because he go get to the bar, he go have a beer and he's gonna talk and he's, he's a great, he's a great guy. Um, I haven't spent a whole lot of time around Tom. Um, but everything that I've
Starting point is 01:11:22 heard about him and a little bit dealings that I've had, he's always great, he's always been great. But you know, those guys have to be guarded. I mean, they don't let their guard down around a whole lot of people. Now, if they let their guard, they really trust you. You get one of those guys and they like comfortable enough to let their guard down, they F with your heart.
Starting point is 01:11:44 And the funny thing about it, the people that they let their guards down are people who've been around since day one. Is this most of the time if they're day one, their circle, their friends, people that they've known for eons of years. And, you know, that's that's the safest place, especially for where they are in life. safest places, especially for where they are in life. So Coach Belichick is now on Instagram. Y'all go follow Bill, man.
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