Club Shay Shay - Nightcap Hour 1: Lamar REMOVED GAMES from Ravens locker room + Iso Joe TELLS THE TRUTH on NBA Gambling + 20 YEAR VET Mercedes Lewis joins NIGHTCAP

Episode Date: October 30, 2025

Shannon Sharpe, Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson and Joe Iso Johnson react to Lamar Jackson being the reason why the ping pong tables and games were taken out of the locker room, and Mercedes Lewis joins the show to talk about him recently signing to the Broncos and making it 20 years in the NFL and much more! 3:40 - Lamar took out games from Ravens locker room32:23 - Marcedes Lewis joins the show 01:02:10 - Going hunting with Ocho (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #Club  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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I don't think people understand. Hey, Joe, you know how long 20 years is for a tight end? Well, it's never been done. Not a quarterback, a quarter of a quarter. Whitney Gonzo has the record at 17. So, well, he has the record. But the previous record, I mean, those two guys played 17. And we understand how long Tony Gonzalez played and Jason Witten.

he surpassed that. So he's been at it for a minute. Congratulations to him, but we'll talk to him in a minute. Lamar Jackson confirmed he was the reason behind the Ravens removing the ping pong tables games from the team locker room. Let's take a listen to what Lamar had to say about this. I told Kaniko, I had equipment guy, I told him to take all the games and ping pong, turning TVs off.

And we could have took the TVs out. It would have been out too, but. I appreciate Mr. Steve for putting that in there for us, you know, but yeah, we had to focus. I would say people don't take the job serious on getting wrong, but like I didn't feel like it was the time for that, you know, we got a lot of work to do. I don't know if you guys can see it, but we got a graphic up here or what this is what the locker room looked like, the Ravens locker room looked like. Probably have me next year some of time, OTAs or something, but right now, that's not the focus.

My bad? Yeah. bit more to say, but here's the graphic of what the Ravens locker room looked like without any gaming tables or any other. It looks naked. It looks naked. Uh, Ocho, I think, I think Marlon Humphrey kind of dived him out to begin because I think Marley was on a, on a podcast, and you say the two, the two most important players, the two most popular players on the team, best, two best players on the team where you kind of narrowed it down. You know one of them's Lamar and then if you're going to say Derek Henry or

Rokan Smith, but we knew Al Jack was one of them. I said, you know what? I'm going to take the guesswork out of it. I'm going to take the suspicion out of it. I did it. I went to the training and say, look, blah, blah, blah, so forth and so on. And they got it done. Ocho, you got a problem with this.

But now, honestly, I don't have a problem with it. They were one and five. Now they're two and five. Listen, having games, video games, and all the extra stuff, the TV's inside the locker room, that's a privilege, huh? That's a privilege. And when you're losing the way they're losing right now, especially defensive, they're playing horrible. All the extra stuff, it needs to be gone.

All the distractions, having fun, what you want a video game for? And you won in five? Yeah, yeah. What you on the video game for? And they throw on 300 plus y'alls on your defense. You can't tackle. You don't deserve to have the extra privileges that you're going to. you get in a locker room you all about business you want to play the video game wait

till you get home we want to watch tv wait till you get home so i understand and it had to take somebody like lamar to do it because anybody else tried to pull that oh man they would have been talking trad they would have been chirping oh who you think you are exactly but listen Lamar lamar is the only one that can pull that trigger right and ain't nobody going to peeve a goddamn sound but it's the right it's the right thing to do honestly joe hey i agree i agree man you know when you losing, it magnifies a lot. Everything. Everything. Hey, hey, you're looking for any little thing in that, like, okay,

get the damn ping pong tape out there. The pool, you want it all gone. You know what I mean? Because you know those little distractions, you know, it can add up in a big game or in practice. It can take your focus away. Because look, you go to competing too hard on that. You can't wait for practice to be over, and you're right back on it.

You know what I mean? Hey. I agree with Lamar, man. Get all that up out of here. We'll have fun at OTAs or something in the summertime or something. Right now, We got to lock in, man. The rest of this season is very valuable and important for it. Well, listen. Hey, Joe, I like me to say.

Hey, young, let me tell you something. Taking them video games out, taking out the ping pong table and the pool table, maybe not even having no music. You want to listen to music? Put your goddamn earphones on. But I can tell you one thing. Tomorrow night, when they come down there to the hard rock,

you hear me? Yeah. They're going to go home with another L. So moving all that furniture, rearranging all that furniture out there in the locker room ain't going to mean nothing with them Dolphin put put belt the ass tomorrow man joe joe just for a second joe i agree with everything you said but also i remember we had a conversation and you told me that ain't got nothing to do it winning whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa we talked about it

about stuff that we do when you lose let me ask your question right when they were winning what were they doing were they playing ping pong were they playing play in playstation playing ping pong playing playing so let me ask you question did that go to them winning ball games no Oh, but it didn't go to them. Joe, you heard what he said that, Joe. He said it didn't help them win. Hold on, hold on, hold on, Uncle. Listen, stay with me real quick.

Stay with me real quick. Listen, when it comes to teams, they seem, they think, if they seem to think this is what's best for us to win games, so be it. Honestly, honestly, it had nothing to do with wins and losses. What you do when you're not there on, out there on the field, had nothing to do wins and losses. That's mind games, huh?

That's mine game. Maybe if we remove this stuff in the locker room, maybe the outcome of a game is going to be different. Ain't going to be no goddamn difference. The games are won on Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, and Saturday through walkthrough. That's it. What you're doing in that locker room ain't got nothing to do with that. I'll just be in a butt.

But I agree with you guys. Yeah, I know. I know. Hey, you know how I am, Mocho. Wait to the book come out when they find out what all I did they didn't know about. That's what. you need to worry about. But I agree with it because the thing is

is like what you guys said is that I need to be the focus because now you ain't got, hey man, let's play a game right here. Let's shoot pool. Let's play, let's play S5, blah, blah, blah. Nah, get your ass in your playbook. Right, right.

That's what you need to do. Because all I know is that team doesn't matter who we play, who the quarterback is, he's looking like Patrick Mahomes when he play us. That's all I know. I don't know anything else. but the guy looks like Patrick Mahomes

when he plays us. So something is not computing. You're right. All that stuff, you like shooting pool? Either go to the bill, you're hall

or put a pool table in your own damn house. You like PS5? Well, maybe that's the problem. You're paying too much. You're playing your homeboy if you're free or your former college page when you take your ass home and you're not putting enough time on the iPad.

I don't have any problem with this because Lamar as the leader, this is leadership this is what you're supposed to do sometimes it's just not about how well you play sometimes you have to take measures that's unpopular now I'm sure some guys don't like the A man

they ain't got nothing to do with why we lose it absolutely but what they're going to say they're going to say something who's going people sound in that locker room Joe when Ocho say you know what man we don't need this we don't need this no more I mean eight I mean eight that's what I'm trying to say

Who's going to say something of Lamar? Man, please. Absolutely. But that's the thing. Not the way, not the way they're looking on the defense. You're right. You're right. Because like I said, look, I remember we losing the game.

Hey, we didn't have lunch. Dan told him, I ain't feed you. Sorry, you know what. Go get your own lunch. Oh, okay. You can get it. I'm just not paying for it. We're just not paying for it.

I didn't say you couldn't eat. So you got an hour to get your ass to wherever you wanted, whatever you wanted. I mean, obviously, know we have fans and get back obviously you're not going anywhere to sit you know sit down and eat and you're not going to get anything heavy right but but that's that's the way it that's the way it goes I mean when you losing a sitting on your helmet they don't know I'm sitting on my helmet what that got to do while we lose I've been I was sitting on my helmet when we was

winning the locker room was nasty when we was winning we got to clear up we do all whatever you like Ocho you said it very clearly it's mentally maybe that's the read maybe all you you want somebody like, damn, man, they took them games up out of that, man, we play it. Okay, what else can we remove? Yeah. Yeah. I got a question, huh? I got a question, Joe. A, chat for you, for those of you that are listening, what happened when you remove all that stuff

and you still get who? And we can live with them, we can live with their results, oh, Joe. But we know we ain't had no distractions coming in to practice. We ain't got no coming in that time. Oh, yeah, I'm going to get that joke on the table. We ain't got that in that. Have your money tucked up on the rail like you're in the jug joint. Okay. You know when you gamble on pool.

when you put, tuck the money up on the rail. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Right, right. Hey, look, then, you know, it gets so serious. I don't came in there with my own pool stick. Yeah, I can't wait for it through today. You know what I'm saying?

Now we're all out of whack. We got a whole game playing we got to think of. Right. But you know what? I can honestly say, I can only remember a handful of times of me actually the only time I can only remember that I actually watch television. Y'all know what it was? The OJ trial.

Oh. That was the only, that was the only time. that I can remember actually watching, you know, and I wasn't like sitting down the whole hour watching it, get my workout out in, see what was going, you know, see what was going on. Like, let me go get tape, get my ass, get my ass on this field. So that was really the only time. And then one of, but that was, that was like on a Tuesday.

That was our off day, the World Trade Center. I remember walking in and I saw it, Bill, the father. Like, well, damn, is that real? Right. Nah, that ain't, that ain't real, that ain't even real. It didn't even seem real. So I remember walking and talking to Bill Tessendorf, who was out here training at the time.

I said, Tess, I just saw like, like the World Trade Center's like, go to, is that like a movie? He's like, nah, Sharpie, that's, that's real. I say, really? I see, what happened? He's like, I don't know, look like somebody, you know, crashed into it. So same day, I remember taking my dog.

I took my dog over there, had him a McKee at the time. And I let him run around while I went and worked out. he doesn't slip up under the damn fence and gone somewhere. Oh, man. Now, I got, because I know the phone was right.

I was trying to call my sister. I always called my sister on my way over there. The phone was just busy. I was like, when is a cell phone busy? I try to call my homeboy bucket. It's busy. I try to call Burns.

It's busy. I'm like, what damn? So it didn't dawn on me. And then when I saw that, it didn't look real. And the next thing I know, I say, now I understand what's going on.

But who watches, who goes to, I don't know, I shouldn't say that, who watches TV when they go to work? I don't. I don't watch TV when I, this one. She, like, but I don't watch TV, but I don't have a problem.

That's what leadership should be. That's what Lamar should have done. And he shouldn't have, he should, look, y'all know who did it. I mean, I'm surprised John Harbaugh didn't do it, but he didn't want to come off with like, oh, coach doing that because,

but when we were winning, he didn't take up, he didn't blah, blah, blah, X, Y, Z. You know how it goes. I'm glad Lamar did that. I'm glad Lamar stepped up, showed the leadership that has been bestowed upon him that he earned. He didn't deserve it.

He earned that with his plate. Yeah, absolutely. He's one of the senior tenure players that are there. If he can't say, take it out, X, Y, Z, well, who can't? Yeah, right. Listen, and one more thing. Before we go on to the next subject,

I just want to add for the chat, Joe. I want to let you know. I know they took, you know, well, Lamar took the right measures, you know, to make sure the team focuses and do what they need to do offensive. Lamar going to take care as business, but the defense ain't nothing to happen.

Ain't nothing happen. Listen, tomorrow, I'm going to the game tomorrow, too. You hear me? Hey, hey, hey, hello. Hey, two offense and throw for 300. You hear me? Hey, hey, hello. Two offended throw for 300.

What? Lamar going to throw for? Huh? On my ass, what is Lamar Jackson going to do? I mean, knowing Lamar, first game back, he might be a little rusty. He might be a real rusty. He'll throw for about, maybe about 210. Man, hey, he's a minor.

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Hey, it's mighty funny, Ocho. You got all this confidence in tour now, but just a couple weeks ago when we was on here, and you talking about him throwing picks, you was like, I was like, man, maybe he's going to turn around. I said it was early. He was like, oh, man, right, right, right. You went out there and had a hell of a game against the fire

because now you back on the bandway. I'm all for it. I never jumped off the bandwagon, Joe. When Tua played bad, this is something that I had a problem with, critiquing players and not really saying when they're playing bad, I made excuses for them. Joe, I ain't making no excuse me for it. When you play bad, I'm going to let you know.

And I'm going to say it loud. I'm going to say it proud. I'm going to scream out. I'm going to scream out of the hill like Jack and Jill. You hear me? So you got them beating the Ravens? Oh, yeah, absolutely. Joe, I'm going to the game.

It's at the hard rock, Joe. The hard rock right down the street from me. That man ain't been to a game this year. And the team that he went their support and won the game. Hold on, hold on, no, no, no, no. Excuse me, come again? When you went to the, when you went to the Bengals game, tell the people at home what happened.

We won. We won the last game I went to. What was the last game you went to? When they played the Steelers. No, you didn't go to that game. I did go to that game. I was there. I don't know.

That sounds suspect. Remember I was in the hotel? I had to lead the game in the fourth quarter to come home. Yeah, I remember you left the game in the fourth quarter. another game and came home too. But you had your tail between your legs on that game. No, absolutely not. Absolutely not.

But listen, listen, I don't mean to jump off topic. If Joe Burrow wasn't hurt, you know, the Bengals would be six and two. Oh, Joe. We'd be six and two. You know that, right? Name the season. How many seasons have you said that since he's been in the league? You've used that if Joe Burrow wasn't hurt.

You've used that more than, man. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. What you want me to do by that? I can't, I'm not in control of him, you know, getting injured of being healthy. I'm just saying what happened if he was healthy full time. I'm telling where we would be at.

But it's more, it's more probable than not. There's a greater probability that he gets hurt based on his tenure in the NFL than him not. Am I correct? Yes or no. Think about it. He missed basically his whole rookie season torn knee.

He missed what last. year, well, a year before last, with a risk. Now he's going to miss the better part of this season with a foot with a toe. A tote. So this has kind of been his MO since he's been in the league. I got you. I got you. But listen, get the injuries out the way early in your career.

Get the injuries out the way early in the career. And, you know, we probably win the Super Bowl next year. Hold on, Ocho. How do you go get the injuries out when is that offensive line? What got him hurt? What got him hurt his rookie year? Offensive line was terrible. What happened in the game?

Tweak the offensive line. His toe got tackled from flushed out of the pocket. Offensive line. So, I mean, y'all got a new one coming in I don't know about? No, we don't. But everybody can't have the, matter of fact, everybody can't have the Philadelphia Eagles offensive line, huh? Everybody can't have the goddamn.

Y'all just don't need to have the bad news bears. Okay, just don't have the bad news bears or the replacement offensive line. If you don't have that, you'll be fine. But also, let me say this. Hey, Joe, let me say this too. Also, on Joe Burrow, boy, you got to get the ball out of your hand, baby. You have to get the ball out your hands, you know, waiting to scramble because you're very good at extending plays. We know, we know, you got a little Michael Vick and you're not as fast.

Who? He can maneuver the pocket. I say you're not, you got a little Michael Vick in you. When it comes, let me finish, let me finish. I just said not as fast, but his ability to maneuver in the pocket. pocket and manipulate it in extend plays is second to none, but he don't got no speed, that's all. You're talking

about Joe Barrow? Oh, yeah. Hey, Joe, he could extend it play like a mother. No, I know he can't. I like Joe. He's a bad boy. Yeah, he's not. That's the problem. He held on to the ball just a tad bit too long. Based on his offensive line, of course he holds onto the ball too long. But you got to let

the plays develop. And a lot of times, he's thinking like, oh, yeah, we're protected here. Or you have a breakdown there. Somebody didn't slide. the right way somebody didn't get over far enough the back didn't do didn't do a good enough job of chipping on his way out there's a lot of things that play into a sack it's not always on the offensive line it's not always on the quarterback sometimes it's a combination and a lot of times it seems like they're taking turns line doesn't do what it's supposed to Joe doesn't get the ball out

his hand fast enough running back doesn't chip or do his job good enough and so it's just one after another and it just it's a snowball effect that gets larger and larger just just this small example before going to the next topic again i want to look i want you to look at joe flacco when joe quacko was played he's played he started three weeks look at him when he played against the steelers got the ball at his hand yes right away joe got sack one time joe can get sacked to the fourth quarter waiting on a longer play to develop which was going down field and that was the only way that was the only reason t j wott was able to get back there but outside of that every time joe get that ball one two three boom it's out of there quick so even if the line is playing bad it's somewhat

looks a little different with Joe Flacco back there because you're getting rid of the goddamn ball fast as hell with his decision making. Now, I'm not saying Joe Borough can't do that. I'm just saying at times he needs to get rid of it very fast and get it out of his hand. Leave to see another. Check this eye, oh, Joey, Joe.

The Bears trolled the Ravens posted this video on social media of Bears players competing in games in the locker room and the facility. Are they playing Papa Shops? Oh, we had one of the bill. You had a pop-shed in a locker room? Now they're playing peak, look at Ocho. They're playing Peeke-Pont.

They're playing darts. That ain't on the game. Yeah, we had a Pobieh. Oh, Joe, that was money. That was money, Ocho. Y'all were gambling on Pappishat? Yes. Man, hey, we had ping-pong tournaments.

Yes. Oh, yeah, we had ping-pong back at my B-2. I'm talking about, like, a couple people play before practice, couple people play after practice. Right, right. Look here. I know how you get it. We come, hey, you come and put your per diem money down.

Oh, we bet money. So like, we get that money, per diem, oh, Joe. You put that thing down, hey. And we shoot. Two people make it, it go back. Right. You can about have 10 people up there. If only one make it, you get all them per diems.

Oh, for real. Yes. Okay, I like that. I like that. So we get like, we get like workout checks. So you know, in the OTAs, oh, Joe, you get a workout check. It's probably like $250, $300. So, right.

I go upstairs, I get my check. I bet, hey, bet the check. Because that's what everybody would do, bet the check. Don't even look at it, Joe, just bet the check. All right. You know, we're shooting. Okay, I'm like, man, we got to go. Hey, we'll finish this up.

Lead the checks right there in the locker. So we come back. I make mine. Two dudes missed theirs. with me and Burns, I think it was me and Burns and a house. I think it was me Burns a house. But anyway, we were shooting. I opened their check in like $350.

My check was $70,000. They had owed, they had owed me from last year some money. Okay, okay, okay. So you got lucky. You didn't know? I didn't know, because I didn't open the check. See, the thing is Joe, you can't open it. You got to shoot it blind.

You got to shoot it blind. I don't know about that one. Oh, that's how we got to do it. Joe, you got to shoot that thing blind. Because, see, if you know what's in there, you ain't going to do it. I want you, hey, just put it on the, just put it on the, just put it in front of them right there. Put it right there. Y'all play cards, Joe, y'all play cards.

Yeah. What y'all play in between, Borey. We play Buree in between guts. Yeah. Ain't, hey, ain't nothing nice playing them game, man. In between, Joe. No spades? Well, it's hard.

It's hard to play, we don't really play spade for money. We play a spade for pride. Okay. Hey, Ocho, it might be a sensitive subject right now, but them boy love to gamble, man. Oh, for sure. You hear me? Hey, hold on.

Listen, Joe, that's everywhere. Yeah. It's everywhere. I mean, obviously, they made it legal, which is kind of weird. How do you make it legal? And then all of a sudden you're surprised that people are actually gambling now.

But you do know right from wrong. So, I mean, it's like, but you know what they're getting them on. They're going to put, they're going to fix it so if you're playing you can't bet on the props it's the prop best that's getting them it's not the winner lose the game it's over under the minutes it's over under the shot attempts it's all the it's the it's that it's those kind of stuff it's the injury report joe man you know hey man you know joe uh how is joe man joe

man joe wasn't even a shoot around joe ain't playing today now that information is going to come public at about three hours but it's not public now so So they're getting a head start on the info. So that's what the NBA is trying to nip in the bud. They're trying to get like, oh, we've got to do a better job of curtailing this, the injury report. That's why they make the injury reports public, Ocho, because just imagine if they weren't public and only a handful, but only a handful of people know anyway. man listen oh cho in 2020 i played in the t bt that's the uh that's the uh the basketball league for like two million dollars me and i played on the team and uh it was doing covid so they had us locked in

this uh hotel in ohio so the night before the game my home boy who was here in Atlanta he called me the night before the game he said hey man they uh they got you they got you uh you uh you uh what you think over under 18 points for you tomorrow i hung up like i'm like me don't call me listen listen don't call me what i don't know what i don't know who on the other end and yeah right and i don't want i don't want to go into the game with no preconceived notion that i got to get 25 points just let me right you know what i can i can see where some of these dudes homeboys hitting them and telling them hey man uh yeah it's really thinking about it man i man i ain't i ain't practice all week man i ain't they got that thing as questionable.

Bro, I ain't playing. Man, he's right, right. But that gambling, right, that gambling, you got to gamble with people that you know because gambling, I don't see a lot of fights break out about that money. Hey, hold on. Oh, wait a minute, wait a minute.

You heard the first thing you said, which is obviously a lie. You got to gamble with people you know because I didn't see some of the best of friends fall out when they come to money. Hell, I don't see family fall out. Well, how about this? How about people that that's going to pay?

That's because, hey, you start playing in between. Me and you both know one of them. That part of the in between to get up $25,000, $100,000 like that. Ooh. Like that. I've been in a pot that got to be $35,000. We had a pot so high. We're like, hey, man, just forget it.

Hey, everybody could. Hey, because, hey, nobody won't that because I already know. Boy, you lose $100,000. How are you going to focus on the game? Hold on, listen. Who better, who better a hundred thousand? The way you play, Ocho, let's just say we're playing cards. Okay, an ace come, you got to call it high or low.

And then the next card. Right. So if I get an ace, I'm going to say hi. The next card comes, let's just say it's a five. I say pot it. As long as the car comes in between that, long as it comes six, king, I'm good. If it comes on the edges, which is another ace or another five, you've got to double what's in the pot. So if the pot is 10,000, you've got to double it to 20,000, not the pot's 30,000.

You see what happens like that. Going to the Super Bowl. They in between them. Me and Burk, we all played, we have us a good old time. The pot is probably got to like, probably got to like 8,000. Then they got to like 10. Burns and hell, I'm selling my cards. I say, hey, huh.

So he said, man, he said, oh boy, he said, I love you. He said, but I can't go home and tell Michelle I lost this. It was a king, it was a five. King five. Yeah. I'm like, damn. I said, what you want to do, home boy? He said, man, I'm selling these cars.

I said, don't worry about it. I got you covered. I said, I got it covered. I said, what we're going to do. I said, if I lose, if I lose, if we lose, I put the money up. Right. If we win, I'll split it with you. I wouldn't do that with anybody else now.

Right, right, right. It is all my money. Oh, whoa, what about me? You wouldn't do that with me? First of all, your ass wasn't even in the league. You were in college. As a matter of my head, my head. In 98, where were you at in 98?

98. Well, I was a junior and a high school. No, I was a sophomore in a college. Yeah. So it was a king and it was a five. I was like, I said, hey, homeboy, let's just potty. Now, the pot's like 10. If we get hit on the edge, if a king or a five come on Joe,

we got to double the pot. Now, if it comes a four or eights, we just have to match the pot. Right. That thing came six. Ooh. Guy to have enough money to put it up, so he had to put Super Bowl tickets up.

Because we'd go into the Super Bowl. Because you know how long it takes you to get from Denver to Miami, so a lot of money changed hands. Oh, yeah. Man, yeah. Hey, Joe, I know you got some good gambling stories. You ain't got to put no name on it, though. Man, listen, when I was playing here in Atlanta, me, Josh Smith, Mike Bibby, Big Jason Collins.

Like, we used to gamble Ocho and like, when you get off the plane, if you won $7,000 or $8,000, that was a pretty good day. Right, right. You know what I mean? Well, when I got to Houston playing with James Hard and CP and PJ Tucker, and they getting off the plane owing each other $140,000. I said I ain't playing with y'all wait whoa whoa wait I just used to watch I used to watch I ain't never used to play with him hold on Joe you're not fin to say that like that like it's normal on how much yeah 140,000 170,000 80,000 you're talking about in bitcoin or American dollars with no bitcoin back then my young that money on hey I I heard stories like guy you had to come to

you had to come to the table with a hundred 150 200000 in cash just to sit at the table. And if you're not gambling, you couldn't sit in. You're like, nah, bro, you got to go. Nah, I'm just here with such and such and that ain't got nothing to do with me.

Yeah, Ochoca, look, you're going to come to the table with that little $2,500. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you try to get it. Yeah, mm-mm, bangle that you don't let you do. That's going to last you two rounds, home boy, you're going to be out of that. That's how most big, heavyweights gamble

is that you've got to come with X amount of dollars. You got to come with 50, 100, 200, 200, quarter of a million dollars in cash just to just to just to get in and sit in the room because you're not fit to be no bystander they don't need no cheerleader they don't need none of that right right but but but this all athletes though it ain't like no home boys it ain't like none of that this is all athletes bad uh oak oh oh love to gamble like that big oak yeah oak tree but i know another guy that like the gamble like that and talking about yeah you know uh you know are we staying at such and such i ain't got nothing doing me

the man to do right here I said bro I said you're not fit to get my house I'm sorry bro I'm good I'm good I don't want to say bad guess what I took 50K I took a no no no

because he got that kind of money that every time you play you're nervous because you know you can't put him under the gun you can't put him at risk see the whole thing when you're playing with cash money and it's right down the table

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Our special guest joining us, he just signed with the Broncos, playing in his 20th season. played a grand total of 285 career games from playing University of California at Los Angeles, aka UCLA. Here he is, ladies gentlemen, Marseides Lewis. What's up, brother? I'm good, man. How you doing, bro? I'm doing well, man.

Just everything happened so fast. It was, like, obviously, I played 19 last year. last year. I didn't get picked up for camp, didn't do OTAs. This was the first time I hadn't been in camp. So it was a mental, it was messing with me mentally for a second because it's something that I've been used to. And I'm one of those that I love camp. I love building that gristle and getting ready for the season. And so when I didn't get picked up, it was like, okay, you know, how do I want to go about this? And so I just was kind of more introspective about it and just kind of was in a state of allowing, meaning like not resisting nor forcing what was meant for me.

I come back from Joshua Tree. I go to a place where I recover at, get in the sauna. I get a call from a Denver number. And obviously, I didn't answer it because I didn't have it. I'm thinking to spam. I'm like, man, what is this? So the number calls back probably like three minutes later. And I'm like, I still look at my phone, didn't answer it. And then the GM left a message like, yo big dog give me a call um this george payton gym uh at the broncos want to talk to you for a second so i called him back and literally right there and this was monday he was like yo can you fly out here uh tonight and i was like mind you i've never been in this situation before like i've always been contracted so it was just different feeling this you know feeling this right

and so yeah i'm like you know what yeah i could fly out there so i hopped on a flight like around when eight got, got to Denver, like around 11.30 at night, sat on the tarmac for like 50 minutes, then went to the hotel, and then literally next day, Tuesday, worked out, took my physical and shit, signed on the spot, man. So it's definitely a different experience. Yeah, you tell them, hell, yeah, you fly, you buy, I fly. Come on, now. You know, will I fly out the hell? Yeah, you buy, I fly. No doubt.

Hey, Mercedes, was it ever the thought of your mind that you would be able to, for one, make it into the league is one thing. You want to play, you want to have a healthy career, you want to squeeze in as many years as you can, obviously. But did you ever think you'd get the year 20? Man, I thought, you know, obviously coming out of UCLA, that 10 was going to be a great career. And, you know, and it was a situation where I'm not sure you're familiar with John Embry. He was my tight-end coach at UCLA.

Yeah. Hell. He was in camp with me, my rookie year in 1990. Okay. Okay. So you know, Enbo, you know his energy and just the type of person he is. So obviously, Embo, you know, he coached Tony Gonzalez, George Kittle for a while. Remember Daniel Graham? Yep.

So as far as, like, his resume is dipped in blood when it comes to, like, tight ends and how he's able to get across to those guys. And, you know, make a big one. Yep. 100%. And I remember, I would say, he got to UCLA, my sophomore year, then fired the tight-in coach we had. He got to UCLA. And the first conversation we had, he was like, look, I didn't come to UCLA to coach for UCLA. He said, I came to UCLA to coach you. He gave me a whole rundown of like my family knew where I was from. I'm from the east side of Long Beach. My mom had me at 15 years old. I've been through just a whole bunch. So he had already

done his homework. And that kind of lit a fire under me. And so right after that, that formed a connection and just like that vibration that we had. And literally he took me from, he said, look, this is where you are now. You got the ability to go through here. He was like, there's a lot of people that can catch the ball and run and look pretty. We know that. You're an athlete, cool.

We get it. You want to play a long time in the league. You're going to have to learn how to get your nose dirty. And it starts right here. And so he literally took me from, you know, just being able to catch a pass and do nice things with it to like really being a dog and with it to be in a dog. And so I learned how to compete under him. And so by the time I got to the league, this is my rookie year. I get drafted in 2006.

Freddie T. Fred Taylor took me under his wing. Hey, Freddie. And Fred Taylor, he caught me slim. Like at that time, I was 6'6, like 260, but I didn't have the mass, right? So he just, I always just caught me slim. So one, the first day of pads, we got the Oklahoma drill, right? So this is like my first Oklahoma drill in the NFL. We get three D ends up.

Freddie T's running behind me twice and then Maurice Drew is running behind me. I pancake the first two guys, moved a third guy out the way. Freddy T jumped on my back, kind of like wrestle me almost to the grass. And it was like, yo, you keep blocking like that. You're going to me in the league for a long time. So fast forward to. when I signed my contract this morning, Freddie T. text me and was like,

you remember that conversation we had? I was like, bro, how could I ever forget that? That's something that I always have with me, and it's something that's inspired me this whole entire time. So I'm just grateful to, you know, he didn't have to take me into his wing. He played running back.

It was, it's just been smooth, man. And I was just taking one day at a time and, you know, just get my personal best or whatever it is I'm doing in that day, and I live with the results. You mentioned, Mercedes, bro, that's still a long time to get your body, to go through the rigors.

Look, we know that, you know, situational now, but still, you got to come in there and ain't Jacksonville where you got nice, warm weather. You play, you're in Chicago, bro. Outside. You're having to go, and you were the Green Bay. Outside. So we get it.

So once you got past year, once you got past year 10, as you mentioned, I can get 10. Then you get to 15. because once you get the 10, you take it one year at a time. 100%. Once you got to 15, you had to be like, hold on. Gonzalez played 17. Whitten played 17.

The way I feel right now, 17 is in the bag. Was it ever a realistic shock once you got past 15, that 20 would be into the play in the equation? Bro, you just hit it on the nose. And like, this conversation is something that I have pretty often with people because they ask me like, how did you like like what in your mind made you think that you can just keep going and keep jumping up to continue your career 15 was literally that magic number once i got once i passed 10 i got to 15 and i was like okay i don't want to question it because i don't want to jinx myself but i still feel really good right and so i get to 15 i'm in green bay and literally green bay is like well we want to sign you to a two year deal because i was only doing one year deals trying to to just play it by ear.

Yep. And like at that time in Green Bay, obviously we had Jimmy Graham. He assigned the contract. He was there for a couple years. Then he ended up leaving. And then I ended up being like the full time why. Like so I was the why,

which means like the do it all tight in for the listeners out there. And then we had obviously the past catching tight in at that time, Robert Tullion. So yep. I was doing all the dirty work, outside zone, power, ISO, all that. Like, you got to sit that edge, Marseid, you got to set the edge. Come on, man. I was sifted. I was doing all that.

And so they, I didn't expect them to offer me a two-year deal. I thought it was going to be one year, one year. But when they offered me a two-year deal, I felt like it was my responsibility to go out there and continue to give them what they know that I, that I'm about. And I signed a deal, didn't look back, got through 17, still still felt really good. A-Rye ends up leaving, Devonte ends up leaving, Cobb. retires, Dave Batyari leaves, and I'm like, okay, it's only me here. I know it's about to be my time to go, too. So they hit me up like, hey, Sadie's like, you know, we're kind of changing the regime.

Like, you know, the, the, you know, the garage. Yeah. So I'm like, all right, like, no doubt, whatever. Like, you know, I'll figure it out. And then not too long after that, I would say June, Chicago hit me up. And then we had had Luke Getsy, who was the quarterback coach with Green Bay and was familiar with, you know, how to use. me as far as in, you know, plays and what I'm good at and brought me to Chicago.

Thinking that was going to be a one-year deal. Played that out. Still played about 43% of the plays at 39 years old. So I'm still rolling. Then the next year bring me back. So that's two years. And then here we are now. It was just like, once I got 18, I was like, I have to get 20.

Yeah. I got to get, I got, I can't end on the odd number. I can't get 20. I can't like this is I literally it was like the capstone like 20 is like when I wake up in the NFL ain't a whole lot of players that's ever played 20 season you get a you get a Jackie Slater and you get a Tom Brady and you get a handful of guys but maybe I don't think it's 20 guys maybe maybe it's 20 guys yeah 25,000 people men that's ever played this game darrell green it ain't a whole lot of guys so let me

ask you this. Is this it? You're trying for 21 or you done it 20. You're stopping on a nice, a nice round, even number. Okay. So,

so this would be the first time I've ever said this, because I haven't, but this is it. Like, if I said that last year, like, if I said that after 19,

I wouldn't have felt like I did in these months that I was not playing, right? Like, bro, I will wake up sometime, Like the season started, it was a few teams hitting my agent up, but it was like, just, is he still working out? Does he still want to play? Just a bunch of like fluff.

It wasn't nothing serious. So I told my agent, Buzz Cook, I told him, I said, look, if it's not serious, like, don't hit me up because it's messing with my head. Like, some days I wake up sharp and be like, I feel good. And then some days I wake up and I feel like I'm in a nightmare because I'm waking up, I'm watching ball. And in my mind, I'm like, there's not 64 tight-ins better than me in this league. And I know I could be out there helping somebody with. Yeah. And like, especially for what I do at this point of my career.

Like, I'm the best at this, right? Like, just point of contact, setting the edge, rock setting and play pass. Like, you know how it is. Like, it's, oh, yeah, yeah. I take a series. I'm going to lock it. We sip the thing up. Hey, we'll scoop it.

Whatever you want to do. Hey, if y'all want to put, play, let me be Gilligan. I get on that island. Come on. Come on. And so, hey, and that's, and that's kind of where I'm at. And, you know, today, Sean Payton pulled me inside and was like, I've been watching for the last eight years.

Like, even when I was in Green Bay, the Saints kept trying to get me when he was with the Saints. He was like, I just want you to know that I've been watching this for the last eight years. I know what you're about. Everybody talks about how you are as a person. Like, I get it. But you're not staying in this league for as long as you have just for being a great leader. you've been dominant we need somebody like you and so they made me feel value they made me feel welcome and um to be honest with you guys like today was the first time i felt like like nervous

because it was like i'm 41 i didn't do camp no o tas what's my reaction time like regardless if i'm working out, right? Like, you ain't, you ain't playing football. Exactly. And I really question myself, like the night before going to sign my contract and then going to practice, like, I'm in there and I'm like, you know, he's, they give it, like, you know, they give me the playbook, all of that. I'm looking through. And I'm like, okay, every hour that went by today, I felt more and more confident. Like, I get in there and it's just like, all my teammates are like, you know, you know, just loving me up, bro. And I'm just like, damn, like, this is where I'm supposed to be, you know, and it feels good.

Oh, right. Once I got on the field, bro, it was just like riding the bike. So I'm grateful for the moment. I've always been in gratitude. I lead with just gratitude, man, and I, it's special, bro. Joe, you had a question. That's what's up, man. Yeah, I wanted to say, first of our Mercedes, man, congrats on 20 years, bro.

that's a long time, especially in the NFL. What's the biggest difference? What would you say the biggest difference is from like year one to like year 20 now? Would it be mindset, training, obviously? You know, what would probably be the biggest difference? I think the biggest difference for me, bro, is the time I had to form a routine. Because when I first got into the league, right, like those first three years, you're trying to figure out who you are.

You know you're athletic. You know that, like, you can do some things, but you don't know if you can consistently get it done at that level, right? Like, you're playing against guys, they've got families that are not having it. And when I got to Jacksonville, dogs in Jacksonville. Like, I was raised with the wolves in Jacksonville. You know what I mean? So I feel like being in that environment,

made like molding me into who I am today and I would say after year three I started to form this routine how like my in season workout recovery does not change from my out of season workout and recovery and and mind you I said out of season and not off season I don't take it off right right right it's maybe two and a half weeks of just letting my body heal and and that means infrared and cold tub I'm still doing something to keep the blood flow right yeah once it gets close to February, like right after Super Bowl, I've been trained to mix martial arts now for 15 years. So whether it's jujitsu, Muay, wrestling, judo, whatever it is, I would do that from February all the way to May. I do not step on the field until the end of May going into

July. Once I hit the field in June, I get on the grass, straight ahead running, and then we do like 400 breakdowns on the track. And then that's really about it. I'll do like cone stuff, but not too many routes, even in my prime when I was catching a ball. It wasn't a lot of routes and like, putting that pressure on my knees, and then when I would get to camp, I would be peeking at the perfect time. And, like, I really just feel like that regiment has paid me back right now because I still have my legs. I went to Jacksonville where we were run first play action pass, right? Like, you know, Jimmy Smith was getting out of there. Kingdom of Cardell had just got out of there. It was like Freddie T. Marie Drew, obviously, we had Kyle Brady a tight end. I was backing him up

as a rookie then I end up starting as a second year guy exactly and it was like we ran the ball bro for at least four or five years straight and I was still getting my numbers you know I went all pro my fifth year pro bowl all of that but not like I should have right and right I would always be like damn man like was I supposed to get drafted here like I came out of UCLA Mackey Award winner all the records doing my thing like I get to Jacksonville and I'm like bro I'm blocking iso power I'm doing, you know what I mean? Like, I'm not really being used. Like, they drafted me in the first round, so I didn't get it.

That's the best thing to happen for you, Marseid. You didn't know it. Because had you put up those numbers early, and now all of a sudden you were in year 10, your 11, year 12, and they're not the same as they were in year 3 or 4, now all of a sudden they're going to say you losing it. But because you didn't have 80, 90 catches in the beginning, they were like, he's insane.

Yep. And what we're asking him to do hasn't changed for what, he's been asked to do the previous team, the previous 12, the previous 15. We looked it up, Mercedes. There have only been 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13 players to play

at least 20 years or more. Most of them, as you could imagine, are kickers. George Blander played 26 seasons. He was a quarterback, but his last couple of years he was mainly a kicker. Morton Anderson, 25, kicker. Adam Ventura, 24. kicker. Tom Brady, 23, quarterback, John Carney, 23, kicker, Gary Anderson, kicker.

Jeff Fiegel, 21, punter. Earl Morrow played 21 as a quarterback. Jackie Slater, offensive lineman, Darrell Green, quarterback, Venet Test DeVurdy, quarterback, Brett Farr, quarterback, Jason Hanson, kicker. And now, Mercedes-Louis is on this list of guys that have played at least 20 seasons or more. and you played a position. Now, Jackie, I'll say Jackie might have had, because Jackie had to bang every play for 20 years. No doubt.

For 20 years. Sometimes you got to run, you got to run, you got to run, you got to run routes. I played a lot. 20 years is still crazy. Let me ask you this, are you married Mercedes? No. Because I was gonna say that's an awful long time

to ask somebody like, hey, I need you to make these sacrifices for 20, I need you to pick up the kids, I need you to be the PTA, I need you to be the recitals, and the football game and all this and all that other stuff. So you understand the sacrifices that you make, but when you have a partner, you're also asking them to make said sacrifices.

100%. Mercedes, what combat sports you do again? Jiu-Jitsu? A little bit of judo, some wrestling. I don't really... I think that's you right now, Ocho. Oh, Joe, oh, you're a, Ocho, ready. Ocho say he won't do a little. Hey, listen.

You know, hold on, hold on. Hold on, but you know I got a black belt and all that. You got a brown man, too, to hold your pants up. Mercedes, I think you, hey, that's what we want right here. Mercedes and Ocho. Hey, well, you know, I got a black belt. I got a black belt in judicious. I submit you pretty quick, bro.

Yeah, you heard of it? Hey, let me tell you something. When I'm done with James Harrison and I beat his ass, I mean, you, you're welcome. We can, I mean, whatever you want to do. Oh, Joe, start for somebody like at 140. Man, man, he's 6.6, 265, 270. Hey, Unk, listen to me, Mercedes. I'm 6'4-230, man.

What you talk about? But he do that, Ojo. So he, you not got to worry about his conditioning. He fight. He got to train like that. So you know his conditioning is through the roof. Hold on. Time out, time out. Man, stop playing with me on Sweet Jesus, man.

I trained. It's just different. It's just different, though, Ocho. like if we was just straight boxing potentially like you may be at a land a couple shots but I'll still fight behind my jab and if we listen no hold on I land a cop of shot

me with your ass if it's boxing no you see how calm I am right now how you're going to get I'm calm right now too let me ask you a question Ocho how you're going to get up you don't you never fought from your back you don't know how to get up who do you talk about

man I could fight off my back foot front No, I said you're back, not your back foot, your back. Your back. Oh, I'm, what you, hey, I was, I was the state champion Grappler. What you talk about? Your ground game like that? No. Your ground game like that running.

Yeah, nah. It'll be, it'll be dope to, to roll with you, though, if you ever want to roll. Obviously, yeah. Yeah, let me know, let me know. Hey, what's wrong with my goddamn camera? I don't start me to line as your camera. We got, we got, we got, we got, Barcena. You know, hey, if you want to bang a little bit, hey, he's ready.

He got the gear and everything. O's your logging off now, huh? No, he, hey, hey, sparing, a, hey, Spare, Mercedes, bro. Nah, yeah, it's so good. I don't know. No, no, spend, me. The only thing, only spare I know about is a tire and it's in my trunk. So, let me ask you questions.

So where is home, Mercedes? Uh, Sherman Oaks now. Oh, okay, okay, okay. So you stayed, you stayed in Cal. Yeah, I'm in L.A. Um, I bought my mom in my house in Lakewood, which was about 30 minutes from long. Beach where I grew up at.

We spent some time in like South Central, abuse of relationship, all that. You know how I go. And for me, I bought a house in the casino and then obviously the fires happen. It got close to the crib. Thankfully, I was able to sell my house last year. And then now it's more so just renting to be more cash-free because I'm not sure what I was going to do.

Was I going to play a 20th year or potentially go to the front office or whatever? I just didn't know. And so now I got to hold that off for another two months or three months and figure that up. But that's what, so you're looking at potentially thinking the Valley is probably going to be where you set drop anchor at. I think so. But it's going to be California. You're not necessarily the Valley because we don't want to give out your information. Right.

But you know probably California. You're a Cali kid at heart. So that's probably where you're going to set up shop. Yeah, like California is, you know, I feel like me and my mom are like best friends too. I don't know if I could just, you know, bounce on her like that. And then... Be that far away from her.

Yeah. And so, like, I would probably rather stay there. But I love to travel, too. So even if... Even if I, like, got something, again in California, it would probably be, like, just a dope penthouse or something. Something I don't have to worry about maintenance. I want the panoramic.

And I could just pull up, plug, and play. And then I travel. Because having the house and all that... The mortgage, bro, I'm over it. I'm over paying. mortgages and interest rates and I'm just over it man right yeah so I just you know the older you get like for me I've been more of a minimalist or minimalist the older I've gotten and so I realize that I don't need a whole bunch to find joy like I'm happy inside you know so wow

all the other things that like and mind you playing in jacksonville it's not it wasn't the real NFL experience right like it's not there's nothing in Jacksonville right no you know that do ball come on i mean when i got to jacksonville they robbing players it was barely in restaurants dudes was getting stuck up at gas station no swear to god dudes is getting stuck up at the gas stations it was just not i was like you what am i what am i doing out here like i was born in long beach i saw all that in long beach went to the sierra right that changed right i'm in brintwood yeah you're westwood you are you between brittwood and beverly i get to jacksonville i'm like okay we're going back

backwards now as far as like I'm living right and so yeah man at this point I'm just like the least that I have to worry about least overhead that I have to worry about can I just pack a bag and go travel and go see the world because playing ball I've been playing pop warner since I was seven have not stopped on 41 when I retire after this year I just want to see the world man like in a real way you know yeah yeah well you know uh at your size you know everybody going to think you did something. So you go to far country, they're going to be poor. They're like, you did something.

100%. You ain't just big for no reason walking around. Nah. And I'm low key, too. Like, I've already checked into it, like, certain places, especially in South America. Like, I've been in Costa Rica for my birthday, but like, I'm, I'm getting the NFL to give me some security or something. Like, I'm not, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

I'm not walking around, you know, dilly dabbling in and I expected nothing to happen. Right. definitely got to be on you got a you got to be on your best behavior watch your six at all times and the best day to do is the NFL a hook it up for you boy come on man set me up please right hey when you're at the Broncos what what number are you wearing I'm wearing 89 okay you got cars I thought you was going to get 84 I said man make the 84 look good what last time no you uh best they ever do it bro and ain't no way ain't no way and I and I wouldn't even I just

wouldn't just out of just the respect and it was crazy because you came up like I'm in there and I'm like what number do you want? I'm like 89 and they're looking at the thing and I was like yeah there's no 89 and then I looked at Sean Payton and Sean Payton was like yeah the best tie they in there play here is 84 I said yeah he's one of the best ever playing this league too

you know what I mean so like and that's that's all positions so that's not even a question like I appreciate that man no 100% hey man enjoy it man Hey, Broncos look good. They got a nice defense.

It's a sensational. Bowdox is playing really well. Cortland Sutton, uh, mims. Hey, they got guys that can go make plays that can run the football with Harvey and Dobbins. Hey, keep it going, man. And who knows? You might see you in San Fran, baby. Hey, let's do it, man.

I appreciate you guys. Thanks for having me, bro. This is the first time, you know, me and Sharp actually had a conversation. So I was geek for that. Oshah, we always be seeing each other out and hollering each other. Joe was a pleasure. man, respect your career as well. Nice me,

we're going to sit that in the email, whatever you want to do, whatever you call it, or Mercedes, you call it. Okay. And we'll get Ocho there. We'll have to pick him up and bring him back.

Michelle, man. Appreciate your love, man. Thank you. Thank you, bro. Have a good, man. Thank you, bro. Hey, that's unbelievable, man. Hey, 20 years playing that position.

I think, guys, I think I could, I know I could have got 15. but ain't no way in hell, I could have got 20. Yeah. But why not? Why you say that? You know, because, Joe, we used to hit. We bang, we don't do that bullshit that we do it now. Oh, Joe, you better tell him.

Hey, the hell. It was different back then. It was different. Yeah. I came up in the 90s where shells were shoulder pants. It wasn't as something, the shells that you have up underneath your pants, that's what they call shells now. Yeah.

We literally had on shoulder paths and shorts. That was a shell day. But you thudded up. You thudded you had on full pads Wednesday and Thursday. You thudded up. Nine on seven was real. Team was like, hey, hey, we were thumping. Training camp were hell.

It wasn't a walkthrough. It was hell. We're putting people on the ground in training camp. And, you know, we do what they do now, these joint practices, Ocho. But we was going overseas. So we would go overseas. Let's just say we went to Berlin.

And so we would get there on like a Sunday, we scrimmage, we scrimmaging the dolphins. You know, we go places, we scrimmage in the 49ers. We scrimmaging the Seattle when we go to Japan. But yeah, it was, man, that's, it's a lot, hey, it's a lot of fluff going on. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Look, I'm not saying, look, I'm not saying the guys aren't talented because they're super talented because, you know, look, there's this thing called evolution. Players get better. They're more equipped. They know more. The training is better.

They eat better. They, uh, the, the cold tub and they got, uh, uh, red light sunny and all the things. Those things are better now. But, hey, we banged. For real, for real. You heard them say Oklahoma. They ain't doing no Oklahoma no more, Joe. Ah, hey, absolutely not.

Absolutely not. Hey, hey, uh, I need to fix this camera, man. Hey, I, um, you know, I, um, you know, I got a new computer. I got a new camera because obviously the last two shows, they had to use the laptop camera because the USB wasn't recognizing the camera for me to use the actual Sony.

So, you know, I bought a new camera today. I bought a new laptop, Joe. And they gave me, and even with the new laptop and new camera, it still wasn't recognizing the camera. So they gave me a cam link. Is that what it called? Yeah, a cam link.

So I got the cam link, you know, plugged into the port. And it was able to recognize on Zoom, but now I don't know what's going on. It keeps going in and out. Little El Gato thing. I'm probably saying since you ain't paid me my $5,900, they're going to keep doing that.

And my hundred. But God damn. Might well throw it in there now, I owe you, too, Joe. Man, come on. Why we got to get to this every time we can? I'm just saying, Joe, I don't remember betting you, Joe. I don't remember. I know I know I owe Unk, but I told Uncle.

You just said on a couple shows ago that you remember owing me $100. For real? Yeah, and I told you the season of started back and everything, but I told you I ain't going to hold that against you. Well, hold on, hold on, Joe. Let me check the books.

Let me check the books. I'm going to make sure I'm going to get back to you. As far as Uncle's concerned, listen, Uncle had to get that back in blood, didn't it? Well, I got to get that back in blood. Man, I just, I mean, oh, I'm just a friendly wager, man.

Man, listen. Listen, let me, stay with me real quick, Joe. Hey, Joe, listen to me, Joe. Joe, I've been begging Uncle from a Funko. I've been begging for my high school jersey I've been begging for the wards Hey Joe he ain't sent me nothing Joe So you're saying you gotta hold his funds

Hold on not only that Joe I had to go break in his house And steal two of my trophies Oh man Hey Joe I had to go steal these Joe You hear me Oh man

I put on my shi-sticey I put on my shisd Oh man that too It looked good Hey you might want to say this You got your last name, Johnson. Man, come on, stop playing. Come on, man.

Man, you can sit there right over here. Hey, you see, hey, Joe, see how you're all playing? Hey, see how you're all playing? You won't the red one or the white with Joe. What? Oh, yeah. Hey, I won number two in Atlanta. Yeah, perfect.

Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, you know over here, I'll take it. Hey, they, there y'all go. I'm going to get that out to you tomorrow, Joe. Hey, hey, listen, hey, listen, it's one thing. It's one thing about it. Oh, Mary had a little lamb. Don't maybe put that shysty on.

You hear me? Yeah, all right. Hey, you know what, Joe? Hey, I'm about to put this pool stick on this, in this man, head. Hey, you were begging today to country Joe, go cross your head with a pool stick? Yeah.

Maybe I'm going to do it right. I think I've got to go on put the pool stick upside his head, chat. And I know y'all understand. Hey, y'all, that thing looked brand new over there. man you put some use to it been you yeah hey joe he don't play no pool man how he gonna bend over how he gonna bend over on the table he ain't got no hips oh man hey joe you see that right that or you know you see that okay he knows i see how he holding it he knows hey hey joe anybody

can hold a tennis racket too they call me georgia slim i beat fast Hey, hey Joe Anybody know how to hold a tennis racket Anybody know how to hold a golf club Don't mean they can golf Anybody know how to hold a pool stick Don't mean a nigga shoot their pool Hey, hey, man

We got a stream We got a stream a pool game With us in the pool I don't know about you Joe But I beat that Whoa, whoa Hey, hey, hey, hey Time out

Hey, hey, oh You got a pool stick That hasn't been used You don't know how to play no pool Don't worry about what's been used I use it on you You remember my grandma had those switches in the corner? They ain't been used either.

Until you act up and all of a sudden she used them on you. You see, hey, Joe, that's going to be our show. Joe, when football season end, I got a TVU backpack, right? I haven't been able to use it. So, you know how you got all the streamers, Kassanod and Jans and the dogs calling boys? So we don't have nothing for the old folks or the older crowd. I see you.

I see you. I know they're going to be, Joe. Don't worry about this, Joe. Hey, Joe, listen, we're going to have old folks time. We're going to be, we're going to bowl, we're going to go fishing, we're going to play pool. First of all, I already know you don't know nothing about no fish. We're going to court. We don't know how to put anything.

You don't know how to set no hook, you don't have set no line. You don't know nothing about no fishing. You don't. Hey, hey, oh, wait a minute. Hey, that's how I know. Hey, that's how I know he don't know about me. I'm from Miami. Oh.

But I used to catch Goliath Grouper back in 83. You catch what kind of grouper? Goliaths. First of all, they put your ass in jail. You catch a Goliath grouper. Hey, hold on. I threw him back. Yeah, that's what I said.

You better throw his ass back. I threw him back. You don't throw it back. They're going to throw your ass in jail. You can't keep your Goliard. Hey. Yeah, hey, but listen, listen, statement real quick.

Real quick, they used to take me. They used to take me the fisherman. They call him captain. Captain Jack, Captain Jack used to take me deep sea fishing. We used to catch Goliath Ruper. Matter of fact, when he couldn't bring it in, I used to get in the water, right? You don't actually go fishing for Goliath Ruper.

They actually, like, just bite. So what were you actually fishing for? We caught him by accident. We caught him by accident. He would like 630 pounds. So what were you actually fishing for? Snapper, were you fishing for tuna, brezino? What were you actually fishing for?

Tuna. This boy here. Hey, we were fishing but tuna. All right. I tell you what, Joe. I'll oblige you. We'll go, we'll go deep sea fishing. We go shore fishing.

We go whatever. We go, we go bass fishing. We can go crappie fishing. We can go sheephead fishing. Hold on. Hold on. Blank drum. Hey, whatever.

Wait a minute. Let's do the hardest one. Let's do the hardest one. Let's go spear fishing. Babe. Let's go spear fishing. Yeah, okay, okay, okay. Yeah, I'm a nomad.

I can hold my bread by six minutes. Oh, Lord, have mercy. Smith, let's go, Spiffish. I'll tell you what. Yeah, hey, hey, I'm a free dime. Look, we can go catch perch. We can catch bluegill. We can go fish whatever.

I'm not going hunting with you. First of all, I'm going to need you to get six months of your gun training before I go hunt with you. Because you're not fit to shoot me in my ass. Hey, no, no, I ain't going to shoot you. I, listen, I ain't going to, I ain't going to shoot you. Hell no. But you know how to, hey, oh, hey, stay with me now. I know how to broke a pistol, you hear me?

First of all, who's going hunting with a pistol? What the hell you hunt for? What you're hunting with? Hey, hold on. Hey, hold on. I use a 12-gauge or we taking a high-power rifle, 30-30, 30-0-60-30, 30-608, something like that. Look, I got my switch.

I don't need all that. There ain't anybody going to damn switching O'Dell. But see, what I'm trying to talk about. Chat. You see what I'm saying. Hey, Joe, he's tripping. Hey, Joe, he's going to be showing how I'm a hunting. You're going to be going to the club.

I'm going to the woods. I'm trying to, we're going to get rat, a white tail. We're going to get, we're going to kill hogs or something. He'll up there talk about some wood giant. Or we go quail hunting, pheasant hunting. I don't care. But I need him to get some training because I'm not going nowhere with no gun with Ocho. And he ain't never shot a gun a day in the damn life.

He didn't finish with my ass. Hey, listen, me and the homies, we used to go paintball and we just go paintball and we divide up in 10. It'd be like 5 over 10. Then we split up out in the woods and they come back and he'd say, man, I can't be on this dude team team. This dude that shot me in my face. Exactly.

Man, that's somebody. He ain't talking about he going hunting. He's bad talking about he going hunting with a pistol. Who the hell hunting with a pistol? Uh-oh. There he go. Joe, hey, the animals ain't even going to see me coming, Joe. Oh, man.

Hey, they ain't going to see me coming, Joe. Oh, Joe. Do you know how to get in the tree stand? Yeah. Do I know how to get in the tree stand? But, hey, I had a tree house. Hell no. I built a tree house back in.

Joe, I had a tree house when I was 13. That tree house, he got a tree by myself. This man don't know how to, this man don't know how to stand and no tree stand. He don't know how to sit still. He, first of all. No, he ain't going to be quiet. Hold on, wait a minute. I went with Carson Palmer.

I went with Carson Palmer. I went with Carson and Jordan Palmer. They took me deer hunting. I was in the tree stand for seven hours. I had to douse myself with people. Yeah, dope is. Oh, excuse me. But anyway, Ocho, Joe, he's going to go out there with Creed on

and all the animal will go smell his ass from a mile away. Hell no. I ain't going to nowhere with you. He doesn't got on. No. No. No. He don't know how to.

He don't know how to. He don't know how to. to stay down he don't know how to stay oh no i'm a chill hey joe everything everything he talked about i done did joe i don't did i just i just it's not something that i'm that i'm excited about but i've done everything once joe i done everything once all the hunt and all that fish and all that deer hunting all that deer you know how to stay down win oh joe you know how to stay down win yeah you ain't got no choice but to stay down win because if you don't stay down when they're gonna know you there they got the hey listen them anos that they got the greatest

This is a smell of all species. That's why I have not going with you because you're going out there with Cologne on. I ain't going to wear no Cologne. Uncle, I ain't even shouted three days. Hey, he ought to wear no camouflage. He out there with a red Cristiano-Rinolado jersey. Until my dad, oh.

What an animal that, huh? Because they smell and they see your ass with that big on red jersey on that with a F there. He don't know where no camouflage. Man, I ain't fooling with those Joe bad. Man, he don't know how to dress, man, he ain't got no gear. Boy, listen. Hey, I got, I got some camouflage, young.

Hey, listen, I ain't going to lie. I ain't going to lie. That'll be a sight to see, boy. Yeah. That's why we're going to stream it. We're going to stream it 24-7. I don't tell you. I know how to hunt.

If we go to squirrel hunting, we go a rabbit hunt, we go a quail hunting. First of all, Ocho, you ain't never shot no gun. You never shot no animal on the move. Hold on time out, um, I didn't hit squirrels back in the day, uh, I didn't hit raccoons and a possum down here, Matt. What do you shoot with that BB gun, that pelagon? Who me? Yeah.

Oh, no, I had a 64. A 64. What the hell is that? Yeah. Yeah, see, that's what I'm talking about. That's how I know you ain't no shooting. First of all. You ain't know what a 64 is, yeah.

First of all, that's what we carry, hey, that's what we carried down here in the crib. No, first of all, I'm telling you. You shoot Squirrel, first of all, you use a rifle, man, because it's a small animal. but you don't want to mess up to meet you. No, no, no, no. Let me tell you something. Hey, Joe, anytime you shoot a squirrel, you got to set an example.

What you said an example before? You want to eat the squirrel. Let me take it. For the rest of the squirrels, then I'm not the one to play with it. Don't come right here with that bull, John. Don't come right here. Hey, you kill an ant with a sledge,

you ain't got to worry about no ants. But what you're trying to do because you're going to eat the squirrel, Ocho, if you shoot him with a shotgun, you're going to mess you're going to mess that way ain't going to be nothing there oh you want to eat yeah yeah what the hell is fuck oh no no no no no no no no I'm shooting the squirrel to set an example for the rest of the squirrels not to come over here messing with the mangoes in the tree I don't care the squirrels come first of all oh sure we going out we ain't shoot no city squirrels

I don't care about that first of all you go into jail I come from the city we're not eating the squirrels yeah we're not eating the squirrels in the city you eat the squirrels that's what I'm saying that's what we're going to hunt you can't hunting the city no but I'm saying I mean I can adapt oh that's what that's what life is about it's about adapting so I can adapt to what you like to do if I got to be in the woods I know how to have you ever shot a shotgun before a 12 gauge 410 20 gauge have you ever shot a high power rifle 306 30 30 30 30 30 30 30 30 8 let me before before football uncle I was in the field you hear me hey I uh hey hey Joe I don't know how bad I just I

Joe, I would like that, Joe. On Sweet Jesus, I was like that. I'm telling you. You would like. I ain't played. You would like the Yans out here? Man, listen, Joe, I'm not proud of that lifestyle. I used to live back in 87.

But see, first of all, the Y, that's, I mean, shooting somebody at point. It's not like they shooting somebody from a distance. You're not fin to walk. You're not going to shoot an animal as close as somebody shooting a human being. You do realize it's like three, you're like 10 feet less than 25 yards from each other. You're shooting an animal from distance, oh, Joe? You do know, you do know I was, I was in the Marines, right? You do know it's in the Marines, right?

Do you do, you do know I was a sniper, right? Yeah, you were a sniper, huh? Yeah. Oh, Lord of mercy. Hey, I hit a target from 420 feet, Joe. 420 feet at the bottle top, the bottle top off of a Coke bottle. You know, ain't, no, that man ain't shooting, hitting nothing over no 100 yards.

That's fat. Hey, Joe, 420 feet. He might not hit a person from 100 yards away, let alone a damn bottle top. Joe, this is how you did a bad. Hey, Joe, I laugh for you before I lie to you, Joe. Hey. I knocked a bottle top off a Coke bottle from 420 feet and I only got one out.

Do you know how hard it is to hit an object from that far away, that small? Let me ask you a question. Take your glasses off. Take your glasses off. Take your glasses up. Take your glasses up. Holy, put the gun up, put the gun, okay, you got the gun. How you shooting?

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, hell, that man got a sling shot. This man got a slingshot, Joe. Hey, Joe. This man got a sling shot. Second of all, you shoots from that distance.

You got both eyes open, Ocho. You not shoot from no one I could. I thought this man got a slings shot, Joe. This man would be thinking he, he, he, shooting Goliath. He's David. Hey, Joe. Hey, hey, ain't going to lie. I ain't going to lie. Okay, Ocho, boy, that'll be some must-see TV, boy. I'm telling you. Hey, hey, hey, I'm not going to like, uh, Ocho, I don't think you can hit Nate thing out there. Hey, hey, hey, listen, that's, that's what I like people. That's what I like people to think. I can't hit that. But then

they get hit. It's like, oh, he really liked that. Ocho, if you were to, like, try to shoot somebody, because you got to understand the distance. in which you are but I'm talking about an animal I'm talking about a deer I'm talking about a hog I'm talking about I can hit up in the tree I'm talking about a quail because here's the thing let's just say we take dogs out so the dogs go start tripping it's gonna start creeping up now they're gonna put they're gonna freeze and not yeah yeah hey um I used to have I used to have pointers I used to have points I live in the city yeah yeah y'all blebo choking shoot

I mean, look at Ocho, the way he aiming and shooting that sling shot, he's not about to hit nothing. All right. I'm telling you. Hey, I'm, Uncle, I'm a surprise you right there. Duh.

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