Club Shay Shay - Nightcap Hour 1: Lane Kiffin’s DECISION: LSU or Florida?! + Arch Manning BIG PERFORMANCE + Diego Pavia SHINES in win over Kentucky + Notre Dame HANGS 70 on Syracuse
Episode Date: November 23, 2025Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson react to LSU and Florida eyeing Lane Kiffin, Arch Manning and Diego Pavia’s career nights, Notre Dame hangs 70 on Syracuse and looking for...ward to the CFP landscape! 4:30 - Tennessee beats Florida30:13 - Arch Manning prob had best career performance tonight34:35 - Diego Pavia threw for a career-high tonight38:44 - Oregon beat USC43:27 - Notre Dame beat Syracuse1:01:50 - Top 50 running backs since 2000 (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Ocho, I mean, look, we know Florida's going to,
they've already fired their coach.
They're going to have a new head coach.
Yes.
LSU is going to have a new head coach.
Yes.
Now, you know, you hear rumors saying like Lane Kiffin is kind of leaning towards
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We don't know.
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Does the Florida Gator hopes pin
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You know what? I have no idea.
I think Lane Kiffin would have been a great coach.
He could have got recruits in there,
some five stars, some actual players.
But I think the offer that we've seen,
I saw it on Twitter as well,
with 90 million being offered to Lane Kiffin
with 25 million for the roster.
as far as being able to bring
kids in, I think
he's already locked up. Now, as far as the coach
that can be also
attracted, just not the gated,
but also players coming in
high school, players that are, that
hit the portal. Yeah, that
want to come to Florida and play. I'm
not sure who that coach is. I'm not
sure who it is at all. I think Florida right now,
they're in the tough spot.
They didn't play
well. Forget the, forget the
day. They had some good
games throughout the season, but then nothing like the Florida Gators of old where they would
always be able to compete against the best to the best weekend and week out. I think that Florida
Gator team or teams like that are long gone. Three SEC schools have their sight set on Lane
Kippet. Obviously, the school that he's currently at, Ole Miss, Florida Gators and the LSU Tigers.
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of what Lane decides to do.
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Kiffin is expected to announce his future
after next week's rivalry game against the Mississippi State Bulldogs,
which we currently know as the Egg Bowl.
Ocho, do you agree with Coach Sabin?
There needs to be some uniformity
about when these coaches, when other universities
can talk to coaches and when coaches can actually leave
because as he mentioned, we've seen it before.
Most notably that's done it before is Brian Kelly.
We saw him leave Cincinnati and go to Notre Dame.
We see him.
And so we see this.
This is not the first time that it's happened.
And as Coach Saban says, you know,
a lot of times if a player gets hurt,
it decides whether or not they get to go to a bowl game.
Right.
Or the type of bowl game that they go to.
We saw this happen with Florida State last year.
They got the brakes beat off of them.
But Lane Kiffin leaving before Ole Miss,
they might be very, very reluctant to have them play in the college football playoff,
if your head coach leave it and you have an interim head coach.
So where are you on this?
I don't think it really affects him.
Whether Lane Kiffin leaves or not, but let's go back to protocol.
The way business should be handled when it comes to other organizations or entities
talking to coaches,
in this situation, Lane Kippman
while he's still an Ole Miss. If a coach
is playing bad and his team
is losing, right? Is there a business and
protocol or what's that word?
Conundrum. Yeah, that's new for me.
I'm going to write that one down in my nose. Penundrum.
Is that conundrum before he gets fired? Then he
get fired right on the spot? Or do they
handle the business and wait until the season over to let him go?
They fire him during the season.
Okay, there we go.
There we go. So you believe you should be able
to like, obviously, the coaches are not
leaving during the season. But you believe
like once the season is over,
not be able to coach in the bowl game
because it's like an NFL.
The NFL, they can fire you,
but you can't talk to a coach,
another coach can't leave and say,
you know what,
my season is over,
let me go because they changed that rule.
Remember Lane Kippen was the offensive coordinator
at the Rams.
The Rams were out of the playoffs.
He ends up going back coaching for the Patriots.
So they changed that rule now.
So once everybody's season is over,
you can't have a coach go help
with the offense or defense
or be a special assistant.
Right.
if he had another job.
With that being said, the NFL, Ocho, you know if a coach,
we saw this with, what, uh, A.G. Aaron Glenn.
We saw Ben Johnson.
We saw a lot of different coaches get head coaching jobs that was O.C. or D.C.,
but they weren't able to leave those jobs until their team season was finished.
Right.
They kept like, oh, I'm a head coach of a new team.
Now, damn, y'all, if the playoffs, I be damn, I got to go get ready for my new team.
So you believe, well, if they find,
coach during the season that once the season is over that coach should be able to leave his post
with a head coach or offensive coordinator and go coach at another school listen when you get fired
you got to leave ASAP don't you you got to pack your things you got to get your U-Haul and you
got to get up out of there now this i think with lane kibbin situation at old miss i think he's going
to finish the season now conversations can be had with whatever program you want to so you understand
what the foresee of your future is going to look like and where you want to go so you can get a
head start and preparing on where you're going to go and still be able to finish your season at
old miss do the egg bowl and if just so happened if you guys make the make the playoffs if it if it does
happen and still be able to coach yourself through that and then obviously the next season when it
follows through here you got six goddamn months you got six months to prepare for that do all the
contractual stuff that needs to be done and and it's overweight and it also lets players know that
might have been coming to old miss now you have an opportunity to transfer get in the portal
and come on down at the LSU if that is this destination place.
Yeah, I definitely think they need some uniformity.
I think they need to have a window in which a guy,
which, you know, collegiate teams or coaches can talk to other players
about entering the portal, have an opportunity once the portal open
and be done with it.
Yeah.
I think eventually, Ocho, they're going to start doing,
they're going to do away with spring games.
Yes.
Because I'm not going to let you get a look at my players.
So that you open up the window, the window opens up,
and the player wants to leave, he wants to leave,
and we'll move on from there.
It's just tough because for the longest time,
NCAA has monopolized the situation,
and once they did a way,
once we kind of got this NIL program,
it became kind of the Wild Wild West, Ocho.
And so there are really no rules and regulations.
And I think you've got to have some rules and regulation.
You just can't have arbitraria.
And it's got to be a situation, Ocho, you can't have a guy.
But you know what?
I got a million dollars to go to Florida.
man, Florida ain't do it right.
Hey, Arkansas, Georgia,
somebody's what y'all got?
He leaves there, he goes there.
Man, y'all have some bull job over here too
and just jump, jump, jump, jump.
I don't think a player should be able to do that.
Whoa, wait a minute.
No, that's not fair.
Don't do that.
Don't regulate us now.
Now that we have the opportunity
and the rabbit got the gun, that's not fair.
Listen, there were no rules and regulations.
We need schools monopolizing
and making all this money off these players' likeness.
Now all of a sudden the players have an opportunity
to cut the middleman out.
and now we get to get some money, you know,
for our liking to be able to hop from school to school.
When coaches have been able to hop from school to school
when they want to, now is something you want to regulate.
But the coaches ain't jumping every year, Ocho.
Huh?
Coaches, they jump in every year.
I mean, even if they, hey, listen.
It's got to the point now, Ocho, it's just hard.
These guys, the players have gotten so sensitive.
Ocho, if I coach you hard, I got to worry about you jumping in the portal.
Mm-hmm.
Hey, but listen, matter of fact, let me tell you something.
The ones that's like that, the one that's jumping in the portal back and forth,
back and forth and it can't be coach hard they really ain't like that anyway um but if i
go get money somewhere else why wouldn't they they really not the one they for one those are
not the ones that's going to make it to the next level anyway if you hopping from portal to
portal for for whatever the issues may be oh my coaching coaching me too hard or i'm not getting
the opportunity to play unless you that guy it doesn't matter anyway they're not going to impact
your team whether they stay or go think about it just think about all the good all the really
really really good players they hop in the portal for an opportunity to actually start
and showcase their talent.
Okay, so now I get there, I get some money
and things don't go as well as I hope to.
Now you just up and go leave again.
Because you know it's just like a player, Ocho.
You get drafted in the first round.
Even if you're some slow,
you're going to get opportunities
because that was not the only team
that had you graded in the first round.
So somebody else is going to give you an opportunity.
You know the how you drafted,
the more opportunities you're going to get.
Yes.
So a guy comes out and he's a five star,
even if he goes to a university
and they give him, let's just say
a half a million dollars.
We don't got to talk about anything astronomical.
Let's just say he gets a half a million dollars.
Also, even if it doesn't work out there,
somebody's going to give him some money to jump into the portal
because he was a five star.
And they're not a five star that just has one offer.
If you're a five star, you've got multiple offers.
And there are a lot of times they're probably 10, 15,
big time schools, Ohio State, Alabama, Georgia,
Florida, Texas, Tennessee, so forth and so on.
So those opportunities,
will present themselves.
I just like, we've got,
there used to be no speed limit.
Right.
But at some point in time,
we have to have rules and regulations,
and no matter what the case in,
there used to be no rules and regulations
on banking or,
or mining or anything like that.
I just think you're asking for trouble
as long as you don't have rules and regulations.
I think some point in time,
you have to put rules and regulations in.
But there's no trouble in that.
If a player wants to leave,
he should be able to leave.
You shouldn't be able to regulate that.
That doesn't make any sense.
It's like if you're in school, let's say no money's involved.
And you're in school, hell, I go to FAMU.
You know what, I want to leave FAMU?
I want to go to Bethune Cookman.
You know what, I don't like it here.
You know what?
I want to go to Howard.
You should be able to hop and bounce as you see fit.
Now, how about this?
You just got to pay my money back.
Bingo.
Why would that just get ready to send it?
You want to have rules and regulations?
Hey, if I choose to leave, a percentage of that money,
a percentage of that NIL money has to go back okay okay how about that now that
that makes a little bit more sense but restricting that that that makes you go where they
want to lead because I had tried to get oh try to get you no refund right right yeah you're right
because it's kind of it's kind of like rent well if i stay past the due date you're gonna have to
pro so you're gonna have to prorate it yeah what about a time whoa whoa but i'm i'm leaving on the
tent right you mean to tell me i got to pay a full month rent and i ain't there but 10 days
yeah yep because you didn't get your ass out on the
first so it's it's excuse me it's going to be tough because Ocho like you said once we get accustomed
to something it's hard to get us uncustom to that yes because for the most part once the NIL hit
it was just like a free-for-all now all of a sudden you're going to put some caps on it's like
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Right.
So it's going to be very interesting because you know, you know, I know, it's coming.
They're not going to just let, just let guys just arbitrarily just get five, six, seven million dollars.
And you know what?
Wait, oh, oh, oh, it's only a few of them, huh?
It's only about two or three at them.
So it's not like all of them are getting that.
Now, the players that's getting that kind of money, did Jeremiah Smith, the Archmannings?
We talk about the best of the best.
Everybody ain't eating like that.
No, but I'm saying they're going to, they're going to, they're going to put.
the cap because here's the thing oh you do realize like once a guy start getting paid I get
to treat him as such you show up late for meeting I find you you miss weight I find you you know
you late for birth you curfew study hall I find you because theoretically although you're a collegial
athlete an amateur athlete you're getting paid so now you're a professional so I have to treat you as
such because that's what would happen if you're in the NFL if you're late for a meeting you miss a meeting
you're late to practice you miss practice right or
or a team scheduled function, you missed that
or you're late to that, you get fine.
You have to be under the same guidelines.
Because for the longest time, Ocho, we've forgiven it's like,
oh man, these are kids, these are college kids.
I mean, they were making a little money,
you know, they make a little hush on the side.
But it wasn't like what it is.
Now, these guys making 50, 100,000,
200,000, 200,000, three, four, five million.
So I think the thing is that we've kind of taken,
we've kind of taken the reins off, Ocho.
And we, we judge these kids a little harsher now
and what we did, say, when we were in school
or the last, say, last 10 years.
Yeah.
Now we don't look at these kids like, bro, he's making money.
Jeremiah Smith making $4 million a year.
There's some receivers in the NFL that don't make $4 million a year.
And those receivers that don't make $40 million in the NFL,
they ain't Jeremiah Smith either.
He'd make that for a reason.
Normally, you would expect a professional to make more than an amateur.
I mean, you would, wouldn't you?
Can I tell you something?
If that's the case, who would want to be on?
pro why not just stand amateur let me let me tell you something there's a reason he makes the four
million dollars he makes even those that are already in the NFL they don't look like him it all
comes down wait let me see he don't make for a million he makes a million how he looking
hold on oh he's looking real good right now he's looking real good and it's also about timing
it's all it's also about timing you know when nil happened so it's kind of it's kind of different
did you not see him in the rose bowl did you not see jackson's
But, hey, I'm sure he got something.
It wasn't know that.
That might have been the greatest receiving performance.
I saw this guy.
He was at Louisiana.
I forget he ended up going to the Steelers.
He ended up having 400 yards.
The short, the short guy.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
It didn't work out for him in the NFL.
Yeah.
But he had him a day against Nebraska.
I agree.
It's just tough, Ocho.
Yeah.
It's, you know, I think the thing is that because we look at free agency
and we look at baseball, we look at basketball,
ball. We say, okay, that's free agency. A pitcher can make $50 million, $70 million a year.
A first base can make whatever. It's not slotted. What quarterbacks make this,
running backs make this, and wide receivers make that. And then you got a cap. Well, that's
theoretically. That's not free agency. If the market should bear should set what a player can
make. In college, the market sets it. It ain't no, you can't say, well, Jeremiah, man,
you all the receiver. You can't get no four men.
Wait a minute. I don't know. I don't think it's the market.
The market doesn't set it. The actual player sets it.
No, but in the NFL, we don't have, we don't have a market because there's no free agency.
See, free agency. I got to be totally free with no restrictions. No salary cap over here,
no this or that. You can't franchise me. You don't have no right or first refusal.
Hey, my time is up until you work a regular job. Your contract in, I'm free to.
to go if I'm at Google yeah I'm free to go work for Apple okay I got free to go
work for Microsoft mm-hmm that's in my estimation that's how it should be
I got a problem is free market hey I got a product to sell you know what
Ocho I got this phone to sell mm-hmm you shouldn't be able to say well I can
only sell this phone for $500 that ain't free that's no free market I should
be able to if I want to sell this phone for $10,000 I should be able to do it
right if the market were bare that if there are people out there to pay
it yeah so be it yeah i mean i got you i got you i kind i kind of i kind of like how it is
where it's free flowing you know players can actually choose and do what they want to do
because for so many years wasn't nobody saying that when all these universities were making
goobs billions of these players like this and now they now that they get opportunity to
take advantage you know not not really take advantage but get with their oath based off their
likeness and their skill set i think i think they should have free reign to do so
Yeah, I mean, look at all the great players that came before.
And yeah, Ocho, they got a little couple of bucks on the side here there.
Oh, it ain't none like that.
They got a little car here.
They got some jewelry there.
But they ain't get no money like what these kids making now.
Yeah.
And I ain't mad at him.
Because you look at a guy like Arch Manning, Arch Manning going to be in a hat.
He's going to be in stashed about $12 million by the time he gets to the NFA.
And the funny thing about it, look at all the stories.
Look at all the horror stories we've heard where collegiate athletes get in trouble because
they're hungry, taking clothes, stealing stuff.
yeah yeah i just just food not having to be able to eat like like it's it's been too much too many
have gotten in trouble so now they have an opportunity to be able to fend for themselves
uh take care their families a little earlier than than normal not having to wait on the
NFL check i think just let let it be let it be no they they're going to put some rules
they go put some rules in place because right now there's not a whole lot of rules even the nCA even
with the Congress and try to say, look, we got, we got to have something about it.
We got to, and I agree with Coach Saber, the coaches, once your season is officially open,
I don't believe you should not.
So now, guy laying here, but let's just say he gets to, suppose the coach, he takes this job
after the Egg Bowl.
Right.
He's supposed to coach in the SEC championship.
He's like, nah, I ain't going to coach.
I'm going down here to my team.
Or he gets an opportunity to go play in the college football.
Nah, I don't go ahead.
No, no.
What is that?
Hold on.
I give you a prime example, Coach Schembeckler.
You remember who was the guy that left?
They were in the national,
they were going to,
and the NCAA tournament.
Right.
And the guy had accepted another job.
And Bo Schenbeck would say,
nah, he ain't going to stay.
We want a Michigan man.
I think it was Fisher.
They ended up getting the interim job.
Right.
And coaching him.
And they ended up winning the national championship in 1989.
But Bo Schenberg would say,
nah, nah, you go ahead and go where you're going to go.
Right.
We don't need you to wait here because I want a Michigan man
to coach a Michigan team,
not somebody that's,
at Michigan right now,
but he's already accepted the job
and going to do somewhere the moment I've seen.
Yeah, I don't think Lane will do that.
I think he's going to finish the task at hand.
He's going to finish the assignment.
You know, he started the season.
I know, Ole Miss is hoping.
Huh?
Oleis is hoping that he does that.
Oh, yeah.
Think about it.
I say he finished.
He won't finish.
I didn't say he was saying.
No, no, no.
I'm saying they're hoping that he does.
Yeah.
He does what you said he's going to do.
Yeah.
If they get an opportunity,
if they're fortunate enough to play in the SEC
title or they get a college football playoff birth.
Hopefully, because old miss, I mean,
when you think of old miss and you think of like, okay,
when the next time they're going to get an opportunity
to play in a college football player?
Yeah.
I mean, since Lane, they've gotten guys that go into the NFL
and got played playing at a high level.
So, you know, sometimes this is a once in a lifetime opportunity.
Right.
Hopefully you're right that they get, he gets this, uh,
because I believe he's gone.
It's just that these other.
programs can offer what old miss can yes yeah you're right you right i mean shoot i mean who else who would
stay who would stay with the numbers that we saw today oh jo that's a lot of money that's a lot of money
that's a lot that's a lot of money um and and maybe old miss could you know give him i don't know
what is it a nine or what is the eight year deal how many how many years is the deal yeah
it's 90 million is it 10 years that's nine million a year is it eight years 11 and a half a year a
year I mean what's the deal I think Kirby makes like 13
ooh who seven years seven years wow so so that's about that's that's
that's that's 13 numbers that's that's that's Kirby's number hey but it's
it's just it's just hard oh Joe it's gonna it's just hard to turn that kind of
money down yeah and it's not because all those programs and he's done a great job
of building oh it's 14 oh
So it's $98 million.
Oh, seven years, 98 million.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
Because it's, oh, Joe, it's hard.
Now, if that's a preamint of program,
let's just say that's Ohio State.
Right.
That's Notre Dame.
That's Alabama.
That's Michigan.
That's USC.
Right.
We get it.
Him staying if they match it.
Right.
Ole Miss is not the same tier as Florida in the same conference,
but it's not the same tier as Ohio State.
It's not Georgia.
It's not Alabama.
It's not Florida.
not LSU, it's not Texas, it's not Oklahoma, it's just not.
Yeah, I mean, it's true.
And so, man, it'd be hard to turn that kind of money down.
I mean, shh, man, turn that down, man, please.
Listen, Lane Kiffen get there, man.
And that kind of money, he turned it down, but callers.
He'd get there.
You understand the type of players he can get, he can attract, you know,
those people jumping in the portal.
There's a good chance they might look like they did back in 2019.
I'm not saying they're going to have a Joe Burrow.
I'm not saying they're going to have a Jamar Chase to Justin,
but they can get back to that.
If he can turn the Ole Miss around the way he did,
he could damn show turn LSU around.
We saw what he did at Alabama.
Yeah.
When he had Amari Cooper and he had those guys.
So just imagine him getting a tier,
a little notch more, four and five stars,
bigger guys from the portal with the way he can call plays offensively.
Yeah.
Because you could say what you want to say.
You can say he's arrogant and all that other stuff,
but there ain't no denying that he can call.
He's one of the great minds.
in college football.
And I don't know, hey, he's been to Tennessee.
He's been to Ole Miss.
Now he's coached Alabama.
Now he's about to be at LSU seemingly.
That's good.
All eras are pointing in that direction.
So 14 million, Ocho, I don't know, Ocho.
What's up?
Oh, so you think about coaching now, huh?
You see what I told you?
Think about it.
No, I can't be on the road.
But back, listen, listen.
Head coach, head coach sharp.
What do you can't be?
you on the road because what back bad okay but listen you just coach the home games no problem
ain't no problem you just coach the home games i be your assistant head coach and i take over
the games on the road boom problem solved huh hey you know hey um can i tell you something can i tell you
something with i just heard right a little birdie now i'm not sure things when you see stuff like
this most of the time if they're smoked there's a fire somewhere that the head coach the head coaching
is going to be available down there FAMU.
Now, I mean, what you think about me
and you're going down to FAMU moving to
Tallahassee. You can coach
all the games at home. All the games
on the road, I take over. Think about all the players
we can get in the portal to come on down there
to Tallahassee. Why would I go
coach another HBCU school?
Because your HBCU don't got the kind of money
we got down there.
Well, it wouldn't be about the money. For me?
The hell it doesn't. The devil's, man.
battle state to do well if any orange team any team that got orange in their uniform at an hbc you
do well is damn sure gonna be now you heard that lie you just told i'm it's a good thing it ain't
sunday talk about anything about the money the hell it ain't if it wasn't about the money lay
kiffin to be staying right and goddamn old miss oh joe i've said it's not about the money for me
and also you go into an hbc ucho you go into an hbcc you they're not been to pay you no 14
million you not don't let even get a million slow that so slim it down simmer down simmer down
you don't know what we got we you don't know what you don't know what we got you hear me
probably the high pay hbc you coach probably make three to 400 000 hey um let me tell you
something man i listen uh yeah michael big's the highest pay he made 400 k so what you trying to do
you're trying to get his money in that i give you hey we hey listen i i talk i talk to the program
we give you 500 we give you 500 5 million uh nfl uh n i rossam roston rossamone
Tell him, no.
And you can bring the dog with you.
Oh, look, boom.
No.
Woo-woo.
Teddy said no go.
It's all good.
And, uh, listen, I'm just, listen.
You said they got gators in Florida.
And they'd be trying to get me.
Yeah, he'd be all right.
He'd be all right.
They're going to speed him right back out.
I'm just, hey, listen, I'm just trying to diversify you.
I mean, uh, Phanos, they, well, they definitely get, uh, Teddy,
because Teddy came.
run. At least Thanos might be
able to get away. Can you get away?
All you got to do is zigzag up. You know, gaiters only fast in a straight line.
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Oh, Joe, Arch Manning.
Yeah.
Arch Manning probably had his best performance in his career at Texas.
Yes, sir.
He threw for a career high 389 yards,
the count of a six total touchdown,
and a 5237 win over the Razorbacks.
Manning did something not even Ben Young
or any other team.
Texas quarterback had ever done at the university.
He became the first player in school history to catch a touchdown,
throw a touchdown, and rush for a touchdown.
Look, I don't want to get,
I don't want to get too far over my skis.
Yeah.
Because it was Arkansas.
But yeah.
When you do something that a university that's a hundred and 25,
150 years old and no other quarterback had ever done that in history,
you know, we got to give it kudos.
Even though it was against Arkansas.
Right.
Um, it's still, he still had himself a day.
18 to 30, 389, 4 touchdowns, no interceptions.
They still can't run the damn football.
So he had to throw it like that.
Yeah.
Uh, but Livingston had two for 104 and a touchdown.
Mosul of the field, four for 81.
Ringo, six for 81 more three for 74.
So they had, they, they, he had a day throwing the football.
Yeah, they just, but I think in order for them to be what they really want to be,
Ocho.
Yeah.
They got to have.
some resemblance of a run game.
Well, you know, you know what?
They got to have a run game, but I like this for Arch.
I like it for Ars because you're going to get in the games where you can't run the ball
and the fact that your run game has been your Achilles Hill all season long
you haven't been able to run and teams are making you one-dimensional.
I know they played Arkansas.
But the fact that you are one-dimensional and you're able to be successful, you know,
doing what you struggle with, you know, throughout damn the whole season, you know,
as far as the passing game is concerned.
And for Ars to go out there and have a game like he did, like he had a day,
four TDs for 389.
I would like some of the other receivers that play for Texas to step up.
I would like some of those for those other receivers to step up because I think of Texas.
I think of one of the schools that should be somewhat equivalent to the LSUs in the Ohio
States as far as pumping out, you know, top tier receivers that should be going into the first
round.
And I just haven't seen that yet this year.
Ringo, who I thought was supposed to be that guy, he hasn't just, he hasn't shown me enough
this year. You know, outside of that, Archmanney, I'm glad to see them playing well. Again,
even though they play, we want to, you want to steer caution to win because they were playing
Arkansas. We'll see what happens. Who's fired their coach during the season. Yeah, yeah. I'm curious.
I mean, we got Arkansas that fired their coach, Florida that fired their school coach, LSU. So we got
three coaches in the SEC that got fired in the middle of the season. I have one question. Do
that, do, does Texas have another test before the season ends? Oh, yeah, A&M.
Okay, ooh, shoot.
Next week.
Hey, now see, now that's going to be,
please tell me they're playing in Texas A&M so I can go to the game.
They play it in Texas.
Damn it, I don't know nobody at Texas.
And so that's, now he puts a performance like this against A&M.
Oh, now, let's talk.
Let's talk.
That we can talk.
Yes, sir.
Yes, sir.
And listen, with the confidence, with the confidence he's built in this game and, you know,
the San Jose, even though those games don't count,
being able to put a performance like this,
regards to who you're playing, you go into Texas A&M next week with that confidence already
built up, listen, he might throw for 500.
You never know.
You never know.
Sark said Ben's young came with at the game and came up to him after saying, man, I wish
I could have had a play like that.
Oh, you're talking about like the Philly, the Philly special?
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, that was nice.
That was nice.
Well, Vince, you did everything else.
Damn, you won a single-handling won a national championship, do?
I mean, you put on, you put on one of the greatest performances.
And championship, history.
Yep.
I mean, and then the year before, you did a number on Michigan.
Yeah, I think he almost threw for 200 and ran for 200.
So he had, he put together a year and then to do what he did against Alabama,
against USC that was going for a third straight national championship.
When they had all those guys, Matthew Lauer, Reggie Bush, Lyndall White, you know,
they had Cushin, they had Clay Matthews Jr.
They had a squad over there.
And Vince Young said, nah.
They had a squad.
Stars were shining on Texas that night.
Diego Pavia threw for a career high 484 yards, Ocho.
five touchdown as the number 14 Vanderbilt Cometores beat the Kentucky Wildcats by the score of 4517.
That's not fair.
The Commodores kept their host for a college football playoff birth alive going into the regular season finale.
That's not fair.
who struck yet another Heisman pose celebrating with his teammates,
set the program record topping 464 passing yards by Whit Taylor had
against Tennessee in 1981.
Pavia ran for another 48 yards and a sixth score.
Vandy coach Clark Lear said he's the best player in the country
and deserves to be in the Heisman conversation.
He tips the field when he steps on it.
There's only a few players in the world that when the ball's in their hand,
you can't, that can take over.
game and he's done that repeatedly here.
Yeah. According to her Vegas, Fernando Mendoza still holds the highest
Heisman trophy odds at minus 120.
Meanwhile, Jordan, uh, saying holds the second best at 360, Diego Pavia improved his
odds to plus 650.
Oh, Joe?
Yeah.
Um, he was 33 or 39.
4.84, 5 touchdown to one of the session.
He was their leading rusher.
Um, and again, here is a team that really couldn't run the football.
fall today, Ocho, 25 carry, 65 yards, not even, you know, three yards of carry.
But he was able to do it.
He had two receivers over 100 yards.
Richardson had six for a buck 59, three tubs.
Cheryl had eight, one, 15th, and a tub.
He did a little bit of everything.
Like I said, he ran for a touchdown, and he threw for five more six total touchdown.
That's crazy.
I mean, even that interception, you know, it kind of, it is what it is.
it didn't affect the outcome of the game but this is another game though um this is another
game just like the texas game you're playing arkansas they play in kentucky they play in kentucky
kentucky's not very good offensively and defensively i'm sorry to all those wildcats out there
including my daughter who goes university kentucky but pavia did what you're supposed to do
against an inferior opponent you're supposed to though 44 you're supposed to look like this
the receiver is supposed to go off the way they did so this this is a great game for him
as far as his heisman hopes i would have them to have a game like that you're supposed to have a game
like this against some of the bigger schools,
some of the bigger schools.
Like he would play when he played Alabama?
Bingo, like when you play Alabama's now you have a performance.
But they meet LSU, he had a book game.
I mean, I said Jordan saying, if Julian's saying.
So, yeah, yeah, but.
Ohio State quarterback.
But look, Mendoza's played really, really well.
We'll see what he looks like when they play Ohio State
in the Big 12 championship game.
That seems to be, that's going to be a matchup.
And we'll see.
That's next week.
Huh?
That's next week?
No, no, no, no, no, no.
Next week is Ohio State, Michigan.
That's probably the following week.
Okay.
So we'll get a better, we'll get a better sense about Mendoza.
We'll get a better sense about saying.
Saying, yeah.
Because those are two, you know, the one and two teams in the country,
and deservedly so, both unbeaten, untied.
So it's going to be very, very interested to see how this thing shapes up.
But saying, look, he's throwing the two top receivers.
We know he has Jeremiah Smith.
I mean, a guy from Vanderbilt
winning the Hivesman trophy
would be crazy to think.
That would, huh?
A school mainly known for academics.
Right.
And nobody really thought about Vanderbilt
until this kid, Pavia, got there
because Vanderbilt used to be everybody's homecoming.
But they put everybody on notice last year.
Yeah.
If I'm not mistaken, isn't he trying to get another year?
Yeah, no, Pavia.
I think I saw he was like a part of a lawsuit
because he went to Juko
and he trying to say Juko is not a part of it.
Something to that.
He said, I'm trying to get some more of these old bandy bucks.
Oh, listen, he's staying another year.
He's going to get himself up that draft board now.
It's been going in the next year.
Is that way?
Oh.
He's fine.
Yeah.
Ocho, Oregon, 10th winner of the season,
42-27 victory over U.S.
Let's see, Dan Lanning had a lot to say in this post-game news conference.
Landing fired shots at the SEC saying, we didn't play Chattanooga State today, right?
Like some of the other places, we competed.
It's tough playing nine conference game.
It's tough playing in this league.
I think Proust in the pudding.
We can beat you in a multiple of ways, right?
We can outscore you at times, right?
We can hold you to 18, 16 points type of game.
When in tough environments, any weather, put the ball down.
Let's go play football.
That's the kind of team that we have.
Landing also took issue with how teams win
are sometimes viewed by the committee.
A lot of times we play really good team
and they become unranked all of a sudden.
That's not our fault.
Maybe it is our fault.
The duck currently 10 and 1, 7th, and the CFP rankings
behind three and one lost teams,
three other one lost teams, Georgia, Texas Tech, Ole Miss,
as of last week's ranking.
You like what Coach Lanning had to say, Ocho?
I like it.
I like coaches talking shit like, oh, excuse me, I'm bad.
I like coaches talking like that.
I like him talking, I like them talking jazzy
because it's the reason the teams are playing the way they play now.
When you think of Oregon of the past,
you think of finesse, speed all over the place.
Oregon, right now, the game they're winning,
a win up front, and then everything else takes over from there.
They run in the ball.
They dominate the front.
They throw on the ball.
The quarterback more had a day-to-day.
He was 22 for 30 with two Trees, 257.
They, Witten and had 104 on the ground,
and the TD, they're not the same Oregon or old
where you call them a finesse team.
Oh, they ain't going to hit nobody.
They weak up front.
Man, they got the meat and potatoes up there battling,
battling the trenches,
and the skilled position is taken over from there.
So I like, I like it talking a little trash, though.
I like that.
I mean, USC gave a game for a while
and then, you know, they kind of pulled away.
I mean, it was what, 2814, 2814 at the half,
both scored a touchdown,
then USC scored six.
But look, Oregon's got a good team
I think if they hold served
They're going to be able
They're going to be in the college football playoff
It's hard
That's the number 17 in the country
Where they got Oregon State probably next week
Yeah, we got 11 and 1
It's going to be hard to leave a team
That's in the top 10 out of the college football
Playoff So Joe
It's just going to be hard
I mean hold on
They might lose Oregon State next week
There ain't nobody losing the Oregon State
Don't sleep don't sleep
But Oregon State
Don't sleep on us
Yeah, we slept
We're sleeping
Don't sleep
A civil war
You never know what might happen
You never know
Well they're the north
And we know what happened
There's big war in the south
General Lee surrendered
Appomatic courthouse
So that's where I met on y'all
Look
I think the SEC
Is going to nine conference games also
Because, yeah, I mean, you play in Mercer
and you play in Chattanooga
and you play in all these teams.
Yeah.
But boy, that's why I think the thing is that, you know,
you go unscayed in the SEC.
When you got Alabama and LSU and you got, you know,
you got Oklahoma and Texas.
Yeah.
You got all those teams on your,
you got all those teams, Georgia.
Uh-huh.
But it's going to be hard for you to go unscathed
and play a, and play a conference championship game.
Right.
It's going to be hard for you to be unscathed in these.
conference is moving. Yeah. It just is. It just is. And I know, you know, people like, well,
hey, this is the X, Y, and Z, but it's going to get harder and harder for you to go unscathed.
Well, listen, that's a good thing. That's a good thing. Obviously, because for us, for us,
for us, for us fans of the collegiate game, that's a good thing for us. Now, maybe for the
committee, it might be a little difficult. It might be a little difficult than them. Maybe they
will take into account that, listen, it's going to be difficult for us, for teams to go undefeated.
So maybe you have to have some of the little curve
when it comes to your judging
who you're letting the college football playoffs
because it's so difficult.
Yeah, I think, I think when you look at,
I mean, you got Penn State really down this year,
you got Illinois, you got Northwestern,
you got some of these teams like,
Michigan State, eh, it's, right, right.
So it's going to be interesting, you know,
I don't envy being in, you know, their position,
because you're going to have to make some tough decisions.
Yeah.
It's going to have to make some very, very tough decisions.
And if you're not careful here, Ocho, it's going to be the SEC versus the Big Ten.
That's who's going to make the college football playoff.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Ocho, the effort to solidify his college football playoff, K, the number nine ranked,
Notre Dame Fighting Irish, left little doubt today with a record seven,
70 to seven route of Syracuse.
The Irish scored 21 points before taking the first.
damn, offensive snap.
That's not fair, man.
And I won 19 straight regular season games
when facing elimination from the college football
playoff discussion, many in blowout fashion.
If there's a lingering, lingering question
about why the committee ranked Notre Dame
as the second highs of the two lost teams this week,
theirs were answered in South Bear.
Jeremiah Love boasted his Hizman trophy candidacy
with 108 rushing yards and three touchdowns.
Oh, Joe.
Oh, me, carries.
Hey.
So what is Syracuse doing, man?
Nothing.
Don't look like they were doing nothing.
Hey, after the game, after the game,
they need to be out there doing tackling drills.
Well, you remember early in the year?
Ocho, they had them running wind sprints when they lost the game.
Oh, that's right.
Oh, that coach did have, see, nah, right now,
after the game is over, they shouldn't even be able to shower.
Everybody outside and we do.
Well, they ain't musky.
Huh?
They got beat 70 to seven.
You ain't do nothing.
You ain't mussy.
You know what it's out.
The correct way is musty, we say musty.
Man, get your musty ass out of here.
Listen, they played in South Bend, right?
Yes.
Listen, I'm not, well, I can't remember the head coach's name for Syracuse,
but I would have had the plane, we're not going nowhere.
Wait to the stadium clear out.
Everybody come back out here, put your pads on, we're doing tackling drills.
We're not even getting on the plane.
We're not even going home.
We don't even deserve to get on the flight.
They need to do some offensive drills too because they only pass for 95 yards.
And they only had 112 yards, they only had 112 yards rushing.
They have 112 yards rushing on 50 carries.
Oh, hold on.
Notre Dame had, chat, Notre Dame had 329 yards rushing, six touchdowns on 24 carries.
Hold on.
Let me tell you what's even worse, though.
Think about this.
Think about if Syracuse could tackle, right?
Think of Syracuse did have defense.
who was able to stop the run.
Please tell the chat how many yards
car had thrown today.
49.
They had 67 total yards.
There were 9 of 15
for 67 yards on a touchdown.
See?
If you was able to stop the run,
if you was able to stop the run.
Now you're allowing people to run.
If you're able to run on a team,
if you're able to impose your will
and move a man off a spot
against his will,
and freedom this is the kind of that you're going to have and once you can do that it's a wrap
it's a rap there's no need to throw the ball there's no need they had less than four because here's
the problem that you run into is that every time they touch the ball they go and hit the head on the
goal post yeah join love because think about it you had 24 rush attempts and basically a fourth
of those ended on a touchdown touchdown I'm I'm curious I mean at some point
pride has to set in.
You got the one to hit somebody.
35 nothing in the first quarter.
49 nothing at the half.
56 nothing at the end of three.
Is that disrespectful of a man,
Mr. Franklin, running the score up like that?
He didn't run the score.
I emptied my bitch.
Hell, I called a couple of kids out of the stands here.
Come here.
You don't play football, son?
No, sir.
He'll get the game.
Maybe they can tackle you.
They can't tackle these kids
that actually played before.
So, hey, what did you say?
He pulled a couple of kids out to stand?
Hey, got a couple of kids out of the stand.
Hey, you'll play football before, son?
No, sir.
Here, get in here.
We're going to hand you the ball off.
Hey.
I mean, that's embarrassing.
That's funny.
That's funny.
I mean, 24 rushes, bro.
Oh, that's funny.
That's damn near 15 yards of carry.
Yeah, them boy laid down out there, man.
Hold on.
They lay down early.
They lay down early.
35 zero in the first quarter.
That means you ain't, you ain't one of those smoke.
You ain't trying to play no football.
Seventy?
Y'all going through, they're going through the motions, man.
Come on, now.
At least play for the S on your helmet.
If you ain't going to play for the S on your helmet,
play for your head coach.
If you ain't going to play for your head coach,
play for your teammates.
If you ain't going to play for your teammates,
at least play for the name on the back of the jersey.
Could people go see that show.
With all the L.Feld, that's what you call them going to do.
I already know my homebook going to kill me when I go back home.
Man, they'd be the brakes off.
Y'all shot.
What the hell were y'all was doing?
Nothing.
Anybody that played with Syracuse?
and you got a girlfriend, she should dump you.
She got to leave you.
She got to leave you.
I ain't taking no calls.
She ain't taking no calls tonight.
A, block, block everybody.
Hey, how, how you?
She might be in the deal.
She might be in a, uh, uh, uh, a, uh, a, uh, love, uh,
listen, listen, if, if you have her, if you're in a relationship, ladies and you're dating
someone on the Syracuse football team, I suggest you break up with them.
Because that's, that's uncalled for.
There should be no reward.
There should be no reward for being in a relationship
after that bullshit they pulled a day.
Yeah, that's bad.
Oh, Joe, you ever scored 70 points on somebody?
Yeah, and Madden.
The ultimate is the actual football.
Oh, real life?
Oh, no, not real life.
Hell, no, hell, no.
You know, any game I've played in,
it always been a game of what I like to call quality
on both sides of the ball.
No, it was thought to be a quality.
No, we beat more house one year for home,
coming 70 to 13 we beat Clark like 60 to 20 oh we usually put points on people hotel we put yeah
i mean that's not fair um y'all wasn't playing nobody we played them i mean we made it look like
nobody okay i see i see what you say i see what you said they did somebody before we got old in their
ass right i got you i got you see that what you got to see if you get to a fight with somebody
you don't beat them and turn them loose right you beat them to their break loose right you don't see animals
fight yeah and when what again he break loose and go he never got to worry about the money
again okay i see what you mean i see what you mean i see what you mean we made more house break loose
they took up off the schedule for a couple of years at least until i left now they might
play they might have came back and spun the block after i would left but they won't no parts
of number right yeah mm-mm-mm-mm because we cut everybody ass clark fort valley all bony state
it didn't matter didn't matter mo brown they got it too yeah you know you notice you mean called
fam huh but listen ocho now i don't know i don't know
or what fan would have done before she's number two got there or after but they would
sell now dare this you don't think so no sir re okay I'm getting just what I know
okay I'm getting out the bus getting a hundred now your best bet is to try to keep me from
getting 150 200 in a couple of tubs I don't know um it's a different ball game down there but
them boy down in Tallahassee especially back in them days what year you was at savannah state
86 to 89 oh head oh boy that boy wasn't playing back then boy
them boy wasn't playing back then
them boys weren't playing back then boy
you know I caught a touchdown in 21 straight games
huh
yeah
you ain't hear what I just said now huh
think about the level of competition
are obviously HBCU
great talent yeah elite talent
sometimes not getting opportunities they want to do
want to have to be at PWIs right
but fam you
in the 80s you ain't want none of that
I'm telling you now
Ocho you do realize I was one of them guys
they were supposed to be at a PWI, right?
Yeah, I understand that.
And it was a whole lot of them, too.
Yes, but they couldn't see me.
Ocho, if I did what I did in the NFL,
can you imagine me what I was doing at the HBCU?
Yeah.
So just think about, say, damn, damn,
I went to the hole from an HBCU.
I could just imagine he was, yes.
Yeah, all right, all right.
Ocho, I average 20 yards of catch for a career.
a career can ask you something yes just i want you to remember this name jacquay nunley okay he average
20 20 y'all to catch it for his career too eh and uh fam you yeah well well he's a he's a he's a he's a
edison red rated legend yeah come on now hey well guess what yeah he'd have had 200 i'd have 300
nah um but i dee them boys back them that defense back then no um that deep that defense back then um
That defense, that, that rattler defense in the 80s, boy, especially 86 to 89.
As a matter of fact, 86 to 92.
Man, you want to, you wouldn't heard, it would have been no,
you wouldn't heard nothing.
All you heard it.
Little tail movie just a little bit.
Nah, no, no.
Listen.
Man out of cook them.
Nah.
No, I'm telling you, man.
I'm telling you, man.
You do realize Georgia Southern, we play Georgia Southern.
Georgia Southern, they ended up winning
the 1-8 National Championship the year we played them.
I set a stadium record on them, 9 for 202.
Cook them.
Elon, the year before, they won the NIA National Championship,
Sam for 221.
Oh, the bigger of the school, Elon, not Elon,
Wofford, cooked them,
lay them for 142 and 2.
If you were really, really good,
it comes to, hey, you know,
you know, they're going to be some scofford.
here because they got some good people.
That's all I need to hear.
Just they just say scouts.
They could have been Boy Scouts.
Girl Scouts selling damn cookies on the sideline.
I was cutting ass.
Yeah.
Listen, it sound good.
It sound good.
But them boys die here in Florida.
Oh,
hey, listen.
Oh, listen.
Let me finish now.
Them boys coming out of Dade in Broward County that were down there in
Tallahassee that made up that Florida A&M
Rattle football team.
Unk, boy, you wouldn't have got nothing.
You hear me?
And that's what, hey, listen, that's what all due
respect to what you did it gives them teams you played when you played you know at savannah state
man and the boy die he ain't playing that man ain't ain't ain't you ain't getting a than you i'm just
telling you i'm telling you i'm telling you what i heard i'm telling you what i know i'm a double-edged
sword i was cutting ass left and right yeah yeah you know what i'm saying you know that some sort
they're just sharp on one side i'm double edge i'm cutting ass on the left side i'm cutting ass on the right
side i see it's different you notice you know that you notice you notice all the schools you just named
had to do none with Florida ain't had nothing to do none with Florida it's a different
hey uncle's a different type of breed down here man you hit me oh we played who he played we
played central Florida one year who central Florida who is that central Florida I don't know
nothing about that school there what stop it I know I don't know not you to my UCF huh
yes yeah they they must have just started that year done yeah they must have just
started that year I hooked them go look at it
Culked them.
They had a guy to end up, if I'm not mistaken,
got drafted by the Cowboys in the third round.
Who?
They came down to, they came down.
I think his name was Ford.
Bernard Ford.
Hey, who won the game?
Oh, they won.
They beat us, but I beat them.
Okay.
You know what I'm saying?
They were talking about, man, who was that number two?
You use that to use that they cut?
Oh, for sure.
Okay.
Anywhere, look, we went to, uh, my sophomore year,
I made a black college All-American.
I was the only sophomore to make the team.
Coach
Grambler's head coach
Coach Eddie Robinson
Eddie Robb.
Coach W.C. Gordon
I mean, all the coaches
Mo Forte, they had
Willie Jeffers, and they were talking
about all these guys.
Howard Ballard was at the game,
Vince Carter, Howard Reed,
all these guys.
My coach said, I got the baddest in here.
All them guys y'all talking about,
my guy going to play on Sundays
and he's a sophomore
he's the baddest end here
he ain't lie
he was talking about you
he had the baddest end there
a true sophomore
all right
all right
you
yeah
you better tell about your dad
yeah
sound good
hey hey speaking of
simply on the topic
of 8BCUs
I just want to congratulate
Bethune cooking
wildcats
on winning a Florida
classic today
salute to y'all boys
all the wildcats out there
rattles
we're gonna be all right
we're gonna be all right
We're going to be back next year.
We got one more game.
We got Mississippi Valley State next weekend.
We need to finish the season all strong with the win.
I'm not sure what's going to happen with the coaching vacancy.
But whatever coach comes in the play, we're going to have success next year.
But I guarantee you one thing.
I guarantee we won the halftime show, Rattlers.
I guarantee we won the halftime show.
And if we didn't win the halthons show, I guarantee you we won the fifth quarter.
Yeah.
Ocho.
Yeah.
Y'all bad with it.
Hey, I'm bad to be playing.
I better be playing.
Whoa, whoa, whoa, don't do that.
Hey, hey, hey, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh,
eh, eh, eh, ah, ah, ah, oh, and, oh, man.
Hey, boy.
Bum, boom, boom, boom.
Hey, that's the, that's the best thing about ACCU football games.
When that band crank up,
or when the band crank up, or they playing in the, in the middle, oh, man.
Cause, you know, Ocho, they be talking about,
you're not supposed to be playing when the opposing team got the ball?
Forget all that.
outside the window out the window out the window but hey we're gonna be playing because i'm gonna give
him something to play for yeah gonna be playing mm-hmm what's the what i mean you got beat
a bunch in Cincinnati we got beat by uh uh oh hey whoa whoa that wasn't necessary you take take a
shot at no no no no no no no no no no the big the most i got like 37 i lost 37 nothing
nothing to the eagles no ain't nobody drop no 40 50 oh hell not i mean 37 nothing to
50. I mean, same thing. You ain't too far off.
Oh, Ocho, we dropped 70. No, I said, boy, you start getting, you start getting the 50s.
Yeah, that's bad.
Oh, Cho, you don't know how many touchdowns?
Hold on. We, we had a, we had a game. We played, um, the Cleveland Browns. We didn't lose. I'm
saying. It got in the 50s. I think the score, it was 57, 45 or something like that.
Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Were you there there? Yeah. Uh, oh, I think with that fifth, but they was going back and
Before there's like four.
Hey, we were scoring hell of touchdown.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, I remember that.
So now you got that in my head now.
Oh, Joe, if you had the guess right now just looking at
through the first 11 weeks, 10, 11 weeks of 12 weeks of college football season,
who do you see on the landscape that could actually beat Ohio State?
shit actually beat them convincingly nobody going to beat them convincingly a team that can give
him a hard time maybe Georgia Indiana Georgia Indiana Georgia Indiana Georgia Georgia
Indiana as great I mean I would say Texas if they were a little bit more
consistent offensively but they've been consistent offensively against somewhat
inferior opponents he's played good
but I need to see consistent
quarterback play,
great decision making to say
you know what, you can go in there and beat Ohio
State. Great defense, but you still got to put up points.
Yeah, when the first game, Ohio State is going to be at home.
So the likelihood of somebody going in there
beating them there, probably not likely.
You're going to probably have to get them on a neutral field,
Ocho.
I don't think so.
But Indiana good, that defense.
Yeah, I agree.
That defense.
We're going to find a lot because we know Michigan
can play them tough.
No matter what,
no matter what Michigan might look,
what you might think may or may not think of Michigan.
Michigan play them tough.
Michigan is physical.
They're a physical team.
They're going to run the football and they're going to try to shut your water off
and stop you from running the football.
So it's going to be a very interesting matchup.
And you know,
Michigan has a true freshman at quarterback.
How much pressure can they put on him
and to coax him into a few mistakes?
Because if I found out mistaken,
I think this game is in Michigan, Ocho.
Yeah.
It is?
Yeah.
I think this game is at the big house.
You know, normally we grow up the big house.
You ain't want to go to the big house.
Nah.
I mean, not that big house.
No, show, don't.
So it's, it's going to be, it's going to be, they got, look, we got some good teams.
We got Georgia.
You got, A&M doesn't have a loss.
Excuse me, A&M has no losses.
Indiana has no loss.
You got a few teams out there that have one loss.
So it's going to be.
interesting to see.
They've got those two outstanding receivers.
They can run the ball.
The quarterback is really, really good.
You got your work cut out.
You're going to have to play.
Ohio State is going to have to get outside of themselves.
They're going to have to turn the ball over.
They've got to be sloppy.
You're going to have to make them and, you know,
you'll have to create some turnovers.
You're going to have to create some big play for yourself
because I just don't know if you can just methodically just go down to the field
methodically, 10 play, 11, play, 12 play drive to get there.
you're going to have to get a couple of splash plays and flip field position.
But it's going to be, it's going to be very, very interesting to see how this thing shapes out.
Who makes the college football playoffs?
What brackets are they in?
How soon?
If Georgia going to be on the same side as Ohio State?
You know, something alone, Texas A&M, where are the seating?
So that's going to be very, very interesting to see how this thing shakes out.
Oh, yeah.
But I'm anxious.
I'm ready now.
Uh.
Hey, is it clear?
No.
Huh?
Uh-huh.
Is it clear?
I can't hear what you said.
Is it clear?
What clear?
Oh, you can see it, huh?
Yeah, a little bit.
Damn.
I think the camera trying to focus by itself.
Hey, if I, hey, I can Jordan, hey, and Jordan, if I, if I put my camera on auto, would it, would it focus on it?
He said, if he put his camera on auto, would it focus?
No.
No.
No.
Damn.
Oh, Cho, you see, can you see what they got up?
Talk about the best 50.
Someone dropped the top 50 running backs ever.
In college?
In college, who number one?
They got Jonathan Taylor.
Hell no.
At number one, who made that a look here?
Oh, okay, since 2000.
Okay, since 2000.
No, Reggie is number one since 2000.
Reggie Bush is number one since 2000.
I'm not putting Jonathan Taylor over Reggie or Adrian Peterson.
Well, who's number three?
They got, can you see it?
As you sent it to you.
Oh, hold on, hold on.
Let me look at that thing.
I got the chat up on my phone.
Okay, here we go.
Ooh, that's a good list.
Hey, Darren McFadden was that boy, boy.
Yeah.
Oh, my goodness.
It's since 2000, Ocho.
Okay, okay.
I was like, all time.
I was like, oh, hell no.
Hey, oh, Monty Ball.
Oh, just bring back memories, boy.
Oh, Wisconsin had some running backs now.
They didn't.
Yeah.
I mean, Jonathan Taylor has been the best one in the NFL from there.
Melvin Gordon had a,
had a nice career, but when you go look at Ron Dane and some of those other guys that came
into the league, they didn't have nearly the career like a Melvin Gore and like a Jonathan
Taylor. So clearly Jonathan Taylor has had the best NFL career. Melvin Gore was a solid ball
player as well. Hey, speaking of, didn't Michael Bennett go to Wisconsin too? That went to Minnesota,
right? Or am I tripping? I think so. He might have did. He was real fast, if I'm not mistaken.
I might, I might have the wrong school. A, Michael James.
At Oregon, it was must-see TV, Mark.
Must-see TV.
Christian McCaffrey,
Reese Hall,
Dalvin Cook that.
Y'all liked that list, chat.
Hell yeah, Davin.
No, I'm saying, I'm asking me they like it.
No, no, no, ain't nobody,
Reggie Bush was the most electrified running back since 2000.
And it ain't even close.
No, nobody was close to Reggie.
Mm-mm.
Either, Ocho,
other running back,
was a returner.
Yeah.
Reggie was the most electrified.
Hey,
hey,
who was 25?
I don't even know
who that is.
Cadeem Kerry
went to Arizona.
He had an okay career.
Nothing in the NFL.
He was good a college player.
Right.
Sproes.
Sproes was a utility knife.
I mean,
he ran to,
at the Chargers,
New Orleans,
Philly.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I like that list.
I mean,
seeing some of these names,
I haven't seen
some of these names
in a long time.
bring back good memories watching, watching college football.
I guess they didn't like Zeke.
They ain't put Zeke up there.
At Ohio, yeah, he had a good career at Ohio State.
Oh, man.
Man, the first year to college, the football playoff,
I mean, that number that he had over 200 yards and three games.
Oregon, Alabama, and I think it was,
whether Penn State or who wasn't in the Big Ten championship game,
he went over 200.
And then he goes 220 against Bama.
Then he goes like 240, 250 against Oregon.
Let me see.
Reggie.
Reggie was nice.
They got damn.
Okay.
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