Club Shay Shay - Nightcap - Hour 1: LeBron addresses Stephen A. Smith on Pat McAfee; Damian Lillard out with a blood clot; Lakers challenging games

Episode Date: March 30, 2025

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson recap Best of Hoops Moments of the week including LeBron finally addressing the confrontation with Stephen A on Pat McAfee, The Lakers continue to lose, & Damian Lillard is out for season with a blood clot & much more!04:20 - Pacers v Lakers22:00 - LeBron James on Pat McAfee33:27 - LeBron James on Pat McAfee continued48:00 - Damian Lillard out indefinitely with blood clot49:50 - Lakers vs. Magic(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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And now I get back to my boring old day job. Head over to your nearest Boost Mobile store and make the most out of your tax refund. -♪ -♪ Go James, go James, go James. Uh, he, he... For the For the first time, he entered a game from the fourth quarter where he hadn't scored a field goal. He has three points. If I'm

not mistaken, I think he only had two points at the half. And he has a streak 18 years. He's scored at least 10 points in every game for the last 18 years. It's the longest consecutive streak of double digit games in NBA history. And he kept the streak alive because he was sensational. I think he scored 12 points in the fourth quarter, but none bigger than the tip in at the buzzer to give them the win. The Lakers beat the Pacers 120 to 119. Lakers had a 17 point lead.

They squandered that again. Oh Joe, what quarter? What quarter? Third, third third every time? They gave up 37 points in the third quarter. Remember the other night they gave up 34 points in the third quarter and It looked like they they scored all 60 little over 60 points in the in the second half and That'll get you beat. Yeah, Lakers are gonna have to find out until it's important to them to take care of the basketball,

to play better defense. They're gonna find themselves in these kinds of games because they allow teams to hang around because they turn the ball over. When they can stretch and lead to 20, 22, 23, they turn the ball over in a couple quick threes and now all of a sudden a 17-point game is down under 10 But when it mattered the most and that's what good players. That's what great players do they can play bad

No matter the sport Oh Joe that can play bad for a particular period of time But when they absolutely have to have it they can dig down now a lot of times you and I both played the game of football Sometimes with things are not going our way A lot of times you and I both played the game of football sometimes with things are not going our way Real loud decrement I gained creep creep into our minds in an effect that overall play. Yes, sir I thought he rebounds the ball extremely well. He had 13 rebounds. He led the makers and rebounds He did a great job of facilitating considering Luka is the primary ball handler now right a little bit of six with seven But when he needed it, he dug down in the fourth quarter. He got it going

Yeah, they have primarily had the ball in his hand while Luca was on the bench getting his rest to start the fourth He got his double digits and then he turned it back over to Luca and Luca got hot again down the stretch I think Luca ended up with 34 points AR Oscar Reeves had 24 but it was LeBron at the end of the ball game Yeah, they got the tip in at the buzzer because this would have been heartbreaking This would have been a gut-wrenching loss. They lost this game. They would have let this on they they on the old three They were on the old three skid then the old three skid for one

Like you said earlier they can play in stretches in the game and get a lead but because the lack of defense and always being effing being get a lead but because of the lack of defense and always being effing being transition being lazy turning the ball over they allow teams to come back in team that they should be dominating obviously the game of basketball is about against is a game of runs but still you're playing the Pacers I'm not saying the Pacers are horribly sorry but when it comes to the Lakers if you're serious about not only making the playoffs or keeping the seed that you're in this is a game that's you're supposed to go in and dominate quarterback water, but yet again in the third quarter

After after having a lead they had they almost squandered that and the lab they did because the pace is taking the lead Oh joke, let me know the places took the lead and then what I don't want it I don't want to butcher his last name Roy Roy Roy Roy Hachimura brother brother Hachimura Hakatana hit the two-three towards the end of the game and LeBron had to come through in a magical moment in the game they should have lost honestly yeah honestly but he all the he owned him that one LeBron he's in the locker that one. LeBron owned him that one. He's in the locker room saying, hey, knowing LeBron, he's probably in the locker room guiding like,

hey, that was a big win, but I owe y'all. I owe you. For that first half? For the game, because I think, what was he, he ended up 4-12? Yeah. So he was 3-11 before that tip in, so he ended up going 4-12, and he knows,

all of seven from the three, he knows he didn't, his overall game, but the thing is, about a great player, you knows all of seven from the three. He knows he didn't his overall game. But the thing is about a great player and you find other ways to impact the game. Look at his defensive rebound. Look, I mean, look at his rebound and look at his assist. His assist. Let him in the system, let him in rebounds. But that's what great players do.

They find ways to impact the game, even though he wasn't scoring a lot of times a score when he's not scoring, he moats, he pouts, and all of a sudden it impacts other areas of the game. Can you impact the game when you're not doing what you normally do to impact the game? Find other ways to influence the game. Rebound the basketball. Can I facilitate? Can I play defense? Can I guard your charge?

Things of that nature. And I was very happy to see LeBron and pull it out, had a lot going on today. Luca, in the month of March, 31.4 points a game. Eight and a half rebounds, 8.6 assists, 43 points, so basically 44% from the three point line on 11 attempts per game. He's on pace to be the youngest Laker

to average 30 points in a single month since Kobe in 2003. Nah, hey, I like the Laker chance. I love all the mantras, all the quotes of Lakers in five, but I honestly think they need one more piece. As great as Hakatana, as great as Hakatana, Ruri is playing, they need something else. Another score, LeBron has an off-knife, then Luca gives you what he does tonight.

He was kind of off and on, but he still ended up with 34. But I think if they just had one more person, they'd give him just a little bit more. I know Reed is good I know we can work your score as well. They just need one more one more piece of that puzzle and And what they were hoping for what they were hoping for that Alex Lynn could give them something now I don't know what they see from Alex Lynn since he's been in the league and you're like buddy, man It's not about like or dislike, Ochoa.

I mean, I think the Chattas would agree. They watched him at many different stops. I think he's been in Washington. I think he's been with the Suns. He's been different places. He's what he is. Yeah. He's what he is.

Right. I don't care. You take a grizzly bear out of the forest, whether he in Alaska or he's in Canada or it does not matter. You take him out of that and you put him in a different environment. He's still a grizzly bear. Okay. Yeah.

His instincts does not go away. Right. Well, another word, if he's sorry over here, what do you expect him to be over there? Teach me that. I mean, it's not like he was good at one point in time, Mocho. And you say, you know what? Hopefully he can summon that up again. But he has not been good at any stop. He's tall.

Now, a coach is calling his name. It is what it is. And I'm just being factual. There's not anybody else out there that could help him on Joe And the problem is is that when when Jackson Hayes goes to the bitch, they're a small team Oh, very so have another big LeBron gotta go to the fire LeBron has to go to the fire or you bring in Dorian Phoenix Smith and he has to play the flat five

Right there are very very small team and that's the problem that you have because you're really not playing Jackson Hayes more than 25 minutes a night. Right. And he's a guy, and the thing that I love about me, you love and you hate, is that you don't run plays for Jackson Hayes. He's a lob guy. He gets it off the rim. He gives you a second chance, opportunities. But he's not a guy that you can run to the bar and say, hey, he going to put, hey,

put his back to the basket, throw it to a hand, and he's gonna do something with it. That's not what he is, that's not who he is. Right. Now, I got a question now. Now, listen, you know, my knowledge of the game of basketball is a little limited. I'm getting better at it, though. Now, listen, if they gotta go small, if they gotta go small, shouldn't the Lakers at times, depending on who it is, be at an advantage is that at times depending on who it is be at an advantage when it comes to you know playing small and having to transition up and down the court as opposed to you know. Yeah for the other team though small but what happens when they got Jokic out there what are you moving in and that's the problem okay let's just say you played Memphis. Right. Memphis got Zach Eady who's seven, seven three. Yeah.

He's just clogging up space. Huh? He's just clogging up space. He's not advantageous on offense at all. Or am I wrong? He don't give you extra possession because of rebounding. Okay.

And without rebounding, there are no rings without rebounding. Okay. And that rebounding, there are no rings without rebounding. Okay. And that's the problem that the Lakers gonna have. Even when LeBron has enough, you still have AR and Luca that can carry the load. If Luca is struggling, LeBron and AR can carry the load.

If AR is struggling, Luca and LeBron can still carry the load. So who will, look, you got three guys that can score. AR is giving you like 20 a night, LeBron has given you 25, Luca's giving you a 30. Right. Okay, that's fine.

One of those guys struggling with other guys can take over. Need a little bit better production consistently from the bitch. You got some good minutes tonight, but JJ is just gonna have to trust Dalton Connect. I think the thing is that he loses his way sometime on the defensive end.

And being around JJ, the little bit I had working with him at ESPN, he doesn't like that. He likes students of the game. He likes smart guys. Smart guys you can win with, even if they're not the most talented. Supremely talented guys, that doesn't have basketball IQ get your ass beat Well that frustrates JJ because JJ wasn't the most talented although he was a great player in college

Yeah, really good player in the NBA. He was very smart Yeah, he knew where we're supposed to be when he was supposed to be there Boom, so he did he listen he did all the small things. Right. Very, yes, yes. Very disciplined. And when you're not, which is like athletic, you're not extremely athletic. You're not six, eight, six, nine.

Why do everything right? Or you don't have handles like a Kyrie. You're not quick. So what other way can I find a way to get on the court, stay on the court, and not cost my team? And if you look at it, Ocho, I think there's ten games left and you look at three through eight, there's only four games difference. There's only four games difference. You're basically, you're three, four games back. Denver Nuggets have the same well-loss record as the Lakers and they're in the

three seed. Lakers are they're in the three seed, Lakers are four, Memphis is five, all of them have 28 losses. And then you got the Clippers, Golden State with 31 losses, which are three games back and you got Minnesota at 32 losses at a game back of them. So four games separate three through eight and there's 10 games to go. Ten games to roll. Excuse me, ten games to go. So the rubber got to beat the roll. Something got to give. Yeah. What's the highest seed or what do you think is preferable for you as a Laker fan for them? What would be easier for them, best case scenario, to be able to get out of the first round,

or at least have a chance to get into the second round? Have home court advantage. So you need to be one through four to have home court advantage. Okay. They're not going to get the one seed because OKC has run away with that. Right. So the one seed has already entered in stone. Now could they get the two seed?

Yeah, that's a possibility. They got the rockets on the schedule. They need to close out this road game strong and then go home and close out that home stand strong. I can see them three or four. Three or four. So that means if everything remains the same, that means they get Memphis in the first round. Ooh, what you like about that matchup? I love that. I say, just stay away from OKC. We need to get some rhythm going before we see OKC.

We need some pressure to mount. Ain't no pressure in the first round. They need pressure. So you're saying Memphis ain't no pressure? No, not for the Lakers. I like that matchup against Memphis. But you know who Memphis got over there? Yeah, Jar. Yeah. Yeah. I give you Jar, I give you Luka. Who you taking? Okay. I give you Jar, I give you LeBron. Who you taking?

Okay. Okay. Now they got Jaren Jackson, who's a DPO Y play or candidate Who made the all-star game Bane has played well in the absence jaws nursing a hamstring or something But he's been up and down that when he's been in yeah. Oh He's John. I mean the second pick in the job. He's been an all-star so you know what he can do I mean nobody's surprised I mean just to actually go to a game and watch him and to watch the way he elevating the way he can contort his Body he's special. Yeah, he's a guy that you know, I pay my good money to go see Because that's what he is. I look I basically I only if I'm paying my money to come see you

Thank you. Hey my money comes. Yeah. Oh damn. I'm gonna point you average. Hey not interested That's do with me Jaws interested. Yeah, because he can finish above the rim got a nice little float game mid-range shot He's gotten better to shoot in the set three. Mm-hmm, but He's fun. He's fun to watch. I like that matchup. Do I think they can beat anybody? Yes in seven games Absolutely, because Luca and LeBron can both take over game and give you a 40 I like that matchup. Do I think they can beat anybody? Yes. If seven games, absolutely Because Luca and LeBron can both take over game and give you 40. Mm-hmm So those two guys But the thing is Ocho in the playoffs your three best guys need to be really good

Tour the three need to be great right damn near every single night Now if I'm getting 80 points, 60, if I'm getting 65 to 80 points from my big three, I'm gonna need the other six guys, because you're not gonna go that deep. Playoff start, you might go nine. As you go further, you reduce that. But I'm gonna need those other nine guys,

and those three guys give me eight, I'm gonna need those other guys to give me 35. And they're gonna have to get a little bit more production from the bench. Gabe Benson is shooting the ball a little better. Penny Smith is doing a little better, but they gotta make a decision. What are we gonna do at Dog Connect?

Because he can shoot the three, but he gets lost. He gets lost on defense. He gives up easy buckets. And I don't know what's the, something's being lost to translation. Oh Joe. He's a liability Well, all of them look you can't play no defense Don't also read this is hard a play defense LeBron can't sit in the chair no more LeBron is mainly a help side defender But does use his body really well guys try to go round him He'll body him up because that's a that's a big man to try to move.

And so he slows him down like that. But LeBron kept sitting in the chair, and no one expects him to, Ojo. He's 40. What guy you know played defense at 40? Kobe didn't, Jordan did, I'm talking about historically great players. Even Pippen that didn't play until he was 40, he couldn't slide those feet like he could when he was in his prime. We understand that because you and I talked about it

the other night, the lateral quickness is what you lose as we start to age. Oh yeah. So with that being said, Ocho, I like the Lakers. I believe they can beat anybody in the Western Conference. Yeah, it'll be a struggle. But OKC. Oh, do you see that fire

We still we still we still wanna define So you want to hold up going to the next topic Okay um Uh, topic? Ash? Okay. Um, oh Joe. Yo. I don't know if it was this morning or with Tate yesterday. I'm thinking of this morning. What happened? LeBron went on the Pat McAfee show.

Yeah, yeah, I saw that. He had a lot to say today. Yeah, he, that was, that was out of character to him. I've never seen him in that setting before and actually just talking freely like that. Yeah. So we're going to get to that in just a second while we wait for TJ to connect. But the Lakers, I'm looking at the Clippers. I think the thing is, Ocho, you're trying to stay out of seven through 10 because you don't want to play any more games than you have to.

You won't rest and and it won't start until the 7 8 9 10 is determined who to play and who's it gonna be 7 who's gonna be 8 To that determined so you need rest LeBron James is 40. He's been playing played what 38 39 minutes tonight So he's gonna need rest look any bumps and bruises You want to try to get those guys as healthy as you possibly can now the best best thing about the playoffs, you don't play every other, you don't play it back to back. I mean the first game you play and then you might have a couple of days off and then you get into the routine and you play it every other day. Okay, you can live with that, but you try to get LeBron, LeBron is going to need as much rest as he

possibly can because he is 40. He's what he is. And so once they determine who they're gonna, once they are, if they can secure one of these top six seeds, you avoid the play-in, you get an opportunity to get a couple of days of rest, and then hey, for tomorrow it's fall to game. Oh Joe, now LeBron James went on the Pat McAfee Show today, nearly three weeks after confronting Stephen A out of basketball game. LeBron broke his silence on the Pat McAfee show today, nearly three weeks after confronting Stephen A at a basketball game. LeBron broke his silence on the incidents referring to the fallout

as a Taylor Swift tour run for Stephen A. The beef started over comments Stephen A made regarding Bronnie. I initially wasn't going to say anything, I wasn't going to talk about it. We didn't talk about it. Y'all didn't hear anything from me for about the incident for three weeks ago, but now LeBron has went on P-MAT and we have to talk about it. Y'all didn't hear anything from me for about the incident about three weeks ago, but now LeBron has went on P-MAT and we have to talk about it now. LeBron said he hasn't been too happy with how Stephen A has reacted to the situation. He's on a Taylor Run Swift tour right now.

It started off with, I didn't want to address it, but since the video came out, I feel, this is LeBron talking, I need to address it. He completely missed the whole point. The whole point never would allow people to talk, not allow people to talk about the sport and criticize players about what they do. This is your job to criticize or to position where there's a guy's not performing, you know, that's all a part of the game, but when you take it and

you get personal with it, it's not my job to not only protect my damn household, but protect the players. He's going to be smiling ear to ear when it comes out talking about it because I know he's going to be happy as hell. My name is Brendan Patrick Hughes, host of Divine Intervention. This is a story about radical nuns in combat boots and wild haired priests trading blows with J. Edgar Hoover in a hell-bent effort to sabotage a war. J. Edgar Hoover was furious somebody violated the FBI and he wanted to bring the Catholic love to its knees. The FBI went around to all their neighbors and said to them, do you think these people are good Americans? It's got heists, tragedy, a trial of the century, and the god-damnedest love story you've ever heard.

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Presented by Capital One, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports. Hey, it's Alec Baldwin. This season on my podcast, Here's the Thing, I speak with California Governor Gavin Newsom. I watch Fox. I pay attention to Newsmax, One American News. I don't turn my back to the critics, but there is a sort of California derangement syndrome out there that is just sort of ridiculous. This notion that this is the only state that has challenges, it's just comedic, but it's damaging.

We record-breaking tourism last year. We have a surplus again. We have a state with population growing again. You wouldn't know that. That's not prevalent. It's not part of the discussion. It's been engulfed by the fires. It's been engulfed by the fires. It's a failed state.

California, but for me, it's a pride for me. Again, as a guy who lives here, who cares about the state, is to make a case anew for it, and I'm a little clintony about it. There's nothing wrong with it. It can't be fixed by what's right with it. Listen to the new season of Here's the Thing on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Me, I wish Steven Avery just left it alone. Once he addressed it, once it happened. The first time. Address it.

This is what happened. He came over to me, said what he said. I want to address it now and I'm going to be done with it. Right. Because as my grandma used to say, boy, stirring up old-ish, it still smells. So every time Stephen A. talks about it, it stirs it up again. Yeah.

And look, I see both sides of the equation. But Stephen A. just need to let it go. He needs to let it go. And now you're like, well, if he'd hit it, I don't think LeBron was coming to hit you. LeBron was coming to tell you, bro, just stop talking about my son. He said, because you said, oh, as a father,

now you're making it personal. You're making it personal because now you're making it seem, and this is how LeBron, I think, took it. You're making it seem that I'm not a good father, that I'm not putting myself in putting my son in the position Right to be successful. And so you like you're pushing this and so LeBron took it a certain way And am I surprised LeBron? Responded the way he did so publicly because LeBron is a very private person

Yes, sir He might have an issue with someone and you will never know it. You'll never know it, yeah. You will never know it. So, and so for him to do that at a game, and it wasn't after the game, it wasn't before the game, it was the third quarter during the timeout, lets you know how upset he was at Stephen A and what Stephen A had been saying. But at this point in time, I understand LeBron, they asked LeBron about this, but if I'm Steven A, hey guys, I've already addressed that. He said what he said. I understood his point.

I said what I said. Now it's time to move on. I'm look, it's not going to stop me from talking about LeBron James, the basketball player on the court. But the incident, I feel that we've talked about it at Nausium. I feel we've talked about it enough and now it's time to move on. That's what I wish Stephen A would do. But like he said, I mean, look, I get it.

That's LeBron James. It's the biggest name in pro-North American sport. And when you mention his name, good, bad, or indifferent, people don't want to click and hear what you have to say about him. But the one thing I know about this guy, and I know him a little bit, I don't know him as well as a lot of people do,

that man loves his family, he gonna protect his family now. Always, always. And I think when you think about it, and you go back to the way things happen with LeBron actually addressing Stephen A. Courtside is, well, what Stephen A. said, obviously was said publicly on a public forum, on TV.

So he addressed it the exact same way, publicly. Courtside in the middle of a game. Yes, yes. Now, as a father, you know, and like Stephen A said, he understood what LeBron was coming from. Knowing Stephen A, I think in the individual that he is, LeBron said what he had to say today, I'm sure Stephen A is going to respond to that. Because if you think about it, anytime anyone says anything to or about Stephen A, he's going to have an answer to whatever is being said.

That's just him. And it's always been him. I know you would like him to leave it alone, but I don't think that's not how this is gonna go. The only thing I would have said with Stephen A, look, I know people are gonna be like, man, LeBron should have stole on you. LeBron should have did this.

Man, they just talking. Stephen A, man, you the same. I'm about to be 57, you about to be 57. You about to be 58. But that eating that eating your own. Right. You don't fight nobody. I don't LeBron one no swing on you. And you were those and he LeBron one no swing on you.

So there would have been no need for you to swing on him. I'm glad you guys stood there and you're talking. Look, he said what he said. You seem to be receptive at the time of it. You are the seeming you said you understood because he was speaking to you as a father and not LeBron James, the basketball player. And seemingly you said you understood that.

Let it go now. Yeah. Let it go now. Look, I mean, I had issues. I remember I had a conversation with Kevin Durant when he first got traded to Phoenix. Uh-huh. And I walked into the hotel, I had issues. I remember I had a conversation with Kevin Durant when he first got traded to Phoenix Uh-huh, and I walked into the hotel like damn That's KG

And he said, oh, let me holler at you right quick That's I was okay, you know, I can so you know, I'm like, I ain't get no doubt. Don't dab. What what? It's let me holler at you right quick. So what's up, bro? He said man, what's it what it is you beef with me, you don't like me or something? I said, man, why you say that? He said, man, the way you talk. I said, KD, bro, I'm passionate. I say, any topic that we discuss on that show,

I'm very, very passionate. I spent a lot of time researching it, and I'm very, very careful to what I say. I said, KD, it ain't about no like or dislike. I say, I don't know you personally. All I talk about is what you do on the court. That's it. Whatever you may or may not do off the court.

I don't give a damn. Right. I said, you can ask your mom. I've had, I've talked to your mom at nauseam or she used to come on the show. I've seen that event. I said, Katie, there ain't no like or dislike. I said, I'm just passionate about seen that event. I said, KD ain't no like or dislike. I said, I'm just passionate about topics, bro. I said, I ain't got no, I don't dislike anybody because I don't know anybody to dislike them. It's not like, like me and Oak when, when I used to

hang out with Oak. Yeah. Oak used to work out. Charles Oakley used to run up the track with us. So Oak used to come to the gym and work out with me. Oak and I used to go out to Houston's. That was his favorite restaurant. The N word always got the cheese toast. Me and Oak had a relationship. I'd pick up the phone and call Oak. I'd say, I don't know any of these current players like that. I'd say, but I'm just passionate about topics.

I'd say, bro, I ain't no like or dislike. I'd say, but if I probably didn't like you, you know it. Right. He said, all right. He said, man, I just, he said, I just, you know. I said, cool, bro. I said, I ain't got no problem with you.

I said, anytime. Hey, he said, hey, here, give me your phone. We exchanged numbers, left it at that. He saw I was in the game the other, last year, a couple of years ago, I took my daughter to the first, was it my business? No, it was two years ago.

But anyway, had to talk to him on the bench, laugh and talk, I ain't got no problem with nobody on the show. And I'm not trying to go for bad or nothing like that, cause that ain't how I am. That guy, I think when guys see me, they know I ain't all about that, man. I'm just, I'm just cool.

I just want to vibe, have a good old time. But like I said, I appreciate instead of him, like, you know, Brie on Twitter and the internet trying to blow it up. Hey, somebody got a problem with me? Just come to me. Right. Just come to me. I ain't got no problem.

I'll talk to anybody, anybody, anywhere about anything. You got a problem with what I said? Oh, oh, oh, oh, why you said that? Sean, why you said that? Right. This is why I said that. Go ahead. Right. Hey, you know what I do like, though? I'm not sure how the people, I'm not sure how the people in the chat feel, but I enjoy when you talk about Kevin Durant, players of that magnitude, elite players. I mean, obviously we talk about one of the greatest scores of all time. I love the way Kevin Durant uses social media. I love the way he's so accessible to the people to be the star that he is.

Will LeBron win and allow himself to be vulnerable? What LeBron did today, I've never seen LeBron do before. What he did on the Pat McAvee show, sitting there for an hour straight and actually just being vulnerable, talking about everything, I really, really enjoyed that because there's some from LeBron that we've never, that obviously I've never seen before and I really, really enjoyed that. And I wish more superstar elite athletes would do that. Be a little bit more open, be a little bit more accessible.

And I mean, it was just enjoyable. It was enjoyable to see him outside that normal setting of not being viewed as the king, if that makes sense. Well, most of the great players are gonna be guarded because they're only gonna give you so much. They're gonna allow you to see so much of what they want you to see. If you look at all the great players, they've always been very, very guarded. They're not going to totally let you inside, especially while they're a current player. But back to this LeBron and Pat McAfee, like you said,

Ocho, we're not used to seeing LeBron James sit down for an extended period of time. Normally, like when he's in the finals or he's in the playoff, he would sit down. That's like five, that's like 10 minutes. And it's always basketball related too, huh? It's always basketball related. He's literally talking about other stuff going on in life. He's being vulnerable. Let people in. Something he's never, never ever done before.

Players like that of his magnitude, of his status, that allows the world and the public to see what he wants you to, to actually sit down for a change. I guarantee to you, if they were to do the numbers on how many people watch that Pat McAfee show, I bet it's astronomical, crazy, because it's something he's never done. Right. And, you know, and to see, like you said, to see him, but that just lets you know that he,

for me, looking at him, considering that he had ever, ever done anything like this before, the thing about how many people have criticized him, and he's never, ever done it before. So that lets you know he had gotten to a place that he's like I've had it up to here. Yeah. And I don't know if he knew, I don't think he knew Stephen A was gonna come to the game. But he had it in his mind if he ever saw Stephen A he was gonna step to him. But, uh, he got Stephen A's number. He got a text to call him.

If there was an issue, he got a text to call him. They communicate with each other. Obviously, they have some sort of relationship. No, they don't. You don't think so? No. Okay. Well, my bad. No.

But, like you said, I mean... What do you mean? No, they don't now, as opposed to... No, I don't think they've ever had an relationship where they pick up the phone and they talk to each other like that. Oh, well, yeah. I don't think they've ever had that type of relationship. Do I think they've been cordial to each other like that. Oh, like, oh yeah. I don't think they've ever had that type of relationship. Do I think they've been cordial to each other?

I remember, I think I saw something on an old clip, maybe with YouTube, where Steve and I actually sat down and we interviewed LeBron, but I don't think they're in a situation where they like pick up the phone, they have each other, they can call each other like that. I don't know if any, LeBron is maybe teammates? And it could, I could be wrong.

I could be wrong. I could be totally wrong. But I don't know if LeBron has his number or he has LeBron's number. LeBron is, you know, very, very, very, LeBron rocked with who he rocked with. And I think once you get to this level, if you have a developed friend by now,

LeBron James ain't letting you in his circle. Right. It's really that simple. So he got his friends, Rich is his agent, Maverick is his chief of staff, Mav is one of his business partners. I'm trying to think who else he, Chris Paul, he's very close to Chris Paul.

I think he's the godfather to run a CP3 that I think if Vice Burns is the same thing with CP. But other than that, I don't think LeBron has a whole lot of what we call, I look at those guys, like I look at Bucket, like I look at Bucket and Burns. He ain't got a whole lot of Bucket and Burns in his life. You ain't got a whole lot of, you know, T.J., your boy, you rock with T.J., T.O. You ain't got a whole lot of Bucket and Burns in his life. You ain't got a whole lot of, you know, T.J. your boy, you rock with T.J., T.O.

You ain't got a whole lot of them. Yeah, nah. And I look at LeBron and I think LeBron is kind of like that. But hopefully, hopefully, hopefully, everybody's made their point. Yeah. LeBron was upset what he said.

Steve and they said what I was trying to say. Sometimes things get lost in translation. It is what it is. But at the end of the day, I think we've got a, we've got a lot of juice. I think both have kind of squeezed that orange, Jojo. Yeah. And got a lot of juice out of it. And then LeBron took a aim at Wendy, Brian Windhorst said,

this guy says he's my best effing friend. These guys are just weird. I don't know if Wendy's ever said it. I think Wendy went to the same school he went to, Ocho. I don't think. I don't think. I've never heard, I could be wrong. Guys, hell, I was on Undisputed for seven years.

I didn't hear everything Wendy said. As a matter of fact, I didn't watch anything on anywhere. All I watched was the games that were on ESPN. I don't watch any other debate shows. I don't watch any other shows that do what I do when I'm going to be talking about something because I don't want what they say to creep in what I was going to say.

So I don't watch it. So Wendy, if he said that he was LeBron's best friend, I apologize. But I don't recall. And if I misspeak, I apologize to you guys, but I don't believe Wendy has said that he's LeBron's best friend. I think because he's covered LeBron for so long, and I think they went to the same school,

same business, same merit, he says, I think he said, I might school saying this is St. Mary. He says I think he said I might probably know him Better than anyone else, but I don't get why I mean he would say that about Wendy Yeah, you never know I think I think like I said LeBron is probably LeBron is fed up He's he's he's on I'm not saying he's on the way out the door But he's on the tail end of everything. And now he's opening up a little bit more, doing things out of character that he normally wouldn't do,

which is giving the people what they want. Letting us in, you know, giving us a glimpse of what's inside the world and mind of LeBron King James. And I enjoyed it. I enjoyed it. I hope he does more of it. I hope other athletes do more of it. You know what?

I wish LeBron, I wish LeBron would like Jeff Teague. Have you ever sat and listened to him tell stories? Yeah. LeBron, it would be an honor for him to take a page out of Jeff Teague's book and be that bone open and open and just give it to stories. I would love that. Yeah.

LeBron talked about his relationship with MJ. While he still has a misrespect for Jordan, the pair don't talk much these days. I think that would change when he retires from NBA, saying Jordan intends competitive spirit is why the two don't talk much now. We all know MJ, even if you don't know him personally, he's one of the most ruthless competitors there is. And until I'm done and he doesn't have to look at me run up and down that court wearing the 23,

every time my name is mentioned, it's mentioned with his. He's like, I don't wanna effing talk to you. Do you agree, Ocho? I mean, that's dope. That's dope. That's dope. This and that's the competitor, the competitor nature in MJ. I think it's understandable, especially when it comes to him. I think he's, he's not closed off,

but MJ and Kobe are alike in a sense. MJ and Kobe are alike in a sense. I think their relationship will be much better and a lot closer once LeBron is done playing. Yeah. They go play golf together, smoke cigars, have a little wine, whatever it is that they do. But right now while LeBron is actively playing,

I don't think him and MJ, just outside of playing the game of basketball and being successful businessmen, there's not much for them to talk about right now The only friend I know Jordan got his oak I mean oak is his guy now. I've been around Jordan a little bit and he is Ultra ultra competitive. Yeah, first thing I bet I mean I want hey you want to play cards? No, I don't want to play cards

Because you know Jordan games you got to come down with at least a hundred a hundred a hundred grand 200 grand in cash He do not like no, I say bro. You're not gonna have me you're not gonna have me living on the streets I love my house and it ain't short, but I ain't trying to keep up with you No, no, I don't I don't play no five thousand or fifty thousand dollars a hand I don't play no five thousand or fifty thousand dollars a hand. Hell nah. No, bro, bro. Guess what? As long as they make shoes with that logo, you got money coming in. I ain't in the NFL no more. I ain't got no more money coming in. You know, I was 35 then. I can draw my pension at 62.

So I got another five years before I can get that on children before I take a penalty. Hell nah, I ain't gambling with you. another five years before I can get that on children before I take a penalty and I ain't gambling with you as Matter of fact, I'm mad you asked me that you know damn well. I ain't got no money Now I'm let I'm gonna let you and I'm gonna let you know cuz I think they play guts It's kind of like boo-ray. Right you ever played boo-ray. No, sir. No, sir Or in between but nah hell nah, he also Lebron talked about Yanis on P Mac You tried to tell me Yonis wouldn't be able to play in the NBA games in the 70s Yonis would have had 250 points in a game in the 70s, but let me ask you see you transporting Yonis today back then

right Do y'all really know what they did? You're transporting Yonis today back then. Right. Do y'all really know what they did? Did y'all see those fights? How many people got to go down the lane? See, the stuff that they called, they called foul now, there wasn't no foul. There was nobody getting suspended for slapping an ish out of somebody. There was no, I mean, there was no, I mean, what did uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, calm alone, put 44 stitches in that sale here. You still think you want to come down the lane? Yeah.

Do y'all remember the, uh, the finals in 84 when Larry, when, uh, um, Larry Burke, when, uh, who was that? Kevin McHale snatch Kurt Ramsey inside the sky. Yeah. Yeah. And it wasn't a playground for, it wasn't nothing. If nobody was suspended, you can't take the modern play because Ocho, you talk about technology and you talk about the modernization.

Yes. If you transform Yannis today and put him back then looking like this, yeah, what player couldn't? What player, if I take Ocho, if I take you today, you know what you know in the technology that you've been able to develop and put you back in the 70s. Man, Ocho will kill it. Yes. Yeah.

Yeah. Modernization. That's unfair. Yeah. I think from what it looks like. It's just like it's unfair. One more thing, Ocho. Just like it's unfair to say, oh, man, Jordan played today.

He averaged 50. Let's, how about this? Let's leave everybody in the era in which they played. Yonis plays in the 2010s and 2020s. LeBron has been in the 2000s, the 2010s, and now the 2020s. Let's leave everybody that, because it's unfair. It's unfair. Look. It's unfair. Look, I get it.

And it's a conversation. But come on, because we're wrong. We're not being fair to the guys that played in that era. That was great. Right. Because it's almost like if you talk about these guys, like you're trying to minimize them. And I get mad at the old guys for trying to minimize the current players

guys You were great. Nobody's trying to rob you of that. You were great These guys are great the guys in the 60s that were great the guys in the 70s were great guys in the 80s, right? But it's unfair, Ocho. I mean, listen, I understand what LeBron was saying. Obviously he is exaggerated a little bit, but if you look at the players from back then, I know just being honest,

from a technical standpoint, from a physical standpoint, I know what they did in between the lane and being physical and slapping and punching and all that, but you're thinking about Giannisis and Yannis today. Oh my goodness, that athletic ability. It's called technology, Ocho. You got an opportunity to work on things. Guys didn't have modern medicine.

They didn't have technology. Think about when you ruptured Achilles. You were done. You tore a knee. You were done. You had that big ass bulky knee brace, that big done joy on. It's different now. We got modern medicine.

We know how to eat. We know how to train. We have personal trainers and bizio. Those guys in the 60s and 70s and 80s didn't have the money to have all of this stuff. Right. But Brian, when you're making $50 million in basketball and another $75, $80 million off the court.

You could have a chef that prepares every meal to your specifications. You can have a physio, you can have a Mike Macias as Lebron, as excuse me, as Jordan had Tim Grover. Tim and I, Tim and I, we still, we text a lot now. But it's different. It's not fair that you try to compare this era to that era or that era to this era. My name is Brendan Patrick Hughes, host of Divine Intervention. This is a story about radical nuns in combat boots and wild-haired priests trading blows with J. Edgar Hoover

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Dame and Yonis both were injured dame is out indefinitely Should the bucks be thankful that Yonis had all-time? finals run in 2022, I mean 2021 Because it seemed like every since then at at some point in time, a key player has been injured. Chris Middleton was injured. Then there was a couple of years that Yonis was injured and then you had Yonis and Dane both injured and now Dane is injured and the Bucks are not going anywhere without just

Yonis. First of all, he's not going to be at the Cavs without him and he's not going to be able to beat, he's not going gonna be able to beat the Celtics. He damn, he wasn't gonna probably be able to beat the Celtics with Dane. Without along with him, without him, I'm not so sure they can beat the Knicks without Dane. The days of one guy dominating a series

and winning the whole, that's over. You forget all about that. Yeah, I mean, it's unfortunate. It's unfortunate, obviously it's very, very serious. When Mayama has something similar to this, if I'm not mistaken, I don't know if the diagnosis You forget all about that. Yeah. I mean, it's unfortunate. It's unfortunate. Obviously it's very, very serious. When Myama has something similar to this, if I'm not mistaken, I don't know if the diagnosis is exactly the same,

but obviously it's a blood clot. I'm glad they were able to catch it. It sucks. It sucks for the bucks. It sucks for the organization. And it most definitely sucks for Damien Litter and his family. I'm hoping a speedy recovery for him,

especially something like this, is very, very serious, especially when it comes to the- Oh yeah, you on blood thinners. You probably gonna be on blood thinners the rest of his life. Man. Yeah, that sucks, man.

I hope he gets better fast, man. The Lakers, fall into the magic, 109, 98. The Lakers win three, with three losses in a row. They lost seven out of their last 10 ball games. They lost to Boston, Brooklyn, Milwaukee, Denver. Then they won three straight, beat Phoenix, San Antonio, Denver. Then they lost another three straight, Milwaukee, Chicago, and Orlando. The Lakers bench was outscored 30 to 14, which was an issue.

The Lakers got to do a better job of guarding. Watch this game from start to finish. They're just not guarding. They're just not guarding. Now look, they're about a year or two away. Orlando, Paulo Boncaro, and Ron Wagner. Oh, they legit. Oh, they legit legit.

Yeah. They legit legit. Ben Carrol had 30, Wagner had 32, and then they got Black, came up the bench and gave him 17, but they are legit. The Lakers gotta do a better job of defending. It's really that simple. They didn't shoot the ball well.

They shot about 46%. They shot 28 free throws. The free throw was pretty close. 10 and 32 from the three point line. The difference was Orlando shot down there 50% from the floor. You're not gonna beat a team if you allow them to shoot 50% from the floor.

But everything was really close. I mean, Orlando had 43 rebounds, 12 offensive. The Lakers had 39, 11 offensive. But the only difference I could really see, O Ocho was that third quarter got them again. The Lakers had a two point lead at the half and then they get outscored in the third quarter by about 14, 16 and it's the third quarter again. JJ is going to have to push some different buttons because they come out lack of days ago and they let the team go on the run and it's hard to reattach yourself to them when

they get a streak like that But give Orlando credit They won their the ad as a matter of fact they they broke they stopped Cleveland they went on the road Yeah, Cleveland had a 16 17 game win streak. They went into their building and they won so They went into their building and they won. So, the record, they are better than their record would indicate. But the problem was Ben Carroll got hurt at one point in time.

Wagner got hurt at one point in time. So they haven't been able to play an extended period of time together. But this is a good team. Don't let their record fool you. But the Lakers have to be disappointed. They gotta play better than fourth spot right now. They're two and a half, I think two and a half games

out of the second spot. But tonight, again, it was defense. They gave up 146 Saturday night and they gave up 118 tonight. And they had been playing really, really good defense up until that point. Okay, now with everything that you said, they're in forth, right?

They lost at night. You understand the problems and the woes that the Lakers are having, the inconsistencies. They want to run. You're understanding their woes coming out of halftime in the third quarter. Allowing teams always going to run. Now think about everything you just said.

I want your honest answer and your honest opinion. Hey, the Steel Lakers are fine? I want your honest answer and your honest opinion. Is it still legacy five? Legacy five. Legacy five. Look, that's fixable, that look, that's fixable, Ocho, that's something like, look guys, we've gotta do a better job of defending. And you can't, guys can't get broken down off the first dribble. Right can't get broken down off the first dribble.

You get broken down in the first dribble, now you're compromised, because help's coming, and now they swing the ball, they're getting wide open threes, or they're getting uncontested layups. So you can't get broken down off the first dribble. They gotta score 34 to 18 in the third quarter.

I mean, there's no, there in no way should Lakers team that got Luca Donjic and LeBron James on the court only score 18 points in a quarter. Yeah. And if you only score 18, you better make sure they don't, they don't score more than 22. Oh, mhm.

Because if you do that, and I get it, the Lakers, I think they played what, seven games, well at one point in time they had seven games in 10 days. But we don't do excuses here. You either win or you lose. It's a very short, on sports menu at my restaurant, only thing I got on my menu is dubs and A's. That's all you can order.

You can't order excuses, cause I don't serve it. So the Lakers are gonna have to find a way to play better in the third quarter. They're gonna have to find a better way play better in the third quarter. They're going to have to find a better way to find a better way to defend. Right. Cause this is not, this is not acceptable. This is not acceptable. I mean, look at all these minuses.

Dorian Finney Smith, minus six, LeBron minus 17, Jackson Hayes minus 10, Luca minus nine, Austin Reeves minus seven. Every starter was minus. Hell, as a matter of fact, everybody was minus. That's not good enough. You can't win like that. There's nowhere around it, you can't win like that. And when you take Jackson Hayes out,

Braun is basically playing the five. Too small of a lineup. Yeah. I mean, maybe the last two, three minutes, four minutes of a ball game, you can run this lineup, but not when they go in Bankero, not when they go in bank not when they go in bank, Cairo Not when they go in Wendell Carter not when they go in Voss Franz Wagner You small yes, too small

Redick admitted the Lakers look tired tonight. We weren't able to sustain the level of intensity We started a game with they did it scored 30 in the first quarter, third in the second quarter, 60. They had a two point lead, 60 to 58 at the half. But then again, out of the third quarter, here come Orlando, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. Yeah. And there you go. Same quarter every time.

Maybe they play some different music at the half, huh? They need to do something, cause this ain't getting it done. This ain't getting it done. This ain't getting it done. I mean, and what's their record? So that's 50, that's 61, that's 71 games. They only got 11 games left, Ocho. Yeah.

You're supposed to be gearing up. You're supposed to be playing your best ball heading into the playoffs. Not, you know, maybe they left a little bit on, because at one point they were like 18 and three. How, won a bunch of games. You don't want to be sliding going into the playoffs. You want to be playing your best ball

hitting into the playoffs. But this performance was unacceptable. And Don Konek only played five minutes. But I think a lot of that has to do with his defense intensity, I mean mean he needs to understand I mean, he just gets lost his land and I could tell JJ is JJ doesn't like minimal stakes. Yeah, that hurts him Because he's a perfectionist and he wants guys like guys we went over this that's why I couldn't coach we went over this

The guy comes. Okay, you stay on that guy. Don't try to fight over the top and leave the guy on a wide open three So Lakers got some problems Nothing, they can't solve they got what three more games on this road trip I think they got a four game road trip before they turn back to the crib Well, I know that hurt. I know that those road trips back in Indiana. Yeah.

Yeah. So they got they got they got away. They got they got they got three more games on the road. Oh Joe before they turn return home. They need to play better than what they played tonight or what they definitely what they played against the Bulls. Yeah. They picked right up where they left off, not playing defense.

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women's sports production in partnership with Athletes Unlimited Softball League and D-Flu Sports and Entertainment. Listen to Dropping Diamonds with AJ Andrews on the iHeart Women's Sports production in partnership with Athletes Unlimited Softball League and Deep Blue Sports and Entertainment. Listen to Dropping Diamonds with A.J. Andrews on the iHeart radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts. Brought to you by Novartis, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports Network. Hey, all you women's hoops fans,

and folks who just don't know yet that they're women's hoops fans. We've got a big week over at Good Game with Sarah Spayne as we near the end of one of the most exciting women's college basketball seasons ever. The most parody we've seen in years, with games coming down to the wire and everyone wondering which team will be crowned national champions this weekend in Tampa. Listen to Good Game with Sarah Spayne on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. My name is Brendan Patrick Hughes, host of Divine Intervention.

This is a story about radical nuns in combat boots and wild haired priests trading blows with J. Edgar Hoover in a hell bent effort to sabotage a war. J. Edgar Hoover was furious. He was out of his mind and he wanted to bring the Catholic left to its knees Listen to divine intervention on the I heart radio app Apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts What's up, everyone? Julie's to a pink Sierra along with former NHL player Nate Thompson. We're doing a new podcast together Here we go. The name?

Energy Line with Nate and JSB. Each week we'll get together and talk about hockey, life. All topics are fair game, right? Exactly, and you'll never know who will drop by to join us. Julie is pretty well connected. She has text threads going that you wouldn't believe. Listen to Energy Line with Nate and JSB on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts,

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