Club Shay Shay - Nightcap - Hour 1: LeBron hits game winner vs Pacers, TJ Houshmandzadeh joins the show to talk all things Bengals!

Episode Date: March 27, 2025

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson react to Lakers winning a thriller against the Pacers! TJ Houshmandzadeh joins the show to talk all things Bengals! TJ also tells everyone why he believes Ocho should be in the HOF!06:14 - Show start09:25 - Pacers v Lakers28:40 - TJ Houshmandzadeh joins the show1:03:00 - LeBron James on Pat McAfee(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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We pinned the link in the top of the chat. Our guest lineup is looking insane. You guys don't wanna miss out on this one. Grab your tickets while you can. Hold on. Go ahead. I know you may, I know you're making an announcement right? Yeah. As I know the fans want to know and you know I'm nosy as hell. Y'all don't never tell me the lineup because I can't hold water right? Right. Can I just get, can I get one guest name for Baltimore? Just just one, I just want to get excited. Yes, we've got TJ Houchmanzada,

Tony Baker joined us later tonight in the show. Without the T, we just want you to put two S's on the energy. We got TJ Houchmanzada, former teammate of O'Jos, and Tony Baker, the very funny comedian and voiceover guy. Tony Baker joins us a little later in the show. But first, go James, go James, go James. For the first time, he entered the game in the fourth quarter where he hadn't scored a field goal.

He had three points. If I'm not mistaken, I think he only had two points at the half. And he has a streak, 18 years, he's scored at least 10 points in every game for the last 18 years. It's the longest consecutive streak of double-digit games in NBA history. And he kept the streak alive because he was sensational. I think he scored 12 points in the fourth quarter, but none bigger than the tip-in at

the buzzer to give them the win. The Lakers beat the Pacers 120 to 119. Lakers had a 17 point lead. They squandered that again. Oh Joey, it was the third quarter. What quarter? Third, third. Every time.

They gave up 37 points in the third quarter. Remember the other night, they gave up 34 points in the third quarter. It looked like they scored a little over 60 points in the third quarter. And it looked like they scored a little over 60 points in the second half. And that'll get you beat. And the Lakers are gonna have to fight out until it's important to them to take care of the basketball,

to play better defense. They're gonna find themselves in these kinds of games because they allow teams to hang around because they turn the ball over. When they can stretch and lead to 20-22-23 they turn the ball over in a couple of quick threes and now all of a sudden a 17-point game Yeah is down under 10, but yeah when it mattered the most and that's what good players That's what great players do they can play bad

No matter the sport Oh Joe they can play bad for a particular period of time But when they absolutely have to have it, they can dig down. Now, a lot of times, you and I both played the game of football. Sometimes when things are not going our way, we'll mow the creek when our game creep into our minds in an effect that overall play.

Yes, sir. I thought he rebounded the ball extremely well. He had 13 rebounds. He led the Lakers in rebounds. He did a great job of facilitating, considering Luca is the primary ball handler now. He led the legacy rebounds. He did a great job of facilitating considering Luca is the primary ball handler now. Let him in the sixth with seventh.

But when he needed it, he dug down and in the fourth corner, he got it going. He played half primarily, had the ball in his hand while Luca was on the bench getting his rest to start the fourth. He got his double digits and then he turned it back over to Luca and Luca got hot again down the stretch. I think Luca ended up with 34 points AR Oscar Reeves had

24 but we are run at the end of the ball game They got the tip in at the buzzer because this would have been heartbreaking. This would have been a gut-wrenching loss They lost this game. They would have let this on me. They on the old three They were on the old three skid then the old three skid for one Like you said earlier, they can play in stretches in the game and get a lead, because of the lack of defense, and always being effing, beating transition.

Being lazy, turning the ball over, they allow teams to come back in, teams that they should be dominating. Obviously the game of basketball is about against, is a game of runs, but still you're playing the Pacers. I'm not saying the Pacers are horribly sorry, but when it comes to the Lakers, if you're serious about not only making the playoffs

or keeping the seed that you're in, this is a game that you're supposed to go in and dominate quarter by quarter. But yet again, in the third quarter, after having the lead they had, they almost squandered that. And LeBron had to come. They did, because the Pacers ended up

taking the lead, don't you? They squandered the lead they did come to the place and ended up taking the lead don't you think they took the lead and then uh what I don't want to I don't want to butcher his last name Roy Roy Roy Hachimura brother brother Hachimura Hakatana hit the two threes towards the end of the game and LeBron had to come through in a magical moment in the game. They should have lost honestly. Yeah lost That one LeBron old Lockroom say Knowing LeBron. He's probably not real guy. Hey, that was a big win, but I owe y'all. Yeah

But for that first hand put a game because I think what was he ended up for 12? Yeah, so he was 311 before that tip You know Joe so he ends up going for 12 and he's he knows all seven from the three He knows he didn't his overall game But the thing is about a great player you find other ways to impact the game look at his defensive rebound it look I mean look at his rebound and look at his assist Is a sis let him in the sis let him a rebound But that's what great players do.

They find ways to impact the game, even though he wasn't scoring. A lot of times the score when he's not scoring, he's moats, he pouts. And all of a sudden it impacts other areas of the game. Can you impact the game when you're not doing what you normally do to impact the game? Find other ways to influence the game. Rebound the basketball. Can I other ways to influence the game, rebound the basketball. Can I facilitate? Can I play defense?

Can I guard, draw a charge, and things of that nature? And I was very happy to see LeBron then pull it out, had a lot going on today. Luca, in the month of March, 31.4 points a game. Eight and a half rebounds, 8.6 assists, 43 points, so basically 44% from the three point line on 11 attempts per game. He's on pace to be the youngest Laker

to average 30 points in a single month since Kobe in 2003. Nah, hey, I like the Lakers chance. I love all the mantras, all the quotes of Lakers in five, but I honestly think they need one more piece. As great as Hakatana, as great as Hakatana, Ruri is playing, they need something else. Another score, LeBron has an off night, then Luca gives you what he does tonight.

He was kind of off and on but he still ended up with 34. But I think if they just had one more person, they give him just a little bit more. I know Reed is good. I know Rue can work your score as well. They just need one more piece of that puzzle. Well what they were hoping for, what they were hoping for that Alex Lin could give them something. Now I don't know what they see from Alex Lynn since he been in the league. And you don't like Buddy, man. But it's not about like or dislike, Ochoa.

I mean, I think the Chatters would agree. They've watched him at many different stops. I think he's been in Washington. I think he's been with the, uh, uh, uh, the Suns. He's been different places. He's what he is. Yeah, he's what he is. Right. I don't care. You take a grizzly bear out of the forest Whether he in Alaska or he's in Canada or he's right. It does not matter

You take him out of that and you put him in a different environment. He's still a grizzly bear. Okay Yeah, his instincts does not go away. Right. Well, in other words, if he's sorry over here, what do you expect him to be over there? He'd be that. I mean, it's not like he was good at one point in time, Ocho, and you say, you know what, hopefully he can summon that up again.

But he has not been good at any stop. He's tall. Now, a coaching is calling his name. It is what it is. And I'm just being factual. They're not anybody else out there that can help him, Ocho. And the problem is, is that when, when Jackson Hayes goes to the bench, they're a small team. They don't have another big. LeBron got to go to the five.

LeBron has to go to the five. Or you bring in to go to the five or you bring in Dorian Phoenix Smith and he has to play the flat five. But they're a very very small team and that's the problem that you have because you're really not playing Jackson Hayes more than 25 minutes a night. Right. And he's a guy and the thing that I love about me, you love and you hate, is that you don't run plays for Jackson Hayes. He's a lob guy. He gives it off the rim. He gives you a second chance opportunities, but he's not a guy that you can run to the parlor and say, hey, he's gonna put his back to the basket, throw it to a hand, and he's gonna do something with it. That's not what he is.

That's not who he is. Right. Now, I got a question now. Now, listen, you know, my knowledge of the game of basketball is a little limited. I'm getting better at it though. Now, listen, if they got. Now listen, if they gotta go small, if they gotta go small, shouldn't the Lakers at times, depending on who it is, be at an advantage when it comes to playing small and having to transition up and down the court as opposed to, you know.

Yeah, if the other team goes small, but what happens when they got Jokic out there? What do you do then? Ah. And that's the problem. Okay, let's just say you played Memphis. Right. Memphis got Zach Eady who's seven three.

Yeah. So even if he's not in real threat. He's a clogging up space though, huh? He's a clogging up space. He's not advantageous on offense at all. Or am I wrong? He's gonna give you extra possession because of rebounding. Okay, and Without rebounding there are no rings without rebounding

Okay, that's that's the problem that the Lakers gonna have even when LeBron goes LeBron has enough not you still have AR and Luca that can carry the load if Lucas struggling LeBron AR can start can carry the load if AR's Struggling Luca and LeBron and AR can carry the load. If AR is struggling, Luca and LeBron can still carry the load. So look, you got three guys that can score. AR is giving you like 20 a night, LeBron is giving you 25, Lucas is giving you 30. Right. Okay, that's fine. One of those guys struggling, the other guys can take over. Need a little bit better production consistently from the bench. You got some good minutes tonight, but JJ is just gonna have to trust Dalton Connect. I think the thing is that he loses his way sometime on the defensive end and being around JJ the little bit I had working with him at ESPN, he

doesn't like that. He likes students of the game. He likes smart guys. Smart guys you can win with, even if they're not the most talented. Supremely talented guys, that doesn't have basketball IQ, get your ass beat. And that frustrates JJ, because JJ wasn't the most talented, although he was a great player in college

and a really good player in the NBA. He was very smart. He knew where it was supposed to be, when it was supposed to be there. Right. Boom. So he did. Listen, he did all the small things right. Yes. Very detailed. Yes. Very disciplined. And when you're not

supremely athletic, Ocho, you're not supremely athletic. You're not 6'8", 6'9". You gotta do everything right. Or you don't have handles like a Kyrie. You're not six eight six nine anything right or you don't have handles like a Kyrie right you're not right wait uh-huh so what other way can I find a way to get on the court stay on the court and not cost my team and if you look at it oh chill I think there's ten games left and you look at three through eight there's only four games difference there's only four games difference. There's only four games difference. You're basically, you're three, four games back.

Denver Nuggets have the same well lost record as the Lakers and they're in the three seed. Lakers are four. Right. Memphis is five. All of them have 28 losses. And then you got the Clippers, Golden State with 31 losses which are three games back.

And you got Minnesota at 32 losses at a game back of them so four games separate three through eight and there's ten games to go right ten games to roll excuse me ten games to go so the rubber gotta beat the road something gotta give yeah what's what's what's the high what's the highest seed or what do you think is preferable for you as a Laker fan for them? Well, I think the thing is that you want to get some root. What would be easier for them, best case scenario, to be able to get out of the first round or at least have a chance getting to the second round? Have home court advantage. So you need to be one through four to have home court advantage.

They're not going to get the one seed because OKC has run away with that. So the one seed has already entered in stone. Now could they get the two seed? Yeah, that's a possibility. They got the rockets on the schedule. They need to close out this road game strong and then go home and close out that home stand strong. I can see them three or four. Right. Three or four. So that means that if everything remains the same,

that means they get Memphis in the first round. Ooh, what you like about that matchup in game two? I say just stay away from OKC. We need to get some rhythm going before we see OKC. We need some pressure to mount. Ain't no pressure in the first round. They need pressure. So you're saying Memphis ain't no pressure? No, not for the Lakers. I like that matchup against Memphis.

Well, you know who Memphis got over there? Yeah, Jah. Yeah? Yeah. I give you Jah, I give you Luka. Who you take it? OK. I give you Jah, I give you LeBron, who you taking?

Okay. Okay. No, now they got Jaren Jackson, who's a DPOY candidate, who made the All-Star game. Bane has played well in the absence. Ja's nursing a hamstring or something, but he's been up and down. Now when he's been in, he's Ja. I mean, he's the second pick in the Ja, he's been in, he's jaw. I mean, he's the second pick in the jab.

He's been an all star. So you know what he can do. I mean, nobody's surprised. I mean, just to actually go to a game and watch him and to watch the way he elevating, the way he can contort his body, he's special. He's a guy that I pay my good money to go see. Because that's what he is.

Look, I base a guy on if I'm paying my money to come see it, I'm paying my money to come see you. I mean, y'all, you're damn, I'm going to point you average. You're not interested. That's got nothing to do with me. Jaws interested because he can finish above the rim. Got a nice little float game, mid range shot. He's gotten better at shooting the set three, Mm-hmm. But he's fun to watch.

I like that matchup. Do I think they can beat anybody? Yes. In seven games? Absolutely. Because Luca and LeBron can both take over game and give you 40. Mm-hmm. So those two guys, but the thing is, Hojo, in the playoffs, your three best guys need to be really good.

Two or three need to be really good. Two or three need to be great. Right. Damn near every single night. Now if I'm getting 80 points, 60, if I'm getting 65 to 80 points from my big three, I'm going to need the other six guys, because you're not going to go that deep. Playoff start, you might go nine. As you go further, you reduce that. But I'm going to need those other nine guys.

Those three guys give me eight. I'm going to need those other guys to give me 35. And they're going to have to get a little bit more production from the bench. Gabe Benson is shooting the ball a little better. Penny Smith is doing a little better, but they got to make a decision. What are we going to do at Dalton Connect?

Because he can shoot the three, but he gets lost. He gets lost on defense and he gives up easy buckets. And I don't know what's something is being lost in translation. Oh Joe, he's a liability. Well, all of them look, look, a little defense. Don't always read. Listen, a player defense, LeBron can't sit in the chair no more. LeBron has been mainly a help side defender.

He does use his body really well. Guys try to go around him. He'll body him up because that's a big man to try to move. And so he slows him down like that. But LeBron can't sit in the chair and no one expects him to, Ojo. He's 40. What guy you know play defense at 40?

Kobe didn't, Jordan, I'm talking about historically great players. Even Pippen defense at 40? Kobe didn't. Jordan didn't. I'm talking about historically great players. Even Pippen that Pippen that didn't play until he was 40, he couldn't slide those feet like he could when he was in his prime. We understand that because you and I talked about it the other night. The lateral quickness is what you lose as he starts to age. So with that being said, O Joe, I like the Lakers I believe they can beat anybody in the Western Conference. Yeah, it'll be a struggle But okay, see How do you see that fire Still we still we still win it at five

So you want to hold up going to the next topic? Hash? Okay. Oh Joe. Yo. I don't know if it was this morning or it was taken yesterday. I'm thinking it this morning.

What happened? LeBron went on the Pat McAfee show. Yeah, yeah, I saw that. He had a lot to say today. Yeah, that was out of character to him. I've never seen him in that setting before and actually just talking freely like that. Yeah. So we're gonna get to that in just a second

while we wait for TJ to connect. But the Lakers, I'm looking at, the Clippers, I think the thing is, Ocho, you're trying to stay out of seven through 10, because you don't wanna play any more games than you have to. You won't rest. And it won't start until the seven, eight, nine, 10,

to determine who to play and who's it gonna be seven, who's gonna be eight, to that determined. So you need rest. LeBron James is 40. He's been playing, he played what, 38, 39 minutes tonight. So he's gonna need rest. Any bumps and bruises, you want to try to get those guys as healthy as you possibly can. Now, the best thing about the playoffs, you don't play every other, you don't play it back to back. I mean, the first game you play and then you might have a couple of days off

and then you get into the routine, you play it every other day. Okay, you can live with that. But you try to get LeBron, LeBron is going to need as much rest as he possibly can because he is 40. Here's what it is. And so once they determine who they're going to, once they are, if they can secure one of these top six seeds, you avoid the play-in, you get an opportunity to get a couple of days of rest and then hey, for tomorrow, it's for all the game. It's Julie Stewart. Thanks. I'm doing a new podcast from I heart podcasts and the national hockey league.

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Presented by Capital One, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports. Oh, he joined us. T, T, what's up T? TJ ain't no better than I am that working at technology. Hey, T. What'd you say? Can you hear us? Yeah, I can hear you.

Oh, no, you can hear that. Don't pretend like you can hear us all alone. No, I couldn't. I know what they're man. I know what they were. So what's happening? What's that? Hey, I look at look, I'm slow. And I see you got your little ass back in that weight room. You need to get up. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. What's up? You got to get on that Shannon shark player should we love the motherfucking

Hey, I'm on the Shadis all plan Hey slide your boy one of the things hey, I got you I got you hey listen listen you put it under the tongue Boy does one is you hear me? Hey slide your boy way let me. I got you, I got you, I got you, I got you. Look, how did I get involved with this? Hey, TJ, let me ask you this. When you first met Hooch, I mean, when you first met Hooch, what was your impression of this dude? Man, so we met in college.

Right. He was just real chill. Real, real chill. Chad don't really talk no shit till it's like the competition start. Other than that, Chad chilling. And then when the competition start, that's when all the shit. So, you know, I thought Chad was hella quiet. And then we went to practice. I said, oh shit, who is this? It was just a different guy.

Who is this fool? Man, straight up, who is this fool? Exactly. Oh, them some good days, man. Them some good days. Oh, them some good days. DJ. Been knowing you since we was teenagers, basically.

Yeah. That's crazy. How many years has it been? Listen, my man, I'm not a man, basically. Yeah. That's crazy. How many years has it been? Listen, my man, I'm not a man. You're 40. You're 46. If you were a teenager, then be 28. Chad, that's damn near 30 years, bro.

Yes. Golly, boy. Hey, you know what's crazy, though, Chad? I was just telling somebody this. No, we still look the same. Boy, God done blessed us when we was. Hey. Hey. Hey, you know what they say say the black of the juice is sweeter than berry

Hey Chad, God bless something like that. God said that's my son. He hit us with that stick that yeah Bless you to keep your hair. He didn't bless. Oh Joe with that. Oh wait. Hey TJ Can you tell I can grow a full set of hair now? Chad? he always had a bald head. He ain't never had no hair. Grow some hair here and there. He always had. Yeah, see? See? It's sporadic. It's sporadic. I know. I listen. And about a fact, TJ, Ocho hair is kind of like my sex life.

Sporadic. Sporadic. Nah, don't do that. You know that ain't the truth there. What if I ain't got no spark. I don't want you to cut me out of my deal. I can't get no spark because he already told him to. Hey, I got about three boxes full. Elijah Boyd, you always in LA. You come to LA, you hangin' on. How old is your boy? Hey, matter of fact, I'm going to be in LA on the and all. How about your boy? Hey matter of fact, I'm gonna be in LA on the 30th.

But you gotta understand, these are prescribed specifically for me based on the questions I had to ask before I ordered them. So they're prescribed to you. Now I'm not sure if you would be able to use mine because mine is like putting 93 in your car. You hear me? Yeah, he got the high tip dance. Hey, listen. I know Chad. I know Chad. I know. I know. Yeah, yeah, hey, listen, I know I know Chad I know I know Tj you think the Bengals reside they resigned T. We knew they were gonna reside Chase that was a no-brainer

You're talking about one of the top, the top three receivers in the league and I'm not sure he's two or three. You make the case, it's easy to say he or Jetta, based on the last three years, they're one, one, eight, one, whatever the case you want to go. Are you surprised that the Bengals were able

to get a deal done with T? No, not at all. Who else earned it? Them two dudes earned it. When you go outside of Trey Hendrickson, nobody else on the team has earned that money. We knew they was going to pay Jamar. They always going to pay their best receiver in the quarterback.

They always going to do that. What shocked me, T, when he fired David Mulligeta, he basically told the Bengalsals I want to stay in Cincinnati Right. I fired my agent because I want to stay here. Y'all make that happen. He took a pay cut to stay in Cincinnati Absolutely. He really did and so no it didn't surprise me But shit who else earned it nobody else on that team earned it outside of Trey Hendricks And so you gotta pay somebody. The Eagles paying everybody. The big league.

They somebody. But, Mati, this is what you gotta think about. When you think about the Eagles and with Lurie and young Bullers over there doing. High arrangement. Yeah, yeah. But the Rosemans, they pay everybody a little bit early. They catching them early, but they not paying

top dollar, AXE, for the players that they're specific position. But the Bengals, we waiting on the back end. We waiting on the back end and forcing the players to bet on themselves. Chad, you ain't never. So they could have had Jamar at what, 35, 36? They could have had, two years ago. Two years ago, and they know this is the truth

because I told them. They could have had T. Higgins five years, 100 million. They said that was too much. Right. And I know this because that was too much. Right. And I know this because I told them this. Right. But the Eagles, they paying AJ Brown got paid at the top. Devontae, LinkedIn get paid at the top.

Jalen Hurts got paid at the top. What organization you know, sign a dude to a deal. He ball out and they say, you know what man, you outplayed your deal. We're gonna give you another deal after one year. The way they just did Saquon Barkley. Gave 20 mil. Look, I'm praying if I'm a rookie coming out that I get drafted to the Eagles the way they... Absolutely.

...played, man. Right, right, right, right, right, right. But then also you got to understand how special Saquon Barkley is. This is just not your average running back or average leader. Tell them you're special in New York and they wouldn't pay you. Chad, you know being special when you under that contract, dang, you know more money. Right, right. Wild way.

But also, but look, you got to understand the importance and value that he brought to that team in general. Some of the pressures that he took off Jalen Hurst throughout that season, what he was able to do for them offensively, actually getting them over the hump. Yeah, he was the team. it hurts throughout that season. Woody was able to do for them offensively, actually getting them over the hump and getting to that Super Bowl run. So I understand, especially everything he's been through, the storyline in general, that's one of the greatest stories right now. Giants, we're going to tag him because we don't really value the position anymore. That's dumb. The Giants should have got a Super Bowl ring for how dumb they are. Letting say, they should have been given a Super Bowl ring. They dumb. Yeah. Hey, so listen,

knowing the bangles and understanding what we need, the way we looked last year, how we finish, understanding what we need to do offensively, obviously we need to start fast. But on the defensive side of the ball, what do you think we need to do come draft? What do we need most? We got to be able to stop the run. I believe Jenkins is to be a second year. If anything like his daddy, he going to be better. So, your pops was a hell of a defensive tackle. He's going to be better. Just his bloodlines and a year of experience. We just going to have to draft well on defense, man We're gonna be able to draft. Well, like we draft Myles Murphy out of Clemson in the first round

He got to start playing like that now. It's going into his third year. He ain't playing like a first-round draft He got a play like that We need count Taylor Britt to play how he played in 2023 Yeah, Turner was playing well, then he got hurt. And so they can do it, it's just they cannot miss. We can't miss with draft picks on the defense side of the ball. When you gonna pay the offense, you got to draft and develop on the defensive side of the ball.

That's gonna be the key. We gotta make sure we get three starters out of this draft on defense. If you notice, little Joe. Wait, wait, three starters that can come in and start right now? Right now. Right, your first you notice, little Jones. Wait, wait, three stars that can come in and start right now? Right now. Right. Your first round pick, your second round pick, and somebody else that just surprises you. What do you see from the Eagles? What do they get? Jordan Davis, Jalen Carter, Brother Mikel, De'John.

You see what they did? Yeah, all like this. Blanket Shil, you see it? Nicole B. Dean, Nola Smith Jr. All on defense. Because we're paying all the money, 50 plus million for Hertz. We got 33, 34, 33 million tied up in AJ. We got 28 million tied up in Devante the and Devante and we made our entire office of mine Lane Johnson Dickerson my lotta

And we don't know we gotta hit it out the park on the defensive side or Joe because we can't pay top dollar That's why they let those guys leave Think about the guys that left. Yeah, we're doing One guy went to Arizona because we can't pay him. Not Jaylon Carter. Woo! Woo! He about to get 41, 42 million. Yeah.

Go ahead and give him to it now before you have to pay him 50 million. Yeah. Hey T, think about how bad our defense was, right? And obviously they paid T, they paid Burrow, we paid Chase. What do you think about Trey Henderson? Do we pay Trey Henderson market value?

Or is he gonna give him a home team discount? No, he not. We pay him market value, Chad, but what's market value? What's market value? I mean, he got 33, what, 36 sacks in the past two seasons? He got 35, 17 and a half for the last two years, 35 sacks. This is what I'll say. I'm a pain, but I'm not making him one of the highest paid

defensive players. I'm not doing it. You can't. Whoa, how are you not gonna do that? Number one, number one, this is where, we call this hustling backwards. I ain't hold now, I'm trying to get money. I'm not going to lose money.

You do that. We hustling backwards now. Right. Right. He not going to hold out. So I'm doing my solid. I'm giving he's supposed to make 17 million dollars, I believe, this year. If the Bengals would be fair, they bump him up to 28 to 30. The 30 would be the max that I would give him if it was the Bengals. We got to understand, he a hell of a player. He had five sacks against the Raiders.

Five sacks against the Raiders. And so he showed up big time the last game against the Steelers. You got three. With him being 31, you can't give this man a four year extension at 35 plus a year. I'd give him 28 to 30 million. I believe the Bengals to do that. How much are you going to give him guaranteed? How much are you going to give him fully guaranteed?

Cause that's what I'm looking at. Damn them big ass numbers. See now Shannon, you talking now, now talking like that agent right there. Like, Hey, I say, I say about, uh, I'm gonna give me 45 guaranteed 45 guaranteed. That's about, I don't know if he's gonna take that. He ain't taking that. No, no, no. This is the thing though. Cause if you look at T Higgins contract, if I'm guaranteed 30 in the first year, just

say 35 in the first year, 35 in the first year if you trade Hendrickson. And then I give you a $10 million roster bonus in the off season. I'm not releasing you. Your base salary for that second season is pretty much guaranteed. It's just not part of the fully guaranteed part of the contract. So now your base salary is somewhere along 15 million. That's 60 million dollars in two years you go make. And it ain't fully guaranteed, but 15 of it is as long as you got that 10

million dollar roster bonus, they're not going to give you 10 million in offseason and release you. Hey, they say, did y'all see what they did to Aaron Rodgers? Did y'all see what they did? Y'all see what they did to Aaron Rodgers? Did y'all see what they did to Russell Wilson? They will release you. Even if you got 30 plus, Russell had 36 million guaranteed. They said, that'll be good.

What Russell Wilson did to himself when he was playing? Yeah, all right. I think TJ, for me, I think he might be content if you fully guarantee the first two years at about $60 million, because you said that $30 million level, you're not trying to put him at a 34 million. You're not trying to put him at Miles Garrett, which is 40 million. So I think two years at 60 million, the last three years are going to be boardable, but

he's going to want something, a big number to make a big splash But I'm right you're gonna probably have to give him a 60 million fully guaranteed Hey, it is this two-year man. We got to do something We got to do something we got a plan of preseason because the last few years we ain't been playing in the free season Exactly, we start off we start off slow Every race kills us bro. The first game of the season last year was is Chase gonna play? Is he gonna, oh shit, he gonna play, he acted. And it moves to the Patriots and that now is a game that called- That would have got y'all in the playoffs. You know what, DJ, we're talking about Trey Hendrickson,

but we saw Pratt, your outstanding linebacker that led him in tackles. Now you lost Hubbard who retired. Uh, uh, uh, uh, Hendrickson is upset because his contract, Pratt said y'all ain't got no money for me. Cause y'all just played Burrows. Y'all play T y'all paid a chase. Y'all ain't got no money for me and y'all need to play Henderson.

Y'all need to let me go. You can't keep losing any good defensive play of TJ and expect you to think you going to win. You can't Shannon, but I hate doing this, man. I hate doing this. No, we was playing and we was players. What? We was players. But if you played on that defense

and you not trade Hendrickson, what you want? What you want? What did you do during the season that says you deserve more money? I want more than $7 million. Then you could have played like you wanted more than $7 million. Damn, TJ. Damn, damn, T. Hey, this is you talking about more than 7 million. Damn, TJ. Damn, damn, T.

After you talk about being on, Joe, look at TJ. TJ cutting them up. I'm saying outside of Trey Hendrickson, who on that defense could literally say I deserve a pay raise? Right. Trey Hendrickson was the only one that showed up each and every game when he was needed. Now, Jermaine Pratt has some games, but he even has some plays where, ah, we needed that play.

Ah, we needed that play. I mean, if you start in any position in the league, we all know this and you get enough opportunity, you're going to make enough plays, but what about the plays you don't make? Right. When I look, go ahead. Go ahead. I would get ready to say, obviously you and I have been playing together since Right. Right. When I look- Hey, we- Go ahead, go ahead.

I would get ready to say, obviously, you and I have been playing together since college and obviously, I've you and I've always said it before, I think Chase is probably to me the greatest banger receiver, you know, whoever done this right. Probably, you think. Chad, stop, stop, bro. Wait, wait, let me finish, let me finish. No, no, no, no, no. That's not true.

That's not true. I have the courtesy of downtown Freddie Brown. Stop, stop, bro. Wait, wait, let me finish, let me finish. No, no, no, no. That's not true, that's not true. I have the courtesy of downtown Freddie Brown. Oh, that man right there with them locs on is. Huh? Like, listen. I've never won a Triple Crown though. Listen, listen.

Because you had me. Listen though. And Chad know this, Shannon. He know what I'm about to say. Man, Chad's supposed to be in the Hall of Fame, man. They fucking this boy this, Shannon. He know what I'm about to say. Man, Chad's supposed to be in the Hall of Fame, man. They fucking this boy over, man. I mean, oh, I put on my own jacket. No, no, no, no, no.

Chad, Chad, you know I'm serious about this because I tell you this all the time. Chad is the greatest receiver of Bingo's history. Now, Jamar Chase is on his way to trying to equal or pass Chad. But where we sit right now, man, Chad is here. It's Chad. It's Chad, it's AJ Green, it's Isaac Curtis. That's what it is to me.

Now, Jamar Chase is on his way to getting there. But come on, Chad, you can't do it to just, you know how I tell you this all the time. Shani, you in the Hall of Fame. Let me give you my Hall of Fame criteria because for some odd reason, I think my criteria is the best and nobody listens to it. Okay.

For a period of five years, where you a top five player at your position, if you got to think about it, you're not a Hall of Famer. I agree. So now you go to 2002, three, four, five, six, seven, eight. That's seven years. Seven of those years, Chad was top three in the league for five of them.

He led the AFC five years in a row. How this man can't even be a finalist. Like that makes no sense. He was leading the AFC in a year. He didn man can't even be a finalist? Like that makes no sense. He was leading the AFC and a year he didn't lead it. I did. I did. So you tell me how he ain't in the hall, how he not even a finalist, but you got dudes that weren't even top five at their position, they didn't in. But I was a villain. The villain, they never letting the villain in. Nah, but. They never, they listen, I understood that.

Why do you think I donned the jacket in the first place? Cause I understood the politics that came behind it. To me. I don't like the, listen, I don't like the business side of football. Remember we talked about that the other day? Yes. I was talking about contracts.

The reason why I played the game like a little kid having fun and entertaining. Now the flip side of things, okay I know how y'all gonna play me. I choose not to conform. I'm playing the game the way I felt it should be played. So regardless of what my numbers would be, T I understand what you're saying. You earned it. You earned it. Yeah but you got to play by their rules. If you don't play by their rules, they not letting you in there. You know how I feel about it. You know I can get to you.

You know what? Now, all the stuff that you was doing, you can do now. You don't even get fined for it. They owe you back pay. They owe you back pay. They don't want you back. Yeah, but here's the thing though, Ocho.

You had no off-field issues. Now, what happened was the thing that's going against you, and you still don't have this, is that they wanted to keep Tio out So bad, they changed it They said anything that you did on the sidelines or in the locker room could be used against you where before they said even off Field activities couldn't be held against the player. That's how bad they wanted to keep Tio from being the first ballot on the payment Yeah, that was criminal that Tio went first. And then they had the nerve not to let him in the first year.

The second year? No, the first year, and I think Tio, even though, and y'all know how I feel about Tio, I said he's the second greatest receiver to me. Some people push back and say it's Randy, but we know, I think, I think you and think T.J. and I are more aligned. I think Jerry's the greatest receiver and it ain't close. That's my prediction. Now T.J., you might say Randy, you might say T.O. But for me, I think those three are the top three receivers as we sit here and discuss it today.

Now Chase and Jettle and somebody down the line might have something to say about, but I sure hope I'm alive when I can see the receiver that Say hey, he right there with Jerry. I want to be allowed to see that receive I think I'll never happen the Jerry Rice was getting a thousand yards him year 20, bro Forty years old got 1200 yards That's that's never gonna happen. We will never see somebody do what Jerry Rice has done. But Jamar Chase, Justin Jefferson, they on their way,

but they gotta make sure that they don't hit any bumps in the road, because Odell Beckle was on his way as well. If he hit those bumps in the road, he could never recover from that. And I just feel like Chad is the best bingo receiver in the history of the team. He knows that, I know that. Now Chase is on his way.

I just, I tell Chad this all the time because he never gonna say nothing about it, man. It's just a crime that he can't be a Hall of Fame finalist when his game on the field, he earned that shit, bro. Bulk to that. And that's one thing about Chad. Like when you talk about work hard, this dude is going to run himself to death. Like, we was in year nine and we was taking all the scout team reps.

Like we were still rookies. Every time. Every time. Every practice. Thursday, Friday, we did all the offensive reps, all the scout team reps. I left the Bengals and went to other teams. Those dudes is like, bro, I'm chilling. I just always have done it.

So people don't realize like Chad work, oh, we similar paths. We both went Juco. We both had like, ain't no way they making it to the league. Oh shit, they made it. And to be successful. I mean, that right there within itself, pat yourself on the back, but yeah, Chad should be in the hall of fame, man.

Any chance I get, I'm gonna say that because I know. I know who the best receivers were. And I'm not gonna put nobody down, but some of these dudes, they not better than him. And them dudes even know they not better than him. I don't look at- You stepped up to help our rookie Jermaine Burton. We saw the struggles, a lot of it played out publicly.

Ocho say he's gonna try to intervene this year. We got two great bingo receivers that's trying to help the younger generation. Like, bro, there's a lot. There's a professional aspect of it, which is what you do. You're an NFL. That means you're a professional. And then there's a pro P.R.O., which is the way you go about handling your business. We need to get you to become a role.

You know, with Jermaine, like I was talking to him a lot during the prior to the season starting, because, you know, he was having problems prior to the season and Mingoes knew that I was close with him. So they were, they was reaching out to me before anything ever became public. Um, certain games, he wasn't even going to be active then. They was, they were letting me know the night before. And so I'm giving Maine a call like brah What's going on?

Well, how you doing? I'm gonna just see if he don't tell me what's going on before I got asking what's going on right then He got all the talent in the world, but at some point I Can't want you to be What you don't want to be. Okay, what I tell my kids, I can't want it more than you want it for yourself. He gonna have to figure that out. I just, I just talked to him today. I just talked to him today. And to me, it ain't about anything physical on the field. He gotta make sure mentally and off the field, he ready to go because the league gonna move on.

He got one more strike. They gonna move on without him. It don't matter who you are, man. It's NFL, this thing gonna keep rolling. What you are without you, you gonna hop on a train and roll with us or you gonna get your ass rolled over and get left behind. Yeah, absolutely.

I hope he figured out man because he's so talented he comes from a background where he can really change his family's fortune and I'm gonna do all I can. Chad know me I'm gonna talk. Yeah. I'm gonna help him as much as I can but ultimately I can't want it more than you want him. Yeah man listen I don't know brother Burton like that. Obviously when I go to the stadium, when I do have my times and chances where I'm at the field, you know, I don't want to be that father figure. I don't want to be that guy because when I was playing and people come in, I wasn't trying to hear that stuff from them.

So I just talk strictly football. When you out here, you're going to pull up to the training. That's what you're going to do. You're going to pull up to the training. Okay. I'm going to bring my cleats too. I don't know if you... Hey.

Hey. I can't tell the T.J. Tell him to let it go T.J. Hey. Hey. What? Hey. Hey man, it's just different, Chad.

Hey. Hey, right now, I lightweight hurt myself thinking I could... Hey man. Hey, your mind say I got this. As soon as you get on that field, boy, your body be like, boy, you better sit your ass right on down. I'm in shape, though. There's a reason why we hung the cleats up on TJ. Hey, we look the park, but I don't know if we are the park. It's that lateral. And I keep trying to tell Ocho yes Ocho could you run straight ahead yes

but that yeah yeah that's that it ain't no it is that that that that that that See Chad might be the only I'll get you man Chad lateral movement was That was out of this world. That's one thing Chad was so quick. Even if he lose quickness, he about what everybody else is now. See? I told you. But here's the thing though, TJ. Even though he might be what because his quickness is because he's so light. See, you and I like to play through contact. We wanted somebody to try to...

Light, I'm 205. We wanted somebody to be up there on your... Yeah. TJ, so we can snatch a pool or there on your T.J. so we can snatch a pool or rip through the ass. Yeah. Him at 185, hit lateral quickness right there. Man, they gonna shove his ass up under the beat. Hey, Shani, you probably giving Chad about five pounds.

Chad probably about 180 right now. Right now, I'm 205. Chad, you a damn lot. Look at this. Hey, Chad. What you talking about? You got a big bicep, you got a big chest, you got big calves. Yeah!

But all your weight is from waist down. That's what a weight is on chow. Hey you know what? I promise to say the horses ain't got no big legs neither you see how they run Fairbred fairbred look at look how scared of the ankle bar now climbs They'll got the big-ass legs that ain't moving nothing. They pull this stuff. Yeah horse in a race horse Look at a TJ who you got cuz we know we got this fight coming up this year Ocho versus James Harrison in MMA.

Yeah, hell, hell. Listen, man. Chad, my dog, bro. What kind of, is it? AT, AT, don't say nothing wrong. What kind of fight is this? Is it just fight? Is it just fight?

MMA, MMA. Chad, don't do the MMA, bro. I love you, dog. Chad. So who's side you on? You not on my side? Chad, listen to what I'm saying, bro. Hold on, hold on. Are you on my side? Chad, listen to what I'm saying, bro.

Hold on. Hold on. Are you on my side or not? I need to see your eyes, bro. Take the locs off. Chad, boxing, I got you. Yeah. MMA, man.

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If he can rest, you do. If he can grab you, you do. He's not going to be able to grab me. He's not going to be able to grab me. I. He's not gonna be able to grab me, T. I'm finna play with him, T. Listen to me. I'm finna toy with him. I'm finna toy with him in the octagon.

Listen, I'ma hit him at will when I want to, T. I'm finna be jabbing and jabbing and jabbing and jabbing him, T. Hey, I'm finna bounce around. I'ma move around, T. Hey, watch out, yo. Watch out. And listen, I'ma tell you, let me listen to you. I got you. If there's anything in that, I can't do it.

Let me tell you. Let me tell you. You need to have faith in my muscle seed. I'm going to tell you, I'm going to do it. I'm going to choke him out with a guillotine, and I'm going to run straight to you and jump in your arms. Amen. This is the old pride fight.

No weight class. This pride fight. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Back in the day. Back back in the day back in the 60s now the boxing thing You because he got all that muscle. He's gonna be tired fast It was just I what you think what you think gonna be an octagon because he's gonna shoot and take you down He can't shoot you you you you can't shoot up for them. I'm gonna keep my I'm gonna keep my distance I get closer throw a punch.

Yes! So how you get that punch on Joe? Easy. What you mean? I'm a gazelle punching. Hey. Hey man, I just hope James Harrison, man. James, if you watching, have mercy on my boy, man. Hey James, if you watching, you on my boy, man. Hey James if you watching I'm a put you got a punchable face See TJ what you done started What what what um, what month is the fight

Whatever month you wanted to be I was hoping somewhere around August and September I thought we're doing a Super Bowl you wanted also you wanted to be a Super Bowl in San Francisco next year Yeah, so I saw so all the former current players could be there to see him get his ass whooped. Well, what about our show? He said you ain't gonna be able to do it. That's what he said. Yes, that'd be perfect too. We had a fight before the show. Not the same day, I'm saying like a few days before. Oh Lord have mercy. You gotta remember Super Bowl is a seven seven day seven day event seven day no

So we can we can schedule it. Oh I bet you ain't heard from him cuz I told him to say send the contract So we have so we'll have a fight that Friday night. We'll do our show that Thursday night bingo Man yeah, they just came off back in the 40s and 50s, man. Just pay him off. Pay him to take a dive like Harlem Night. Pay him to take a dive, man. Hey, listen, I'm not doing it. I got too much pride, T. Listen, I gotta show the world we gotta learn to stand up the bullies.

We gotta learn to stand up the people that's bigger than us and stop looking at people that have size and strength and allowing that to intimidate us. Oh, you know I ain't scared if it's boxing. So remember the story of David and Goliath, right? Same thing. That's what it's gonna be. All right, I'm with you.

It's gonna play out in real life. That's all I got to say All right. I'm with you. It's gonna play. It's gonna play out in real life That's all I got to say, you know, I'm with you. I just I'm advising you make sure it's just hands only just these just AT I got it. I got I got the quickest feet in the world. You know, they used to call me Luke came back in high school Mortal Kombat Luke came That man get his hands on you on show? Hey, that's the same thing as to say on Sundays. If they get their hands on me, and only one person was able to do it.

Who that? Rivas? You just got, you know, you was, see when Rivas did that, you was one foot in, one foot out. You went all the way in. You went all the way in. Yeah. Well, I sure hope he all the way in, one foot out. You went all the way in. You went all the way in.

Well I sure hope he won't be all the way in when he fight James. Oh I did. Or he'll be on both feet out. Hey, I've been working on my wrestling techniques too. Oh no, see what you said, TJ. This man talking about he gonna wrestle. Hey man.

No, I'm talking about in the third round, he gonna be tired. You ain't gonna get to the third round. You better go get with one of them Gracies and get on some jujitsu. Yeah. So that when he grabs you, you can go to him. Wait a minute. Wait a minute.

Hold on. I'm a black belt, TJ. What you talking about? Chad. No, that's Hermes. That ain't no jujitsu belt. Hey, you better go get with one of them Gracies. Somebody teach you some jujitsu. When he grabs you, you got him that that's your best

Yeah John Jones to teach you you go to New Mexico Albuquerque, New Mexico. That's what John that's what uh, He trained out of go to Mexico for like a month Yeah, I'm ready man. Yeah, the fact that y'all don't believe me that that kind of hurt man Chad that man a wrestling that's all the big dudes do that's all they gonna do. Hey a Wrestling fighting I don't may don't matter with anything combat sports He's going to be tired in 20 seconds because the first thing you gonna do is ah Done gassed, okay. Hey, it don't take much energy to grab somebody that can't get away.

You do realize that man played in the NFL, so he did. He rushed the quarterback. You know, when they was going on no-huddle, he was still rushing the quarterback. Okay? I'm just... Alright. I just let you know. I tell you what, I done enough talking tonight. I can show you better than I can tell you. Okay. Alright. TJ Bad, thanks for joining us, man. We gotta get you to come back on on the reg, bro. Man, y'all gotta holla at your boy.

Hey, Boost Mobile, man, let me get that shirt, man. I see they both got the Boost Mobile in the background. Come on. Appreciate that. All the best, TJ. Take care, man. Thanks for joining us tonight. I'll be sure.

Yo. TJ Hussmanzada, former Bingo great. Ocho's teammate in college and in the NFL. Ocho now LeBron James went on the Pat McAfee show today nearly three weeks after confronting Steven A out of basketball game. Yeah, LeBron broke his silence on the incidents referring to the fallout as a Taylor Swift tour run for Steven A. The beat started Excuse me over comments Steven A made regarding Bronnie. I initially wasn't gonna say anything Taylor run Swift tour run for Stephen A. The beat started, excuse me, over comments Stephen A made regarding Bronnie. I initially wasn't gonna say anything,

I wasn't gonna talk about it. We didn't talk about it. Y'all didn't hear anything from me for about the SES for three weeks ago, but now LeBron has went on P-MAT and we have to talk about it now. LeBron said he hasn't been too happy with how Stephen A has reacted to the situation.

He's on a Taylor Run Swift tour right now. It started off with, I didn't want to address it, but since the video came out, I feel, this is LeBron talking, I need to address it. He completely missed the whole point. The whole point never would allow people to talk, not allow people to talk about a sport and criticize players about what they do. This is your job to criticize or to position where there's a guy's not performing, you know, that's all a part of the game.

But when you take it and you get personal with it, it's not my job to not only protect my damn household, but protect the players. He's going to be smiling ear to ear when it comes out talking about it. Because I know he's going to be happy as hell. Me. I'm with Steven Avery, just left it alone. Once he addressed it, once it happened. The first time. Address it. This is what happened. He came over to me, said what he said. I want to address it now and I'm gonna be done with it. This is what happened. He came over to me, said what he said. I wanna address it now and I'm gonna be done with it.

Because as my grandma used to say, boy, stirring up old-ish, it still smells. So every time Stephen A. talks about it, it stirs it up again. And look, I see both sides of the equation. Yeah. But Steven, they just need to let it go. He needs to let it go. And now you're like, well, if he'd hit him, I don't think LeBron was coming to hit you. LeBron was coming to tell you, bro, just stop talking about my son.

He said, because you said, oh, as a father, now you make it personal. You're making it personal because now you're making it seems, and this is how LeBron, I think, took it. You're making it seem that I'm not a good father, that I'm not putting myself and putting my son in the position to be successful. And so you're pushing this. And so LeBron took it a certain way. And am I surprised LeBron responded the way he did so publicly?

Because LeBron is a very private person. He might have an issue with someone and you will never know it. You'll never know it, yeah. You will never know it. And so for him to do that at a game, and it wasn't after the game, it wasn't before the game, it was the third quarter during the timeout, lets you know how upset how upset he was at Stephen A and what Stephen A had been saying. But at this point in time, I understand LeBron. They asked LeBron about this. But if I'm Stephen A.

Hey, guys, I've already addressed that. He said what he said. I understood his point. I said what I said. Now it's time to move on. I'm look, it's not going to stop me from talking about LeBron James, the basketball player on the court, but the incident, I feel that we've talked about it at nauseam. I feel we've talked about it enough and now it's time to move on. That's, that's what I wished even they would do. Well, like he said, I mean, look, I get it. That's LeBron James is the biggest name

in pro North American sport. And when you mention his name, good, bad, or indifferent, people don't want to click and hear what you have to say about him. But the one thing I know about this guy, and I know him a little bit, I don't know him as well as a lot of people do. That man loves his family.

He gonna protect his family now. Always, always. And I think when you think about it and you go back to the way things happen with LeBron actually addressing Stephen A. Courtside is well, what Stephen A. said obviously was said publicly on a public forum, on TV. So he addressed it the same exact same way publicly.

Courtside in the middle of a game. Yes. Yes. Now as as a father, you know, and like Stephen A said, he understood what LeBron was coming from knowing Stephen A. I think in the individual that he is, LeBron said what he had to say today. I'm sure Stephen A is going to respond to that. Because you need to think about it. Anytime anyone says anything to or about Stephen A, he's going to have an answer to whatever is being said. That's just him. And it's always been him.

I know you would like him to leave it alone, but I don't think that's that. That's not how this is going to go. The only thing I would have said with Stephen A, look, I know people are going to are gonna like man LeBron should have stole on you LeBron should have did this man They just talking Stephen and me you say me you buy I'm about to be 57 you about to be 58 That eating that eating your ammo Right, you know find nobody I don't know Brian wasn't no swing on you and you were those in He was LeBron one little swing on you. So there would have been no need for you to swing on him.

I'm glad you guys stood there and y'all talk. Look, he said what he said. You seem to be receptive at the time of it. You are assuming that you said you understood because he was speaking to you as a father and not LeBron James, the basketball player. And seemingly you said you understood that. Let it go now. Let it go now. I mean, I had issues.

I remember I had a conversation with Kevin Durant when he first got traded to Phoenix. Uh huh. And I walked into the hotel. I was like, damn, that's KG. And he said, oh, let me holler at you right quick. I said, what's up? Okay. You know, I'm like, damn, I ain't get no dab, no dab, what what? He said, let me holler at you right quick. I said, what's up? Okay. You know, I'm like, damn. I ain't get no dab, no dab, what what? He said, let me holler at you right quick.

I said, what's up, bro? He said, man, what's the deal? You got beef with me, you don't like me or something? I said, man, why you say that? He said, man, the way you talk. I said, KD, bro, I'm passionate. I say, any topic that we discuss on that show, I'm very, very passionate.

I've spent a lot of time researching it and I'm very, very passionate. I've spent a lot of time researching it and I'm very, very careful to what I say. I say, Katie, it ain't about no like or dislike. I say, I don't know you personally. All I talk about is what you do on the court. That's it. Whatever you may or may not do off the court,

I don't give a damn. Right. I said, you can ask your mom. I've had, I've talked to your mom at nauseam. Uh, she used to come on the show. I've seen that event. I said, Katie, I didn't know like or dislike. I said, I'm just passionate about topic, bro.

I said, I ain't got no, I don't dislike anybody. Cause I don't know anybody to dislike them. It's not like, like me and Oak, when, when, uh, I used to hang out with Oak. Oak used to work out. oh, oh Used to work out Charles Oakley used to run on the track with us So I used to come to the gym and work out with me. Oh, can I used to go out to Houston's? That's if that was his favorite restaurant the n-word always got the cheese toast Me and old had it have a relationship. I'm gonna fall in the car

Oh, I say I don't know any of these current players like that. Right. I say, but I'm just passionate about topics. I say, bro, I ain't no like or dislike. I say, but if I probably didn't like you, you know it. Right. He said, all right. He said, man, I just, he said, I just, you know, I said, cool, bro. I said, I ain't got no problem with you. I said, anytime. Hey, he said, hey, here, give me your phone.

We exchanged numbers. Left it at that. He saw I was in the game the other last year or a couple of years ago, I took my daughter to the first. Well, it might have been this now two years ago. But anyway, yeah, had to talk to a talk to him on the bench. You laugh and talk. I got no problem with nobody on Joe. And I'm not trying to go for bad or nothing like that. Good night, but they high hell

And guys, I think when guys see me, they know I ain't all about that man. I'm just I'm just cool I just want to buy have a good old time. But I like I said, I Appreciate instead of him like, you know, Brie on Twitter and the internet trying to blow it up. Hey, somebody got a problem with me? Hey, come to me. Right. Just come to me. I ain't got no problem. I talk to anybody. Anybody, anywhere, about anything.

You got a problem with what I said? Oh, oh, oh, oh, why you say that? Sean, why you say that? Right. This is why I said that. Go ahead. Right. You know what I do like though? I'm not sure how the people, I'm not sure how the people in the chat feel,

but I enjoy when you talk about Kevin Durant, players of that magnitude, elite players. I mean, obviously we talk about one of the greatest scorers of all time. I love the way Kevin Durant uses social media. I love the way he's so accessible to the people to be the star that he is. Will LeBron win and allow himself to be vulnerable?

What LeBron did today, I've never seen LeBron do before. What he did on the Pat McAfee show, sitting there for an hour straight and actually just being vulnerable, talking about everything, I really, really enjoyed that because there's some from LeBron that we've never, that obviously I've never seen before. And I really, really enjoyed that.

And I wish more superstar elite athletes would do that. Be a little bit more open, be a little bit more accessible. And I mean, it would be just enjoyable. It was enjoyable to see him outside that normal setting of not being, not being viewed as the king, if that makes sense. Well, most of the great players are gonna be guarded because they're gonna only gonna give you so much.

They're gonna only allow you to see so much of what they want you to see. If you look at all the great players, they've always been very, very guarded. They're not gonna totally let you inside, especially while they're a current player. The Volume. let you inside, especially while they're a current player. My name is Brendan Patrick Hughes, host of Divine Intervention. This is a story about radical nuns in combat boots and wild haired priests trading blows

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