Club Shay Shay - Nightcap - Hour 1: LeBron loves cookies, KD expected to be traded, Zion losing weight

Episode Date: March 1, 2025

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson recap the top NBA stories of the week. Topics include Dwayne Wade saying he knew when Lebron James was leaving the Miami Heat, after Pat Riley t...ook his cookies… Later, Unc and Ocho discuss the potential for Phoenix Suns’ Kevin Durant to be on the trading block this offseason, New Orleans Pelicans’ Zion Williamson is the lightest weight he’s been since being drafted in 2019 and much more!03:51 - Did LeBron leave Miami over some cookies?10:30 - Kevin Durant expected to be traded17:47 - Why the Mavs moved on from Luka30:18 - Luka’s triple-double against the Mavs32:37 - Wemby’s jersey sells for $73,00037:00 - Zion Williamson losing weight(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:04:43 or your nearest Boost Mobile store location to learn more. Boost Mobile Network together with our roaming partners covers 99% of the U.S. population. 5G speed not available in all areas. D-Wade, uh, Ocho, D-Wade says the first moment he thought LeBron might leave Miami is when Pat Riley took his cookies. See Pat Riley Riley's trying to show I run the show. That's too much. That's way too much. You're doing too much. You don't You don't want to. You mean to tell me you trying to prove a point so you take the man cookies? Hey, you never bother a person's flow, in which way they travel, a routine in which
Starting point is 00:05:30 they like to eat, in which they like to prepare. You never do that. That has nothing to do with the game of basketball. I understand trying to set a precedent. I understand control, you know, but over abusing your power. Cookies, Ocho. Come on now. You took the band, Cookies.
Starting point is 00:05:49 So, hey, I have a question. Do you think that might have been the last straw? Yes. Because look, there are some things that LeBron wanted, like Maverick and Randy potentially traveling on the plane, having access like that he had in Cleveland, so forth and so on. We know Pat Riley limited that if he didn't mix it all together. Okay, fine. Probably, but here's the thing.
Starting point is 00:06:16 You knew that when he came in there. Because LeBron's gonna lay out what he expects. When he went to the Lakers, he told Magic, Randy blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, Bobbito Plain gonna travel, da, da, da, da, da, da, Rich Paul, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, Mary, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, okay, do you want, do,
Starting point is 00:06:36 I'm sure when Tom Brady went to Tampa, Yeah. I need Alex, my guy, to be here, Yeah. I need him to have him be able to set up so forth and so on. Okay, you knew that. You knew that.
Starting point is 00:06:49 You get the man there. It's almost like a recruiting visit. Oh yeah, you gonna start, you gonna start once I get your ass on campus. You gonna sign that letter of intent. I do what the hell I want to do. Now you can't do that anymore because them guys jump in the portal on your ass. Oh, excuse me. They jump in the portal on your tail, Ocho.
Starting point is 00:07:04 And then you in trouble. But I don't get this. Pat Riley, I mean, there are some things that he said about, he was telling Phil Jackson and Phil Jackson, he got up like LeBron wanted to stay and then like for Thanksgiving, blah, blah, blah. And I just, but I can see now. I can see now.
Starting point is 00:07:25 To do that, that's petty. That's you trying to show I run the show. I mean, see, and that's unnecessary because think about LeBron staying a few extra years in Miami. How many more rings do they get? But you sacrifice that because you wanna prove a point in showing that you're in a position of power.
Starting point is 00:07:46 Now look at you. And you want to over abuse it. And even now, the stuff with Jimmy Butler. Yep. I'm not saying Jimmy's right. I'm not saying Pat is wrong because internally I'm not there. But there's always an issue where there's a power struggle. It shouldn't be a power struggle.
Starting point is 00:08:04 If you want to do one thing, everybody, the it shouldn't be a power struggle. You'd be wanting to do one thing. Everybody, the main thing should be the main thing. If you're part of the Miami Heat, Pat Riley's main goal should want to be winning championships and having the best team and the best product on the court to do so. If cookies were the issue, do you know how many cookies would be on that damn plane? Oh, I got you. Yeah. Do you know? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:28 What, where do you want the cookies from? Are these gourmet cookies? That we need to go to a special shop? Right. Or these regular chips ahoy or some type of chocolate chip that we can buy from a local grocery store? Right. I just need to know LeBron what it is.
Starting point is 00:08:44 Because I promise you, there is not a superstar player in any sport Let me ask you a question if shall we Tony shows up and says he wants something special They're gonna have if he says there's a Japanese cuisine that I need to have before every game And I need to make sure when we travel I have it. I guarantee you they're gonna have absolutely And I need to make sure when we travel, I have it. I guarantee you they're going to have it. Absolutely. If Patrick Mahomes, Joe Burrow, if whatever superstar player, if Shay goes to OKC, I don't know what the delicacy is in Oklahoma.
Starting point is 00:09:15 I've only been there once. Yeah. But I guarantee you, if Shay says, I want this on the plane, we're going to have that. I mean, little old me, I say, Mike, we want to watch the fight. Mike would have it. Mike, we won't need this on the plane. We're gonna have that. I mean little old me, I said Mike we want to watch the fight. Mike would have it. Mike we won't need this on the plane. Mike would get it. You mean to tell me you took LeBron James cookies? For what? Right. If LeBron's overweight, I said hey bro you need to cut back on these. Right. When has LeBron James not been in shape? We marvel at his body in year 22.
Starting point is 00:09:49 Pause. We've done that since he was getting to the league as an 18 year old rookie. Yeah, yeah, yeah. There's not a time that LeBron has not been in shape. Right. But like you said, this was a power trip. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:02 But- You won the battle, you lost the war, Pat. That's not... That's unfortunate. That's unfortunate. Now we don't even have a chance to come out east. I think we... Matter of fact, we still coming out east. Go ahead.
Starting point is 00:10:15 No, you're not. Y'all can't beat Boston. Y'all can't beat Cleveland. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Y'all can't beat the Knicks. What? We can't what? Beat Boston, Cleveland, or the Knicks. What? We can't what? Beat Boston, Cleveland, or the Knicks. Not in the seven game series. Y'all might win a game, but y'all didn't win a
Starting point is 00:10:31 seven game. Y'all not winning four games. I know. I just want to get excited. I just want to get excited. I know. We need two more pieces. And you heard how D Wade explains it. D Wade said he knew he was upset So that man pushed back from the table and he didn't play cards no more. Yeah. Yeah As mess don't don't mess up a routine. Don't mess up a routine that I'm probably think about how long he LeBron been doing that routine of having those cookies on that flight Yes Yes, man, let me get a better you and I've heard this is not DWade is not the first person
Starting point is 00:11:13 that I've heard LeBron crazy about chocolate chip cookies. Right. And to do that, I thought that was petty. I think it was unnecessary, but I think it was Pat Riley trying to prove a point that I run this show, and if I don't want no cookies on this plane, ain't gonna be no damn cookies on this plane Unnecessary. LeBron says you know what you right? This your ish. Yeah, I take my show on the road
Starting point is 00:11:33 Kevin and Rand is expected to be traded this offseason bill report The Mavericks have shown interest in pairing him and Kyrie and AD. What's KD's best landing spot Ocho? Hold on. Hold on. This gonna be funny Let me see if he answer I'm trying to figure out who got the assets He'll he probably play it now they played last night What in Dallas man if they could play him, if they pair him with Kyrie and AD? Damn. He answer. Yes! He probably saw my name and he answer on purpose. Man, he probably watching the show. Listen, do you think, what's the chances? Let's say if Kevin Durant is able to go to Dallas with Kyrie. What do you think their chances are at winning a chip?
Starting point is 00:12:36 You sure? A great chance. So that's the one piece of the puzzle that's missing. A great chance. I'm positive. Oh shit, I'm... You play a KD with... You play a KD with AD and Kyrie?
Starting point is 00:12:54 I'm somebody... How the hell is that a two-headed monster? Man, that's a three-headed monster, man. I just thought about that. Hold on, hold on. Stay with me now. Why not go over there in L.A. Yes! With Luke in LA? Yes!
Starting point is 00:13:05 With Luke and Braun. Yes! I don't think he wants to pair with Braun. I think he wants to compete against Braun. I think a lot of people are surprised that he played with Steph Normally historically transcending great players don't go pair it with other ones. Okay. Okay. Okay, but And plus the Lakers though Lakers don't have anything to give up. They don't have any job compensation
Starting point is 00:13:38 Now had they saved those that compensation what they gave up for us to get Russ and gave up all those assets, they would have had some assets and who knows. But I think in order for them, in order for the Phoenix, they gave up a lot to get KD. They gave a lot of picks. They're going to try to claw some of that thing back. I think Book is the only untouchable. He was drafted there. They traded. Bradley Beale is going to have to waive his no trade if he if he's going to go somewhere. We'll see how that pans out. But KD is the piece that they get that can they can extract the most draft capital and play it all.
Starting point is 00:14:20 Because I don't think Book, I don't think they're moving Book. I mean, I mean, I met the son's owner, Matt Ishba. I went to the WNBA All-Star game and had an opportunity to meet with him and talk to him. And he was great. Yeah. But I know he wants to win. He's been that kind of money, Ocho. I'm trying to win.
Starting point is 00:14:40 I ain't trying to win. I'm trying to win yesterday. Damn tomorrow. Yesterday. So, and KD gave me, he said, look, I cost a lot, you know, to come in there. I ain't trying to win. I'm trying to win yesterday. Damn tomorrow. Yesterday. So, and KD gave me, he said, look, I cost a lot, you know, to come in there in the middle of the season, not have any, you know, time to work. But I think KD wants to win a championship
Starting point is 00:15:00 and he's going two places, right? Yeah. Two places and it hadn't worked out well. I really thought that stop in Brooklyn was not a success. Phoenix is not a success. I thought that boy was going to be here. They, individual interresting had the situation. Well, you know, he got, first of all, when he got there, he was hurt. So he didn't play the first year Ocho and then Kyrie got nicked. So Kyrie didn't play. So they're playing good
Starting point is 00:15:28 You know them and hardened and you know hardened like tweak his hamstring Kyrie steps on somebody's ankle and That's the second year and they got beat in the Divisional round the semi-finals The next year, you know, with that COVID issue, and it just Harden gets traded. They move on from Kyrie. Katie's like, right, y'all have to leave me here by myself. I see where y'all going. Let me go elsewhere. Boom, boom. And he ends up in Phoenix. James Harden goes to Philly. Now he's in the Clippers. Kyrie gets traded to Dallas.
Starting point is 00:16:12 Kyrie wanted to go to, go to LA, but they would take that Kyrie and it was not going to trade him where he wanted to go. He lands in a good spot with Luca in Dallas. And the rest is as they say, history, but Kevin and rant with the Dallas Mavericks with AD and Kyrie. Oh yeah. That's championship day. Yeah. They're going to be first to second favorites to win the championship. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:37 Yeah, for sure. They got a guy that can command the backend. Now it all depends on how much they got to give up. But even if you got to give up, I mean, they're going to probably want all your picks for the foreseeable future, which you don't care about because you feel you're going to be picking way down. So it's not going to be in the lottery. Right.
Starting point is 00:16:59 So they're going to want a bunch of unprotected picks. They're going to want picks. They're going to make it happen. They're going to make it happen. The fact that it's coming out, you know, this early and now you got to have that on your mind and, you know, obviously block it out and finish the season, you know, the right way. That's crazy how that happens.
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Starting point is 00:20:53 Makes no sense. The people who witnessed Luca's last days in Dallas do not paint a flattering portrait of the 25 year old's professionalism. They call him lazy. They talk about the weight issues that with such frequent frustration within those walls. They mentioned the social habits that athletic has reported on such as taste for beer and hookah which have been a point of concern for NBA type since he was 19 year old star for the Real Madrid who was entering the NBA draft. They predict his basketball demise
Starting point is 00:21:23 highlighting health history that is some will will likely lead to was entering the NBA draft. They predict his basketball demise, highlighting healthy, uh, health history that is some will will likely lead to catastrophic, catastrophic catastrophe in the next five years or so. Damn. Damn. Look, he, uh, I mean, he can't, he's 19 years old. He's been a professional since he was like 16. He's been playing. Look, I, I mean, he can't he's 19 years old. He's been a professional since he was like 16. He's been playing look I've been it seems to be the thing now is going to the hookah bar and the hookah lounge or whatever the case is And you smoke hookah and have a good time um, he like well clearly you remember last year he had a beer and uh, Finley Michael Finley
Starting point is 00:22:01 Took it out of his hand I don't I don't know what's true. I think maybe I think two things can be true. I think they were scared to pay him $345 million. I also think they was concerned about his professionalism and the way he conducted himself not only off the court, but on the court as well. Go ahead. Wait, on the court, can that Luca, they got tired of all the argued, all the moping, the pouting and things of that nature with the court. Can that, Luca on the court? They got tired of all the arguing, all the moping, the
Starting point is 00:22:25 pouting and things of that nature. With the refs? Yes. Okay, listen, that's, to me, I would think, Luca reminds me of a great player I played with arguing with the refs when he felt he deserved the call. He didn't get a call. He goes back and forth with the refs. TJ Housmazada. He reminds me of TJ and most of the time, nine times out of ten, TJ was right, especially when he went back and we watched him. Now when I look at Luca, all I can see, Uncle, Luca plays the game a certain way at a very, very high level where he's top three, maybe top five in the NBA right now. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Starting point is 00:23:02 So you mean to tell me as good as Luca is, they don't want to pay him the money they want to pay him because he has an issue with beer and has an issue with smoking hookah. Can I tell you what other players might be doing as well that might not display the same behavior but still getting they bag. Yeah. Can we think about you, you, an NFL player, you play, you, you play with linemen, linebackers, they drink, they smoke. But when it comes time to perform in, when it comes time to perform in, what do they do when they show up on Sunday? Don't they do what?
Starting point is 00:23:43 Get the job done. Okay. They get the job done. I think that should be the bottom that that's that should be the bottom line. Now finding reasons why not to pay someone is saying well you smoking hookah and you drinking beer is the reason we don't feel like paying you but the production that you do want as a player for that franchise is showing up. Yeah. Now it's hard for me to even talk about something like this when I don't drink at all. And I don't smoke no hookah.
Starting point is 00:24:09 Now my issue is cigars. So it's hard for me to kind of interject and understand where people will come from. When the main goal for me, the main thing is always the main thing. What are you doing once you touch the field or once you touch the court? That's what I'm paying you for.
Starting point is 00:24:25 Now what you choose to do in your own time, that's on you. Now when it affects your play and your production, now we got a problem. I think the thing is that they felt Luke could be in the leader, he should be a little bit more professional as far as okay, don't smoke. I like I said, this was speculation Ocho and I hate speculating and objecting but
Starting point is 00:24:46 Yes, sir them to get off a player That's 25 years of age. That's a five-time all nba player At this juncture of his career. He has more first team all nba selection than lebron did And he's the quickest to 5 000 points when lebrBron James was the quickest of 1000 all the way through 35,000 40,000 he was a quickie and he's three games ahead of what LeBron was at the at the 5,000 point pace With that being said oh Joe. I think the thing is there's a combination of there's a lot of things that work here Paying him 70 million dollars a year until he's age 30 The habits because guess what? him $70 million a year until he's age 30.
Starting point is 00:25:27 The habits, because guess what? Those habits, as you start to get age, now your body starts to break down and we're on the hook. We see now all of a sudden that three year extension for Joyland beat at 193, it ain't looking too good, is it Ocho? It ain't. So, and that's how you have to end for me. Look, I'm always going to be pro player because I always want them to get Their money because the team making money But as being a business owner myself you understand there's certain things you try to protect yourself against down the road Oh, and so I got people always like pay pay pay. It's easy to say when it's somebody else's money
Starting point is 00:26:04 Imagine when you and when so you feel somebody's trying to say when it's somebody else's money. Imagine when you and when you feel somebody's trying to take advantage of you, I give you like somebody's working and you let me you trying to overcharge me. No, I'm good. But if it was somebody else, maybe you would pay it in this situation. And there might be there's some truth on every side. Maybe Luca. I don't think Luca, everybody ain't going to have the work ethic as LeBron, Kobe and Jordan. Okay. Let's go ahead and clear that out.
Starting point is 00:26:32 There's a lot of people do things a lot of different ways. There's more ways to, to get to the bottom of something. They just go in straight to it. With that being said, I understand. I might not agree with it, but I understand the Mavericks take. We got to pay this guy $70 million a year. Yeah, I got you. I got you.
Starting point is 00:26:53 I understand. I understand. And now, and maybe this is what Luca needed, Ocho. Maybe he, maybe like, because I don't know if Luca realized how good he can be. Because once you start having success, you remember like when you, when you worked that really hard, that first off season and you had that success, you became obsessed with having that level of success. So it was nothing to get Ocho when somebody said, Ocho, come on. Nah, bro. I got to go get this work in this morning.
Starting point is 00:27:26 I got to work on these ladders. I got to work on the cone drills. I got to work on this high hand-eye coordination. I got to get that done. Luke ain't going to never have nobody like LeBron. Ain't going to have nobody like Dwight Howard. He ain't going to have no caps on his shoulder. He going to look like that.
Starting point is 00:27:40 He going to get in shape. He going to look like Jokic. So if y'all think he gonna have caps on his shoulder like LeBron, I mean, and Dwight Howard, that's not what he is. Right. But I do think, I do think now, when you get traded, you get released, it's a wake up call.
Starting point is 00:27:59 Cause you know, you feeling good, Ojo. Yeah. That's why he was so hurt by Ojo. Because think about, this shook the NBA. They said never have a player of this caliber been traded that didn't ask for trade. Kareem asked for trade. Right. The greats asked for trades.
Starting point is 00:28:20 He didn't ask for this. Right. You know, you know, it's funny, you gave me, you gave me your perspective and of being a business owner and not wanting to invest that kind of money in a player. But to me, it's still some type of red flag where I'm really not believing the reason you don't want to invest that type of money based on the accolades that you just ran down with this young bull has been able to do in such a short amount of time.
Starting point is 00:28:45 It got to be more to it than some goddamn beer and hookah. It got to be what they call them lazy. They talk about the weight issue. There was such a first, a frequent frustration within the walls. They mentioned his social habits that they have reported on taste of beer and hookah, which had been a concern for NBA type since he was 19. So he came into the league and you know, you had, but the problem, Ocho, they say they predict his basketball demise, highlighting a health history that, as some see it,
Starting point is 00:29:17 will likely lead to a catastrophe in the next five years or so. Oh My goodness Also, this is what we know. Okay. This is what we know having played the game Those teams see when players think they're doing something and the team doesn't know that's where they run a file at When you got that kind of money You tell me what Dallas Cowboy player is doing something that Jerry doesn't know about You tell me what Dallas Cowboy player is doing something that Jerry doesn't know about. They know everything, huh? Jerry got the police. That's why everything, the little file stuff that they can handle.
Starting point is 00:29:54 NFL teams, they have FBI level security. They know everything. So we're going to tell them, oh, we're going to do our homework. We're going to read a week. You know. Hey, hold on. They need to find you. So about Jerry, we talk about all 30 teams, all 30, all 32 teams in the off season. Right now, wherever you are in the world, they know what you're doing. They know who you hang around. They know you like the goal. They know what you're spending.
Starting point is 00:30:24 They know everything it's different it is and so it's gonna be very interesting to see Ocho because we got some guys coming up Jaren Jackson jr. he's coming up in line yeah he wins defensive play of the year he's eligible for a super max five years three hundred and forty five million We're about to find out. He's not as credential as Luca Wait, how much how much five years 345 which is 69 million a year fully guaranteed Hey, it's too late for me to play you to play who? Oh Joe. You got into that thing a little early Here's the problem. Ohcho, is the problem is, is that let's just say for the sake of argument,
Starting point is 00:31:09 none of this is true. You're selling the man's reputation. You're selling the man's reputation. Now we've seen it, but now, because we've seen him smoking hookah and drinking a beer, they kind of, you know, they kind of dodged the bullet because they got him on camera smoking hookah and drinking a beer, they kind of, you know, they kind of dodged the bullet because they got him on camera smoking hookah and drinking a beer. So it's hard to sue for defamation.
Starting point is 00:31:30 Uh huh. Can I, can I say something? Who don't drink beer, huh? Outside of me. What athlete doesn't, what athlete doesn't drink alcohol outside of me? What athlete doesn't smoke hookah? Outside of me? Hookah weed?
Starting point is 00:31:42 I don't know. I mean, I mean, we, we are, come on now. What are we talking about? I understand now. I understand both sides. I got you, but I'm just saying using that as, and then lazy and social issues and like, what does that have to do with playing?
Starting point is 00:31:59 Again, from the business side of things, I understand. What are you doing for me every year? you tell me all the time on NFL players, every year they got an updated resume. And every year, you update that resume. Luca Damsho, update years. Man. I'm surprised they got to this. A lot of people say they would have just given them the money.
Starting point is 00:32:27 Boy, whew. It's gonna be interesting. I think moving forward, Ocho, we need to pay attention to this because if Luca don't get the super max, who the hell gonna get it? Ja? Anthony Edwards?
Starting point is 00:32:43 Shay? Shay can get, I think Shay can get 290. That ain't that ain't enough. I think I think you can get I think you can get 290 or a five for 290 I think. That ain't enough. Right at right at 60 a year. Uh, I have to check my math. I know Jaren Jackson is in line for that. Jaren Jackson Jr. His father is senior. So it's going to be very interesting to see coming down the pipe. I don't know how much of the game that you watch, but I can tell Luca was a little nervous.
Starting point is 00:33:21 Obviously, he wanted to have a big game. And that's what you want to do when When you play your former team, Ocho, you don't need to prove them wrong. You need to prove you right. Cause you know what you can do. And Luca with the exception of a game, what the game against the Nuggets, he's kind of struggled with his shot.
Starting point is 00:33:36 It's going to take him a while to get his legs, to get in the field of thing. He's learning the new offense, learning obviously never played with a guy like LeBron, but this is going to prolong LeBron's career. I can see LeBron playing another two, three seasons after getting Luca, but watching Luca last night, he's special. Everybody knows it. He can pass out of the double team. You see, they did a great job.
Starting point is 00:33:57 They tried to, uh, he got going early and then they trapped him, doubled him, blitzed him, want to get the ball out of his hands. And he made the right plays more times than not. But LeBron came to the rescue in the fourth quarter with 16 points, 16 huge points, made every right play, and it was a good win for the Lakers. Don't take too much solace because they were playing without Anthony Davis, playing without Lively,
Starting point is 00:34:20 and they was also playing without Daniel Gafferty. But I like the Mavericks. I think the Mavericks, once they get Luca, excuse me, once they get AD back healthy with Kyrie and the way Kyrie can play off the pick and roll, the way AD can play in the pick and roll mid range, all three, some score at all three levels, I think the Mavericks got, got, uh, got, got a good team. But, uh, I was really impressed with the Lakers and how they were able to finish this game off, even though the Amaz was underhanded.
Starting point is 00:34:45 Underman. No. Ocho, let that go. I'm focused. We done moved on with that. Hey listen, I'm locked in. I'm locked in. I see it.
Starting point is 00:34:53 I'm locked in. I see it. Listen, I'm thinking about the ball. In your head. I'm thinking about it. I can't let nobody trick me out my spot. Yeah. Hey, hey, can I tell you something?
Starting point is 00:35:01 You know, I heard somebody talk about, like, if a, if a. You're not going to get your game on the court. You're not going to get your game on the court. You're not going to get your game on the court. You're not going to get your game on the court. You're not going to get your game on the court. You're not somebody talk about like if, if, if you're not getting a job, you're hiring them. Oh, you know, I just got a new job. Yeah. Can I tell you? I'm see you on Monday. You got a new one.
Starting point is 00:35:22 Where you working at? Yeah. Thank you. I appreciate that. And my fact, guess what else? Guess what else? I'm going to see you on Tuesday, November 2nd. Oh, Joe.
Starting point is 00:35:38 The Jersey Victor Wimby-Nyama gave a child sales for $73,000. The Jersey Wimby gifted a fan after the December game sold for 73,000 days after the Spurs star season ended. The decision to sell the Jersey so quickly raised the possibility that the child's parents had planned to sell the Jersey all along. Golden declined to go into the specifics of the seller or how long the company had been in discussion
Starting point is 00:36:03 to sell the item. Despite the injury news, his memorabilia market has been impacted by the short term. A rookie card of his sold for $860,100, a record price Saturday night on gold in addition to the jersey. Ocho, you like this? I mean listen, I'm sure it was a fan that like you said before when we talked about this, a fan that was sitting courtside. In order to sit courtside, I'm sure the family, obviously you have to have some kind of good money. You got to have some kind of good money. But obviously, a huge spike in chunk of cash like that, not knowing their financial status,
Starting point is 00:36:42 I'm assuming they felt that was more, more important or more valuable than actually having the Jersey itself. But you know what this does? Not guys are not going to want to get. Yeah. Yeah. You right. Cause I'm going to look up and I'm going to see it on, I'm going to see it on
Starting point is 00:36:57 Google, I'm going to see it on one of these options sites. Right. Cause that's the case. Hell, I keep it myself and sell it. That's what I hate. Look, like you said, I don't know the financial decision to this situation, but it's hard for me to believe that that young man could be sitting courtside and they need they hard up for money. Because like you said, courtside isn't cheap. Yeah, you're right. Wait, wait, wait, it depends on the team now. It depends. Now Lakers' course size seats. That was at the Lakers.
Starting point is 00:37:27 Lakers' course size seats. That's expensive. I don't even want to know the number. Lakers, probably the Knicks. I think the Knicks would probably be expensive also. So San Antonio, what's your team? No, I think that what, what would they add, Ashley? Were they at the Lakers game
Starting point is 00:37:42 or were they in San Antonio? I think they were at the Lakers. Well, hey, listen, Lakers, Lakers court side seats, man. That's a down payment for a car, man. Oh, I could imagine what that those tickets went for a Lucas first home game. Crazy, huh? Can you imagine what those went for? You got let alone the playoffs.
Starting point is 00:38:05 Don't even tell me. Man, please. Oh Joe, 29th, it was a Nets game. Nets, they were at the Nets. Make some noise for the greatest shooter of all time, Steph Curry. We went live for All-Star Weekend for a new podcast called GOAT, Greatest of Their Era, and we ranked our top five shooters from the 2000s.
Starting point is 00:38:33 Paja 5 dirt 4. Paja is a lead. Okay, okay. I'm mad I left him off my list, but I still like my list. You won't believe who Steph left off his list. That's so tough. That's why we have these conversations. Yes, absolutely. I love it.
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Starting point is 00:41:15 It was a moment that should have broken me, but just because of how I was raised and my bullishness and arrogance to want to be great hardened me. It gave me a platform to be so singularly focused on greatness. We all have moments like this. Something happens that's supposed to break us, but it's in these moments that we discover what we're really made of.
Starting point is 00:41:38 I promise you, if anyone knows this, it's me. I'm Ashlyn Harris. Zion Williamson has reportedly made major strides in losing weight in recent months. He's currently weighing 264 pounds, which is the lightest he's weighed since the team drafted him in 2019. He's at 284. How much do you say say weight? 264. Okay that's good weight. Yeah that's good weight. He's listed on at 284 on NBA.com meaning he's dropped significant amount of weight since the start of the season. He signed a five-year 197 million dollar extension that he signed with the New
Starting point is 00:42:21 Orleans in 2020. Comes with a handful of stipulations to protect the team from injury struggles or Failure to maintain his weight one such condition says that Zion must keep his combined weight and body fat percentage below 295 and Guarantee 20% or to guarantee 20% of his salary for the next season So let that sink in, Ocho. So they got weight incentives on his salary? Yeah, they got weight clauses.
Starting point is 00:42:50 You want them bred? Right. Hey, I kinda like that. I kinda like that, because if you have someone that's young, if you have someone that's young and he's struggling, you understand his dynamic and how great he is when he's on the court.
Starting point is 00:43:03 He hasn't been on the court. who has a problem with his weight. We had the problem with injuries because of the way he's carrying, who has bunnies, you know, bunnies is hops on. I'm just trying to make sure you know what it is. Who has bunnies the way he is and having to bounce and pound the way he does. He's better suited at a much smaller weight than what he carries. So I like the clause that they have in this contract
Starting point is 00:43:28 forcing him to stay under. You want this money, young fella? I'm giving you an incentive to keep your weight down to a refuel you can play your best. I like it. I can motivate you by fear. I can motivate you with money. But the only thing that's sustainable is self-motivation Because you'll get so much you'll get enough money
Starting point is 00:43:51 Then it won't move you. Hmm. I can scare you enough and then there's just idle threats at the end of the day if you're not a Self-motivated person. There's no amount of money. Because eventually, you are what you repeatedly do. Therefore, it's not a singular act, it's a habit. All those stuff, there's a reason why. Go look at the greats. Forget the super ultra-witch, but go look at the greats. LeBron James plays like he ain't got a dime. Michael Jordan played like he didn't have a dime. Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, all those greats. LeBron James plays like he ain't got a dime. Michael Jordan played like he didn't have a dime.
Starting point is 00:44:27 Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, all those greats. Ray Lewis, Michael Strahan, Reggie White, all the greats. Because see, it's not the money that's motivating them. It's self that's motivating them. I can feel you. I'm gonna find you, Ocho. If you don't come eventually You become to sensitize to being fine. You become to sensitize that at what at what point? How much money do I need?
Starting point is 00:44:56 Hey, I just hope he gets it so you know what damn it Enough of this. This is embarrassing. I'm a professional athlete and these people got to put clauses in my contract. I'm making 200 million and they got to incentivize it just so I can get it. Let that sink in. Yeah, I'm letting it sink. But listen, I'm trying to be a sponge right here, right? And you said some earlier, now I didn't want to cut you off because you was preaching, but I need you to run that back. Now you say you are what you repeatedly what?
Starting point is 00:45:28 You are what you repeatedly do. Therefore, it's not a singular act. It's a habit. Stay right there. Stay with me now. Cause I'm going to use that on the kids next time they get out of the line. I'm going to use that on kids. I see. Yeah. Matter of fact, I'm going to use that. I'm going to use that on kids. I see. Yeah, matter of fact, I'm gonna use that I'm gonna use that in preaching to my daughter. You know, I'm going to College Station. University of Kentucky is running a college station
Starting point is 00:45:52 down at Texas A&M. So my daughter's running, so I'm gonna talk to her before the track meet. And I'm gonna tell her, I'm gonna start off with that. You always repeatedly do. Okay? Definitely, it's not a singular act. It's a habit. And I need to make sure I know you baby. I know you probably watching so you be ready
Starting point is 00:46:12 You ready to be ready for this speech now? Got me getting on this plane. I need to see I need you to PR something Better bring it home But money the money is gonna come The money is going to come. The money is going to come. You think Michael Jordan thought he was going to. Yeah, if somebody, if somebody would have told Michael Jordan, Michael, this is what you're going to be.
Starting point is 00:46:31 Michael didn't do this because of money. Oh no. Oh no. Oh no. But he played as if he was flat ass broke. Everything that you want, all you have to do is go out there. Look, the fans will appreciate a guy that gives it everything that he has, but that's not supremely talented, but they know that he's giving, he or she is giving it everything
Starting point is 00:46:57 they have. As opposed to somebody they know that's immensely talented, and they look at it like, man, he bulljabbing. All that, to waste a gift, to waste a gift, Ocho, you demean yourself, you cheat yourself. I just, I hope this is the one time in 2025 that Zion, God dang it, enough is enough. Something gotta click on. Let me go on and be what I'm supposed to be.
Starting point is 00:47:32 An all-MBA, a perennial all-star. That's what he should be, a perennial. Not just once and then three years later, another. A perennial all-MBA, a perennial all just once and then three years later another a perennial all-mba a perennial all all-star Every year he has that kind of ability that speaking to speaking of speaking of ability Speaking of what he should have been outside of being a perennial all-star Was he not supposed to be next in line to be the face of the mba? Yes Or am I tripping?
Starting point is 00:48:06 Yeah, he had that LeBron. LeBron had that buzz coming around out of college. You know, Wimby. Now it's Wimby. Right. Is he waiting? No, and people that I know there's only one Michael Jordan, but look at the greats. You think Bird played for money? Look at, just take the greats but look at the greats. You think Bird played for money? Look at, just take the greats.
Starting point is 00:48:26 Just take the greats, attach any name to it. The money's gonna come. Because they look at you and see the NBA players, the NFL players, Shohei, Tani, Mookie, Beth, whatever the case may be. Oh, sure. Yeah, go ahead. It's really simple.
Starting point is 00:48:49 I played like I was broke because any amount of money that I was getting was 15 times what I was making. And you mean to tell her, Ocho, you mean to tell me you're going to pay me money for something I've done for free for 17 years and they make a dime. Now you want to pay me to do it. I'm on that Come on Pop Warner, I ain't gonna die JB ain't gonna die high school ain't gonna die college ain't gonna die now I get to this level and y'all gonna pay me for something I did for free man, and in his speaking of that I
Starting point is 00:49:23 Like the fact that you just mentioned this, right? I like that you said Peewee, you didn't get paid. No! Junior high, you didn't get paid. No. College, you didn't get paid. Well, never mind, that's a whole other story anyway about college, but we're gonna get back to that.
Starting point is 00:49:38 But obviously, make it to the NFL. Obviously, now you're paying me to play a game that I played as a child, having fun and entertaining. You mean to tell me, now I'm going to get to the rules of the NFL and how they like to control the individualism. So now you mean to tell me, when I get to the NFL and I'm playing the game the way I played it all my life, and now I make it to the highest level with the one percenters, now you're telling me how the game should be played now that I've made it. So why would I change?
Starting point is 00:50:07 And this goes back to you as well because you used to get on me too about my style of playing and the way I play the game. Yeah. What's the first thing they take from us? What's the first thing they take from us when they want to keep it flat? Money. Why do they take our money? Because the NFL or any entity and their only way to control the players
Starting point is 00:50:27 or the people that work for them is by taking the money because that's what they think they value most. But like you just said, you just said it, the money can always come, which is why it never changed. I never changed. I ain't played football in 13, 14 years, you know, because of you and some other entities that afford me the opportunity, hell, I'm making more money than I and I ain't caught a touchdown in years. That's how it should be. Come on, man. But these guys, I mean, I don't understand, bro.
Starting point is 00:50:57 I mean, think about the money that you making. These guys making 40, 50, 60, 70 million. That's on the court. Now they're making another 10, 15, 20 off the court. So you're making a hundred million dollars and all you gotta do is say, you know what? I gotta have my way in between this and this. All I gotta do is just play hard. You're not gonna go to school 30 a night, but just play hard. Some guys just can't even give you that consistent effort.
Starting point is 00:51:37 Make some noise for the greatest shooter of all time, Steph Curry. We went live from All-Star Weekend for a new podcast called GOAT Greatest of Their Era. And we ranked our top five shooters from the 2000s. Paysia 5 dirt 4. Paysia is a lead. Okay. You won't believe who Steph left off his list. That's so tough.
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