Club Shay Shay - Nightcap - Hour 1: Lebron scores 50k points, Lamont Roach joins the show, & do KD and Bud have beef?

Episode Date: March 6, 2025

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson react to LeBron scoring 50k points, KD & Bud might have an issue. Also Lamont Roach joins the show to discuss his epic fight against Tank this past Saturday and much more!05:30 - Show start08:30 - Lebron James scores 50,000 points17:40 - Jeanie Buss says Anthony Davis wasn’t happy25:33 - Lamont Roach Jr. joins58:30 - Kevin Durant and Bud incident (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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We've got two guests joining us a little later. Oh Joe. We got Lamont Rose, Jr Yeah, we have a majority draw with Javante tank Davis and Ose Adegazua Mmm, he's gonna join us just sign big contract with the Dallas Cowboys So he's staying for another four years got Got great money up and coming, but first. I got a, hold on, hold on. I got a question. I got a question. Before we get into the show. And you think Lamar Roach, right? You think he'll fight me?

If I asked him, like, before he comes on, I just want to know from you. You mean will he beat you? Yes. Beat who? Hey, do you, you don't have no belief in your co-host? The homie, Maxwell got you. Brian, no, he got a knockdown, there's a difference. That's a part of- He ain't even touchin'.

Lamar gonna put them punches. You see Lamar, how he put them punches together on tank? Imagine you not used to seeing punches, Ocho Yes I am. Yes I am. Yes I am. I've been fighting the past six years. So I'm gonna ask him. I'm gonna ask him. No, no, no, no, no, no. Sparring is different than fighting. It's just like somebody else. It's like when somebody go receiver and they go out there and they're not used to it. That ball gets up on them quick. Right. And hit them all all up side the head that ain't gonna happen to me. That's how them punches hit you all up side your head But you know what when he comes on the show we'll ask him LeBron James became the first player to score 50,000

Career points when you combine regular season and postseason. He has 41,000 871 point in the regular season. He has 8,162 points in the playoffs. Mojo, he also became the oldest player to ever be named conference player of the month. He was named Western Conference Player of the Month. He averaged 29.3 points a game, 10.5 rebounds a game, and seven seven assists and the Lakers went twelve and two

in that span LeBron James fifty thousand career points the most Conference players of the month most What the conference players of the week? Yeah, that's what LeBron James has done Yeah, that's what he's done and he's also done a great thing for me. I know you've been a huge fan. You've been highly respectful of LeBron. Complimentary.

Yeah, complimentary of what he's done throughout his. Complimentary. Yeah, complimentary of what he's done throughout his 22 year career. And listen, I asked a request. I sent a tweet out. 22. This is the power of Twitter. This is how great Twitter is.

I said, listen, LeBron, can I get that 50,000 point ball when you hit that milestone? He didn't respond to me, but he got in touch with Doug. He got in touch with Doug, Doug sent him the address and LeBron sent me the ball. He sent me the ball, right? But hold on, not only did he send me the ball. He signed it?

Huh, yeah, he signed it. Let me finish, let me finish. Not only did he send me the ball, listen, chat. Listen, I'm trying not to get emotional. Shit, I'm trying not to get emotional, right? Because something like this, he sent a note with it and this is what really touched me. This is what really touched me.

Chad, listen to me real quick. This means a lot to me. On the note along with the ball, he said, Ocho, I'm passing my 50K point ball to you. You've been a legend in your own right and your energy, passion, and love for the game has always inspired me. This ball represents

everything I work for and I want you to have it as a token of respect for your grind and the way you've embraced everything you do because nothing is given everything is earned. I appreciate you. I appreciate you bro. Keep being great. Love LeBron. Ron. And he signed it for me. You see? Did I see? You see what he say?

Did he say? Did he say? Did he say? Did he say? He said you put King James. It seems like when he spelled James, he almost forgot how to spell his last name. Oh, that's cause he left handed.

So it might look different. So I'm just trying to figure out how you get all these milestones. You got the 40K ball and you got 50K? Hey, I got both of them. I got, hey LeBron, I know you're gonna see this, boy. Listen, I appreciate you. And I promise I won't get emotional,

but it's hard to hold back tears, man. Especially for you to reach a milestone like this and want to give me the ball Man, that means a lot to me to my family and if at any point in life I doubt it's gonna happen if I'm ever on hard times. This will definitely come in handy. I Love you. You have a hard time you go you go you go give it up. I Ain't gonna have no choice Sure You go you go you go give it up. I ain't gonna have no choice True Hey, like like a like a chick on like a chick on prom night us singing here give it right up you gave it up

Hey, but LeBron a real talk boy, I love you. I appreciate you and um, this is going this is going in the case 50k baby King James, I don't know if people really understand what it's like to be great for that length of time. Yeah man. I mean basically since he set foot in the NBA since he was 18 years old. Yes sir. He's 40 now. Yeah. He's been great. Yeah. He's been great. I mean you can have all the criticism you can want. I mean you can nitpick. You want to say there's a game he should have shot instead of pass or if you want to say where he should have did this Instead of that right, but there's no denying

his greatness For such an extended period of time you can book and you can say oh he was great here He was right there, but you color all in between 18 and 40 and it's colored with greatness Right. He's but if this is remarkable and I'm not sure we'll ever see it again Somebody play at this level. I mean, yeah, there's gonna be players that I mean you could look at Luca Luca can average what LeBron average can get you rebounds and assists But do we believe Lucas gonna be doing this in year 15 year 20? No, probably not. Are we sure somebody else is gonna be able to come along Ocho and play this long?

They might have a stretch a eight year a ten year or even a 15 year stretch, right? But when you extrapolate what he's been able to do for such a long period of time at the level in which he's been able to do it. Man, it's a beautiful thing to watch. Like I said, I got an opportunity to watch Jordan his entire career. I watched Kobe his entire career, but this is remarkable what LeBron has been able to do. Yeah, and that's why I'm getting emotional because it means so much to me, especially for a mouse to achieve a milestone like this and to be willing to give that up, you know,

so I could have it. I mean, I don't really never get, you know, I really get gifts. People really give me, I'm normally, I'm normally the giver, so to get something like this, man, LeBron, I know you're probably watching, and I appreciate you, boy.

Well, you're a real one, boy. I don't care what they say about you. It watching. I appreciate you, bro. You're a real one, bro. I don't care what they say about you. It just goes to show you, can you imagine if LeBron, because Luca is really the only guy that LeBron has truly trusted to have the ball exclusively in his hands. Yes, sir. Now, we go back and say, you know what?

If LeBron had somebody he trusted, and he didn't have to have the rock in his hand, and he can do what he's doing now. Spot up, he can get to the high point, the high pick and roll, or he can, whatever. He can slash, he can cut. You see what he's doing at 40. So imagine LeBron at 25 and 30,

and he has a Luka that he doesn't have to worry about setting him up. He doesn't have to worry about running the offense. Luca can do everything that LeBron does and LeBron gets to focus on just this. What do you think his numbers would have been? So now he doesn't have to worry about facilitating. Now his assist total might be a little lower because he's not gonna have the ball in his hand primarily. That's gonna go to Luca. Right.

But you see scoring and the percentage in which he's shooting. Go back and look at since Luca's arrived, look at his three point field goal percentage, look at his field goal percentage, look at his point total. That's crazy. Everything has increased because you know what? A lot has been taken off of his plate, Ocho. Get his field goal percentage, look at his point total. That's crazy.

Everything has increased because you know what? A lot has been taken off of his plate, Ocho. He doesn't have to worry about facilitating for everybody. He doesn't have to worry about all that other stuff. He can just say, Luca, you have that. Let me get like three runouts a game. Right. Let me get a couple of dives to the baskets.

I hit a couple of threes. Hell, that damn near 20 right there. But it's been unbelievable to watch. Yeah. And like I said, I'm old enough to remember a lot of the great players. I saw magic, never saw them. I saw magic in person once, but most of the time, I mean, to see Bird and Magic and Akeem and all these great players and now the Steph Curry, the KDs, and all that stuff to see these guys play. LeBron, Kobe, Shaq. I don't think we gonna see somebody else get 50,000, Ocho. I really don't.

50,000 right here, champ. And plus, Ocho, here's what we're saying. We're under the assumption, huh? We're under the assumption that he stops playing. Who's to say this thing is not gonna be 52, 53,000? Yeah. He can keep going, especially with Luke at the helm now. You know, Luke could take all the pressure off the bottom.

Oh, he could easily play another two, three. Oh yeah, absolutely. He could easily play another two to three years. Yeah. The question is, he says keeping his mind sharp because he's been so to that routine. And I don't believe Savannah is putting the pressure on like, hey, babe, you need to come home, blah, blah, blah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

He like, no, because you're like, hey, bro, I know what you like when you when you home. He will be moved as hell. So I can see LeBron legitimately, Ocho, I can see him playing another two to three years. And I wouldn't be surprised if that were to happen. But at the level that he's playing at, he's playing at extremely high level. It's great to see. Ocho, Gany Buss says Anthony Davis wasn't happy. We have we we have lost the last three years In a row to the Denver Nuggets in the playoffs and we really didn't have anything that was going to look different going into the playoffs again Anthony Davis was complaining about where he's being played and he wasn't happy

So I think this was a positive for both teams They got what they were looking for and we got what we were looking for. Ocho, do you believe that was fair for Jeannie to say? I mean, no, I mean, well, kind of, kind of to give him a reason. Remember, you like for people to be honest, you like for people to speak the truth. What you saying? I like for him to be honest. That was very transparent. That is why the that's why the deal was made. Listen, AD wasn't

happy, obviously. He didn't show any type of emotion. He didn't show that any signs of him being unhappy, especially on the court, when I didn't do what he was supposed to do. But if you're not happy and you keep things behind closed doors internally, this is what you get. They give you your wish. Now you got your wish. Just so happened that Luca became available and it worked in the Lakers favor. Okay, you not happy? We gonna do your solid, young bull. We gonna see you over to Dallas and Luca gonna come over here. And both parties are happy. I'm sure he's happy now.

Well, I mean, outside of being injured. Me, and I'm trying to be like, AD wasn't asking you to go get in Joel and be the Cola Jokic. Yes, sir. Just give him an able-bodied person so he can slide to the four. A little big. And then the last five minutes of the game, I'll play the five. Okay. If you look at AD's best years, he had it with Boogie. Boogie was at the five, AD was at the four.

Hey, Boogie was a nice one. If you go back and look at JaVale McGee at the five, Dwight Howard at the five, AD at the four. But when it came down to crunch time, AD sl ad slid to the five a lot of times LeBron was the foreman, but he played the point That was okay But here's the here's the kicker Oh Joe in order for this deal to get consummated ad had to waive is no trade clause Yeah Yeah

Everything she's everything Jeannie Buss said could be true. Yes, sir. But considering the man could have held this thing up and Nico probably takes this deal to somebody else, just keep that behind closed doors. Oh, okay, okay, okay. Well, listen, at this point, this is good. Maybe we get more owners being transparent and being honest and coming out and say, well, this individual wasn't happy

So we granted them exactly what they wanted And ain't nothing wrong with that. It probably what it's hard for me Now it's hard for me to see a scenario Ocho where this wasn't conveyed to them at some point time in the process Yes, I'm gonna come when he was at the pelicans, right? Yes for sure Okay, for sure. Okay. For sure. Because if you go back, if you go back and look at it, they had the JaVale McGee and Dwight Howard. Right. AD's first year there, they won the championship. And you blow that up? I didn't. Why would you not? And I get it. I mean, like I said, I don't think AD was asking for A.

I need a top five center. He just needs somebody that could eat up the minutes. So he doesn't wear himself down. Trying to bang with Yoke. Trying to bang with him B. Trying to bang with those big bodies. Let those guys. Now the last five minutes, I got you.

Don't even worry about it. I got you. The last five, let me at it. Don't even worry about it. I gotcha. The last five, let me at it. I don't really think that's a bad thing to say. Yeah, he said it on several occasions. His last interview, I don't know if it was Dave McMinneman or Shams, but he said, you know, hey, I would like to have a five. I think that's all we missing. Five, let me slide the four. The last five minutes of the game, I got it. I got it. Yeah. Yeah. I just think the thing is for me, me personally, like I said to four, the last five minutes of the game. I got it. I got it. Yeah.

Yeah. I just think the thing is for me, me personally, like I said, hey, everybody's entitled to their opinion, I think, but ADB and his classes, he was, because he couldn't have held it up and said, no, I ain't waiting for my trade clause. I came to LA, I'm going to stay in LA. Yeah. And then now, Luka's maybe somewhere else where the trade doesn't happen. Now you get a bona fide superstar for the next 10 years.

In Luka. So like I said, I just, some situations, Ocho, it is okay, it is okay for you to just sit on the truth. It doesn't hurt anybody. If she keeps this, Ocho, is anybody harmed if she keeps this? Because the way she said it, it makes it seem like, She keeps this, Ocho, is anybody harmed if she keeps this? Because the way she said it, it makes it seem like, well, we were kind of looking to Trade AD because he was starting to complain and it became, started to become an issue.

Right. See what I'm saying? I just think a situation like that, just sit on that information, you know it, and that's how you feel. Got no problem with that, but it's okay if everything is not is not Brought up everything is not mentioned because they do eight eight eight these play well. Yeah, he's been he nicked a couple of times I mean, but and It ain't no harm and losing to you talk about one of the great players

We go it's gonna all see when it's all said and done, we'll see what Nicole Jokic is ranked. But y'all make it seem, who the hell y'all think, I mean, the Lakers put somebody out every year. The Celtics were putting people out every year. Jordan was putting people every year. When it's all said and done, Jokic's going to be up there. He has three MVP's in a four-year span. He's probably going to there. He has three MVP's in a four year span. He's probably gonna finish second this year.

Who's to say he doesn't win another one or another two or win another championship? So losing to Nicola Jokic ain't bad. Right. That's like Toronto said, man, every year, man, we lost to LeBron, really? That's what y'all feel, we, we lost to LeBron. Really? That's what y'all feel bad about? Lose to LeBron every year?

Right. A lot of people lost to LeBron or losing to Steph or losing to one of these other great players over a extended period of time. There is nothing wrong with that. It's Julie Stewart Banks. I'm doing a new podcast from iHeart Podcasts and the National Hockey League. And I'm paired up with one of my favorite players, the always quotable Nate Thompson.

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Joining us, Lamont Rose Jr. Lamont, how you doing, bro? What's up, bro? What's up, man? I'm good, man. Thanks for having me. I feel real good. No, thanks for joining us. Take us through Saturday night. You go into that fight, you move up five pounds,

you're 135, and you move up. And you're feeling, I mean, everybody's that man, they know he got no chance. Tank told you a couple of days earlier, he going, hey, you not going to distance. Y'all shake pretty little with 250 whatever the case may be you go into that fight You know tanks a slow starter builds up as the fight progresses No, he's trying to land hook to the body come up top with it. What was your process? What we going into that fight? How did you want to fight and did the fight turn out the way you thought it would?

well going into that fight, how did you want to fight and did the fight turn out the way you thought it would? Well, honestly, yeah, the fight went exactly how we planned it to go, honestly. You know, we're familiar with them. We've been familiar with them. We just knew it was a matter of time for everything to fall into play. And back to the whole everybody not giving me a shot, saying I'm gonna get knocked out and all this and all that. I know what I'm capable of. I know what I can do.

In the nutshell, they had me totally messed up. Especially when he bet me saying he was gonna stop me. I told him himself, I said, you trippin'. I said, I don't know what got into your head these last couple minutes, few days, whatever the case, you trippin'. You know you're not gonna do that, dude. I don't know why, I told him that, I said, I know you know you're not gonna do that. Cut it out.

Yeah, hey listen, when you talk about you're very familiar with them, and I understand you and your team, you went into the fight with a game plan. Is it familiarity, the fact that you guys probably trained together in the past or you've been in camp together in the past, you sparred together. Is that why you were so familiar in whatever game plan your team did have and were able to execute? Is that why it went so well?

I mean, yeah, it's one of the many reasons why I went so well. Even though we were kids, you know, some of them traits, characteristics, and just ways of a man grew with him. So, you know, some of the dirty tactics, I knew that he would revert to that when that pressure built up. When somebody that was there that wasn't scared of him. When somebody was there that was there to return fire. And you know what I'm saying? He ain't been in the ring.

In his professional career, he hasn't been in the ring with something like that or something like the kind of what I got. Right. So what I thought, obviously, watching the fight, and when I look at all his team fights, most of this happened, obviously he starts slow. And then round five, six, he starts to pick it up a little bit.

And by the time as he's picking it up, normally his opponent is deteriorating. The condition ain't where it's supposed to be. But I'm looking at you, they get to round six and seven and he coming forward and you ain't even, you not even moving. So at that point, y'all mid range, you sit in the pocket and most of the time when he hits somebody they retreat But you get you took one to give one. I'm like what he boys Yeah, I'm like so did the power not affect you in any way where you didn't really care We just sat in the pocket with him in exchange because most of the time I mean you got to be cautious

Oh, you gotta be cautious because when throwing punches, you know, you got to be cautious. You got to be cautious because when throwing punches, you know, you got a chance to get hit, you know, when you're letting go. Did you not care at all, or did you feel his power early and really want to worry about it? So it wasn't that I wasn't, I wasn't caring. I was cautious, like you said, I was cautious, but the defense, the defense is there

and the confidence was through the roof. And I got a chin. You can keep a spade to spade. You know what I'm saying? I see why he knocked people out. I'm not going to say the power was overrated, but I've been in there with guys who can punch. I mean, like, with guys who can punch. So it was nothing new to me. I've been in there with middleweight champions.

I've been in there with junior middleweight champions. I mean, like as they were champion in their prime and stuff like that. So it's like, you know what I'm saying? Like I was confident in what I could do defensively. And if I get hit, I know, I know I was going to give it right back. Right. So listen, in the ninth round, I'm sorry, you know, I, you know, I get excited about boxing. I don't mean to take over. Listen, hey, young boy in the ninth round, I'm sorry, you know, I get excited about boxing. I don't mean to take over. Listen, hey, young boy, in the ninth round, you know,

Javante took a knee. Obviously, there's some controversy behind that. It wasn't ruled a knockdown by the referee. I've never seen that, ever. And in my years of watching boxing and enjoying the sport of combat sports in general, did that moment impact your strategy for the remainder of the fight? I'm gonna say no and let me tell you why. The simple fact that he took the knee is it was really a boost because it's like all right, what we doing is working. We know that yeah yeah yeah he looking for something. It should have been a knockdown one. Yes So that's why I'm yelling at the referee like keep counting like you tripping keep counting

That's a knockdown because he if y'all didn't notice he started to count He started to count he did cut it and then he stopped. Yes. He stopped. Okay, so so when we Resume the action, I'm like, what you doing? Keep counting. Like, you can't do that. Right. So, and then it wasn't even registering

or processing through my mind the other rules to the simple fact that he could have got disqualified for having his corner come up to the ring and assist him during the round. Or, you can't do that. Or he can't turn his back on it, like during the fight. And that's cause for that's the wave at all. He took a knee and then turned around and went to the corner.

A breath or usually turn it turn a stop the fight. Oh, I ain't I ain't I ain't know that. I'm watching you. A lot of times when people hit Tank, like Ocho was saying, they retreat. But it seemed like you had a strategy. Like if he hit me, I'm gonna hit his ass back just as hard as many times as he hit me. And I don't think he expected you to return the kind of fire that you returned. Because you wobbled him a couple of times.

And I'm not so sure that I've seen Tank wobble like when you caught him a couple of times and you was getting through the guard. I mean, hey, normally a southpaw fighter, that lead right is a home run right down, right down Broad Street. And you kept touching him with it. For sure. It was one of the, it was one of the many things that we trained for. Obviously he happy go lucky with his left and, and been working for his whole career. He been knocking these dudes out

So, you know, we've been training we've been sitting on the left Being able to working on countering working on you know being able to block and come back And we had some pretty fast guys and then we had some pretty strong guys that I had to you know Switch rounds with every like, you know, every spawns us. So, you know, uh, switch rounds with every like, you know, every sponsor. So, you know, we was ready, we was prepared. And, um, like you said, them dudes wasn't really, really cracking him back. And I was really throwing that fire at him. And the accuracy was really probably pissed them all too. Yeah.

And the fact that I was busy is like, all right, this ain't stopping. Mm. And I thought you did an unbelievable job of keeping the pace up like Ocho said He's a guy that likes to start slow. So he has some energy reserve. So when he comes out from 5 through 12 He's like I got a lot left. I know I I really spent no gas. I I just been coasting I've been on electric mode now. I got this fire got this gas in the tank I'm gonna unleash but it meant you met fire with fire I mean and I've heard Floyd say that like when he went into a fight

He never watched tape on the guy that he was fighting He left that up to his corner to watch the fight and then tell him instructions He would take all that information and then once he got into the rain blah blah blah Do you watch fight do you when you going against a fighter? Do you watch them or you leave that up to your corner to watch and then give blah, blah. Do you watch fight? When you going against a fighter, do you watch them or you leave that up to your corner to watch and then give you an instruction of what you should do? I don't watch them a lot.

I'm just so, I just so happen to be a boxing fan that the fact that I do watch him fight, you know what I'm saying? Like I really like boxing. He's just somebody to watch. He's a spectacular, knockout artist, skilled guy, like one of the best, one of the better, powerful, powerful fighters. I like watching good fights. So I do know some of his tendencies,

but to study him, not really, I left it up to my dad, but one time, one day, like one day in camp, we did sit down and watch a few of his fights back to back. sit down and watch a few of his fights back to back. Hey listen, Tank has publicly expressed interest obviously in a rematch. I mean you want a rematch as well. Yeah. Are you open to immediate rematch or do you have a, you don't need a tune up, but do you have a tune up fight just to keep yourself going or y'all running right back?

Immediate, immediate. And just to let y'all know like in in my contract immediate rematch was signed. I signed for the immediate rematch when I signed for the first fight just in case he lost or just in case it was a draw. So they put that clause in there. They put a rematch clause in there so I already signed the rematch clause. Okay so when you got a rematch clause how long we taking? How long is the break before you start training again? Is it six months from now? It's up to the A side and when they want to fight

So I'm thinking this will be soon. I'm hoping it's gonna be soon. I say that I mean I'm saying from a boxing standpoint as a boxer what is soon to you? I mean when you say soon to me, I'm thinking a month. I know that's not gonna happen I'm thinking July I'm thinking, I'm thinking a month. I know that's not gonna happen. I'm thinking July. So I'm thinking July. I'm thinking July. I'm thinking July for sure. Okay. But if I'm not mistaken, Lamont, I think I read something that he reached out to Lomachinko's side and see if they were interested.

Hey. Did you read that also? Did you see that? I did see that. But you can't believe everything you see did you read that also did you see that I did see that but you can't you gotta he can't believe everything You see and if it is if it is true, then you know that'd be funny But I'm pretty sure that rematch happens and I'm pretty sure that's the next fight for both of us Well, let me ask you this Interested go ahead. I'm just would you be interested in fighting Lomo or to female low pairs? Or me. Uh oh, hold up, Chad.

Hey, put balls on him, LeBot. Put balls on him. Hey Chad, I don't know if you've seen me fight Saturday, but I really do this. Hey, I was there. I was there. Listen, I've been studying you for years, you hear me? Uh oh, okay.

Listen, I don't have the time, but I can tell you your tendencies right now, round one through seven. Okay. So if we listen. I don't have the time but I could tell you tennessee's right now round one through seven Okay, so we was getting there a spot right now I could tell you what you're gonna do by looking at your feet you when you when you when you got your hand down by your Hip already and you step forward you you gonna faint know it. I know Listen I've been studying you I know you so if you want to spar at any point if you get ready for the next fight You're a southpaw right? I think I've seen you work. You're a southpaw right?

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I got hands. I'm like they call me any cat He ain't got no power though. He got pillars at the end of his line. He ain't got no power Lamont. Oh man. Lamont listen. Throwing up the cake blows. Nah nah nah. Hey Lamont, where I'm from they call me hella hands. Yeah, they call me hella hands. Yeah, they call me Hella Hands. But listen, I reflected on your performance, right?

In that fight, bro, I don't, your game plan was phenomenal. Everything you did, you executed from round one all the way to 12. After you have a fight like that and you pulled on a show like that, what aspects, I mean, like, how do you improve off of that? Because if you would grade your performance that night, you get an A+. So what do you go back and work on after putting on a goddamn show like that?

Man, just going on, see, my thing is, I always wanna get better all the time. No matter if I do have a good performance or not. I just go back and I watch the tape and see what he do. Obviously, if whatever he come with the next one, then we just gotta still capitalize. We're gonna add to what works. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. But we're gonna add to it. We're gonna build. We're gonna build. We're gonna build. Might try to, you know, pick it up so we can see if we can get that star vigil now, you know what I'm saying? You never know. That's how you capitalize.

That's how you capitalize. Yeah, boy, your condition was on point, boy. It was on point. We fight a man. 15 round fight over here, man. For real? Yeah, for sure. I was in catch, man. 13, 14 rounds. Wait, with time or no time? Nah, what time for sure.

What time? Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay. Okay, you know, I did 22 rounds, no clock. Chad, we gonna get you a cap. Maybe you can get me ready for the rematch. Hey, matter of fact, bring me the cap. I ain't even gonna charge you. Okay.

I ain't gonna charge you. I give you four rounds. I let somebody else go four, now I come back for another four. For exchange, no robbery, I like that. All right, back. Man, Lamont, will you put a pause on this man? I got you. Don't beat him up too bad,

because I need him for the nightcap. I said I don't want him to come back and talk about slurring, I don't want him to come back talking like a champ. It gonna be all right, I think it gonna be all right. Don't just give him body blows. Don't hit him on his head here. Just give him body blows. I'm good, I'm good, I think gonna be I don't get body blows Just get body blows. I'm good. I'm good. I'm good. I'm good. My deep and my defense is my offense I ain't gonna get hit. All right, a lot of times when guys win and they get a rematch They like well, I don't have anything to improve upon and they run into a problem Yeah, because you had a draw do you can you back and say, you know what, in this situation

here I should have did this instead of that and I might have been able to land something. Is that how you go back and approach the fight? Because you didn't get the win and so you're like, well, I didn't get the win. I didn't lose technically, but I didn't win either. And I think as a fighter, you know, draws and ties, that ain't what we do it for. We want to be win. We want to be on the top top spot and because you didn't land on the top spot You feel that you know what go back and watch this fight through 12 rounds Maybe if I pick it up through the first three or four rounds Maybe that's a round or two that I win and we don't even have this discussion at the end because it looked like

They gave you round 12 had you not won round 12. He would have wanted to fight Which is sad, honestly, so to me, I thought I wanted to fight clearly. I thought I wanted a close fight. I thought I wanted a very competitive fight. I'm not saying I steamrolled him or whatever, but to me, I think I want to fight. Now granted, ninth round should have been called a knockdown. Two judges on the official scorecards gave him the round, 10-9. If that was a knockdown. Two judges on the official scorecards gave him the round 10-9. If that was a knockdown, I went around 10-8. That's a three point swing. I would win a unanimous decision.

Great. So you got to take all of that into account. There's three ways that, there's three things that could have happened in that ninth round alone with that knee. It could have been a 10-8 round score to that knee. It could have been a 10-8 round scored and knocked down It could have been a disqualification or I could have won by TKO so honestly When you look at that and you say I got a draw against the number one spectacle in America

a pound-for-pound talent and a guy with a 90% knockout ratio Look at it and like okay if you got a draw More than likely you supposed to win that night So even though I didn't get to win. I'm not a more victory guy. I'm pissed that I didn't win honestly right exactly I'm pissed that I didn't win, honestly. Right, exactly. I'm pissed that I didn't win. But I really think that I should have, a lot of people think that I should have. And in the rematch, it's just gonna make it worse for him

because I gotta rev it up. Like you said, I gotta do something. I gotta do something. I gotta pick it up somewhere to turn this around and make it a victory for me. Lamont, you're moving up from super featherweight to lightweight. Were you afraid that moving up might rob you

of some of the power? Cause that's, you know, normally guys that move up, they lose some of the sting. Were you concerned about that? Are you gonna stay, are you gonna stay in super feather? Are you looking to move up? Maybe go 135, 135 140 even higher? No, one thing that 135 gave me is a lot more stingy

Five less pounds I had to lose so So what do you normally walk around at Lamont? Normally, I want to say especially if I'm in the gym. No, no, I walk around like 150 Especially if I'm in the gym? No, no, I walk around like 150. Somewhere around 150, 149 on a good day. If I'm on vacation, I don't get no higher than 55. Okay, okay. So I think that works. I think that's one of the things that helped Floyd Mayweather. Because Floyd is not a naturally big man. So it was easy for him to stay at 147 because Florida was walking around at like 155 to begin with. So he goes for six, eight weeks,

he lose five pounds, that's his sweet spot. Yeah, for sure, for sure. And that's another thing with you, it's not like you're walking around 165, 160, 165, and you gotta strip down 35, 30 pounds. You only having to come down 10, maybe even 15 pounds at a max. So that's a lot, that's not that drastic

where you see these guys have to go through this massive dehydration in order to make weight because man, you keep doing that fluxing weight in your body, man. It takes something out of you, man. It definitely takes a toll on you for sure. Hey listen, after a fight like this, how much time do y'all take off?

Like, before you get back in and gradually just start building yourself back, not only in the shape, but just making sure you don't lose that rhythm and consistency. It's tough man, especially how boxing is today. That's more so like a personal, so me personally, I don't like being out the gym too long. I get, I get cussed out by my, by my doctor, because he tell me to take a break, you know what I'm

saying? Right, right. So, and I understand because your body, you need to heal, rest. I've been through an in-week training camp and then went through a hard 12-round fight. So, you know, you know, gotta get your body together, take some time off, because when you peak, when you peak and you peak at the right time, I think I peaked at the proper time Saturday night, it's, you know, it depletes you. So I get a little rest, I get a little rest probably like two weeks, then I want to be back in the gym. One, because I probably get too heavy and I'm like, I don't feel right. Right, you don't feel right, yeah.

And I be bored, I normally be in the gym. So, that's how it goes. Where you live at? What state? I live in D.C. Okay, okay, I'ma make a little trip down there, man. Whenever you get back in the gym and you wanna start sparring, I'ma come down there.

And I got a little- Man, I don't know, I'm a bad man, Chad. I don't know. I know, I'm gonna come down there. And I got a little, I got a- I don't know, I'm a bad man, Chad. I don't know. I know, I'm a bad man too. That's what my teacher called me when I was in high school. Well listen, I got a little bet for you, right? We gonna do eight rounds, right? We gonna do eight rounds?

Yeah, we gonna do eight, yeah. If you can beat me, at least four rounds. Now, you know LeBron James, he just scored 50,000 points, right? Yeah He said he sent me the ball if you can beat me if you can win more rounds of me I seen you this ball. He gave me to put up. Okay my dad right now We're gonna set that up Right the trophy case

Okay, okay right on top of the bell. Okay, matter of fact, I'm gonna make it easy for you. I'm only using my jab hand on you. Oh man, you giving it away? Nah, I mean, listen, I can take what I'm doing, I'll still win. That's what I do. I told you they called me hella hands. No, no, I'm telling you, you giving the prize away. Braun ain't gonna like that.

Oh, nah, you ain't gonna get that. You think I'm gonna lose you and lose that ball for sure after the tank fight who would you like to fight out the fight after tank are you gonna stay are you gonna go are you gonna stick if you if you go back you rematch you beat tank at 135 are you gonna stay at 135 or slide back down to 130 or go up even to 140 it depends on what's available if the champions at 35 are available I'm gonna fight them I want to unify obviously that's good for my career that's like legacy fights and on top of that they big money fights

money if they not if they not available I would go definitely defend my title at 30 and probably try to unify there because I can make 30 comfortably and um And I feel like I run that division like I probably can even go undisputed if they let me That's a lot of Lamar being a student of the game, I know you heard your dad, you weren't around there, but I know your dad has told you, or whomever in your corner, about the Four Kings.

Hearns, Hagler, Durand, Leonard, and how they fought each other. And all the top contenders in that, they fought them. You go back to the 70s, you look at the heavyweights, they fought Norton, fought Ali, he fought Frazier, he fought Shavers, he fought Ali. Nobody dug, why is it now Lamont that we have guys and they want to cherry pick and don't want to take... it seemed like, and I love Floyd, but Floyd that 50 and 0, because nobody wants to take an ass with it now because now they feel like my legacy is ruined I lost the fight some of the great fighters We don't look at Ali because he lost three or four times even when he looked bad fighting Trevor Burbank of Larry Holmes

We don't hold that against them. We don't hold against Leonard. We don't hold against Hagler. We don't hold against her We don't hold that against him. We don't hold against Leonard. We don't hold against Hagler. We don't hold against Hearns. We don't hold against nobody. I don't know, and I hate that I love Floyd and I'm glad he's undefeated, but everybody thinks now if I be undefeated, I'm going to be revered like Floyd and it's not going to happen. It ain't. It ain't.

Floyd is one of a kind of fighter, man. He is. In a kind of of his own. Even if a lot of people do go undefeated and retire undefeated, it's not going to be the same. And it's not going to be the same because Floyd put it in his work. Floyd fought them guys when he was able to do stuff like that. He fought them guys. And he earned the right to fight who he wanted to, when he wanted to, whatever the case may be. That's just a once-in-a-lifetime fighter.

I don't know why the guys are not... Maybe I do. I'm gonna give you a little scoop. These guys are worried about the money that they can make if they still have an O on their record. They think that a blemish would knock down the value of whatever they have in their contract or whatever they have presented to them, which is, you know, crazy to me. I think if you put on a good enough fight, no matter if you win or lose, the performance is what matters

It's it's it's really what matters So people gonna pay to see you fight if you fight the good fights. That's what that's what you see it Yeah, that's they don't pay to see it That's why people you numbers used to be so high because people are gonna pay they want to see certain fights They want to see them fights. Look at Mickey. Look at Mickey Ward and Arturo Gatti. Ooh. That was jam-packed. Laws didn't matter.

People still pay big money to see that because they know they was gonna get action. For sure. But now Lamont guys like, you know what? Yeah, if I fought Lamont, I can make 15 mil. But if I fight this guy that I know I can whip, I can make 10. So why take the chance for an extra five when I can get this can over here and I can whip 15 mil, but if I fight this guy that I know I can whip, I can make 10. So why take the chance for an extra five when I can get this can over here and I can whip him for 10?

So I just get me a couple, I get me five or 10, I get me five or 10 to be 10 million dollar fight. Why would I need to take a risk for two of those big fights? No, I ain't gonna do that. But then, you gotta think about that. Lamar, I told Uncle O tonight, we talked about this too, right?

Not only do certain people not wanna to take risks but you want to build it up until you get to the really really good fight so if you got like you talk about the four the four Kings back then back in the day yeah right and today if you got the best boxes right and if all the best boxes fight each other right now and not have fight after fight after fight and actually build it so people want to actually actually want to watch and you can maximize your your pain and not have fight after fight after fight and actually build it so people wanna actually watch and you can maximize your pay, that's a little different. Think about how long before Earl and Bud actually fought.

Look how long it took, look how many fights they had because they have the build up to it. So from that standpoint, I kinda get it and understand you wanna maximize your pay. You also Nobody wants to lose but at some point they don't have no choice but to fight each other Oh Joe you gotta understand. The timing gotta be right. But think about it and Lamont you know this Sugar Ray went to 160 to fly Hagler. He definitely did. He definitely did. He didn't come down. He they went to him

come down, they went to him. And you talking about guys that started off very similar, 130, 135, they went up two, Sugar Ray was 147, went to 160, Hagler, or Hearns was 147, went to 160. He definitely right about that. That's middle weight. And Ray and Durant started at 35, so. Durant was the 35. So. Come on. Durant was that Yuma Dastma?

Yeah. One of the best light weights to ever do. Yeah. A lot of those guys started, yes, a lot of those guys started there, Ojo. 30, 35, Fort Floyd, 30, 35, 40, 47, and Fort de la Hoya, 54. Yep. Yeah, oh yeah, a lot of, 47, and De La Hoya at 54.

Yeah, oh yeah, a lot of them guys, yeah. And have, Pacquiao's an anomaly. Pacquiao started at like 106, 120. And blew through everything. Eight division champion. You're not gonna see that. Even when you look at Armstrong, you look at all those guys, nobody's doing this again. Nobody's gonna see that you even even when you look at our Armstrong you look at all those guys Nobody's doing this again. Nobody's gonna do that

Yeah, I mean basically you'd have to start and say you'd have to start at like 140 to go to heavyweight to try to clean They try to clean out everything If that is that is not happening at all Roy wasn't a normal bad boy Yeah, Roy went with me. He said it 10 years straight Yeah, Roy went from 50 to 68, said it. Ten years straight. Yeah. Middleweight, heavyweight.

If Roy hadn't had Roy just stayed there and not screw up the muscle that he put on to go to heavy, because I think that took a lot out of him. That took too much out of him. He probably should have stayed. He probably should have never come back down or just took his time. But Roy won the title, couldn't get nobody else to fight gave the title up and came back down And he wasn't the same after Tarver beat him that one time He was never the same because he got started getting beat by fighters that Roy Roy would have mopped the floor inside of five rounds

with him Yeah, so what's next tank? I mean, oh, excuse me. What's next? Uh Lamont? What's next after this tank? After this tank fight you say you want to fight whoever the big money fight is who ain't Lomo Tifimo Haney Garcia Whoever the champs at 135 right now are she cool Keisha Davis and Okay, that's that's that's who we gonna be looking at after, you know what I'm saying, after I beat Tank, after I beat Tank in every match. Okay.

Then we won't. You know, if them guys ain't available, then we gonna go to 30 and defend my 130-pound championship. So listen, out of those three you just named, who would you prefer to fight first? If you can't get all three, if you had a preference. If I had a preference? I don't really got a preference I want I would I would put a blindfold on and pick whichever one it don't matter About a thing I tell you what I tell you what Lomo you gonna get it first

So you gonna get it after I get tank when I get get tank I'm gonna get you at the first of the year and Shakur. I'm gonna come see you in July Kishan David a at the end of the year or 27. I got you. I got you ass-whipping too. Hey Sound good to me. Yeah Hey, man, I appreciate it congratulations great fight It wasn't the outcome that you had hoped for because you trained for eight weeks, had a great camp, and you put the time in to win. It didn't go away, but who knows what's gonna happen July, August when the next fight come around. Wish you the best and guess what? Come back and join us again when the fight happens and all.

We'll see what happens after that Lamar. I appreciate you. Man, will do. Thank you man. I appreciate it. I'ma see you in DC. No doubt. Yeah, get my contact. We'll bring you happens after that Lamar. Appreciate you. Thank you man. I appreciate both of y'all. I'ma see you in DC. No doubt. Yeah, get my contact. We'll bring you out for sure. Just a body. Cause he need to talk. So don't hit him in the jaw. I don't want him to... Yeah, that's what I want you to do. Yeah, yeah.

Make it like... That's what I want you to do. That's what I want you to do. Hit him in the... Yeah, I got it. I'ma make sure I record it too. We have it on the night. That's what I need you to do. Record it. All right, all right, all right, all right. Appreciate that, LeBron. Have a good one, bro.

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["Energy Line"] Lamar Rose Jr., man, that's unbelievable, man. It was great talking to him. Ochoa, hey, you have your, that's your thing, boss of your thing. Oh yeah. That was fun. That was fun. I enjoyed that.

I enjoyed that. That was. It's always great to get these guys. You know what? I'm going to reach out to Roy because I want to hear what Roy got to think on this. Roy, I'm going to hear Roy tomorrow and see if I can get Roy to come on and talk about this fight. Yeah, hey, matter of fact, that'd be good. You get Roy here, Roy can tell you the stories about why we used to spar. Man, you ain't want none of Roy.

You know what I'm saying? Come on, man. You know Roy from down here, man. Yeah, I know. Yeah, me and Roy used to spar when I was in high school. I used to spar with him sometimes. Yeah, he from the same place Brooks from. Mm-hmm. Hey, boy, he quick than a motherfucker, boy. Yeah. Jesus Christ.

Oh, he from Pensacola. Yeah, you're right down the street. Yeah, he from D. Brooks, and I play with another guy named, oh, Emmett from Pensacola, too. Emmett who? Emmett Smith. Emmett from Pensacola? Yeah. Emmett from Pensacola? Yes, yes. That's Roy Homeboy. Roy and Emmett they homeboys for real. Man I didn't know that. Yeah Emmett from Pensacola. Oh, okay. Okay, why did learn something? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, right. I used to be peace and Roy ass up well Days, but we got to get right on here man. We told him we got some good

We'll get it. Oh Joe Kevin Iran and coach bud got into it last night. Check this interaction out. Oh Joe During the time out early in the game coach button holdsdenhozer grabbed KD's arm in an apparent attempt to pull him in for a conversation, but KD pulled his arm away. Then they engaged in a brief animated conversation before party ways. KD spoke about it after the game. Let's take a listen to what KD had to say. Yeah, that's what usually happens when you don't know the dynamics of a relationship. You know, you catch something on TV, you did a quote, and now you pushing that narrative

as if me and blood don't do that shit all the time. We competitive as two individuals who want to see things done the right way. And sometimes my way ain't the way that boy want to do it and vice versa. And he allows me as a player on the team, a veteran on the team, to voice my team. If we both didn't care, we would never have stuff like that. You know what I'm saying? So, I'm glad that the win is going to sweep all that stupid stuff under the rug because people couldn't wait. Even some people with fiending say, here, we couldn't wait to run with that. You know, and say, oh, this is the reason why the team ain't playing well

because of that specific thing. But come on, that that shows that me and Bud really care about trying to break this shit and trying to win basketball again. So he understands what I'm coming from. I understand exactly where you're coming from. This is people on the outside don't know the dynamics of the relationship. So, you know, in order for them to get some attention, they're going wrong with some with stuff like that. You heard it.

Yeah. He says, hey, sometimes I see things one way, but I don't see it that way. Sometimes Buzz see things one way, I don't see it that way. We have a difference of opinion, and hey, he cares, I care. We trying to get this shit right.

And he right, I mean, look, that makes it seem like that's never happened before. I've seen coaches and players, they shove each other and all, can't hear, curse, all that kind of stuff. It happens. You get two animated, testosterone-driven men that I believe what I'm saying is right. He believes what he's saying is right. Two people can't be right. Maybe, hey, two things can be true. Maybe you're right and maybe he's right. But at that point in time, we don't see it that way. I want you to see my point of view.

Nah, bro, I need you to see my point of view. Right. But I don't know what happens, but I know KD went crazy in the fourth quarter and they were down 23 and they won the game. That's what I do know. Listen, the funny thing about it with the Suns, listen, when you're losing everything

and magnified. Yep. When you're losing the way they are, even though they won that specific game, everything is magnified. Unless you played organized sports in a structured environment, you'll never understand that dynamic. You'll never understand it. That goes on all the time, especially when it comes to a player of that magnitude that's great. You have a coach and the coach wants to see you do your best. Or if you're not playing to your full potential, they're going to get on you just like that. That happens not just at the elite level with NBA players, NFL players. It starts even when you're young.

The problem that you got to worry about is when you have a coach that cares about you and he stops talking to you and he doesn't try to correct you. He's not pulling your head and trying to get you to do things the right way. That means he doesn't care. So what I see as a former athlete, stuff like that happen. It resonates with me because I've been in that situation before with Hugh Jackson getting on me on the sideline. Of course, because I'm trying my hardest. I fire back.

I talk back a little bit. But you know, Hugh, man, you would grab me by the neck. Man, don't play with me. Yeah. Not today. Hugh from Carpenter. Hey, you don't play. Man, you a damn fool.

Hugh good people. But Hugh good people. I like you. But you know what, Ochoa, you're right, you're absolutely right with a lot of times, like, you know, in the heat of the battle, you forget. Like, man, I shouldn't do this in front of all these people because there's 70,000, 80,000 people watching

and there's cameras everywhere. You forget sometimes. You do forget. You absolutely forget. According to the moment. I always try to be mindful, you know, hey, let's get this behind closed doors. I'm just gonna give you a look.

You mean like that look you gave me when you thought I was late on Thursday? Hey, hey, nah, that was like, coaches, like, hey bro, look here. I won't allow you to say anything to me Mary Porter didn't say. Right. Mary Porter ain't never called me no mofo. She ain't never called me no SOB.

So now if you think you can call me that, now you know what, I'm gonna take this uniform off, I'm gonna whip your ass, cause I know I ain't gonna be here. But all that stupid, you know what, I don't gonna be here. But all that, all that, all that stupid, you know what? I don't play that. Mm-mm. Nah, give me that.

Cause, nah, I don't play like that, Ocho. I don't. So we had, hey, we just had, I had a great understanding. Hey bro, don't,'t they come on now? Right. I ain't your kid. I got kids you got kids. I got kids You just can't talk to me any kind of way. Yeah. Yeah, I'm going to be trust me. Tell me what I did wrong I'm not gonna make that same mistake twice, but you're not gonna call me dumb. You know, you stupid. Oh, no Okay, I can't get

that like that. I ain't finna hold you. Y'all can talk about sensitive all you want to, but I'm big, I'm huge on respect. Respect, respect, yeah. I give it to everybody. I give, I believe every man or woman deserves a certain level of respect. Yeah. Now, when that level of respect dissipates, it's best that you and I go out separate ways. That's okay. And then sometimes on your like, when you on a team, you ain't gonna get along with everybody. Yeah.

Hey, you do your thing, I'm gonna do my thing on this field, wa-wa-wa-wa. Hey, when the whistle blows, time to go out certain ways. Yeah Go about the locker room. Hey, like I don't even know you There it is. Hey, it is. Yeah. Yeah, there it is all this man. You ain't bro. He was a teammate You not you not buddy buddy with everybody that's on your team. You buddy buddy with everybody y'all work office Y'all go out to lunch and do happy hour go to each other's crib. No

That's what I mean. Some guys are close like that. Oh Joe. They are. Yeah. Yeah, some guys not This ain't college. Well, you see it, you know I'm saying you I will pass the guy in the hallway to collect going to class or he might be in the same class Bro, a lot of these guys they got families pass the guy in the hallway and go in the class or he might be in the same class. Bro, a lot of these guys, they got families, they got kids and y'all, you know, we on different wavelengths and that's okay. We just try to do the same. When we at work, hopefully we got the same goal, Ojo, to try to win as many games we possibly can. Once you go home. Done deal. Yeah, but I'm not making too, I'm not making too much out of it when the KD interaction has happened. Like I said, I've seen coaches and players.

Man, I've seen college, I've seen a basketball player beat the basketball coach so down we had to go pull him up off it. I ain't bullshiting him. Ultra, when I say he beat him down... Ultra, when I say he beat him down... Right, he must have said something slick, huh? I don't know what he said. And, you know, I'm looking out the bathroom, where did I see him argue?

I'm like... Because I ain't never seen... Look, look, I've seen players and coaches argue in that setting. Yeah. On the football field, on the basket. Okay, that's one thing. But bro, we not in that environment. We not on the football field. We not on the basketball court. Right.

And you arguing with me like, we just two ninjas in the street. Right. So I'm like, what the hell? I said, man, let me go down there for something, papa. So I go down there. I'm just, you know, I'm, they got nothing to do with me. So I really shouldn't be the next thing I know. Woo, wop, wop, wop, wop, wop, wop, wop, wop, wop, wop, wop, wop. Oh Joe, I be like, okay, you probably asked for it because first of all, you don't live on campus. When you bring your ass back on campus after the practice is over to come back up here in front of this man,

you probably would get what you deserve. Uh-huh. Where I intervened when he started kicking and putting feet on him. Oh, yeah. I said, nah, I can't let you do that. Yeah, you gotta go get it. I had to get him up off of him. And they're like, bro.

And look here, I said, coach, go ahead on now. Because if I turn this man loose, after I got him up off of you. That's on you. That's on you now. Round two. I said, hey, I called my other coach. I said, hey, man, get coach up out of here.

Coach O, when I say he whipped it. Yeah. Hold on, so that was the coach that the player was part of the team. Yes Hold on was the player allowed to remain on the team after that? Yeah We played a couple I think he ended up leaving on his own but he didn't kick him off If I'm not mistaken, I think what the coach thought. Okay, so he must have been a star player He was he wasn't a star player, but he was a good player. He was a decent player. Okay coach thought. Okay so he must have been a star player. He was he wasn't a star player but he was a good player he was a decent player. Okay okay okay okay. But my thing is if I'm a coach here's the thing. Yeah. If you let a

puppy lick you in the mouth you better be careful cuz he gonna grow up to be a dog and he'll bite you. Mmm. Man, boy. Uh-uh, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. Boy, that was a good one there, bro. What? Boy, you know, I don't go nowhere without it now. Yeah. If you let, if you let. Let a puppy lick you in the mouth,

he'll grow up and bite you when he becomes a dog. See, if you put yourself on that level, see, the problem that the coach had is that he put himself on that level to be with the player. So the player no longer looked at him as the coach. Right. He looked at him like a calm, like another player. Let a puppy lick you in the mouth. Oh, that's a good one. So that's why, that's, Ojo, that's why with kids, you stay up here, Ojo. You don't say, oh, that's my friend.

Oh, that's my best friend. Me and my daughter, me and my son, we like best friends. Ain't no, we not, no, no, we not. I'll tear your ass up. I'm dead your ass up. I'm dead. What's up everyone. Julie Swift, banks here along with former NHL player, Nate Thompson. We're doing a new podcast together.

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