Club Shay Shay - Nightcap - Hour 1: Luka trade compared to Babe Ruth trade, Booker on the Suns bad season, + Omarion Hampton joins the show to talk about the draft!

Episode Date: April 11, 2025

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson react to the Luka trade being compared to Babe Ruth trade, Booker says its been a slow bleed out all year, & Omarion Hampton joins the show to talk about the draft!08:36 - Get well soon Adrian11:50 - Luka trade compared to Babe Ruth trade19:44 - Devin Booker, Kevin Durant + Suns miss playoffs35:55 - Omarion Hampton joins the show49:47 - Bruce Arians on Anthony Richardson1:02:00 - Sheuder Sanders visits with Steelers(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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But take your time. He had suffered a medical emergency today, but I think he's doing well. We're going to reach back out tomorrow and see if he's getting better and better. Hopefully he is. But Adrian knows that we're praying for you and get back when you can. Oh Lord have mercy on this man here. What happened, huh? What happened? I? What happened?

I already knew it. What? Uh, you was in the same classroom the whole day. And you had one teacher. She taught him everything, y'all. He never left that class. From K through 12, Ocho stayed in the same classroom the entire day. And you know what?

I love when you say that, but the funny thing about it is I was a 4.0 student. Obviously in college, I made the Dean's List. Yeah, but they were great on a 15 point scale. No, no, no, no, no, no. You better check my resume. Check my record, man. And Ocho, yeah, Ocho, you went to Juco. You know why I went to Juco? You know, I went to Juco.

Yes. That was really why everybody go to Juco. Why? Yes. Hey, we. Your grave, you couldn't have got in prison. You didn't had to go to Juco. You had to go to Juco to get to prison with the grave. Now, now, now, now, McGrady McGrady is good now.

McGrady was good. It just listen. I just want to play football. You hear me, nah, nah. My grades, my grades good, man. My grades good. It just, listen, I just wanna play football. You hear me? My grandma used to- I know! And your grades were indicative of that. Somebody that just wanted to play football. I was a brilliant man.

I just wasn't focused. I wasn't focused. I'm just telling you. Listen, you can tell how smart I move, right? You can tell how smart I am, despite the jokes and the entertainment. Think about how I've moved and how successful I've been far removed from the game and entertainment. Think about how I've moved and how successful

I've been far removed from the game of football. You hear me? Yeah. I know my stuff now. I just- You had the wake up call. Like a lot of us had the wake up call. Oh yeah.

Hey listen, can I tell you something real quick? Going to Zucco and being ineligible one year, you know, and seeing everybody pass me by, in my backwards against the wall, it was do or die. Absolutely. in the eligible one year, you know, and seeing everybody pass me by, and my back was against the wall, it was do or die. Absolutely. It was do or die. Yeah, ain't nobody waiting around, ain't nobody feeling sorry for you. At all. My grandma always said, baby you need to focus on your books first and put football second, and I felt I was good enough to do it my way. And lo and behold, the one time I

tried it her way was that one year that after being in Lejeune, at a two year institution, it took me three to get out of. I did it her way, focused on school first. I did my summer classes at West LA. I did some at Southwest too in LA. Got myself together, got that one for one at Oregon State. Man, look here, man, I ain't looked back since then.

Yeah. Well glad we glad you figured it out yeah that's me that's me that's me that's me oh Joe Jason Kidd says there are some are comparing the Babe Ruth Luca with AD they're comparing that trade to when Babe Ruth the Red Sox traded Babe Ruth to the Yankees $400,000 because the owner wanted to finance a movie Which is kind of cool in regards to the Luca trade I Mean if you the Yankees is pretty cool

Yeah Not if you're the Red Sox because it was 80 years you was 80 years and you was cursed So I don't know the prism or the lens in which you get Jay kid is looking at this through right but He's on the wrong end of this trade currently. So for the Yankees, yes, it's very cool. Excuse me. For the Lakers, it's very cool like it was for the Yankees because they got Babe Ruth. Between the traded Babe Ruth, there was an 80 year stretch where it wasn't good. And I think the lens that he's looking at it from, he's looking at it on how great Babe Ruth was,

not only when he left the Red Sox, but what he was able to do for the Yankees once he got there. And I think Jason King can also see long-term the visual effects of having Luca and how consistent he's gonna be with the Lakers. And it's almost a shot at his own organization, huh? Yeah.

It's a shot at his own organization, because how could we do this where you're comparing the trade of Luka to the Lakers to that of Bayard Roof, leaving the Red Sox to go to the Yankees? Yeah, because we know what he did for the Yankees. He catapulted them and put them in a stratosphere. And they now, as far in terms of baseball, they're the number one baseball team. And I mean, hey, the Yankee pinstripes. Nobody else, nobody else has a, a Yankee pinstripe or has a, a, a signature or, or,

or Seville, Savile Row, whatever you want to call it, where they're named after something like, man, I'm the Yankee pinstripe. Nobody else has that. Uh, Beirut trade, Boston and New York for cash university regarded as one of the worst sports trades in history Yeah, the Yankees became the Yankees the Red Sox suffered a curse of the Bambino by not winning the World Series for 86 years. Oh, I Don't know if the Dallas fans are gonna be be happy if they don't win a championship for 86 years

Well, it's like he'd looking to going down that way unless there's someone magical comes along and free agency, someone magical comes along, that's a one and done in college. It ain't looking too pretty. Well, let's see what happens when Kyrie gets back. Hey, stop. When Kyrie gets back, AD with the team they have, they have Gaffer, they have lively. They got three live active bodies that you can play AD at the four. Now when you really need him, you can play him at the five late in the ball game, which he likes to be, which he's plays his best when he's at the four, but he can

play the five last five minutes of the ball game. So you got three active big with Gaffer, AD and lively. Likely. it's likely lively lively lively there Yeah, lively the second so once you get him Kyrie Nick Marshall was played really well. Let's see clay clay has had some really good games. He's been off Obviously, we know clay is not what he was was, but he can get hot. You can catch fire.

Yeah, that's definitely. So let's see. Right now is really not the time. I know everybody's looking at the trade of a vacuum because what the lake sense, what Luke is doing for the Lakers and especially what he did last night. Yeah. But let's give this trade a year or two. Then we can really assess it says, okay, because what happens if the Mavericks are in the finals? What happens if they turn this thing around? So no, I think with Kyrie, I think with Kyrie Ocho, we know Kyrie is a is a is a is a all star.

Anthony Davis is an all NBA and an all star. So two of those guys with the team that they got, obviously they could possibly make some moves, now what's to say they don't make a movie could possibly land KD. Now. Are you still upset? No I'm not a KD Kyrie and ad. Hold on. We keep we keep talking about Kyrie. Listen, I love Kyrie I love everything and he does right everything that he can do especially being one of the greatest dribblers and Great dribblers of the ball and being able to create his own shot. But Anki's coming off an ACL tear. Do we know what Kyrie we're getting coming off of that? Can he come back and still have the same lateral movement, the same quickness, still be able to do the same things he did that made him special when he has a ball in his hands? We don't know that yet. I believe he will considering the way medicine is and the way these guys come back now.

It used to be a death sentence when you had an ACL back in the 70s, maybe even the 80s. But now with the way medicine is, oh, these guys coming back in seven, eight months. Now, basketball players, they normally err on the side of caution. So he probably won't be back until after the new year. So 26 possibly would be the earliest that you're going to see Kyrie.

But I have no doubt in my mind that he's going to come back and be the same Kyrie. He's still going to be dynamic. He's still going to be electric. Uh, and now you pair him with AD and who knows what they're going to do there. I don't believe they're expanding that. They obviously look, there's a report site there that they'll The sons are gonna have to do something because the way they're constructed even with KD even with book even with Bradley bill Right, they're gonna miss the playoffs. They're not even in the play-in so you can't keep this team the same. Right? So you're paying 300 plus million dollars

You got 300 plus million dollars tied up in three guys and you missed the playoffs in its entirety Yeah, you gotta blow it up. Yeah. You gotta blow it up. You gotta blow it up. Um, Katie is leaving. I know that. Yeah. Katie bill.

I mean, Hey, you, you gotta get, you, you gotta move on cause it's not, it's not. It's not working. It hasn't worked. Uh, and when they, and, and a matter of fact, when they made the playoffs, if I'm not mistaken, I think they got swept. So you get swept, you missed the playoffs, it's over. Yeah. It's over.

So let's see what, let's see what they do. But yeah, Jay kid, I don't know. I mean, you look at it, this thing, I think you look at it upside down. Had you got Luca, you could say, yeah, we can compare this, but y'all shipped Luca out. So I guarantee you the Red Sox weren't, once Babe Ruth started knocking the ball over the fence and they started winning World Series, yeah, I don't think they was as happy as they thought they were going to be. You got to look at it though. For Jason Kidd to say what he's saying as the head coach of the Dallas Mavericks

It just tells you how special Luca was to where you're even using that in comparison to that trade that long ago Again, it's a low blow and it's a shot at management. How could you do something like this? How could you have a trade of this magnitude? Because he's comparing it to that of Bay leaving the Red Sox. Right. And plus the thing is, Lucas 26, he didn't ask to be traded. Bayruth didn't ask to be traded. The owner wanted to finance a play and he needed money and it happened. And they traded, if I'm probably mistaken, because they're in the same division now.

I don't know if they were back then, but you traded him to a division rival. So it's crazy that that had happened, but hey, I don't know if crazier things have happened, but we'll see. Right, but I think you're gonna have to give this deal. I can't look at it this year. Kyrie got hurt. AD was hurt for a large part of a large stretch. I can't look at it this year. Kyle Reid got hurt. AD was hurt

for a large part of a large stretch. I think he missed 20 plus games. After he got there played great the first three quarters of a game and was outstanding. And then he got injured and he missed some time. So let's see over the next two to three years how this trade play out because we might look at it. Hey, might look at it totally different. Devin Booker spoke about the Suns missing the play-in. He said, it's been a slow bleed out. I've been feeling this way the majority of the season. Does the Sun missing the playoffs change your view on KD's legacy?

No, absolutely not. I don't, I don't think it changes his legacy. Uh, there's, there's only so much KD can do. KD still regardless then missing the playoffs will be one of the greatest scores of all time. Nothing will change that. I think the the chase of having super teams, I think it's come to an end now. I think it's come to an end. KD is probably going to be, he will move somewhere else, where he goes, I'm not sure.

I think he will try to get another title or two. So wherever he chooses to go, I'm sure management might not cooperate, but probably give him that grace and sending him somewhere where he wants to play and where he has a chance of winning a title. I don't think Devin Booker is gonna be there as well. I think, I'm not gonna use it.

I don't hate using the term, you watch out your welcome. You don't want to stay too long. Similar to what um stay with the blazers a little too long because he wanted to be loyal. Oh no you talking about uh you talking about uh KG with the Timberwolves. No no no no no no no. With the trailblazers. Dame Dollar? Yeah Dame Dame Dame. I don't want Devin Booker to do that. I don't want you to wear out your welcome and try to be loyal to a franchise

that really, really isn't going anywhere. Give yourself a chance. Give yourself a chance to compete at a championship or at least make the playoffs to get past the first round. So I think both of them are probably going and the sons are gonna have to scrap everything until you really start all over. But with this, where I would disagree with you this notion

Then we put drop Kevin Durant in and that team is automatically a championship contending team is just no longer true We've seen him get dropped in at Brooklyn He got swept and he got to the second round He had a 3-2 lead and he lost two games, the game seven on his court. We see him go to Phoenix with Devin Booker and Bradley Beal. Yes, sir. While his legacy might not be altered, it may or may not. Let's see once his career is done.

But this notion that you drop Kevin Durant in anywhere and they are a championship contending team is no longer true It's no longer true And I don't think I defy the person that can argue that point if they channel it is true We saw him with Kyrie. We saw him with James Harden. We saw him with Devin Booker We saw him with Bradley Beal, right? The only thing that we know is Steph Curry, Draymond, and Clay Thompson. That was a team that won 73 games the year before he got there and it blew a 3-1 lead.

They beat a team. Cameron the Red was on the same, was on the team. That blew the 3- one lead to Golden State. Right. Golden State turned around and blew a three one lead to the Cleveland Cavaliers. So with that being said, I think it's gonna be hard press for any analysis, for any historian, for any player in the NBA. As great as Kevin Durant is to say that you just drop him in and they're a championship contending team is not not true

It's not true Because we see we've seen it. Hold on even even with him being able to score the way he can So what happens? Oh, could you not score in Brooklyn? Well, you never everything with haywire in Brooklyn with Kyrie. Okay, what happened in Phoenix? Oh You see we keep a big we keep we keep saying, see, you keep coming up with excuses. Well, I'm just telling you, it's not excuses if it's documented on what happened. Kyrie was in Kyrie, you know, I'm not sure what was wrong with Kyrie. James Harden wanted out.

I mean, it seemed like everything fell apart from what looked good that I thought, even I thought, you know, as somewhat of a basketball fan, I'm like, oh, well, the Nets, they definitely gonna have a shot. They definitely coming out east. That's what I thought until, you know, Kyrie with the scrunnel, James Harden got upset. He wanted out and KD was like, so why? Yeah, by himself. Why did James Harden want to get out? Well, I have no idea. I don't know what type of internal issues they were having. Just from the outside looking in, I thought it was a good look. Yeah, y'all stop this.

See, every time we have a conversation, they try to slide LeBron. That's not true because LeBron went to Miami. OK, what were they doing before LeBron arrived in Miami? When LeBron left, how long before they got back to another NBA finals? When LeBron went to Cleveland, how long before they returned to the finals? They went all four years, they won one. Kyrie got hurt in the overtime of game one. Kevin Love never played in that series. He goes to the Lakers. And the second year they win a title. So this notion that where LeBron James goes, the rings don't follow is just not true because we've seen him move

three times in all three locations. There's a trophy and he's the finals MVP. So this notion that LeBron James doesn't move the needle is just not true. You might not like him. You can call him all the names you want, but it's factual. It's factual. Pure and simple. I get it. He's the most, I mean he has a Ken doll now, the first athlete to be a Ken ambassador. Very unique. Unbelievable. They did, they got all the details right. But this notion, guys, come on now, let's be fair. See y'all playing, so Heathen Phoenix, he got Devin Booker, who's an All-Star. Bradley Beal was an All-Star.

They missed the playoffs. With three All-Stars. They missed the playoffs, they got swept the first year. Come on man. Cleveland seems to be doing fine without him. How long has LeBron, hold on, how long has LeBron been in LA? Four? Has it been four years?

Like seven years? Has it been that long? 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, six years. Okay. So six years. Now, I know after LeBron left, give me the pig. Darius Garland. What pig was Darius Garland?

Because if you're doing well, you're not picking Darius Garland. Darius Garland was a top five pick. Am I correct? He was the fifth pick in the draft. What about Sexton? What pig was he? Colton is Sexton. What pick was Evin Mobley?

So this notion y'all talking about Cleveland seem to be just fine. They should be. Evin Mobley was the third pick in the draft Darren's Garland with the fifth pick in the job a Call roll with the field pick in the draft. Hey What big was what people section? Mobley was three section with a car was five Garland was five What about sex and they ended up trading him to get down over Mitchell he was a lottery pick yeah he was eight so I damn sure hope

so they doing just fine now it took a while you got you got a top you got two thought you got three you got three top five picks yeah three come on now y'all know y'all y'all y'all don't want to argue this. Y'all really don't. I got time tonight. I got time tonight. Y'all don't really want to do it. Y'all know I do this for a living. I do this for a living. Y'all don't want to argue the facts.

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they gave up. What they traded. A Mikael Bridges, a Cam Johnson, four first-round picks. So I need to replenish my cupboard, my pantry, for what I lost giving him up. Now you're never gonna get the equal value back. There you go. So already knowing that, they can only ask for so much. Because there is no equal value out there in the NBA, outside of players that are untouchable. Outside of players that are going to be untouchable. Right. And so that's the thing, Ocho. But see, here's like him going to Golden State, because let's just say Golden State had to trade for him. They would have probably had to give up Clay or Draymond.

They would have had to give up a piece. But because he was a free agent. Right. It made it easy. Boom. Made it easy. I ain't got to give up anything. And he took a, he took a friendly deal.

He could have got more. He took a little less money. Okay. He goes to a Brooklyn. He's a free agent. They don't have to give up anything. So now you can trade those pieces. Kyrie was a free agent. They go together. James Harden comes. You had to give up some, but now you got Harden, you got Kyrie, and you got KD. For whatever happened, James Harden sees

where it's going. It's like, man, we can't win here. He wanted to trade. You trade for Bim Simmons. Bim Simmons was damaged in Philly. I knew from the time they lost that, they lost that to Atlanta. I said it was done because once I heard Doc talk after the game, I heard Joel Embiid talk after the game. Go back and look it up. I said, he's done there. It'll never be the same. It's done. Now, you get him, now Kyrie, you have the COVID situation.

Kyrie doesn't take the COVID vaccination. He has the issue where he tweeted the link. Okay, whatever happened, it happened. He moves. KD's like, bro, it is what it is. It's not gonna work. Let me go somewhere. He wanted to go to Phoenix.

He likes book, seemed like a great, but you got it. But see when you trade the same thing with Mello, when he went to the Knicks, you have to give up so much to get him. You looking at that team, you're like, well, damn, man, I really liked it. They nice over there. When you get there, they've given up all the talk, two, three of the top picks and draft picks.

Well, how do you, how do you build a team, Ocho? Yeah. You three D. You have no doubt. Yeah. See the difference is Boston drafted, drafted. So we got, we got, we got our core. Right.

Now the first mistake that they made, Milwaukee, they traded for Dane. They give up holiday. Well, it seems to me when you give up, when you give up Dane Portland says, we're going young, right? Most of the say, which we'll take holiday. We'll take them up your hands. You get Derek white on a, on a, on a, on a deal early. You bring big Al back.

Yeah. You made them whole. So now I can build around because I'm piecing things together. I don't really have to give up a whole lot because Portland wanted to go young. They weren't asking. They didn't ask for Jalen Brown. It didn't ask for date. Well, obviously Tatum, you're not getting him.

And they swung the deal for Przingus. Przingus wanted out. He didn't want to play with, with Luca anymore. Right. He said, I'm tired of y'all blaming me for every damn thing. I'm going to get out. So that's the, the, the problem that you have when you give up so much for KD. What do you have, Ocho?

You could have two stars, but what about your bench? What about your depth? That's where the Celtics beat your ass. When they come in with Pritchard, they come in with Hauser, they come in with Al Horford off the bench. You got three perimeter defenders with Holliday, with Derrick White and Jalen Brown. Tatum can defend. Obviously, he's not like with Derek White and Jalen Brown. Tadum can defend. Obviously he's not like those guys, but he can defend. Yeah. You gotta have depth. OKC.

Depth. Damn. I don't, I don't like that. That's why Cleveland made the trade to get Deandre Hunter. They wanted to add strength to their bench. Right. Because if you can't have a bench, if you, that's what Golden State used to kick your ass. Because if they had a lead, the second unit,

the shock troops would extend the lead. If the other team had the lead, they would cut into it or even the game up. Now you bring KD, you bring Steph, you bring Draymond, you bring Clayback, and run away from you. Yeah. Well, the way you make it sound, it's like, it's impossible.

It's impossible for KD to go anywhere. So he might as well stay in Phoenix because there's no way they can get the value or the compensation for him. No. The problem is he knows they tried to, they wanted, they would have, if KD would have said, yeah, I want to go, they would have moved him.

It was in the middle of the season. At the trade-off. It was the middle of the season. So nothing could happen in the middle of the season. So guess what? If they want to move you in the middle of the season, what the hell you think they'll do in the off season? Oh, they gonna move you, no.

Okay. Yeah, they gonna do it. Yeah, hey, how do you think he arrived in Phoenix? There was a better little season trade Yeah, so he was not like he wasn't he's he's new to this right? That's how he arrived in phoenix That's that's I was there during the super bowl that happened during the super bowl Right remember I told you I at our hotel. I walked the hotel and I'm like damn i'm a tall ass dude I'm stabbed. Okay

Uh I'm a tall ass dude. I'm a damn tall KD. You feel something? Uh... It's gonna be... My thing is it's just that you're gonna have to give up so much to get it. They're gonna want, I mean, if he goes to Miami, who do you think they're gonna want? Are you gonna give up Hero? You gonna give up Bam?

You gonna give up Hot, uh, uh, what? Hot Smith? Hot, was it Hot Smith? Hot Tyler? Which one is it? You gonna give up hero you gonna give up BAM you give up hot what hot Smith hot with the hot Smith hot tower Which one is it? Probably probably probably Tyler No, they get there in a pad right and give it up Tyler hero When he got scary Terry Rozier They don't probably want to get up off him because he's dealing with the he's dealing with the stuff with the gambling and all that He's been injured

That's tough. We could continue this. We'll come back after this. Oh Joe actually connecting now. Draft pick Amariah and Hampton. He's a second team, AP All-American. First team, all ACC running back. Finals for the Dole Walkover award led the team with 15 Russian touchdowns.

Ranked third in the FBF with 1,660 rushing yards, a former Gatorade North Carolina Mr. Football Player of the Year, and winner of the States Mr. Football, where your eyes set on UNC or, oh no. Amarion, I'm about to read, I'm about to read everything for you, bro I'm good, bro. How you doing, bro? I'm doing good. How about you? I'm doing great, bro I see you rep in CAA. So that's the agency that you signed with. Yeah. Yeah. I just recently joined

They've been going me through the past season. So I'm pretty good about them Good, congratulations. Let me ask you this, you're Gatorade, Mr. North Carolina, you're arguably, you obviously so you win that award that means you're the state's best football player. Why did you choose UNC? Did you want to stay at home? Did you go to Georgia? Did you Alabama or anybody else?

What was it about UNC that says you know what, home is where I want to be? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I took the official to Florida. What was it about UNC that says you know what home is where I want to be? Yeah Took a picture to Florida. I took a person to Auburn Penn State and then UNC Okay, I kind of narrowed it down to Penn State and UNC and then I kind of was just always up at UNC It's like 50 minutes from my crib. Okay, it was like I got another teammates. I got to the coaches I feel like it got to know the teammates. I got to know the coaches. I feel like it. I feel like the playing style they had at the time, the offense they had at the time fit me well. So I feel like that was a big part of it too. So I feel like all of that put it together. Hey, I want to ask you about your combine experience. I remember my combine experience

being very nervous. The unfamiliarity of having to be in front of scouts, being in front of that many people and the pressures that came with it. How was your experience at the combine and how do you feel you did? Yeah, yeah. I feel like it was definitely different. It was something I had to adjust to just being in like meeting after meeting after meeting. Yeah.

Just going into that and then having to like run your 40 and do Like all the competitive stuff on the last day, but I feel like I feel like I did good on it I feel like I was prepared for it. I feel like Brent the guy was training with Brent Calloway. He did a good job with all his players and stuff like that. I feel like He'd be helping us prepare for a well, so I feel like I feel like he'd been helping us prepare for it well. So I feel like I did well. So it was a good experience just to get in talk to all the head coaches and stuff. It was really cool.

If you had to take a guess on the coaches that you took and you know how you can get a feel, you can get a feel on who likes you and you can kind of get a feel on who doesn't based on the type of questions they ask you, based on how in depth they get with the personal questions outside of the game of football they ask you, based on how in depth they get with the personal questions outside of the game of football.

If you had to take a guess, who do you think is leaning towards to draft you on draft day? Yeah, I mean, whoever picked me, I'll be happy with. But I mean, it's a lot of teams who need to run back. So I mean, whoever picked me gonna get the best of me, really, so I feel like I kind of don't look at all the little Jeff That's why I was gonna take it because a lot of the mock draft the latest mock draft have you going to the Broncos Now if you need to hook up, you know, hey, I know some people

I know some people. Because if you look at it, if you look at it, you see what Saquon was able to do. You see what Jameer gives and you see what Josh Jacobs and you see what King Henry, we see it, you see the resurgence. There was a stretch for about a decade. The running back was not as, not a decade, probably say six, seven years. The running back was not as valued as it seems to be currently is and coming back. Why do you think that is and what can you add? For team, I'm drafted.

I draft the Marion. Tell me what type of player, what type of person am I getting? Yeah, well, I mean, it's just for me, I feel like I love to see just like the Derek Henry's take wise is them doing their thing out there I'm like is putting more value in but in the position itself I feel like if the team drives me they gonna get a three down that they don't get a guy that plays special teams They gotta go on Everybody can run this league. So I feel like pastor section is a big thing

I kill I feel like kissing out the backfield is another thing that I Keown. Just learning the defense, learning where the safes are, learning how the linebackers move and stuff like that. Just different things, all the in-depth stuff like that. So I mean, just different stuff like that, I feel like, it's helping me. Yeah, I don't know, I mean,

unless you run back, Ponce, a kickoff, and I don't know if they're gonna put you out there on Special Team, bro. You might've done play at your last special team snap in college. Matter of fact, I'm glad you just said that. You said you were a three-man pack, obviously, and then you said what you can do with hand protection. Then you brought up being able to catch the ball out the backfield. So that makes you that much more valuable than other running backs that can do all those things, right?

That means, I'm telling you it does. It makes you special. So in hindsight, when you think about the type of running back you are and what you bring to the table, depending on who drafts you, who would your NFL comparison be right now as far as your playing style goes? Yeah, for me, I like to watch like a lot of guys, like take tips off a lot of guys.

I feel like, uh, Joe Midson, it's kind of like a running style that I'm like. Okay, okay. I try to watch like, I like Gil's running style. Like, I feel like B John is going to be crazy in the future. I feel like, uh, I feel like all those guys really just like Seqwain, like Seqwain's, I feel like everybody, like really just like, say I like say quads, I feel like everybody like everything. Okay, okay.

I like, I like. UNC has some great running. I mean. Go ahead. No, I was just saying I like the Joe makes and compares and that's a good one. That's a good one. Yeah. I'm looking at some of the running backs that's come out of UNC.

Todd Chandler, Michael Carter, Javontae Williams and now yourself. Have you talked to any of those guys? Have they given you some, and some tips. Have you talked to any of those guys? Have they given you some, and some tips about how to prepare for the NFL? What is it like once you get there in order to give you because, you know, you kind of got a little GPS. You got guys that went to your school that can partake information that a lot of people don't have. Yeah, yeah, I feel like, uh, Javontae, Mike Carter, Todd Chandler, I feel like, uh, even the Natron means, I feel like those are all my guys.

Like I can talk to them whenever I need something. That's a close. Yeah, Natron, yeah, he's a dog. Yeah, I can talk to them whenever I need to. They help me out with stuff I need to. I take tips off them too. So I feel like, yeah, they're, they're always a connection for me. I feel like, uh, yeah.

Yeah, North Carolina used to have some great running backs. I don't know if you're probably a little young, but Derek Finner, famous Amos Lawrence, went to North Carolina. Oh, but Derek Finner, they ended up moving to tight end once he got to the NFL, but he was an outstanding running back at UNC. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Excuse me, I wanna ask you this, bro. You named after Mariano B2K. Ha ha ha ha. All day,, though. Cause I've been proud of him. I don't know if I ever seen somebody with a name like a Mariano. So damn, I'm like, hold on, let me ask this man. You and your mom about to like B2K back in the day.

Nah, nah, they definitely, they definitely, you see, listen to them, but I don't know if I was named after them. Hey, I got one. So UNC was sponsored by Jordan Brand, right? If I'm not mistaken. Yeah, yeah. Sponsored by Jordan. Going into the NFL, who would be your dream partnership to be a part of going into the NFL?

Would you like to continue with Jordan Brand? Obviously that would be Nike as well, but Jordan Brand had his own select players that are part of Jordan. Would you like to be with Nike, Adidas? I mean, who? Yeah. Yeah, right now I'm fine with Nike, but yeah, right now I'm fine with Nike, yeah.

All right, all right, I like it, I like it. Yeah, exactly. Hey bro, look, it don't matter. Cleats on feet mean people eat. So that's what you're trying to do right now. It don't matter if it's, hey, they could be pony. They could be sockety. They could be a puma.

Hey, cleats on feet, people eat. Hold on, hold on, hold on. Hold on. Huh? Remember, you had pony cleats too? I did, yes. I wore pony cleats my freshman year in high school. Had Converse too.

Converse used to make cleats. Okay, okay, okay, okay. Hey, hey, hey, oh, hey, when you're not grinding, right? When you're not grinding, what's your go-to cheer move? Are you a gamer? You like music? You like movies? Now, what you be on, outside of the game of football?

Outside of the game of football? I probably be with the boys playing basketball I'll be hooping on time like to the yeah yeah we'll be over at the red center just hoping over there and stuff okay so you're not a game no game no mad no FIFA no no call it yeah I'll be on solid duty okay how do these like game all right all right. Yeah, you married. Oh Yeah, I got a girl Stay focused

Let me ask you some more Give me your top five running backs if I said, okay, you get any any five running backs that you want from any error I mean, so give me your top five running backs that you want for any error? I mean so give me your top five running backs. Yeah I'm gonna say you got the ready ready blues in there. I feel like you gotta put him in there. Okay, I Feel like I'm growing up. I was being martial arts man. Okay, a martial arts is in there too that boy Yeah, yeah And then let me see I got for sick one in there too. That boy. Yeah. Yeah And then let me see I got for sick one in there Say Kwan now I'm gonna do I'm put Derek Henry in there. Okay, but they're hearing and then

I'm probably miss I miss a lot of people. Yeah, you miss a lot of people. You ain't put nobody that came before 2000. Oh, they did play football before 2000, bro. I just want to throw that out there. That's your list? Hey, I want you to take off all your list, but they did play the game of football before 2000. Nah, yeah. I go to a lot in this school, now. But you said you like Joe Mixon, so are you more like, you more run for power, you run

more for like, are you shifty? I mean, are you accommodation? Yeah, yeah. I try to add everything into my game, really. It's always room to grow, try to grow to do different things. I feel like try to make them duke in space, make them do different things, learn off different people. So I'm like, it's always room to grow to do different things.

I try to be versatile as much as I can. Right. Well, bro, we wanna miss, thank you for joining us. Whoa, whoa, whoa, I got one more question. Go ahead. I got one more question. If ahead. I got one more question. If football didn't exist, now obviously we all need to have a plan B.

You just, NFL stand for not for long. I'm not wishing nothing bad, it's just a question. In life, if you're playing, if football didn't exist, let's say it didn't exist, what would your dream career be if you wasn't playing football? I feel like, even what I'm doing now, I feel like if I want like personal training with football, I feel like I would do personal training with like just fitness stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I feel like going around doing personal training with like kids who didn't have like the opportunities that I had. Yeah. going around doing personal training with like kids who didn't have like the opportunities that I had in like smaller neighborhoods and stuff like that. I feel like that's something I wanted to do

in the long run just uh reaching out to those kids giving them opportunities that I had. So I feel like that's one of the things I'll definitely look into. That's a good one. That's a good one. That's dope. That's dope. Well thanks for giving us some of your time. We wish you the best of luck wherever you go bro. Hey it's not where it's not how you go. It's where you go. And once you get there, the journey really start. Your journey doesn't start just getting to the NFL.

The journey starts once you arrive in the NFL. So Ocho and I want to wish you best of luck. The Knight Cow family want to wish you the best of luck and check back in when it's down the road. Yeah. All right. Appreciate it. Appreciate you driving my own. Right. Appreciate you, bro. Don't forget to eat McDonald's. That's a Morrion Hampton, the university of North Carolina running back,

projected to be a first round pick. Uh, Mark had him go into the, uh, the Broncos, but we'll see since there has been a resurgence, we saw what Saquon did for the Eagles. We saw what Derek Henry did for the Ravens offense, Josh Jacobs for the Packers, Jameer Gibbs for the Lions. We saw Joe Mixon, what he added to the Houston Texans. And so the running back is kind of like, Hey, coming back. We saw the year before what C-Mac did for the 49ers. So the running back is definitely coming back.

Guys that can run can catch it, but you gotta be able to pass block. Because once they found that you can't pass block, they gonna bless you. They gonna make you stay in. At the time. They gonna make you stay in, Ocho. So we wish the young man the best of luck

wherever he goes, but we're gonna keep an eye on him. We like to keep an eye on the guys that come on nightcap and chop it up with us, Ocho. So I can't wait to see where he goes and how well he does. Ocho, Bruce Arrien, regarded as the quarterback whisperer, spoke about Anthony Richardson. He said, Anthony, I think needed two more years in college as a passer.

I didn't see him as being able to beat anybody in two minutes in third down. If you can't do that in the NFL, you're just an average guy. He like. Yeah, yeah. He like. He's right, he's right.

I have a question. You got third? Oh Joe, you make your money on third down. Every time. Every time. You got to make your money on third down. Listen, you hope to make your hey on first to make second and third a little easier, but if you don't, the better the passer you are, the more easy it is to convert those

third downs. Now, obviously, I think the repetitions, obviously being in college would have helped him tremendously. If you look at the numbers, I don't have the numbers in front of me, so I don't want to state and be wrong statistically, but he didn't play that many games in college huh? That's why he said he should and he wasn't he wasn't a high completion percentage guy in college yeah so we're not playing a whole lot and I get why he came out Ocho. Yeah. The guy's a top five pick. Oh yeah. He got 20 plus 25 million dollars probably fully guaranteed. They ain't paying that in NIL and collective.

So I get why. I get why. You get why. His family gets why. Because at the end of the day, why are we doing this, Ocho? We're trying to set our families up. That's how I'm not saying all. Let me take that back, Ocho.

There's no such thing as all or every. But a lot of us, what we do this for is for our family. We're trying to get to the back as soon as we possibly can because everybody didn't grow up like a Grant Hill that had a two-parent or the Mannings or the Watts. So we grew up in a situation, a lot of times it's grandma, a lot of times it's mom, and we trying to get there to get them out of that situation so I get why he did it right but what Bruce is saying and I totally agree he could have gotten

a lot more by staying and getting better at his craft right but at the end of the day in the two-minute drill and on third down is as a quarterback where you make your money. You got to have it. You got to have it. But who's to say? There are a lot of quarterbacks in NFL that have made it, that have stayed for four years, that have been there for a long time, that are in those same situations and can burn third downs. So just because... That's why you... But his big message is also too many drill third down. If you can't do that, you're average. So he's not saying that he believed that he would have been better. Look at BAS record, Peyton Manning, Andrew Luck. He worked

with a big Ben Roethlisberger. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Had all those guys in the early stages. Right. He worked with, he had Carson, if I'm not, I think he had Carson. Yeah. In Arizona. In Arizona, yeah. Okay, so he knows something about the quarterback position. I like BA, BA gonna tell you like it is, and he ain't no sugarcoat with BA now.

Yeah, yeah, most definitely. If it comes up, it's coming out. Yeah. It's so, it's- It was also one of the issues then over there in Tampa now. Remember? Yeah, absolutely. That's why they send his ass upstairs.

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Listen to Dubb Dynasty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. So I believe because here's the thing, Ocho. He's a 50, he was a 50, maybe a 50% completion guy in college. If you 50% in college, 50, he's 46. Put it like this here. He had a worst completion percentage to T-bo in the NFL. And you know, Tebow was 47%.

It was worse than Tebow's. So you're not going to be successful. Oh Joe with the way the field is spaced now, the way they protect the quarterback, the way they protect the receivers, right? Everybody should be completing 60%. Yeah. Yeah. Actually you should, because to me, I'm not saying the game is easy, but they made the off of the game much easier.

Yes. And so that's why the quarterback... That's the exception with the way defenders and defense are handicapped. So now it used to be if you completed in the high fifties, boy you had a hell of a season. Oh yeah. Oh absolutely. You had a hell of a...90s when I got to the league and even before, Coach O, if you threw for 3000 yards was the standard. If you threw for 3000 yards because everybody ran to football. That's why many believe Dan Marino still has the greatest statistical passing season,

even though they passed him for yards, they passed him for touchdowns. He threw for 5000 yards and 48 touchdowns That era the running era. Yeah Yeah Dooper doopery clean was eating boy Boy, do you know what they did? No, I came in with it. They knocked they knocked your ass off But there was no part of the quarterback that was off limits But the only thing you couldn't hit him at the bottom of his feet,

and that's because he was standing on him. Other than that, from the top of the head to the top of your feet, you remember I sent you that clip, what Charles Martin did to Gil McMan? He was just standing there and he looked around like, oh, I got you. What? Oh, that was commonplace. Oh, yeah, go back and look Bruce Smith jumps outside. That's what they call Unabated to the quarterback Bruce jumped off sides not boomers South and out of the game For like weeks The game for weeks

It was it was anything go Anything and so they made it easier so for quarterback to be in the 40s, right? Oh Lord, oh Yeah That's bad, it's outro he's got to get up to the mid 50s. He's got to get it up to the mid 50s Oh Joe. I have a question. Yes in your quarterback struggling to have a high percentage or high complete percentage. Do you think this because of his supporting the cast around him is

not good enough? Man, he got some, Hey, you see what he got them receivers. He got, he got Jonathan Taylor in the back. I forgot to mention Jonathan Taylor. Yeah. We didn't mention him. Ocho. And honestly having Jonathan Taylor back there, it should make anything having to do with the passive game that much effing easier

Yes, because I know they got I know they gotta say I know they got a safety in the box Absolutely, absolutely. Listen, you got Pittman. They got Receiver to that's really good. They got I forget his name number 10 number 10. Oh, yes. Oh, yeah. Hey Chad Oh, hey, I apologize. I apologize for the disrespect but young bull whoever wears number 10. I Forgot I forget your name boy. I'm telling you out of my mouth boy. You is the real deal boy You the real deal and I apologize if I remember your name. Boy, you're a real deal. Oh, yeah. What's his last name? OK.

OK. Oh, man. They got Michael Pittman Jr. What's the other receiver? Alex Pierce. Alex Pierce. That's number 10 name, Alex Pierce? And Downs.

They got Josh Downs, Alex Pierce, Michael Pittman Jr. I think the tight end is Moe Ali Copps. downs they got that Josh downs Alec Pierce Michael Pittman, Jr I think the tight end is more alley cops and they got Jonathan Taylor and they had a Braiden Smith took some time away. He was dealing with some dealing with some things, but they got a nice offensive line Mm-hmm. Yeah, there's there's no reason there's none right For him to be completing less than 50% of his passes. Cause he missed a lot of throws, Ocho. And I say, bro, you don't have to throw everything through the eye of a hurricane.

You gotta touch, you gotta touch. You gotta have some finesse to your game. You gotta have some finesse. I'm trying to think what quarterback is labeled of having a very- Mitchell, Mitchell, Mitchell is number 10, Ocho. Mitchell, hey, what, you don't know his first name? Added Mitchell

Yeah You say whatever it is he could cook hey, he'd be cooking a brother me brother Mitchell I apologize. I will never forget your name again, but I'm gonna tell you one thing What do you fly? They got some nice receivers over there. Oh Joe. I'm talking about nice me again, but I'm going to tell you one thing. What? Let me get you fly. They got some nice receivers over there. Oh, I'm talking about nice.

Nice. And I would, I wouldn't know. Reason. I would have the Mitchell has a bigger role coming this season. There's no reason for him to be completing 46% of his passes. Yeah. With that type of receive receiving core with that office of line and with Jonathan Taylor in your backfield?

Well, listen, he might be better this year. You never know. You have a whole off season to work on things, work on the things you need to work on. Going into having another mini camp, another training camp up under your belt, you know, familiarity with the system you're in. I think in hoping, hoping this year he plays- Gotta put the time in. Yeah, you got in. I think I think in hoping hoping this year he plays. Gotta put the time in. Yeah you got to. I'm hoping he plays with a lot more confidence and he'll be fine. Gotta put it you gotta put the time in. Yeah gotta put the time in.

And if he does that remember we had we had Pittman on. Yeah. Who else we we talked to some people like like bro he he he can't be the first, you can't be the, the, the, the, the last one in and the first one to leave. It's gotta be the first. It's gotta be first. Yeah. Reverse. The first one in the last one to leave.

Not the last first, first last. Right. But hopefully, hopefully he gets it figured out because like I said, I think they got it. Look, that's a very competitive division. Oh yeah. You got, you got Houston CJ shroud. Houston go be, you got Lawrence. You're going to have cam ward in that division.

Well, look, if you go back and study it, don't you look at it. It's the quarterback league. Yeah. Look at the NFC East. Oh, look at the, look at the AFC. We'll look at the AFC West. What'd they have in the West? Look at these divisions. That'll tell you that's a- Look at the, look at the AFC, well look at the AFC West, what they have in the West. Look at these divisions.

AFC North. That'll tell you who's winning it. Yeah, yeah. Quarterbacks, cause that's what you gotta compete against. I know they're not on the field at the same time, but you have to match him. You can't like, oh, our defense gonna hold him.

If I throw for 170 yards, we gonna, no. You might win one or two games like that, but you're gonna have to match that production. Every time. So hopefully AR gets this thing figured out and get this thing turned around. Shadour Sanders met with the Pittsburgh Steelers today and was impressed by the visit.

He even said Mike Tomlin reminds him of his father, Coach Sanders. Steelers was great. I understand why they win so much. Why Mike Tomlin is the way he is. He resembles my dad a little bit. They have the same principles. Shador reportedly does not want to be taken

top three per NBC. I believe ideally he would like to go to New Orleans. I believe that's where he would really like to go. Of all places New Orleans? Yep. Can you explain why you would want to go to New Orleans? Just curious. You look at the receiver court they got. Chris Olave. Chris Olave. 22, what's the name? What's the name? The speed? Rashid? You should know. Um, yeah.

Rashid. She, yes. Yes. Yes. Yeah. Hey, that young bull can run boy. You hear me? Yep.

Yeah. He can run. The tight end of Juwan Johnson. Yeah. I think, I think that's the tight end. Um, Alvin Camaro is still there. Ooh, that's nice. That's nice.

Okay. Now you cooking. OK, now you're cooking. Now you're making sense. You're making sense to me. I just, I don't, he's not going to be there. What the Saints pick what? Nine. He ain't going to be. He's not going to be there at nine.

But here's the thing. He's not going to be there at nine. Once he gets past the top three, Ocho, nobody needs a quarterback. He's not getting. You're not taking him at Jack. He's not getting past the top three, Ocho, nobody needs a quarterback. He's not getting, you're not taking him at Jack. He's not getting past the top three. Ocho, Jacksonville's not gonna take a quarterback.

Tennessee needs a quarterback. The Giants need a quarterback. Tennessee take a camp ward. Tennessee has canceled, they canceled Shadoor, they canceled Travis Hunter. What does that tell you? They canceled the visit, they reached out to the agency we're gonna respectfully decline. Hopefully you guys understand. What does that tell you? They canceled the visit. They restarted the agency. We're going to respectfully decline.

Hopefully you guys understand. What does that tell you? Who are they taking? They're taking Ken Ward. And what happens if they pull a belly flop and then take Abdul Carter? You know, listen, you know how the NFL works. They had you thinking one thing and they do another. Let me ask you a question. Does Abdul Carter make them better right now?

Or does a quarterback makes them better? Remember we just talked about what do you need in that division? Quarterback. Quarterback. Yeah, absolutely. Lawrence Stroud, you said you believe Anthony Richardson is going to be better. Okay, you're right. You're Okay, you right, you right. But listen, you know what I look at? And I look at Abdul Carter and I see him similar to that of a Vaughn Miller,

similar to that of a Micah Parsons. Being able to change and impact the game tremendously, a play right now type of player, that's a good one. Because I'm not talking about just know any type of player. I see Abdul Carter as a transcending talent, a generational talent, similar to the two players that I just named. But Cam Ward, you're right.

You're right. You, you, you can't go against that. I believe, I believe they're going to, I believe they canceled all visits. Okay. If you've. Bless you. Bless you. It's hard for me to believe, Ocho, that you're gonna take a guy with the first overall pick and you don't have an individual meeting with him. Right. You right. Now, there might be a situation on down the line somebody going the first round and they're like, I didn't even meet with these guys. Right. But you talk about a top three pick and you don't meet with them?

Okay, you right. I'm not saying it can't happen. Right. But the likelihood, because guess what? Ocho, you know the first pick in the draft gets 40 to 45 million fully guaranteed. Oh yeah. His contract is fully guaranteed the first four years. It's fully guaranteed.

Yeah. Listen, I mean, listen, I'm wishing both of those young boys luck, obviously. Whether they get Abdul Carter, whether they get Cam Ward, Cam Ward's gonna be a tremendous, tremendous talent, you know, being able to carry over what he was able to do at UM and come into a program and not revitalizing them offensively. And they almost look like the U of O from the early 2000s, program and not revitalizing them offensively. And they almost look like the UFO from the early 2000s.

So I'm sure he's gonna do his due diligence in trying to revive the Tennessee Titans and some of the mistakes they've had to deal with with brother Will Levis and Malik Willis and some of those guys. It's been a miracle. Mo'wee look competent in Green Bay. He looks competent in Green Bay.

Very good, when Jordan Love was out. When Jordan Love was out, he was ballin'. Yes. But listen, it's easy to ball when you got Reed and Hicks and Watson and Romeo Dove and all those dudes around you. So. I like it. Tennessee has the first pick, Cleveland, the Giants, the Patriots,

Jacksonville, Vegas, Jets, Carolina, New Orleans, Chicago, San Francisco, Dallas. And it is so funny. We know the top three teams could use a quarterback. It seems Cleveland is leaning towards Travis or Abdul Carter. The question is, the Giants really controls it. What does the Giants do at three? They need a quarterback. They don't have a choice.

They don't have a choice. And not a quarterback to come in and play right now, a quarterback to sit behind Russell Wilson and James Winston and Danny Vito and learn the game. You need a quarterback for the future. You have two quarterbacks on one-year deals. You need a quarterback for the foreseeable future. Look, I've given Jackson, I've given Will Levers. Will Levers had Calvin Ridley and he had D-Hawk.

And he had number 85. I can't even pronounce his last name. They need a quarterback. Right. Damn. So I can see that. I can see them taking a quarterback, have him learn for a year with Russ. Russ did a one year deal.

I like it. Yeah. The Giants are going to be the key. Yeah. The Giants are going to be the key. You know what's funny? Is it funny? You just mentioned the draft order.

Ain't no telling what's going to happen the day of the draft. Ain't no telling what's gonna happen the day of the draft. Ain't no telling, there might be a player, there's someone that's picking seven, eight, or nine, and they sneak up and make sure they grab the actual individual I want, and it changes up everything on who and who goes where. True. That's possible.

That's very possible. We never know. We've seen that happen. Yeah. But, That's very possible. We never know. We've seen that. We've seen that happen.

Yeah. But, uh, um, it's going to be interesting. I think, I think for me, what are the odds? What are the odds? Uh, what's DraftKings giving us on, on, on Tennessee ticket, uh, camp war? They got, they got the odds out already. Oh yeah. Hell yeah. Wait, what, what is, what got the odds out already. Oh yeah. Hell yeah.

Wait, when is the draft? What date? I mean, April what? 24th. Okay. We still got two weeks. Okay. They don't have a notch yet?

That would be to say, well, it's kind of early. I'm thinking that, considering they see everybody on cancer, those workouts, they probably not gonna even give you no odds. Probably minus 2000. Does anybody have odds out? Draft King, y'all wanted to talk about, y'all need to put some odds out.

I'll chat like odds. Rowan, you a joker here? Hey, what's up, boy? Don't you talk to you. Come on down here to Miami, boy. I got plenty of room for you now. Hey, you see him, he buying TVs. He talking about what type of car should I get, should I get a McLaren. He taking food off your table.

I was just thinking about it, uncle. I was just thinking about it, you know, McLaren right here. But you ain't thinking about paying me. I would just think about it. I would just think about it You know McLaren right here, but you ain't think about paying me to her. No, I'm a pay. I told you I'm a pay You they demand the money the problem The money the problem I'm a pay you. Yeah Cam Ward been the first quarterback selected is minus 20,000.

Jesus. Thank you. Thank you. You'd pay a fool. Yeah. To take that. Right. So we shall see in a couple of weeks.

Oh yeah. So we shall see in a couple of weeks. Oh yeah. But I think the key is at three Ocho. Yeah. I think because I think Cleveland, I think Cleveland is going to take one of those defenders. What Abdul or Travis? Yep. Because you know what?

I can put Travis at wide receiver and pair him with Jerry Judy. Ooh, that's nasty. And have some packages for him at DB. Yeah. Can you imagine Denzel Ward on one side and Travis coming in. We got Greg Newsome. Greg Newsome and Travis coming in at the nickel

on certain, man. Yeah, put Newsome in the slot. Right. Let Trav. Go outside? on spell, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, we shall see, we shall see. I think the kids at the Giants at three, um, uh, New England not taking a quarterback. Jacksonville is not taking a quarterback. You knew it was not taking a quarterback. They just took a quarterback at three and they re they really liked this kid. A Brayville has been abundantly clear. One of the reasons he took the job, you know, they always say that because of the quarterback. No, it was a head coaching job and they gave you a lot of money.

That's where he took the job. But it sounds good at the time. Hey, I'ma rock with it. Right. My dog, my only one is shine, boy. Hey, I swear. I need to get you a podcast, come on. Come on.

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