Club Shay Shay - Nightcap - Hour 1: Mahomes sensational, Mahomes-Magic comparison, Saquon dominates

Episode Date: January 27, 2025

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson react to the sensational Patrick Mahomes, Andy Reid and the Kansas City Chiefs going for the 3-peat after a 32-29 win over Josh Allen and the Buffalo Bills in the AFC Championship game. Later, Unc compares Patrick Mahomes to Magic Johnson and the guys debate if Andy Reid is a top 3 coach of ALL TIME, Jalen Hurts, Saquon Barkley Barkley and the Philadelphia Eagles heading to the Super Bowl after beating Jayden Daniels and the Washington Commanders 55-23, setting a new record for the most points scored in an NFC Championship game and much more!04:00 - Show start04:30 - Intro07:10 - Chiefs vs Bills46:37 - Eagles vs Commanders(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Please go vote for your favorite uncle and nephew. Me, Ocho, the link is pinned in our social bios. Ocho, we got a barn burner. Chiefs beat the bills. 3229, Mahomes is now 4-0 against Josh Vailer in the playoffs. The Chiefs are on the cusp of a three-peat, something that no one thought was possible.

And with this victory, Patrick Mahomes now has 17 postseason wins. He breaks the tie with Joe Montana for the second most wins of all time. He's only trailing one Tom Brady who has 35 career playoff wins. Since Patrick Mahomes has become the starter, he came to start his second year Ocho, AFC Championship game, they lost in overtime.

Won the Super Bowl, lost the Super Bowl, lost in the AFC Championship game, won the Super Bowl, won the Super Bowl, back in the AFC Championship game, won the Super Bowl, won the Super Bowl, back in the Super Bowl again. Has there ever been a better start to a career in the history of the game? The only thing I can think is comparable, the only thing I can think is comparable is Magic Johnson.

Oh, that's the only thing, Ocho, that's the only thing, me, now look, I go back, so I'm a little older, I'm a little older than you, Ocho, but magic as a rookie, every true rookie won the title and was finals MVP. Didn't go back the next year. They want it again. He was finals MVP. They went back again.

They got swept. They went back again. They did for they lost. Yeah. No, they lost to the Rockets in before they went back again in 84, they lost. Yeah. No, they lost to the Rockets in 84. They went back again, they won in 85. They lost in 86, they won in 87 and 88. So the only thing I can think that can rival this, off the top of my head, and Ash just threw this up here,

the thing of trivia, and chat, y'all feel free to chime in. It'd better start to a career. Magic is right there with it because Magic has what? Three finals, MVP's, two records. He has three MVP's, but it would have to see go back to there. But no joke, Patrick Mahomes is sensational. I don't know what else to say. I don't either.

I don't know what else to say about him. You say it all the time. Everybody says all the time. When it comes to playing special in moments, when the game is on the line, when you absolutely need it, if there's somebody who would want to put the ball in their hands at a crucial time in the game, who else are you picking at the quarterback position out of everybody that's ever played outside of Tom Brady?

You got to because of the bones. I'm going with my home. I'm going home. Even with Brady. If I take him, if I take him at this point in time in their careers, I'm taking my home because of one thing, his legs. Yeah. You see that you see the two touchdown runs. You see the first down run. That's why I would take it because he can do everything. Brady, he can make every throw. He can make plays outside the pocket and that's not to look we know what Tom is I still believe Tom is the goal right now my home just passed because I had him tied with with our Joe Yeah, right now. I got him in second. Whoa. Whoa. I got a question now Boy, now we have to have a conversation chat

I had y'all got the y'all got to stay with me real quick Now we got to have a conversation, chat. Y'all got this thing with me real quick. Now we got to have a conversation when we talk about the GOAT, when we talk about the greatest quarterback of all time. If Mahomes is able to go to New Orleans, you hear me? If he's able to go to New Orleans to that Superdome and perhaps pull off a three-peat,

we got to have a conversation. We're gonna have a conversation, Ocho, but I don't think we can put him in front because he's still, even if he were to win, he's still three behind. Now let's just say for the sake of argument, he goes back to the four-peat, it's done. We ain't talking no more. Ain't nothing else to discuss. If Patrick Mahal, let's get past this, that you're going to have that discussion because

nobody else has ever done it. Nobody's ever done a three-peat in the Super Bowl era. Has there been teams that win championships? OK, yes. But we're talking about the Super Bowl. And when home, my home, because here's the thing, Ocho. Yes, sir. On third and four, most teams are going to run the ball, burn 34 seconds off, 35, 36 seconds off the clock.

That's not what Andy will do. We've seen Andy far too many times put Yeah. Put that ball in his hands. He said, son, I believe in you last year against the Baltimore Ravens. What did he do? He threw the ball to MBS 30 yards down the field. Andy is not going to sit on it. Oh, I'm gonna turn it back over to you to this. I had a conversation with you last week.

I said, Oh Joe, when Spagsfield threatened, what's he going to do? He's going to blow it up. When he felt threatened with Josh on farm down and he felt threatened, what he do? Hold on. Listen, listen, think about it. I want you to think about it. Spags waited until the right time for an exotic blitz. They hadn't seen all game.

Yep. All game. Spags sat on that. Like, think about that. When you talk about playing chess and you talk about playing checkers, you ain't blitz like that to that magnitude the entirety of the game, but you wait on the right moment to use that one exotic blitz and it got home. Tell me, he gonna blow it up. Anytime he feel, if you go back and study Spags, especially when he's been with Kansas City, when you threaten him, you get in his territory, and he feels the momentum, he's gonna come,

he's gonna give you zero coverage, what we call bomb blitz. He's looking to blow it up. And that's exactly what he did. Kinkade, I think he kind of lost it in the life, he misjudged it. Now, this is a... Because Josh still...

Excuse me, excuse me, Chad. Josh still made a hell of a throw to throw it off his back foot. Give Karloff this credit, because he didn't drive him into the ground. He was close, he hit him, let him go. Let him go. I ain't gonna get no foul on this play.

Oh, Joe. You know, you know, you know, can't catch that ball. You know that we talk about something totally different now, right? Because we're, now they might get a touchdown, but I'm not begging to get, because you best try to get a touchdown and you lead 35, 40 seconds on the clock and they got two timeouts. I ain't betting against my home run.

Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Listen, we've seen them do it before. We see. We saw him get the field goal range with 13 seconds. Yeah. Josh is probably thinking, what the hell do I got to do to beat this man? Yeah. It's got to be right now.

What happened? What was that, last year? What happened last year is that somebody beat him. And oh, Kansas City went to Buffalo and beat him. He's like, damn, I just can't beat this man in the postseason. I wanted home field, I got it. He come to my house, kick my ass.

I go to his house, he kick my ass. So can I go, I need to go to another conference and play on the soubo. And then maybe I just get to the soubo like that and I see him in the soubo. Because he keep beating my tail before I get to the big dance. Listen, we are, we are in for a treat. We are in for a treat. If you, if you have, if you have a AFC team, if you're a bangles fan, a Ravens fan, a bills fan or a cheese fan. And I'm trying to think what other teams might be in contention.

We don't, this is going to be for the next decade. Oh, it's going to be a joy to watch for the next decade. Those four quarterbacks go at it and see who ends up in the AFC championship. And, but they got, they got to knock the, they got to knock the big man down. They got to knock him down. You got to knock down the big Domino. You got to knock him down and they've done a great job. He's taking less money.

Ocho, he's supposed to be the first six, he's supposed to have got $60 million five years ago. He's saying, nah, I'm good with this. He's supposed to have got 60, $70 million now. He's saying, no, I'm good with this. He's supposed to have got 60, 70 million dollars now. He said, no, I'm good with this. He said, because I need CJ. I need y'all to have some money because McDuffie's going to come up, and I'm going to need y'all to pay him.

But I also need y'all if some of these free agent wire receivers become available and we can get them on the low, I'm going to need you to get them. You see, he's like at the end of the day, he's going to have enough money. And Tom realized that. Tom's like, bro, when the day, he's gonna make way, he's gonna have enough money. And Tom realized that. Tom's like, bro, when you got that kind of money, Ocho, you get what they call acquisition.

So, hey, bro, I got this big deal coming out for you. Hey, check this out. Don't nobody know about it. 250, I'll let you get in. I give you a percentage. I just read today that Jeff Bezos bought $250,000 worth of Google stock before it came available. Now that's about three million shares. Go Google Google and see how

many three million shares is. When you got that kind of money, people are like well damn, how guys got that kind of money the next thing you know they was making 50 million, had 100 million and now they at 500, they had a billion. Ta-da! I ain't telling you what somebody told you. Tell me. I know. And you know, you got to think about it too. Also people in the chat, you have to understand everybody's not as fortunate.

Everybody in the situations like that. Most of the time, most quarterbacks in the situation, you don't have the revenue or the stream of revenue and income off the field. No. So Tom Brady, Tom Brady was different. Tom Brady can take a home team discount, you know. And he had a wife. He had a wife that's making $40, $40, $30 million a year.

So it's different. It offsets what you're not getting from the team. Correct. Then you think about, you think about passing the homes, sponsors, endorsements, coming off the field. So the pay cut that you're taking to allow Andy Reed and the Hunts to build a team around you so that you can compete and be in contention year in and year

out, you make it up for it anyway. Yeah. And the Hunts have already said, don't worry about it. You never going to have to worry about anything. Cause guess what? After next year, they're gonna tear it up again. You know what they gonna do? They gonna give you more upfront.

More upfront, that's what they do. So it doesn't hurt the cat and you're gonna be all right. And you see him, the MLS team, he invested in that. I think he got a piece of the Royals, invested in that. So when you have money, Ocho, if you have money and you're a good person, you're not a jerk, people will want, hey, check this out, we're getting ready to start an MLS team, when we get ready to buy this MLS team, we'd love for you to go in with us.

We just want your name, gonna call you X. Oh really? Call your financial people, see if it's real on the up and up. Boom, there you go, that's how it happens. But I thought Josh played really well. He did. And Ocho, I told you. I don't need him to be Superman. The one thing he didn't do, see, I thought the game was about to get out of hand until Patrick Mahone's former that ball

and gave Buffalo life. I thought that game was about to get out of hand, Ocho. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. I thought it was about to get out of hand. I said, oh Lord have mercy. And then Buffalo give Buffalo credit they made cause they came out in the second half, Ocho and I don't know if you agree with me or not.

It seemed like they made a concerted effort to run the football. Yeah. James Cook, Josh Allen. I forget the, hold on, let me look at. Davis, Davis. Davis, Johnson. I thought they'd say, you know what?

Let's run the football. They're playing the soft cover. They try to kind of try to play us with nickel, a four, two, five. Let's run the football. They're playing in soft coverage. They try to kind of try to play us with nickel, a 4-2-5. Let's run the football. Yeah. And they started running the football and Cook started having some success. Johnson had a, uh, had a run or two, but Kansas City.

I mean, I really don't know what you have to, what you say about my homes because every play that he made, that he had to make, he found Juju about to get, he, he slings it to Juju and Juju breaks away. Yeah. Buffalo credit kept him out of the end zone on that one. But guys, I don't, listen. Pochka, let's go in, let's go, the elephant in the room. OK, come on.

On that fourth down call. Everybody said, well, he got it. Guys, I'm trying to figure out, and I was asking myself, how does the guy on the far side of the field, with all those bodies, Right. says he's got it, when the guy right here closest to him said no. No, yeah. Yeah.

Here's the thing, Ocho. He has the ball like this. Yeah. The ball is not over the line. Line, yeah. Just because your shoulder is where the ball is. But the ball didn't break the plane. Yeah, at all.

He didn't break the plane. And the smart thing you want to do, most people say, why you don't extend the ball? Man, you extend the ball in them trenches like that? It's coming- You see, he's farmed one of them. You see, he farmed a- He got it back.

Yeah, but when he jumped over the pile, it can't go back to him. Now you got lucky there. That's not it, because here's the difference, Ocho. In the goal line, once you break the plane, it's dead. In the field of play, it's alive. It's still alive. You go over and they push that ball out

and they get it, that's their ball. So there's a big difference between the two, between the goal line and the line that's in the line of play that's in field, the line of scrimmage. But I didn't think he got it. And when I looked at it in real time, I said, he didn't get it. He didn't. But obviously he didn't. People will argue the goal think he got it. And when I looked at it in real time, I said, he didn't get it. He didn't.

Well, obviously he didn't. People will argue the call, talk about it. Yeah. But where the ball is, it's really like you have the ball touching to your chest, and you not pass a line. If anything, you would have to extend it for you to get the first down.

Yes. You can't do that in that scenario in the trenches like that, in that sprung. You just can't. He didn't want to. The thing is, Ocho, he didn't want to fumble it, in the trenches like that, in that sprung. You just can't. He didn't wanna, the thing is, Ocho, he didn't wanna fumble it. No, no, no, no. So he had the ball, he held it tight,

cause he know guys go, and so in the process of holding it tight, now they got you wrapped up. So now you can extend it, Ocho, cause I got my arms around you, and I won't let you do this. Right, and what you wanna rely on, you wanna rely on your teammates,

and your offensive players to kind of push you forward. Yes. Obviously the momentum will stop and the team. They got to stop. Yeah. They weren't having it. Man, that was a good game though, man. That was a good game. Worthy, Worthy, Schold, he got better and better as the year progressed. Yeah. Filling in for Rashid Rice. Hollywood Brown was gone. Hollywood came back, had a couple of big catches today. Juju came in, had two catches. He only had three targets. He had another one, Mahomes overshot him in the middle of the field and he jumped.

He overshot him, Mahomes overthrew him. But Hollywood had a big catch. Kelsey was relatively quiet. They did a great job. I wanna, they probably didn't think, I thought Hamlin held, I mean, looking at the all 22 at the high above, I thought Hamlin held him several times.

They didn't call it. Yeah. I mean, with the refs, they allowed them to do, they allowed them to play football. They did. They allowed them to play a little bit today. You muted Ocho. Yeah, you muted. Well, Ocho was muted. Boy, this was a good game.

I think, look, I understand that Buffalo, if you're a Buffalo fan and you didn't win, I can understand your disappointment. Hello, hello? Yep, you're back, Ocho. Okay, yeah, I did, I could understand your disappointment. Hello, hello? Yep, you back, Coach O. Okay, yeah, I did, I was switching. I wanted to switch to the mic so I could use the mic because I'm tired of hearing the damn echo.

Now I was saying, if, well, as far as the holding calls are going, now, what I did like about the refs, the refs are loud enough to play football. We're gonna lie to play football. Now the holding calls or the passing interference calls, now they did call if it was egregious and you were impeding the player from getting to a spot. And they should have.

You gotta call some of those. Yeah, you got to, you should have. Yeah. The one on McDuffie, yeah, it was a PI. Yeah. But you can't, Josh Allen couldn't throw that ball any better. No, no, no.

McDuffie couldn't have any better cover to touchdown. The one to Mac Hollins. Yes, yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that was nice. That was nice. Also, Hollins stuck his hand up because basically what's called him had his other arm. He stuck it up and the ball's like, whoo.

Mm-hmm. That was perfect. That was a good catch. That was a very good catch. That was a great catch. What'd they have? 147 rush yards, basically almost 4 and a half yards to carry. The one thing about Kansas City, see, Kansas City, Ocho, I thought they let the game

kind of almost get away from them. They started running it on first down. Well, what happens when you run on first down and you don't get positive yards, now it's second and long. Now you, or second, and they got trapped behind the line a couple of times. So now it's second and long. Yep. Now you, or second and they got a couple, they got trapped behind the line a couple of times. So now it's, uh, it's second and long. Now Buffalo dials the blitz up on you.

Yep. Now they trap you. Now it's third and long. Right. You get a, you get a procedure penalty. Now it's even third and longer. There. Yeah.

If you see what happened, they went back and says, uh, man, let's go back. Throw it on first down. Because if you think about it, until they open the game, they throw it in the first, the first blue. They got this, the new formation, you know, Andy, Andy come out for a couple of plays that you haven't seen him do before. Uh, but man, this was an unbelievable game. I, I expected it to be what I got.

I expected Buffalo to play tough. I expected Kansas City to win a very, very close game because it come down to turnovers. Now they got one and they turned it into points. Josh fumbled the ball, but he was able to jump back on it. Back on it. I feel, I want to say feel bad. I don't want to say feel sad, but for Buffalo fans, for Buffalo fans, if you're a Bills

fan, like you just, you have to be happy in a sense. Obviously you weren't able to make it to the Super Bowl, but every year you're going to have a chance. And if you keep chopping wood, at some point, at some point, you got to beat the man and you're probably going to beat the man. This just hasn't been your year. You continue to get closer, closer and closer and closer. And at some point it you gotta beat the man, and you're probably going to beat the man. This just hasn't been your year. You continue to get closer and closer and closer, and at some point, it's gonna happen.

I don't know when. With the way the Chiefs are playing, with the way my home is playing, I don't know when that will happen. And Andy ain't going nowhere. No. Andy's rejuvenated, Andy's invigorated, because they keep Andy young.

Right. Andy was in Green Bay with my brother. And so I know Ray and my brother, thanks to the world of him, he used to go to the Pro Bowl and his wife would come to the bar and sit down and have a drink with us and laugh and talk. They're great people. But this situation right here, at some point in time, we're going to start mentioning Andy as a top three, four.

All time? Coach of all time. All time? Yeah. All time. At some point in time we're gonna start mentioning Andy as a top three four. All time? Coach of all time. All time? Yeah. All time? All time. You look at what he did in Philly.

Yeah. You look at what he's doing now. There's a chance in the next two years Andy can have 300 regular season wins. Ooh. Yes. Three tops. And how old is Andy? 66.

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At mid. At mid if he wanted. I'm not saying he's going to coach my home for the next decade, but I'm saying he got it if he wanted right I'm not saying he's gonna beat he's gonna coach my home for the next decade But I'm saying he got it. Yeah, if you wanted. Mm-hmm So what's the likelihood of my home not winning at least 10 games? They got 17 games, I don't see a scenario where my home dips under 10 I can see he's gonna win somewhere between 11 and 14 games a year for the foreseeable future Now this thing about this notion,

and see, this is why you got to capture the moment. You believe Josh, you believe Lamar. Go keep knocking on that door and he gonna get there. So if he gets there, that means, guess what? Josh and not. You say, Joe Burrell, you believe he go, that means Lamar and Josh is not gonna get there. So at some point in time, you can only have one and you got Mahomes, you got Lamar and Josh is not going to get there. Right. So at some point in time, you can only have one and you got my homes.

You got Lamar, you got Joe Burrow. Yeah. You got Josh Allen. Now those are your four big guns. Those are the four horsemen of the AFC. Yes, sir. Now you got some guys that's on the, on the, on the peripheral. You got a Justin Herbert.

I believe they'll be better. John Hop, a Jim Harbar, this first year, got them to the playoffs. He's right there. Bo Nicks is right there. So you got, so, but you got the four, you got the four Kings, the four horsemen in the AFC. Mahone Boy, Lamar, Burrow, and Josh Allen. Right.

And you, and here's the thing that you got, Ocho. At some point in time, you're not going to be able to dodge them all. You're going to have to knock one of them off in order to get to where you want to go. You're not going to be lucky and have somebody else, well man, somebody knocking out my homes and then somebody knocked out Burrell and then somebody knocked out Allen and then somebody knocked out this one and somebody knocked, and you got smooth, say uh-uh, uh-uh. You're gonna have to see one of those four horsemen

for the next decade. If you want to go, if you wanna get to where you want to go, you're gonna have to beat one of them, Mojo. You know, it's gonna be exciting. It's gonna be an exciting next 10 years, you know? Obviously, I'm looking forward to my bangles getting there again. I'm looking forward to Joe Burrow. Now, we do what we need to do in fixing that defense.

You know what you need to do. We... Oh, definitely. Hey, can you hear me okay? Yeah. You sure? Huh? Okay, okay, I'm good now. Okay, okay. No, I'm just doing regular season wins.

Yes, he has 301 when you combine the post season, but I'm just talking regular season win. He's at 273. I think Coach Shula has the most regular season wins at what, 328. Mm-hmm. Then Coach Belichick, oh, Coach Y'all challenge is 330, right? 323?

318. 302. Oh yeah. Coach Belichick better hear him come back, Andy gonna be passing. Yeah. Yeah. It could be a situation next year,

Andy could be at what 285? Next three years, within the next three years, Ocho, he's going over 300. Yeah, most definitely. He's going over 300. Most definitely. Most definitely. Where's Belichick at? He's number three at 302, right?

302. That's dope. Now, Andy's like, you know what? He talked to the wife and she's like, Andy, you have in front of you is keeping you young. State, he must rather stay as long as Billachick had braided. Right. Well, we're going to have to have a conversation. Hey, he best rather have 400 wins. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. Yeah, 400 wins. It'll

never be broken. Absolutely. But you know what? Also with that, you need so many things to go right. Health. Health. Yes. On the field. On field health. My homes. Staying healthy. Yep. The pieces to that puzzle, there's gonna always change no matter what. It's gonna always change, but God, Lee, boy. That 15 make everything go, boy. Jesus Christ, he's special. Another champion bulls playoff heartbreak history,

wide right against the Giants, Super Bowl 25. Low out losses in three Super Bowls. The 2022 overtime thriller in Kansas City. Buffalo led with 13 seconds. They get in field goal range, kick the field goal, and then Mahomes takes them down the field, and they don't look back. They never let them, Buffalo touched the ball.

He hits Travis Kelsey, walk up touchdown. Wide right 2.0, the same team last year in the playoffs, Ocho, in their building. And then you have Dalton Kincaid dropping Kansas City, a brutal run of events. It's like, bro, what's hanging over us? You're just going against that guy. How many people said the same thing about Brady?

But if you go back and study Brady, for the most part, he got tripped up by guys. Now, he lost to Peyton. Now, Peyton is not a guy. Peyton beat him three times in the AFC Championship, beat him once in the NBA, beat him twice in Denver. But if you go back and look at Nick Foles, Joe Flacco,

Eli, and Tani Hill, who would have ever thought, Jake, who would have ever thought those guys would be, the guy, so it's like, think about it. You thinking like, who beat my homes? Tom Brady. Who else got him in the playoffs? Joe Burrow. Joe Burrow, yeah.

So it's gonna be, it's gonna, it's's bad man I was watching this game and it's just you know, I'm saying don't show you watch a game and right When a game lives up to what you expect. Yeah. Well, actually not only did it live up to we expected it exceeded my expectations as well Yeah, it exceeded that because it went down to the wire. It went down to the wire. Dan went down to the wire. If all the games do don't show some reason. Do you notice that? Yeah.

Do you know what is one of their games and one position games? I don't want none of my homes because they were like 18, 19 straight. One position games. Hey, you get them in a one possession game, and now he has the ball and he needs a field goal to beat you or he needs a touchdown to beat you. More times than not. Or he needs to stay on the field

so you don't get the ball back. You see what he did today? It was, he had the lead. He's like, I ain't gonna let y'all get the ball back. Hey Baltimore, you know, hey, you see Lamar give his helmet on last year? He getting ready to go back because they're about to make a stand.

Uh-uh. Andy called a play. Andy said, no, I'm not throwing it to no damn flat. Throw the ball down the field. Field, yeah. How many quarter, how many coach quarterback combinations you think in that situation? I ain't talking about the regular season, when tomorrow,

I'm talking about with the finality of the playoffs. Theality of the playoffs. How many quarterbacks have you ever seen put the ball up 30 yards down the field? None. But you also, you know what? That's trust. That's trust. The head coach has to have trust in the quarterback to know if the throw is not there, don't throw it. But if it is there, I trust you to be able to make that play and not turn the ball over. to be able to make that play and not turn the ball over. And if you go back and look, look at the play that they picked up. I thought, I thought Pacheco got down a little bit out of it. I didn't see the replays, but I thought he, he tried to get the first down and try to get down. They said he stepped out.

But if you look at what they did, they brought P-Ryant in. P-Ryant is really the receiver back. Right. They crossed him, they shoot him up, break him out in the flat. Now, whoever got him got to go over the top. Oh good they got a bubble around. That's all that's all that's all. All you got to do is make him

bubble. If you make him bubble you've done your job. Game over. Game over. Mahomes hits him, he gets the first down, stays in bounds. At that point in time once he got the first down it was over. It didn't matter if he went out of bounds or not. Yeah. But he did a great job of staying in bounds. But when you look at what point in time, once he got the first down, it was over. It didn't matter if he went out of bounds or not. But he did a great job of staying in bounds. But when you look at what he was at, what Mahomes has been able to do. Now, mind you guys, I don't think people understand this. He didn't start his rookie year. He started one game.

He started one game. So in seven years, this is the seventh year, this is the seventh year of starting. This is eighth year. Yes. This is the seventh year. This is the seventh year of starting. This is eighth year. Huh? Yes.

In seven years of starting, AFC championship, one Super Bowl, lost Super Bowl, lost AFC championship, one Super Bowl, one Super Bowl, in the Super Bowl. That's crazy. He don't know anything else but AFC championships or Super Bowls.

That's all he knows. He don't know what it's like to lose a wild card or division. That's all he knows. And so't know what it's like to lose a wild card or division. That's all he knows. And so now it's kind of like Brady. Once you get used to playing high stakes poker, your nerves and the stomach that you have for those moments is not the same as everybody else.

Sometimes you become desensitized. We say that a lot now because of what we see happening in America. We become desensitized. Desensitized to it, that a lot now because of what we see happening in America, we become desensitized. Desensitized to it, yeah. He becomes... Oh Joe, the biggest advantage you could have over another man is his fear.

That's the biggest advantage you could have. Right. They know when they see one five in a pressurized moments is unlike anything they've ever faced before. And because he's been in that moment so many times, it's like normal. It's like Brady. It's like Brady had been in that moment so time at a very young age. You see Brady's first year starting championship, went to Superbowl next year. They don't do anything.

And then they go back to back. Now he desensensitizing that. He's built up a tolerance. And you know what's funny? I think a lot of people, I think that also comes from where a lot of people complain about, oh man, they'd be cheating, they'd be cheating for the cheese, blah, blah, blah. The fact that they win so much.

The fact that they're in contention so much. The fact that Mahomes would be able to do what he's done in such a short amount of time. You know, it's taken away from his greatness in itself when people are caressing to it. Now, I, again, sometime at certain opportune times, maybe call them do go their way. But the greatness in Mahomes needs to be not only studied, but paid a little bit more attention to, to understand why they are where they are year in and year out. It ain't got nothing to do with no goddamn refs. Now, some people might have some gripes, there might be certain situations that might go in their favor, but that goddamn 15-on, man, he's special, man.

The difference between him, what you got to do with him and Brady and Joe, is that a lot of teams have great quarterbacks and they win a lot of regular season games. But when they get the moments like this, that's what made Joe, Joe cool. That's what made Montana that he's down and he needs to go 92 yards and win. And he does that Jerry, Jerry's playing great. And then they won two on the jet X land and he hit John Taylor on the backside. Yep.

But you got to get a little break. Lewis Billings has an interception and he drops it. Maybe we don't look at Joe in the same. Joe won four Super Bowls and he never threw an interception on the Super Bowl. So when you look at it, Ocho, it's one thing to have a great quarterback and win a lot of games.

Yes, sir. It's another thing to have a quarterback who win win a lot of games. Yes, sir. It's another thing to have a quarterback who win games and when they get to moments like this, this is what separates him and Brady and Joe. 17, he's only like, hold on, one, two, three. He's only like, he's seven, 13 and three. Three, 17 and three, yeah. And 20 playoff starts with three Super Bowls.

And you know what's funny? When you say them numbers, right? We ain't talking about no goddamn video game. We talking about real life. We talking about the best of the best. We talking about the one percenters. The best of the best, 17-3. You've been to the AFC Championship seven years in a row. They're 32 other teams.

This man is about to go to his Ocho. Do you realize this man is about to be in his fifth Super Bowl in seven years of starting? Can I tell you something? Can I tell you something? If you play video games, I'm just giving you for context. If you played Madden and let's say you were really good, you were really good, and you were competing against some of the best players in the world

in the game of Madden, you couldn't replicate what Mahomes is doing. No. You couldn't replicate it. Even as one of the best gamers in the world. It might be a horrible analogy, but there's some people in the chat that might understand what I mean.

Yes. To how good Mahomes is, and what he's doing, and how it's unreal. You're not supposed to chat that might understand what I mean. Yes. To how good Mahomes is and what he's doing and how it's unreal. You're not supposed to be able to do what you do. And you know what's funny? People gonna look at this and say, well, the Chiefs are able to do it all the time. And think it's normal.

That ain't easy. They think it's normal. They think it's supposed to happen like this. Shh. No. bad please. You know what? When you play this game, as long as you and I have, and I've had a little success,

you realize like, damn, I was better cheating compared to them. Bro, I know you happy my homes once. Oh, my dog have my dog. Titus. Come on. What up, twin? Bro, I shift you in the room.

How did you get out of the room? That's what I want to know. What up, twin? Who you rooting for? You want to be the Cleveland Browns mascot, they don't win. But they throw plenty of dog bones. So I don't want no dog bones. So I eat farmer's dog.

I eat nutritious food. They got peas, they got chicken, beef. Yes, turkey. Man, this joker here. Man, oh, I mean, guys, I mean. Off, off, hey. Down, hey. down, down. Chad, I don't know, I don't really, I don't think you guys really, really understand

what you're witnessing. Think about that. I want you to think, I want you to think about it. If great as Brady was, think about Brady, Brady his first, because when Brady won his first three, there was a decade plus before he ever went back. Yeah. He's won three and he's already back. It's crazy. Do y'all, do y'all understand guys get an appreciation.

Don't be talking to, and look, because what you do, if you keep talking about refs, you're under value and you won't be appreciative of what you're witnessing. Yeah, from him. You watched football for years. Right. I played with Joe and Dan and John and Manning and Brady and all the greats, a lot of the greats

that made that all-century team. Yeah. I played in the era with them. Damarino, John Elway, Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, Brett Favre, Joe Montana. That's six of the ten guys that made that team, I played in the era in which they played in SOA. What this kid is doing, y'all don't appreciate it.

Because you're so caught up in talking about they getting... No, no. You can't get enough calls in order to get to five Super Bowls in seven years. Because if you could, why didn't anybody else do it? Yeah. Yeah. If it was that, if all it was were calls, why haven't anyone else ever done what he's doing?

And of course, you know, people, people counter would be, well, the calls are in their favor because it's the Chiefs. Well, the call they're in their favor because, oh, the NFL wants, oh, it's scripted, they want the Chiefs to always go. Listen, I don't think people, you can't undermine on how undermine not only the success of the Chiefs, but the brilliant mind that is Andy Reid...

Yes. ...in the play of Goddamn 15 in Paschema Homes. You know, even I sometimes, even I sometimes, I question some of the calls. I just do because at times they come in, they come, hey, what up, what up, what up Teddy? They come at the opportune times and for some time, for some reason at times they're in favor of the chiefs.

No, even I am critical of that at times. And I've been wrong, especially when I broke it down statistically and look at the stats. You know, where the refs aren't in favor of the Chiefs because they're at the bottom of the goddamn league when it comes to getting calls. But you know what, Ocho? You know why it looks like that?

Because at the most opportune time when somebody's beat, then what do they teach you to do? Hold it. Grab him. Just don't give up a touchdown. Yeah. Okay. I ain't gonna give you no touchdown. I'm gonna make you earn it. Now, you might fumble, ball bite,

get tipped, and throw an interception. You make it seem like they're throwing, they're not like, hey, ain't nobody getting no holding calls when they down 15. Mm-mm. It's a crucial situation. And the defense understand the gravity of the moment. And so in order for me to make sure they don't score, I've got a hole. I've got a passing affair. That's what it is. But guys, y'all got to appreciate this

because you might not see it again. And we thought what we saw with Brady, especially his first years, but think about it, after 2005, he didn't go back again until 2013, 2014. So there was a decade. Mahomes has been in the league seven years and he's in his fifth Super Bowl. Do y'all really understand how, think about, there's only one other guy that's never been in that many Super Bowls. And that's Tom. In 23 years, he's been in five and seven. That's crazy. That's crazy. Do you understand how hard it is?

That's video game type stuff. And I don't, it's video game type stuff. And I don't even think you can replicate it in a video game. No, you can't. So, uh, this is what Josh said to be the champs. You got to beat the champs. And we didn't do that tonight. Um, Ocho, yeah, Shaft's going crazy right now.

We've got 84,000. We're going to try to get to 90. We will try to get to a hundred. So tell your friends. Through the first seven seasons as a starter, Tom Brady was 14 and 3. Patrick Mahomes is 17 and 3. AFC titles, Mahomes 5. Brady 4.

Super Bowls 3. Brady 3. MVPs in the Super Bowl. Mahomes, three. Brady, two. MVP's in the regular season, two for Mahomes, zero for Brady. So at the present, where they are now is really,

and you go look at the touchdowns that Mahomes has thrown versus Brady in the, it's unbelievable. I just, I'm glad I got an opportunity to see, I'm glad I got to Brady, cause I didn't think anybody could even come close, but Lord have mercy, this kid might even surpass it. And for us to even have a conversation about it,

tells you speaks to how great he was. Oh, chill, but there was another game. So the team that the Kansas City Chiefs will face in the Super Bowl are the Philadelphia Eagles. And they crushed the Washington Commanders 55 to 23, setting a new record for the most points scored in an NFC Championship game.

It's the fifth time the Eagles have made the Super Bowl and their second appearance in the last three years. The only trial came in 2017. Saquon. 118 rush yards and three touchdowns. Let me tell you something, right? Let me tell you how I knew Saquon meant business. When they ran the ball on the first drive,

and the safety came down, hold on, the back of the back of the move that they got for something. I'm like, how you getting washed? How you getting washed like that? Saquon bounces outside, then the safety coming downhill. He arm tackling. He arm tackling. He ran through that. I'm like, what do you do? He ran right through that, went and scored, and his lineman came to celebrate and he looked at his lineman and said, nah, we ain't doing none of that. Ain't none of that. Just shake my hand.

And went to the sideline. I said, man, you know what? Boy, the game over. The game is over. Oh yeah. The game is over based on he really meant business about it. He really meant business today. I'm coming here with one sole purpose.

I'm from the runner ball straight down the eighth hole and he set the tone right off jump. Now the commanders has him opportunities to play some good ball, but you four turnovers. They scored on, got points on all of them. All of them. You can't win like that. You can't win like that. You just can't. There's nothing you can do. Jaden Daniels, as good as he's been all season long. Phenomenal play.

He's been great. In a game like that, in order to have a chance, you can't turn the ball over. Special teams, it hurts you. Yeah. Because they score the touchdown and guess what? They kick it off to you and you give right back to them to get another one. Another one back to back. So that means not only that it puts the pressure and to put the onus on the offense and Jane Dambs. Now you got to play perfect, damn near perfect football.

You got to play damn near perfect football and it makes it impossible for you to do so. You can't beat yourself. No. You can't beat yourself. That's exactly what the commanders did. They beat themselves. Yeah. I mean, careless turn on me. You get the ball punched out.

You run into the back of the guy and the ball comes out and you know, Eckler gets the ball. He gets up and boom. Yeah. Punches it out, he gets a punch down and then Jayden threw a pick late in the ball game in the end zone. Michael made a great interse-

Yeah. What's his name, Ojo? The DB? Oh, Mitchell. Kion, Kion. Yeah, he makes a great interception on that play. But when you turn the ball over against a team like this in their building

and they're fighting pretty much on all cylinders because you look at, you look at Jaylen Hurts, 20 of 26, 246 a touchdown, then put the ball in harm's way. They ran the ball 36 times for 229. You see the difference? You see the difference? You see the difference? Hey Baltimore, hey Baltimore,

at some point in time Todd Monkey, y'all gonna learn y'all lesson. You see what they do? You see what they do, even when he get hit in the backfield. You see what they do? Keep running it. You know what else I like though,

you know what I like about today? I like the fact that they ran the ball, right? Yeah. And even I've been arguing about, you know, the passing game. Jalen Hurts, get the ball to A.J. Brown, you know? Just give him a shot, even when you see one on one. You know, anticipate.

If you see one on one, and you see the safety in the middle of the field, you don't have to haul the ball away for him to get open. Even if he's even, that's A.J. Brown. You trust him. You know, you throw the ball up to him, that ain't 50-50 even, that's AJ Brown. You trust him. You throw the ball up to him, that ain't 50-50 with Young Bull.

That ain't 50-50 with him, that's 70-20. He coming down with that nine times out of 10. Nine times out of 10, so the first time there was a blitz that came and he held the ball waiting to see if he was gonna beat Latimore. It didn't work, They put in the ball. They got the ball back. The very next series is fourth and the five down.

I saw the play. That might've been Jalen's best throw. That might've been one of his best throws of the year. He can't throw it any better. Perfect in the bucket. There you go. You give somebody like that. You give somebody like that a chance.

Just give him a chance. Put the ball in the vicinity, put it in the area. He gonna come down with it nine times out of 10. One of them Santa Claus throws, he dropped it down the chimney. Yes sir. Other than that, the game was brilliant. It was brilliant on both sides of the ball,

special teams, Jaylen played well, Saquon did what Saquon was gonna do. He set the goddamn tone at the beginning of the game. Absolutely. Set the tone at the beginning of the game. I knew what time it was. And because he did that, now I'm throwing a one-on-one coverage because I gotta get down. I can't guard this guy with a light box.

You gotta come down in the box. You ain't got no choice. I can't. I can't. I can't stop it. I got a question for you. I got a question for you. Listen, Spags loves to play two-shell. Spags rarely has somebody down in the box. So what's gonna happen? Are we gonna trust my front four to get home? You're gonna have to.

Or you take- Or you take- Or you take- I mean, I don't think they have, they don't have, they don't have any qualms with putting the Duffy on Brown and then playing coverage everywhere else. They won't bat an eye. Okay, I see what you mean. They won't bat an eye with that matchup. I see what you mean. They don't, they don't, they, they won't bat an eye. Okay. I see what you mean.

They won't bat an eye with that matchup. Right, right, right, right, right. But the thing is that the tight ends can give Kansas City problems and they got a good one in Garter. Oh yeah, absolutely. Now Calcaterra, he's more of a blocker, but he can make some plays. Right. He can't.

They don't throw him the ball much. He's more of a blocker. The, uh, the receiver guy is Dallas Garter. He can make some plays. He can't. They don't throw him the ball much. He's more of a blocker. The receiver guy is Dallas Goddard. And, was he the one that threw, who threw the touchdown pass to Nick Foles on Philly Special? It wasn't Goddard though, was it?

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you were spag, do you go small? Hell, can I go nickel? Can I go nickel? They'll run you off the field. Huh? They'll run you off the field. I'm talking about on third downs though. Trey Burton, okay. I mean, no, you can't play them nickel

because they'll run you off the field, Ocho. They ain't got no problem running the football now. See, sometimes teams get can't wait. I got a quarterback I'm paying $50 million. I need to throw. I need to show you how valuable he is. That's not what the Eagles do. Eagles ran the ball 36 times today.

36 for 229. I would love to see the Chiefs. I don't know how the Chiefs stack up against the run. I would love to see the Chiefs. I don't know how the Chiefs stack up against the run. I would love to see those numbers. They put you on a situation, I'll tell you what, where you really can't run the football because you're playing catch up.

So that's their run defense, is to try to make you catch up. Now, the question is, because Philly likes to play two shell, because they believe their front four and their front Zach Braun is playing out of his mind. He's a real deal. He playing out of his mind.

A real deal. And that front four that they got led by Jalen. Matter of fact, speaking of Braun, you know what? When you got Jalen Carter and you got, what's young bull, what's young bull name? Oh, Nolan Smith? No, number 90, number 90. You got them two boys.

Oh, Jordan Davis. Jordan Davis. You got them two young boys in front of you? Man, listen. But them thing's part to see like Moses. If you got any bit of talent at that middle back, man, the show is yours. Yeah, they got their real, they're formidable.

Say, I bet, if St. Quentin's like, hold on, hey Nick, will y'all stop running that tush push? Man, let me get these toes. All these touchdowns? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, what you call them, Hurts got three of them,

got two of his touchdowns. St. Quentin's supposed to have five toes. Five touchdowns, yeah, today. Five. That's what I be like, I be trying to get history. Hey, come on, man, hey, let's get out of that touch push. You know what, stuff like that, stuff like that too. I'm not for,

I'm not for going against coaches wishes, but in times like that, I wish Jalen had a little bit more It's a hey. power or call of the offense. Like, you know how Peyton Manning would be, they'll sit him on the sideline, he'll say, nah, I'm not doing that. And he'll do his own thing. And it always worked.

I wish Jalen would do that. So in situations like that, you know Saquon has the opportunity to make history, I would change the play to some type of dive or just something direct where he can get those touchdowns as opposed to the close push. Cause on that run, man, I saw him, I was like, oh, bad Saquon, you gonna regret going down

into one yard line. Cause they about to go, they about to get his ball, they about to get his ball to Hertz and he about to pile with wearing the end zone. Oh Joe, with his ninth rush TD, Hertz passed Steve Young for the most all-time rushing touchdowns by a quarterback in NFL history. That's a liar. After three straight encroachment penalties on Washington trying to stop the tush push,

guess what happened? The official said, if you continue this we can award points Because as a oh Joe what you gonna do put the ball in the end zone right? This is the yep, you jump outside one more time. That's exactly what we gonna do We will put the ball in the end zone because you only go to half a yard. Oh Joe. Mm-hmm They gonna get it. Listen, they gonna get it every time They stopped them. They stopped them once and if you're. Cause I think it was Lovoo that went over the top. Kind of like what they did with Josh Allen. Josh Allen, yeah.

They went over the top and stopped it. It's like, okay. That was a rule I didn't even know. I didn't even know it was a rule that they could have ruled a point. I've never heard of that either. I never heard of it either. I haven't been that deep in the rule book

and I haven't seen that situation happen ever before. But you look at the, this was almost a perfect storm for the Eagles. Jalen Hurts, extremely efficient, 20 of 26, 246, one touchdown, no turnovers. St. Quine, 15 rushes, 118 yards, three touchdowns, no turnovers. Saquon, 15 rushes, 118 yards, three touchdowns, long of 60. Will Shipley comes in, has a 57 yard to the house,

four for 77. J. LaHurts, 10 or 16, he had a nine yard run, but he did a great job. His thing is, protect the football. Yeah, yeah. They kept Washington's, the commanders, you see the difference, commanders? Now last week, you guys got the turnovers, y'all dropped 45.

This week, y'all give up the four turnovers, you get 55 dropped on you. Yeah, every time. There's a direct correlation. The more you turn it over, you decrease your chances of winning, and you increase your opponent's chances of winning. Well, look at all the teams in the playoffs.

Look at all the teams in the playoffs. Look at all the teams in the playoffs that turned the ball over, huh? You know? They going home. Everybody going home. The proof is in the pudding, you know? It is. The proof is in the pudding.

I got a question for you. Yes. I don't mean to put you on the spot like this. Who I'm going to win right now? Yeah, I want to know who you going with. Bad. Yeah, I know it's tough. It's tough.

Chad, who you going with, Chad? I know we got a lot of Old Joe to be honest, yes, I thought from about week Eight or nine. Mm-hmm. I thought the Eagles were the best was playing the best football They were the best team and I said it and I kept repeating it. Mm-hmm. If the Eagles faced The Lions I'm taking the Eagles. Right. Because of their defense and Jerry Goff sometimes he gets, he turns the ball over. Yeah.

You don't know which one you get. You don't know what golf you're getting. And you turn the ball over and it's going to be the same thing. If you go back and look at it, the game that Philly played a couple of years ago against the Eagles, I mean, against the Chiefs, it was that turnover, that scoop and score. That Hurts got the ball in Kansas City, got their footing, and they go on and win the ball game.

They come out in the second half and dominate, and the next thing you know, they're winning their second, and they come back last year, and they beat the 49ers for their third. But when you run it, when you 20 of, no, 20 of 28, excuse me, I said 20 of 26, excuse me, 20 of 28, 246 Ocho.

And you get 36 of tails for 229. You're extremely balanced. Cause think about it, you had damn near minutes. Cause when you take the side yards, Ocho, they had 230 yards passing, they had 220 yards rushing. They had 28 pass attempts, they had 36 rush attempts. How many rush attempts did Buffalo, I mean Baltimore had last week?

Cause you're talking about a team that can run the ball just as good. Yeah. You're talking about a team that can run the ball just as good. Yeah. You talk about a team that can run the ball just as good. Yeah. Uh, Lamar Jackson can throw the ball just as good. Tide is just as good. Yeah.

I think, I think the Eagles deep trenches is a little better. That's me personally. Uh, how many pass attempts? They had 30. How many runs attempts did, what you call them have? No, how many did Derek Henry? 16. For 80 yards.

He had 16, he averaging five yards a carry. You want to give him 16, he should have had 30 by himself. I think if I'm not mistaken, I forgot what quarter that was. They went away from the run. Second. Second, yeah, they went away from the run. But then they came out in the third quarter. Running it down.

And got back on it. And went straight down to feeling scald. Yeah, this game got a hand early. 14-3 the first quarter and then they get 12, then they get 13 the second. So you're going into half, Ocho, you're down 27-15. You're like, okay, we get a play, we right back in the game.

Turn the ball over, boom. And then got outscored 21-nothing in the fourth. Yeah, is a wrap. Eagles are their home. turn the ball over, boom. And then got outscored 21-nothing in the fourth. Yeah. Is it a wrap? Eagles are, they're home, they're feeling good. They got them turnovers and they're just like, you know what, let's go ahead and step on the gas. Let's go ahead and just end this thing.

We don't need to have any further discussions about what could possibly happen or we had it while you had the momentum. And that's what you do. You see what happens when you get the momentum, you step on the gas, go in, end the thing. Listen, and don't, don't get conservative. No, most of the time what we tend to see is we see the play call and become

conservative, trying to make sure we don't want to lose the game and allows the other team to get back in the game. And it causes the game to be closer than it should be or closer than it needs to be, you know, but needs to be, you know? But, uh, you kind of slipped too, now. You said a whole lot of nothing that didn't answer that question that I asked you. I said, who you got?

We got a whole time. We don't got to pick right now. Think about how many shows we got. We got Monday, we got Thursday, Wednesday. What you scared of? But listen, we got all them days. Listen, we got all the shows, right? Because we want people to come watch. If if we already done pig why they gonna watch I wonder who are gonna be they gonna watch anyway. They don't watch now

We want to make sure they watch because I'll give I'll give him that third to be all at the live show Okay. Okay. Oh, you don't wait till you don't wait till we get in New Orleans Yeah, okay, we got draft Kings we got draft Kings later in the show weraft Kings later in the show. We got something coming. Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay. But uh, chat who y'all got? Y'all chat who y'all got? We just want it. If we get a type of game that we got against the Chiefs and Buffalo, we'll take that. If we take the game, if we get a game like we got last year or the year before with the Eagles, I'll take that. I just don't want no 55-23. I don't want no blowouts.

No, no. So hopefully that's a thing of the past. Honestly, based on those two teams that we do have going into the Super Bowl, we not gonna get no blowout game like that. Because the turnover that the commanders had, you not gonna get that from either side of the ball. My homies ain't turn the ball over like that.

Jalen Hurts, they're not even gonna allow, they're not even gonna put Jalen Hurts in a position where he can make those kind of turnovers and make those plays. Everything is gonna be efficient. How do you make sure things are efficient for the Eagles and the Eagles have their best chance and opportunity to host that goddamn Lombardi Trophy?

Give that motherfucking ball to 26. Yes. Give it to 26. What is the answer that they gonna have for that? What's the answer? All I need you to do, all I need y'all to do is man on man at the point of attack, hold your man for one second until he goes by.

Once Saquon gets to the second level, man, listen, man, two things gonna happen. Either he gonna make the tackle or he gonna hit his head off the goal post. Yeah. That's it. I'm just interested to see how they're going to the defense, what Spags is gonna employ.

Right. To try to slow down Saquon. Because for me, I know what Saquon could do. Yeah. Hurts, I'm what Saquon could do. Hurts, I'm gonna make Hurts beat me. They'll have to beat me throwing the football. I'm gonna try to push him out of the pocket. I don't want him to get comfortable throwing him out of the pocket.

I wanna get him off rhythm. I'm gonna make him make decisions. And I'm gonna make him, he's gonna have to make the right decisions. That's the way I'm, I know what Saquon can do. I've seen his body of work this year. He's damn near 2,500 yards. I've seen it.

I know what he can do. So I don't need to get to the Super Bowl and say, oh, prove it, prove it to me again. Right. In Super Bowl hell, he might go for 200. Yeah. I don't want that to happen, Ocho. I don't.

So if J.L. if hurts throws the ball for, he's a fishing like he is. He has a couple of touchdowns, cause I'm gonna neutralize. The thing is you gotta neutralize Saquon's big runs. It's the big, if you notice Ocho, it's a 60 yarder, it's a 70 yarder.

Sometimes he's getting multiple big runs. You gotta neutralize that. Yeah. So if he has 25 carries, 30 carries, and he has 120 yards and his longest run is 10 yards, you live with that. Right. You ain't got no choice.

Ocho, I can't give him a 78. I can't give him a 66 or 60. I can't. Because now that team gets invigorated, the defense, everybody's flying around, special teams. Yeah. I'm not gonna let that happen, I'm joking. The funny thing about it is once Saquon gets going,

once he gets going, it opens up every fucking post. Absolutely. It opens up everything else. The playbook looks like Disneyland if you're running the ball and doing what you wanna do. Well, hey, it's, when he're running the ball and doing what you want to do. Well, hey, it's uh, when he's running the ball, now uh, Kellan Moore's play sheet looks like a Cheesecake Factory menu. You know they got that big old menu and they got by 7-8 pages, they got like 1500 different cheesecakes and they got like 1700 different chicken dishes

and another 300 pasta dishes. That's what the playbook looked like when Saquon is running the football because I can call whatever I want. And I don't believe they can stop it. Now you just go, oh, you just call this stuff. Call it, what? We only practiced that play one time.

Call it, I call it, it's gonna work. It's gonna work. Ocho, let's take a listen to what Jayden Daniels had to say after the game. Obviously, man, it's ****, man, it's just ****. Excuse my language. But just, I couldn't be prouder of the guys in the locker room. You know, just year one, everybody not really knowing each other.

Rookies, the Vets did a tremendous job of bringing us in and helping us out. And we all just meshed and we got to this point, but at the end of the day, man, we lost it, it's ****. But we'll move on from this. Well, Jayden, we got nothing to feel bad about. Why? Because your expectations, the media, you know, those on the outside, this is not what they're expecting.

They're not expecting for you to be in the NFC championship after how many years? Oh, 30 something, 30 something. They hadn't been this is what? Uh, 91? Mind you, this is your first year as a rookie. You know, this is your first year as a rookie. You ain't got nothing to hang your head about, boy.

Stop playing, boy. I know y'all lost the day, but you good. You gonna be good. In the NFC, you are one of the quarterbacks that nobody gonna have to worry about. You in the same conversation, you in the same boat with Burrow, Josh Allen-Mahomes, and Lamar Jackson. Every year, y'all gonna be in contention

as long as you healthy and they continue, because y'all got a two year window. Jayden, I know you're gonna see this too. You're gonna see this. Y'all got a two year window until it's time to get that bag where they can build pieces around you and every year it's gonna be you,

Jayden Hertz. Who else we got in the NFC that's like that? That's gonna be like- Dang, I thought you were gonna say somebody NFC East. Nobody. Okay, I'ma leave that at down. I thought you go say somebody NFC East nobody. Okay. I'm gonna leave at that I mean we we talk about 49ers and Brock Purdy Green Bay great. Jared Jordan love. Oh, so there is more as more quarterbacks in the NFC though. Okay. No, no

No, no, no, no, no, no. It's only it's it's a four-headed muscle and an AFC But hey, you still got CJ Stroud. We didn't put CJ Stroud, because we think he a little low. Justin Herbert, little low. Oh my God. So no, they just got those big, big, big games on the road with the AFC. The big boys, yeah.

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, but listen, if you're a Commanders fan, you have to be feeling good. Oh, you feeling great. The fact that you were able to get to this point and understand that you got to this point Because of the quarterback play and everything else around him Defensively, they played well They're gonna be alright, huh? And you still got stuff and over there nail in the NFC to huh?

Matthew Stafford. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I saw little rumors about a trade for staff, huh? Where you go? Who will trade for him? I don't know. I saw him and Cooper Cup. Not together, but I'm just saying, you're making moves. I mean, he's gonna want money. I mean, he gonna want 50. Yeah, and he worthy of it?

He worthy of it? Yes. Yeah, I mean, I think they're gonna, look. I'm happy, I'm happy, I'm happy for the Commanders. I'm not even a Commanders fan, you know? I'm a fan of the game of football, but what I was able to witness Jayden Danz do this year, the Danz fans in DC, they got to be happy, you know? He should be happy.

Oh yeah, for sure. Mom, mom. They got a lot to be excited about in the upcoming years. For the next decade. But there ain't no guarantee. Now, I believe they got the right pieces in place as far as in the front office, Ocho, to make the moves to put around this team.

That's what you need, you probably go, hey, I like Zach Ertz, probably gonna need a running back. I like Brian Robinson, but I need another piece. Right. I like the wide receivers, defensive. I like Louvreau. They got, I mean, they got, what you call them,

they're payout, I don't think-, what you call them? They're pay. I don't think. Louis Vu. Deron Payne played today. That's my little show. Alan played, but I don't think Deron Payne played today. Nah, Payne, I think he was hurt. He didn't play.

Yeah. They're gonna be all right. They're gonna be all right. They're gonna be all right. God damn commanders, man. I salute you. I salute y'all, man. They did.

Jayden Daniels, I love you. Mama Daniels, Mama Daniels, you did a hell of a job, sis. You hear me? Now, I know you said he can't have no girl, but he deserves to celebrate. Now, go ahead and let him date somebody. Mm-mm. Mm-mm.

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