Club Shay Shay - Nightcap - Hour 1: Mavs beat Thunder to reach WCF, Usyk stuns Fury

Episode Date: May 19, 2024

Shannon Sharpe and Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson react to Luka Doncic and the Dallas Mavericks coming back to beat the Oklahoma City Thunder in Game 6 to reach the Western Conference Finals, Oleksandr Usyk beating Tyson Fury by split decision to become undisputed heavyweight champion, Caitlin Clark and the Indiana Fever's 0-3 start, and much more! 03:41 - Show starts06:07 - Mavs beat OKC24:49 - Tyson Fury vs Usyk47:00 - Caitlin Clark59:06 - Sydney Mclaughlin01:02:00 - Newscap01:04:23 - Chiefs schedule(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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But I'm going to get a haircut tomorrow morning. My guys are going to come in and touch me up. So, Ocho, we had a very exciting game. The Mavs eliminate the number one seed, OKC Thunder, 117 to 116, to reach the Western Conference Finals. Remember the headlines that everybody said about me? Ocho, I said, OKC,

y'all really think they're going to the Western Conference Finals? Y'all think they're going to the NBA Finals? I ain't one to say I told. Look at this, Ochoa. Look what they got up there. Look at what they said, now. Now, I want them to run. I want them to run up with right with the same passion. Right.

Listen, OKC did put up a great fight. OKC put up a great fight, but obviously the experience of the Mavs... Number one seed's not supposed to put up a great fight. Number one seed's supposed to win. I know, Ung, but Shea over there, I'm not going to say it by itself. You know, Shea, you know,

he got Jalen Williams, he got Shet Holmgren, but it's not enough. It's not enough to go against that three-headed monster over there with the Mavs and Dallas now. They got them Kyrie and Luka and obviously P.J. Washington. I'm going to talk about

P.J. a little bit because he started off real bad tonight. He started off real bad tonight. He got in foul trouble early, but that second half, them key threes that he did hit in that game, to seal it. Them two free throws. And them free throws, talk about clutch, I'm not

calling them Kobe, but I'm saying P.J. Washington was Kobe-ish. Oh, you mean Kobe-ashi? You know what I mean? I'm just saying, but having the first half like you had then, then being able to make those shots in a

clutch situation, you know, because making free throws, I mean, to many that are watching from home, they think it's easy. Oh, no. They think it's so easy, but understanding the pressures

in a game this magnitude where you want to close it out, hey, that shit difficult now. That shit difficult. It is. I think the thing is, look, you know,

I'm just giving an OKC thunder. They're better than I actually thought they were considering how well they performed. They wouldn't go away. This is a very, very young team. I'm talking about really, really, really young. I agree with you.

I think they need one more superstar to pair along with Shea because he's sensational. He's been sensational the entire series. He showed why he was MVP runner-up. He showed why he's going to be probably a unanimous. He, Luka, and Yoke were probably

unanimous first-team All-NBA players. He showed you why. He had the package. He hit the three. He had the mid-range. But he also showed you, man, I ain't got to live by these threes because he may get a lot of his buckets in the paint. He get a lot of his points in the mid-range.

He's sensational. I love watching this young man play, compete. I can assure you the Clippers did not see this coming. Kawhi, he wanted a veteran player to go along with it or he was going

to the Lakers. The Clippers could not afford that to happen. So they got Paul George, but they had to give up Shea and a lot of draft picks. But Shea was sensational. They don't have anything to be... Yeah, I understand it's disappointing because you had the number one seed and you want to get at least to the Western Conference Finals.

It didn't happen this year. And maybe they're a year early. So maybe next year was where they're supposed to be, where they are now. Maybe they were supposed to be there next year. I think if they can get one veteran, a star player, to pair along with Shea,

because they got everything. I love Chet. Chet does a great job of contesting a lot of shots. He can shoot the three ball. He can block. He can defend the rim. He lobs. He's great at hovering around the basket, getting rebounds and putbacks.

But tonight, you saw when it came down to it. You had Derrick Jones was early. That second half, three after three after three. He had 22 points. Kyrie got going in the after three, he had 22 points. Kyrie got going late, got going in the second half. He had 22 points. Luka

had a triple-double with 29-10-10. I don't know if they would have ever got to that lead, but the turnovers, the Mavericks, whomever they play in the next round, they've got to eliminate, they've got to cut down on those turnovers because you look at Go ahead. Yeah, I was going to say cut down on those turnovers. Because you look at, go ahead.

Yeah, I was going to say, you look at the turnovers they had in this game, and as you get to the Eastern Conference Finals, Western Conference Finals, whatever it may be, when you play a better team, you won't be able to overcome some of those turnovers. Because when you turn the ball over, the better team that you're going to play are going to capitalize and get points off of those, and you're going to put yourself in a goddamn hole, and you're not going to always be able to dig out of it, even though the game of basketball is a game of runs.

Yes. It's a game of runs, you know? Momentum shifts, but as you play better teams that have better scoring output, which is what you're going to face in the next round, you're not going to be able to recover all the goddamn time. Considering the Mavericks out-rebounded by 16 total. They out-rebounded by seven on the offensive glass.

So you're thinking, oh man, this is going to be easy. But they turned the ball over 18 times, which led to 27 points for the Thunder. That's why the game was closer than what it really needed to be considering how you dominated the offensive glass, how you dominated total rebounds, but you allow the team to stay in the ball game

because you turned the ball over. Think about it. The Mavericks shot 47% from the floor. They shot 16 of 34 from the three. But when you turn the ball over like that, you allow teams, you're going to allow teams to stay in ball games.

And sometimes it comes back to bite you in the butt. OKC is going to kick themselves because they had a 17, they had an 11-point lead at one time. They got it whittled down. They stretched it back up to 17 and they lost it.

So they're going to find them. And that's what happens. You're a young team. You got to find ways to hold on to that lead. You got to find other ways to get stops. But I think Jason Kidd made a very strategic move in the second half. He went to a zone defense. Yeah.

That allowed them to, because they were going bucket for bucket. I was like, you can't win the game. They got to lead. You can they were going bucket for bucket. I was like, you can't win the game. They got to lead. You can't play go bucket for bucket. You won't catch up. So he went to that zone. It allowed them to get back into the ball game. They went away from it.

They went out on again. He went back to the zone again. And I think that was a very great strategic move by Jason Kidd. Going to that zone, he went to it twice. It served him well both times. And guys started to make shots, and they did a great job. But OK, see, they'll be back. This is a young, greedy team and a hungry team.

Jalen Williams is going to get better. But I think in order for them to get to that next level, because guess what? The Nuggets not going away. Minnesota definitely not going away uh uh uh minnesota definitely not going away right let's see what happens with the warriors what can they retool with uh if they get another guy if can if clay coming back um i think um sacramento if if zion can stay healthy right new or Orleans is going to be to deal with. So there's a lot, you know, everybody's going to get, but you keep saying Jalen Williams is going to get better.

But I think the Western Conference as a whole will continue to get better. So I have a question. That's a good thing. We talk about OKC and how good they were, obviously being the number one seed going into the playoffs. And you say a veteran presence is also needed to pair with Shea and Shett. Who's a veteran? Who is the great piece? Who is the great piece that would be willing to go play with a young team? That's the thing, Ocho. You're probably, Ocho, they got seven, eight,

nine first round picks. They got seven, eight, nine second round picks. You might be happen to willing to give up some of those first round picks and get, maybe go get a Brandon Ingram. Maybe go get one of the, yeah, go get a proven commodity. Because the likelihood of you being able to attract someone, ain't nobody going to OKC.

It ain't happening, no joke. It ain't happening. Is it that bad? Which one, OKC? I mean, are players looking at the city that they're going to or are they looking at the team and the chance that they have and getting far in the playoffs? Let me ask you a question.

You get an opportunity. You can go to Lakers. You can go to Miami. You can go to Orlando. You go into OKC or you go to one of those places for the same money. Okay. Hold on. Orlando ain't going nowhere.C or you going to one of those places for the same money? OK, hold on. Orlando ain't going nowhere. Orlando was in the playoff.

They young. Bankero? Oh, he legit. Oh, oh, oh, yeah. Oh, oh, oh, yeah. I know about young dude, but I'm talking about, think about it. They almost made it to the finals. Western, wait, Eastern Conference finals. Almost. OKC? No, they went to the finals. Western, wait, Eastern Conference Finals.

Almost. Okay, see, no, they went to the second round. The Western Conference Finals is going to be between them. It's next. Yes. That's what I'm saying. They almost, that's why I said they almost.

I mean, obviously, they lost to the Mavs. So, I mean, as a player, obviously, I don't play the game of basketball. So people in the chat might know a little bit more than I do based on this. But I would want to go play with the Young Bulls. I would want to go play with the Young Bulls. Obviously, they're the number one seed.

So why would I choose in going to a Miami and understanding what Miami has or going to— I mean, Miami doesn't have a shade. They don't have anybody scoring 30 points a game. No, but they— I'm not going to Orlando. Orlando doesn't have— Orlando has a great young player. I forgot, is he Spanish, right?

Pablo Bancaro? Hey, young bull, nice, but again, he's not going to play with a shade. You know, it's different. We talk about a MVP runner-up. I don't want to go play with that. Bancaro, he's only going to get better. Remember, he made the All-Star team

in his second year. They got a very young team. You look at Ben Carroll, he's only going to get better. Remember, he made the All-Star team in his second year. Yeah. They got a very young team. You look at Suggs. You look at Wagner. They got a young team. They need a veteran presence. Let's just say they go and get a Paul George.

Let's go say they go and get a Donovan Mitchell. Oh, they're going to be a major player. Donovan Mitchell to OKC. But see, here's the thing. He left Utah. He didn't want to be in Utah. Now, maybe that had a lot to do with Rudy Gobert. We talk about Utah now.

Come on now. But here's the thing, Ocho. Trading somebody there. Kawhi wasn't going to Toronto. You see, when Kawhi got his first chance, where Kawhi went? L.A.? L.A. They traded Paul George to OKC. Now now he stayed because he was with russ right but

he wasn't going there if as a free agent if you go back and look what big time free agent has signed with okc only one big time free agent has ever signed with san an. And that was the guy from Portland. What's his name? LaMarcus Aldridge. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He signed with San Antonio as a big-time free agent. It's hard for small market teams to get... To attract big names? Think about it.

LeBron couldn't get anybody to come to Cleveland. LeBron effing James. He couldn't get anybody to come to Cleveland. And you think Shea gonna be able to't get anybody to come to Cleveland and you think Shay gonna be able to get some people to come to OKC KD and Russ couldn't get anybody to come to OKC and that's fucked up man

it is what it is you're gonna have to trade and get a guy you got enough draft capital to do it? Speaking of trade, if you trade for a veteran presence, what happens if,

do the players, obviously, basketball players make, I call it fuck you money. I call it fuck you money. And you could trade a player to a certain place and what happens if you say,

you know what, man, I don't want to play here. I don't want to play here. Does that happen? Does that happen? Does it happen? They can pull that off. For the most part. Like if you're Katie,

Brooklyn did him a solid. They gave him, he gave him like, I would really like to go to Phoenix because he's been a good soldier. They did that. Kyrie gave him choices and they sent Kyrie to Dallas. Now, maybe,

maybe that was the perfect landing spot. It's kind of like when the Fox had the rabbit in his hand and he told him, he's like, you know, I should eat you. I should throw you in the brow patch. He's like, please, please don't throw me in the brow patch. Don't Mr. Fox. If you throw me in the brow patch, I'm going to get all them thorns on me. I'm going to

be scratched up. Fox throw them in the brow patch. He said, that's where I wanted to be. You know what I'm saying? So maybe Kyrie, I don't really want to go anywhere but the lake right and you know oh man i went luca that's where i wanted to be no state no state taxes right you get to play alongside a guy you don't have to show them the load and kairi has matured so much he seems to be so at peace right i mean i need to know I need to go talk to him because I want to see how he's at so at peace. You saw the other night they won the game. He beat the

drum. He's a cerebral player that's found peace. Happy, married, kids. We know he's always been able to play. There was never an issue about his ability.

To be able to handle. Oh, yeah. There was never an issue about his ability. Never that. You don't be able to handle the ball, three level, the three, the mid-range, can finish either hand at the rim, can shoot, can finish with a free throw. We're never worried about that. You know what else? Not only has he been able to play,

but he's been healthy, too. Yeah, yeah. He's been healthy. He's been healthy, too. He's always had issues. I've heard rumblings about his knees, his knees being bad. But this year, he's been healthy. He's been healthy, too. He's always had issues. I've heard rumblings about his knees, his knees being bad. But this year, he's been healthy. He's been available.

He's been available. Yes. So it's going to be very, very interesting. This was Chet's first year. He's only going to get better. You saw the improvement from when he was a freshman at Gonzaga, and then all of a sudden he misses his entire first year. If there's something to be said about guys that missed their first year, Ocho,

for the simple fact, even though you're not playing, you're learning. You're learning how to be a pro without having to be a pro by playing. Study habits, getting in the cold tub, rehabbing, lifting, how you conduct yourself on the road. That goes a long, long way. You look at guys like Joel Embiid, missed a lot of time. Ben Simmons missed time, although I don't think Ben Simmons will ever be what he once was, injuries.

And I think he got beat up so much mentally. I don't think he'll ever be what he once was, Ocho. But you look at guys that missed time their first year, Blake Griffin, some of these other guys, and it went a long way. But the Thunder go down 4-2 to the Mavs, 117-116. The Mavs move on. They face the winner of the Minnesota Timberwolves and the Denver Nuggets. So that's going to be a very interesting game.

In their first 40 playoff games, LeBron James averaged 27.3, 8.3 rebounds, 7.3 assists. He shot 44% from the floor, 29% from the three-point line, 74% from the free-throw line. In his first 40 playoff game, Lucas averaging 31 points a game, 9.4 rebounds, 8.2 assists. He's shooting 46% from the floor, 35% from the three, 72% from the free throw line.

Yeah. Shea this year, Ocho, he was sensational. 30 points a game, 6 rebounds a game, 6 assists a game, 2 steals a game. He was first in 30-point games, most 30-point games since Harden in 2019, led the NBA in steals,

best player on the number one seed, number one seed in NBA history, second in MVP voting. So, the future is very, very bright in OKC. The only thing, Ochoo is not to get complacent said hey we young we did this get back in the lab taking some time off you know shay's gonna be on the

canadian olympic team i think lou dort is gonna be on the canadian olympic team so they're gonna be playing hopefully jaylen williams both of the william kids, Chet, they get right back into it. Isaiah Joe, Josh Getty, they're probably, I can see a scenario where they move Josh Getty. I can see, I can really see that happening.

People talking about KD go back to OKC. Well, that's a possibility. It is. I don't know if he really wants to do that because, but they have the draft compensation to get it make it

to restart what what Phoenix lost by trading to get KD but it was a great it was a great series yeah it goes down 4-2 could have easily gone 7 to join the other two 7 game matchups

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in the heavyweight division with a split decision win over Tyson Fury. He unifies all four belts. It's the first time we've had a unified heavyweight champion since Lennox Lewis in 1999. He became the undisputed heavyweight champion in Kingdom, Arena and Riyadh.

Riyadh, Saudi Arabia. The bout was everything fans could have hoped for. You saw Usyk established early. Fury gets it going and then Usyk countered. I'm going to say this. Yeah.

Fury, he took the fight serious but he did too much antics. Yeah, but you know, okay. Listen, I was just going to say that. Now, when it comes to people or fighters that have a personality that make the sport entertaining, I think that's him. That's always

been Fury. He's always been like that. He's approached all the fights that he's had with that fun, with that passion for it, with that entertainment value where if you pan, whatever you pan

to see Fury fight, you're going to get that entertaining side of him as well. Right. I think it caught up to him a little bit. I can't remember by round. I think it might have been

round seven or maybe round... Yeah, he... What round was it where he got rocked? Where he got rocked? What round was I think it might have been round seven or maybe round... Yeah, you forgot the game. What round was it where he got rocked? What round was that? It might have been seven or eight, Ocho. Seven, seven, eight. Now, I say it on the show

and I say it all the time. The moment of truth for all boxers, it all comes down to your conditioning. I don't care how skillful you are. I don't care how well your IQ is, how much information you process when it comes between you and your opponent from round one to six.

Round six and seven is the moment of truth where your conditioning comes into play. Because when you're not able to be on your bicycle and moving left to right and doing all the head movement and you got to stand there and fight and you got to exchange, you have no choice but to fight, what's going to happen?

When he wasn't moving as much, what happens? He gets caught and Yusef goes to work. And from that point on, from round seven, it might have been seven and on, even though Fury tried to come back, it was too late. It was too late. Every round from that point

on, he went to work on him. Riyadah. Riyadah. Riyadah. he went to work on him. Riyada. Riyada. Riyada. Riyada, Saudi Arabia. Riyada. Riyada. Riyada. Hey, man.

Hey, you got to think about Yusuf, Yusuf, his path. His path just to get to Fury, right? Yeah. Anthony Joshua Tice. I mean, Anthony Joshua twice. Daniel Du Bois. Tony Ballou. get the fury right yeah anthony joshua tice i mean anthony joshua twice daniel dubois tony baloo derrick chisora maurice brills marat gaseev michael hunter christophe glovaki i'm probably saying his name wrong but dude buddy went through the gauntlet buddy went through the gauntlet just

to get to this point and i mind you they have a rematch clause no matter what. So regardless of who won the fight, they fighting again. I think maybe in October. I might be wrong as far as the date goes. But they fighting again in October. And I'm sure the fight will probably be back in Saudi Arabia again. Yeah. And listen, they get a double dip.

They get a double dip. They get a double dip. And I wonder, now is Ysyk the A-side? Is Usyk the A-side now? Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. You think he is the A-side now, right? Yeah, he got the belts. Okay, okay, okay.

I think the thing about Joe, like, at some point in time, you have to pick and choose because Usyk is not, he ain't no punk. The dude's a hippie. He's a gold medal winning fighter. Right. And if you watch as the fight started to dude, he's a, he's a gold medal winning fighter.

Right. And if you watch that, the fight started to go, he's a smaller man, but he started walking him down. Now. Yeah. He walked him down and he counted him because Fury tried to throw the uppercut from distance.

Yeah. He counted him right, left over the top and boom. Now here's the thing, and boom. Now, give Fury credit how he stayed up on his feet after that, because they could have easily stopped the fight.

I was scared the ref was going to walk in and call it. I thought he was getting ready to, but he let it go. Yeah. I think the thing, I think Yusuke is fighting for a bigger cause. Yeah.

His country's been at war for the better part of two years. Did you hear what Fury said after the fight? I didn't. Yeah. I mean, he said, to the fact, I don't want to quote him wrong,

but to the fact that they gave him the fight because of what was going on. They felt bad for him. Nah, don't do that. Don't undermine the man. The man with your ass. Come on, man. See, it's something to that nature. And I think that was classless on his part.

You shouldn't do that. Give the man his credit. Yes. You lost and you got a rematch, but don't say nothing like that don't you gotta be able to help him fight because it was going on in ukraine yes and you know vladimir klitschko heavyweight champion from the ukraine and you know when you're fighting for a higher purpose than just fighting right when it means something to your country i I mean, you know, if you look at it, the way they honor their champions,

they have parades. Those people win gold medals. I mean, maybe a little small town, but their athletes in these foreign countries are revered. Yeah, Lomachenko. I mean, Messi and Ronaldo. Oh, man.

In the Ukraine. Icons. I know. Oh, man. In the Ukraine. Yes. Icons. Icons. Yes. Yes. So he's fighting for a bigger purpose. He beat you, Fury.

He beat you. Fair and square. This ain't about no, yes, his country is at war. But that's not what. He beat you, man. I don't like. Because all the time that when you win and, you know, you said all these funny quotes about how you was drunk and you came in overweight and you won, don't shortchange the man. Give the man his credit.

Say, you know what? Tonight, he was the better man. We're going to do this thing again. And the next time, I'm going to be the better man. But don't shortchange the man. He did, man. Listen, now Usyk has completed WBA Cruiserweight, the WBC Cruiserweight,

IBF Cruiserweight, WBO Cruiserweight, Ring Cruiserweight, WBA Heavyweight, WBC Heavyweight, IBF Heavyweight, WBO Heavyweight, and Ring Heavyweight.

You know what? I think... Two-division unified champ. Doesn't happen often. Two-division unified champ. I think he division unified champ doesn't happen often two division unified champ I think he should fight me what you think nah

as a tuna fight a tuna fight in between that's not your weight class huh that man that hit you so hard in the top of your head you peep out your ribs

and thank you in jail don't do that listen to me stay with me now listen I think it'll be a good tuna fight before he fights Fury again. Ocho, you couldn't take not one body shot.

Yes, I can. You'd be peeing right there in the ring. I ain't going to pee. Man, listen, I got... Look at them abs, man. Who can't take no body shot, man? Man, hey. Boy, you'd be pleading blood for a month. And I'm good, man.

I'm ready, man. I'm ready. I'm ready to get back in the ring, man. I can't find nobody. Don't nobody want to fight me. Nah, you too light. Nah, I'm not too light. Man, you see that man just bought one of the most

skilled heavyweights in the history of that division and he walked him down. But you got to understand he walked him down after round six. Oh, Joe. Listen, Fury fought beautiful the first six rounds. That is what you call a pure boxer, a skillful boxer.

Defense, everything was on point. Oh, Joe. He kept the jab on him, kept the jab on him. He kept the length out there, you know, to measure distance. He fought a beautiful fight up until he got a little tired. But I'm saying, Ocho, here's the thing. He was 235, so you're going to be giving up 50 pounds. Ooh.

And, bro. I keep forgetting they that heavy. I keep forgetting. My bad. And the difference is, like, the heavyweights, for the most part, most heavyweights can turn the lights out with one punch. Hey, at any moment.

That's the thing that makes heavyweights so dangerous. I mean, sometimes, there have been some fighters that could, Tommy Hearns can hit you with that overhand right at the welterweight, the 147, and end the fight. Roberto Duran could end the fight. Horse hands, horse hands.

Yeah. There have been certain guys. I don't know if you remember him. John Mugabe, the beast. I mean, there have been certain guys. Obviously, the heavyweights. You know, you had Ken Norton. You had Ernie Shavis.

You had Big George Foreman. You had Ron Lyles. A lot of those big heavyweight guys can turn the lights out of the fight. But these guys are not really heavy punchers. They're like really skilled boxers. So they got to put a lot of punches together. If you see, if we saw when, what's his name? Deontay.

When he caught what you call him, Flush? Wilder, yeah. It was a wrap. Sent him to the floor. It was a wrap. Sled him to the floor. I still don't know how he got up. How he got up? Like the Undertaker. He was standing to the roof

and just jumped up out of nowhere. That's crazy. Okay, well listen. Usyk is too big for me. Right now, because I've been boxing and playing soccer and playing tennis, I'm right now about 180. So how about this?

How about I fight like people at 168? How about I fight like Caleb Plant? 168? A super middleweight? Yeah. How about I fight Caleb Plant? You better fight somebody like Ryan Garcia or Tank Davis.

No, man. They too little, man. They too man. They too little, man. They too little. They too little, man. Bad at your kitchen with the uppercut. Listen, Caleb Plant, Benavidez, he can get this work. Bud, Boots. I'm trying to think.

I'm trying. I'm like, and you know what's funny? I'm naming all the people I sparred before, so I already know what to expect. Any of them boys want some work, let me know. Let me know. They want some road work. They want you to get on the road and put about three or four miles in with them.

Oh, that's fine. I've done that already with them. But I'm talking about what I do to them boys with eight-ounce gloves and no headgear. They know what it is. What? Hold on. Brian Maxwell shot you on your ass.

What you think? Hey, hold on. That was three on your ass what you think hey hold on that was three years ago I've been in the gym for three years now so let me say something

let me say remember how you look as a rookie and how did you look going into your third year do you know how much you improved as a player so how much you think

I improved as a boxer Ocho let that sink in think about what you're saying that's like that's like a guy coming out there that, hey, really never played football before.

Say, you know what? I've been working out. Exactly. I don't like that analogy because I've been fighting all my life. Nah, you ain't been fighting. You ain't got no golden gloves. You ain't got no amateur rings on your belt.

Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. I got golden gloves from Charles Hadley Park when I used to go at it. What you talking about? I was a golden glove in the hood. What you talking about? I've been fighting. I just never fought in a structured environment like that.

Well, that ain't fighting. Hold on. I got one more thing. One more thing. I got thrown out of Langston University, right? Yeah. You know where I got thrown out? I got thrown out for fighting. Let me finish. I went You know where I got thrown out? I got thrown out for fighting

Let me finish I went to Coral Gables High School I don't know I don't remember who the principal was In 1993 But I got kicked out For fighting in the Grove I tell you

Yeah, I'm gonna fight Go fight Mayweather Go fight Mayweather I don't wanna fight Floyd I don't wanna fight Caleb Planner I wanna fight Boots Or Bud They ain't wasting their time with you

Huh? They ain't wasting their time with you huh they ain't wasting their time with you they got better things to do man i love them niggas up man stop playing with me man and you need to have more faith in me huh you got the faith of a hey in the bible it says god said to have faith of a mustard seed yeah and guess what in order for a mustard mustard seed to do grow what you got to do you got to plant plant it. They're going to bury your ass. So, I don't... I need my partner. I need my partner.

Man, you be slurring your speech and shit. Man, I'll have to get you up off the radio. I'll have to get you up off YouTube. Hey, that's fucking up. Hell nah. Hey, listen, you know what's funny? I know the chat probably laughing at me. Man, he ain't going to fight no better BL. Hey, I know the chat laughing their ass off.

The people I'm calling out, obviously, they're all friends of mine. I've all had the opportunity to work with them at one point in time, sparring. I don't think, they obviously didn't turn up on me because they could have killed me if they wanted to. But the fact that I was able to work with them, oh my goodness.

I told you how to do once you get inside the ring. They're not your friend no more. They're not your friend no more. They know it's you. Oh, but you got to go to work. I don't know how many people have actually seen a fight up close, but

to watch Mayweather and watch these guys set punches up by the time you realize he done hit him he done draw back so what you see when somebody like oh he done recall you see the guy here and he done recall he done ready to go again

and the thing is you gotta be able to see them punches. And that's what, I mean, that's what made Floyd, Floyd could see punches so good. He see it coming, bam. And already countering. And that's the scary part

when it comes to the elite fighters that are fighting, which is why sometimes everybody is cautious when it comes to exchanging. Because as soon as somebody feels something, something's coming back. Yes!

And the scary part is you want to be cautious and you don't want to get caught in that exchange because as soon as they feel leather anywhere, something's coming back. It's reactionary. Because here's the thing, Ocho.

They know whatever punch you hit them with, that hand is down. Down. So they come in with a counter to it. Yeah. And so that's the thing, you know, talking, I remember talking to Holyfield, this was Holyfield was the champ. Yeah. He says

the problem is, is that when you throw punches, you susceptible to get knocked out because you can't throw punches blocking your face. Yeah. Because when you throw something, and remember when he tried to throw that uppercut, that's how he got caught because his hand was down. Down and he came over the top.

Hey, he counted. That counter left over the top. Now he's back into the ropes. That equilibrium. Once that equilibrium shook. I still don't know how he stayed up. It take a little minute to get to gather yourself too. I still don't know how he stayed up. I take a little minute to get to gather yourself too. I still don't know how he stayed up.

I still don't. Yeah. I don't know. I'm excited. That's why I'm nervous. I'm nervous for Jake Paul. I'm nervous for Jake Paul. I know it's eight rounds, but it's only two minute rounds.

And I think they've done that. With 10 ounce gloves. Yeah. Even 10 ounce. I think he's underestimating the type of power that Tyson packs. Even at his age, he's short, he's compact, lower senior gravity. Do you understand the power that is coming behind them punches, man? Yeah.

Even if you do block, it makes you think twice once you feel the power. Yeah. I remember watching that fight with Holyfield fought George Foreman. If you get a chance, go back and listen to the sound of the thud of which Holyfield was hitting George

Foreman with. How that man stayed on his feet, I still don't know. To this day, I'm thinking, and every once in a while I go back and I'm like, you could hear that thing through the television. I was like,

I only saw Mike Tyson fought once, and I saw him fight Frank Bruno. Oh, Bruno. We hit him and he fell. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He caught him good. Caught him real good. Crazy. Like I said, you just got it like i said you just got i mean you get an appreciation when you see someone do their craft and you get an opportunity to witness in person right because like a lot of

time when you see lebron you know you see it on television yeah you watch these guys you watch the jordan's you watch the colby's or you go to about, I remember watching the Home Run Derby and see Sammy Sosa and Ken Griffey Jr. go at it, hitting the ball out of Turner Field. To see these guys and their craft and their natural element, then you get a real appreciation

for just how good and how skilled these individuals are. Oh, absolutely. For me, when it comes to boxing, absolutely. Yeah, for me, when it comes to boxing, obviously, there's a saying, you don't play boxing. No, no, no, no. You don't play boxing.

You don't play boxing. I obviously submerged myself in it for three years. I took it as serious as I could. And obviously, when I did fight on that card with Mayweather Fort Logan, I told Floyd,

I said, if I'm going to do it, I'm going to do it right. And I'm not fighting a celebrity. Give me someone that fights for a living. So that was why the decision in fighting Brian Maxwell, who's an MMA fighter and fights bare knuckle, it had to be somebody that magnitude. So they understood those who have been in this world for years. And it's their livelihood. I wanted to show you that I am taking this serious. I'm not going to play around. And just the three years after that point and going from boxer to boxer, some of the best,

and just watching the way they work, it gave me a better appreciation to their craft and what they do as opposed to being a fan and watching from the outside. Yeah, for sure. And I understand the work that goes into it. So when I sit back and see fighters fight and I hear fans talk all this trash,

or you should have done this, you should have done that, or you sorry, or you can't do that. And I sit back and think, like I spent three months in Philly and I watched Boots train to get to see why he looks the way he looks on fight night. I've watched Shakur. I've watched Bud. And I just look at how everybody talk trash about all these fights. I've watched K to plant.

Like, dude, do you understand what goes in the preparation just ahead of a fight? It's crazy. Which is why I also said boxing to me is the most difficult sport. It's the hardest to do.

There are no timeouts. There's nobody coming to save you if you get rocked. Like there's nothing. It's three minutes and he's trying to knock your head off. Yes. That's why I laugh. And you know, when people say, oh, he a bum. Shit.

The guy at the end of the bench in the NBA will make anybody at the park look ridiculous. Mm-hmm. Anyone. We work out. I don't know if you've ever seen track. I'm talking about like professional track athletes. Watch them work out.

You think you running? Yeah. Watch them turn the time that they be turning. Different. And to do it over that they be turning. Different. And to do it over. And man, please. I thought we was doing something. Bad.

Hey, you know, I keep people looking at the chat. I think I don't know if people actually watch boxing. People say, oh, so you got knocked out. Oh, oh, oh, you got slept. Do they do? Do they actually watch boxing and understand what a knockdown is when I think every fighter

has every fighter's been knocked down do people get that I think they they confuse the two yeah it's not it's not the fact of getting knocked down

it's getting up yeah especially when you've never when you've never been down before yeah see that's that's the that's the mark of a fighter.

Because if you win and you always have that advantageous situation, it's that. Thank you. When you taste that canvas. Yeah, yeah. It was good.

It was good. Because now, everybody got a plan until they get hit in the mouth and they touch the canvas. But, oh, damn, that plan. Hey, coach, this ain't working. Hey.

Hey. Hey. coach, this ain't working. Hey. Hey. Hey. And I told you, my dumb ass, I go down, right? Yeah. I get up. You know, my football mentality, you know, somebody hit me good, you know, playing football, the first thing I do, I get up. Nope.

Hey, boy, good hit, boy. Yeah. And should I get off the canvas and I'm sitting there trying to dap dude up in the middle of the ring? He like, hey, man, we got to keep fighting, man. You can't do that here. Oh, my boy. Yeah. Should I get off the canvas and I'm sitting there trying to dap dude up in the middle of the ring? He like, hey, man, we got to keep fighting, man. You can't do that here.

Oh, my bad. Yeah. Because here's the thing. If I lay on the ground, they're going to be talking ish to you. Oh, yeah. So you got to jump up

even if he's like, ooh, damn, that was a good one. Yeah, yeah. That ain't do nothing. That ain't hurt. I'll be right back, punk. Like, damn.

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three, the most points and her most efficient game of a young pro career while adding eight assists, six turnovers. I mean, excuse me, six rebounds, one steal, committing eight turnovers. She took a hard spring from Stewie which nobody's surprised by that. But, and see,

this is what Diana Taurasi was talking about. Right. It's because there's a learning curve. Everybody's not coming in like Candace Parker and winning MVP as a rookie. Because first of all, she's not like... And they got to communicate that, man.

I ain't communicating shit. Oh, excuse me. Your guy better do that. That's your guy's responsibility. You got to know if the screen coming, just yell screen, screen, screen. Thank you. You know the only reason, it's the only reason I know now, and you know, because the only reason I know that is because when we play on Pepper Park, which I'm doing tomorrow morning,

them boys out there running plays. So if somebody coming to pick and screen me, I got my dude, my homie, hey boy, Ocho, the screen coming, screen, screen, screen. Man, they let me know. So I'm like, I saw that early on Twitter. I'm like, wait a minute. Why her teammates ain't yelling out, scream?

And then Twitter told me, well, there's a reason she went first because the fever obviously aren't that good. But listen, communication is a part of any sport, any sport you play. You got to call it out and let your teammate know or she got to keep it. She got so many other things going on in her head. People say

you got to keep your head on a swivel. Yeah, definitely. On your right, on your right, on your right, on your right, on your left, on your left, on your left. And it lets you know something's coming. Like, talk to me. Well, hey, that's what I'm saying. Hey, next time

that happens, I'm going to slap the out of you. Man. Man. Because don't nothing hurt worse than when you walk into something unexpected. You walk into the wall. You walk into the door. You don't expect it. Hey, you walk it back. Think about you walking on the street and you walk in like, damn.

Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Let me. How about this one, though? Ain't nothing worse than being in a house and you're going to the bathroom and you hit that pinky toe on the edge of the wall

when you're trying to turn the corner. In the hotel room, I just get mad. I just want to tear that hotel room up. I said, y'all don't even know how close I came to tearing this room up. It be dark. You're not familiar. Like, I could pretty much go to the bathroom in the dark in my own house because I've made that trip a thousand times.

Yeah, you know your way around. But in the hotel, man, Ocho, I ain't going to lie, Ocho. Man, I went to the bathroom the other night. I thought I peed in the toilet. I peed all over the floor. And I said, hey, Ocho, I hey, I cleaned that up in the morning. I went to bed. I remember earlier, you know how

they have the picture over the toilet? Man, I done walked into the shower and thought that was the picture. I said, I get that in the morning. I'm sorry. That's why I believe the cleanup lady is $60 to $80. I deliver to the bed. That's why I like to go to the bathroom.

You go downstairs. I stay upstairs or I go downstairs. In the middle of the night, I ain't trying to do no aiming. Just in and out. Yeah, bro. I'm trying to get sleep because I ain't got to turn the light on.

You know, if you turn the light on, it's over for me. If I turn the light on, I ain't going back to sleep the rest of the night. If it's 1 o'clock, 2 o'clock, I'm staying up till 4. Yeah, I'm up. Okay. So, I'm sorry. Housekeeping, I'm up. Okay. I'm sorry. Housekeeping. I'm really sorry about that.

That was Jordan. He was in room 1407. His name was Jordan Barber. That was him. That was him. So, y'all want to charge him a little extra for cleaning up his room

I ain't even mad at you guys uh yeah oh Joe she look I think she's going to be great I think there's a learning curve that comes along with this it's just like I mean they've been very I mean there's some rookies I mean there's a learning curve for Kobe

there's a learning curve for a lot of guys there are very few guys that come in that's ready to play like a seven, eight, 18 year old LeBron or like a 21 year old Michael Jordan. Normally there's learning curve for rookies or you get a guy like a Tim Duncan. I mean,

but Tim Duncan, Tim Duncan, guys like that, they don't grow a tree. Like there've been one player in WNBA history that was rookie of the year and MVP. Her name was Candice Parker. Everybody know how great

Candice Parker was. So to think that Kaitlyn Clark was going to come in and just replicate that into what? The 25, 26, 27 year history of the WNBA? This one won. Think about all the great players that come in after her. The Stewies,

the Taurasis, the Maya Moores, the Simone Augustus. None of them did that. Yeah. And she's going to get better as time goes. No, she's absolutely going to get better. And also, once she gets acclimated to the game tempo, the game speed, and when the game starts to become slow and it slows down for her, then we're going to see a replication of what she was doing at Iowa.

How long that takes is all on her. You see the difference is she's had a lot of turnovers. See the stuff that she could get away with in college? You can't get away with that. Oh, no. Everybody's athletically a little bit better, a little faster, athletically gifted. So you're not going to be able to get away most of that stuff you did in college. Think about it, Ocho. How you can run an out route,

be lazy with it. Be lazy with an out route in the NFL and see what happens to it. It's going the other way. Yeah, it's going the other way. Hey, you going to have the ball? Hey, okay. You can't be lazy with no route. These guys are two, even the worst corner.

You get lazy with a route. Yeah. Going the other way. It's really simple. Offensive lineman. Sometimes offensive lineman in college, they so much better. Oh, they just dominate them guys. Look at Tony Mandarich.

He was dominating guys in college. Yeah. Boy, got to the NFL and couldn't block the sun out his eyes. It was good and terrible when you that big when you're an offensive lineman right and you that big what they gonna put you at ocho see if you're a defensive lineman right i can move you to the office because you got a mentality i can just teach you some technique. If you're an offensive lineman, you ain't going to be number two, big ass equipment manager.

Yeah. You know what I'm saying? You could be six foot four, handing out towels and washing pants. You in the way. That's it. You in the way. So it's a,

it's a different mindset from college to the end up to the NFL, whatever the level. When they hear us say there's levels to this. Yes. Yeah. mindset from college to the NFL, whatever the level. When they hear us say there's levels to this, you go to the Louis Vuitton store. There are some bags that's out, you can grab them. There's some bags in that glass case. It's still the same Louis store, but there's levels to this.

That's all I'm saying. But she's doing, hey, she's getting better. You you see the first game she got cut down on some of those turnovers because the stuff that you were trying in college these women ain't gonna let you get away with that it's not gonna happen but congratulations Caitlin hey we know you haven't won a game yet but it's coming

it's coming oh they play again on Monday night. Don't they play the Connecticut Suns? Y'all need to get the Suns. Matter of fact, Ash right there by you? Yeah. Ask Ash when Atlanta, the Atlanta team play. I'm going to Atlanta. I'm going

to Atlanta Sunday for three days. When is that? If they have a next home game. When their next home game? Atlanta Dream? Yeah. Yeah. I'm'm gonna be in Atlanta Dream the Dream playing right now Ash when the next time they play after tonight at home

I'm gonna try try to catch a game the 21st which is Tuesday oh at home bingo I'm gonna go to them me and Rel

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Hold on. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Whoa, come on, man. Hold on, hold on. Time out, time out, time out, time out. Okay, what's up, Ocho? So how you gonna allow the people to get a nightcap mug

before I even got my own mug? And I'm part of the show and I was begging for the mug. I think it might have been three weeks ago. I ain't got my goddamn mug yet. I tell you what I do. You don't even drink coffee the way I drink coffee. I'll be willing to swap you.

I'll send you a case of nightcap mug if you send me the Webby. Nah, go ahead. You keep that mug. You keep that mug. You keep that mug You keep that mug I got my way with you putting up in the case Uh-uh

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Yeah, I need that too. I need that synopsis. They say we'll start. It's not coming. It's all right. It's all right. That's all right. We're We gonna be at many more Award shows

In the future and I'm gonna make sure I'm leaving with my own Award We got the Shorty Awards but we're not going to those We got the Shorty Awards coming up Wednesday Why are we not going? Well you can go

Well tell me can go. Well, tell me to go because I'm going to get my... We'll be in Vegas. No, I'll be in Vegas. Okay, you tell me where the shorty awards are. I'm going to go on behalf of both of us. Okay. Okay.

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time she went 2207 in the open 200 she beat some Gary Thomas she added the 200 to her. She's working on speed work because, you know, Femme Cabal, they've been hyping Femme Cabal in the 400. She said,

I'm going to come back. Y'all know who this is. I'm Sidney McLaughlin. McLaughlin, Lebroni. If I'm not mistaken, I think she married a good friend of mine, Kevin Lebroni. He was a professional bodybuilder. I think that's his nephew. Okay. Look here. Y'all need to stop. i'm one of the most versatile women in the history of track and field oh yeah shereka jackson can make a case to that because shereka jackson has won

medals at the 400 the 200 and 100 but sydney yeah gotta go got a gold medal at the olympics she got the silver medal if i'm'm not mistaken, in the Open Four. And so could she win? She went 22-07. And she came off the turn. It was a wrap? Hey, Abby Steiner was in that race. We know Abby Steiner, who's run, I think, 21-8. Gabby Thomas has won 21-65.

And she blew the doors off him. So, would I be surprised? I wouldn't be surprised if Sid went sub-50 in the full hurdle. In the full? She might be the only woman. She right now. Madarina Koch, world record of 4760 in the open four. There've only been two women

to ever go sub 48 in the 400. Right. There's a check. She has the world record in the 800 meters. She went 4799. Madarina Koch went 4760. I think Sid has the ability to go sub-48.

Yeah, most definitely. Listen, I didn't even know Sid had the foot speed. I know she had the strength for the 400. She had the strength for the eight. And her kick is unbelievable. Yeah. 400 hurdles. You know how strong you got to be?

Oh, yeah. You got to be. I love that. 400 hurdles up. Hey, my guy. Nephew, Rob Benjamin. Congratulations on you. Hey, world-leading time.

46-64. In the 400. He just went. Alisson Dos Santos went 46-86 last week. He dropped it down to 46-64. Now, we haven't seen the Viking run. The Norwegian, Karsten Warholm. Now, we haven't seen the Viking run, the Norwegian, Carsten Warhol.

He's the only man to go sub 46 in the full hurdles. And when we thought, I remember when Young, Kevin Young, in 92. Right. He went 46, 76. I was like, man. And it took him, what, 92? So it took him about 22 years, 21 years to go that. He took it even further.

So could we possibly see another world record with the way Dos Santos is running, the way Rhyme's running, and we know Carson Warhol. He loves to take the race out and say, come catch me if you can. So could we see another world record? Yes. I expect to see a world record? Yes. I expect to see a world record in the women's 400. I believe Sid can go below 50, 68. You know she went

to school, right? Who said she went to Kentucky? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, she got Bobby Kersey. Now we know Bobby Kersey, hey, Bobby Kersey have him ready to run. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. You know where some adult at, right? She at Kentucky?

Yeah, my daughter, yeah. She run track at Kentucky. But all those girls with me, Abby Steiner with the Kentucky, Kenny Harrison with the Kentucky, Macho Quinn, Camacho Quinn, JCQ went to Kentucky.

Oh, hey, they got him. JCQ went to Kentucky oh they got them you know yeah they real deal but I just want to give a shout out to Sidney McLaughlin ran to a lifetime

best in the 200 meters that's not a special congratulations Sid 2207 Rod Benjamin went 46-64 in the four hurdles like I said

I'm expecting world records I think the world record in both events is going to fall Okay Now it's time for our very, very, very First segment of the day Newscap!

Newscap! Hey The Chiefs face an unprecedented schedule No NFL team has faced in nearly a century KC is hoping to become the first team To secure an elusive feat The Chiefs face an unprecedented schedule no NFL team has faced in nearly a century. KC is hoping to become the first team to secure an elusive feat, winning three consecutive Super Bowls. The path will be a difficult one,

even for Kansas City. No team has even made a Super Bowl appearance, much less won the game after winning the past two Super Bowls. The closest, the 49ers, lost in the NFC Championship game, if I'm not mistaken. I think they lost 13-10. They lost to the Giants.

That was the year the Giants ended up beating Buffalo with the wide right kick. But there's an expected element. Ocho, the Chiefs will play on six different days of the week. They'll become the first team to do so since the 1927 New York Yankees, according to NFL research. The Chiefs will become the first team in the Super Bowl era to play a Sunday night game,

a Sunday game, a Monday game, a Wednesday game, Thursday game, a Friday game, and a Saturday game. I think they got like three games. Don't they got like three games in like 15 days?

Yeah. I think they got a stretch. Oh, Joe, I think it's like a couple of teams that kind of got that schedule like that. But they play Sunday, Monday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday. They sound like they're playing Pop Warner. That's what we used to do in Pop Warner. Yeah, damn sure it does. And when I think about this, the way Saturday. Hell, they sound like they're playing Pop Warner. That's what we used to do in Pop Warner. Yeah, it damn sure does.

And when I think about this, the way the scheduling is, and obviously I'm assuming, not assuming, I know the NFL is giving them this grueling schedule, obviously the hardest schedule in the NFL amongst the other 31 teams.

Do you think the NFL is ruining a potential three-peat by trying to capitalize on the Taylor Swift attendance? Do you think this has anything to do with it? Why would not? Okay, I'm just curious. Let me ask you, Ocho.

The NFL is a business. Yeah. What are businesses in business to do? Make money. Make money. Make money. Most businesses are not non-profit. Non-profit.

Okay, this is a-profit. Okay. This is a profit business. Okay. Now, in the process, these streaming services. The games on Christmas are going to be streamed on Netflix. Remember, I told you. These streaming services want to be taken serious. See, right.

What's the way to be taken serious? I got to have live events. Let me give me an NFL game. NFL, we'll give you $100 million. We'll give you $50 million for one game. Oh, y'all will? Okay, how about I give you two? How much you give me? There's only so many times you can do alternate

jerseys. There's only so many times you can do throwbacks. There's only so many different helmets you can do.backs. There's only so many different helmets you can do. Really, the way to increase revenue is to give the fans, give these networks what they want. More football games. The

fans want it and the networks want to give it to them. And so, Amazon, Netflix, get games. Obviously, the big CBS, NBC, Fox, ESPN, you're going to get, you got the big four. So now we got streaming.

So YouTube, they bought the ticket. That's crazy. Roger Goodell said by 2025, he was looking to have the NFL, what you call them, yearly revenue at $25 billion. Right now, at about 2021, with a year to go.

Hey, he right. Think about what these franchises, think about the value of these franchises. Remember, Jerry Jones bought the Cowboys in 1989 for about $130 million. They're worth about $9 billion. A billion now, yeah. So people, let me ask you at home. If I told you to say, hey, put away $1,000, put away $10,000,

and the next year I want you to save $10,000, and in 30 years, it'll be worth $50 million. It makes sense. These franchises you ain't buying a franchise for less than 4 billion. The Broncos went for 4.5. The Washington

excuse me sorry no disrespect. The Commanders went for 6 billion. Prices ain't coming down. It's only going to continue to increase. Jacksonville is looking, the city is looking to build, help build them a

$1.5 billion state of the art. That's Jacksonville. That's small market. Yes. Yes. Oh. They only got that bag now. Yeah, oh yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, absolutely. All the owners got the bag. They got the bag. A lot of them, they didn't start. I mean, obviously, you look at teams like chicago virginia mccaskey she's the daughter of george hallis a lot of the they're in a whole lot of mom and pops is what i'm trying to say the earth saves have been at it the bid wells have been at it for the most part these a lot of these new owners came they had other businesses ended up buying this

you know so you know you look at Stan Kroenke he owned the Nuggets he owned the Avs he owned the Rams he owned a soccer team what he owned is it Arsenal which soccer team does he own Stan got his hand

in a soccer team too does he what team is it Arsenal Stan got his hand in the soccer team too? Does he? What team? Is it Arsenal? Arsenal Man Stan on Arsenal? Mm-hmm The Nuggets

The Avalanche And the Rams too Yes Let me call Stan man I could be over there playing with soccer And I'm an older guard I'm finna sit here and let me get on call Stan, man. I could be over there playing with soccer and Odegaard. I'm finna sit here and let me get on. Let me give me a try

with Arsenal, man. Yeah. They're building these state-of-the-art stadiums that's multiplex. They can hold concerts. They can hold track-to-pools, truck mud-bogging. You got to do more than just play football games in a stadium to make it profitable. Look at Jerry. You know, you got to have multiple, because you got to do more than just play football games in the stadium

to make it profitable. Yeah. You know, you have these, look at, look at Jerry. You see what Jerry, and then you guess what?

Think about each NFL team got $300 million from TV contracts. Now that's not tight talking about local naming rights to your stadium. AT&T probably plays Jerry Jones about $20 million just to say that's the AT&T stadium. AT&T probably plays Jerry Jones about $20 million

just to say that's the AT&T stadium. AT&T stadium, yeah. Okay, now we got local TV rights. We got concession. We got parking. Jerry is the only one that has his own deal that he's not,

that he, all the merchandise. So he prints up, somebody does something, he can print a T-shirt, boom. Have it out to you the next day. Mm-hmm. So now, so you see how profitable it is.

Damn. Oh, yeah. That's crazy. Yeah. We're going to watch it. We're going to be busy because there's going to be a Sunday game, a Monday game, a Wednesday game, a Thursday game, a Friday game, a Saturday, Sunday.

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