Club Shay Shay - Nightcap - Hour 1: Mavs lied about Luka, KD says cancel ASG, Ant not face of NBA

Episode Date: February 18, 2025

Shannon Sharpe and Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson react to The Athletic dropping an article today about the Mavs wanting Luka to use injury time off to improve conditioning. Later, Unc and Ocho discuss Phoenix Suns Kevin Durant suggesting to “cancel All-Star weekend” and give the players a break during that time, Minnesota Timberwolves Anthony Edwards doesn’t consider himself a top contender for being the face of the NBA and much more!05:30 - Show start05:46 - Intro07:10 - Mavericks wanted Luka to Use Injury Time for Conditioning26:10 - Wemby’s upcoming pay day29:00 - Kevin Durant on All-Star Break36:00 - Oscar Robertson on Draymond Green40:45 - Anthony Edwards on being the face of the league56:00 - Caitlin Clark’s getting paid her worth1:05:35 - Trevor Lawerence doesn’t want to go to the Steelers(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Ocho's wearing the hoodie. The link is pinned at the top of the chat. Supplies are limited and once they're gone, they're gone. Ocho, let's get right into it. The Athletic dropped an article today about the MAF. The MAF wanted Luca to use the injury time off to improve conditioning. According to the article in November,

Luca missed five games with what the Mavericks announced was a right wrist sprain. That injury was classification was not entirely true, being reported. In reality, Luca was supposed to use the time off to improve his conditioning, team sources said. It was the one of the straws that broke the proverbial camel's back.

Wait a minute, because he decided not to use the time off for conditioning? That was the straw that broke the camel's back? That's what we reported. This will be Lucas first season playing fewer than 60 games. Now here's the kicker where everybody's like, well, hold on, wait a minute. On the other side, AD is six years older and has failed to compete in 60 games four of the last six seasons.

Right, well something ain't making no sense, huh? Something is not making any sense because you're trading for somebody and you trade your better player that's played over 60 games for most of his career outside of one. Correct. And you're bringing somebody that hasn't played in over 60 games, four out of five of the last season.

So something may make a mess. That's why I think, and I still think today, whatever the true reason is that they traded Luca, it hasn't been said yet. I believe two things can be true. I believe they had grown frustration with trying to tell Luke about his conditioning. I also believe they didn't want to pay him $450 million. Hey, hey, even though I just started watching basketball, when you name the top three players in the NBA right now, is Luke one of the three?

When he's at his best, yes. Case closed. I don't need to hear no more. But let me ask you a question. Let's just say for the sake of argument. Let me ask you a question. Let's just say for the sake of argument. Coach Belichick, he resigned.

Tom Brady's in year, year five. He's already won three Super Bowls, but he resides. Uh, Andy Reed, after last year, said, you know what? I'm good. You don't think people would go like, well, hold on. Why you still got a guy that's in his prime? What's really going on? And I think the thing for me, my, my attention, my, I got like, hold on.

You mean to tell me Rick Carlisle has a guy that's 23 years of age and he don't want to contract extension. He'd rather go coach Indiana. I don't know about that one. It don't make no sense even for Rick Carlisle, because even if you do go to Indiana, even if you do go to Indiana, you still don't have about that one. It don't make no sense even for Rick Carlisle because even if you do go to Indiana, even if you do go to Indiana, you still don't have a player like what you got over here in Dallas, especially that.

So as a coach, as a coach, you notice whether it be football for Andy Reid, he had Donovan McNam. He's never had, we never had a factor of a home zone. Players like this come around every so often, especially one as special as Luca, you don't leave and go somewhere else because of problems with conditioning things that can actually be fixed, especially when the product itself, when it touches the court, it gives you that kind of goddamn production. But they don't, but see, you said it can be fixed.

They were wanting him to fix it and he wasn't fixing it. Can I ask what you- That's the thing. Ocho, what happens if the team, if the team says, Ocho, we want you to be here on camp. We want you, hey, at some point in time, they gonna get tired of telling you. Now, if we, let's just fast forward right quick

to Aaron Rodgers. What did Aaron Rodgers say this year? He said at the beginning of season, if we don't get this thing right, we're all gonna be out of here. Joe Douglas is gone, Robert Sala is gone, Nathaniel Hackett is gone, Aaron Rodgers is gone. They're looking at it like, hold on,

if we don't get this thing right with Luca, we all gonna be up out of here. Can I ask you a question? Yes. When it comes to the game of basketball, you know, football. Yes. When it comes to any game of basketball, you know, football. Yes. When it comes to any sport, it's all about what?

It's about your superstars. Your superstars, and they have to do what consistently? Outside of updating your resume, you have to perform. You have to perform. Yes. At any point in Luger's career, have his number decrease? No. What are number decrease? No. What are we arguing?

No. What are we talking about? Contestinating, too fat, too slow. The number have remained the same and he's been consistent. I get that. But everybody see, everybody keeps saying, do this, do this. That's easy to say when it's not your 450 million.

See, it's easy to say, I would do this. It's not your money. People leave a restaurant and don't go back when they don't get good service on a $60 tab. What you're going to do when you got 400 million and that money is fully guaranteed because a lot of times if you get a bad meal on show, they'll say, you know what, Mr. Johnson, we're going to take this off. This one's on us.

When you sign a $400 million contract, players ain't giving you ash ish back. Wait, but the one thing players are, players are played based on performance on the hardwood. On the hardwood. His performance has always been the heat. It's always the cream of the crop. He's always been top of the list in almost every statistical category. So you're not going to, okay, you can say it because they actually did it. You're not going to tell me, me, that's why I'm not a GM. That's

why I'm not in that position. That's not why I'm sitting in that seat, in that high seat, making judgment calls on who I should keep and who I should play. Because there ain't no way in hell I'm trading Luca and nothing when it comes to producing on the court is going wrong. Whether he's fat, whether he's skinny, whether he's out of shape.

Because if you're doing what you're doing while you're out of shape, imagine if I could get the right people with you or convince you to get in shape. Man. Do you have the right people? You do realize that when they hire superstar, when you get a superstar, they bring your people on. They let you bring your people on, right?

Okay. You do realize that it ain't like football. Now Tom Brady had a very unique circumstance where he got had his guy right there with him, but most football teams don't do that. NBA teams allow you to do that. You know what I can't say? Mike Macias traveled with LeBron. He always has.

Randy Mims traveled with LeBron, always has. So you said the right people, hell he got the people that he wanted around him. He's in the right place now. He's in the right place now, but with someone that- Well, I hope he looks at and puts on LeBron like, damn, this man playing like this in year 22. Oh, LeBron ain't even let him take no shortcuts.

Not over there. Absolutely not. Not only are you able to watch, but you're able to see someone that's done it for 20-something odd years at the highest level and is actually the NBA's all time leading score. Lucas looking at that, LeBron is talking to him. You know, they're going to have that talk. I know he had that talk before because all the rumbling through the media. I love that conversation.

I would love insight on how you've been able to do it this goddamn long. How about I do you know what? How about I change up a routine? How about I tighten up on my discipline and my structure and the way I do things and my approach to the game? Well, if I'm already great and I'm somewhat lazy in a sense in my approach to preparing for the game and I'm playing extremely well, what happens if I tighten up the motherfuckers? Almost cursed. What happens if I tighten up the bolts and approach the game of basketball

the way LeBron does? Ain't no telling what I can achieve and I'm already great right now. But everybody doesn't have that mindset, Ocho. I think LeBron came in, I think he had a couple of goals. He wanted to be considered the best player to ever play the game. He wanted to play as long as he possibly could. So he took the steps very early on. If you hear people talk about when LeBron was in high school, you hear people talk about LeBron when he first got there, how everything is so routine, is so regimented from his rest time to his nap, to his stretching, getting to the arena.

So many got hours early, getting his work, getting his lift in, getting his shots up everything for 22 years. Structure, structure, structure, discipline, discipline, discipline, discipline. Everybody doesn't want that, Ocho. Right, but this is another one. LeBron didn't have a goddamn choice. Understand coming out of high school, the odds were stacked against him. All the pressure was on him.

The expectations were out the roof. So he had no choice but to approach the game of basketball being the chosen one, come out of high school. Hell, they said 10th grade. I think you said it yourself, 10th grade, he could have came and played in the NBA right then and now. I think a situation, when you look at Luca, Luca had been a professional since he was 16. Oh, that's right. He had a lot of expectations placed on him.

People thought he was going to be good. I didn't think he was going to be this good. Because everybody said, no, he can play. I was like, bro, he played. When he said it's easier to score in the NBA than it is in Europe, I say this kid out his damn mind. And lo and behold, he ain't making me out to be a liar. He never averaged the amount of points

he's averaged over Europe as he's doing here. He's averaged 29 points a game for his career. He's averaged, has the second highest playoff scoring average behind Jordan. I think, you think over in Europe where he was playing. I can't remember where, I don't remember exactly where. Do you think they played better defense? You think that's what it is?

Are the dimensions of the court a little smaller? There has to be some type of difference. I think the thing is Ocho is that the game is not as free flowing as it is here every day. I mean, you run plays, they don't let you do a whole lot of ice over there. So, you know, it's kind of like Coach Smith, Coach Smith when he's at North Carolina.

The only guy that can keep Michael Jordan under 20 points a game was Coach Smith because of his offense, didn't allow him to get loose. I got you. Nobody saw Michael being able to do what he did in the NBA based on what he did in college. Same thing with Anthony Davis. Anthony Davis was a defensive player at Kentucky.

I didn't see this kind of offense from him. Now he was a sensational defensive player. I'm surprised he doesn't have a defensive player of the year already considering the way he can slide, the way he can challenge at multiple position, guard multiple position, tremendous in the piggy role, weak side help. I'm surprised he doesn't have one already. but it's his offense. That's been most impressive

He went to major made mainly a put back dunk law player tonight. He has a mid-range now He can take it all the way out to three Luca you look at that look you like well. Yeah, he get some points. He can lay a 18 19 points a game But look at you play it again. Will he come over here and play against grown me and he averaged 34 game. Hey Tell me if I'm wrong When I watch the little play All their moves look like it's in slow motion Or am I tripping?

Not only do it move look like is in slow motion. They they work every goddamn time motion they they work every goddamn time. Yeah, no, he doesn't have quick quick twitch fibers like a Kyrie. Nope. Or I'm trying to think or who else is it really explosive? I watched the Westbrook. Obviously, he's a bigger man. Jarman Rand. No, you don't have that explosive like those guys. Like in the moves that he does have, they work every time. And I swear, maybe it's because I'm watching from TV, it look like it's a slow motion.

Yeah, yeah, he is. And that's why you can't time him up. Because while you done jump, he ain't left the ground yet. And when you on your way out, when you on your way down, he on his way up. So now he gonna get an A in one or he gonna get you a filing. So he plays at his pace.

He's not going to allow you to speed him up and make him play at your pace. He's really good. He can get off any shot. He's a lot bigger than you think. He has a lot bigger body than you think. And he's stronger than you think because you're looking at him and you're like,

I don't see not one definition. Only definition I see is that if you got a dictionary in your hand, definition is in there. That's the only definition I see. But it's the same thing with Yoke when you look at Yoke-age. You don't see no definition but he give me a 30, 22, and 18. And why every time I watch Yoke, every time I watch Denver play, why he always look tired the whole game? It looks like he breathing hard the whole game, but everybody take a shot.

It's going in. More free paper. It's working. But look, I think the thing is that's a lot. I mean, look, we're going to see. I'm trying to think the next guy that's available, that's really good, that can get this kind of money. It might be Ant-Man. You said, you said, um, Shay. But Shay can't get a super max like this

because he got traded, remember? That's right, that's right. See, Ant-Man got, Ant-Man has been with drafted to Timberwolves. Ant-Man on Wimby. Oh, Wimby's definitely finna get it. He definitely finna get it. Well, look at Ant-Man, ain't no reason he should get it too. I know the wolves ain't finna pull no slick stuff over there.

They ain't got no choice but to give it to him. Yeah, so that's gonna be very interesting. So, uh, Yeah, 450 million for five years. And so guess what? If you pay it back, guess what? He come back to the table in five years old children. Now you gotta pay him 500 million for five years. So Ant-Man has a possibility to get five year 450 million. Yes. Yes. Boy, what baby?

Man, man, please. Yep, he does. He has that opportunity. He'll win me. Those are the guys that can get that super max. Hey, do you understand? You didn't hear what I just said. You're not listening to me. I don't understand Maybe the people in the chat can't hear me five years

450 million that's not even talk about a divas contracts other contracts other endorsements that you get on the side They have stopped playing man. Hey, okay the table again Yes, and-Man is 23. Oh, Lord. Hey. What? Hey, I don't know. I still might got it. No.

So, I think, look, he's, Lucas, I'm sure he, I mean, he caught him by surprise because obviously there's a lot of pride in situations like that because a lot of times when you get to that level, you think you're untrainable. You're untouchable. And so boom. And like, he didn't know. He didn't know because you know how he didn't know? How nobody knew?

It didn't get out. Two people knew. Obviously, no, four people knew. know because you know how you didn't know how nobody knew it didn't get out. Two people knew obviously no four people knew because obviously Rob got to ask to go run this by Jeannie and, and, and Nico Harrison got to go run it by Robert DuBont. So four people knew. Four people, not there, not there. And you hear New Kinslayer say, Hey, right before it happened, we told people. Not there, not there. And you hear New Kinsler A, right before it happened, we told people. Because you know it's going to get, a trade this big on Joe? If the normal agents and players know it, always get now.

It's getting out. There's two of you. The fact that Nico and Rob were able to keep it just between themselves and really not let anybody else know, because if they didn't let anybody else know when it got out, they didn't know exactly where it came from. They know exactly where it came from. 350, my bad, I said 450, 350, 350, five years, 350. So about 70 million.

So by the time, what you call them come out, Ant-Man, it probably be about 355, 360. Listen, maybe more. Oh, because here's the thing. Until next year, that new CBA going to exist. 11 years, 76, 11 years, 77 billion. So by the time Wimby come, it might, it might be five years, 400 million. Cause this is only Wimby's second year and they normally do the what?

Three year, four year? Hey. And Wimby's only what? Twenty? I think Wimby's twenty. Hey, that's some, that's some, we gonna get there now. You hear me? We gonna, we, we're hungry.

If you hungry, you can hear. We gonna see that. We gonna see that kind of money too. And I'm gonna, I'm gonna tell you how, I'm not even gonna tell you how we gonna see it, but we gonna see that kind of money. You hear me? We on, we on the right path. We on the right path.

We on the right path. We on the right path. We on the right path. We on the right path. We on the right path. We on the right path. We on the right path. We on the right path. We gonna see that we gonna see that kind of money too And I'm gonna tell you how I'm not gonna tell you how we gonna see it But we gonna see that kind of money. You hear me? We only we only we on the right direction Hey, now we like it but we gonna see a hundred million We might see 200 and I'm gonna tell you how because I had a dream I'm not talking I'm not talking about like Martin Luther King. I had a dream. I saw the vision

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my bullishness and arrogance to want to be great hardened me. It gave me a platform to be so singularly focused on greatness. hardened me. It gave me a platform to be so singularly focused on greatness. We all have moments like this. Something happens that's supposed to break us. But it's in these moments that we discover what we're really made of. I promise you, if anyone knows this, it's me. I'm Ashlyn Harris. Okay. Wimby Yama becomes a super max eligible player, meaning his rookie extension based salary will be 30% of the salary cap instead of 25. When he enters his eighth year, he'll be 35% max eligible as opposed to the traditional 30%. So whatever the cap is, he's entitled to 35% of that.

Damn. So he's available for 20, 30% of it, of his rookie extension. Hey, hey. That's what, so he's gonna be worth 35% of that. No, he's worth 30% of that. No, he's worth 30% of this Listen, he were he worth every penny. Hey, we can be is everything advertised Every yeah, man every bit of it. So whatever penny he get he's earning every bit of it watching Ant-Man play

Every penny he's gonna get he's worth every bit Yeah, when we win be is definitely going to be the first 400 million player I like it and speaking of remember I told you I was gonna start investing in going to the basketball game so I can be better suited Jason Taylor about to hit that he just like think about look what you Jason Taylor just got he just got three what 320 He 20 seconds He's 20? He's 26? But that's, but what about those next four years? If 455, he'll be 31.

So 30, so what's his next contract gonna be? His next contract might be, hey, he might hit that 400. He just got 320. It's hard to see a scenario, he's gonna be 31, Ocho, for him not to get another super max. That's nasty work, damn boy. That's nasty work, boy. It's great money if you can get it. Oh yeah, absolutely.

But you got to understand, you wanted the best in the world. You wanted the one percenters, nah. And that's what I meant to tell you, right? Before we go on. What? I just got Quartz Side tickets. The Timberwolves play the Heat, March 7th. Yeah, March 7th or March 6th, something like that, whatever

it was. I'm sitting right next to the bench, sitting right next to Bam, right? I'm a church at Anthony Edwards the whole game. The whole game is the same way Spike Lee do. And I want to make sure I'm better suited to talk about basketball so I can sound like Tim Legger. So I can sound like Doris Burke or George Sadano and when I come on here and you and you wonder what the hell happened to me and why I'm talking about the game the way I am as if I played it all my life you know why yeah okay Ocho so you know the discourse about the NBA wouldn't be complete without KD chiming in KD this is what he tweeted I think it's more fun to complain about the NBA than actually watch it. Crazy!

Cancel All-Star Weekend. Let's just give everybody a break since we're so miserable around this time. Ocho, what you got? I understand KD's frustrations. I wouldn't even call it frustration. I think he's more so, listen, it's All-Star break. We ain't trying to hurt ourselves. We've tried to create different formats to appease you as fans, to appease the viewers, and it's not working. Well, you know what? How about we just cancel all of this

because no matter what we do, we can't make y'all happy. We failed at it. Adam Silver has failed. The players have failed. We don't wanna play because I think, for one, as much as the players make, in anything that you do, whether it be in the corporate world, whether it be in sports, anytime money's involved and it's incentivized, it makes you want to do whatever it is a little bit harder, even though they make so much.

That's why that was my suggestion yesterday. Have some type of format where it's incentivized, where they can make a huge chunk of change, even though it makes millions during the regular season. Cause outside of that, they already had a few money. So trying to get them to play the All-Star game ain't going to happen. That's why they shooting the 103s and throwing 200 alley-oops. That's what you're going to get. He obviously, Katie was being sarcastic.

He's tired of hearing the criticism about the all star game and the all star game format and uh, and uh, about not playing hard and things of that nature. KD is one of the ones he hear what people saying and it's his product and he's proud of the type of game that he plays, but everybody is not proud of the type of performance that a lot of the guys give at the all of game that he plays, but everybody is not proud of the type of performance that a lot of the guys give at the All-Star game. And, you know, they voice their displeasure. It'd have been interesting to see, I would have loved to have seen,

had Twitter been around in the 90s, early 2000s, what would have been said. I think now, because you have social media on show, and we don't have to wait, we don't have to just get our information, because we can go online. If we got a problem with something, how could I, if I didn't like something,

how could I say it, Ocho? I couldn't say it, but at the barbershop, now I can get online, I can get on the play up, I can get on the play up profile, his timeline. Man, you suck. Yeah, and talk some trash. And honestly, I think it's a great thing. I think it's a great thing, I think it's a great thing. I think it's a great thing.

I think it's a great thing for fans. It gives everybody a voice. It gives everybody reason, whether right or wrong. Whether right or wrong. And for players, especially athletes, elite athletes, like a KD, LeBron as well, sometimes they engage back. I think for people that are fans of certain players or just fan of whatever sports you play, just knowing that you can, even

if they don't respond, knowing that you can ask someone that you like or dislike and send a message, whether they see it or not, I think that's one of the greatest feelings in the world. I think it is. I really think it is. I mean, obviously. I agree. I agree. Go ahead, go ahead. No, I'm saying I agree with you.

You know, some guys don't pay any attention. KD is one of those guys that he's gonna respond if he thinks you've been, I mean, he doesn't respond to all things, but he responds to enough of them. He's one of the guys that probably respond more than anybody. I like that. Maybe any professional athlete that I know.

And not just any athlete. We talk about one of the best to ever play the game. You got one of the best to ever play the game that's great right now, that takes his time out to engage with people, whether it's negative or positive. That's a good thing. That's a great thing. And I wish more players were like that.

And most of them that have accounts, they have other people running their account. You know, all they do is post, um, you know, stuff that is, uh, promoting things that they are doing, you know, sponsors and endorsements and stuff like that. And wherever clothing or whatever it may be, but people like Katie and LeBron at times, they actually, they turk back and forth. LeBron don't really do it. I mean, it's gotta be something really, really outrageous for LeBron to respond.

He normally just like, he's heard so much of it. He's almost damn near desensitized. I mean, that's why people was really surprised that when he responded to Chuck, because he's like, he's been dealing with it from day one. Nobody has been talked about as much, nobody's been as criticized as much. He understands now that comes along with the territory. There haven't been a guy that's been more polarizing.

The gamut of emotions, I like it, I dislike it. I love him. I hate it. No player. Modern sports. You probably have to go. No in between too. It ain't nothing. Ain't no offense. It's one side of the. LeBron responded to something. I guess. What's the guy's name? He won two, finally won two games. What's the guy's name? Yeah. Hey, when, hey listen. Brian, Brian, Brian, wait for that one.

Why? Did Doug say something about him in the past? Cause that's the only reason why he would do something like that. Always, always, always, always. Oh, so he was smart for the morning. And so that's, but see, a lot of, a lot of times you got to be smart enough and a lot of these players are smart enough. Why am I going to lend my audience your ear?

So oh he went hard on Ronnie. Okay, okay. I knew I had to be. Oh, but here's the thing. How many, how many, how many, but look, there are a lot of people. Go back and look at the jobs. I think 80% of the jobs are filled and never advertised. Hey man, I'm, hey, they hired whoever my job.

You ought to put in the application. They didn't list the job, but somebody told you they were hiring. Boom, you got in. Or you got somebody that works there that knows somebody, hey, my buddy looking for a job. Oh, tell him to come on in, I'd love to sit down and talk to him.

But now, it's cool when they do it, it's a problem when we do it. Also now, when you just told me that, and you said you were talking about brawling, now it makes sense for the context and what LeBron tweeted. Er, you. Give an iron.

No, I get it. So let me ask you a question. How many of these coach's sons just get put on the staff? Oh, all the time. It happens all the time. It happens all the time. All the time. Not a peep, not a sound about it. Not a peep, not a sound. Now obviously LeBron being in a special position that he that he's in and if anybody else will afford that opportunity To be one of the best to ever play the game and have an opportunity to get his son to play alongside him You think I wouldn't do that? Of course, I may stop playing please you try to put your kids in the best situation possible

Always that's what you strive for Yes Always, that's what you strive for. Yes. Speaking of critiquing the NBA, Oscar Robertson has some ish to say about Draymond saying the NBA is boring. Let's take a listen to what the big old had to say. Well, out of Draymond said so much,

who cares what Draymond says, it doesn't mean anything. You know, people, this is what I mean. You know what I mean? One guy can say this, then one guy can say that. The game is the game is what it is. People either like the game or they don is what it is people either like the game Or they don't and I think people enjoy the game

especially if their team can win and if you look at the basketball it might be boring him because If he's not passed the ball to Kerry, what is he doing? The single that out because I think he knows how to play basketball But he's passed his ball to Kerry more than anyone I've ever seen in basketball. So it means a lot. So, you know, it might be boring to him at times because what he's doing, maybe it is boring when he's out there. He's not getting, he's not shooting, he's not shooting a lot.

He's not guarding a lot. So it's boring. Man, the big old, big old cookie. Listen, he going to tell it like it is, huh? That's one thing the OGs, you know, the older folks gonna do, especially when you criticize the game of basketball today, they gonna find everything, every critique wrong with your game,

why you playing right now and why you find it boring based on what you say. Now, is he right? Yes, in some sense. And he can also be wrong. So you can agree to disagree because Andrey Mon feels exactly how it feels for a reason. But if you know anything about the big O, this is who he is. He's always, he's always spoken up.

He's always said exactly what was on his mind. Now a lot of guys like, Hey, you know, Hey, blah, blah, blah. But that's not how he is. He's gonna get right to the point and says, okay, well, let me tell you why it's boring because you don't get to shoot. You pass the ball, you sit and scream. That ain't no fun. I mean, but listen, that's, that's the the player he is That's not what he does. Obviously right. He is not his game, you know setting screens passing being an enforcer. That's what dream on does That's what he does. So obviously that part of his game. It has to be enjoyable Just when it comes to certain certain aspects of it, especially now at all star game. It's boring

Well, when you look at it, Ocho, I look at it like this. What am I good at? If I'm doing what I'm good at, I'm having fun. If I'm a scorer, but I'm not scoring, it ain't no fun. Draymond is a defensive player. Pat Bell is a defensive player. You look at defensive guys that are limited or challenged offensively, they get excitement on the defending.

An offensive player gets satisfaction out of scoring. Well, if I'm not scoring, what's my use again? Because everybody can't play both sides of the ball. That's a very, very, very, very, very few players that at an elite level could both put the ball. That's a very, very, very, very, very few players that at an elite level could both put the ball in the basket and limit somebody on the other end. You're talking about an Elijah one. You're talking about a Jordan. You're talking about a Colby. You're talking about a Tim Duncan. You talk about David Robinson. You talk about LeBron when

he was in his prime. There are very few guys that could give you 30 on one end. And if a guy's averaging 30, hold him under that. There ain't a whole lot of guys like that, Ocho. Most guys are one dimension. You right, you right. Cause that's how you make your money now, Ocho. Put the ball in the basket. And if you have no office of prowess

or office of skill set on the defense end, you got to be elite. You got to be elite. And I think when it comes to Draymond and his role with the Warriors, obviously being an enforcer, but what he's been able to do for them, he's very valuable in the way that... Yes! He does some everything. I mean he's a jack-of-all-trades, he doesn't master anything. Limited scoring, okay rebounding, can run the offense. A lot of times they run the offense through him. He does a great job of sitting picked

and he'll fake it like he's gonna pass it and he'll drive to the hole. He's carved out a nice niche and he's probably gonna end up in the Hall of Fame with four championships, a defensive player of the year, two gold medals. He's probably gonna be in Springfield. Just the reality of it, don't you?

I like it, I like it. And one thing about Drake, you know he gonna fire back now. Hey, he gonna fire back with all due respect, though. Nah, he probably gonna say, I mean, they really like the old guys like that, they let them fly. Now maybe if Chuck had said something, he might have came back to Chuck.

Anthony Edwards would ask if he considers himself to be a top candidate to be the face of the league going forward, this is what he said. He said, not really. That's what they got win before. Ocho, do you have a problem with what Ant-Man said? Cause I can see Ant-Man is one that doesn't really want or need to be the face of the league. Ant-Man is one of them just want to play basketball on. Ant-Man is the kind of dude in high school

He got his book bag on and he got his got them basketball shoes tied to his book bag. He had to bust out with his basketball shoes tied to his book bag. After school He on the park shooting. Everybody else going home. That's the type of dude Ant-Man is. All I wanna do is play basketball. I don't want the pressure and what comes with being the face of the league. I wanna have my fun, I wanna go out here and scope, I wanna dunk on people,

and I wanna talk my trash in the media. Now, a face of the league is a Wimby. Doesn't really have the personality to do so though. Ant- man does. I think they want they want the face of League to be a little bit more buttoned up. See I mean that's boring. Okay Jordan was boring. Kobe was boring. LeBron was boring.

Jeff Curry is boring. Jordan was boring. I'm just telling you. You said it. You said you said being buttoned up is boring. I said Jordan was buttoned up. You said he's boring. Jordan wasn't buttoned up on the court? Did you see the way Jordan? Let me ask you a question. How many times did you see Jordan give an interview without a pseudo?

Okay, now that's different. Now off the court, he was straight bitting. That's what I'm talking about. You can't even be the face of the NBA if you're gay. You can't even be the face of the NBA if you're gay. different. Now off the court he was straight bitting. That's what I'm talking about. You can't even be the face of the NBA if your game doesn't speak on the court. We're talking about off the court. And see I caught a lot of flat when I said they kind of want the guy to be a little bit more settled.

Jordan married. Kobe married. Braun married, Steff married. Everybody, oh, oh, oh, he just gonna look at it. But you're correct, you're correct, you're correct. You are correct, you are correct in that sense. But for me, you know how I am, I like the entertainment value. I like the exciting side. I like the person and the people

that are gonna put butts in the seat. I like a John Moran being the face of the league. They would never let that happen. I like Anthony Edwards being the face of the league. They would never let that happen. You get what I'm saying? I like the Allen Miderson of the world to be the face of the league, but it would never happen.

Not with them corn rolling in the big bag and with him, when he buying on 5X t-shirts. I'm just saying, I'm thinking about, I think about my way of playing the game of football. I could never be the face of anything, ever, because of the way my style and which I played. Got on the field, I was the exact same way off the field. Hell, I'm still the same way now. So I stay in my lane and I do what works for me

because I do it extremely well. You look at the quarterback. Oh, they got it. Oh, but there's one quarterback that has refused to change and is remaining his authentic self. He down there in Baltimore, he went number eight. He from Papano. Ain't changed one bit. Right. Who's face in the lead? Right now, Mahone, 15. Yeah. Okay. And before he left, who was that?

Number 12? And then Manny? It's, see, it's all about an image. Whether you live that life or not, what did people, because here's the thing. You remember Tiger? Tiger was the face of golf. He got married. He had a family.

He was wholesome. It was the all-American dream. Why did people get upset? Because that's not really who he was. I'm so glad you just said it, because I was just ready to go there when we talk about Peyton Manning, when we talk about Tom Brady. And I talked to Tom when I was in New England after seeing him interact and see how he is when the cameras are rolling.

And I asked him, are you truly happy not being able to be exactly who you authentically are? How are you? How? You have to mask it for all these years. This ain't even you. Yeah. Pain Manning. I've seen the real Pain Manning at the promo. It didn't come to him talking to the interview. Dude, it makes sense.

That ain't true. But the thing is, Ocho, is that they've done it for so long because your quarterback is like when you're one of those guys, they've been quarterback all their life. And so they get to understand you got to be positive in all situations. When you when somebody plays bad, you take the blame. I need to do better of putting my guys in position to make plays. They They say, they get so, and so it's, like you said, it's robotic, it's methodical. You're like, man, why are we, I understand why we gotta interview the quarterback,

but he ain't gonna ever give you nothing. Never, never. Hey. So what are we doing here? Hey, 15 over there in Kansas City, the same way. It's like they went to training, it's like they went to training for this. Give me something different. Matter of fact, we just talked about City the same way. It's like they went to training. It's like they went to training for this.

Give me something different. Matter of fact, we just, we just talked about this the other night. I mean, you, you got on me, you got on me about, um, people telling the truth. Remember? Yeah. You, they did. You, you, they just can't. And I don't like that. I don't like it.

I mean, it's just the way it's the nature of the business is the way it will always be. And look at the quarterbacks. What is that? What is that getting married? Jalen Hurts? What is he getting married? Josh Allen? What is he getting married? Oh, you think it's a coincidence? No, not at all. Okay then. Okay. Long as we here. Hey, long as we here. We. Hold on. Okay. Well, listen, it's a funny thing about it too, as they are finding wives, you know, cause in the Bible say, when a man finds a good,

when a man finds his wife, he's finding a good thing. You notice how things, after they get married, they continue to elevate, they continue to go great. They continue to, so guess who else is gonna get married? Old joke. Huh? Why ain't I gonna? Yeah, oh, hey, who else is gonna get married? Oh, joke. Huh? Why ain't I gonna? Yeah, oh, hey, why are you gonna, guess what?

Oh, shade too, I'm coming in out the rain too. Come on, no, I'm gonna have a proper time. Hell, I'm gonna get the rain though. Come on, man. Hey, cuz you know what they say, you know what they say now, when one out in the group get married, it causes a trickle effect,

and everybody start walking down the aisle. I'm gonna drop the broom. Wait, huh. I'm gonna jump the broom. Wait, what? I'm gonna jump the broom. Do you want to have a ceremony? Hell, if I get married, if that's the wrong one, I jump back across, we divorce. Yeah, you gotta come in on that, you to come in on that. You got to come in on that ride on Joe.

Hey, I was just saying, if it's the wrong one, you're going to jump back across the room. I jumped back across the room, drunk, right? Crossing with the boys. Hey, all that money. All right, and another thing on to this thing. The bigger, the bigger diamond that you buy, the more likely it is to get you get divorced. That's what, that's what, that's what studies show.

I would go and ask you where that came from. Is that real? Yes. Hey, cause you think about came from. Is that real? Yes. Hey, cause you think about our grandparents. They had no diamonds. They had a gold band. Everybody had a band back then. Yeah.

My grandma had a gold band. Grandma Charlie had a gold band. Granite had a gold band. I guess these diamonds came along in the 50s or 60s or something, I don't know. My grandma got married in the 40s. Yeah, I think Granny got married in like 42, 43. Grandma Charlie got married in like 39, 38,

something like that. I get it, I get it. You know, you're like, and these women, like, I won't be, you know, I won't at least six carrots. I want at least 10 carrots. I want this. I mean, what kind of carrots? You talking about the kind of Bugs Bunny?

Bugs B? Hey, because, hey, the prices are diamonds are coming down. The beers, you see, they got these lab- diamonds and it's really, really hard to tell. And so everybody started flocking to that. But Ocho, I look at some point in time, Ocho, you know, I gotta come in, I'm like, this rain, Ocho. You gotta come in. See, huh?

See, now you start to listen to me, man. You hear me? You start to listen to me. Now I know you got your team of people. They keep everything together for you. You hear me? You got a good squad over there. You got this man. You got things running consistently in a good way.

But when you find a woman and she lay her hands on you, boy, you ain't gonna know what hit you. You hear me? You ain't gonna know what hit you because I don't want you. I don't want you getting older, and I don't want to see you in the home.

I want- I believe in my daughter. How you gonna invade her space like that? He already told, he already told his boyfriend, my daddy, get old, he gonna stay with me. All right, okay. I was like, nah, you too much like me, you be yelling and screaming. I can like, nah, you too much like me. You be yelling and screaming.

Okay. I can't take that. You know what? You, you, you making jokes now. I want you to think about something now. So what do you want to think about it? Statistically, you're 57, right? I'll be 57 in June. We'll be going to do something special. I'm, I'm 47, right? You got the thing.

Yeah. We've already lived the better half of our life. Oh yeah, yeah, I'm close to that. Yeah, I tell myself something. Now listen to me now, stay with me. Chat, we've lived the better half of our life. Now we still have a good amount of life to live, but at this point, we ain't got no time

to be playing no games. If we ain't found nobody in our 20s, we ain't found nobody in our 30s. You know, you ain't found nobody in your 40s. You know, I'm going to be, I'm going to be 50, man. I think the thing for me, I ain't got time to be playing no more. You hear me? But when I tell you, when I tell you, man, man, it's my time and I deserve. I'm perfect. I ain't ever been perfect, but I deserve. I know my time is ticking. My clock is ticking.

I'm finna get what I deserve. But I ain't got time to play. Oh, I just wanted to show you that Cardi crash too. I forgot to show you that, you know. Man, that joker spit it all out, buddy. Man, that joker spit it all out, buddy. Hey, listen. Thanks to the guy that I'm talking to.

I'm talking to you. I'm talking to you. I'm talking to you. I'm talking to you. I'm talking to you. I'm talking to you. I'm to show you that Cartier crash too. I forgot I got to show you that, you know, but I do it all that buddy, but I do it all that buddy. Hey, listen, hey, thanks. Thanks to my cat, you know, I'm moving different all 2025. And I'm going to tell you something in chat. If you pay attention, I got one quote. There will be science.

Anytime you see me moving or acting different and out of character, this shit. Oh, we saw it. Oh yeah, I'm just letting you know. We just saw it. Well, it's your fault. Chrome hearts, all that stuff. Hey, listen, it's your fault. It's your fault.

Because I never knew things like this were able to happen if I wasn't catching the football and scoring touchdowns. Huh? When they tell you God is good, boy, you ain't been nothing but a blessing. You hear me? God is good. God is great. I'm going to be the first one to thank you. They talking about Jesus got this will. Shit, I'm got the will. Nah, we just, it's a bad look. Like I told you, man, when we going to get, you know, you and I have a conversation offline. I said, no, Joe, we're gonna be so good. They got, they got to come.

Hey, listen, they, they coming. They gotta come see us. You saw the movie, Feel of Dreams, right? You know what they said in the movie? In the movie, they said, build it. If you build it, they will come. Now, for us, people have to also understand when it comes to us, state, state, look, look, look, use your eyes now. When it comes to us, things come a little bit more difficult and we got to work a little harder. The game we want to go. Well, we just we keep doing what we do.

They're going to have to come see us because they see like our fan base. Look, we're going to have we're going have doubters, naysayers, haters, whatever you wanna call them. But all I know is that 25,000, 50, 80, 90,000, they watch, they listen, and they like our content. A lot of times people quote, come back and they quote our content. So advertisers, sponsors see that.

Trust me, I'm sitting in the meetings with them. I'm talking to them. I know what they're saying. So all that other stuff that people be talking about, oh, they ain't talking about nothing. Who ain't talking about nothing? Who ain't? Okay. Boy, you better tune in for two hours,

especially on a night like the night where I'm feeling good. You can tell I'm feeling good because I'm talking real goddamn fast. And I ain't even cursed. I ain't even cursing night while I'm feeling good. You can tell I'm feeling good because I'm talking real goddamn fast and I ain't even cursed. I ain't even cursing tonight. I'm feeling good. Why I'm feeling good?

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I promise you, if anyone knows this, it's me. I'm Ashlyn Harris. It's only going to get better, Ojo. It's only going to get better. Caitlyn Clark Asia said she won't ever be paid what she's worth to the league. Will Caitlyn Clark ever be paid by the WNBA what she's really worth to that league? I don't think that's possible. She's a part of a larger player player body. They all need to be paid more. She should be recognized for what she has done and what she's brought to the league from an economic standpoint. It's as simple as that. Yeah. I mean, it is what it is. The product is a product. The money and revenue that they

bring in, it is what it is. So there's only so much you can make. Now, Caitlin Clark, her money is going to come off the court. That's where she's going to make her hay. That's where her, Asia Wilson, Kelsey Plumb, um, uh, young was, uh, Bayou Barbie, Bayou Barbie, um, Angel Reese. That's where it's going to come from. And along with the other players, but as things increase, um, they're going to be fine, they're going to come from, along with the other players. But as things increase, they're going to be fine. They're going to be fine. As time goes on, things are going to get better for all those women in the WNBA.

The game is exciting. I know a lot of people, they talk about it, they trash on it because they're not dunking and doing all this stuff, but the game is very exciting and it's, it's an environment that you can enjoy if you just go watch a game, you'll understand. Absolutely. But I think the thing is, Ocho, is that there are certain players, Michael Jordan was never played his value to the NBA. Oh yeah.

Kobe, LeBron, they're not. You can't. Unless you're going to play them $150, $200 million. That's the only way you can't Jordan making think about what the league was with magic and they're magic and bird. They got TV to be a live event All of a sudden now be the finals weren't taped delayed Jordan took it to us to a whole new stratosphere Jordan making five six million dollars How the hell you playing Michael Jordan five to six million dollars?

Crazy, huh? Colby Lebron, you so, and women like, not say women, her in particular, let's deal with her. You can't play her worth, you can't. Unless you play her 15, 20 million dollars. And that would probably be her worth right now. Yes. Reaction, Clark's salary is expected to be

just over $78,000 for the 2025 season. And economists for IU, Indiana University, recently calculated that Clark was responsible for 36 million in economic impact to the city of Indianapolis. And almost 27% of the league's economy activity in 2024, including a Kindness merchandise sale and television. When Stevie Day, we were skewered, we were right across the coast. When we said what we said,

everybody knows it. What did you just say her salary was for 2025? $78,000 this year. $78,000. All we did was try to tell, I'm trying to say, look, she's the biggest thing in the WNBA history. Oh, what about, I said, guys, that's not to minimize what other, Jordan was the biggest thing to hit. You're like, you can't, what, Will and Oscar and all those guys, but Jordan was a different level.

It's okay to say that. Yes, there were great players, be it Cynthia Cooper, be it Lisa Leslie, be it Sheryl Swoops, all of those, whoever you want to name, the biggest thing to ever hit the WNBA is Kaitlyn Clark. Mm-hmm. Hey, listen, timing is everything. Timing is everything.

The timing in which she started doing what she did at Iowa, the timing in which she entered the NBA, along with Andrew Reese, the feud between them, not really a feud, but I'm just saying from a competitive standpoint, with LSU playing Iowa, the timing in which he entered the NBA along with Andrew Reese, the feud between them, not really a feud, but I'm just saying from a competitive standpoint with LSU playing Iowa, that the timing in which they came into the NBA, I mean, it was perfect. Especially in this social media era, era, I'm to my area. Social media era, it was perfect.

So don't get mad. I mean, I would embrace it. I'll be trying to push her. Hey man, put on a little team. Man, you made me know all the jerks that we gonna sell. These little girls gonna be wanting. Put on there. All-star game, let her be a star.

Hey, even if she ain't a starter, let her be a starter. If she don't, hey, if she injured, both asses in the lady did Magic Johnson in 92. And understand, have the long-term vision, have the long-term vision to understand what having her in position does for everybody else. Yep. I mean, look, she does, I mean,

Michael made all his money off the court. Cause he had the shoes. And still is making. Yeah, oh, she does. I mean, Michael made all his money off the court. Cause he had the shoes. He still is making. Yeah. Oh yeah. But I'm saying to me, and then, you know, like I said, he made a couple of, like LeBron stepped me, come on, bro. How are you going to pay them what they're worth?

Possible. And 7, 8,000, man. Come on, man. They die. Well, hopefully she can make 200,000, $8,000, man, come on, man. They die, woo. Well, hopefully she can make $200,000. It jumps all the way up to $200,000, which is, you know, $200,000 is a lot of money. So I don't want people to say,

she don't talk about, he's a lost touch reality. I understand, guys. When we look at stuff in sports terms, we understand that the average person is not gonna be making $200,000 a year. Once you get the six figures, you get to that that $100,000 mark, that's money. Then you go to 150, you go to 200, you go to 300. Yeah, we understand that.

We're speaking in sports terms. Sports terms. And all I know is she's worth more than $7,000, $8,000. That's what I know. I don't know anything. Hey, Look, I ain't no economist, but I know when I saw her at the Asus game, I know they had like 19,000 fans up in there. Yeah. And listen, and to speak on it, not to leave anyone else out. She's worth more than that. on it not to leave anyone else out. She's worth more than that. Asia Wilson is worth more than that. All the young ladies in the WNBA, especially those that are stars on their

specific teams, are worth more than what they're being paid right now. Ocho, I don't think you heard me. They estimate that she's almost 27% responsible for the economic activity in the league, attenders, merchandise sale, and television. One person that people swore up and down and called me everything but a child of God when I said this and I didn't even need numbers to back me up because I saw the buzz. I saw the buzz from when she was in college.

Right. Yeah. The real deal. She's Yeah, I got a question. Yes. If you played Caitlin Clark one on one to Lemar right now, you think you could score? Man, look here.

Man, my knees. Y'all have to roll me around the wheel. Man, I ain't ran or did anything. Hell no. Man, when I squat, I have to come home and ice my knees. And you talk about running bound up and down to that hard assass court. I know I can't be Caitlin Clark No

Yeah, I could barely be roaring clocking he'd be dead for the year Hey, please Yeah, please. Could I score? Yeah. Just with my physical size, just overpower. But I ain't, okay. Okay. Okay.

Cause after about, after about we get about five minutes in my back, go tight, no, yeah, that was funny. That's all I need. I jumped one time. Now I'm a, I'm a pool of the quad. I'm a pool of the hamstrings. Nah, calf, please. That was funny. That's all I need. I jumped one time, now I'm gonna pull the quad. I'm gonna pull the hamstrings. Nah, calf, no. I'm good. She got it.

That was funny. No. I ain't be, I ain't be nothing with, now, hey, now if you'd asked me when I was in my 20s, yeah. Yeah, you just go in, yeah, yeah, yeah. Go score, I I beat all the ass I hate I'm 57 every every lady in here being right now I guarantee I'm older than their parents yeah or close we might be the same age they about to

graduate at 85 I graduated 86 but it ain't much difference. Oh man, that's funny. I thought you were gonna put up a little fight, but you got it. No, no, no, I'm real. I'm real myself. Okay, okay, okay. Prop 57, I haven't dribbled a basketball in like 30 years. I haven't run since 2009.

And you think I'm about to just go out there and play somebody that does this for a living? Wait, hold on, you mean you don't jog? You don't do no cardio at all? I do cardio, but it's low impact. The low impact, row machine, a soft bag, station everybody, stuff like that. You're right, you're right, you're right.

I've tried it, bro, I got artificial hips. I need a knee replacement probably in the next three years. I've tried to push that down the road, Ocho. Nah, I'm good. Nah, I'm good. No, I'm good. Maybe next time I get him. Maybe in the next life. Trevor Lawrence does not want to go to the Steelers.

I was like, I wouldn't say your heart dropped, but you're kind of like, what? And then I'm thinking about how can I even get, I have a no trade clause in my contract. So I would know about it. And if I was getting traded or if there was something that was gonna happen, you know, I'd have to be on board with it, which I'm not.

I'm happy here in Jacksonville. I play, I plan on, you know, we want to win a Super Bowl here. And I think we can do that. And I don't want to leave Jacksonville. So I'm happy here. So obviously not going to Pittsburgh. Well listen you could be as happy as you want but when something like this comes out it comes it's coming

the call is coming from inside the house the call is coming from inside the house the the rumors they come from inside the house because they're not happy with your play they just paid you a whole lot of money you mean you missed the back half of the season because of the injury. You know, that's understandable. But your play has been abysmal, which is why the calls are coming from inside the house. Stuff like this starts from somewhere. Stuff like this gets leaked purposely to the media.

Now this is a good wake-up call for Trevor Lawrence to get, you know, to tighten up, to get it done because they will move on from you. But they don't on from you. Like you said, Ocho. They will. Ocho, he has a no trade. So any trade cannot happen unless he sign off on it. He don't have a choice but to sign off on it.

If they tell you they don't want you, then they're going to bench you. That's okay. Guess what? This my house. I mean, it ain't for sale. I want to buy it. It ain't for sale. I want to buy it. It ain't for sale. Listen, I know the answer to his problems.

And it's very simple. What's that? The answer to the Jacksonville Jaguars problems in anything dealing with Trevor Lawrence, there's one simple answer. Throw the ball to Brian Thoman Jr. every play. I guarantee you it'll be alright. I guarantee you.

Hey, Bradley Beal has to. Throw the ball to Brian Thoman Jr. every time. Oh, Joe. I know you don't keep up with this, but Bradley Beal got a no trade clause. They did everything. They put the man, they had to, got the man coming off the bench. He's like, I ain't waiving my no trade clause. Guess where Bradley Beal lives? Still in Phoenix. Hey, I thought, I thought that was going to be special. Even, even

though they in some way are really the same players all at the same time outside of KD. Him and Booker, you know, what's the difference between Bradley Bill and Booker? From a skillset standpoint, I'm not talking about being efficient in shooting, I'm just saying, you know, can both handle the ball, can both shoot the three, got a mid-ranger, put the ball in the flow, you know, can play off the ball if need be. Yeah, for me, I think Booker's a little better,

Booker's a better player than Beale now. But hey, and plus, go to Pittsburgh where they got state tax. I'm in Florida, they ain't got no state income tax. No, I'm good right now. And the better, oh yeah. Trevor Long, I know Trevor Anderson, all the players see this too, but when I did the bad advantage,

all the players talk about Nike, Jake. Oh yeah, I went to the fanatics party. They gave that guy a little. I saw Jetta, saw Chase. I saw a lot of the guys. Oh, they watching. So Trevor Lawrence, I know you're gonna see this. I'ma solve your problems.

I can solve your problems right here, man. It's one answer. Number seven, he would there let's you. Throw in the ball. Every play, I don't care what play they call you see To have safety running you see one half safety throw it to seven Boom case closed matter of fact when these ghosts ring do ball Hey, it's Alec Baldwin this past season on my podcast, Here's the Thing, I spoke with more actors, musicians,

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