Club Shay Shay - Nightcap Hour 1: Micah Parsons RETURNS to DALLAS + Ravens on the STRUGGLE BUS + Jaxson Dart the NY SAVIOR?

Episode Date: September 29, 2025

Shannon Sharpe & Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson react to Micah Parsons returning to Cowboy stadium as the Packers take on the Dallas Cowboys, the Baltimore Ravens get blown out by the Kansas City Chiefs, and Jaxson Dart wins in his first start against the Los Angeles Chargers and much more! 03:50 - Cowboys tie Packers24:05 - Chiefs beat Ravens50:25 - Giants beat Chargers   (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #Club   See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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clean game, zero interceptions, one sack. That Prescott, 30 or 40, 319, three touchdowns, no interceptions. One sack, clean game. Green Bay rushed the ball 35 times for a buck 64. The Cowboys rushed the ball 26 times for a buck 17. If you like offense, this was the game for you. If you wanted to see some defense, I'm sorry you'll have to wait the next week. Very interesting ball game.

I don't really have a lot to complain about. The only thing I will question, Ocho, is Matt LaFleur right before the half. Oh, the last two possessions before the half, Ocho, you struggled offensively. Now, if you reverse it, you struggle your first two drives. Now the last three drives, you do what you did. I agree with him going for it. But after you've struggled, you don't do that. But other than that, I got no qualms

and what happened tonight. What'd you like about what you saw and what you didn't like? Hey, honestly, when the game started, it was a doozy. I thought it was going to be boring. I thought it was going to be a blowout. Uncle, it was 12, too. I think we have 12, 12, 13, 2.

Yeah, I mean, something like that. I'm like, well, listen, when the Packer got the ball again on their third offensive series, I say that if they go up again and get the 20, I'm going to bed and take me a nap because there's no way. I'm being honest

There's no way the Cowboys are going to be able to come back Especially I think With the first quarter They had what 60 yards of offense Something like that But obviously it turned out

To be a very good game A very entertaining game From the end of the second quarter On into the third and fourth And listen Romeo Dobbs He had his coming out party tonight He had

If we didn't know who Who was Receiver number one was For the Packers We know now Romeo Dobs showed out the night and played one hell of a game. Deck Prox, God damn, why am I talking so fast?

Deck Prescott played a phenomenal game. George Pickens, looked very good tonight. Made some really clutch plays. Yep. Some dope stuff showing what he can do with the ball. If you put in his hands, he doesn't always have to be a deep ball. He has that ability to have that yak as well.

Outside of that, man, they ran the both teams, ran the ball well. They were well balanced with the run and the past. pass and I enjoyed it. I hope John Jenkins was okay, though. I hope he's okay. Yeah, I hope you guys took my little thing I did today. You see what I did. You know, I told Michael going to get a sack.

I said, Indiana Jones wasn't going to throw for two touchdowns. What was my other pick? Yeah, Jaylor Hurts will have more than a yard. I knew that, you know, easy. That was the only thing, Ocho, I agree with you. I mean, look, Cowboys, I mean, both teams, you laughed at me when I said Ocho I'm not so sure I mean I like the addition for the Michael going to the Packers right but I asked I said Ocho are you sure they're better than the

Rams yeah they better than the ram are you sure I'm going to ask you again Ocho are you sure whoa whoa whoa you don't remember you asking me about them being better than the Rams yes because I say I would say the Eagles and I say I would put the Rams in front of the Packers and you said no no no no And so I ask again, I'm going to ask you one more time. Right, let me, I'm, I'm going to get this. Now, if we, if we're doing a comparison, now, offensively, it's a toss-up. You can go either way.

Now, if we're going to, if we're going to go from a defensive standpoint. You got to go from a team standpoint. Well, then now I would go at the ramp because defensively, they're a little better. Okay. That was a little better. If they'd been together, it's going to take Micah some time to get worked in. Yeah. Yeah, I'll be, I'm looking at both defenses.

Yeah. If I'm defensive coordinator, I will watch the tape, but I'm not going to show it to the team. Because what am I going to show, Ocho? I mean, really, what am I going to show? I let the guy go 31 or 43, 337, three touchdowns, zero interceptions. I let the other guy go 31 or 40, 319, 3 touchdown, zero interceptions. Right. What am I showing?

Right. I'm trying. I'm looking at Hobbs. I think he's number 21 for the Packers. Ocho, he damn the back pedal out the end zone. you do realize if you allowed a guy to catch the ball in the end zone and you tackle him it's still a touchdown yeah bro how far you gonna back up yeah you can't you can't keep backing up you're in the end oh Joe you got he has to understand where he is on the field right

you take two steps that's it I'm not backing up anymore now you got to come through me if anything you shouldn't move at all if I'm put your heels on to go no I'm not giving that up because he had just got out flank because they ran a switch and he had outside leverage and they got him out outside so I said okay fine you had outside leverage I give them that but you can't let a tidy end run no boo that bull job slant route and you keep backing up and you a corner corners that let tight let if that's a if that's killed or if that's one of these upper echelon and I'm not saying I like Ferguson I've liked them since he's gotten there but corners you let

tight ends beat you on slant rise at the goal line yeah you ain't gonna be in the league long bro You'd be bouncing around. That can't happen. That can't happen. But other than that, Ocho, like I said, I don't know where we go. I mean, I love George. Boy, he cut that thing, raise the thing.

Ocho, what the hell was he thinking? You just, you just keep that last play. At the end of the game? Yes. They did that clock management almost heard of that. They almost lost that game based on the clock management. He was trying to get everybody to the line. Obviously, it worked out.

All you do, Ocho, why would you attempt to pass in that situation? And what happened if they had scored that touchdown, huh? Then what? What happened if they got that picked, then what? Okay, well, listen, that's the chance. Hey, listen, that's a chance. Because at that point in time, they were already playing for the field goal. Yeah.

Yeah. I mean, listen. Look, I'm taking much time up the clock as I possibly can. Just a good goal. Cowboys had their possession. We've got our possession. Right. We don't want to give them the ball back with any time on the clock.

Okay. I get all of that. Yeah. But he has to be smarter. You see the coach's late. Like, bro, what, what you do with? Yeah. I mean, I, I, I think he was,

trying to play hero ball we know if we get a field goal the game ends in the tie i'm going to take one more shot and try to leave a second maybe two on the clock and see if we can kick a field goal to win it if i didn't know better i swear that guy had some ties to green bay that clock guy because i but that was the longest every you see i was like hey hey uh i mean you know let's see joy and love lost the fumble so uh 11 tackles, Quay Walker. I just,

oh, Cho, honestly, I just don't know. Right. Because Iber Fluse, the defensive coordinator for the Cowboys, he doesn't like to bring pressure.

And I just don't know if how, I don't know how you survive in today's game if you let the guy just sit back there and pat the ball. And this is the funny thing. They plan, they got four. They only bring four. They're not,

they're not, they're playing zone. And when you play a team, like the Packers and you run that zone and not get no pressure, it just stretches everything out. Defensively, it stretches everything out and the holes is big as hell.

Yep. And all the players got to do, you can go right down the field and just pick them apart. Jordan Love can be surgical, which he was a night. He was surgical because you're not getting enough pressure to get goddamn

Jordan Love off his spot, rushing throws or whatever you need to do to throw the timing of the offense off. And that's what happens. Somebody got to add some pressure. I was hoping your Davy on Clowny made some type of impact tonight. He really wasn't as effective as you like him to be. But listen, it was a great game if you like offense.

Yes. As far as defense goes, as far as defense goes, that there was a no show tonight. Yeah. Both sides of the boat. This is the best. I mean, look, the Cowboys could ill afford to lose this game. I mean, ties like kissing a beautiful woman through a screen. There ain't really nothing going on, no, Joe.

You can just say that was a beautiful woman on the other side. But did you really touch it? Is he real or was that AI? No moral victories. No moral. Yeah, so in a situation, it's not a loss. So all things being equal, right. I'd rather be one, two, and one, as opposed to one and three.

Yeah. Let's be real. And we'll see where it comes down. Hey, that time might come in and it might help you down the road. But you couldn't, you couldn't go down. You couldn't be one and three, and the Eagles are four and O. Ooh. The Eagles are four and O.

Hey, I can't wait until we get to that game, but go ahead. God damn. But, you know, look, the Cowboy George Pickin showed why. Tobert made a heck of a play. I thought that was trying to throw the ball out. I thought he was trying to throw the ball away, too. I thought he was trying to throw the ball away, too. Yep, yep.

And somehow Tolbert came down with it. Turpin made a couple of plays. Yeah. I mean, look, they got guys, Illinois, he stepped up and made some plays. I mean, the guys stepped up and made plays for the Cowboys tonight, and that's what they needed offensively. They needed guys to step up with being out.

They needed everybody to step up. George Pickens, you need, you. Yeah. Show us why you want $30 plus million a year to be for a receiver. Show us why. He showed you $8.4. $34, $2 touchdowns on 11 targets. Jalen Tober was a high draft.

pick he got some opportunities in a situation like this ocho this is when you get opportunities right in this moment this is where you show cook man we can count on him yeah yeah they are i believe they always thought they knew they could count on george pickings because of what he's did in pittsburg he just needed a change of scenery he needed to clear the deck that's some plays get a phrase start start all over again but these other guys you see tobert you see turpin you see up linoa go those guys stepping up and making plays. Yeah. Me, the only thing I can say with Green Bay,

get Golden more involved. He got too much speed not to be involved, don't you? He got too much speed, he got too much speed, don't you know, Joe? Hey, Unk, you got to understand, right? If as fast as he is, as dynamic as he is, with speed like that, if they felt comfortable putting him in more, in positions to make more plays,

they would have him doing them. There is something When you have a player like that With that kind of speed You Hey this is Matt Jones I'm Drew Franklin And this is NFL cover zero

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situations doing some of the things that we know he's good at right because romeo dubs looks like the guy i thought golden golden came in to be the number one guy but yeah 87 ain't giving up that spot but if you look at ocho they really only threw the ball to go only through the ball the dobs up right the goal line. He had three touchdowns and then he caught that one where Blaine kind of like he reached with the wrong hand. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But other than that, they really didn't give him a whole lot of balls

in the field of play. Most of it, like he had, what, three or four catches right there around, right around the goal line. And he made the most of those. And that's what you want. Like, hey, all things being equal, hey, give me the tubs. But I think if they can get golden involved, I think he's going to make this offense even more dynamic, Ocho,

because he got speed to burn. I was surprised they didn't call that PI because nine times out of 10-0-0-0 on Bland on that on that rail, that shot up the rail, they call that. On the left side towards the end of the game? Yes, they call that. I would hate for the refs to be the reason

on changing the outcome of the game. Let the players play. That was like an, eh, eh. It was, you know. I get you to watch. They're going to come out and say that should have been a flag. They're going to come. You think so?

But that don't do me no good. Right, right, right. I would prefer you not even tell me, because now I'm going to be mad. If you lost the game, if you lost the game, then it's okay. But the fact that the game ended in the tie, I'm glad they didn't call it because I hate when the rest get in the way of changing the outcome of a game instead of just letting the players play. Yeah, but I thought Jordan Love, I mean, he made a couple of plays like, okay, but other

than that, I can't be mad at him. I really can't because, I mean, he's only in his fifth year and he's still there's some things that he can clean up. But on that four down, when he threw that ball to golden, he had some mustard on that. Oh, yeah, he did. Yeah, he had some steam on it. Yeah, he did. But I thought he played really, really well. I thought Jacob ran the ball hard.

He started making people miss on a couple of those runs. I was like, damn, somebody going to need some ankle, some ankle transplants because he tearing people's ankles up, left and right. Yeah, he was. um javante william now you see him another year removed from that ACL surgery he's starting to look like that Carolina Javante Williams dragging people making people miss hey he were toting that rock boy I mean I don't I don't see any signs of him having an ACL injury based on his performance and the way he ran the ball tonight yes being able to cut and jump stop and all that and coming to balance and explode and I'm like well god damn what I

think Ocho had the game not gotten so, you know, they could have ran him more, but they fell behind and so, you know, we want to get. Got to play catch up. Yeah. Yeah. But I think, you know what? I think blocking that P.A.T. Ocho gave them a life because they were a different team after they blocked that PAT than before because Green Bay was kind of having their way with him.

Yeah. And then they blocked that P.A.T. and got a joel to life. And the next thing, you know, they're right back in the ball game. Give the Cowboys a lot of credit. Like I said, I don't think they, I don't think, you know, look, this is only four games into the season, but the likelihood of you getting to the destination that you want to end up at and you start one and three isn't very good.

It's not likely. One, two, and one, it still gives you a chance because you still get the Eagles. You still got two games against the Giants. You got two games against the commanders and you have another game against the Eagles. And you have your out of conference, you're out of conference, you're out of division games. So we'll see how that shapes out. offensively, I think the good

my concerns is defense Ojo. I just don't know if giving up 40 points, Ojoo, at home. You give it up 40 points at home. Yeah. Yeah. Hey, shit.

They gave up 40 also Gabba gave up 40 that first round of playoffs. Remember a few years ago now? Oh yeah. Well, they gave up 40. I think they gave up 48 then. But this is the thing. This is the good side of things. Not only are you missing the CD Lamb and everyone else stepping up and trying to make up for the production that CD Lamb would have had, but they also scored.

Okay, you gave a 40, but you're scoring 40. So offensively, you're playing extremely well, and the defense's fight of the ball just has to find a way to catch up. Find a way to get one or two stops in those four quarters. That would have made a difference in the game. Ocho, but can't, I mean, there haven't been very many defenses that you can just say, hey go hunt with four and they go attack the quarterback right it's been very few not there it's been done yeah but it's been very few times the eagles last year could get home with four

and they would play coverage fancio does not like the sacrifice that back in and he had those big hogs and they could they could collapse the pocket inside right davis and carter and then those edge guys were screaming off the edge and they would rotate them and they had eight they could go eight deep and they just go, just go, go, go, go. But I don't see that with the Cowboys. I'm not seeing that. Sam Williams came back, he looked good. They had a few guys that flashed.

Yeah. But I think in order for the Cowboys to play this style of defense. Yeah. Boy, you're asking an awful lot for you, man, you're asking an awful lot for your secondary, man. Because like you said, they're expanding to an area. Well, I'm just going to go go sit down in there where you vacated. Every time. And that full got to get it.

but this is the thing you got to understand on you have to have the personnel to be able to do it he's not listen for a reason yeah because he doesn't want he doesn't want to expose the back end yeah you're only bliss and four and the back end still expose thank you you only bring it for i mean excuse me yeah um it's uh but that's his style of play if you look at him when he was uh uh he was the head coach of uh when he was in indie yeah what do you do that's the style of play Yeah. You go watch him when he was in Chicago. He's the head coach.

Look at his style play. Now you look at him. This is who he is. Yeah, same way. Now, on the flip side, you go look at Kansas City. Anytime Kansas City, when he gets threatened, what are you going to do? He'll hit you, he'll heat you up. I'm coming to get you.

You come, you get down to his area. I'm coming to get you. Yeah. That's not. Hey, but, but, and honestly, this would make Spag's defense so good. Yes. He has the person. to be able to do and execute exactly what he needs you to do the game they had we'll get to that

i don't want to go too much into it but uh a 40 point tie i mean i mean i mean i'm trying to think have i never i've never tied a game so i don't know how i would feel i just know i look it's kind of like playing cards you know i'm saying don't jo it's like and you get a push i didn't sit down at the blackjack table to push. I sat down to win. Yeah. So I guess I guess it's like pushing. You know, I'm saying, hey, I didn't lose no money, but I didn't win money. I don't. I didn't sit down there to say, okay, yeah, push. Yeah. No, bro, I'm trying to win something. But I guess in this situation, I don't know how to feel. I've never been in this situation before. Have you ever had a tie game in your career? Absolutely not. Absolutely not. But listen, if I play for the Cowboys,

if I played for the Packers, I would feel good. I didn't lose, huh? Yeah, I, I, I feel good. I didn't lose. I'd be upset. We didn't win the game, but we have some great things we have to build off of. Defensively, we need to work. Offensively, they could take the day off. Offensive, y'all will take Monday and Tuesday off. Defense, we see y'all here in the film room Monday, Monday night. Matter of fact, even on Tuesday, on your off day, Tuesday, bring your ass in here again. Yeah. They, um, whew. But, uh, that game did some numbers. Oh, yeah. I can imagine. This is probably going to be the highest grade of Sunday night game. They've had in quite some time.

Maybe about 20, 28, 29 million. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, right now. The Cowboys, it's a close game. Yeah. It was back and forth in the fourth quarter. It goes into overtime. So, yeah, it peaked.

I'll agree with you, Ocho. I'll say 28. Yeah, probably. I like it. But the Green Bay Packers and the Dallas Cowboys, they needed, what, 70 minutes, and they still couldn't determine the winner. They have a tie.

40, 40. Jordan Love was 31 of 43, 3, 37, and three touchdowns, no interceptions. Dak prets got 31 of 40, 319, 3 touchdowns, no interceptions. I mean, you look at it, 500 yards for the, about almost 500 yards of offense for the Packers. Yeah. A little over 400 for the Cowboys, but they played to a 40-40 tie and onward and upward.

Mm-hmm. Oh, Cho, the game you just alluded to, Lamar Jackson leaves the Ravens. Oh, yeah, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, before you even start, before you even start. Now, what I'm going to need you to do, I don't want to hear you say foot or ball. You've been talking about the Ravens is your team. And I told you was only there for two weeks, but you eluded and wanted to be adamant about the Ravens being your team. I need you to keep that same energy that you have for Joe Burrow

when things aren't going well with Joe, especially last year. Keep that same energy for eight for that Poppino legend with today's performance. Now I'm going to let you go and at any point I feel

you shuck it and jiving. I'm going to interrupt. But go ahead. Go ahead. Keep that same energy. Your day coming tomorrow around this time. I just want you to know. day coming.

No way. Hey, hey, listen, you're going to be real sad if you go, if you go O for two. You got one team lost today. Yeah. And your other team will lose tomorrow.

It won't be two. It won't be two. All right. Lamar Jackson leaves the Ravens, uh, in a 37, 20 loss to the chief with hamstring issues. Baltimore is now one in three for the first time since 2015.

Yeah. And two games behind the Steelers and the AFC North. Ocho, much trouble are the Ravens and Lamar Jackson in as we currently speak. But them boys in hell of trouble, you hear me? They're in hell of trouble. They're in a lot of trouble. For one, I'm not even going to talk about the injuries first.

I just want to talk about the defense. They can't stop nobody. They can't stop the run. They can't stop the pass. They can't stop Nathaniel. Nothing outside of that. The good thing for the Baltimore Ravens, you're not facing the Kansas City Chiefs every week. So offensively, you're probably going to be very good against everybody else.

With Spags dialed up the day, pressure, pressure, pressure. We're not going to allow Lamar to sit back there and have his way. Not only that, when he does drop back, when he is in the shotgun, we're going to have a spy. Matter of fact, we're going to blitz and have a spy. Because I trust my back in to be able to handle their business and do them with they need to do and it worked numbers it was phenomenal the game plan that spag came in with defensively worked phenomenal i'm trying to figure out what bottom look spags has a history if he feels threatened he's going to blitz you yeah you get down to his territory he's going to

blitz you uh-huh you know this it seemed like the ravens everybody knows this except the ravens Now, they really, they had no answer for it on. Oh, Cho, it's been a while. They did not. They did not. That offensive line, Ronnie Staley went out, and so now you got a backup end at the most important position at the left tackle. Your right guard isn't playing up to snuff.

And so now you're weakened in two areas. Yeah. You really couldn't get into your run game. Look, they had 166 yards of 17 carriers, but 71 of that came when the game was out. out of reach, Justice Hill, cracked off one. But you're able to neutralize Derek Henry. He only had eight carries for 42 yards.

Yeah. He's not that kind of back that can give you that kind of. Now, he's more like as he gets going. Now, he can pop up one. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He can pop up. But this is what you see from the Chief Defense. God damn, Super Bowl.

We think of Sequan going to have a day. What Spag said? Oh, no, no, no, no. If anybody's going to beat us, it ain't going to be 26. You got to beat them to throw the ball. Well, hell, if you're coming into a game like today, what's the first thing you say? Well, we're taking two people out. We're taking two, we're not, we're taking two, we knock two birds with one stone.

We're going to spy Lamar Jackson on path downs and bliss at the same time. And anything with Derek Henry, uh-uh. We got to see you. We got to have that. You won't be breaking off nothing. A man and boy, we're laying that wood out there today, boy. If you go back and look at how teams have beaten the Chiefs in the postseason, throw the ball. First time they lost with Patrick Mahomes is the quarterback.

What did Tom Brady do? Go back and look at Tom Brady numbers. Yeah. You go back and look at Joe Burrow, they threw the ball. Yeah. You go back and look at Tampa in the Super Bowl. They threw the ball. You've got to be able to throw the ball because Spag's got, you got to take something away.

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If you run it, now he can't focus on what he needs to focus on. Your quarterback has to be up to par, and it has to beat you. throwing the football and you can't turn it over can't turn it over you got to you got to protect you got to protect the ball against spags if you want to beat it yeah um Lamar was 14 to 21 47 one touchdown one of the exceptions uh he fumbled one got a look got a look got hit from the back uh whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa wait a minute wait a minute wait a minute I need the same energy you have for Joe Burrow Joe Burrow a play I'm not, no, no, no.

When Joe, when we lose, you have all this energy and Joe should have did this and Joe can't turn the ball over and Joe can't do that. I need you to have the same energy you have for Joe for Lamar. Okay. Hey, did, hey, Lamar, that's my dog, right? Did he take himself out the game today or was he hurt? Hamstring.

It was reported that he had a hamstring injury. Okay, okay, okay, okay. Well, I need, I need you to be very critical of your team. team that's your team right that's one of my teams yes i'm trying to make sure i'm the energy the energy is not adding up based on the way you were talking yesterday okay hello did you did you expect hello did you expect the ravens to beat kansas city and kansas city oh so oh is that what we doing is that what we're doing so so we're saying that the ravens can't they can't win on the road is that what you're telling me yeah they can are you making excuses no hello the chiefs are one

and three, huh? The Chiefs are one and three. And the Ravens, and the Ravens are one and six now against the Chiefs. Hold on. Hold on. Let me finish. Let me finish. Let me cook. LaMare Jackson. Yes. It's one of the greatest quarterbacks of all time. And he's correct. Yes. Yes. I expect Lamar Jackson and that defense that once was feared at one point

to go in there and be able to beat the goddamn cheese. Yes, I do. They got Lamar Jackson and they got Derek Henry. I expect it. Think about it. So last year, they had Lamar Jackson and when he was an MVP and the defense was better than that. Yeah. And Baltimore, and Kansas City came into their building. Yeah. In the AFC championship game, what happened?

Because what we have seen is that what happened today, Ocho? Ocho. Yeah. Okay. You're not, you're not going to beat the chief. See, you heard what you just? I need you, I need you to say that. I need you to say it.

I need you to get it. You can say it. We're both breaking out of the game. You can see. No, no, no, no, no. People want me to let you talk, so I was trying to let you talk. Hold on. I need you to do eight like you do Joe.

You'd be real hype. You'd be real enthusiastic. He'd be real passionate about the reason we lost and could Joe turn the ball over? He needs more. No, well, you lost for the same reason. The same reason the Bengals lose is the same reason the Ravens lose. It's because Lamar turned the ball over and the defense up. Okay, okay, I just wanted to hear it out your mouth.

But you, but you know, I'm not breaking news. Right. Excuse me, let me interrupt your normally scheduled program and break this news. And you want me to give you an amber alert. The Baltimore Ravens defense isn't very good. Yeah. We haven't seen Patrick Mahomes look like this in a very long time. All season.

All season. I don't know if we've seen him look like like 25 or 37, 27, 27, four touchdowns are clean. Well, the last time we saw him throw for four touchdowns. We haven't seen this, this, uh, Patrick Homes in an extremely long time. In a minute. And he looked very, very comfortable. Uh, uh, they ran the ball. They did a, uh, worthy, Pacheco ran hard.

Kareem Hunt came and he got some big time. Hold on. Talk about, talk about Tyquan now. Hey, got, let me tell you something. I don't know if y'all noticed this, but if you want to have a good game, y'all come on and talk to uncle on your own night cap. Everybody that comes on the show for some reason, they go crazy. Melissa Jefferson

They go crazy Taquan Rishon Gary Going crazy Henley Hey I'm just saying I tell you

Hey a matter of fact All the Ravens fans out there man Hey Make sure y'all check on butter Make sure butter scrape Yeah I mean think

Ocho I mean the Chiefs hadn't scored 35 What was the last time Chief scored 35 points You probably got to go All the way back Oh absolutely

23 I don't think they scored 30 Oh, look, speaking of 30 and 35 points, Unk, last year when the Chiefs were playing games, the games they're losing this year, those are the games that they won. They losing the close games. They losing all the close games.

This is the first time the Chiefs have looked like the Chiefs of O in a very long time. Very long time, yes. Because they were all in one score game. Remember, Ocho, one score game, a field goal. They win by one, they win by two, they win by three, they went by four. They were all these one score games. This is the first time that they won by,

I mean, a comfortable margin. Yeah. So the last time they scored more than 30 was against the Raiders was against the Raiders in November of 23. So almost two years. That's what the Ravens defense has allowed Kansas City to do. Right. So in almost two years since they scored more than 30,

they just go in there and made it look easy. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Well, this is the funny thing. on. I know, I know I'm, I'm being funny about the Ravens. You know, I love my bangles, but the Ravens are going to be okay. As bad as their defense is, their identity is not their defense. Their identity is their offense. As long as you have number eight, it's no different than when we talk about the Buffalo Bills. There's no different than we talk about the Bengals.

Obviously, Joe Burroughs out. But as long as you have eight, you're going to always be in contention. I don't care if you're one in three. I don't care if you're one and four. Their team is so good offensively and can score 30 can score 40, can put up 28 a game. It's just you're playing. You're not playing against the Kansas City Chiefs every day. You're not playing against spags or a defense like that every single day.

Other teams you're going to play, aren't going to have the personnel to say we're going going to blitz and have a goddamn spy. That's not the makeup of other teams. So that's how I know the Ravens are going to be okay, but right now they're down in the dumps. And matter of fact, they are they fans so fickle, huh?

The fan throwing jerseys all in the trash they make it fun of Lamar it's about you know Lamar's uh like jam like come on man y'all come on man let's look this what we do the very thing we that we criticized josh allen for yeah playing great but he had turnovers and he couldn't overcome him his defense and we blamed everybody at what point in time do we say Lamar you got to stop turning the ball over we did it for Josh Allen for years because Josh Allen would play great he would throw an interception in the end zone. Yeah.

He would follow the ball trying to do too much. Go back and look at Lamar in the games that he's lost. Yeah. Especially big, big games. Look at his turnovers. Yeah. Look at Kansas City in the championship. Look at Buffalo.

Today, one pick, one fumble. When your defense is as inept as it is, the last thing you want to do is put them back on the field, I want to, also I want them to play as little as possible. Yeah. That's the thing, what the Cowboys are up against. As good as the Cowboys office is, unfortunately, you got to play, you got to put your defense back on the field.

And I want them to play as little as possible. So guess what happens? I turn the ball over. I break, Joe Burrell knows about this. I turn the ball over. I got to put the team, the unit that I least want to be on the field, back on the field. now I don't know what's going to happen you don't look I don't advocate anything but I just think the thing is is that I don't know what Zach Orr is calling I don't know what's going on

whoa whoa whoa whoa this is what we will not do what we will not blame that the other defense coordinator for the wolves and the struggles of the defense because them boys they got back there, Wiggins, Marlon Humphrey, Kyle Hamilton, who they just paid $237 trillion. No, y'all got to get it done. A wozy, whatever the coach called. A woozy. A woozy, whatever. Whatever the coach called, you got an ex-kewis.

Hold on, that was the Ousier for the Cowboys. He played with Cincinnati. When they're in Cincinnati? That's all the men. They're calling first down because you throw the ball on them is the first down. That what they call it? He's on the Ravens now. But he was with Cincinnati.

Wasn't he with the Cowboys also? Yeah, yeah, yeah on first down. Yeah, I know first down. Yes, that's his nickname you call him first down? Throw it on him. First down. Oh, Cho, the thing is that they can't, their two best pass rushers are out. So with that being said, now Wiggins and Humphrey and Hamilton, you need, I don't care how great your secondary is.

Without pressure, their secondary will become average. Oh, yeah, absolutely. With great pressure, an average secondary can look great. Great, yeah. Man, Ocho, the problem in that we saw this with Joe, and we saw this with Josh Allen. And I was the main one. I'll be the first to say. I said, yeah, the defense isn't good.

But what about those turnovers? So what role did throwing an interception in the end zone and you don't get a chance on first down or you throw an interception on second down and you don't get a crack at third down or you don't get a crack to kick a field goal? What role did that play? Okay, you turned the ball over in negative territory.

What role did that play in you losing the game? It's easy to say, well, they gave up 40 points. Did any of those turnovers help them get to that 40 point total? Absolutely. Absolutely. So you know what that tells you? Your Ravens is not as good as you thought they were because you was talking cash.

You know what before the season started about the AFC North come through the Ravens. I told you. It damn sure ain't going through Cincinnati. The AFC North is going through Cincinnati. And matter of fact, and just to put a stamp on it so we can doubt our eyes and cross our T's when we beat your team tomorrow night. I want you to come on here. I want you to apologize to me

and I want you apologize to everybody in the chat and I want you to say Ocho was always right. Because I told you what was going to happen. Don't get that Ravens Helmet, please. Don't do that. Oh, oh, oh, now, oh tonight is Denver, huh? Oh, tonight is Denver. Bronco country, stand up.

Oh. Last night, it was raving this. It was raving that. It was Lamar Jackson. It was Derek Henry. What happened, huh? What happened? They lost, Ocho.

Okay, okay. I need... And you say they're not in trouble. What is Cooper Rush going to do? If Lamar Jackson missed any time, what is Cooper Rush going to do? Hey. y'all might y'all might y'all the season probably over for y'all man that is what you just said you just said they're going to be okay i said as long as lamar jackson is playing you're going to be okay there are few there are few teams in the NFL that can dig themselves out of a hole a one and three hole a one and four hole no one and three now

the baltimore raven could do that offensively but you do realize so they're one and three yeah in order in order to go to get the 500 you're you got to win two games in a row. So you win two games in a row, that's five. So what happens if you go one in one? What happens if you go O and two? Cooper Rush, you're not winning. Your defense isn't playing up to great, up the standards, with Lamar and quarterback.

What the hell you think they're going to do? Cooper Rush is not going to get you anything with those legs. Hey, a wise man once told me, he told me that Cooper Rush was a very good quarterback. I don't know who told you that. His name Jerry? Man, please. Listen, I'm not telling you what I'm not telling you what I know.

I'm telling you what I heard. Gary also said that Michael, Michael ain't win no Super Bowls. We didn't win no Super Bowl with Michael. Jerry, y'all ain't won a Super Bowl in Michael's lifetime. So what the hell are you talking about you ain't win no Super Bowl with him? You haven't won a Super Bowl in this man's lifetime. Oh, man. Nobody thought, the only person that thought Cooper Rush was good was Jerry.

Nobody thought it was good because when he became a free agent, nobody put a bid out there for him. Right. Oh, I remember Troy. Troy said, oh, he's going to be a hot commodity on the free agent market. No, he's not. Maybe that was, you know, because a lot of times they'll do that now. These guys that call the game, they'll put that bug out there and have, you know,

he did play the game and he studied the game and he knows. No, no, if you watch, watch the games closely. Yeah, just pay attention. Watch. They're not, they're not, they, it was Zeke running, got, they had to play outstanding defense, and Zeke had to run the ball, and they gave him easy stuff. But now, if Lamar Jackson can't go,

they're going to be dependent. Yeah, on the defense or Kobe Rush. And Z, I don't understand why you get a guy that's so vastly different than Lamar. I understand there is no Lamar Jackson but also get something similar there is nothing similar boy we talk about number eight

we talk about pompano's finest there's nothing like that so that offense has to change drastically the offense has to change drastically because Cooper Rush what Cooper Rush can do is nothing compared to Lamar Jackson so the playbook is going to shrink

like this so you shrink the so let me ask your question so you shrink the playbook and then they look for be the offense to be more explosive while trying to minimize your defense exposure. How does that work? Hey, listen, I don't know. Harbour one had to figure that one out.

But you better hope whatever's wrong with Lamar's hamstring is not significant. And it's day to day. Let's hope. I'm hoping because I want to see Lamar out there on the field. I'm a Ravens fan. I enjoy the game of football. I enjoy watching one of the more. You're a Lamar fan.

You ain't no Ravens fan. Oh, my bad. That's what I meant to see. say. But I love the Ravens fans, though. They've always been good to me and I've been good to them. So technically, I'm a Ravens fan because I love their fans. But I'm a Lamar fan and I really want him to play. I don't want him to miss no time. I don't want to miss no time at all because he's exciting to watch. The Ravens defense is allowing an NFL worst 33.3 points per game already entered Sunday's game without four starters. The Ravens are now.

seven and eleven including the playoffs when lamar turns the ball over multiple times after no turnovers in his first three games lamar threw an interception and then fumble when he ran into the back of tyler lindenbaum um raven safety cow hamilton on the one and three start i just want to apologize to the fan the product that we're putting on the field right now is not up to part to what the ravens have been in the past and in the recent past we're trying our best to correct But obviously, something's wrong. Hey, man, tip, man, listen, the Ravens' defense, the Ravens' offense, the coach of staff, they need to apologize to the fans, and they need to apologize to the number one fan.

But I know you're probably watching, boy, I apologize. I'm sorry. Y'all just ain't it this year. The AFC North will be run through Cincinnati through the 513, and we ain't even got Joe Burrow, but we're going to whip y'all and we go with the Broncos tomorrow night. I can tell you that. We're going to sack him probably about five, about five times.

Sack who? Jake Brownie. Sack him with who? With what? Boy, no. Not with our officer line. You crazy. What?

Man, please. Boy, it's Monday night. It's Monday night. Jake Browning, they never lost a game on Monday night. Never played one either. He did when Joe Burrow was out. That was Thursday. Well, same thing.

Monday Thursday is all the same thing. saying because we're the only ones on TV. After getting Xavier Werther back on the field, Chiefs had their biggest scoring day in more than two years. Ocho is the offense finally on track. It's just one game. It's just one

game, but they look good. Xavier Worthy, Juju Smith, Pachecoe tooting that thing today. They didn't have a run the game the past four weeks, three weeks, excuse me. But today, they had to run a game for some reason.

The addition to Tyquon Thornton, showing his value, just getting there, making plays every time he threw a ball, is a touchdown. Every time he touched the ball is a touchdown. So they look good. Now the office is catching up to where the defense is. Now the chiefs are starting to look like the Chiefs of Old, but can they string it together? Can they do it back-to-back weeks?

Who they got next week? Man, stop playing. He looked good. I mean, they got speed galore. Xavier Worthy can run. Tycoaun Thornton can fly. Hollywood Brown can fly. The Ravens play the Texans.

Who did the Chiefs play? And they steal the Jags. In Jacksonville or in Kansas City? Yeah. Okay. That'll be a very good game. Were they playing that? In Jacksonville.

Sunday, right? Yeah. Okay. Okay. And then, you know, they get, they get, they get Rishie Rice back after what, six games or seven games? Six.

A, once they get him back, especially if they, if they start hitting their stride after this game and continue that same momentum and then Rishie Rice come back, man, man. Yeah. Boy.

But they look good. This is the best the Chiefs' offensive look in a very, very long time. Yeah, long time. Patrick Mahomes looked comfortable. He's still, I mean, he hit one deep ball to worthy yeah but that deep ball ain't what it's like when when he was when he was hitting that deep ball when he had tyriek he get back on that level with these guys

because he got speed a pick aside yeah pick one let it real because worthy can fly a porton can fly rishit rice going he and a tram going to be work in the middle uh Hollywood that's going to be crazy sure oh the jack play can't see it on Monday night wow it's Next week, next week, they play Monday night, Ocho. In Jacksonville? Yep. I'm going to go to that game. I'm going to do the show from Jacksonville.

I'm going to go to that game. Damn, man. Hey, listen, the Chiefs, hey, quietly, they got a little four by one team. I don't know who, I don't know who going to run that, that fourth leg, but the first three legs fast as hell. Rashid Rice, I'll look at that Rashid Rice one. Well, yeah, you got Thornton.

You got three guys that run. Hollywood ran 4-2. Oh, yeah, absolutely. The boys and boys fans. Thornton ran 4-2. Yeah. Xavier ran 4-21. Pick anybody.

Hell, put Mahomes, let Mahomes run second league. Hey, hey. They got, they got speed the bird, don't you? They do. I think Rashid ran 4-4, so he good. All I know, ain't a team trotting out three receivers, three players that cannot outrun those guys. No.

I don't give a damn what you got on your team. No. You ain't charting out three guys that can outrun Thornton, Hollywood, and Xavier Worthy. That ain't happening. Yeah. And as fast as they are, they just have to make sure it shows up not only on film, but in the games. Yeah. The way they play.

They have to, everything should be, it should look explosive. Like when Tyree catches the ball on, he just looked so much fast and everybody else. Mm-hmm. It's just different. I don't know how to explain it. But see, he compact. See, he's short. A man, Thornton's tall.

Mm-hmm. Thorne's like six two. Mm-hmm. Yeah. The Giants earned their first win of the season, beating the charges 21 to 18 rookie quarterback Jackson Dart in his first career start, completed 13 of 20 passes,

111 yards, a touchdowns, no interception. But the Giants lost Malik neighbors in the second quarter to what is. believed to be an ACL injury. Excuse me. Odell Beckham tweeted after the neighbor's injury, Dear NFL, I mean this with the utmost love and respect. We, the NFL, take all precautions in the world

with everything else when it comes to players' health and safety. Please, please, please get rid of this turf. Thank you in advance. Love. Respect, and you know I love the Giants, but death life has taken too many talented players away from the game. I know it's not all turf ball, but maybe it's where we've got to go we've gotten all research done

to its turn state, it's the highest quality as possible. At least we can start that discussion. Ocho, we're looking at, from 20 to 2025, there have been at least 16 documented ACL and Achilles injuries at MetLife Stadium.

Aaron Rogers, Achilles, Jalen Phillips Achilles, Nick Bosa, ACL, Malik neighbors, suspected ACL. What'd you thinking, Ocho? Nothing. nothing at all I played on that same turf I played in that same turf at there goddamn Cincinnati I played in the same turf for 11 goddamn years ain't got

nothing to do with no goddamn turf if it was grass if something's gonna pull if something's gonna pop it's gonna pop regardless of what the surface is that's below you it doesn't matter it had nothing to do I mean we gotta get that out our mind we got to get that out of our mind oh we're suffering these injuries because of the surface we're playing on no that's coming from with within that's within that's the ground the ground has nothing to do with that at all i'm just being honest it doesn't it had no correlation at all people be get people get ACLs and achilles on on regular grass it's the same thing but are they happening with the same frequency

oh come on man it so let me ask you a question let me ask you question it has no bearing well that's so so why why have there been so many ACL and the key injuries in that stadium specifically. I mean, let's say that stadium specifically, right? Why have been so many ACL and Achilles injuries in general? Why has it risen, not just in MetLife, just in general? Maybe because there's a lot more of these stadiums that have this synthetic turf. No, that has nothing to do with it.

Because sometimes people aren't even being touched. Some of these are non-contact injuries. Yeah. No, it had nothing to do with it. Well, that's what the studies so. But see, you don't believe in studies in science anyway. And that's the problem. We keep worrying about science.

It's science. That's why everybody getting hurt. That's why. That's the problem. We listen to these people that never played the fucking game. Oh, my bad. My bad. I'm sorry.

We're listening to these people that are experts on what we're supposed to consume and put in our bodies that have never played any sport at the highest level and know what it takes to be able to play a four-quarter game and a barbaric sport where we're running to each other 30 miles an hour but yeah eat this green stuff

it's healthy for you it's gonna help you no for some reason everybody's continue to get hurt soft hitch injury this Achilles quads hamstrings everything blowing out

something has to give and we blame it on injuries I mean we blame it on turf no goddamn turf when y'all played y'all played on concrete yeah y'all played on concrete with carpal laid on the top of it yeah with no problems that the end of window carter's career he tore both pettel attendants in vet come on man uh look i i just think the thing is that if you know if you if you if you know more

you should do more and i think there's a reason why so in other words so let me ask your question talk to me so why did they kick this kick off out if it doesn't hurt guys gonna get hurt anyway So why not continue to run down there and let guys run in each other? Oh, the NFL covering the ass. Okay, well, cover, wait, don't you want to cover your ass with these injuries? Hold on, hold on, hold on. Listen to me real quick. We're trying to prevent the collisions from so far apart.

So we're going to shrink it down, right? Because we lost the lawsuit to, what, what, three generations ago? Oh, yeah, in 2000, in the early 2000. Yeah, three generations or three errors. three areas ago. We lost a billion dollar lawsuit. You know what I'm trying to say. We don't want to have that have that happen again.

So what are we going to do? We're going to take precautions. Anyone that gets hurt, we're going to continue to throw a flag. We're going to continue to find you so you don't come back 10 years later from now trying to sue us saying, well, my head or this is messed up because of these circumstances that we had back then. That's what the NFL is doing.

I think the thing is that the NFL, The NFL, the product suffers when your best players aren't on the field. There's a reason why that you can't hit the quarterback below the knee. Right. Trent Green suffered the exact same injury on their very similar play. And they didn't change the rule. It wasn't until Tom Brady. Yes.

And they call it the Brady rule. Yeah. There have been a lot of got quarterbacks that got hit in the knee and got hurt. Yeah. but it was I just think to think you look I I think if you know more you should do more you know you don't believe you don't believe in science you don't go to the doctor so yeah I mean I go to the doctor why because I have he never played no sport how do you know how he know how to treat your body because I can't check myself no but I'm saying I got

I got I got to make sure I'm healthy but why you don't listen to no nutritionist I don't Why would you listen to a doctor? Not, hold on, hold on. Listen, listen to me. Listen to me. I don't listen to nobody that does studies and tells me what I need to put in my body to play the game of football at the highest level. Why would you listen to somebody that does studies that tell you what you should put in your body

to heal your body? So why would you do that? Well, hold on, hold on. I need better context. I need better context. Why would you listen to anybody to say you need to put this medicine in your body so you can feel better so you won't be sick so you won't have a sore throat why would you listen to whoa whoa whoa whoa my sore throat is because of the ac and i don't i don't i don't see i'm just

ask you a simple question not you need answer let me answer okay i don't take medicine for one let's start there okay that's all i will say so you say you're the way to say you go to the doctor to take medicine no i didn't say that i said a check up you don't we got to go why you're going to get check up because we are old you don't you're not going to listen to what he says anyway so why Why do you care? No, because he had to let me know if everything is okay with me. We got to get a checkup. Oh, Joe.

Why do you care? You're not going to listen to him. Oh, we got to get a checkup, every man. Why do you have to get a checkup when you're not going to listen to what he says? Because we're in our 50s, uncle, we have to. What are you talking about? You don't have to. Yeah, we do.

Did your mom get checked up? Did your grandma get check up? No, they didn't. The old people didn't get no checkup. I'm asking you, if you're not going to, you're not going to, you're not going to to listen to what the doctor says. Why are you going to get checked up? Why do you even have medical?

It makes you everything was okay with me. Why? So I can know. So you just want to know. You're not going to do anything about it. So why do you want to know? Because I'm supposed to go get a checkup every six months. You don't do that?

Why do you need a checkup when you're not going to listen to what the doctor says to help you feel better, make you feel better or be healthier? or be healthier. Why are you going? Well, for one, this is the good thing, right? So every time I go do my checkup, there's nothing wrong with me. So really, there's nothing for the doctors

told me I need to do because I always feel good. Okay. So I'm good. But you're going for some reason. Because I have to do my checkup every single one. You don't have to. There is no law that says you have to go get a checkup. Where is the law?

What do you mean? They said it in school. Once you hit 40, you got to get to check up every six months. They said a lot of things in school. They said study and do your homework. You ain't listened to that. No, because I wanted to play football. I ain't kidding.

I wouldn't know scholar. Yeah. But then you found out, you know what? I got to study and do my homework to play football. I did. I did. I did. Hey, yeah, yeah.

Let's get. Let's get a big of it. Jackson Dart is the first quarterback says Patrick Mahomes to lead their team to an 80-plus yard drive on the first drive of their first career start. Oh, Joe, the moment didn't look too big for it. No, absolutely not. Look, it's the first game. Listen, look, you and I are not going to start.

Hey, we're not going to get a parade. parade going. Right. But what we will do is that we saw flashes and we saw glimpses of him in preseason. He looked good. Yeah. Like, Ocho, he looked good. And I was like, Ocho, over under, eight weeks of Russ. Right. I said, I'm going to take the under. And I'm not so sure it's going to be, it's going to be much longer than four or five weeks. Right. Also, you and I was talking, I said, if it's me, I'm going to start him at home against the charges. Right. I'm not going to start him on the road in the Saints. In that building, that noise on. I'm going to start him in my building because I know at least for the first game, the crowd is

going to be on his side and they won't boo it. Yeah. But he looked, he looked good. Now, it hurts that he's not going to have his most talented player on the office side of football joining him. But he looked good. Very good. Very good. What did you like about what you saw from him? Listen, not only did they run the offense, right? Even with the, when Malik Nebri's going out, he still look good obviously plays a call offensively seeing him use his legs on some of those third downs and get those first downs and being able to play off script outside of the scheme and the players of the call is what i was most excited about i think about the difference between him and russell wilson obviously russell being in there being able to stand in the pocket

and he doesn't have that that that ability to be a dual threat as he once was when he was in Seattle. So having that addition of Jackson Dart, being able to come in, drop back, being in the shotgun, being able to go through his reeds and not see anything there and be able to pull that thing down and take off. And not only

he take on, hey, boy, he can run, huh? Yeah, he can run. He got legs. Yeah, absolutely. I ain't know if we're fast like that. I'm not saying Lamar Jackson like that, but young bull got wheels on him. Yeah, he can run. And I like I like Scataboo, running the football.

Scatibu remind me of Peyton Hillis. He does. He does. He does. All start. Mike, Allstate. Remember, Allstate. Yeah.

All start nice, but Payton Hillis and Scadaboo got a little bit more wiggle to him, though. Yeah. I got a little more wiggle to him. Yeah. Let's see here. I mean, oh, man, I thought big guy. I thought a, uh, deck. I thought sexy deck he was going to go.

Oh, hey, he almost got in. Dexford. You know he's going to go low. Man, get that, hey, hit him with that house with balls and get that arm down and get him off. We got to get Dexter to work on that stiff arm. If he got in the end zone, you know that's a big man dream, an interception. On a pick?

A pick? Boy, I think the stadium would have erupted. If he would got past that and hurt it over that tackle, but that would have been nice, boy. They did a great. great job of getting after Herbert. Yes. Fibidobedo Burns, Abdul Carter, Sexy Dexie. Those guys did a great job of putting pressure on it. Um, he never really felt comfortable. Give him credit. Give them credit. They got, they, they, they, they, they got after. They got out, they got after Justin Herbert. Um, and he finally, he finally looked mortal. Because he had been playing out of his mind the first three. games he had played out of his mind.

Yeah, crazy. But today, he looked like a mere mortal. Mm-hmm. And my young boy over there on the other side who's been having some struggles, Quentin Johnston. Yeah, yeah. Looking like, looking like that boy, looking like how he's supposed to be. Now that confidence is set in, he's stringing games like this, back, the back, the back.

And for him, it's only up from there. I just want to give him his praise because we've been downing him because, you know, because his recent... He had some drops. Yeah, he struggled early. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But, hey, Quinn Johnson, boy, I know you're going to see this boy. For you that boy, keep going, boy.

Keep going. Kenan Allen look good. Yeah. Well, Kenan Allen, Keenan Allen. We already know what he can do. We know he can do. So we're just picking up where he left off. Hampton had 12 for a buck 28.

Hey, boy, he was toting that thing, what? Mm-hmm. And can. Yeah, he was nice. He was nice. Yeah, but a scat pack. Scat pack go, hey, hey, he get a couple of hundred yard game, he and Jackson Dart go on the city.

Oh, yeah, absolutely, absolutely. Listen, if Dodge was, if Dodge was smart, they'd be doing a commercial, a scat pack commercial with scatterboat. It only makes sense. It only makes sense. I need three percent if that happened to, Scatterboe. Hey, Dodge, holl that scataboose, scat back commercial. The charges have an all-line problem with your left tackle.

Joe Alp, left the game early with an ankle injury, putting an already injured offensive line because he was filling in for, uh, uh, what's the guy? He just got the big contract. Slater, Roshan Slater. Yeah, he was filling in because he moved from right tackle to left tackle to replace Slater. Slater's out. Herbert was under siege.

He was pressured on almost 48% of his dropbacks. Ugh. Well, it is tough. It's tough. Now, listen, he look, he look, he look, he looks. normal because you ain't got your officer line now. It's hard. It's hard. You're running for

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