Club Shay Shay - Nightcap Hour 1: Michigan THRASH Arizona + UCONN BACK in NATIONAL TITLE Game + The Big 3 SOUND OFF on Geno Auriemma

Episode Date: April 5, 2026

Shannon Sharpe, Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson and Iso Joe Johnson react to Michigan beating Arizona, Uconn beats Illinois, and the lady gamecokcs advance to the national championship and much more! Subscribe to Nightcap presented by PrizePicks so you don’t miss out on any new drops! Download the PrizePicks app today and use code SHANNON to get $50 in lineups after you play your first $5 lineup! Visit https://prizepicks.onelink.me/LME0/NI... 2:55 - Michigan beats Arizona14:05 - UConn beats Illinois51:55 - UConn vs Michigan: Who You Got?56:35 - Dawn Staley’s Lady Gamecocks MOLLY WHOPS UConn Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Yaxel Lindenberg, he only played 14 minutes, but he was excellent in those 14 minutes, a perfect 3 or 3 from the 3-point line. It's going to be very interesting to see how that, because it looked like he got either a knee bruise or a thigh bruise, but he was on that, but continuously on that bike trying to keep it loose.

And guys, we've all had that thigh bruise. Boy, that thing going to be held tomorrow morning. Ooh-woo. But good thing they didn't need him tonight. They put five guys in double figures and they went going away. They were sensation at one point. They were 10 or 12. No, eight or 10 in the second half from the three point line.

They were sensational tonight. They were unbelievable. And they pulled away from Arizona. I know it's 18 points, but the game really was that close. They were ahead by one point, like 31, 32 points in the ball game. Wow. Michigan, the first team in NCAA tournament history to score 90 plus point in five straight games and a single tournament. They've been outstanding. Obviously, we're going to talk about the game.

They're going to be facing the Yukon Huskies who did an unbelievable job and they just find ways to scratch and claw and win games. Joe, watching this ball game, how did Michigan make it look so easy? They pressure, Arkansas Ocho. The pressure that they caused earlier in the game getting off to a great start. Lindenberg. Is that how he say his name? Lindenberg? He wasn't a, he didn't have to do a whole lot tonight,

but he played some meaningful minutes. You know what I mean? They believe. They say they're the best team ever in Michigan. They showed it tonight because there's no way I thought Arizona would go out like this, man. The Shalak and they put on my razorbacks, I can't believe it. I'm like, who is this?

Why don't you play like this the other night? Man, what's going on? But let me tell you something. Michigan got some big boys. Michigan got that 7-3 boy, Big Mara down now. Oh, yeah. Yeah. He had 26 and 9 tonight. He was controlling the glass, the paint, catching lobs.

Like, Michigan got a lot, they got a lot of guys that they can hit you with in ways. They got great guard play. I know the Elliott kid didn't play great tonight. He was 5 for 17. But for the most part, you know, they together, they played great defense, Uncle Ocho. They played great defense. And they believe in one another man. So I'm going to be honest with you, man.

I think I got Michigan winning this thing. Yeah, you look at Trey McKinney. Before you go, Ocho, he was sensational with the three-point line, six and nine from the field, four of six from the three-point line. And like I said, it was the second half because seemingly every time Arizona would try to mount something, they would hit them. They'd hit them three, two, three, two. The next thing you know, they try to cut it down and the lead is pushed back above 20.

And so give Michigan credit, they found a way. And like you said, Lindenberg, he didn't play tonight. He only played 14 minutes. But in those 14 minutes, he kind of got in foul trouble early. Yeah, like, okay, Arizona, this is your opportunity. He's in foul trouble, their best players in foul trouble. You need to seize this opportunity. They couldn't take advantage of it.

And Michigan, you know, was able to stay ahead even with their best player on the bench. And then they just pulled away in the second half. Oh, Joe, Michigan, do a number on Arizona. Yeah, they did. Listen, offense, great defense. Joe, like you said, pressure, Lindenberg getting itself in foul trouble, but it didn't matter. Adi Mara, down in the paint.

He owned everything on the office end and on the, and on the, and on the, and on the defense end. Had the glass, they really dominate the whole goddamn game. Off the bench, that goddamn McKinney, boy. Well, young bull, young bull was stroking that. He let me go. He was.

He would let me go. I'm sorry, I'm using the wrong words, but it was a good game. It was a good game. And I just want to, I also want to mention, matter of fact, you know, I know we haven't put those brackets up right now. You don't need to.

It's old. It's all worth. I know. So I just want you all to be honest with the people and the people that's watching who won. There's no winner. No winner. Ain't no winner. Ain't no winner.

Don't do that. Don't do that. Don't do that. Don't do that. There is no winner. I still have a team. I still have a team in the in the. What?

What team you got? Come on. What, Miss. Hey, I know, Ash, no. No, now. We got a winner. You had Duke in Arizona. I did.

You did. Okay. Listen, I'm still, I'm, I still beat both of y'all. I know that. I mean, but damn, nobody won't. I thought the objective would try to win the fame. You know, you're talking about you could be, so all these people that feel that bragging, you just try to beat me and Joe, huh?

That's all that matter. That's the only thing that matter. Okay. Okay. Hey, matter of fact, hold on. What this man got now? He doesn't got, he doesn't got him a crowd or something, Joe. Nah.

And still. Hey, man, you got a chill, bro. Look at it. What we're talking about? And still, huh? Hey, I'm not worried about, listen, I'm not worried about nobody else bracket. Hey, Joe. I'm not worried about nobody else bracket.

Except, y'all, I beat y'all too. That's all that matter. Now, Arizona, Arizona might not have made it, right? But my bracket went to. What you mean, might not? They didn't. Hey, hey, hey, calm down. I don't like your tone.

I don't like your tone. tone. Let's take the decibels down a little bit. Hey, I appreciate y'all playing, but as far as I'm concerned, I mean, the King Ocho is here. Man, chill, bro. You don't get no crown for that Ocho, you didn't win. I beat y'all too. That's all that matter.

But you got to win, though. No, I beat y'all too. That's all that matter. Oh, Lord. Have it. Look, check this out. Check this out. Back to the Michigan and Arizona. When you look at, When you look at Marr, Lindenberg and Elliott, you know, those are upper class in Uncle Ocho, juniors and seniors. When you look at Arizona, key guys, Cole Pete, Burr's, you know, Burr's four for 16,

13 points. It's going to be hard to win like that because you count on your big dogs, your young guns, to come through and play great. Cole Pete, six for 18. He had 11 rebounds, 16 points. But it's just, it's hard to win, though. When you shoot an inefficiency like that against. a team like Michigan who grinds defensively.

They fuel their offensively. They fuel their offense and they just look comfortable out there from the start, man. It's like Michigan, they kind of know they're the best team that's left in this attorney, Ocho, and they're playing like it. They did. They did. I mean, I expect you. I thought the game would be much closer.

Like you said, Joe, considering what we had seen from Arizona all year, especially in the tournament, they had looked really, really good. And Michigan, they had been playing really well. But I expected the game to be a lot closer than what it was. Man, this game really wasn't close. Nah, they cut it the single, they cut it to single digits, but it was like, they cut it like eight or nine, but then Michigan took right back off.

Yeah, and that was, it was like, they could never, they could never, they could never breathe, they could never decompress because they were always climbing uphill. Yeah. They never leveled off. And so every time they did you like, okay, we about to make a run and the next thing you know, Michigan would hit two, three, back to back,

can get a layup. And so was a single digit game. Now it's pushed back up to 12, 14. Yeah. And once they got it to 12 and 14 after that second, that second run went to about 15 minutes to go into the second, it was over. It was over. It went from like 15. And the next day, you know, you look up his 30. I'm like, damn. Yeah, Michigan tough. I'm like, damn. Michigan tough. They brought the five out. They had a telecastle. They was kind of commentating on. I thought that was cool. Yeah, I like it. So, hey, man, them dudes backing it up.

Okay, Ocho, Michigan. They're backing their words up, bro. They say they feel like they're the best team in Michigan ever. So they're one game away. They one game away. Yeah. It's going to be very interesting to see because, like I said, that, that original team that won it in 89, they were. They were like that.

Yeah. I mean, you know, Glenn Rice, I mean, Glenn Rice, I mean, Glenn Rice average 30. I'm not so sure. I mean Terry Mills, I think Terry Mills was the first round draft pick, Lloyd Bott, Sean Higgins, Ramil Rodinson. All those guys, you know,

playing the NBA. Obviously, Glenn Rice is the most well-known because he won a championship with Kobe. And I think Rice was an all-star, if I'm not mistaken. I think he made the All-Star game a couple of times. Yeah, yeah, yeah. When he was with Miami? Yeah, Miami.

He was big in Charlotte. Remember in Charlotte? Yeah, yeah. So they got, they got another game to prove. And this is why you play the game. And Jay Rose said, you know, I ain't got no problem with that. We weren't able to get it done. We did go to back to back.

It just so happens we ran into that juggernaut. And, you know, we ran into Duke. There ain't no harm in losing the Duke because you look at the guy there late than they had a great heel. Bobby Hurley. Ain't no harm in losing that. They were so close against Carolina. And C. Webb called that time.

have been very interesting had that not happened. Yeah. What would have happened in that ball game if it goes to overtime or whatever happens, but we'll never know with that. But Michigan does have an opportunity to this, this team here, these players here, Luxembourg, Johnson, Jr., and all these guys, they have an opportunity to leave a legacy, to be one of the teams that won a national championship.

And there hadn't been very many basketball, you know, teams in Michigan that won a championship. So they'll definitely have something, you know, they can come back 10, 15, 20 years from now. Because think about how we look at the FAA five, and they didn't want a championship. Just imagine had they won a championship, how people would look at the FAB FI.

Because they were the culture. They were the culture back then. Yes. The high socks, black socks. All black socks, big, big ass baggy. The baggy uniforms. Yeah. Man, they were hard, bro.

Hey, that was a tough team. Better like they had a jailer road pair like he had old knickers. Man, hey, can you imagine what NIL would have been like with them do? Oh, my God. That would have been nice. It would have been nice. Hey, them boys deserve some back pay or something, man.

You mean, you mean, uh, uh, uh, uh, legal NIL. There are a couple of things going on, but we're going to talk about that. But I mean, we know what you mean, no, Joe. Yeah, yeah. Legal N I. Yeah. The first game, Yukon tops Illinois to advance to its third title game in four years. This is a case to be made that Tars read 17 points 11 rebounds today

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It's 4-7 from 3. Yukon held the best offense in the country to a 34% clip from the field. They connected on a barrage of 3, 12, the most in Final 4 game for the program. The Huskies didn't commit a turnover in the first half. a record under Bobby Hurley. Man, when you look at the way they play, I don't know what it is about this kid. And I think Mullins is a freshman.

And the first half, he and Reed got off to this great start. And then they were cold. But when they needed to get a bucket, man, you see, hey, Hurley got no problem dialing up a play and the kid hit a three. And when it matters most, Unkey did the same thing last game. He was shooting three after three and was missing and missing and miss after miss,

but when they needed it most, he showed up in the last game and was able to get them that win. Same thing tonight. Now, I'm not sure. I'm not sure if they'll be able to get away with it playing a team like Michigan. That's much better. That can get you behind the eight ball, you know, down double digits real quick. You know what?

When I look at this, Joe, I don't know what people think. I mean, but for him to win three championships in four years, You're looking at something only Wooden is done. Man, what's you talking about? Not, not, not, not, you know, you look at Coach K, you look at Coach Smith, and you look at Coach Knight, and you look at Roy Williams, and you look at some of these guys. Only Wooden.

Here he has an opportunity to win three championships. Yeah. In a four-year span. Now, I don't know, look, I don't want to get too far ahead of myself, but, boy, he's being, I mean, you think about, when you can say only one other coach will have, can say they've done this, and that's Coach Wooden. Yeah.

who won 10 and I think he won like seven, eight in a row. Oh, damn. Hey, when you got somebody like Hurley at the helm, okay, Ocho, I think he drives belief in his players. I think they take out to him as far as his attitude, his fieriness, how they compete. Like, Illinois is a pretty good team, man. They're probably the highest-scoring team in NCAA this year.

And for them to get held to 62 points, I thought, I didn't think it was a pretty game, but I thought Connecticut controlled the game, the entire game. You know what I mean? Pretty much from start to finish, they got off to a pretty good start. Like you say, Mullins got out to a great start, made a couple threes early. Now you find a rhythm. And it's like playing catch-up.

This game, it's one-on-nine-point game. This game was a lot worse than that. You know what I mean? They only lost by now, but I thought Illinois was really, they made a little comeback toward the end, but for the most part, man, Connecticut controlled this whole. game though. They control the whole game. Yeah, I mean, Connecticut's tough. I mean, you look at, and I don't know if we've seen a program, because you look at a program, you look at what Coach Calhoun did, and we know the

level of talent that he brought in there from the Rip Hamiltons to all those guys that he brought in there. Yeah. Ray Allen's Rip Hamilton, Bill and the Waver, uh, Okafor, and all those guys. And yeah, uh, Kimba, you know, Cardiac Kimba. Yeah. A lot of these guys. And then Kevin Ollie did it with a different set of guys. And here comes Dan Hurley. And, and, and, and, and, And you look at this, I mean, Coach Calhoun won three, Kevin Ollie, one, one, that's four right there. If this guy, he'll have seven. That'll put him in front of Duke.

That'll put him in front of North Carolina. That'll be trailing only north. That'll be trailing, if I'm not mistaken, that might put him in front of Coach, uh, Kentucky. I forgot Coach Rupp, because Coach Rupp had back in the 40s and 50s. Yeah. Coach Rup had a stick down there at a University of Kentucky. But for, for what he's doing and you understand.

If you go play at Yukon, you're going to be coached hard. Yeah. If you cannot deal tough coaching, tough old school coaching, a guy that's going to get in your face, don't you take your ass to Yukon and tell him a man to man yelling and screaming. That's what he is. That's who he is. That's how he coach. And the proof is in the pudding.

Yeah. Yeah. It's hard to argue with those results. I mean, back to back and then three and four years? That's impressive, man. And the games ain't been pretty, man. They ain't really had, I mean, you look at the buzzer-beater shot that they made just to make it to the final four.

Yeah. And then, you know, it's like you got to have a little luck in this, this, too, fellas. You know what I mean? Yeah. And I think, like I said, Dan Hurley, he has those dudes playing the right way, playing hard, competing at the highest level, and they got each other's back, bro. It's a fun team to watch. I love to see how the alumni come together for the Yukon guys.

You know, all those guys, you know, we're at the game supporting. That's dope. I think it gives, you know, the players an extra edge when they out playing. It's just like the Michigan cast. They see C. Webb and Jalen Rose and them, you know, it's going to make you, it's probably going to make you work a little harder. You're like, hold on, these dudes at the game. We don't want to have no letdown now.

Same thing with Connecticut. You got Ray Allen and all the guys there, Rip Hamilton. I just think it's a dope. I think it's a dope environment. I'm glad to see these guys moving along. And I think Connecticut and Michigan it's going to be a hell of a game on Monday night, fellas. Oh, yeah.

It's always great. Ocho, you know, being in the league and you see those former grade, you see Munoz and a lot of these old guys come back to the alumni. Yo, when you was at Arkansas and some of those old guys, being a corless Williams and a hard day,

Sid DeMondcrieve, a lot of these old guys, they come back. You're like, damn, man, y'all came back to see us? And I can't let y'all guys die. I got to win this one. Right, right. You know, it's kind of like when homecoming when everybody comes back,

you want to play your best ball because everybody's coming back and you know why they came back. Right. Yeah, I love that also. I love that. You look at Duke and how those guys go back in the summer and they play and all those guys that's going to Duke,

they're like, damn, I damn sure want to be, I want to be a part of that. Or Alabama, you know, and the way a lot of these teams that produce a lot of NFL or NBA players, they go back. Yeah. When they go back, It's like, okay, they're really close.

This is really a brotherhood. Yeah, yeah, you're right. If there's no jealousy or guys just competing, playing at a hard level, they can pass along what is like to play, what it's like to be in this situation. Guys started this 40 plus years ago. Your job is to continue, just like our job was to continue, we passed it on to you. Absolutely. You've got to continue this.

Absolutely. Like you said, Joe, it wasn't, I mean, it wasn't like Yukon shot the cover off the ball. No. One team shot 35% The other team shot 34%. Yeah. One team shot 23% from the three. The other team shot 36% from the three.

Yeah. The difference is is that Yukon makes you play like this. Yeah. Yeah. They get up until you. Yeah. They picking you up.

They're pressing the ball. Hey, those guards, they pressure back court. They do a great job of rebounding. They do a great job of boxing out. Yeah. Man, I can't say a, enough about Coach Hurley. You know, I thought he'd have been a great fit

for the Lakers, but he's like, nah, that ain't, I'm a Jersey kid. Yeah. Hey, uh, hey, Hey, Hey, uh, another thing about Mr.

Hurley not really taking that Lakers job, you know, ain't really no security in that, you know, especially when it comes to coaching the Lakers, the pressure that comes with coaching the Lakers. Well, you ain't coaching the Lakers like you coached Yukon.

You ain't going to be yelling at Luca and LaBron. Yeah, yeah, it's kind of different. Hey, hey, hey, Joe, a, Joe, it's no sense of security. in taking a job like that, even though it's, it's a good job to have. It's a prestigious job to have. Obviously, coaching a historic franchise like the Lakers, but I understand what Mr. Hurley

turned that down, even with the money they was offering them. Yeah. I ain't, I ain't going to be that too long. Yeah. I'm not going to be that too long because soon as things don't go right, I'm out the goddamn though. You're going to be the scapego. And I think, I think, Ocho, in college, you know, as a coach, you got a little more control.

Oh, you got a lot of control. Yeah. You got all the control, to be honest. You get guys that are very hungry to work and obviously make it to the next level. So they're going to do pretty much whatever you ask. Yes. As opposed to, you get to the Lakers. Man, I make 300 of me.

How are you telling me what to do? I mean, you know what it's like, you know what it's like, Ocho? Yeah. You've got a lot more, your mom and grandparents look at you a lot differently when you making the money. When you pay it all the bills? Yeah, yeah. That all of a sudden, you know what? It's okay, baby.

Come in here when you want to. Where before, I could come in the house after midnight, but now, hey, come in when you want to, son. And so, and Joe, you said something in the Ocho, we've talked about this. As an 18, 19-year-old kid, he's trying to get to the next level. So as Joe said, that guy is going to pretty much do whatever you tell him because he feels you're helping him get to that level.

I'm already at that level. What you're telling me? Man, what? It's going to be, hey, you see. see how Luca did. JJ told him go sit his ass down that when he came down

to the other people and go sit there. Oh, yeah. Hey, hey, and at that point, too, Joe, you know, correct me if I'm wrong. It takes a certain coach

to gain the kind of respect for players that's already millionaires. They got that kind of money. Yeah. It depends on who coaching them. You know what I mean? Yeah, it does.

The players have the control at the NBA, but depending on the face, that's the head coached them, they wouldn't have listened. Yeah. They're a little bit more receptive depending on what it is, especially I would think maybe a former player or maybe a coach that has a winning record, like a Phil Jackson.

Yeah. Phil, you got to manage, you got to deal with egos, Ocho. Yeah. Because at the college game, you can tell the guys because you got five, five stars. Yeah, yeah. You're saying, in order for us to win, we've got to, okay, you got to do this, you got to do that. But when you got those kind of guys, bro, I'm getting my points down what he says. Give me that ball.

Hey, I'm playing, I'm playing 40 minutes. Yeah. And I'm going to get my numbers. Yeah. Right. Now, if I, if in the course of this game, you know, hey, I can get me four and five rebounds and dish out some assists, but I'm going to get my points.

And so that's what Phil was really good at. Phil was really good at managing egos. And that's what you have to do. And as a coach, Joe, you know this, oh, Joe, you know this. That's a grown man. He got a wife, too. Yeah, yeah. How are you talking to him like he left there?

I'm a grown-ass man. Yeah. Yeah. So, you know, you can talk to some of them college players like that, but I promise, when you get to the pros, bro, it's only so much guys going to take. I'm telling you. They may let me. They're going to put hands on you. Yeah, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they tell you what. Hey, I ain't telling what somebody told, but I'm telling what I know. You can't talk to no man like you talked to 18, 19, old kid. Yeah. He'll slap five from you.

And listen, hey, well, hey, I've been in some locker rooms where I've seen some coaches and some players get into it. And I'm like, hold on. What's going on here? Yeah. It's different, bro. It's different when you get to the pros, man. It's different. Hey, how you let that man push you down?

How you let that man kick you in your butt? Come on, man. I mean, I can never do that because the way I grew up in the South and the coach, the coach was damning like a parent. Whatever he said, if you, hey, I go home and say, granted, the coach, grab my face mask and did all this. The first thing she had, what you do? Right.

Hey, what you're supposed to say? You're supposed to say, nah, baby, he only supposed to do that. You're asking me what I did. No matter what I did, he should have grabbed my face, man. And listen. But as a grown man, you got to have a level of, and that's what I said, you've got to be careful how a man talk to another man.

Well, where you're trying to win games. Okay, okay, win game. It's hard to win game when one of your best players got a lot closed. And that is real important to Uncle Joe at that level, whether it's NFL, whether it's MLB, whether it's even NBA. Every coach has to know as player.

Every coach has to know its limits. You got to know how to coach certain people a different way. You can coach some people hard. I agree. And some people you can't be like that. You know, you got to caught them a little bit. You get what you want out of them. Yeah.

You know, to maximize their talent, you better understand your players very, very well. Yeah, because everybody don't. Yeah, but because everybody don't respond the same way. Nah. You know what I mean? Like, you can, it's just like, man, when I was playing at Arkansas on the coach Nolan, and Uncle Ocho.

I'm talking about, man, when you're talking about somebody who stayed on my ass, I'm like, hell, I started to wonder if he liked me. But then, you know, as you get older,

you're like, well, if he own you, then he sees something in you. Yeah, but if he comes in there and he don't look at you, don't speak to you, no, it's a problem. Yeah.

You know what I mean? So I had to learn that way. Coach Cowher told the story about when he was a decor-corporated in Kansas City, and Percy Snow, Percy Snow, came out with me. he was from Michigan State.

And if I'm not mistaken, Percy might have been defensive player the year. Jason who was defensive. It might have been him or say out. But anyway, Coach, say he was real quiet. Yeah. And he did something and coach was trying to say something. And Percy didn't respond.

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He said Percy turned around, coach. Is there a problem? Coach, they turn the light off. Nah, that ain't no problem. For real? Yeah. Hey, hey, I found that out the hard way. When coach stay on you, man, don't be one of the guys

who always got something to say back. Because if you are, you going to be on your ass all day long. You know what I mean? Hey, look, he got on me. I sit there just take it and just keep moving. You know what I mean? I never say nothing back. Because I want you just gone on.

Leave me alone. Exactly. But like I said, some coaches, you can ride. Some coaches you've got to be facetious. I mean, some players you got to be facetious with. Some players like, look here, son, this is what we need from you.

We need to be X, Y, Z. And you need to explain it to him in a tone. Because I'm telling you, you try to talk to everybody. You try to coach everybody the same way. Yeah. I'm telling you. Hey.

Like I said, Ocho or Joe, I tell it what somebody told about you. I've seen it. Yeah. And I'm one of the few, obviously. Oh, really? Hey, my upbringing, Joe, you know how coaching was. I'm sure you've seen many clips.

You know how they, you know how they coached down here in Miami. You know how they coached in the inner city. It's different. The screaming, the cussing, the coaches slapping to the helmet, grabbing up, the yanking. You know how that is. That's how I came up. Bingo.

So obviously in Cincinnati, you know, man, Hugh Jackson, I don't care about you wearing 85. I don't care about you being Chad. I don't care about you being Ocho. I'm going to coach you the same way I was coached when I was growing up. And I understood that. So I'm used to it from back then. Yeah.

I thought, okay, this is how it's supposed to be. I wasn't tripping. Yeah. But other players that weren't even at my level of talent or caliber. Yeah. He had to coach him a different way. Man, coach me hard. Man, cuss me out.

I don't care what you do. Slap my helmet up, whatever. If that's what it takes to get the best out of me, I'm all for it. I don't know if you can do that nine. I don't know if you can coach a young kid. Like, like what we got coached. Oh, no, no, no, no, no, man, parent, parent would be at, parent to be at the field, cutting the fool.

Yeah, they're going to be, they're going to be in the portal, hell. After that, they're gone. Oh, yeah. Because you see, hey, the parents not run out there and be fighting the coaches at all kind of things. Hey. It would, I ain't never heard, I ain't never heard of no parent, I mean, growing up in, and coaches, grab face masks and snap your side of the head or do all kinds of still punch you in the chest. Yeah.

And not one parent ever came out. out there. No. No. No. Hey, you saw the, because most of the time, the parents knew the coach. They went to school with him. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Uncle Joe, you seen the clip at the 707, the dude knocked out the ref.

I said he was fired on him. He was squaring up with the other. Hey, one one, one one like, man, what are we doing? What does 707 come to? Hey, those are parents? of parents that are living their life through the kid. Kids, yeah.

See, if you, if, like Joe, what Joe look like out there, you think your kid is your meal ticket. Yeah. So you live in vicariously through your kid. Joe was a professional, I was a professional, you was a professional, Ocho. You ain't fit to be carried on like that. Cause you've had your life, let the kid live their life.

Yeah. But when you live vicariously through your kid, you think that's you. That ain't you, sit your ass down. Yep. And then the mistakes that you made as a, Youngster, you're trying to help him not make those. Not make them, yeah.

But, hey, Ocho, you say it's something. I agree with you, too. I think the upbringing that we had, meaning the tough coaching. Yes. When I was in playing AAU ball for Mike Greenwood, Sylvester Allen, they kind of raised me, taught me the game, taught me how to compete. And then you get to high school and college is different. And I'm getting chewed out.

You know what I mean? So by the time I'm making to the pros, Uncle Ocho, the coach get on me, man. That shit going one there out the other. Out the other. Yeah, listen, that don't even bother me, bro. You're going to let me play or what? I just want to go. I just want to play.

Hey, and you know what? I don't think a good thing, Uncle Joe, you think about today's society and the way kids are being raised, they're being coddled. There's really no discipline. There's really no structure. And I think it's almost handicapping the kids

because once they get in the real world, they got no coping skills. They're going to quit. There you go. They're going to quit as soon as it gets tough. It's going to eat you up. It's going to reach you up quick. So I wish, in a sense, we can go back to maybe not how it was when we grew up,

but just a little bit of structure. Just a little bit of discipline because life ain't going to be fair once you have down your own. It's hard to have discipline now. The way these kids talk back, I mean, you might suck. You might, they call it kissing your teeth. You might suck. Yeah. You might roll your eyes or stomp off or something.

But it wasn't nobody blatantly just talking back and cursing out the teacher. Like we see clips, students fighting teachers. That was, hey. I didn't see, I didn't see. I couldn't be no teacher, man. I couldn't be no teacher. Hey, you see some of the clips. Hey, Joe, you see some of the clips

the way the students talk to the teachers? Yeah. I didn't see the team. They slap them. Yeah. Talk about, B, you better get out my face. They'd be on their phone. Yeah, it might come back and pop you.

Hey, hey, I ain't got time for that, man. Could you imagine raising your hand at a teacher back then? No. No. No. Boy, that teacher called home. and told Barney or Mary? Hey, I ain't going home.

No. You called my grandma. Hold on, my grandma, hold on. My grandma made me, Joe. And I'm supposed to be at Miami Northwestern, you know, where Teddy Bridgewater and all the boys went. I'm in the inner city. My grandma say, baby, listen, once you hit ninth grade,

you're not going over there. I need to be able to keep eye on you. She sent me over there to Miami Beach High. Why? Because she taught in the middle school, she taught the Nautilus Middle School. Oh, yeah. Long behold, I was very smart of her because my bad ass always skipping class.

They look at that phone, she able to get over there in 10 minutes to me. Yeah. She already knew you was a little d. Oh, hey, Joe, I was, hey, Joe, I was bad, Joe. I ain't going to lie to you, Joe. I wasn't, like, in the street bad. I was bad in school bad. It's good.

Class, clown, skipping, class. And other people pee class. Hey, in other people, P.E. Clair. Hey, you got both lunches. You on both lunches? Both lunches. Both lunches, Joe. Hey, I kept an effing conduct.

I got A's and B's. I got an effing conduct. Hey, let me tell you how bad I was, Uncle Joe. You know, in high school with us, in order to be outside the class, while class was going on, he had to have a hall pass. Yes, uh.

And I said, I had hall passes in my bag already signed based on what period it was. So if I got caught in the hall, I could show it. Man, I got suspended five, five, five days when they found out I had stolen passes and the teacher really didn't sign it.

Oh, man. Hey, hey, and your parents, hey, they be pissing. You get suspended boy and you got to stay home for more than three days. Oh, yeah. Hey, you got to stay home three days. Hey, don't answer the dough for nobody. Right.

Nobody. I don't care who it is. Nobody should be coming here doing work hours. That's our old shit. Got them because of the dollar. I'd be to her in my aunt. Oh, y'all got suspended, huh? Okay.

That's going to come. I tell Barney Porter, you got suspended, it's gonna be hell it. A rock four box 385. That's what it gonna cost? Hey, hey guys, they get on the bus just like they go into school. Hey, get off the bus and go walk the street until it's time, get back on the bus and come on. Cause boy father told Barney Porter, they were suspended. Oh, no.

Been on like Donkey Kong with the man. What? Man, that man, they play that fool. Hey, he said, he already told him, say, you ain't gotta go to school, but if you go to school go to learn. Right. Yeah. Simple as that he said, hey, you could quit.

He said you quit. You got to work. Yeah. But if you go to school, don't be, hey, he did not, he did not believe my grandmother the same way, don't believe in wasting people time. Them people go there, other people want to learn. Just because you don't want to learn, that don't mean you go there and interrupt somebody else learning.

Right. Man, listen, I never understood how cats would come to school and act a fool knowing their parents then play that, bro. I'm like, man, I know your mom and daddy. Boy, they ain't playing none of that. I don't know why you're here acting a clown. Because I know, I know my mom and my grandma weren't having it. Oh, no.

Hey, Joe, you got beans? I got whooping, Joe. Yeah. You weren't that big then, huh? I wasn't, no, I'm saying when I was a young man, but I'm saying, like, I wasn't no bad child. Now, you know, you know, if I was in the house with you, you wouldn't even know I was in there.

I'd be in that chill in my room. I'm still, I stayed to myself. You know what I mean? But you know, Joe, quiet. Yeah, I ain't in class. Even if you were big, though, Joe, you wouldn't bow, I bet you. Man, I was bigger than my grandma. But I wouldn't bow up better.

Even if I was dead, I knew I was wrong. I knew if I wanted to break loose or do something, I knew my grandma couldn't handle me. Right, right, right. I had too much respect for my grandmother to ever raise my hand, to ever raise my voice. There you go. Or at any adult, even them teachers at school.

Yeah, yeah. That's me too. Man, come on, man. You got too much. respect for your people, man. Your mom, grandma, your dad, you ain't, man, you ain't you ain't gonna be acting on food like that.

I know I would. You wouldn't, I mean, even people that weren't your family members. Like I said, it was a community, it was a community back then. A village, huh? They would correct you, if you're doing something wrong, they'll say, son, you're supposed to be doing that.

Right. Ain't you, aren't you married Barney, grandboy? Yeah, ma'am. What, do they know, you? No, ma'am, okay. You want me to tell them, no, I show, no, I shall don't.

Please don't tell them. Hey, you're talking about correct. He held a pay. Correct. Hey, Joe, back then you get in trouble, depending on where you at, depending on as a family member or somebody that is close to your mama, your grandfather, or your pops, they can whoop you. Yeah.

Absolutely. What they saw you do? 1,000%, Joe. Not only can they whip you once they tell your parents, then you get another whooping when you get home. Absolutely. 1,000%, Ocho. 1,000%.

Hey, let me tell you y'all something. I could take a whooping from anybody in my family, bro, But my auntie, my aunt Sherry, she was a military later. Yeah. When I tell, she got twins, Derek and Devin. When I tell y'all this lady then play, I'm talking about because she coming in that swinging that extension cord. She ain't damn a belt.

She coming down swinging that stitching cord, Ocho. Train track. I'm talking about if you were in the way, your ass going to get hit. I'm like, this in the car. I'm like, damn, no one. And you know, back then, they hit you with anything. They hit you pick up a shoe and throw it. That wooden spoon.

My head was a drum. The way they hit me in my head with that spoon. The first thing they get their hands on, Joe, grandma? Yeah, let me tell you, when you get in trouble, I'm just saying for me, I'm not sure how anybody else, you know, how anybody else was raised. When I get in trouble, especially when it came to school and I came home, the first thing she said is lay right here on my lap. And it took forever me to get on that knee, lay on her lap.

But she put me on one leg, right? And she took the other leg and wrap it around to where it's locked right behind the knee joint. So I can't move, huh? So it's like I'm stuck in a sense. Man, listen, man. I never forget that. I never forget them whoopies. It's some whoopings that I've seen.

I ain't necessarily had, but it's whoopens that I've seen that I'm still scarred to this day. I ain't lying to y'all. Let me tell you y'all something. It was Christmas, round Christmas. My cousin and them, they pinching the bottom of the prison

trying to see what they got. Yeah, my auntie, them figured all that out. When I tell you how she came in a swinging that stichie court, While I was in the corner, I'm like, I ain't touched nothing. I'm talking about it. Hey, they're part of their play. There were some good days, man. Some good days.

But look, everybody that I knew in my family, that's how my uncles raised their kids. That's how my, because that's how they were raised. So I didn't know any different. I thought, hell, I just, everything that I saw, my uncle, they didn't play that, especially Thurneill, because Thurneil was the oldest.

rest of his soul, he passed, and then my mom. They were close. They were 30th, they were born in 40, mama born in 43, so they were the oldest. Because back then, the oldest son, there was a great chance he wasn't going to finish school. He's going to be working with the great. He's going to be working with the man in the fields.

If they were pulp, wood, and they dip in tar, whatever the case may be, he's going to be doing that. The oldest girl was going to help the mom raise the kids. Yeah. She's going to learn how to cook. She's going to learn how to clean. She's going to learn how to watch clothes. because that was her job, her responsibility.

Because my grandma was going right back to the field. Yeah. To pick cotton. And as the other kids got older, guess where they are in the fields with my grandma? Yeah. They didn't play that. All that talking back,

boy, you couldn't, don't slam no dough, don't stomp your feet, don't suck your teeth, don't roll your eyes. Nothing. Boy,

yeah. Boy, if Bernie part, Lord, I wish my brother here to you. you're going to hear you all the story. That man didn't play. Hey.

Not what he's even his own grand, his own kid, grown, grown, got kids. Yeah. No, no, no, no, no. No, no. Don't, don't, no, nobody. Mm-mm. Disrespected that man. I'm talking about nobody.

Go to Glenville, Georgia, and ask anybody my, from the ages of 70 old back down. So tell us about Mr. Buh, you know anybody think about Marty Porter? Man, Mr. Barney didn't play. He showed didn't. He didn't play the drums. he's damn sure he played with nobody kids

all that kid that's why I get all that Kiki kid yeah yeah absolutely I'm with you on that my uncles my aunties

my grandma grandpa man they ain't played them games bro and that's what I've been telling I said I didn't grow up like that all that playing because they would say stop all that playing

before somebody get mad yeah because when somebody get mad I'm gonna get mad and I'm gonna tear both your asses up. Hey, hey, the funniest thing. I'd never forget Joe, Joe andunk, man, as a little kid, you know, my grandma, she's singing in the choir. So if she's singing in the choir, that means she's all the way up there.

I'm out there in the pew. Yeah. So I know where she can't get to me right now. Yeah. Man, I'm in there playing around, man, with my little brother in church. I'd never forget, Mont-Olive Baptist Church in overtime. And they're singing. And me and him, we back there, Tussin, playing around in church.

And she stopped moving, quiet going back and forward, swan. Yeah. And she stopped swaying and just look. Yeah. Turn it to a ventriloquist. What? Because my grandma could talk without moving to live, Socho. Man.

Because we had, you had to be on the first or the second pew. The benched, pews, whatever you guys call them. We had to be on the first one and the second one. You don't be a snake. You know, I'll tell you. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. My grandma in the Deacon's corner.

Yeah. Boy, my grandma, hey. Oh, I'm a quick, your ass when you get home. I'm like, you're cousin in the church. Hey, hey, they stay. God must have to hear that, because, boy, when we got home,

yeah. Barney, Mary ain't play like that. And so I think, you know what, and I said, I was telling you guys the other day, I think that's a lot of all that playing that playing that keep because he didn't do that he didn't he didn't hey he wasn't about no cracking no jokes man we go and fishing one day we pull up there with my grandfather pumping gas and the dude say all right mr barney don't catch him all oh lord you think that man called that man oh cho cho

you know it hey you know everybody said hey don't catch them all yeah yeah man my grand that put that that put that truck in part And cussed that man, call that man everything. Hmm. Hey. You know my grandfather had false teeth also. Oh. He had his teeth.

He all had his teeth on the dash. In that glass cup. No, they were the Kleenex. He had him in Kleenex. Oh, he had him in Kleenex. Yeah, yeah, he had him in Kleenex. Yeah. Hey,

Hey, Mr. Barnett, you better catch your teeth before they run away. Oh, Lord. I'm thinking me and Spank and Spank and look at me. I say, why you keep playing it? He said, man, I don't told you, I'm a grown-ass man and I don't play like that. Stop playing with me before I hurt you. Yeah. He meant that.

Yeah. Because, look here, my grandfather was, I think Uncle Willie was the young, was the baby. So Papa probably would like the knee baby. Yeah. That's an older brother. sister. Yeah. My grandfather, my grandfather had a thing. Don't thump a kid. He would always say, don't thump a kid on his head. You make him thick head. Yeah. He won't learn. I ain't going to make a new egg. You ain't going to learn. He got a probable. He ain't going to learn. Yeah. But he had a,

he'd always tell. He didn't play that. Don't thump the kid on the head. My grandfather, we on the front porch. Me, spanking, and his brother. I ain't going to call his name. Um, he thumping, oh, stop uncle. I said, I called his name. Papa was in the bed. He thumped me again. I said, ow, stop thumping me. After a while, my grandfather slept naked.

After why, you can hear the change jiggling, he's putting on them coveralls. Yeah. I ain't never seen him wear anything but coveralls. Yeah. He wore the one with the strap like junior samples were on E-R, who he had the full, the full coveralls.

Yeah. I heard him putting them on. came out there he said he said I've been told you I said I told you don't thump these boys on the head you make him thick head and they won't learn he said if you thump it one more time

I'm gonna blow your brains out he got in his car and left he never came back I probably was about five my grandfather that was three years when my grandfather died he ain't going to church to look at him

he was at the church but he ain't even go in there. When I say Barney Porter ain't played as a kid, well, most of the kids, I mean, ain't nobody left, but the older kids, Thurnell gone, BJ gone, Gladys Pass, Maranel Pass, and Thurman Pass. So five of them gone, ain't nobody left with Jane, Shermardine,

Mama, and James. He did not be. play. He would if he if he told you something set your clock back. Yeah. Yeah. If he told you if you at church and he told you he going to take your ass up when you got home just know it. Yeah. If he you uptown and you act of the fool I got a, hey, dude put a kid pushed me. Man that's your going to push me. I put I pushed him so hard bad skin all his knees up. All the difference was they always catch the guy that, they, they, they, they, they, they, Yeah, yeah.

Man, the principal got me and whipped me. Oh, man. Guess what? I went right home. Hey, I was cool. I got by halfway home, I started crying. And I got off that bus. Boy, what's wrong with you?

He had a deep, he had a deep boy. Boy, what's wrong with you? That boy pushed me down. I pushed it back, Papa. And Mr. such a whip me. We got the car. We got the car.

We're right back up there. So you put your hands on this boy again. I had no problems. When I say that man didn't play. Yeah. Nope. Amen. That's the discipline.

So I was used to like coach and grab your face, man. Son, do you hear me talking to you? Son, do you hear me talking to you? Oh, Joe, you know, you don't. You hear me talking to you. Well, damn, I heard you from your son. Yeah, I hear you. But if that's what you grew up with,

but I just like, man, I sure would be a good enough player one day, a coach won't yell at me like, or I can say, no, don't yell at me like that. Don't coach me like that. That's what I was thinking when I was a little kid. Because, boy, hey, they yell at everybody. Man, that's how I was.

And you just had to take it. Yeah, that's how I was. Hey, Uncle Joe, y'all ever saw a, matter of fact, chat, too. y'all ever saw the documentary year of the bull no i ain't seen ever saw that man i mean if you ever get an opportunity joe i unc you be busy joe if you ever get opportunity watch a documentary chat i'm not sure if y'all seen it called the year of the bull and it's it's a visual reference on how

we are coached regards to what inner city school you go to regards to what optimist club you go to down here in miami yeah it's exactly like that yeah it It ain't pretty. And if you watch it in today's time and today's era, you'd be like, ain't it one here. Anybody can do that to my child or do it to my kid. No.

But that's the way it was. People kill hell at you by the kid now. You do that to you. You do that to somebody kid now? Well, they kill hell at you. Man, what? Hey, if you see that,

you know, if you see that, you'd be like, oh, hell, no. But, them coaches, and it obviously is about Miami Northwestern,

you know, back in the day, the way they, the way they coach, slapping the kids, coaching the kids fighting on the field, everything on camera. Oh, yeah.

Damn. But you know, Coach Hall, who coached my brother, Coach Hall coaching my mom. My mom graduated in 1960. I graduated in 86. Coach Hall coached my mom. My high school coach coached my mom in the 60s. He coached all my uncles.

He taught driver's head. Mm-hmm. But he was a coach Hall. Coach Hall, his hope they were a sucker. Yeah. That was he called somebody, he called your sucker quit. But he had the right temperament to be a coach.

And everybody knew it. He coached, everybody that grew up, Coach Hall coached their mom, their dad. And went to school with their grandma and granddad. So they knew Coach Hall. And he's from Savannah. Now, man, you know, Savannah, Glenville is 65 miles from Savannah. For 50 years, he drove.

from Savannah to Glenville every day and drove back home. Sometimes he would drive to Glenville, we'd have a track meet in Savannah, take us to the track meet, drive us back to Glenville, drop everybody off. I was the last one he'd drop off. Drive back, get his car, and drive back to Savannah and be back to Glenville.

Damn. So every Hall of Fame I've been in, he's been there. Super Bowl, all the, he's been there. That's the kind of coach I need. Because the pee-wee, the pop water coaches in the gym. Because I started to get good, Joe, I start to smell myself. Yeah, yeah, I already know it.

I already know it. Hey, hey, I quit. Or at least threat to. We got our game on Monday night. We got the Yukon Huskies taking on the Michigan Wolverines on a Monday night. Who you got? You would start with your.

you, Ocho. Who you got? I got Michigan. I got Michigan. Joe? Yeah, I got Michigan. I got Connecticut since Ocho got Michigan. I ain't got- Damn, Joe.

I ain't ride with you. I got Michigan. You want to bet. I mean, you got Michigan. I got Yukon. Let's bet some on it. All right, would you? You know what, no, that's not bet.

That's not bet. Why? Uncle, you got. Oh, man. If Lindenberg wasn't hurt, I think I would take Michigan, but I might got to go Yukon, man. I don't know if they can beat Yukon without him.

Right, without him healthy, 100%. Yes. Yeah, I tell you what, I tell you what, since both of y'all, both of y'all got Yukon, right? Yeah. Let's make a little small wager. A small wager that's feasible for me where I won't, I won't miss it.

$500 a piece. Listen, listen, listen, Ocho. I really owe you an ass whoopin. I just don't want it to get out of hand. You know what I mean? to where you owe me, the way you owe me now. Hey, hey, hey, Joe, let's go. Hey, Joe, look what he got on the back of it.

Man, that's what I, we've been talking about this already. You know, that's your boy, that's me. I'm going to send it. I'm going to get the ass. Let Ash go and send that to you. There you go. What size is it? What size is it?

Make sure I can. What are you going to? You're going to wear it? Yeah, yeah, I'm going to wear it. Say it. Large, Joe. Large. Yeah.

I can squeeze it. I can get in that. I can get in that. Hey, tell him, Joe, if you don't do nothing, but take a pitch in it. Hey, hey. Hey, let's stick the business now. Let's stick the business. So we want to bet 500 or what?

500 apiece. What do you think? Should we trust him on there? It's only 500. You all be 5900 for three years. That's an emergency fund. So I guess the 500 going to go to the emergency fund also. I'm a matter of fact, I'm going to pay y'all right on the spot on the show Monday night.

I'm telling you. And Joe, hey, Joe, for your sake, you better hope. You better hope we, you know, because you talk about me on you, if Michigan win, I mean, if Michigan lose, I might not want to pay you just so you get mad. See, you're going to piss me out. And I'm going to whip your ass like a judge. You are, you're going to add to the ass with an old show. Don't do that.

That's all I'm saying. I think you a good dude. I really think you a good dude. I really do. I hate for it. He just don't pay his debt. Unk, I hate for it to go down like this.

You know what I mean? It's like a dude with a gun. Like I got one. I don't really want to use it, but. Right. You know what I mean? Don't push me. You feel me?

Hey, um, hey, um, honestly, I think Joe barking up the wrong tree. Okay. Joe barking up the wrong tree, man. All that, I think I'm a, damn. I want to pick Michigan so bad. Damn, I hate that Lyndonberg got hurt. Hey, uncle, come on, he's not, he hurt.

He got a little thigh contusion. He's going to be all right by Monday. Man, please. He's going to be all right by Monday. That man, that blood thin the saddle and that muscle. Hey, all they're going to do is get that grasping. That's what we call it, grassing, right? Oh, you're talking about, would they take that thing and just, yeah, right?

Rub, rub, man, that thing up. He's going to have to be doped up. Yeah, that thing hurt so bad. That thing hurt so bad? Yeah, dude. You ever had a contusion, Joe? Man, yeah, ain't nothing worse than that. Like, you try to chase a dude and you get need in that choir.

Yeah. It's a rap. Ocho, you out about a week or two here. Hey, you got to get on that fast, too, boy. Who are you taking Joe? You taking Michigan? Oh, I'm taking Connecticut. You take a UCon.

Yeah. Ocho taking Michigan. Yeah, so both of y'all want to go against the grain. Y'all did the same thing when it came to making that bracket. You see y'all lost. We all lost, Ocho. No, no, no, no, no. Hey, listen, I lasted longer than YouTube.

That's all that matters. It don't matter. I lasted longer than YouTube. That's the key. I was happy as hell, Eric, Oh, yeah. So $500 back. I might change my mind tomorrow.

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