Club Shay Shay - Nightcap - Hour 1:  Nakobe Dean joins, Shedeur skips combine, James Cook stops by

Episode Date: February 26, 2025

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson recap the top NFL stories of the week. Topics include Philadelphia Eagles LB and Super Bowl Champion Nakobe Dean joins the show. Later, Shedeur Sanders won’t work out at the NFL scouting combine, Buffalo Bills RB James Cook joins Unc and Ocho and much more!04:00 - Nakobe Dean joins the show20:27 - Shedeur Sanders will not work out at the scouting combine25:13 - Jordan Love wants Davante Adams back with the Packers28:17 - Would you sell your Super Bowl ring?35:54 - Eagles DC berates the defense for the 2nd half performance in the Super Bowl44:46 - James Cook joins the show(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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nine tackles for loss, six QB hits from the University of Georgia. Now he was a national champ and now he's a Super Bowl champ. Let's welcome, N'Kobe Dean. Go, what's up? What's up, what's up? Appreciate that. How you doing, bro? I'm good. N'Kobe Dean. Go, what's up? What's up, what's up? Appreciate that. How you doing, bro?

I'm good. N'Kobe, what's good, bro? I can't play. Super Bowl champ. Chillin', chillin', chillin'. Let me go first, man. You always go first, man. Listen, listen.

Go ahead. I wanna know, as someone, you know, obviously, I felt I was okay in the game of football, but I ain't never won none. I ain't gonna lie to you. Listen, I never won a national championship, you know, in college. I've never won a Super Bowl. I wanna know what it feels like. I ain't gonna lie to you. Listen, I never won a national championship in college. I've never won a Super Bowl.

I wanna know what it feels like. I'm sure it was probably a childhood dream, obviously, make it to the NFL, you know? But, to win a national championship and to win a Super Bowl in such a short amount of time. Bro, what that feel like? Tell me what it feel like, cause I don't know. I'm finna say it's surreal in a sense,

cause it's like, damn, it's like, it's something that you kind of work towards all the time. But then like, you sometimes you'd be thinking like them losses gonna make you hungry and make you go harder. But then wins, then wins, it's gonna drive you different. Like getting there, get to the Super Bowl, you win that motherfucker, you celebrate with your guys. It is like, it's like you want to get back.

You want to get back. So of course, but now it's definitely a surreal feeling. It's a blessing for sure. Yeah, the blessing. Cole man, I know what you talking about, Cole. I know what you talking about, man. Ain't nothing like that feeling, man. Everybody hold on.

No, that's not necessary. That's not necessary. What? Me and this band, we having a conversation, Ocho. You ain't play for Eagles. Why you got the hammer? This, this is. It got the hammer in the head.

Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. This Super Bowl champ is Super Bowl champ. Oh, okay. We having a conversation. Hey, oh, hey, Kobe, Kobe. Hey, man, you go, let's whisper. We don't want Ocho to hear what we talking about. Man, you played, Kobe, you played extremely well this year.

You was having an outstanding season. You get down. Did you know when you went down, did you know the seriousness of your injury? I didn't, I didn't. I felt like my knee just buckled. And then I kind of looked down, I see my kneecap on top of my thigh.

Yeah, so I sat down and I pushed my kneecap back in and I stand up. I'm like, all right, as soon as I stand up, it popped back out. And I push it back in. I'm like, all right. I'm walking off the field. I'm thinking, okay, it's dislocated. Give me a brace. And then it just kind of blew up like a balloon. And I'm like, what the? I'm like, and I'm, but I mean, it's all good. I mean, I had an injury before God got me

I'm be better than how is how is we have born right now? Are you back running? I mean, what do you think your strength your lower extremities are they back almost normal a little bit? Yeah, I mean we get no weekend that is uh, I'm what I'm five we I'd be five weeks out from surgery Okay, Wednesday, I'll be five weeks out from surgery Wednesday. I'd be five weeks out from surgery Wednesday, so by week six it's gonna take off, because it's a protocol you gotta follow. It's slower than the beginning, and then it pick up.

Colby, let me ask you this. Last year you guys struggled defensively. You couldn't get off the field, you couldn't rush the quarterback, you seemingly couldn't do anything. You bring in Vic Fangio and in one season, it's been, I can't remember a time that a defense has done a 180 like your guys, like you guys did.

What do you think the biggest difference was between last year and this year's Super Bowl, lights out outstanding defense? I feel like it was a buy in from the guys. I mean, you got Vic who been in the game for a long time. Then you got, well, we was one of the youngest defenses in the league. So it was like everybody kind of,

we all looked at each other like we ain't really done nothing. So we just kind of bought into what he, cause Vic kind of came in with a older head mentality like doing OTAs. No nonsense. No nonsense. No nonsense. So it was like, we was doing the, at first with Siri Yanni, like my first two years,

it was like, you know, OTAs was cool. I mean, like they ain't really pushed us as much. It wasn't as hard, training camp wasn't that hard. And then Vic come, he got us doing conditioning drills, doing OTAs. We like, what? But we bought into it, we bought into it. That's why you see somebody like Jalen Carter

able to play 100% of the snap. Like you don't really see that from defense alignment. So it was just like, and now that we seen it work, I mean, shit, Sky ain't even the limit for how good any of those guys, us could be on defense. I agree with you. I said that last year, I felt if Jalen Carter got some shape,

I say he has the ability, he has the ability. He has Reggie White potential. I'm not saying he's gonna be that, but you watching the way he can rush the quarterback, he can pull him, he can rip, he's tremendous first step, he can stop the run. He has no weakness. It's all in here and up here. And He got himself in shape and he was dominant.

It was definitely. It was great to see because I've been playing with him since college. So, uh, and JC also got like a, uh, I don't know, you get out there, you kind of see them lying to be a little scared of him because he, he comes out the gate first for the first nap and he talking. He talking. They in the, they in the huddle, he yelling. He got a little different kind of shit talking. He got a little screw moves up there, huh?

Yeah, he talking a little different shit than B.G. So you can kind of tell that the lineman scared. Like he'll look at the lineman and say, yeah, he scared. He scared, he like pointing at him and the lineman just kind of just, ain't saying nothing to him, he's like, you just know he got him. That's funny, most of the time,

there's not very many officers linemen that really talk back in general. They always, for some reason, they always focus, don't really do the trash talking, especially back to the lineman. I used to get myself in trouble during my day because I would talk trash and TV time out. The closest people to me would be the deepest lineman.

You know, TV time, not like on, close to the the thing in the referee don't give me back up in my deep my left my left and right tackle would always tell me Chad don't wake them boys up cuz you got to deal with them in the trenches that don't don't don't I got a question for you man what's the toughest part about playing linebacker as opposed to in college and the difference in NFL. What's the difference outside of the speed of the game? For me, I feel like the toughest part is I feel like linebackers should be the general on the defense. You should be the one, you should be the one lining everybody up or not necessarily lining everybody up, but kind of like you should be like the battery pack, the get everybody going, you kind of,

you kind of, you're the glue in a sense. We like to call ourselves the glue. Like we run with four, three, yeah, you ain't even bang me 350. So it was like, I feel like being linebackers, we got to be able to do all that. And we got to also be able to keep everybody kind of, like when J.C. a chance to get the mile from now

when we don't want that 15 yard penalty, I gotta tell him to chill out. You gotta calm everybody down. Yeah, you gotta have the other guys on the defense to be able to even have the green knot and make the calls and everything. And I feel like as a linebacker, you shouldn't like shy away from that.

You should wanna embrace something like that and go for it. So I feel like that's the toughest part. Not even just playing the game. Cause if you can play, you can play. How did playing at a program like the University of Georgia? Cause you know, Kirby, he came from Coast Sabin. And Kirby, no nonsense. You gotta grind, you gotta thump the Kobe.

Hey, he ain't no walkthrough prize, you thumping. He old school. So how did playing at the University of Georgia prepare you to play for the Philadelphia Eagles and then NFL? It made me, it gave me that like, that different type of, I say give a fuck factor, just cause, just cause it's like,

you playing in somewhere like Georgia, I ain't have it in the NFL either, so you ain't have that money coming in, so you gotta be George, you, I ain't have, I ain't have it in our head either, so you ain't have that, you ain't have that money coming in. So you gotta, you gotta be playing, you gotta be playing to get to the league or you really had to love it. Cause you, we was banging every day. We was banging every day and it kind of made me grow up and be mature in the sense of no matter what you doing outside of ball, when it comes to being in

that building, you got to perform. And the people inside that building don't care about what you gotta go, well, in a sense, they don't care about what you gotta go on if you ain't performing. So it's like, and Kirby told me that early on because I was big on school, I was an engineer major, so I was up all night.

And he was like- Oh, me too. Yeah, I was up all night, so he was, he, You ain't on the engineering scholarship, Colby. That's what, that's what Kirby probably told you. He, I'll tell y'all a story. It was my freshman year, I came in early, it was spring time, and I had first got there.

I'm out, I'm out late, partying with with the guys and then I'm standing up late doing homework. Then it's like spring practice. So I'm in the meetings. Those enough. Kirby come to me. He say, you know man, this before practice, he say, you know man, I know you working hard. You got the engineering, you know, you're trying to find your way. And I know it's hard right now because the defense is hard, but I don't give a fuck. That's exactly what he told me. He said, he said, he said, he said, hey, he said, when you come out here, I need you to

focus. When you come into me, I need you to focus. I need you up. So, and that kind of, I always remember that. I don't remember nothing else. Kurt told me I remember that any kind of it Helped me do everything with my business and all that. So like they don't care. They don't care till you make It's a performance based lead. Yeah all that other stuff where you came from Buccus award Lombardi outlet trophy hybrid trophy. They don't give a deal about that

You better be able to perform or they gonna get you know What about that building? Definitely hey listen who are some of the linebackers bruh? You know obviously I've had players that I look up to and I actually Studied and tried to model my game after before I made it to the league and try to do what they did Once once I once I got there who are some linebackers past or present that you studied a model your game after? Well, I used to I'm I'm I'm towards the short end, I'm a little bit on the city's foot so I used to look at guys like Eric Kendricks who was a little, he was kind of like

unorthodox in the footwork and everything. Of course I used to look at Ray, I used to look at Dan Brooks, Roe Coyle came right before me, I like, cause he's just like a pure linebacker. He plays like, those guys mostly, I used to study like Derrick Slender, as far as like punching the ball out and everything like that. But of course he had, he real long kind of guy.

Yeah. But he real, yeah, I used to study him as far as like getting turnovers. Fred, of course, those guys, I used to study safeties too, like Pauly Malu. Not like, I wasn't going to play safety, but it's just like, you kind of study the guys that you like to play the game. Like you study James Harrison, even though he was out the edge. He told me, my fault. I know, I'm still-

I know, I'm a whoop. It's okay, it's okay. Hey, I'm a whoop here, me. You good, you good. I'm a whoop here. I used to stay like James Harrison, like the physicality of the game and everything like that. I just felt like, I feel like as a linebacker

with the NFL and the league, trying to take some of the physicality out of the game, it's on us to bring it back, you know? And do it our way, not trying to get fined and everything, like the hip drop. That's BS. Let me ask you this, Kobe. You taking all my questions, man.

Go ahead. Yeah, listen, I got one more question. Now for you, for somebody as young as you and I'm thinking about just me because I've never won. I've never won anything, you know. So if one so much so early in life when you got so much left in your career, how do you define success for yourself as a player in a linebacker when you've already won an national championship, you won a Super Bowl already.

So what else is left on the plate outside of personal goals? Outside of personal goals, uh You just kind of you kind of taste in greatness You want to like I said when you win it when you win that first Natty you win that first Super Bowl you want to keep winning it all starts over you don't want to like okay Okay, if I want to play a decade in the league, I just finished my third year So I at least got a several more years at the beginning every year My goal is to be the best linebacker in the league and win a Super Bowl to have the top defense in the league So and that's kind of what you do with everything to run you set your goals for yourself

You just try to push towards it So I'm in on down play them't care how many times I did it. If I wanted them to go get it. That's something. I like that. Let me ask you this. The rule now they're trying to get the tush push ban. Have you guys been able to stop the tush push in practice?

How many times have you guys stopped in the practice? Y'all know we ain't doing that in practice. They, I always joke with some of the old linemen like y'all know y'all can't, y'all won't be able to do that against us. I always joke against them, but man, look, they, if somebody don't like it, they gonna try to ban it.

So I say keep it, of course, but for Byers' reasons. Make them stop it. For Byers' reasons, I'm a defensive guy. So it's like, I don't care at this point in the league, it's not too much tough. I'm not gonna look at someone on the offensive side of the ball and be like, oh, they need to ban this because it's bad football.

Like, nah, we on defense, we gonna figure it out. We get paid to stop, we get paid to stop offensive, we get paid for them not score, so we gonna try to figure it out. Yeah, and that's the problem, the people in positions of power don't have the mentality like you have or the mentality like the players have you know especially those in that are part of the competition committee they trying to do it with stuff simply because you can't stop it. Exactly. But I need to hear

know they are. Dynasty, repeat, Eagles. Yeah. y'all want to football y'all buddy y'all buddy at the beginning every year the goal is a super bowl it is it is the Kobe we appreciate your time man thanks for stopping by congratulations great college career great start to your NFL career national champ Super Bowl champ hey hopefully we have you back here again next year and you're back to back Super Bowl champ. Congratulations, man. Continue success and speedy recovery.

So, appreciate it. So, I need some of them 85 too. Oh, I got you, boy. I got you. I'm going to send it to you. I'm going to send it to you. I know how to get in touch with you now. Love.

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which formally opens Monday. Their on-field workouts are slated for Saturday. Shadour is expected to throw on campus next month at Colorado's Pro Day. Ocho, you like this? Yeah, I don't have no problem with that. I don't have no problem with that at all. And not at all. Listen, there's enough film out there on Sh George's Center. We know we can throw the ball

There's no need to throw in front of the scouts throw throw throw throw where's most important? Huh if the scouts want to see you throw look at the film turn it on you have a a Lot of film from Jackson State to Colorado to high school. We know what he can do. We know what he can do with his arm We've seen him do it before Pro-day is is where it's gonna be nice. Y'all come out here, you wanna see me throw, come on out here to the Pro Day. No need to throw yet.

There's certain people that have to put that presentation on as far as throwing and what they can do as far as agility-wise at the quarterback position at their, I mean, at the combine. She's not one of them. Have you seen the training session with Hemi Ward? I have. Boy they hilarious. They are. They are. They remember the movie two old grumpy men or something like that. Yeah grumpy old men. Yeah yeah that's they remind me them too.

I don't know why. It's really funny. That's good content between them, too Jack limbered in the Walter Mathau. Oh you remember the names Okay, okay you ready you ready for Hollywood, okay And then what you come to I think all Didn't what's gonna do a remake of that Morgan Morgan Freeman is somebody. Didn't they do a remake? I know that if I'm not mistaken, I know Jack Lemmon and Walter Mathau. That was the original Grumpy Old Man.

Oh, they mad at us talking about we try to make Smitty seem like a victim. Ain't nobody say Smitty a victim Oh, all I'm saying is wait a minute. Wait a minute Wait a minute who is who? Smitty is the victim here. What are they talking about? Smitty ain't no victim. You not? No, wait, he didn't know

You're not? No. Wait, he didn't know? Let's just go, he's not a victim. Okay, he's not a victim. So the wife, the wife was... But we weren't trying to make him a victim. All we were saying is that it was two consenting adults. Right.

And what he knew, I'm not here to say what he knew because I don't know. Smitty ain't never talking to me about it. And I don't talk about it. So I don't know what Smitty knew, when he knew, or how he found out. That's not what I'm saying. All we, all Ochana was saying is that, bro, your problem should be with her, not him.

Smitty isn't married to you. Smitty is not under the office. He does many doesn't owe you anything She owes you that she owes you loyalty. She owes you commitment. That's many trying to figure out I'm trying to try to look at the check and See who the hell is mentioned as Smitty in the first place and not focus on the goddamn wife and her husband That's all I'm saying look I'm saying look media in the first place and not focus on the goddamn wife and the husband? That's all I'm saying.

Look, I'm saying, look, what all I'm saying is, is that the guy, whatever the party is, the other party doesn't owe the individual anything because if it's a female, be mad at your husband, not the female, because the female is not in the relationship with you. The female, if you're married, the female didn't make a commitment to you before God. Smitty did not make no commitment to this guy. The guy and the young lady had a they took those vows. Those vows are sacred to them. That's what I'm saying. That's my stance. Now all that

other stuff, however they want to take it, whatever y'all want to take out of that, that's all I'm saying. Me, hey, you just keep it moving. If you're in a relationship, hey, I don't think this thing is gonna work out between us, whatever the case. Maybe that's what she wants you to do and you go ahead and move on. If you married, hey, go ahead and get your lawyer, draw this paper up. Boom, boom, boom. And keep it moving. It's really, it's really that simple.

Oh Joe. Hey, yes. Human nature is undefeated. Next topic. Jordan love has reportedly been recruiting Devante Adams. Can you see Devante going back to green Bay? That's a good one. A nice veteran president for them young bulls out there. I like it. I like it. It makes sense to me.

Romeo Dobbs, Watson coming back off injury. We got Wicks, Reed. Devonte Adams is the veteran president. Show them boys, listen, this is how you get it done. I like it. It's a nice viable weapon that's consistent and still play the game. I don't have to say Adams is the better presence. Show them boys, listen, this how you get it done. I like it. It's a nice viable weapon that's consistent and still play the game. He still got that sauce. There's nothing wrong with him. He might even, even, even, he got a little edge on him.

But I like that look. I like that look. I like what Jordan Love is doing too. And I'm sure LaFleur will open him back with open arms. I'm sure the Green Bay Organization will open him back with open arms. I don't think he left them with a bad taste in their mouth. Is as far as, uh, when he did leave, but I think it'd be a good thing.

I like it. I think the thing when you got small kids, Ocho, the thing is that, uh, uh, Devante has kids, uh, and probably after October, they're not going to be able to go outside cause they're going to be snowing the ground. Right. But it's been that way for eight years when it was there the first time. Um, and I think the thing is that's one of the reasons why he went to Vegas. Okay.

He liked Vegas. Right. Cause he turned down more money. He left more money in green Bay. Now maybe he got that money back because there's no state income tax, but plus the kids, basically kids get to go outside for the most part, nine months out of the year. Now there's three months, it's too hot, they're not going outside.

But uh, Ocho, let's get, look, what Ocho and I is talking about is this situation. Now, I would feel the same way if Smitty's wife called her. if Smitty's wife called her, because she is an uno obligation to Smitty. You're in the marriage. That's how that works, Ocho. There's two sides. You and I are both looking at it. What we're saying is that we can only do what we,

to our knowledge, Smitty's wife hasn't called the young lady. We're talking about the guy that calls Smitty's wife hasn't called the young lady. We're talking about the guy that calls Smitty. We're not saying, look, if two people are married, yes, because both sides, somebody got hurt on both sides. Woman on one side, man on the other side, or vice versa. That's all we're saying, Ocho. We haven't heard anything from Smitty's side. All we're hearing is from her side, which is her husband. That's it. Smitty is going to whatever, whatever transpires,

Smitty is going to have to have a conversation. He's gonna have to sit down and have a conversation with his wife. Hmm, that's between them. Just like this should have been between him and her. That's all I'm saying. The public didn't have to hear about it. But he's trying to embarrass Smitty because he's hurt. So that's what this was about. Hurt people hurt people.

All right, Ocho. Yeah. Plex and Colbert. Plexlex what my dog at? What my dog at? Is that Super Bowl what 52 42 42 XL? Oh yeah 30 is that 37? 37 37. 37, XL is 30. 35. Okay, we were Super Bowl 35. Nah, it's gotta be 40 something, Ash. Because we were Super Bowl 35, XXX5.

Nah, yeah, so 12 years. So it'd been 2007. Yes, okay, that's Yes. Okay. 42. The highest anyone has ever paid for a Super Bowl ring. He sold the ring, Ocho, it went for $280,600 at auction. Burr has made over $29 million in his career. Okay. I have a question. Yes. I mean, I'm curious. When people actually sell their rings or sell their memorabilia, especially two more rings like this,

does that mean that they don't have money anymore or you just want to get rid of them? I don't know what it means. I don't want to speculate. Okay. I don't. I'm just kidding. I mean, I say Tom Brady.

I saw Tom Brady auction off his watches. Do we not think, do we think Tom Brady is destitute? No, I mean, he's making 37 million from Fox. Yeah. Plus all of his outside endeavors. So I don't think Tom Brady, maybe he wanted to get rid of those watches. Maybe he wants to replace them. I don't know. I don't, I don't. So I don't want to speculate.

I know people will speculate because it's a soup. I mean, you work so hard to get that. And now, you know, but sometimes it doesn't mean, football rings don't mean the same thing to everybody, Ocho. And they think you can't eat them rings. The rings ain't paying for bills, but they can pay them bills once you get rid of them.

Mm-hmm. You know? the rings ain't paying bills, but they can pay them bills once you get rid of them. So, you know, Planks, he made over 29 million. Let's just say he made 30 million. We're going to cut that in half for 15 million. Okay. He got to live. I think he had a wife, got kids. Okay. He got in trouble with the law. That probably ate up a million dollars right there. Dang. Man, Ojo, you know it don't take, and the problem is when you have money going out and you don't have any coming in. Ooh.

See, that's the problem. So Ocho, you used to having money coming in. So think about it. You gotta live. Now I don't know, I don't know Plank's lifestyle, but I'm saying you got a mortgage, you got a car note, you got kids, you got wife, and you got nothing coming in, right?

That's why I see that's why you see and you you wonder why I got you know, 367 11 jobs I Got to live I Got kids like I want I want to get this mega yacht by the by the end of 2026 and it's only one way I'm gonna get it, by having multiple streams of income. Yeah, so I always like, I'm like, damn bro. Damn, would you ever auction off one of your rings? No, I got three kids. Each kid is going to get a ring.

Now what they do with it after that, that's on them. How do you decide which kid gets which ring? The oldest, Kayla get the first one, Kiara get the second one, Poo get the last one. Now is their way to decipher which ring holds more valuable, is worth more than the other? Or you think it's all equal? I don't think anything. That's the way I've been split it up

when it comes to certain memorabilia. A lot of the stuff I'm gonna try to sell, cause I know they gonna sell it. The gold jacket, that's not gonna sell. I'll probably end up donating that to Savannah State, let them keep that. Um, it's hard for them to keep stuff on campus because they're worried about stuff, steal, uh, people stealing it.

They took my Jersey down. They had my Jersey up. They retired my Jersey, uh, many years ago, but they took it out of the case because they were worried about somebody stealing it. And that's unfortunate. Um, but yeah, uh, the kids, each kid to get a ring. I'm very fortunate three for three. Uh, I'm, you know, they'll get some stuff each one to get a soup bowl, Jersey, same thing, first,

second, third. Uh, but most of the stuff, I'm just going to end up selling it cause I know they're going to sell it. They're not going to keep all those game balls that I won and stuff like that. Oh Joe, it's just the cleats and stuff like this. Uh, you know, I would like for them to, but it doesn't mean the same. It doesn't mean the same to them as it meant to me. So have you thought about what you want to give me or I'm walking away empty handed?

I got a nightcap hat with my sign on it. I got some nightcap hat with my sign on it. I got some boxing gloves You can shoot me you can shoot we can have a three-point competition for this LV basketball if you want to All right, so they think it they get the good stuff and I got I get a LV basketball Bro, you ain't even got your own memorabilia. What the hell you gonna do a man sell it Bro, you ain't even got your own memorabilia. What the hell you gonna do with mine? Sell it? Exactly.

That's why I'm beating them to the punch. Yeah, nah. That's why I'm gonna beat them to the punch because I know that's what they gonna do. And rightly so. And I would just rather go ahead and take that out of the equation. Cause like sometimes the appearance,

I mean, you know, they're gonna be taken care of, but they, somebody see them selling some, man, I know he left them all that money and they ain't got no money now. So I'm gonna take that off this plate. I'm gonna take that off this link I'll tell you what Eagles fans I got I got I got something to sell y'all what you got what you got, what you got Oh, no.

Eagles fan, y'all want to buy this? Let me see. Oh, oh, let me see the face mask. I can tell you who it is. Urban Friar. Yeah, am I right or wrong? Yeah. I guess that. I don't know. I saw the face mask.

So I was either going to go with Urban Fryer or what's the receiver? What's my dog name? I can't remember my dog name. Played for the Bears. Played for the Eagles too. Alshon Jeffries. I was going to say Alshon or Urban Fryer. I know I could tell. Receiver doesn't even have to have this helmet on but I know who it is based on the team and then the face mask. That's weird. I don't think they wear these helmets anymore. No not the helmet but just the I don't know. It's weird how I can I'm gonna I'll be willing to Get y'all uh Might be willing to partake with that

I'm trying to think should I sell should I sell to my memorabilia? Yeah. Yeah And since I shake it ahead I figure the head they sell it and send me the proceeds Oh Joe Eagles DC Vic Fangio berated the defense and team meeting for the second half performance in the Superbowl. Uh, Jaylen Hunt, uh, J- yeah, Hunt says, even after the Superbowl, after the team uh, meeting was going over the parade prep, Fangio made the defense stay back and go over the game. He gets to the second half and says, this is unacceptable.

Unacceptable. 22 points. He wants perfection. You like this Ocho? Man, it's cool. I like it. I mean, he's setting the precedent, he's setting the standard on what they're going to have to need to do and continue to do because they have the opportunity to win the dynasty. Our team is very young. Both sides of the ball, you know, a few older players, but they have a chance to do something special with the Chiefs almost were able to do The Eagles have a chance to run it again

So, you know coach understands that and talking to his defense where mainly really everybody's probably coming back next year including some added pieces You know be all season acquisitions and and the draft. So I mean you set the tone you said the president early I mean, he set the tone, he set the precedent early. I like it, I like it. It kind of extreme, especially after you've already won and you had such a large lead. I mean, you're gonna give up some points, but for the most part, I mean, they played extremely well.

The reason why they were able to have a game the way they had is because of the defense in the first half. Yeah, for sure. First half. Said everything. They played extremely well. And he wanted that same, he's like, y'all let up. We supposed to have a blank, we supposed to be the only team to have,

to not let them score a point. At all? Cause that's what he was looking for. Yeah, he didn't want them to score a point. That would have been possible. Hell, they didn't even get a first down, they didn't cross the 50 yard line the whole first half. The whole first half, this is the-

Go back and look at the Giants. How many yards did the Giants have against that Ravens defense? Jordan, go back and pull up, you pull up the play by play for the Giants, Ravens Super Bowl. I mean, you think, I don't think they had 200 yards. A ball fence?

Giants? 35. They have 152 total yards. A ball fence? Giants? 35. They have 152 total yards. That's it? The whole game? Give me the play-by-play. Give me the play-by-play. What they, cause they went, you ought to see what they, oh they didn't score now. They scored on the kickoff. They didn't score no points on offense. Yeah, that don't count. They just got no points on offense. Oh yeah, that was, hold on, uh, Jay, you gotta, I mean, you gotta, you gotta see this when you wouldn't, when, cause they had like, they, they, no, I need to, uh, like play by play what the Giants did, like punt, punt. It done? No, I need to like play by play what the Giants did like point point.

You done? And that's so you know, it's funny. What? Like every time you talk, every time you stop talking, like I'm sitting so close to the ocean, I get the way I can hear the waves hidden. Crash, crash, crash up ashore every time you stop. If I was in Miami, you look mad like, man, I can hear uh. That'd be uh-uh. Yeah. Hey, man.

What is the? Hey, I want to know about them mink pajamas. I'm from the Google app. I want some of them. They got a mink. What you call them? Mink what? Uh, uh, uh, robe.

You serious? Yeah. Let me Google. LV. See how much it is. About 18. 1800? No.

Mink robe. Mink. Whoa. Mink Road men's. They got a new one. They just they just. Oh, these ain't that expensive. Don't you? You looking at the group? Dolce and Gabbana got a green one for 595. You got it. Bottega. That's it. I don't think this is the right kind of me.

I'm we talking about. I'll send it to you. Check this out. Whatever. Take a banana. And that is nice. Oh Joe. Yeah. Yes, sir. Who that will take a banana and that a nice Okay, yeah, yes, sir

The Giants three plays point three plate they got three plays no yard three plays one yard five plays 18 yards three plays six yards Okay, three plays two yards three plays one yard interception nine plays 45 yards if three plays, two yards. Three plays, one yard. Interception. Nine plays, 45 yards. Three plays, interception. Interception. Point. Interception. Touchdown, they ran the kickback. Three plays, zero yard. Three plays, minus four yard.

Three plays, four yards. End of game. Golly! Oh, this is that Raven Defer from 2000. Yes, against the Giants. I've seen him in person. I know what that looked like. That's believable. This joke is with three plays, no yard. Three plays, one yard.

Five plays, 18 yards. Three plays, six yards. Three plays, two yards. Three plays, one yard, five plays 18 yards, three plays six yards, three plays two yards, three plays one yard, interception, punt, interception, interception, punt, interception, touchdown, punt, punt, punt, end of game. Damn. Yeah, I don't think you all will see that again. Minority candidates are now 0 for 29 and getting NFL offensive coordinator jobs this season. 29 OC jobs in a row to white coaches, 0 to minorities.

The USA Today are reporting. Ocho, what you think? I mean, it's nothing new. I'm not even sure why they're reporting it. It's been going on for the longest. It's been going on for the longest, you know. I'm not even sure why I'm reporting it now. We continue to have this same discourse every single time.

It comes around after jobs are taken or jobs are not given. I mean, we continue to say the same thing over and over and over. We continue to fight over and over and over for positions that they don't want us in. And they continuously make it clear that they don't want us in those positions. And yet, you know, we still fight for them. I'm not sure how long we're going to continue to keep fighting for the positions that obviously we deserve, that we are qualified for. But obviously those that aren't as qualified as those that are, still get them before us for a reason,

because they don't want us there. I'm not sure what else to say. Yeah. We did get AG got one job. Yeah. So, I guess, baby steps, Ocho, baby steps. Yeah. So, yeah, I guess. Baby steps with your baby steps. Yeah, yeah. Listen, I'm I'm with you. We we we've been we've been we've been crawling and taking baby

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Right now we're being joined by two-time Pro Bowl running back James Cook. James, thank you for joining us, bro. What up, man? JC, what's up, boy? What up, my boy? Let me hold something, man. You got it. Hey, listen, put it on the floor, boy.

I'm going to pick it up, man. James, let's talk about this great season that you had. Over 1,000 yards, I think, what, 15 rush touchdowns during the season. Had an awesome season. on the floor, well, I'ma pick it up, man. James, let's talk about this great season that you had. Over a thousand yards, I think, what, 15 rush touchdowns during the season. Had an outstanding, like we just dropped him, bear with us, God, he's on his cell phone.

He was kind enough to join us. He was not gonna be in a situation where he could get land. But I appreciate that, bro. I was, as I I was saying great season, running the football, revamped offense as far as running the football, offense coordinated for first time, full time. He took over a year ago in the halfway through the season. When you look at what you were able to do in particular and what this team was able to do considering all the pieces that you lost.

You lost your two top receivers, you Matt Mulano was injured a lot of the season, a lot of your DBs, both of your safeties and White gone. Nobody really expected you guys to be in this situation. Did you really think that you guys had an opportunity, had a chance to end up being where you were in the AFC Championship game and what, three points away from actually winning that game? Oh, without a doubt. I mean, when you got 1-7 back there,

there's always a chance. Like, that's what I say. Like, I just feel like he wanted the best and he gonna put us in the best situation always win so When he back there and we back there and we connect in is it's something great Listen everybody always talks about Josh Allen. They always talk about him losing, you know Some of the some of the losing digs and in not having a superior

and in not having superior weapons on the outside. But what people don't talk about enough of is what you've been able to do. You take some of the pressure off of Josh Allen. Listen, you stepped into a bigger role in the Bills offense. How have you embraced being a centerpiece in that system? I just came to work every day for real, for real. That's all I can ever do.

I can control what I can control at the end of the day. But when you don't come in there and work, and you don't come in there and be that guy, and be that leader in the locker room, you will never be nothing. So that's what I tried to come and do. I feel like it's been working. I'm a team guy.

I'm always coming in at work. And when it comes on Sundays, I gotta kill you. Shane, when I look at you guys, I mean, you get so close every year. You had the best record in the AFC two years ago, and then you end up losing to Baltimore. And then this year you have unbelievable season and you lose to Kansas City in the championship game.

What is the next step? What do you guys need to do in order to get over that hump? Which is Patrick Mahomes in the AFC. We just got to be aggressive. Like I just feel like we got to be aggressive and you know, when it got like one five back there you got it. You got it. Just got to beat them like moral story like I can't say nothing you gotta just gotta beat him. Like moral of the story, like I can't say nothing to him, just gotta beat him. So when you come in games like that and you know when you're back against the wall, then you gotta win and you got your guys next to you, you gotta go win. You know you're playing one five. You know how it's gonna be.

You know it's gonna be ebbs and flows of the game. So you gotta just control what you can control and go out there and play football at the end of the day. So you would like to be more aggressive early on. You feel like you got, when you guys fell behind, then you became aggressive. You like to see that from the world. Jump! Let's go. Off the rip. Yeah. You know, it never happens that way for some reason reason especially when you get to play off games with games of

Extreme importance most of the time I think sometimes especially from a coaches standpoint as office coordinator You say you you overthink you overthink the game instead of just playing free, you know You're you're you already have what you've already done throughout the entire decision because you're playing the Kansas City Chiefs There's no need to press just continue to do what you've always done. And you use your bell cow, you, for instance, and 17 and just rock out. And I think they lost sight of that or he, the offensive coordinator,

lost sight of that once you got to that game and not allowing himself to just play freely, call the plays freely, because you got all you need right there in hand. And I think for one, y'all are going to consistently be back. You know, obviously you're in the AFC. Obviously I'm a Bango fan, but understanding what you guys have. And I want to talk about you from an individual standpoint and how much your game has evolved

from a rookie to now and where you are right now. What do you think you need to work on? As good as you've gotten from your rookie season are right now, what do you think you need to work on, as good as you've gotten from your rookie season to this point, what do you think you need to work on to continue to evolve at the running back position? I just feel like I just gotta keep getting better. And you know, like, be able to be on the field every day and in key situations, like, I feel like I can do it.

Shit, just look at this point like what else more I could do like. Right. I just feel like man just keep me on the feeling and great things are happening. Hey we also, hold on hold on I got one more I like this here I like it. Listen there are a lot of good running backs in the league right. You know Henrys, the McCaffrey's, even though he was injured for most of the season. If there was one thing you could take from one of the running backs in the league

that you look up to and you're a fan of, if there was one thing from their game you could add to yours, what would it be? I'd go with Christian McCaffrey. Just like, there's all the explosiveness that he got in his game, man. What he can do with the ball and then So many positions that he can be in and you don't even know when he getting the ball

And he's just getting the ball to just go this bitch like yeah like all that like so Just putting that trick to my game and be able to learn from from what he doing in my like I look up to my brother. So it's like whatever he can whatever I learn from him I put that in my game and yeah, just try to just go out there and play football that in the day shit We've been doing it. Yes, there are reports James and you can confirm or deny this that you want to be the highest paid running back in the NFL and men like hold on wait a minute now I Don't know if he's earned that or he's deserving of that What do you say to the people that says,

man, James Cook don't deserve to be the highest paid running back, I'm sorry. At the end of the day, I feel like we just going against running backs. And I feel like we deserve to get paid. And cause when they come down to the back end of the season, we play a big part of this shit. Like, so, however they want to take it,

then I'm standing with the running back shit we deserve it shit. Now if I'm not mistaken you can correct me if I'm wrong again. Now it's reported that there were a phone call between a lot of the top running backs yourself and McCaffrey and Derek Henry and Saquon Barkley and I think Josh Jacobs was on that call. When you guys had that call if you were on that call. When you guys had that call, if you were on that call, what was that discussion? Yeah, we valuable and we deserve what we need because we in the trenches every time. Yeah, we bang. Yeah

When they come down to the stretch we you you gotta run the ball, right? So it's like like how's we not valuable? Like how do we not valuable if we, how is we not valuable? If we can read the back end of the season, you have to run the ball when it's snowing. This shit get six feet of snow. So when you put this, like, we got to run the ball. So it's like, what more can you like, how is we not valuable? Like, at the end of the day, like, it's, it's, it's, it's point blank period. And you see, like, what we do and the position that we play, we play a big part of offenses, like, this period. Right.

And you know what? You are correct. And the NFL owners, I'm not sure when that dynamic shifted to where the running back position wasn't valued the way it used to be. Obviously, during UNX era, you know, during my era, you know, the running back was a very important position. And you guys can actually fight, you guys have a case, you guys can voice your reason for wanting

and commanding the kind of money you want because players like you, Saquon, Derrick Henry, Christian McCaffrey, and maybe two others, you know, your Jonathan Taylor's. I'm gonna get Jameer Gibbs. Yeah, Josh Jacobs Taylor. I'm gonna get Jameer Gibbs. Jameer Gibbs, Josh Jacobs as well. You guys are at the forefront of being able to command the kind of money you want because of what you guys are able to do

and taking some of the pressure off your quarterback. When the team needs you guys to grind the clock out, who's the one to show up? Y'all. Bail cows. Bail cow, that's what it is. And most of you can play three downs. Use a goddamn dude threat.

So you should be getting two goddamn checks. You can line up outside, you can catch it at the backfield, you can hand it off to you. I mean, listen, I'm with you, especially when it comes to getting paid, because y'all bring a different dynamic than more than just being a running back,

because you do more than just running the goddamn ball. And I can say just one thing, though. I just feel like we just do so much, just by going to practice and doing all the little shit right. And I just feel like we deserve enough of it. Like, why not? Like, shit, we work all our life to get paid. Like, send me the big bucks. Like, shit, why not, bro?

Like, I wanna go chase the highest, highest of the highest. Like, and I'm gonna keep doing it. Like, I'm gonna stand on what I stand on. Like, and I don't wanna feel like a cancer at all, cause I don't like all that attention and All that all that like that's not me like honestly like and I just I'm just standing on business man If you think about it, uh, what I deserve go ahead. No, go ahead finish up That's it what I deserve when I if you think about it James since McCaffrey got that 16 million

Nobody's even come close to that number. And so now you know you're going to uncharted territory. You look at what St. Quine got, I think St. Quine got about 13 and a half. You saw what Henry got, he got about what, eight and a half. You see what Josh Jacobs got, I think he was around 12, 11 and a half, 12. So you know when you say you wanna be the highest paid and McCaffrey is at the number that he's after, you know you're reaching for the stars

or you hope you land on the moon and get something close to that? Or you wanna jump over that? And I just wanna get what I deserve, shit. That's all. That's all. I just wanna get what I asked for. That's all. What role did you ask your question? I had a brother that played in the league before I got there. I

idolized my brother and I wanted to be just like him. What role did your brother play and how good? Because I'm surprised. I think everybody's surprised you didn't follow his path in Florida State. You went to Georgia. You're probably glad you did. But what role did your big brother play in the guy that we see today that's turned into one of the pre-mil running backs in the NFL? A big role, honestly. Just like, just if I ask him a question, it's just, he always there for me.

It's like, he always tell me to be myself. Don't ever like, stop from what got you here to like, create myself to be somebody that I'm not. So I just feel like that's what he told me and I'm gonna keep continuing to be myself and just always have that older brother in my ear to always guide me in the right direction. And I'm gonna, that's my oldest brother and I'm gonna always listen to him. So I feel like he a great me in the right direction. And I'm gonna, and that's my oldest brother

and I'm always listen to him. So I feel like he a great, he the great shit. He's set the standard. So it's like, why not follow it? It's like, if I don't follow it, it's like, I set myself short, cause I had an older brother to lead the way and show me the ropes on how to get there. And if I don't follow it, I'm a failure.

I feel like, you know what I'm saying? So it's like always just keep working hard and keep grinding and get what you want. And like, shit, that's all I'm saying. Yeah. Hey, you know what's funny when I think about it? I would have loved the opportunity to have a brother. You know, Santana, you.

I'm trying to think of other, give me one more set of brothers. JJ, PJ Y, Peyton and Eli Maddie. I mean, yeah, that man, that has to be like the greatest feeling to have a brother. And when y'all were growing up, did y'all compete? Did y'all compete? Now, obviously, I know you went to, I don't know. I'm not sure when you was that central, when he was that central, you weren't there though, obviously, right? No, no, right? You were a little younger.

Yeah. Now that, that has to be the greatest feeling. Bro, we still have to beat to this day. It'd be so crazy, we competed in Uno. Still? Yeah, yeah. You see? Hold on.

We competed in Uno, we competed in the game. Shit, if we, whatever, we compete, cause like, we brothers, and we brothers, and we understand, we never gonna go against each other, and we always understand, at the end of the day, you my oldest brother, and I respect you to the most up high, and I never do nothing to ever even fail my family,

because I know I was guided the right way. Let me ask you this, what do you listen to to get you in that move? You get you locked in before the game So what when you when you when you got the head the beats on you got the headphones on you what? What you vibing with to get you locked in? I ain't even gonna lie to you. I'm a young boy. Okay. Oh young boy time and it's like I gotta get up I gotta get up for the game. So it's like Before the game I slow down,

listen to a little R&B, calm myself down before the game. Never get too low, never get too high. So pregame, get myself together, I'm vibing to a little R&B, calm myself down. But before I get on the field, the smell is hot, and young boy, it's time to go. Hey, has it ever bothered you, right? Obviously being a Florida boy, you know how the weather is out here.

It's always hot. You know, when we get a cold front, our cold front is about 70 degrees. Has the weather, have you gotten used to the weather out there in Buffalo? Has it bothered you at all? Oh, no, you get adjusted to it. I feel like that's a mindset. Like, shit, you gotta go out there and feed your family. Shit, what I'm gonna do?

Shit, gotta go out there and play at the end of the day. Right. Hey, for two hours. So I just start that shit up. For what they paying? I ain't gotta be out there for two hours, is it? I'm good. Stack a fight.

Oh yeah. Hey, James, thank you, man. Congratulations on a great season. You made the Pro Bowl. Hopefully bigger and better things to come in the future. Hey, stop back by when you sign that big payday. Stop back by and drop something off for us. You already know.

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