Club Shay Shay - Nightcap - Hour 1: NBA All-Star, Kenny Smith's comments, Fixing the Dunk Contest

Episode Date: February 19, 2024

0:00 Introduction4:00 - East beats West in ASG7:00 - Lack of effort Pro Bowl vs. NBA ASG12:00 - NBA East vs. West which is better?16:15 - Steph vs Sabrina17:30 - Kenny Smith22:00 - Shannon says Dame is better than Steph from distance25:00 - Slam Dunk Contest36:00 - How do we fix the dunk contest?42:30 - Celebrity All Star game49:00 - Dunk on Unc #Club #VolumeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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So please go vote for us. Please, please make sure you go vote for us. Ocho, the East beat West 211. The first time in All-Star game history that a team has reached 200 points. The East wins 211-186. Dame Lillard had himself

quite a game. Well, quite a weekend. Not a game. He had an outstanding game, but he had quite a weekend also. He won the three-point competition for the second. He went back-to-back in the three-point competition. And he was the All-Star game MVP. I thought Hallie was going to steal competition for the second. He went back-to-back in the three-point competition. And he was the All-Star Game MVP. I thought Hallie was going to steal it at the end.

Hallie, he's Indiana Pacer. All-Star Game was in Indiana. He finished with 32 points on 10 made threes. But I think when you look at Dame, and he hit two threes from half court. I ain't talking about no heave.

These guys are shooting their regular shot. They shoot the ball with such ease. But me personally, I don't think the NBA is excited about this. Not 200. These guys are ultra talented, and I don't want to take anything

away from them because they're extremely, extremely skilled. You've been to a game and you see the effortlessness in which they can shoot the basketball. And that's why I was telling you, I said, Ocho, the guy at the end of the bench will go down to the YMC and drop 50 on anybody. Easy.

He barely sees the floor. Entering tonight's game, LeBron had played in the All-Star game with 30 percent of all-stars ever so 30 percent of the guys that have ever made an all-star game LeBron James has played with it that's crazy that's crazy so this this this all-star was his 20th all-star right 20th consecutive starts now Now that that's unbelievable. And I don't think I don't think well, me, I'm I consider myself

the casual fan. But I think those that also love the game of basketball, I don't think they appreciate the greatness that we have in front of us or that we are witnessing from LeBron. I think we take it for granted.

And I think until he's done playing the game, not until then will those that really love the game of basketball appreciate him for what he's done for the game and the longevity and consistency in which he's been able to play at a very high level. Yeah, I think you're right, Ocho, but that's kind of how it goes with greatness. Hell, I don't think people appreciated Edison for what he did and Einstein for what they did. appreciated edison for what he did and einstein for what they did we didn't appreciate chopin and the great painters you know uh picasso and and and michelangelo we didn't and during their time i don't believe people appreciated them because their paintings wasn't going for hundreds of thousands of dollars no you can get a picasso very very cheaply in the time in which he lived so there will not be appreciation that we have for him now right with anything oh that's the way we understand that but as as we get further away and those guys are no longer doing it and obviously

when they're deceased we have like damn these guys could really paint they could really you know do music yeah uh and so but the east beats the west 211 and 186 i think the uh the west made 43 they got up 97 threes i think they made 43 of them yeah they not out there they out there they out there just playing around they was tell me tell me tell me this chat i know y'all watching. What's worse when it comes to lack of effort? The Pro Bowl when they was wearing pads or the NBA All-Star game when them boys just out there chilling?

What? I shouldn't say lack of effort. I should just say having fun, trying to do everything to prevent injury. Right. Well, a lot of times people look at the All-Star, people look at it like they look at the NBA and you see some of these 150, 153 to 147 ball game

and they say, hell, they're not playing any defense. But you know, in an NFL game, they knock your butt off. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But it got to the point in the Pro Bowl, Ocho, they weren't tackling, they were two-hand touching. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But it got to the point in the Pro Bowl, Ocho, they weren't tackling, they were two-hand touching. Yeah, yeah. And so you can't, at the end of the day, you're still playing basketball.

You're shooting threes, you're dunking the basketball, you pass the ball. At that point in the Pro Bowl, that was no longer football. That was touch. That wasn't tackle football. And I said it. And at the time, oh, you've, I said, no, the NFL, they're not going to put, play

that kind of money, give these guys $100,000 to the winners and $50,000 to the losers and put these guys up. They're not going to do it. Right. With that kind of effort. They're just not. Yeah. I don't know. As one or someone

like myself who is just now getting into the game of basketball, trying to be a little bit more knowledgeable of it so I can interject myself in conversations like this. It just, to me, it looked like dudes just out there, for one, having fun. It's the mid break. It's the all-star break. You know, they're still in season. And I think most of them, well, from what it looks to me from the outside looking in, they're trying to prevent themselves from getting hurt. They are having a little fun, and there's a lack of defense as well. I enjoyed it. I mean, I enjoyed it for what it is, but I understand

why they're not playing as hard as obviously most folks would want to see them play. Well, I think Ocho kind of growing up, watching this game, going back to the 80s, obviously the guys didn't shoot the ball. The three was not, the emphasis was not what it is now. And so the guys, I don't know.

I'm going to say the guys couldn't shoot. I mean, you had a handful of guys. You might have one or two guys on the team. You got seven, eight guys per team now that can shoot the basketball as good as any of the top two guys could on an. You got seven, eight guys per team now that can shoot the basketball as good as any of the top two guys could on an NBA roster back in the 80s. That's how good they can shoot the basketball now. I don't think

I'm out of line by saying that. But I think what has happened, Ocho, is that same thing with the Pro Bowl. Yeah, I mean, it wasn't, you know, we would tackle the guy to the ground. But come fourth quarter, oh, you better buckle it up. Oh, listen.

I know during your time, y'all play some ball. During my time, oh, we play some ball. When that fourth quarter came, and we done paid for our parents, we done paid for our friends and family, and it's time to recoup that money

that we done already spent? Oh, boy, listen. I'll never forget. Every time we hit that fourth quarter and Ray Lewis say, all right, let's buckle it up. Playtime is over. Man, we out there hitting full speed. And that's kind of how it was in the All-Star game. But now the game is so far out of reach come fourth quarter, you can't tee it up.

Right. And those guys, and I'm not saying sit in a chair for 12 minutes, but they just, it is what it is. I don't know. I mean, from the reaction that I got on my timeline, I don't think the fans, the basketball fans are happy about it.

I think they just come to expect that. That's what it's going to be now. So we just expect it. Don't expect anything more. Don't expect anything less. it's going to be now. So we just expect it. Don't expect anything more. Don't expect anything less. It's going to be a three-point dunk contest. I mean, that's what it is, three-pointers and dunking the ball. So nothing else.

That's what it's going to be. Guy's going to be taking shots from me. Luka took a shot from three-quarters court. And it was still 32, 33 seconds left in the ball game. Right. But Dame won the MVP. I mean, wow. You had Dame had 39.

Jalen Brown had 36. Tyrese Halliburton had 32. Hell, Cat, in a losing effort, had 50. Woo. Oh, he was trying to get the MVP, but you can't get MVP if you're on a losing team, huh? No. Hell no. And the East scored East, I think this might have been the first time

or why I know it is, because there's never been a two and a point game. This was the first time a team scored 50 points in every single quarter. The East All-Stars scored 50 points in every quarter. 53, 51, 56, 51 Look, you would know better than I do

So let me ask my basketball questions Because the East and the West Which is more stacked or the stronger of the two? Well, if you look at it just by roster, just by names Yeah, by rosters Yeah, the West was. You had KD, LeBron. No, no, no, no.

I mean, once regular season starts, which side is more stacked, the East or the West? When I look at the East, you look at Boston. Right now, they're the best. A lot of it is contingent on Joel Embiid's health and the Bucs. I really think I like what the Knicks have done, but I don't think the Knicks can beat the Bucs. And the seven game series. The question is, Ocho, is Joel Embiid's health.

He had that repair and then that's a big guy. Big guys need to continuously work. They need to do cardio throughout the season or their weight goes up. So he's going to take a month or two off. So now how does he get himself back into basketball condition peak? Because once the playoffs start, you're playing every other day. But I think you look at the West, you look at Denver,

you look at the Clippers, although the Timberwolves, they're young, but Ant-Man, you know, you got Cat, you got Gobert, they got a big front lineup. You got two guys, number one overall picks

that can score the basketball. You got, obviously you got Phoenix, KD, Book, Bradley Beal. Bradley Beal, okay. The Thunder, Shea, Shea Gildress,

those guys are really, really young, but they can get up and down. Yeah, they can get up and down, but they're too young. We talk about seven-game series. I mean, we're not expecting them to be in the finals or nothing like that, right?

No, no, no. I wouldn't expect... No, I don't think they can be... I don't think in a seven no, no. I wouldn't expect. No, I don't think they can beat. I don't think in a seven-game series they can beat the Nuggets. I don't believe they can beat the Clippers. The Lakers, if the Lakers can get healthy and stay healthy, because you got LeBron, you got AD, you got two top-10 players, I believe, currently in the NBA.

D-Lo has been unbelievable since his name surfaced in the trade rumors. Obviously, the trade's not going to happen now. He's been playing phenomenal. Austin Reeves has been great since he, about 10 games into the season, got inserted to the starting lineup. I like the late addition of Dinwiddie. I would probably say it all depends who comes out of the East. I think that would determine who would be favored.

So the Heat probably. No, hell no. Now, you just said the team that come out of the East would be favored, so I'm assuming it would be the Heat. Nah, Ocho, this ain't y'all year, bro. You don't think so? Nah. Nah.

All right. It's not. So, I mean, excuse my bad basketball knowledge, but the three-headed monster in Milwaukee, Middleton is healthy, right? Middleton is healthy? Nah, not really.

He hasn't been the same since they went down at knee several times. He's not the same player, Ocho. He's not the same. So the Bucs only have, basically, they only have... Dame and Giannis.

Dame and Giannis. You see, that's all they got. That's pretty good. So coming out the West, the Clippers basically should be in the finals with Kawhi, Westbrook, and Paul George. The Clippers might have the most depth, but everything is going to be contingent on Kawhi and PG's health. Staying healthy.

Okay. Okay. That seems to be their bugaboo every single year. Kawhi gets Nick. PG gets Nick. One of those guys goes down. Last year, both of those guys ended up going down. If they can stay healthy, they're going to be

tough to deal with. Obviously, the Nuggets with Yoke and that team, Jamal Murray, his health, can he stay healthy? What's the third dude? It's another dude in Denver that's good. Jamal Murray, Jokic, and there's one more. Michael Porter. Oh, you talking about Aaron Gordon? They got Aaron Gordon, Michael Porter Jr.?

See, I know my shit now. Yeah. I'm just throwing names out there. Let's go. But it's going to be very interesting down the stretch. Steph Curry caught fire just in time and defeated Sabrina Inescu. Inescu. In the first ever NBA WNBA

three-point challenge challenge challenge Sabrina did not want to shoot from the women's three-point line which is 20.6 inches

and so she shot from the NBA line oh so I felt she acquitted herself very well it wasn't like Steph beat a 29

and I look it's a loss I get that but I think she that. But I think she acquitted herself. I think she did the women's game quite well because she only lost by three. Had she

lost by 10, maybe people would have said, well, if she was shot from the women's line, this or that. But I thought she just goes to show you you can shoot the basketball, you can shoot the basketball. No matter what. No matter your gender, no matter your gender. The funny thing about it is, Steph Curry won one of the three-point contests with 29 shots, right? 29 points, 29-26.

Okay, 29-26. Well, hell, when you look at the other people that won the three-point contest as well, shoot, she would have tied with them. So she shot the ball very well. Day one, she scored 26. Yeah, exactly. She shot the ball very, very well, she would have tied with them. Day one, she was scoring 26. Yeah, exactly. She shot the ball very, very well. Very well. So, she had nothing to feel bad about.

And obviously, what she was able to do was very commendable. Very, very commendable. From what I could read on my timeline, I don't know how much you saw, but I thought people took offense to what Kenny said. Kenny said, but I thought people took offense to what Kenny said. Kenny said, but he probably regrets it

going back and looking at it or hearing himself. She should have shot from the women's line. That would have been a fair contest. There's a women's tee in golf and there's a men's tee for a reason. Yes, but the women play against the women when they hit off the women's tee. If the women play against

the men when Annika Sorenstam, when Michelle Wee, you got to play from the tips. Right, right, right. It is what it is. Right. I mean, if a man, if in the Olympics and you're racing,

you don't get to say, okay, in the 100-meter dash, Shelly Ann Frazier or Sharika Jackson or Eli Thompson or Sha'Carri Richardson, don't get to say, okay, we're going to start at the 80, y'all start at the 100-meter dash, Shelly Ann Frazier or Sharika Jackson or Eli Thompson or Sha'Carri Richardson, don't get to say, okay, we're going to start at the 80, y'all start at the 100. We go. You start from the 100. And I think more so, even for her, the fact that, you know what, I'm going

to shoot from the men's three-point line and show you I can hang with you and do just as good as all of you can do. And she showed that. She shot just as well as some of the other competitors in the contest, almost and she showed that. She shot just as well as some of the other competitors in the contest, almost beating Steph. Yes. She did a great job. It's

okay. It's okay. It's shooting the basketball. She never said she's a good player as Steph. She never said that she can handle the ball like Steph. She said, I believe I can hang with Steph shooting the ball. And she did just that. And she did just that. Now, had just that. Just that, yep.

Had she won and she shot from the women's line, what would everybody say at Ocho? When she shot from the women's line, let Steph shoot from there. Exactly. Exactly. That's why I'm glad she chose to do that. And I think more times than not,

more times than any other time, during these times that we're in right now, I think women want to show that we can also do the same thing as men. Maybe not to the extent, but we can shoot from the free throw line. We can throw a football. We can catch a football

and just put themselves in position like we are showing that we can do it just as good as you guys do. Yeah. I mean, if a woman says, I don't play football, so what? We're not going to tackle her? I mean, she plays a position that demands to get tackled.

Guess what's going to happen, Ocho? She's going to get tackled. Yeah, she's going to get hit. Yeah, yeah. I mean, so a lot of times we see them, they play the kicking position. Speaking of, do you remember the women's lingerie league? Yeah.

I'm talking about when they was hitting. Oh, man. But they were hitting. I remember that. That was some good content. Right. I don't have a problem with it, Ocho. There were 10 million unique viewers watch the

All-Star Night on Saturday. Right. That's up 54% versus last year. It was the most watched All-Star Saturday night in four years. I think Sabrina Nescu being a participant here, now you got a lot more female viewers. The WNBA, a lot of women, they look at a Nenescu

or a DT, a Kelsey Plum, Gray, Aja. You know, they, Stewie, Breonna Stewart. I mean, come on. They're like, okay. Those are their role models. They're like, okay, I play,

I want to play basketball. And so this is somebody they can look up to and say, like, okay, I want to play basketball. And so this is somebody they can look up to and say, okay, yeah, I can be that. Yeah, okay. Is she going to get Steph? Yeah. Man, okay. That's live. Yeah, for sure.

And like I said, she lost. And I'm not saying, oh, you get – no. But I thought – I think people wanted Steph to score 40 and she'd have five. And that thing wasn't even close. But it just goes to show you that, hey, she's a very prolific shooter. And I felt that she acquitted herself really well. No, she did not win. No, she didn't.

You know what? Honestly, when you look at it, honestly, we talk about Steph Curry. We talk about the greatest shooter of all time. I'm not mistaken. I've heard you say it. I've heard Stephen A say it. Oh, yeah, he is. I'm going to say it, honestly, we talk about Steph Curry. We talk about the greatest shooter of all time. I'm not mistaken. I've heard you say it. I've heard Stephen A say it. I'm not going to say it too. We talk about the greatest shooter of all time.

We have a woman that just hung with him and only lost by three. Only lost by three. So technically, based on the numbers, it's a loss. But to me, she really won in the end. The women's game won. Yes. The women's game won. Yeah. The women's game won. The women's game won, yeah.

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I think Steph is the greatest shooter, but when it comes to distance, I don't think anybody can beat Dame Dollar. No? No, not from distance. I'm talking about just pure shooting. Steph probably is it, but from distance? Yeah, I mean, but I've seen, listen, I don't watch much game of basketball, so you got to stay with me a little bit now. Now, I've seen Dame Dollar

pull up and hit them boys with this. I've seen her hit them with the wave, but I've also seen Steph pull up from the logo from 30 feet, whatever it may be from the logo. So both, I've seen both of them do the same thing in game in pressure situations.

So how do you really differentiate between the in pressure situations. How do you really differentiate between the two when they both can do it? Dame just hit two half-court shots with 20 seconds on the shot clock. Not the clock running down, not anything. He just walked into it. Bam. He did it last

year. I mean, like I said, from distance, when I talk about distance, I'm talking about 35, 40 feet. Logo Lillard. I mean, like I said, from distance, when I talk about distance, I'm talking about 35, 40 feet. Logo Lillard. We're going to be interested. We can put it up in the chat. Ash, who do you think is the greatest put up? Who do you think is the greatest distance shooter? Steph or

Dane? I'm going next year. I'm going next year. And I think from here on out, I think I'm going to go to all the NBA All-Star games because I don't know when this was going to be LeBron's last, because I went to his first all-star game. That was in Denver in oh five.

And so I want to be in attendance for, I'm gonna go to the next two. Cause the next two are both are in California. Next one. They out your way. And 25 is in the chase center. And in 26 is going to be in the Clippers. I don't even know how to say it, but it is going to be in the Clippers. I don't even know how to say it,

but it's going to be in the Clippers in 26. So I feel very comfortable if I can make those two. I think LeBron can get to play 23 seasons. Then I think probably he didn't say it. So I don't want people to say, well, Shadow Sharp said it. He must know

sub LeBron. No. LeBron hadn't told me anything. Rich Paul hadn't told me anything. Maver I don't want people to say, well, Shadow Sharp said it. He must know sub LeBron. No, LeBron hadn't told me anything. Rich Paul hadn't told me anything. Maverick hadn't told me anything. Randy haven't told me anything. So this is just me. I think 23 seasons. I don't see him going past that,

but Hey, he might say, you know what? I want to get one more. Cause Tom, Tom went 23. I'm going to go 24. Yeah. And then if you go 24, Ocho, you might as well get a nice make it a silver and get a 25.

25, yeah. I'm going to go to the next two just to be safe and I think to see, I mean, 20 consecutive starts. 20 consecutive all-stars. That's crazy. Well, hell-Stars. That's crazy. Well, hell, if you going,

I'm going too then. Well, we going then. Ocho, Matt McClung wins the slam dunk contest. I got so many questions. I'm glad you brought, I'm glad we got this topic tonight. Okay.

This is what I want to know. If we saw Matt McClung dunk over Shaq, we've seen Aaron Gordon dunk over Taco Fall. How the hell do we go from Aaron Gordon dunking over Taco Fall, Matt McClung dunking over Shaq, to Jalen Brown dunking over Kai Sinat in a chair? I don't know.

I don't know. I don't know. Hold on. Chad, am I off? And I think Jalen Brown's a phenomenal player. I love his growth. You see a guy that, I mean,

still, I mean, his handle's a little loose for an NBA player of his caliber. But I think you watched his maturation. You watched the way his growth shows

that he's put time in. But, bro, what we doing? I don't know. Well, I mean, come on, Chad. Let's put time in. But, bro, what we doing? I don't know. Come on, Chad. Let's be real now. What was that? I mean, I'm assuming.

Listen, you know, I'm not the best one to come to the game of basketball. Is Jalen Brown considered one of those that has hops? Does he have a vertical like that? Oh, he got crazy hops. Oh, yeah. He got ups. Yeah, he got ups for sure. But I believe in order to be a great dunker In today's game you have to have creativity

Creativity That's what it come down to At the end of the day And I'm glad you brought out Mac McClung Because for one Obviously dunking is A small very very small part Of being able to

Play the game of basketball. For sure. I, for the life of me, I had to tweet it out earlier today for someone to explain to me in football terminology why someone with that kind of vertical in hops is not in the NBA. And for the life of me, I can't figure out. Okay, I know somebody said it's like running a 4-2, but you can't catch. But there's always something that they can do and use you in

based on you being able to be that fast. No, because even the guys that 4-2, that all of a sudden, you put them on kick return, but then all of a sudden they can't hold on to the ball. It's like, how many times have you seen a guy, you're like, man, that guy benched 500 pounds. Man, that man squat 600 pounds. Right.

And he couldn't play dead on the hard field. Yeah, but I'm saying I don't know much about Young Bull, but I know Young Bull can play the game of basketball. No, you know he can jump. There's more to it than that. That's just like in the NFL. There's more to being a running back than just running. You got to pick up the blitz.

You got to be able to catch it. How tall is he? I think he's only like 5'10", 5'11". Oh, he's small. Yeah. Okay, okay, okay. Even I understand the gripes about players being a little too short in the NBA

and how difficult it is for them to make it. Look at IT before he messed Taurus Laberman his hip. He was getting 30 a night. Yeah, and he was nice with it, boy. He was nice with it. Is that what affected him getting another chance and getting another opportunity? Yeah, he lost.

I mean, he lost. They say Matt McClung, Mac is a 6'2". Oh, wait. Well, hell, AI was... I'm not calling him Allen Iverson yet. Don't jump on my head. Don't jump on my head. I'm just based on the hype.

Allen Iverson was 6'1". But Allen Iverson was Cat Quick. Isaiah was 6'1". Yeah, yeah. Look at Zeke. Oh, yeah. But see, that's the thing. That's when they say

small guards don't win championships unless you're elite. Think about it. When you look at small guard, they've only been two that led the team to championship. Isaiah and Steph. All the rest of them have been big guards.

Well, Steph by 6'4", ain't he? He just looks short. 6'2"? They listed him at 6'3", but I think Steph and I, we look kind of like eye to eye. Okay, okay, okay, okay. Damn, that's dope, man.

It just, I just couldn't figure out, when I think about the game of basketball, obviously, I'm thinking, hell, how can, you know, McClung come off picks? Just, I mean, the different ways to create spacing, and do you think he knows how to not get open on his own? I'm thinking, how do you say he knows how to uh to not get open on his own i'm thinking i'm thinking uh how do you say it in basketball terms um beat somebody off the dribble yeah well that's what you got to do you got to be able to beat somebody i mean it's basically an nba is a one-on-one game right unless you unless they're the pick unless you're running plays and stuff yeah but i'm still

and still i gotta be able to look, there are a few like Gobert. Gobert ain't really taking nobody out. But most of the guys, the 400 guys in the NBA, probably 385 of them can take you off the dribble. Now, everybody is not the same off the dribble, but everybody can take you off the dribble. Right. And you look

at like a Nate Robinson. Yeah, Nate Robinson had ups, but Nate Robinson could shoot the basketball. Oh, so you don't think McClellan has a good enough shot to be able to make a roster? I mean, he was with the Lakers and he just popped around the G League.

At least somebody would have done giving him a chance by now, Joe. Oh, so he was with the... He has been on the NBA team. He was with the Lakers. All three rookie year. They brought him back. I mean, he was in the G League.

And then they ended up bringing him back for like the last couple of games. Okay. I like his story. Obviously, I didn't know anything about him until I saw the dunk contest. Yeah, he's back-to-back champ. In the dunk contest, Michael Jordan, Jason Richardson,

Nate Robinson, and Zach Levine. And now Mack McClung. He's the fifth back-to-back dunk champ in NBA history. I like his story now, man. I hope he get an opportunity, man. Look, Ocho, sometimes that's just, this is

his story. Everybody doesn't have a Hollywood ending, Ocho. He can. You just work on the things you need to work on. Obviously, work on your shot because the better you can shoot, the better your chances increase of making an NBA roster.

Well, even if he couldn't jump, if he could shoot, he'd be in the NBA. He's got a better chance of being able to shoot and being in the NBA as opposed to dunking and jumping and being in the NBA.

Right, right. I don't know. Because the game is about space, Ocho. Huh? The game is about space, Ocho. Huh? The game is about space now. Yeah. Can you shoot the bat? Look at, we just talked about it.

Look out. Look out. Everybody on that court can shoot the three tonight. Everybody. Yeah. Even Cat. Yeah. He a damn big man.

Went to three-point competition a few years ago. Hell yeah, he can shoot it. Hell, he was in the three-point competition last night. A seven-footer. Yeah. Yeah, he can shoot. I mean, like I said, with the exception of Gobert, look at Joel Embiid.

Joel Embiid shoots three to 7'1", 7'2". Yeah. Look at Nikola Jokic. Anthony Davis, 6'10". Kevin Durant, seven foot. Oh, that is crazy Durant, 7 foot. That is crazy. Buddy Boy is tall. That's why I'm saying the game has gotten so much more skilled.

Look, I look at it like this. When people say, what's the difference between the tight ends when you played as opposed to the tight ends now? There are more guys that could do what Shannon Sharp could do than when Shannon Sharp was actually playing. You got a Kittle. You got a Kelsey. You got a Kittle. You got a Kelsey. You got a Laporta.

You got a Hawkinson. You got a Joe Cruz. You got an Andrews. You got a Dawson Knox. You got Kincaid. You got so many guys. There were like maybe one or two guys that could do what I was doing when I was playing.

It was me and a little bit late in my career, Tony. Then I left. You had Tony. You had Gonzo. You had Witt. Bro, you got eight, nine guys that can go get you $1,000? Yeah. When I played, it was me and Coates.

That was the only two guys that can go get $1,000. Ben Coates? Yeah. Yeah. I showed him around. He came to Savannah State on his visit. I was a wide receiver at the time because my freshman year, I played wide receiver.

But our tight end that played tight end that year, his grades weren't that good, and Coach knew he wasn't going to be able to make it. So he had already told me, we're going to move you to tight end, son. I said, okay. So when Ben come, he's a tight end. He's like, hey, you you know I said what so what you looking for bro he's like man I want to start man I think that'll be big for me to my uh my

freshman to start I said we don't come to Savannah State because I'm moving to tight end you can't beat me out what you want me to say and you told him that like that yes now the last time coach had me show somebody around too. The goddamn home. The goddamn home. We ain't gonna get nobody. Coach, I came in good conscience. Tell the man to come here. He gonna start.

Knowing I'm moving to tight end. So my sophomore year, I'm at tight end. I'm gonna get 60 grabs for 1,000 yards and 10 touchdowns. You think he beat me out? You think a freshman gonna come in and get those numbers? 1,000 yards and 10 touchdowns. You think he beat me out? Nah. You think a freshman is going to come in and get those numbers? Because that's what it's going to take.

I'm an All-American. Conference player of the year, conference offensive player of the year, and first team. Come on, man. Man, come on, man. Talk your shit. And I did that with three, four quarterbacks. You know, listen, when you're good, it don't matter who's throwing it.

So I'm like, nah, man. I'm like saying bro go hey bro you want to start bro he goes to livingston the best thing happened for him he goes have a great career there goes into the nfl and we know he had uh i think ben had five with uh he was a first team on pro a couple years went to five provos here and i went to a number of Pro Bowls together. I gave Ben my helmet. You know how you exchange helmets? Your helmets, yeah. I said, but Ben, and you know how they give you the laundry bag to bring the helmets back. Right.

I told Ben, I said, Ben, don't put the helmets in your bag. Because if you put them in your bag, they never going to make that flight. I said, people gonna unzip those equipment bags

and take it out. They gonna take the helmets out. So I'm telling you what's gonna happen now. I get back two days later, homeboy, guess what?

I said, somebody stole the helmet I gave you. And what was unique about the helmet, I had a fracture in my eye socket. Right. So I had, it's the

old helmet, and I had a dark visor on it. So somebody got that helmet. It's very unique. It's the only one. And it was the last year that we had the old helmets. Oh, the dark, the bright orange. The blue

with the horse on it. Then we went to the Navy. Right. I said, Ben, we changing uniforms. I said, this helmet's going to be very valuable. Take this helmet on the plane with you. That means somebody got to hand it. I even let him keep the chin strap.

Gone. So somebody got the last year. Somebody got Sheldannon sharp's helmet with a dark visor and a chest strap into the boot but uh yeah man that was uh so the question how do we fix the dunk contest ojo because i'm a i'm a i'm a basketball fan but i will say this i remember when i first started watching the guys that were in the dunk contest, the majority of them was in the game. Yeah.

You had Dominique. You had a Larry Nance. You had a Michael Jordan. Now, the only guy that was in the game was Jalen Brown. I think last year, not one player was in the game. The last several years. I think in order to fix one player was in the game. The last several years. I think in order to fix it, in order to fix the dunk contest, you would have to ask the players, the players that are known for their vertical,

the players that are known for jumping out the gym. You need to ask those active players, why is it that you don't want to compete? What is it that we can do that can get you to want to compete? Are you nervous? Are you scared of getting hurt? Is it because you lack creativity? You got to ask them. You got to ask those that we're used to seeing that we know can jump out the gym. How can you help us make the dunk contest better? What are you scared of? Are you scared of competing? Are you scared of messing up in front of people? There's something to it where the best jumpers and the best players at

dunking choose not to compete. There's a reason why, and we need to get to the front of people. There's something to it where the best jumpers and the best players at dunking choose not to compete. There's a reason why. And we need to get to the bottom of it. How about this? What does the dunk contest do for a guy? Does it enhance his brand? Because now it seems to be guys are very brand

specific. If it doesn't enhance my brand, I'm not doing it. And be guys are very brand specific. If it doesn't enhance my brand, I'm not doing it. And the guys make so much money. Ocho, by the time the guy is 26, I mean, he comes out after his first year of college. By the time he's 26, he's made $300

million. What is the dunk contest going to do for him? Jason Tatum is, what, 25. He's about to sign a contract next year for over $300 million. He's already made 150. So what's the dunk contest going to do? Well, you know what? Maybe we can incentivize it a little bit more to get them young fellows. Now, you know, money. Tell me the incentive that you can give me. I make I make 50, 60 million dollars a year. Tell me the incentive that you could offer me to get me to do it.

That's a good question. You know, hey, listen, the funny thing about it, they make so much money to dunk contest. They just ain't going to do it. They just ain't going to do it because obviously money is money is normally the power tool and the best incentivization when it comes to doing anything. But if you're making that kind of money, what the hell I'm going out here dunking for?

And I'm on break. And I'm on break. Then you have the commitment. You got to practice the dunks. Then you have the media stuff. Guys, you want to do as little as possible. You look at LeBron. You didn't see LeBron until Saturday. He showed up Then you have the media stuff. I mean, guys like, you want to do as little as possible. Possible, right. I mean, you look at LeBron.

You didn't see LeBron until Saturday. He show up for the media day. They're going to do the shoot around. And that's pretty much it. They literally take it off. They are literally taking it off. That's why it's called the all-star break. Yeah. I don't think they'll ever.

And the fact that you said, as soon as you said money, they make this amount of money, ain't no way in hell Adam Silver gonna get them boys out there doing anything having to do with dunking. I mean, I'm surprised Jalen Brown. Jalen Brown got the first $300 million contract

and he was in the dunk contest. I think that's something that he's wanted to do. I don't know if these guys are, I mean, because the three-point shot has taken over for the dunk. Like when Kobe and Jordan and all those guys, the dunk was still the thing. Right. It's not the thing anymore.

More people watch the three-point competition than the dunk competition. Yeah. I guarantee you more people watch Steph and Sabrina Anusku. Three-point contest. Than watch the dunk competition. Right. Because you don't know half the guys. Yeah. That's unfortunate. Three point contest. Then watch the dunk competition. Because you don't know half the guys. Yeah. That's unfortunate.

That's unfortunate. I wish I could give you a more analytical or more, Ocho, this is why. But we don't know the guys. I mean, to see Jordan and to see Dominique and see

Kobe. To see the Dr. J's, the Larry Nances, those guys were in the game. These guys not in the game. They just like showing up. Yeah, they ain't trying to do nothing. And we don't know them. We don't know them. These guys, the guys that participated

in dunk contests back then, they were like household names. Even though they might not have been in the All-Star game, they were household names. And they had catchy names. Daryl Griffin was Dr. Duncan Stein. Clyde the Glyde. You know what I'm saying?

You had Eric Jordan. You had Dominique the Human Highlight. Doctor. You know another thing? What's that? I'm sure they got paid for that right yeah I think Dominique said that when he won the dunk contest his first time I think he got $12,000

well think about this they weren't making the kind of money back then that they are now maybe that's why everybody was doing it just to get that extra dollar I think the thing was guys wanted to be known they were dunkers that's what they were known for and they wanted that title.

Who's known as a dunker now? Nah. Guys shooting threes. Guys, I guarantee you, most guys have more three-pointers made than dunks. Right. Yeah, the game has changed. It is.

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but I knew they were playing to my hands because they had three guys trying to win the MVP right so they played selfish ball that's what I do I said if we can ever get them, I said, I'll tell him 50. I said, if we can ever get them down, everybody's going to come on that team. Those three guys are going to try to shoot the ball and try to win MVP to get them back into it. So let's just get them down.

Hey, I told, I said, Micah, bro, I'll watch you warm up. You'll game in from the outside. Get the ball. Get down here. I said, first of all, they're going to get out your way because you're 250. Ain't nobody trying to take no charge. So just get down here. I say, Puka,

you're the most athletic dude out here. Hey, we're going to find little guys. We're going to get some easy buckets here and there. I say, but y'all two guys got to go. I try to get everybody some playing time. Everybody like, man, put Kai in. Kai, I'm going to have a minute. I said, but y'all two guys got to go. I tried to get everybody some playing time. You know, everybody like, man, put Kai in. Kai, I'm going to see how many minutes I got, Kai.

Man, I got Kai 14 minutes. Man, I see. I saw his tweet. He said, tweet, man, put me in the game, coach. Oh, Joe. Kenny who? Kenny who? Oh, Joe. Yes, sir. I treat it just like a Pro Bowl

I'ma have fun But come four quarter We serious Oh yeah yeah yeah Game time Oh Jewel Game time Jewel Lloyd

Hey Because the way we had Like when Jennifer Hudson Was out there We had to have Lily out there Okay once she went off They brought Natasha Cloud

I think that's her name Natasha Cloud in Okay I put Jewel Lloyd But even when they took When they took The Cloud off Hey Okay, I put Jewel Lord. But even when they took Cloud off, hey, I left Jewel out there. I said, nah, hell nah, stay out there. You stay here. Right, right, right. Yeah. And we had, you know, we had a couple

of guys that, you know, Walker Hayes, he got us a couple of boards, and he was good on the offensive glass. Sir, good on the glasses. Hey, hey, Dylan Wayne. So, hey, check this out. And Dylan Wang. So his interpreter, I think he's Chinese. He's a Chinese movie star.

His interpreter comes to me, you know, taps me on the shoulder. I was like, yes. She brought him up. He came, say like, he handled the ball. I said, he good with it? He got handles? He shook his head. He looked at me, shook his head.

Yeah, I said, okay. You're not shooting too good, though. I said, oh, he can't He got handles? He shook his head. He looked at me, shook his head. Yeah, I said, okay. He not shoot too good, though. I said, oh, he can't shoot. Okay. Okay, we just let him handle it. Ocho, I put him in the game, give him the ball. I think he gonna handle it. Dude let a three go.

He started driving. I said, hold on, wait a minute. Y'all done read the okie doke on me. Y'all had me thinking he couldn't shoot, and he wanted me to get in the game, so he could shoot. Right, right, right, right. I say, man, y'all don't read. But he can handle the ball. Hey, he put it on the floor. He's Euro-stepping.

Hey, he play. He got, what'd he get? 21 minutes? He got 21 minutes, 9 of 14. He had 14, 18 points. What'd he get? 18? 18. He got a 15 shot, so it's your... He knew how to play some ball, man.

Man, that a red ogre don't go for you. He can dribble. He good. He can handle the ball. He not can shoot too good. I said, okay, he can't shoot too good? Good. We put him on the point.

Let him distribute the thing. Yeah. He coming in there. He coming in there gunning. He went in there cooking. Coming to that thing like, Lou Will, let it go. I said, come on, bro. Y'all done read a fast one on me.

But I told Micah, I said, I said, Micah, you're going to have to bring, I said, you and Puka, you're going to have to bring us home. He said, I can get the rebounds. I said, well, hell, if you're getting rebounds, put it back up in the glass. Put it back up. Y'all got a little change for that? hell, if you're getting rebounds, put it back up in the glass. Put it back up. Y'all got

a little change for that? I got bragging rights. You see what I'm saying? That's enough. That's all I wanted from Stephen A. I tried to tell him he's doing all that talking. You know, my partner ain't taking it serious. Are we supposed to be over here and shoot around? I got my heels kicked up

because I already know what was going to happen. Right. That's funny, man. They say, well, what you and Steven, they bet? I bet that look on his face. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, Ocho,

that look on his face. That's what I bet. That's what I want. Yeah, that's what all I wanted right there. Y'all ain't make no side bet, huh? Just the look on his face. Watch the show tomorrow.

Watch the show tomorrow. I'm going to be up. I'm going to watch it. Listen, I'm going to be up because I'm off work. I'm off. I'm on break. That's all I got now. All I got is nightcap now.

Remember what I told you, Ocho? I don't want your money. I want your pride. Right, right, right, right. You got to live with that. I'm done coaching. I'm done coaching. I ain't coaching no money. I want your pride. Right, right, right, right. He got to live with that. I'm done coaching. I'm done coaching. I ain't coaching no more.

I'm done. How long is this going to hold on? All the way to next year? Next all-star? I'm done coaching. Oh, you done? I'm one and done. I won the national championship.

Cut the debt down. I was a last-minute replacement coach anyway. Oh, for real? Yeah. Oh, okay. Okay. Okay. I just found out a couple of weeks ago that I was going to coach, man. Yeah. And then it was against him. I said, oh, yeah. I got this one. Yeah. And he's stacked the deck. I mean, he had guys. I mean,

he had CJ Stroud. He had Tristan Jazz. He had Metal World Peace, but I knew Metal wasn't in no shape. So I don't know. he was going to go up that time. Metal probably about 300. For real? Man, he's 6'8". So I

know his knees were going to start hurting. Back was going to start hurting him. I knew he couldn't get up there. Hey, how many minutes metal play? He played 19 minutes, which was about nine more than I thought he could play. But anyway. But you know, hey, they had the Olympic high jump champ. Right.

Jamarco Tambiri. He tied Barsham, the dude from Bahrain. They really good friends. And so they tied for the Olympic gold medal. But, nah. That's loud. But you can't one and done them, man. You got to bring them back to the game.

I'm good. They saw the skills. I told y'all I'm going to bring the pick and roll, put them in the pen, down the flare. I'm good. I just want to be Stephen A. He going to try to coax me. That's how I used to do my brother. My brother beat me. I was like coaxing back

out there telling him I gave him the ball first because it was important if you get the ball first. Make it take it. You want the ball first. So I coaxed him back out there. Man, I let you have the ball first. As a matter of fact, I let you have the ball the first two positions. Even if you miss it, I get the ball back to you. I just wanted to get him back out there. No, I'm done

Stephen A. So don't ask. I'm done. I'm officially done. You're going to have an excuse tomorrow, though. It can't happen. Ocho, this is your favorite time of the show. The next segment is called Dunk on Up.

Yeah. Oh, yeah. You ready? Hold on. We got some graphics. Okay. Oh, yeah. You ready? Hold on. No, we got some graphics. Okay, okay. We don't have this one ready. We got another one coming. Okay, go ahead.

Go ahead, Ocho. You ready? Yep. All right. Come on, chat. Y'all ready? Dunk on Unc Trivia. I know you're going to get this one wrong.

Only two NBA players have won All-Star Game MVP four times. Really? Only two NBA players have won... I don't want to read no more. Bob Pettit and Kobe Bryant. Are you cheating, man?

Somebody briefed you before this. Where Ash at, man? Ash and Diver. Nah, somebody briefed you before this. Where Ash at, man? Ash Endeavor. Nah, somebody briefed you on that. I ain't even finished the question. How you know? What you said before, I know. Yeah, see, hey, you know what?

What? I'm being bamboozled. Oh, Joe, I don't know why. Okay, okay. Now, if you get this, I know something going on. Something going on if you get this one. You ready? Yes.

Which of the following players has never won a dunk contest? Sean Kemp, Josh Smith, or Isaiah Ryder? Oh, Sean Kemp, number one. Man. J.R. Smith won the dunk contest in 05. Isaiah Ryder won it also. When he pulled the jersey up over his head. Sean Kemp, number one.

Hey, you be cheating, man. Hey, you got, they gave you some cliff notes or something? Ocho, I don't know, Ocho. If I don't go nowhere, what do you think I'd be doing? Yeah, but you don't even, like, I don't see you as a basketball head. Like, you just know all the fucking answers. I am. All right.

All right, here we go, here we go, here we go, here we go. Okay, come on. Which active, active, which active NBA player has the most scoring titles? Kevin Durant. Man, hell nah, man. That is some bull jive, man. He got four. He got four.

Who got more scoring titles than him? Shit, me. Russ got one. I think more scoring titles than him? Me. Russ got one. I think Harden might have two. Steph. I don't think any of the other guys got any scoring titles. Joel Embiid. Nah, see, they giving you the questions that we have are a little too easy

because you're not supposed to even know none of these. Why? Nah, if you're going to say who has the most scoring titles, then I would say Michael Jordan has 10. And then the next would be Will Chamberlain with 7. All right. Here we go. Next question. There's somebody

over there cheating. I don't know who it is. All right. Guess who I am. Okay. Guess who I am. I played in the 70s and the 80s. I am a 16 time all-Star, four-time MVP. Dr. J. See, that's too easy. That's too easy.

He won three ABA MVPs. He won the 82 MVP. Yeah. Because I think Moses was 81 and 83. Moses won the MVP three times. So I think Moses was 81 and 83. Moses won the MVP three times. So I would say Dr. J. See, you know the years and all, man. That's how you did your homework. Well, once you say 70

to 80, then you said four times MVP. I knew who it was. He played with the Squires. He started off with the Squires. I actually had a conversation with him. He ended up going to the Nets. Nets sold his right. He ended up going to the Sixers, I think, in 76. I'm doing the questions from now on.

I'm going to create my own questions from now on because something ain't right. All right, this is the last one. Ocho, you do realize, Ocho, I remember the Sixers used to be my team. And when they lost the title to the Portland Trailblazers in 77 with George McGinnis, Dr. J, World Breed Free, Caldwell Jones,

they had, who else was on that team? Caldwell Jones, George McGinnis, Darryl Dawkins, Dr. J. They had a nice little squad back then. And they started out, they started opening up 0-2, and then the Portland Trailblazers ended up taking four in a row from them. With Bill Walton, they had Big Bo Lucas, and

Alano Hollins was the guard, and Dr. Jack Ramsey was the head coach. Alright, this is the last one. This is the last one. But you know, you don't win. You don't win four for four, man. Okay, come on. Come on, Ocho.

At 6'6", who is the shortest player to ever lead the league in rebounds with 14.6 per game? Wow. Yeah. 6'6". Yeah. 6'6". Yeah. Yeah, you ain't going to get this one, buddy. you ain't going to get this one, buddy.

You ain't going to get this one, buddy. No, I'm just going to... Yeah, you're right. I probably won't get this. I'm just going to say Charles Barkley. All right, I'm gone, man. Hey, show over, man. You chill, man. I'm gone. What? Hey, man.

Where them asses at, man? Oh, chill. I know them asses at man Ocho I know them asses in that computer or something I can see through your glasses I see the reflection Ocho Why you ain't see Dennis Rodman Cause Dennis Rodman's 6'8

Man 6'6 6'8 is all the same No it's not First of all Ocho Do you know how bad Ash want to stump me? Nah, man. Her whole purpose is to try to stump me. That's all she does. Somebody over there helped you with this. Because if this was the SAT, you just aced that motherfucker.

Ocho, when it comes to sports trivia, I, you know, Ocho, like football, basketball, track and field, Olympics, stuff like that, it's going to be hard to stump me, Ocho, unless you, like, really go way, way, way back. I don't know, man.

I don't know. I just have a feeling that, you know, you were briefed on the questions, so you knew the answers. I just have a feeling that, you know, you were briefed on the questions so you knew the answers. I just, it was a little too easy for you. A little too easy. I'm going to come up with the questions myself. Ocho, you realize I was on Jeopardy, right?

I mean, I was on Jeopardy too. I played on my phone. I got the app. No, no, no. I don't tell you I don't know. I was at Axlite and rest your soul, Alex Trebek was asking the question. I won.

All right. All right. All right. I'm going to let you slide now. I'm going to let you slide tonight. I had a trivia. Oh, me? Oh, look.

We used to play trivia when he was at Broncos. Me, John, Steve Atwater. I do. What are our coaches named? Barney Shaavis. We call him Duke. And we try to ask trivia, try to stump.

You know, hey, I mean, what you want me to do? I mean, I think the people at home, I mean, the people that's listening to this chat, I think they feel very, very comfortable that I'm getting these answers without any assistance. No, I don't know.

I think the people in the chat might have a little... Ask what I'm getting these answers without any assistance. No, I don't know. I think the people in the chat might have a little... Ask one of them, Ash. Hold on, Ash. Who was the greatest... Who was the greatest... Who was the better distance shooter? Was it Steph? Because I don't see it in my thing.

Did Steph win or did Dame win as the greatest distance shooter? Wow. Steph, 69 to 31. Yeah, I mean, I think because Steph shoots the three balls so well, I figured everybody was going to go with him anyway, just based off that. Okay. Now it's time for Ocho, one of my other favorites.

We got a graphics. We got the graphics for this. Yes. Okay. It's time for our daily dum-dum segment. Ocho. Yeah. Our Airbnb host is being sued by a guest because the host sent pictures of the guest with another woman to the guest's wife

after he refused to pay $960 in fee and left a bad review. Ocho. That's crazy work. Ocho, when you in the wrong, you got to do right. Right.

Right. Or when you doing wrong, you got to do right. Ocho. You got to. If you heard the thing, Ocho, if you got,'re doing wrong, you got to do right. Ocho, if you heard the thing, Ocho, if you got, first of all, you married, or you got a girl,

I'm not going to be speeding if I got somebody in the car with me. The last thing I need is to get stopped. Damn. You asking for trouble. Now, you mean to tell me, man, I'd have paid that 960 dollars you about to be out of more than 960

you might be out of 96,000 or 960,000 if you got some red bro and a wife yes and a wife and you know what happens Ocho when you get divorced right they take half the money

and all the hoo-ha then that ain't a good deal Ocho no it ain't it ain't it ain't not when they take half your shit and the hoo-ha. That ain't a good deal, Locho. No, it ain't. It ain't. It ain't. Not when they take half your shit and the hoo-ha go right along with it. All the hoo-ha. The whole hoo-ha gone.

Your Honor, can she leave a quarter of a kid like on Mondays and Wednesdays or Monday and Thursday, I still do what I need to do? Because she getting half my money. She going to get half the pension. She going to get half. pension. She going to get half. Everything. Everything. That's why you got to read the fine print. Even if you have an iron clad prenup.

She leaving with something. Ocho, why if you doing dirt all the time, you going to take this situation to make a stand when you know they got cameras? Wait, they ain't supposed to have

no cameras in there, man. I mean, most people got cameras in their house. You got cameras in your house. Wait, hold on. That's against the law. That's an invasion of privacy.

It is. That's why he's suing. That's against the law. Okay. He's going to win the lawsuit and lose the wife. Yeah, you're right. Hey, wait a minute. Stay with me now. That's against the law Okay He gonna win the lawsuit And lose the wife Yeah you right Hey depending on Hey wait

Wait a minute Stay with me now Now depending on how much He wins in that lawsuit She gonna think twice About leaving She might Yeah

But here's the thing The Ocho She probably would've stayed But her friends But you know how them friends Don't get in the air Oh listen Them friends can get in the air

All they want Them friends ain't got no funds. Because if he win the right, if he win a comfortable amount of money, listen, you know, a woman that's hurt, well, she heal up like Wolverine, man. I hope, you know what I'm talking about. A woman that's hurt depending on what the money look like,

depending on the amount of zeros you have or you getting, well, a woman heal up like Wolverine. Yeah, you right, Ochoa. I tell you no lie. I hope he got one more than Airbnb because I'm about to have them all. When I'm done with it, when I'm done with it, Ochoa. Yeah.

Yeah, man. Oh, man, that's crazy. That's crazy. I mean, you got the move right. If you're going to do something like that, you don't do it at an Airbnb, obviously. Why you doing that? You run the risk, you go't do it at an Airbnb, obviously. Why are you doing that? You run the risk.

You go to a hotel. You run the risk of seeing somebody. Yeah. Yeah. So why are you doing that, Ocho? So, you know, the best thing you do. Hold on, Ocho. Ocho, let's be correct.

You shouldn't do it if you're married. Do it at all. Let's put that disclaimer right there, Ocho. If you're married, you shouldn't be. Because I know everybody. We got the moral police here, Ocho. Right, right, right. This is what Ocho and Shannon is saying.

If you're married, you should not be having sex outside of your partner. No. Wife or husband, whichever the case may be, once you become, once you stand before the judge

or you stand before the minister, the priest or whatever it is, who you're standing in front of, once you stand before the judge or you stand before the minister, the priest, or whatever it is who you're standing in front of, once you do that, all extra hoo-ha, all extra tally-whacker is off the table. It's off the table. That's the disclaimer. Now,

that's what we're saying. Ocho and I, we're in agreeance. That shouldn't happen. But it did. Man, do you know people that, people, you know, people, you could lose your life over some foolishness like this, Ocho. People don't be playing by people.

People be playing too much because everybody don't play. You trying to be cute. Everybody don't play like you play. Yeah. Yeah. That's life, especially when it comes to someone's woman, someone's wife. They don't play like you play. Yeah. Yeah. Well, yeah, man, that's life, especially when it comes to someone's woman, someone's wife.

They don't play. Hey, you know what I just noticed? Look how ashy I am. Yeah, man. You was born in North Carolina, huh? No, I was born in Liberty City. Nah, you're not born in Ashby. You know, I just washed my hand,

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