Club Shay Shay - Nightcap - Hour 1: NFL rule changes, Caleb Williams' biggest challenge, Humble beginnings

Episode Date: March 22, 2024

Shannon Sharpe and Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson discuss potential changes to the NFL rule book, what Caleb Williams has to do to win over his future NFL teammates & how Unc's humble beginnings made him who he is today 03:15 - Introduction 06:30 - NFL will not ban ‘Tush Push’ in 2024 season  12:00 - Troy Vincent says NFL should drop hip drop tackle  25:15 - Bears Jaylon Johnson says Caleb Williams “can’t bring that hollywood stuff”  31:00 - Relle joins show and talks about her “no makeup challenge” 34:30 - Russell Wilson and Jameis Winston workout videos go viral  45:30 - Unc talks about when he signed to join Savannah State and humble beginnings 01:00:30 - Shohei Ohtani’s interpreter steals money (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)      #Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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I am your favorite on Shannon Sharp. He's your favorite number 85 route runner extraordinaire. Bingo's Ring of Fame honoring pro bowler, all pro Liberty City's own Mr. Rail Risotto, Chad Ochocinco Johnson. Please make sure you subscribe to the Nightcap Podcast. Huh? Oh. Ocho, before we go any further,

what happened? What happened? What happened? Boy, what's that? What's that, baby? They can get your boy to it, he say. Wait, where mine at? That's it right here. Oh, you got, how you, hold on.

First, you got my little phone code. Now, you got my plaque. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Now, what, hey, hey, hey, put this in the chat. What should Ocho do to get his one million subscriber plaque and his phone code? What should Ocho be willing to give up? I've been doing it. I've been showing up.

They sent it to me. Well, why didn't they send it to you and you got my address? What the hell? I look like the mailman? What the fuck? I don't work for Amazon, Pride, UPS, all the US mail postal service. Listen, I need my plaque so I can hang my plaque

in my room now. You know what I need? I need some money to put my bill for, man. I feel you, man. Listen, honestly, listen, I ain't won many awards in life. I haven't won many things in life in general. But that plaque is special to me, and I need my plaque ASAP. I need to hang a million subscribers in less than

three months. You won. You just don't have the plaque. Just like you know what you did. You know, it's like self-gratification. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. I know what I did, but I need the visual representation on what I did hanging in my goddamn room. There you go. That's what I'm going to do.

Take a picture of that. And you can have a visual. Come on, man. You can have a visual representation. Hey, what color is that? What color is that? You get... Where's the silver one?

Oh, hold on. Yeah, I need that because the other one was silver. Right. You get... Yeah, I got that one hanging up. You get this one for silver, this one for silver. Right. I got that one hanging up. You get this one for silver, this one for gold. Yeah.

What's the next one? What's the next color? I don't know, but you got to get 10 million subs before you get that. Okay, okay. We're going to get there. Diamond? Okay, we're going to get to 10 million. I don't know what we're going to do, but we're going to get to 10 million.

That thing look good too. I don't know what we're going to do, but we're going to get to 10 million. I feel... That thing look good, too. I feel very fortunate and blessed because I have two 1 million subs. I have 200,000 subs. So, the support has been amazing. People in the chat say you might have to give up McDonald's

for a year, sex for six months okay, you can keep it you can keep it, don't worry about it you can keep it I ain't giving, I ain't giving I make my own goddamn plan you can't make good luck let's see you replicate that plan

you made a gold jacket, let me see you replicate that plan please you replicate that plaque. You made a gold jacket. Let me see you replicate that plaque. Please make sure you subscribe to the Nightcap podcast feed. You can listen to us through the Club Shay Shay feed, but we would greatly appreciate it if you signed up through the Nightcap podcast feed. Thank you guys for selling out Shay by

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December orders, but we should have enough. If you were to order, we should have enough to fulfill your order. Thank you guys for doing a great job of selling out that. Ocho, let's jump right right into it our first segment of the night is a news cap the nfl will not propose a ban the tush will not propose ban for the tush plus in 2024 nfl executive troy vincent reiterated today that the tush push will remain in legal play for the tush plus in 2024 nfl executive troy vincent reiterated today that the tush push will remain in legal play for the 2024 season is it best to say let's just leave it alone

somebody stop it yeah yeah that's all somebody stop it because if you think about it there's only one team that's very efficient at the tush push anyway and that's the eagles right they're the only team that seem to be able to get it so teams need to figure out a way to stop the tush push anyway and that's the eagles right they're the only team that seem to be able to get it so teams need to figure out a way to stop the tush push or don't allow them to have short distance you stop them on first and second you won't have to worry about third and one you won't have to worry about fourth and one but listen they're the only team that are really good at it there's no need to stop it it's it's a part of the game it's a part of football if we start if we start making rules to stop some of the small nuances that other teams struggle to stop, then they're going to start nitpicking and finding other ways

to stop other plays that people do as well. It ain't that big of a deal. I understand why people – because, Ocho, before, you couldn't aid the runner, which means you couldn't push him. Now they say you can push him, you just can't pull him. You remember before, the guy would get close to the end zone, his offensive lineman would pull him. And the lineman are pulling in yeah you can't do that but you can get behind him and shove him

and so that's basically what the tush push is you but jaylen hurt squat 600 pounds he has tremendous leg drive the offensive linemen they get low and then you know sometimes he hits the hold right behind the center or the a gap sometimes he goes a little further off and he has somebody in behind him that's giving him a shove so i agree with you ocho i think teams need to come up with a way to try and stop it good luck with that um because jaylen hurts has such leg drive that is really hard for teams to stop it and they've done a great job they've mastered it they were the first team that we saw do this. They've gotten really,

really good at it. We've seen a lot of teams try to replicate it, but none of them to the success of what this Josh Allen is about. But Josh Allen is six, five, 255 pounds. So it's 50 pounds. So good luck trying to stop that.

But I think they're going to leave it alone. I mean, they've tried this, what the third year in a row? They've had discussions about stopping it, and they haven't said, no, we're going to leave it in one more year. Listen, it's part of the game, man. It's part of the game.

It's football. And defensively, listen, crowd the box. Crowd the box even more. Shoulder pad is shoulder pad. Low man wins. Leverage. That's all it is. Shoulder pad is shoulder pad. Low man wins. Leverage. That's all it is. You just got to fire off.

And then guess what happens? Now they low man. They fake it into the line and pop up. They throw the pads down the field. But let me ask you a question. There you go. With Jason Kelsey retiring, the all-pro center, the all-world center for the Eagles, will it still be to have the same effectiveness?

You know what? I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I mean, I'm sure there will be somewhat of a drop-off with Jason Kelsey leaving and another center coming in. But obviously, you got to learn the technique. You got to learn the technique to keep the show going. Yeah, it's tough.

I mean, he was so good at getting low and crawling and rooting people up out of there. Because at first, your center can't get stymied. Because if he gets stymied, where does the quarterback go? So he has to get some – exactly. Backwards. Exactly. So he has to get some momentum. He did a great job of that.

And the only thing you can do is try to guess the snap count, try to jump the snap. But then that's when they get you offside and they get a free five yards. and so you don't even have to use the touch push it's a very difficult play to stop the eagles have done a great job of the technique clearly it's something that you can tell kind of like a rugby scrum that they've mastered in which they get the low man wins and they know the snap count so kudos for them for uh coming up with something but i'm glad they don't stop this play because somebody's going to say, well, you know what? Hey, Patrick Mahomes

throwing for 10 touchdowns on this one play. We can't let them do that. So where do we stop? You've got to draw the line at some point. You have to draw the line at some point. They've already handicapped the game enough. Let's slow it down a little bit. They're about to have

to handicap the game again. NFL EVP, Troy Vincent enough that let's let's slow it down they about to have they about to have that uh uh about to handicap the game again nfl evp troy vincent also reiterated the hip drop tackle is something we want to get out of our game he added the greatest asset for any athlete is durability and availability when you have a play that has 25 20 to 25 times the injury rate it doesn't allow you to fulfill your dream now i told you this oh cho i said I said, Ocho, they're going to get that up out of there. I said, because the injury is too great. You rarely see somebody get that tackle

and come back the next play. They always limp off the field. We've seen Tony Pollard get injured. We've seen Patrick Mahomes get injured that play. We've seen so many guys. Dak Prescott got injured with the drop tackle. I just knew because the high rate of injury that they were going to do something with it.

Yeah, most definitely. I knew you were right. Obviously, I think one of the things I think about, I'm just thinking about physics, the laws of gravity. If you have someone pulling you down, I would just go with the fall. Now, that's the way to counter it. If they didn't, if they didn't ban the hip drop tackle. If you feel that pressure, just let it go. When you try to fight it, when you try to continue to get more yards after. But again, it's a great call for them. I mean, for Troy Vincent and NFL competition.

Competition committee, excuse me, to ban the hip drop tackle because a lot of players, for one, and NFLPA. Competition Committee. Competition Committee, excuse me, to ban the hip drop tackle because a lot of players, for one, have gotten hurt. Some have recovered. Patrick Holmes, obviously, took it to the Super Bowl. But he did have a bad ankle. He had a bad ankle right off

of that drop tackle. But again, it's a good thing for the defenders. The defenders now, you're going to have to be a little bit more disciplined on your angles when you tackle now if somebody if somebody's getting away from you i think it's an advantage for the offensive players as well because as you tend to break away if you're a little bit if you're a little bit faster than the person that's chasing

you he damn they're gonna have to just let you go he He's going to have to let you go. Even if he's an arm, if he's an arm's length to be able to reach and grab, now you can't. I think that if you think about it, Ocho, I think the thing, what happened is, is that they've seen this when I don't remember this now, it might've happened because I was

looking at a tackle. I do remember the horse collar tackle happening, but there was not a whole lot. This, this play has come in say, heavily like the last five years. This wasn't in there when you first got to the league. You didn't see a whole lot of tackles like this, Ocho. I don't remember seeing a whole lot of tackles when I got into the league and even when I was exiting at the end of 2003. But over the last five years, you've seen a guy.

And, Ocho, I knew that I could put my helmet on a guy and meet a certain way that I could injure it I know that you know what's gonna happen when you when you drop all your weight two thirds two uh if you're a DB whatever your weight is 180 to 205 if you're a linebacker you two-third into 250 you drop all your dead weight on a man that's standing upright yeah you already know what's gonna happen to get to get him down yep that that's why i said the only counter offensively for players i mean if you if you smart and you feel the force of someone with their weight on you it's just go with it just flow with it and it'll prevent injury but again this is the right call by the the nfl committee and the competition committee

and troy vince's a lot but again defensive players again yet again are at a disadvantage well that's what they've said is that in-game scoring have gone a game to game scoring has dropped the last three seasons they want to see an uptick in that. That's why they instituted the rules to begin with. The defenseless receiver, the quarterback, you know, not hitting the defenseless quarterback, driving the quarterback into the turf, incidental contact. They won't score. The fans have already spoken.

As much as they say, oh, it's flag football, you love that. You love the 35 to 38 ball game. You love the 41-38 ball game. You love the overtime ball game that ends 31-28. You got tired of the 10-7s. You got tired of that. You got tired of 7-6. It's just like baseball.

Oh, the purists like a game 2-1. But the fans, the purists, they're to one, but the fans, the purists, they're not enough purists that was going to the game that was watching the game. So they wanted to see a nine, eight ball game in baseball. They want to see the home runs basketball. You see what they did. They made the lottery. They spaced the floor.

Now they're the three point shot and not teams are getting up and down the court. And you see him one 30, one 38 141 to 130 uh there was a game a couple of weeks a couple of months ago 153 to 151 that's what fans like to see i don't want and i'm not lying i don't want to see if i go to a basketball game i don't want to see no damn 78 to 71 what well i have a question if we have teams and basketball scoring at such a high rate, does that mean there's a lack of defense as well? It is a lack of defense, but the rules, I think they call it a little bit more ticket attack.

Gil was saying that the hand check, they stopped the hand check. But he said the hand check has always been banned below the free throw line. But back in the 80s and 90s, they arm bar you. They're like, nah, you ain't backing me down. But fans like scoring, no matter what the sport is, be it hockey, soccer, baseball, basketball, football, people like scoring. They know what that is.

The ball goes into the net or somebody crossed the end zone, they know what that is. The ball goes into the net or somebody crossed the end zone. They know what that is. That's universal. Yeah, yeah. I don't know who it was. I don't know who it was. Got Taylor Swift. Taylor Swift said, yes, yes! We winning.

Who is we? I don't know, but somebody scored right here. Everybody else standing up. I'm standing up too. That's what we're gonna have so the tush push stays at least for another year and tory visit reiterates that something has to happen with the hip drop tackle so i'm not gonna be surprised if they have if that's gonna be a penalty and you could imagine a fine that's coming with that that's gonna be a 30 even a first defense fine oh you're gonna probably be somewhere around 30 it's 30 000 yeah most definitely obviously it's 15 yards if you if you have to hit hip if you have to execute the hip drop tackle to make a play but also i think the fine i i think it'll start off at 5 000 oh no i think it'll start off at 5 000 no you don't think? Because the horse collar tackle is about

$25,000. What's the flag? Can we look that up right quick, Ash? Damn. Oh, yeah. I'm going to help Ash look it up, too. Oh, no, no, no. Hell no. Hold on. $25,000, $30,000 for a first offense? Yeah.

Shit, I'm going to have to peel that. I'm going to have to peel that. We need to work something out. What, you got an apple or orange? Because that's the only thing you're going to peel. You ain't going to get that five. Hey, I give them a check post-date. Don't cash it yet. 16 throughout 16 304 first offense

okay okay okay i mean with the money they making today that's not bad i'm stuck in my time that's why i'm still thinking first offense is gonna be five thousand hell nah yeah they they didn't went up they didn't went up yeah it ain't no hell no joe i mean bro when you i'll be what you thought uh bro you've been retired a decade you keep you you keep telling that the cost of living the cost of living keep increasing yeah keep increasing right right right oh so so so does define money okay okay that's why i said it. But the money they make in a day. Okay, you're right. You're right.

You're right. Hey, the fact that, boy, I've been retired a whole decade. What? You didn't. It don't even feel like it. So did you play in 2013? You've been gone a decade at least, right? God damn.

Because you came in in 2001. You say you played. Yeah, I came in. I came in in 2000. You say you played. Yeah, I came in in 2000. You came in 2000? Yeah. Yeah. What was your last year in the league?

Shoot. 2011. Which one? Because I played in Canada and I played in Mexico. 2011 was your last year. So, yeah, you've been gone a decade. Yes. Golly, man. You know what's funny? Yeah, more than a decade. Yeah, 2011 was your last year. So, yeah, you've been gone a decade. Yes. Golly, man.

And you know what's funny? Yeah, more than a decade. Yeah, 2011 with your last year. So, you've been gone by 13 years, bro. Because I've been gone two decades. Damn. And you know what's funny about that? I've been gone for a decade,

and I can still play. Madden? No, I ain't talking about Madden. Like, I can still go out there and play right now because i'm in such elite shape still because i just never know when that call might come i never know i i stay ready because if you stay ready you ain't got to get ready shapes pear eggs those are shapes uh-huh you ain't taking this and i'm just telling you your spidey senses don't tingle anymore because they've been down too long.

No, they ain't been down because I've been doing other things to keep them things intact. My spidey senses is on point. When was the last time you played a football game? Oh, two days ago. 2011. Oh, no. I play rugby. That's a different type.

The spidey sense, hey, that's a different type of. Hold on. You just told our chat early in the season, you get in shape for football by playing football. Now you say you sharpen your senses doing other things. Right. Yeah. Listen, stay with me now. There's a way to work on all your senses without actually having to play the game.

There are other things that can substitute and keep your spidey senses intact. That's something that I've always done. Just in case. Listen, I would never play football again, but I'm just saying in general, I do other things that give me that same adrenaline rush, that same unknown, the same butterflies. A roller coaster. I find it in other sports. Ride a roller coaster. rush, that same unknown, the same butterflies. A roller coaster. It's called riding a roller coaster. Yeah, that's my life.

You took the words right out of my mouth. A roller coaster. Boxing. Playing tennis. Like doing things, but at somewhat of a high level. As high as I can get. And it keep my senses going. How do you heighten your sense of taste without tasting? and analysis delivered straight to your podcast feed by the time you get your coffee.

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or wherever you get your podcast. how do you oh i oh i'll be i'll be tasting i know you be tasting and you know you said salty well it depends it depends if she's showing up we we move it on we ain't even talking about that you know oh okay okay now ain't nothing wrong with a little tart now, you know. Little tart, little twang to it. But go ahead, go ahead. See, I already know, but before rail came along, you know. You was in there talking about, damn, girl, this thing tastes like latex.

Oh! Man, don't you ever, see, you got me, let me put my my let me put my hair back on man let me put my hair let me put my hair back on and move this conversation along man my bad my bad my bad my bad my bad jaylen johnson says caleb williams can't bring the hollywood stuff let's take a listen to the sound what Jalen told Kay Adams. Honestly, I feel like you just humble yourself coming in the building. I feel like it's one of those things where it's like you can't, like you said,

you can't bring that Hollywood stuff into the building, especially now with guys who play this game. I feel like at a high level for consecutive years in the league, it's just something that guys like myself, guys like Jermaine, TJ, I mean, just the vets now, Keenan Allen, allen i mean you just adding certain guys in the locker room i feel like you we're gonna we're gonna see through and it's like nah that what you did in college the hollywood it's like nah that that you gotta prove yourself come on jaylen i mean look come on jaylen you can't stereotype the man because he went to USC, baby.

I mean, you got the you got the Jalen. You got to know. You got to know Caleb Williams personally before you make the assumption that he is Hollywood. I understand that's where he played. He played at USC. But he's given me no reason to think that he's coming to the NFL with his old Hollywood approach. You know, but I don't I don't think it's a slight on Caleb Williams. I understand what Jalen Johnson is talking about. Just coming in, being yourself, you know, and just, just playing ball, doing what you did at USC, but at the highest level, I just, Jalen, you got to get, get a man to change. Get a man to change, let him come in. That's, that's, that's your quarterback. That's, that's your leader, you know? So, I mean, I don't think we're trying to be rude or be mean because i don't think he knows caleb williams personally to make that assumption that he's hollywood based off the school he went to what's understood doesn't need to be spoken

we understand everyone you come in and have to earn his stripes we didn't say anything but you had a better believe if you won an award we want to see why you won that award be a buck oh yeah be it the heisman be it the thorpe be it the mackie it didn't matter we needed to see when we got the camp and we put those fans on why he won that award there was nothing there's nothing need to be said what's understood doesn't need to be said so i think caleb we i don't like i said i don't know caleb i know who he is uh i don't know him from a can of paint but i think he comes in there with the right attitude showing that okay yes i'm a rookie i'm gonna have to earn being number one that don't make you the leader now

you're gonna have to commit because you're gonna have to convince a lot of those guys that have been in the league five years seven seven years, eight years, nine years, ten years, that you can lead them. That's what you're going to have to convince. That's why it's so important for the quarterback to be because he's the guy that you're going to be asking to lead your offense. Man, and a lot of times the quarterback, for the most part, is probably one of the youngest, especially in today's time.

Because we ain't got no 13-, 14-year quarterbacks in the league. Not many. Not many. Right. And so I get what Jalen Johnson is saying, but I agree with you. You got to give the man the benefit of the doubt until he shows you otherwise. Then you can say, hey, bro, pull him to the side and say, hey, bro.

Hey, hey, that there in hollywood that what you do it and what you did at usc yeah that ain't gonna cut it yeah yeah you know the funny thing about it is even when you say what he did at usc i have seen nothing that would say you know what god damn man his mannerism the way he act oh man he hollywood Hollywood. All I can base stuff off of is what the fuck I saw on film. And if I were Jalen Johnson, hell, if I was goddamn Keenan Allen or a receiver on that goddamn team, oh, man, I'm hyped because I understand what I got at the helm that's getting ready to lead us. Oh, man. And listen, Buddy is the real deal. We talk about an immense talent we talk about a generational talent if if the bears organization do what they need to

do to make sure they don't fail this young kid like they've done the rest of the quarterbacks that have come through that organization i think the thing is is that you look and it's being reported that his last two years at usc he made north of 10 million dollars in nil right he got you know why because he's that boy yes and so you look like oh bro you drive around hollywood and you got a lambo or ferrari and you know you got all these deals bro don't come in here with that because you start from scratch okay because what we ask you gotta do whatever whatever check mark you had at college we're gonna leave that there yeah yeah started yeah you start from you start you start new yeah that's okay that's supposedly how we do in a relationship right oh no matter what

yeah whatever whatever she heard about you whatever you heard about her yeah we decided to come together we started a new yeah that was a new me new year new me every time then i then i told i told real hey listen put a bandaid on when you come to me you better come here yeah yeah come to me come come here honey i ain't got time to play but listen goddamn listen chat y'all excuse me what i'm about to say i have a feeling based on the talent that caleb williams is that he can have the same based on the talent that Caleb Williams is, that he can have the same effect on the Bears organization, the city of Chicago,

the same way Patrick Holmes had on the Kansas City Chiefs, if they do right by him in building around that young fella, man. He's different. He's a phenomenal talent. a phenomenal he's a come here come here he's a phenomenal talent look at look at it listen look at my look at my caleb williams i'm doing a no makeup challenge let rail sit down right quick i'm taking overnight care what's going on what's good rail how you feeling today i'm feeling amazing they say uh the chat say they are we need you to we need you to have you on a couple of times a week sitting in

I'm ready you just gotta send me my notes so I can be prepared I'm gonna let chat take over today but you know I can't embarrass myself because I hurt my baby what made you decide that you wanted to go makeup free for the next several days or for weeks or however long you want to do this challenge

honestly I'm joking I just did it because Carisha up free for the next several days or for weeks or however long you want to do this challenge? Honestly, I'm joking. I just did it because Carisha has a song that's coming out. No makeup, no filter challenge. You're pretty with no makeup. So I just did it on TikTok and she just reposted it.

But I feel I hate wearing makeup. Oh, do you? Hey, P. Diddy, get out of this. I feel I hate wearing makeup oh do you hey P. Diddy get out of this get real moment I feel like makeup at 10 years old see I look

you know I look good don't be no hater don't be hating he over here hating he trying to take away my shine what he saying you need makeup no he didn't say that but he's just hating He over here hating, he trying to take away my shine. What he saying, you need makeup? No, he didn't say that, but he's just saying.

Ocho, get your hand off your hips. Man, get your hand off your hips, get out of the camera, man. It's a real moment. Let the champagne rail shine. Man, who you paying? You paying me or her, man? Come on, man. We about to break cut rail a check, too. That's right.

But I'm serious. Makeup, it just, it does too much. Put it on, take it off. And men don't like women with a lot of makeup. Not a whole lot of it, but some of them put too much on, though, real. I mean, some of them... And I have breakfast. Yeah, some of them have it like you spread it

on, but they use the butter knife to put that makeup on. I mean, that's too much. I mean, some of them, they... And I have breakfast. Yeah, some of them have it like you spread that on, but they use the butter knife to put that makeup on. I mean, that's too much. I mean, you know, it was kind of like when you were in high school or college and you kissed a girl and the whole side of your face was like... Or when you hug and rub off on your clothes. Yeah, man. Oh, you playing for this dry cleaning. All right. It's good talking to you all. Hey, Chad you playing for this dry cleaning? All right.

It's good talking to you. All right, Real. I love y'all. All right. Oh, man. Yeah. Damn. Man, you got her stealing my shine and taking my show, man. It's bad enough. Everywhere I go in public now, they talk about,

hey, boy, ain't you dude that date real? I'm like, come on, man. Stop trying me we got we got to say listen we got to simmer down on that man we got to simmer down she can't be like it's like like it's like nah but i'm just saying they be embarrassed i mean like in public they be disrespecting me like ain't you do what you mean man you know my name chad man what you mean ain't you the dude come on man Chad. Man, what you mean? Ain't you the dude, Dave Real? You Mr. Rosado. Come on, man. You Mr. Rosado. Yeah, come on, man. We got to slow down.

No more, no more. She ain't coming on this shit no more. Fuck that. We're going to send Real a camera. Real going to be in another room. While you in one room, Real in the other. Pop up on the screen.

Nah, because now she getting a little bit more attention than I am, and now it's putting me on the back burner. You okay, Real? Hold up. Ocho, don't you want your woman to shine yeah i want her to shine but how her light gonna be brighter than mine what it is i'm i'm supposed to be leading i'm supposed to be leading how i'm gonna lead if she's right now you're in eclipse right now i mean dark you is you know that's all that is man so check this out uh ocho yeah russell wilson released a new workout video new team new workout yeah russ from russ yeah this one showed him working on his footwork while

wearing sunglasses which led to a lot of jokes from the nfl fans james winston also posted a video of him taking snaps on the center in a full suit. Ocho, why do guys feel they need to post their videos, their workout videos? Ain't nothing wrong with that. I like it. I like the fact that he's posting his workouts, letting people know he's locked in and staying on top of what he needs to do. Technique, basic fundamentals, dropping back, pocket moving, pocket presence, throwing the ball, staying on point.

So when he does get to camp, I'm sure Russell Wilson is going to hit the all-season program. He's going to hit the all-season program running, letting the boys know, listen, I'm coming here to lead us to you know where to make sure we're in contention. I like that they're posting this to let people know what he's doing. Are you doing it for people or are you doing it for you? Well, listen, it's the same thing. When I was playing, I didn't have access to social media, but I uploaded videos to YouTube of myself working,

A.B. Santana Moss, Andre Johnson, like all stuff you can see. So this is what they do today in today's era of this, you know, during the social media era. You know, you upload some of the stuff you're doing. It lets people into your life outside of the game of football. You don't like it? No. I mean, to each his own. I mean people into your life outside of the game of football. You don't like it? No.

I mean, to each his own. I mean, like you said, this is where we are now, Ocho. Guys uploading a lot of their workout stuff. I don't really have a problem with it. Hey, look at Jameis. Look at Jameis. Okay, so what's this, Ocho? Hey, Jameis working on his snap. Hey, but he in a full trench coat. Hey, Jameis

dressed like Columbo. Jameis dressed like Columbo. Hey, listen, I love dude, man. You know, I wonder if Jameis understand or does he even realize how unintentionally funny he is. I don't know. He's funny without even trying to be funny.

I mean oh man come on with this right here you know the kind of reaction that you were going to get yeah it'll be like you out there catching footballs in a tuxedo you know the reaction that you're going to get so to say

I ain't know you knew yeah I mean it's a good one it's nothing bad you know he just just getting a feel for the pigskin you know it's it's been it's been a long time he just signed with the browns you know let me let me touch it a little bit let me touch it a little bit you know get that snapping i mean that is how many snaps you're gonna take it how many snaps you're gonna take in a top coat none none but i i would hate for him to have to put on some browns gear just to take one snap.

You know, ain't nothing wrong with that. What about shorts and t-shirts? It's like you right. But he was there to sign his contract, so he ain't going to be in shorts and t-shirts. Oh, so he's there to sign his contract. Somehow he found a center in the weight room and said, hey, let your boy get some snaps. Yeah, yeah. Listen, I guarantee you that was the first time him and the center met. And the center might have been out working on some snaps and say, man, let me snap one thing for you real quick.

Let me get a feel for how it's going to be. Ain't nothing wrong with that. It's just different now, Ocho. I just think, sometimes I think guys it's more for, for, for, for show then. Yeah. I mean, ain't nothing wrong with it. I see you, you are a little bit more closed off in general with your personal life and your public life so i think you're one who really doesn't see the reason for posting any and everything and i i kind of like it like i want to see what the receivers are doing in the offseason justin jefferson chase the db sauce garden all them

boys i want to see videos because hell, I'm going to be joining them in the offseason to train. Somebody tweeted, I love you, Kyle, but running... Somebody tweeted about four hours ago, I love you, Kyle, but running and throwing in shorts or catching passes is pointless when the

only thing that matters is what you put on film. Everybody looks good in shorts on air against no competition. Right, that was me. That was me. So how the hell? Whoa, whoa, whoa. That was about Marvin Harrison Jr. working out at a pro day

in front of NFL scouts when the NFL scouts have three years worth of footage of him at Ohio State where it makes no sense what he has to do. Russell Wilson throwing. Did you have a pro day? Stay with me now. Let me finish. Did you have a pro day?

I wasn't Marvin Harrison Jr. coming out either. I'm just asking you a question. Yes, I had a pro day. I was also a one for one. So I had no choice but to show up for the pro day. What do you mean you were one for one? I was only on the Division I level for one. So I had no choice, but to show up for one. I only, I only,

I was on a division one level for one year. You forgot, you forgot the road. I mean, they saw you in Santa Monica. No, they ain't see me, but I want nobody there.

I mean, I want to listen. I made my grand entrance at Oregon state. I got there and I got there in August and I was going to December four months. That's, that's all I had. My back was against the wall.

So I had no choice but to go and do what I need to do in front of you folks and let them know, listen, I might've bounced around from school to school. I might've got thrown out from school to school. My grades might not have been what they should to be at a four-year institution. But there's one thing I can do. I can play some motherfucking ball. I can play some ball. So I had to showcase that. When it comes to Marvin Harrison Jr., there is nothing that he has to showcase on his pro day or at the NFL

combine because there's enough film, which is the only thing that matters, not what he does in goddamn shorts and shirt. I think the thing if they'd have had classroom on the football field, you might have been good. So they should have had about 50 chairs on the football field. I think you could. Oh So they should have had about 50 chairs in the class on the football field. I think. Yeah. Oh, listen, when I listen, when I when I was in school, I was I was brilliant.

I was a 4.0 student. The problem was you couldn't get me to go to class because I was worried about playing football. That was my issue. My grandma always told me, boy, listen, listen, stop focusing on football and get your goddamn education. Because if football doesn't work out, you got to have something to fall back on. And what you think my hard head, my hard head ass did? Yeah. Focus, focus on football. Focus on football. Focus on football.

Focus on football. Get in trouble. Fighting here. Fight. I'm at Langston University. For one, Langston University, I get thrown off for fighting. Rest in peace to Dr. Ernest Holloway I come back to my grandma

my grandma like man listen baby I've done all I can with you I'm tired of talking I'm tired I wash my hands she shipped me to my mama in LA first time living with my mama obviously

1997 I enrolled at Santa Monica Junior College first thing I'm focused on football yeah ask me how many classes i went to um well when you say ask me that means none bet listen barely showed up because i'm out there practicing i'm doing i'm working out i'm doing all the stuff i'm i'm doing everything i'm supposed to be doing except go to goddamn class shit night come 1998 i'm ineligible boom i got summer classes i go to all kind of classes to make sure i'm eligible to play in 1999 mind you that's that's this is three years down now so my fourth year of eligibility is

goddamn uh which which yeah oregon state so i i obviously i got myself eligible to play in uh in 90 98 no 99 and that one for one at oregon state dennis erickson i never forget thank you denny if you see this he gave me a shot you know they don't pass out no uh give nobody no full scholarship for no one year man he gave me a shot man i went to oregon state and showed the f out and i ain't looked back since so when it went to Oregon State and showed the F out, and I ain't looked back since. So when it comes to the combine and having to perform in front of people in those shorts and shirts that we're talking about,

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I'm going to be here four years. Nobody was going early. I think my year was the first year that guys started, like, really leaving early. You know, Emmitt and Lamar Latham. We had several guys that left early. I mean, they were, you know, high draft picks. But for the most part, you stayed four years. And I didn't want to be one of those guys that I was further away from graduation

when I left after four years than what I was when I got there four years earlier. So I was like, hey, I'm going to get this degree because people didn't think I could do it. A lot of people didn't think I could do it. I know I could do it. I just needed to apply myself. I bulljabbed around. You know what I'm saying? I wanted to be the class clown. I wanted to be funny. And plus, I was a superior athlete to everyone else.

I was like, hey, somebody going to give me an opportunity. It might not be where I want to go, but somebody going to give me a chance. It might not be where I want to go, but somebody's going to give me a chance because the football skill, the basketball skill, the track skill is too great for somebody to say, nah, he can't do nothing for our university. So it was the Battle State, Coach Davis, Bill Davis, rest his soul. He's like, son, I'm going to be honest with you. If I was drafted and I had the number one pick of all the kids

that's coming out of college, and i had the number one pick of all the kids that's coming out of college i'll take you number one and i like that i like that i was gone he could come in the house though you know we had that car that we had uh we had that car we had that conversation in the driveway because when i told him i was gonna sign with him um obviously you know it was like it was like like three weeks old show before we had to go to camp. So I was just sitting around like, okay. I'm like, man, I'm going to go to the Air Force. My brother called me.

He came down, talked to me, said, does Savannah State still have that scholarship for you? I said, yeah, Coach Davis said anytime I need it. If I wanted a scholarship, he would take me. He said, well, call Coach Davis and tell him you're coming. Go for a year. And if you don't like like it say i went for a year football you know college it wasn't for me i called coach davis it had to be like 9 30 that night i said coach i want to come to savannah state he said all right oh god dang i'm gonna put my clothes on i'm coming down i said nah coach i'm good he said hell nah son somebody else gonna come down there and sign you

from under me i said coach right i give you my word i'm gonna sign with savannah state man coach you got my house by eight o'clock in the morning i had went out i had uh uh went out the night before ocho and i had some money in my pocket i was like damn i done lost my money come to find out the money was in the yard wait hold on how much how much you had? $48, $50. But you know that's a lot of money back in 1986. Oh, yeah. Especially in my circumstances. So, Coach Davis came. He said, son, I appreciate this.

I'm going to take care of you. My grandma never came out the house. He just ate. And that's kind of how she handled it, Ocho. Stuff like that that i remember what i got when uh my homeboy ricky thomas he went to the same school he was my quarterback in high school he went to the same school that i went that he went to savannah state and i remember he blew

the horn that uh that august was heading down there my grandmother was in the bed my grandma ain't never get up ain't never got out of the bed she ain't because she felt she hadn't done all she could in 18 years giving me another five ten minutes speech before i walked out the door she said it wasn't gonna do no good now no good that's a good one i walked out the house i left i left as a boy remember look back at that remember looking back at that house? Yeah. I knew what I was leaving behind. And I knew what the mission was. Ocho, when I got in that car,

it's just like, okay, go get it done now. Go get it done. So you was locked in. It took me to understand what the mission was after I hit my goddamn head and failed multiple times at langston uh first year at santa monica got myself together the following year where i was ineligible i had to get my grades right then it hit me like hey man

boy that window of opportunity is about this big either you get it done now or the chances in your childhood dreams are down the drain. And I locked in and I did it my grandma way for the first time. And the first time I actually listen to what she had to say, listen to what she had to say. Look what the hell happened. Oh, Joe, I tell my kids all the time. I say sometimes you have to bump your own head to realize how much it hurts. See, me telling you I did something similar and bumped my head, you didn't feel it. So sometimes my grandmother said, boy, sometimes you got to bump your own head because we can do all we can to protect them.

Give them they have access to things we never had access to. Yeah. But at the end of the day, they're going to have to fall down and skin their own knees. You got stuff on your shins, your knees from falling down as a child. Things that we try to protect our own kids from. So think about it, Ocho, what you try to do.

You try to protect your kids from all of that. Blow it in. It's going to be okay. Don't cry. Yeah. My grandma You try to protect your kids from all of that. Blow it in. It's going to be okay. Don't cry. Babes. Yeah. My grandma ain't never said that one time. Okay, it's going to be okay. But my grandma ain't blow nothing.

Put some alcohol on it. So now I'm screaming. You don't see nothing but white meat. And she pouring alcohol on it. I'm like, what? Ooh. So that was the thing. And so. So, and that, that, that was the thing.

And so for me, Ocho, I didn't want to let her down because she had done everything that she possibly could to raise her nine and my mom's three. And so I knew when she didn't get up out of that bed and say, son, now remember, don't drink.

So instead, don't get out, go out late, son, iron your clothes in the morning, son, be respectful. I knew

when she didn't give me that speech because she had been giving me that speech for 18 years. She said, man, 10 more minutes ain't gonna do nothing for you. Either he got it or he don't. He don't. Yeah. I walked out of that house. I was different. I was never the same. I was

never the same, Ocho, when I left that house. I was a different person and I remember my brother my brother was like he could see it my sister would tell you I was a different person I wasn't the same I was never that same person

that left Rock 4 Box 385 on that August day in 1986 even when I came back a month or two later when we had a bye week, I wasn't the same. I was, there was a focus. Oh,

Joe, there was a focus. And I couldn't believe because now I go from showering morning, night, you know, practice. I was shy before I go to practice. I was shy after practice.

I was shy because, you know, we practiced twice a day. So I'm going three showers a day, going to the bathroom inside. I come home. Guess what?, we practiced twice a day. So I'm going three showers a day, going to the bathroom inside. I come home. Guess what? Got to wash in a tub.

Got to go back to, you know, got to go back to the woods to go to the bathroom again. Bathroom. Yeah. Yeah. And now I'm thinking to myself, how many of my teammates have ever had to go to the bathroom in the woods? Ocho. Yeah. I'm 18.

Ocho. I'm 19. Ocho. I'm 18. Ocho, I'm 19. Ocho, I'm 20 years old going to the bathroom in the woods. I'm still taking a shower in a foot tub, warming the water up. I mean, when I would work, we put water in a number two wash tub. I don't know if anybody from the country, you can Google it, look up a number two wash tub. i would put water in the wash tub when i was working so i come home at noon we got an hour to eat i would put water in the wash tub and leave it in the sun so the sun would heat it up so that's my warm water when i come on when i get off work

to take a bath in so i'm taking a bath in a foot in a wash tub yeah yeah i'm drawing water. So we're drawing water out of a well. We got a well, Ocho. I'm talking about this 1986, 1987, 1988, 1988. My brother went for an 88. So I'm drawing water. We drinking water from a well. I'm drawing my water to putting the sundae out of a spigot

to take a bath in. Now, many times, my brother would take a bath first. We used that same water. I would take a bath first and use that same water. So, I remember going home after being at Savannah State and showering

three times a day. Going to the bathroom anytime I want to and not have to worry about grabbing bug spray to spray around me because the mosquitoes tear me up. or it's cold at night and i got a big old jacket on and i'm out there in the woods going to the bathroom i mean i say this ain't for me listen you know you know it's funny you got you got you got people at times that come from different circumstances but i think your focus was a little bit different because of you you

coming from humble beginnings obviously your grandma and and what she instilled in you you know throughout your tenure as an adolescent but then when you get to somewhere like savannah state you have an appreciation for the atmosphere and the amenities that you never really had before so your focus was just different yeah because of the access that you had once you got to college and you know you weren't you weren't going back to that you weren't going back so it made it even that much easier for you to focus as opposed to somebody that comes from a silver spoon in their mouth oh absolutely and they wouldn't really appreciate being away from home and college because it's something that you've always got throughout your whole life.

Oh, yeah. Oh, and I remember Ocho and all my I think I had one friend, Stacy, my homeboy, his birthday. Mine is the 26th of June. He is the 27th. He was the only person that's ever been inside my house. That was a friend because we didn't have no indoor plumbing. We didn't have no running water. So if somebody had to go use the bathroom, you you know you'd have to tell them a lie well you know the toilet broke you're gonna have to go outside so bad so for me ocho that was i couldn't i couldn't see myself my sister's age my grandmother's age having to go to the woods to continue to go to the bathroom. My grandma, my grandma, you know,

in our forties, in our fifties, hello granny. And so that was 86. Granny was born in 23. So, you know, nah,

nah, nah, nah, nah, nah. That wasn't, that wasn't gonna work for me. That wasn't gonna work for me.

Oh, Joe. And eating what we ate, you know, Oh, see, I remember, see, and work for me, Ocho. And eating what we ate, you know, see, and people are going to say, you're lying. Ask my brother. I remember we had a, I grew up on a farm.

So my grandfather would go get from go to the grocery stores and you know, the rotten fruit, it got a rotten spot on it. They throw in that all the bananas they got that's partially rotten. They throw that in the thing. my grandfather thought it thought it thought away yes yes oh nah let me get let me get them let me get it so man let me get down you don't know ocho so we had hogs so my grandfather was getting the cabbage and the stuff all the uh the produce

for the hogs right i jump in them i jump in the needy mud. See, when people say needy, you know, I'll be the needy with them. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm with you. That's where the term comes from. I'm with you. I'll be the needy. I say, hogs, you're not going to get these apples. You're not going to get these grapes.

But I go there and get apples, get grapes, get bananas, cut the brown spot off and eat it. Wash it off. Eat it, yeah. Yeah. So that was my thought process i said lord if i'm fortunate enough and i have kids my kids couldn't live like this i say my kids ain't built like i'm built they can't live they couldn't stay in one hour let alone a day or a month or a year in my life.

So, I mean, that's the whole point. When you do have kids, you always want to make life easier for them so they don't have to go through the things you went through. Because I don't think the kids in our era would be able to survive in the past. And based on what we had to go through, it's different. It's different.

So many different rules are inclined to appease them as opposed to one small rule being either being able to discipline your child you can't even do that anymore you can't you can't oh joe you can't man listen it was a day it was a time oh i know you i don't i'm not sure how it was for you from but i know where i'm from now if your parents if your mama if your your parents ain't home, my grandma, my granddaddy wasn't there and I messed up and I did. Somebody had no business. All the neighbors had the right to beat my ass. Oh yeah.

And then when they get home and the neighbors tell my grandma, my granddaddy what I did, I get my ass beat again. You had community ass whippers. Oh yeah. Cause it took a village. That was my grandma favorite. I get my ass beat again. You have community ass whippings. Oh, yeah. Because it took a village. That was my grandma's favorite line. It takes a village. And we're going to make sure if you mess up,

I want y'all to make sure y'all beat his ass. And when he get to me, I'm going to beat him again. That's exactly how it was, Ocho. There was a respect level for all the people, all the adults in the community. All that sassing and talking back. You don't tell me what to do. I don't remember. Talk back to who? Oh, you're not and talking back you don't tell me what to do uh i don't remember talk back to oh oh you're not my mama you don't tell me what to do man they tear you up and say boy hey mary you know i had to cut that boy tail he was up there sassing he was doing this listen do you see some of them clips with them kids talking back i would

have never made you already know what I'm talking about. Talking back, talking back to their mama. Talk about their grandma. I don't feel like it. Man, please. I don't want to get off the game. Man, shit.

Man. You can be in there watching TV, Ocho. My grandma say, hey, y'all get outside and play. We're watching TV. Shh. Hey. play we watch the TV hey it was no hey hey hey hot out there I remember we should like try to play basketball and we played basketball this summer whoo boy it's too hot y'all gonna have

a stroke come out there soon as the man come back for the truck to go in the field all right boy he here yeah if it's too hard to play basketball man come back from the truck to go in the field, all right, boy, he here. If it's too hot to play basketball, but it's not too hot to work in the fields. I'm looking at Spanky, Spanky looking at me. That's my brother. We're looking at our cousin. Now, you just told us it's too hot to play basketball, but it ain't too hot to go

in that 100-degree. We hit the back of that pickup truck, you know, dragging our feet. I don't know you to have, but we dragging our feet on the road. All right, boys, y'all be careful. But Ocho, those were the times, though. Hard times make tough men. Tough men make weak kids.

Now, people in the chat, you'll understand what I'm talking about. Now, people in the chat, you'll understand what I'm talking about. Ocho, the Dodgers fired Shohei Ohtani's interpreter over claims of massive theft. Shohei Ohtani's interpreter, I'm not going to try to say his name, has been accused of stealing $4.5 million from Ohtani to pay down gambling debts from a California bookie who, here it is, the wire transfer came to light because the FBI was investigating a man named Matthew Bauer for running an illicit bookmaking scheme and Ohtani's name surfaced in the investigation.

Two $500,000 payments had been wired directly from Shohei Ohtani's bank account to Boyer. The Dodgers immediately fired Muzerahi, the interpreter. But it doesn't add up. Ohtani's team permitted the interpreter to sit for a 90-minute interview Tuesday night. The interpreter told ESPN that he started placing bets on credit with Boyer after meeting him at a San Diego poker game in 2021.

Got big poker games going on out here. I stay away from there. After agreeing to cover his losses, Ohtani thought the interpreter still might gamble money away, so he logged into the computer and sent it to Boyer himself, according to Mizrahi. Their close relationship had once been described as a brotherhood. It was only after the interpreter interview

that Otani's representative changed their tune. Now the claim was that he was a victim, that Otani was a victim of massive theft at the hands of the interpreter and that he never tried to cover the gambling losses. It doesn't add up. It's not adding up, Ocho. Otani's

claim makes a little bit more sense so i'm confused okay i'm confused so is it theft on behalf of the interpreter and stealing money or is it ohtani one that likes to gamble as well because if ohtani likes to gamble and we talk about baseball we already know how they strike with an iron fist when it comes to gambling and baseball. What happened was what I believe happened because the, the interpreter and Otani has a very tight relationship. It's described as a brotherhood.

The interpreter has a gambling problem. Oh, okay. What's the likelihood of the interpreter having access directly to Shohei Zotani's account? Yeah, I don't think that would really happen. That's not very likely. Money was coming directly from Shohei

Zotani's account to cover the gambling debt. Now, this illicit gambling ring is under federal investigation. So now, ding, ding, ding, ding, show hell, Tony. How many of them show hell, Tony, you think

in the United States? Just one. And it's that one that's not currently on the dodge. So now hold on. How is this tied to what's really going on? See, it makes no sense to see what happened was I believe he was covering for his they're so close

to like brothers because he's been his interpreter he's covering the debt it's a bad look because it makes it seem like shohei knew and was covering the debt so now what's once it comes to light no he was stealing money because we got to clear shohei ah okay okay okay okay. Okay. Okay. Wait, hold on. Now, what are we betting on? I know we're not betting on baseball. No, I don't think, I don't think he's taking the baseball. I think he's probably betting on football, probably basketball, whatever the case may be. So I don't know. But, but, but still in general, now this is something you're going to have to educate me on because I don't know much about it. Now, as an active baseball player, are you allowed to bet on other things outside of baseball?

Or is that still frowned upon in the baseball world? I'm not sure. Yeah, I'm not sure. I don't know. Golf can bet on themselves. The golfer, like Tiger, could bet on himself, I bet a million dollars that I'm going to win the Masters. Right. But a football player, because there's so things there's there's a lot of moving parts

and because the money is so substantial now that's what i couldn't understand with calvin really that's why i couldn't understand what some of those lions player bro right you trying to win 500 and you make a little million you're selling your money you're selling hundreds for fives right right it made no sense now with somebody back in the that late like the uh the uh the black sock scandal when they gonna give you okay they give you a thousand dollars and you make it 200 now okay okay that makes a little sense or boxes right we thought they would fix the fight but in today's game why would a guy making 30 million fix a game 50 million right it ruined everything yeah so it made no sense what makes sense is that the interpreter

had a problem he got in over his head and so remember i told you i lose a hand i double the next hand lose that hand now you see how you can get it in the hole so ever ever if you gambling hey you lost fifty thousand or a hundred thousand hey double it and i want to pay this this this this and this and so that hundred thousand now all of a sudden if you don't win you're down eight hundred thousand shit because boy boy but i i hope obviously antonio is i mean and shea hate show me show god damn it shohei otani is a crazy talent obviously i don't even watch baseball but continuously seeing him on the news for what he's doing obviously watching him on espn i've come to learn about him through there, understanding how great he is

as a pitcher, as a slugger. And I hope, I hope everything goes in his favor. Uh, I'm not sure about the rules as far as him being an active baseball player and betting on other sports. I'm not sure if that is frowned upon in the baseball world, but we will find out. in the baseball world, but we will find out. I don't know. I'm someone that's wired large sums of money. And even when they're going to call me, Mr. Sharp, X came and wants to wire this sum of money.

Do we have your permission? Yes. So they're not just going to be wiring $500,000 from that account. Without making. Without showing. Without just. Oh, okay. Okay. Okay.

Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. I see where you're going with it now. The volume.

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