Club Shay Shay - Nightcap - Hour 1: Nico Harrison on Luka trade, Mavs Blowout Kings, Nikola Jokic average triple-double for season

Episode Date: April 18, 2025

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson recap the best hoops stories of the week, including Nico Harrison having no regrets trading Luka, the Mavs dominating the Kings, Nikola Jokić b...ecoming the 3rd NBA player to average a triple-double for a season, & much more!04:45 - Warriors, Rockets in Playoff Showdown!10:00 - Mavs domination over Kings22:35 - Nico Harrison on trade28:44 - Suns fire Budenholzer42:23 - Ice Cube joins the show to talk hoops54:18 - Nikola Jokic average triple-double for season(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:03:15 The seven seed warriors are favored over the Rockets to win the series per Draft King. The Warriors are minus 190. The Rockets are plus 155. Are the Warriors a lot to beat the Rockets? I'm not sure if they're a lot. Now we're going off experience then obviously you know they got Houston on that. Houston got youth on their side and they got to use their advantage man. They got to make them guys work but you know when you got guys like Jimmy Butler and Draymond Green and obviously you know Steph Curry it's gonna Jimmy Bullen, Draymond Green and obviously you know Steph Curry, it's gonna be tough to beat them man.
Starting point is 00:03:48 They got them role players around them playing great basketball so it's gonna be that's gonna be an interesting series. A lot of series I'm looking forward to and then Rockets and Golden State is gonna be one for the ages. But the thing that concerned me about the Rockets, who's your go-to guy? Right. They haven't been, they haven't been in this. The Warriors have been in these situations.
Starting point is 00:04:13 Steph know what it's like to play championship basketball, to get ready to win a title. Draymond has been there. He knows what it's like. Jimmy Butler hadn't won, but he's taking team to the NBA finals. He knows what it's like, and they're role players. Now, I don't know what's going on with it. Kamingo didn't really play. Moody got the assignment.
Starting point is 00:04:30 So it's going to be very, very interesting because you play with a team that understands what these moments are about and what they're like versus a team that's extremely athletic. Excuse me, Smith, and you got Dillon Brooks, and you got Jalen Green, you got Dillon Brooks and you got Jalen Green. You got Van Fleet, you got Al Sangoon. He's real. Yeah, yeah. Ray Mar is gonna have his hands down with him now. And them boys playing, them Rockies,
Starting point is 00:04:55 they playing hard, man. You know, in the edulca, he edulca. He gonna have him ready now. They ain't gonna be scared of nothing. No, they gonna come out and compete. And you know, I think the fact, I think the fact that they are young Joe is why you can't have them as a law. They play on both ends of the court.
Starting point is 00:05:12 And I think the pressure for them, especially when you're that young, you just out there playing basketball. You just out there playing basketball. You just out there having fun and doing what you need to do. And I think they have the warriors to win, obviously not only because of the staff, but because of the experience
Starting point is 00:05:25 They've already been there before but it's gonna be a good series a very very good They got a they got a host it's going to seven to nine they but Joe they got a sore. They got a whole serve at home Yeah, tell me about the Rockets The Rockets got a whole sir. They do they do Because that's gonna be the confidence booster if you can win the first two games at home and then I have to travel to you know go to state to uh, you know to try to get a win but Man, I just like the young Rockets team. They play hard to fearless and you know
Starting point is 00:05:59 They know what it's like to play the Warriors and because they played them pretty well this year Yeah, hey, hey Joe on if they if they come out of gate is like to play the Warriors and because they played them pretty well this year. Yep. Hey, hey Joe, if they, if they come out of the gate in general and when the first two games at home, well, it can get spooky. It can get spooky. One thing, the one thing about the Warriors, the Warriors won't panic because they've been here. I remember a couple of years ago, they went down to Sacramento and they had to
Starting point is 00:06:25 go to Sacramento and win game seven. And Steph Curry had one of the great all time performances. He dropped 50 on them in a game seven. So the warriors would not look. You lose the first two games on the road. All they did was whole serving home. The series doesn't start until the road to wins a game. So all Houston would have done is protect their home.
Starting point is 00:06:47 They did not let the Warriors come in and invade their territory. So we kept them at bay. Now can we make an advancement into their territory by stealing a game at home? Now, Rockets are saying all we gotta do is just hold serve at home. If we went all for it home we advance
Starting point is 00:07:08 The words are saying we got to get we got to find a way to get one All we got to do is get one at home get one and I think and we like I think that first game for the Warriors will be probably one of the best games for him to get because They young team in Houston, you know having to understand you the to see you you're the one being hunted like you got to understand and know how to protect it and You can't wait to see what the intensity is gonna be like before you have to rip it up like go to state They go already know so they know yeah the Rockers they cannot lose on their home floor They got to protect they got to protect the house and I think it's gonna be a hell of a
Starting point is 00:07:45 Siri Yeah Golden State said we already played a playoff game That was even though it doesn't go towards anything But that was a playoff type atmosphere because hey the one thing we didn't want to do was fall and now we're out so they let's just go ahead and make it live on ourself and plus I Think they like their chances better against the Rockets than they do. Absolutely, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:08:09 Hey, listen, listen. I think they definitely will take the Rockets because they know and understand the moment and they know that the Rockets will be a little inexperienced even though they're gonna play hard and they definitely gonna make it competitive. But the Rockets definitely got the I mean the Warriors definitely got the team Well, I think they were seeking out to get in the playoffs Mav beat the Mav beat the Kings 120 to 106 Aden clay combined for 50 points as the Mav blow out the Kings the game really wasn't that close at any point time
Starting point is 00:08:41 It'd be 14 points at one point time. They had it up as many as 24 points. Joe, I'm gonna ask you this. Did tonight win redeem Nico Harrison? Does he make, does the Maverick fans say, you know what, AD ain't that bad after all. He gave us, what did he give us? 27, nine, three blocks of the s sift to steal plus 10 and a plus minus 27 9 and 3 we can live with that
Starting point is 00:09:10 It's all well in Dallas after they advance to face the Memphis Grizzlies for a chance to be the eighth seed and face the OKC No, I don't think it's all well in Dallas It was a good it was a good performance by AD, but I kind of feel like the Mavericks They go get cheated this year man. They don't have Kyrie, you know If I were to ACL injury and you know at some point even maybe next game They need guys like him who can take over create havoc on offense and Put guys in the right position. So I think it's gonna be tough man. They still got any work cut out They got to play against, in Memphis, right?
Starting point is 00:09:47 Memphis can't lose that game, man. That's gonna be a good one. But let me ask you this. Are you concerned about the health of Ja? Now we saw him hurt that ankle. He stayed out for a significant amount of time. He tried to come back in, but you know you've had that,
Starting point is 00:10:04 probably had that injury where you go to shoot a shot, you land on someone's foot, ankle, you roll your ankle. How sore is he going to be? Is there enough time between they played last night, you had Thursday off, and you play tomorrow, and you have tomorrow off, and then you'll play on Friday. He's young. He's going to heal up quick. You know, if it was me and you having a square, it's going to take us about three weeks to a month to get back. He's young. He's going to bounce right back.
Starting point is 00:10:30 He's going to be ready to go. He understands the moment, I think. And knowing that it's in Memphis, I'm sure he's not going to let them fans down. So I expect John to put on a show, man. Ocho, this game, Dallas Maververicks they win 120 to 106 Anthony Davis I mean they got two contributions everywhere AD had 27 PJ Washington had 17 Clay had 23 this is what they got off the bench Dante Exum had 11 Brandon Williams had 17 and 18 minutes five or six from the floor three or four from the
Starting point is 00:11:04 three-point line four or four from the free throw line The bitch was very very good for the Dallas Mavericks to overcome DeMar DeRozan had 33 Zach Levine had a quiet 20. They didn't get the kind of production They'd normally get from the bonus. He only had 11 13 and 5 but he's normally somewhere around 17 18 Give you that and they needed that tonight when Dallas go on the road to Sacramento and win this game. Ocho, what did you like about what you saw from Dallas? I mean, this is exactly what you expected them to do. This is exactly what you expect them to do.
Starting point is 00:11:33 Obviously the fans have been mad about the trade and AD coming and Luka leaving, Luka coming in, trying to remind you why I should have stayed. But all this is for the Dallas fans and the organization for the Mavericks as well as you put a bandaid on the bandaid on the gash that's all it is this is what you're supposed to do to Sacramento so what you're gonna see is later on down the line when it comes time for a seven game series things are gonna be a little different you don't
Starting point is 00:11:59 have you don't have Kyrie he's hurt most of the book everything going to be on 80 to have to What's the word looking for be? a score a 30 or 32 or 35 to be able to leave that team to another series which Luke was able to do with Kyrie I don't think you're gonna be able to do it Yeah, you definitely need and Joe you can speak to this in the playoffs You need a guy that you can put the ball in his hands and he can go get you a play. And it's nice to have that as a guard
Starting point is 00:12:29 because you don't have to get him the ball. He can come get the ball, bring it up and Kyrie can describe it. Kyrie can get his shot from anywhere. He can finish in the paint, given that he's not an above the rim player, but his layup package and his ability to handle and create a shot for himself
Starting point is 00:12:45 or someone else is second to none. So to that, what's going on the road now, you look at Memphis, they got Triple J who did not have a great performance the other night. Job was good, Desmond Bane played unbelievable. Pippen Jr. played really well. What does Dallas have to do to go in and to create a similar performance to what they had tonight?
Starting point is 00:13:09 Uh, he's going to have to be dominant. He's going to have to be dominant, man. He's going to have to put up big numbers in order for them to win. I know they pretty much played by committee by committee. You know, Clay got off to a pretty good start tonight. You know, he shot the ball really well, but they definitely, they got guys who can put up numbers now. They got guys come out of that bench. You can definitely chip in and help but I think with this guy They're gonna give they're gonna give me for some problems as well Oh, you know they that's that's why he's able to kind of roam because he got lively and gaffer down there To kind of clog up the pain, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:13:41 Yeah, and he gets to play when Lively's on the floor. He always gets to play, for the most part, he gets to play the floor, which he loves to play. Because when you have Lively, you bring in a Daniel Gaffer. You're right. They're a big team. You look at PJ Washington, goes about 6'8". Lively goes about 6'11", 7''.
Starting point is 00:13:58 AD goes 6'10". Daniel Gaffer, 6'9", 6'10". This is a very, very big ball club. And so the front line, and they challenge a lot of shots. They had eight blocks tonight. AD had three, Gafford had two. And so you know nothing, hey, it's simple philosophy to play off nothing.
Starting point is 00:14:15 Nothing cheap, man. Nothing easy. You come in to play, I gotta put you down. I'm sorry. But what Memphis, Memphis got JJ big eating eating down there, you know They're gonna cause some havoc as well But I do a big job to really put on a pretty good performance because they don't need him They don't need his leadership, you know, definitely on the court for them to be able to continue and whoever wins the game
Starting point is 00:14:39 I think I hope they see Your prize are You know, okay They got OK, that's your prize. Huh? You know, OK, you're going to be in for a fight. What? Yeah. Are you surprised that Spencer Denwiddie, who's been a major contributor, he only got two minutes on mop up duty tonight. I was surprised they went with Exxon as opposed to Spencer Denwiddie. What is it that you think J.K.
Starting point is 00:15:04 saw that he says, you know know what the minutes that we normally give Denwitty we're gonna give those minutes to Exum because he played 19 minutes and he was since he had 11 points for for one of three one of one from the two three point line and two Bay both of his free throws had three rebounds had what? Who six assists? Ooh, six assists. He bring good energy, Augg. He bring good energy to the table. I think Dan Whitty is more of an offensive threat.
Starting point is 00:15:30 And Etchum, Etchum gonna come in and he gonna be more of an edge factor. He's gonna play hard defensively. He gonna knock down the shots if he opens especially in that corner. So I think he probably just leaned a little more on Etchum probably because he had a little bit more confidence in him than I.
Starting point is 00:15:45 And plus he's looking to get everybody involved as opposed to Spencer Dead with it looking to get in there We try to get a self-explanatory trying to get into his bag Yeah Do it is that plan for contract bro, we did keep it to keep it a keep it a buck with you Oh, yeah, I try to get this contract You're right. I think the thing is with Edie Oh, yeah, I'm trying to get this contract. Um, you're right. I think the thing is with edie Look, he reminds that I think the thing is when you look at memphis when they were at their best they had uh,
Starting point is 00:16:14 What's the guy? Uh, uh Let's think the big guy that had he just traded him to houston. Uh adams. She's being an adult Yeah, big steven adams. Yeah job was tremendous in the pick and roll. Adams gave them extra opportunities. Zach Eady can do that. But Zach is going to have to be a little bit more active. Because I think he's a better offensive weapon. He was player of the year. No matter what you think of him, his game, college game compared to the NBA, he was a player of the year.
Starting point is 00:16:45 He wasn't all American. And so he has the offensive skills. Now it's not going to do, you know, him shooting threes, but around the rim, I'm not so sure they run a whole lot of plays for him. He's not a guy that you run. Hey, you want, you want 14 points? You get it off the rim. Cause the thing is we'll have them on the floor, they're going to keep
Starting point is 00:17:04 him in picking roles you know what I mean because he's probably gonna play paint played back a lot of times he's not gonna be up to the pick and right for For the guards, you know, that's definitely essential for them trying to get to the basket and just create opportunities for everybody on the squad That's where Kyrie would be extra beneficial because you play you put Edie in the pick and roll and you know he doesn't want to hedge and he doesn't have the lateral quickness or the excuse me quickness or to be able to drop back so Kyrie like oh yeah
Starting point is 00:17:39 and Shaq would say barbecue chicken. Junkers, floaters, passes like like, it'll be pretty exciting to see. But like I said, they got other guys on their team who are capable of having big nights or even winning you a game in the playoffs, and that's what you need. Yeah. Nick Marshall did a lot of having the ball tonight. They let Clay bring it up early, but Nick Marshall was really in charge. I thought Exum coming in, gave him a boost advantage. You, as you mentioned, Brandon Williams was sensational.
Starting point is 00:18:09 He was absolutely sensational. 17 points at 18 minutes. He got it and got it going early and a lead that was like eight, nine, all of a sudden became 18, 19, 20. Yeah. What's, what's his name? Night. Nigel. Oh, Nigel Marshall, my bad. Nigel Marshall. Yeah. What's his name?
Starting point is 00:18:29 Oh, Nigy Marshall, my bad, Nigy Marshall. I thought you was talking about Brandon Weaver. I'm like, I'm seeing Weaver. Nigy Marshall, he did a lot of ball handling, but he's not a natural point guard. He's not a natural facilitator. And I think that gets a lot of teams because, oh, he can handle the ball. Just cause you can handle the ball doesn't mean you can run an offense.
Starting point is 00:18:47 And I think we saw that with the Phoenix Suns because Booker, yeah, Book can handle the ball, but Book is a dude. You look at, you go back and look at the Suns and study them. They work best when they have CP3. You get everybody, hey, Katie, you can get that shot right there. Hey, Book, you can get this right here. Stop pretending just because somebody can handle the ball, they can run an offense. Those are different things.
Starting point is 00:19:11 Handling the ball, running an offense. It's just like a quarterback, Ocho. You know, hey, he can throw the ball, but can't even run an offense. Nah. Go ahead, Ocho, what did you want to say? Nah, I just came back from using, um, wash me? Wash your hands? Nah, I just came back from using, um, wash me.
Starting point is 00:19:25 Wash your hands? Yeah, yeah, yeah, my bad. Ocho, if there's been one constant during the entire Luka-dacha trade fiasco is that Nico Harrison and the Mavs continue to make some worse PR decision imaginable. Nico said he has no regret in the Luka trade. When you look at this trade, we targeted AD.
Starting point is 00:19:50 With our philosophy of defense wins championships, we wanted a two way player that could lead our team. And that was Anthony Davis. Everyone's going to have the criticism and I'm not sure what Mark Cuban said, but that's a better question left for him. But we got what we wanted. My obligation is to the Dallas Mavericks. It's what's best interest of the Dallas Mavericks.
Starting point is 00:20:11 And that's what's the most important thing. Some of these decisions are going to be unpopular. Maybe to Durrican, maybe to some fans. But my obligation is to the Dallas Mavericks. Is he trolling at this point? He, but actually he should stop talking about it. He's making it worse. I'm not sure what his angle is. I'm not sure what it is. For the betterment of the future of the Dallas Mavericks, you want to make the right decisions long term.
Starting point is 00:20:39 Letting Luka Donjua go to the Lakers is not making the right decision by the fans or the Dallas Mavericks on this organization. Not saying that nothing wrong with AD, but I mean, when you talk about longevity and wanting to keep your job based on the decisions that you make for the betterment of the team, it would have been keeping Luka there. But that's not his, but at the end of the day, that's not his call. That's ownership's call. And the Dumont family said, okay. Mark Cuban just tweeted, what did he tweet? He called him stupid or something, I guarantee you. He said, Dirk is the Dallas Maverick,
Starting point is 00:21:22 they're not forever, no one should ever forget that. That statue will be here forever. Loyalty never fades. Tomorrow night, 15 guys will put on a Mavericks uniform and they'll do everything they can to win. For themselves, each other and the fans, our squad busted that, you know what, fight through incredible adversity.
Starting point is 00:21:42 They have my respect and support. Should have everyone's. I'm a Mavs fan. I'll always love and cheer for everyone who puts on our uniform. Tomorrow night, and however many games we have left in this season and ever in the future, whether I'm in the stands or in front of the TV
Starting point is 00:22:00 or following every play online, my heart and soul is committed to rooting for our Mavs to win. That will never change. I know fans are upset, but don't be upset at the players. Support them, root for them, rally behind them.
Starting point is 00:22:16 I don't know what, M.L., what is that? Okay, well, what Ash said. Ha ha ha ha ha. Mavs fans for life. Hashtag Mavs fan for life. Man, that was so PC. I thought he gave some truth on based on the decisions that was made. He's upset because Nico called that Dirk.
Starting point is 00:22:47 Maybe Dirk is upset. Oh, okay. Maybe the fans are upset. And he's looking at it like, bro, if you're a part of it, you know, Dirk A just, it's kind of like, Ocho, it's kind of like if you were to call out somebody from Cincinnati or when I call out somebody from the Broncos or the Ravens, it's a little different. We played there. People still remember, you know, your number 85 is up. My number 84 is up.
Starting point is 00:23:12 People remember what I did in Baltimore. So it's a little different. Right, when it comes from you. As somebody else criticizing a guy that played here. Right, okay. Like you said, Dirk is a legend. 20, what did Dirk play, 20 seasons? 20 seasons or 21?
Starting point is 00:23:28 20 seasons. Same uniform, never left. Have an opportunity to land, get bigger paydays. He said, nah, this is my home. And so, Nico, my recommendation, 21. My, yes, Ocho, just let it go. Fans are gonna be upset, fans are gonna be upset. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:50 And especially because it's still so fresh. Time, let time pass and you'll be okay, but don't mention it anymore. You're not going to make these fans forget. And no matter how much you say you wanted Anthony Davis, you targeted Anthony Davis, and we want to be a two way team, cause defense win championships,
Starting point is 00:24:14 fans ain't really trying to hear that. They ain't trying to hear that man. You gave a guy away, when you traded a guy that was there, he came here at 18, Dallas was all he knew. Those fans, Luca is all they knew and now they don't have him anymore. We know what he does on the court. I don't care, nothing but all that other stuff and you say at some point the fans will forget, they will never forget
Starting point is 00:24:41 because there's a type of player that the Lakers got they understand Luka will always remind them Dallas and Nico Collins and the owners on what they did based on his play in LA and they're gonna always resent that because he's going to be the superstar that they had he's gonna always remind them this is what you let go every single year. In every game that he had like he had that game when he went back he dropped 45. Backing a fool. That should have been that she should have been dropping that 45 on the Lakers for us. You saw the other night he had 39 against the Houston I think the Rockets and he didn't play the fourth quarter so when you see him go off for those type
Starting point is 00:25:22 performances you're like what are we doing? And AD, look, AD is a phenomenal player. AD is an all 75 player. He's been an all NBA selection. He's been an all star. He's been an all star game MVP. He's won a title. He's not Fettuccine, but he's not Luca.
Starting point is 00:25:43 Not Phoenix Sun, Bootham. The Suns became the third team in the NBA history to start the season 8-1 or better and missed the playoff. They joined the 1970 Detroit Pistons and the 2001-02 Milwaukee Bucks. KD is looking to leave the Suns. Ocho, who should be held accountable for the Sun's failure? You look at before KD got there, were the Suns playing well?
Starting point is 00:26:12 Were they failing before KD got there? Prior to he got there, what day? They was in the NBA finals. NBA finals when? They lost to 21. They lost to a 21. They lost to the Bucs and in the NBA finals and then they lost in the what? They beat the Clippers one year without the year they went to the finals. The next year they beat the Lakers and then they didn't lose to the Suns.
Starting point is 00:26:43 I mean the Nuggets. They lost to Luka. To Dallas? They were the number one seed that ended up losing to Luka. You know what, when it comes down to it, I'm assuming you can. Some of the blame does go on the players. some of the blame does go go on the players Some of the blame can't go on Kevin Durant I'm not sure how much of it you can put on one individual player come in collectively
Starting point is 00:27:11 Obviously there is a group of five that have to play And have to jail together you think obviously when you have these super team for Bradley bill and Devin Booker and Kevin Durant coming together You expect the results obviously show on the court obviously the match racing it didn't work. The relationship between him and Boonen, how do you say Coach's name? Boonenhozer. Boonenhozer.
Starting point is 00:27:31 Obviously, things didn't work, especially the way it started out. It started out really good, obviously eight and one, but not making the playoffs or playing for that matter, I mean, it's horrible. Everybody has to be held accountable. Obviously, most of the criticism and the critiquing in for that matter. I mean it's horrible. Everybody has to be held accountable. Obviously most of the criticism and the critiquing will go to the superstar players, especially one
Starting point is 00:27:51 of the greatest scores of all time. So I guess he can take that criticism. Obviously them not making the playoffs, he would be a part of the problem, if he wasn't part of the goddamn solution for that matter. I mean this is the fourth coach in four years they fired Monty Williams they fired who the Lakers coach. Vogel who's a Vogel? They fired Bud they could fire Bud yeah they're about to be on their fourth coaches. Now, Bud got three more years at 10 million. Vogel had had several years at like 8 million. And I know Mike has tons of money, but you got to stay the course a little longer than a year.
Starting point is 00:28:42 Yeah, and that's the problem. When it comes to people, when it comes to owners, obviously in life, in life, the way they fix things, most of the time when you see a pattern like this, where you keep firing coach after coach after coach after coach, it's sometimes you just throw money at it and you think it fixed the problem. That's how it works in the business world. When it comes to the sports world,
Starting point is 00:29:06 you throw your money at it and then you allow a time to manifest. You let it marinate for a little bit until it can jail until it all works out. I believe all, I think the only player that's gonna be there is Devin Booker. He's the player that started there. I think KD is gonna be gone.
Starting point is 00:29:25 Bradley Bill is gonna be gone Bradley bills gonna be gone bigger now Bradley bills a little bit more tougher than KD for the simple fact Bradley bill has a no trade clause So he has to he has to sign off on where you're going to send it. Yeah KD, you know, they're gonna be a lot of teams, but you got to replace what you gave up Yeah, you gave up a bunch of first round games and players. You're saying replace. You will never get the value of what you got for KD, but you can't get something. Yeah, you got to refill the coffers up. You got to get draft capital back. It's tough, man. It's tough.
Starting point is 00:30:04 Because KD Playfault, now he came half the year with Monty. They fired Monty after the season, hired Bogle, fired Bogle, hired Budenhozer, fired him. Now they're about to be on their fourth coach, but KD won't be there up under him. I think Book stays. I think Book is the only piece that stays. They're going to try to move. But that's what happens. People just think it's more to building a team. They're putting three guys that can put the ball in the basket. And that's what everybody good until they don't do that. Yeah Because they don't fit the pieces don't fit oh Joe and you know we think about it obviously I'm you you say those names you say those names and understanding what they can do They're no being able to score at all three levels put the ball on the floor catch a shoe pop a shoe whatever it may be
Starting point is 00:31:01 I'm thinking well hell Man, they finna be boy boy they gonna be they gonna be animals yeah if you put Chase Jefferson and Ty Rick all over the same team you got one ball hey one ball hey listen just the thought of that yeah just the thought of that strike of the band And see you look at the Patriots the pieces always fit. Mm-hmm One guy got a got a lot of mostly the catches and then everybody fit in after that, right? Well, you get KD who who's KD even MVP finals MVP four times scoring chair Okay, he really doesn't need the ball
Starting point is 00:31:46 Bradley building Booker't need the ball. Bradley building Booker, they need the ball. But what they needed, see they put, they shifted a book to the point. He can play it, but books are two. He don't need to be initiating the offense. If you look at book, he had his best years, he had CP3. CP3 was a facilitator. CP3 knew how to get everybody where they wanted the ball, where they needed the ball to be the most impact. Right. But when you have all this, you got $150 million in payroll with three guys on show,
Starting point is 00:32:14 something gotta go. Yeah. You got, you got, hey, you got this big fancy house, you buy a big fancy house and you on a budget. Well, guess what? Be like, oh, Shannon Sharp, ain't had nothing but a and you on a budget. Well, guess what be like, oh, Sharla Sharp I had nothing but a TV and then the man in the bedroom Come to the house. Hey, you'll be sitting on the floor like Indian style. That's all I got for you
Starting point is 00:32:36 That's what I that's that's all I had. I overextended myself. I got a house that was outside of my budget so It was no sense of me going more over budget and putting furniture, whole bunch of furniture in there. I got a bed and I got a TV. That's it. Let me tell you how long ago this been, Ocho. I know you didn't know this,
Starting point is 00:32:54 but Mr. Bishy used to make TV. I remember that, I had a Mr. Bishy. Yeah. Sure did. Mr. Bishy. Yep. I ain't heard I heard that long time either It was a it was a tube it was a tube TV, you know, I had a money but no, you know back then Yeah, but the knob TV that went on the wall with 10 15 20 thousand dollars baby. I said, oh no
Starting point is 00:33:22 Put this thing up on the put this thing up on the chair. I can see. Because you know, we grew up, we put it on the chair, phone, we had a little TV. Or you had the big floor model. That's what they call them. Yeah, we put our TVs, obviously, at Grandma's place, we had the crates. Remember the crates, the crates that the milk cart made? Yeah, milk crates.
Starting point is 00:33:39 Yeah, milk crates. We put all right on the crate. Oh, you have a floor model TV. Oh, yeah. Floor model. That was big. Might show the picture. Oh you have a floor model TV. Oh, yeah floor model That was big. I showed a picture. Yeah, but they have no sound right the little one had to sound See how we do that. Oh Joe see how we did that right there. Give us one more floor model TV Y'all remember Sony Savannah Zena
Starting point is 00:34:00 Hey, my grandma had the big Zenith in our room. RCA, remember the RCA with the megaphone with the dog? Yeah Hey, that's so bad. Hold on. I bet you remember the satellites though. The big satellites in New York. Yes Yes, my granddaddy had one of the big old satellites. Yes. Yes. I remember that like yesterday But it is because I mean if you go back and look at the beginning of the year The sons were 20 to 1 odds to win the NBA title. They had better odds than everybody, damn near everybody, except probably Boston.
Starting point is 00:34:32 Yeah. Wow, that's crazy. Man. It's just, it's a bad, it's a, I don't know, but where does KD go? Miami, because you know I'm always, you know I'm always say Miami. And now obviously you're gonna have to give, you know.
Starting point is 00:34:53 What are y'all gonna give up to get him? I don't know, that's not my, that's up to Pat Riley and Mickey Harrison. I'm not sure what that looks like, but as long as we keep BAM, we gonna be all right, I think. And finding some other pieces that we can get from somewhere else, we got to have some.
Starting point is 00:35:07 But I'm just, I think it would be great. It would be a great place. I think KD might have a house down here, I'm not sure. I've seen him down here numerous times. Man, you got that kind of money, you got a house everywhere. Yeah, I'm funny. Hey, listen, I... KD do, KD do it quite well for himself.
Starting point is 00:35:23 Yeah, I just listen. We need a star, we needD do it quite well for himself. Yeah, I just, listen, we need to start, we need to do what the Lakers do, always find a way to pull one out our, I'm getting ready to curse, I'm not gonna curse, pull one out our hat, we need to do that. Pat Rowley needs to do that. Just to get, have you seen the attendance at the games? It's not what it should be, especially-
Starting point is 00:35:42 First of all, they don't come to they don't come to a late anyway Yeah, y'all don't be there to talk. I look I don't been to Miami game. I went for the championship. Yeah And at the start of the game, I'm like what they are. Yeah, do y'all really know this is the NBA? Yeah, you right you right you right and remember they were leaving in that game six before Ray hit the shot And tell how they read ahead. Yeah, and they tried to come running back in try to come back in now Yeah, and they try to come running back in try to come back in now No, that ain't gonna happen I'm trying to say I'm First of all, they're only a handful of teams that have the draft capital that they're gonna need to get KD
Starting point is 00:36:15 And the question is are they willing to break it up? What's okay? See have the capital. Oh Okay, see thunder they got like 13 first round. Can you imagine can you imagine? SGA and Kevin Durant Yeah, we said the same thing about your Devin Booker and Kevin Durant. There you go We said that We said the same thing about James Harden and Joel and B right Can you imagine now James Harden has found the fountain of youth. He played, he looked like the James Harden of old. Yes.
Starting point is 00:36:49 Daddy Doug. Kawhi, Kawhi's got those knees healthy. He looks phenomenal. I just... I don't think KD doesn't strike me as a guy that lives with regret or looks back on, but probably maybe a better move would probably be going to the Knicks. Hey, like you should have done the first time instead of going to Brooklyn. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Maybe going to the Knicks from the jump.
Starting point is 00:37:14 Oh, okay, okay, it's too late. It's too late now. They might, right, they might be an option. I don't know, I'm just saying, instead of going to Brooklyn, maybe go to the Knicks. Maybe things would have been different Different we'll never know. Yeah, we'll never know. We just know this has gone horribly wrong This is there's no way around it
Starting point is 00:37:35 Look, we don't have to blame anybody but we can say this Unequivocally, this was terrible. Yeah, it was It was. The Warriors beat the Grizzlies, 121-116. Jimmy Butler 38 points, Steph Curry 37 points, and they held off a very valiant and game Memphis Grizzlies team by the score of 121 to 126. This game was really, really close. So now the Warriors advance.
Starting point is 00:38:10 They're the seventh seed and they take on the Rockets. That game probably will start Sunday. Q, watching this game, what did you like about what you saw from the Warriors? Damn that, man. I heard that Raiders shot. I'm the president of the Raider Nation. I heard that Raiders shot I'm the president of the Raider nation always remember that okay? All right now now getting to this guy. We knew what was gonna happen. It was close But we know you know Steph is you know the man Proved it once again hitting big shots big moments
Starting point is 00:38:45 Warriors advance You know, we knew what was gonna happen I Thought the game would have been a lot. You know what? It had been interesting to see cube or Ocho Yeah had John not tweak that angle. Yeah, you know, he goes up for the shot He comes down on the guy's ankle and he came back in the game late, but he wasn't Jarr. Desmond Bain was unbelievable. He kept him close, big threes, stealing the ball, doing a lot of good things.
Starting point is 00:39:12 Triple J plays an outstanding game, but I just thought if Jarr had stayed in there, it would have been interesting to see. We never know, who knows? Maybe Steph goes crazy, and he goes instead of 37, 38, he goes for 50. But it was a good game it's what we expected to be this is the first time the Warriors have actually
Starting point is 00:39:29 got out of the play-in. There had been 0 and 3. They were out there 1 and 4 in the in the play-in tournament. Ocho what you like about what you saw? Listen I enjoyed the game to its fullest I probably thought that the Warriors were gonna come out and be victorious in the win. Obviously, playoff Jimmy, as he's known to be called, showed up. Play in, Jimmy. Play in, my man. Okay, you're right, play in, Jimmy.
Starting point is 00:39:51 Listen, he had 21 and a half. He came up and he showed out. Steph Curry did what he did, ending the game with 37. But I think the game might have been different, even though it was close. If we got a jaw that wasn't injured and didn't mess up his ankle toward the end of the game, you know, Devin Bane did what he did to keep him close but obviously Steph Curry coming in clutch towards the end of the game
Starting point is 00:40:10 and it is what it is. Yeah, I mean look this is the Warriors time of year we know what they're capable of doing this it's amazing to me that they haven't gotten out of the playing queue considering all that championship game predegree all the time they've been in NBA finals they've been in Western Conference finals they've had tough or a ball games but for whatever reason it's hard for them to get out of the play-in if I'm not mistaken I think they lost to the Lakers a couple of lost to the Lakers lost to the Grizz but they haven't been what we thought they would be especially in the play-in so now they
Starting point is 00:40:42 get an opportunity to advance. They're the number seven seed. They take on the Houston Rockets. The second best record in the Western Conference. But this is a young team that's not really battle tested. Q, how do you see this matchup shaping out between the Rockets and the Warriors? Well, you know, the Warriors got that pedigree.
Starting point is 00:41:02 They know what it takes. You know, Rock Warriors got that pedigree they they know what it takes, you know rockets are Scrappy, you know, they defense they all over the court, you know, I mean they they won and they gun it Duncan they shoot and they they kind of doing it all But you know, they're all different animal, you know, you playing the same team over and over again. They get a chance to lock in on you. You get a chance to lock in on them. And you know, in basketball about a third game, you know, all the moves they got, they know all the moves you got and the will to win.
Starting point is 00:41:48 moves you got and it's just the will to win. And so the Warriors are battle tested. They got that will to win. Even though I like the Rockets Young scrapper team, I just think the Warriors got everything it takes with Draymond and Jimmy as hungry as ever. So I expect the Warriors to come out of that. Well, you mentioned you're the, what would you say to God father president and the greater nation? I'm getting president rate. So what so what are you with the Lakers? Are you the godfather the Lakers? What are you for the Lakers? Oh, man, you know the Lakers. I Mean I haven't put put a name on it, you know Some greater than love. You the mayor of Lakerville.
Starting point is 00:42:28 Yeah. But you know, I've been a big fan, man, since I was knee-high to a horse fly. And so it's just really all about seeing them jail. You know, do they have enough time in the jail to go all the way? We'll see, you know, they got a nice squad. You know, I like the size of all the role players.
Starting point is 00:42:54 You know, they all damn near the same size with the same athletic ability. And so it's pretty cool to see them teamed up with LeBron, Luca, and AR-15. Cube, let me ask you this. Where were you when you heard the news the Lakers were trading Anthony Davis for Luka Doncic? And did you believe it when you heard it?
Starting point is 00:43:23 I didn't believe it. You know, I was uh, I was at the house and And and you know, I was uh, you know, I know my son he had a you know podcast he had to do and He was just like freaking out on the podcast Read the news at the same time and so, you know, it was hard to believe that was true. But the Lakers always pulled the rabbits out they had, you know, I'm like, I felt the same way when they got shot. You know, I felt the same way when they got LeBron on, you know, it was like, man, how do the Lakers pull this off?
Starting point is 00:44:06 Great front office, you know, I never count them out, no matter, you know, how, you know, how the team look from year to year, you know, I never count that front office out. Even bringing AD in was amazing to me. Gave up a lot in the beginning, but it worked out. You got a championship out of the deal. Yeah, without a doubt Q you're the co-founder of the big three last year was your most viewed season How do you take it to the next level and it's being reported that Dwight Howard said my last year playing professional basketball
Starting point is 00:44:38 I'm gonna play it in the big dream. There we go. You know stop star power You know the same thing, you know, that you guys got here, star power. So that's what we bringing into the league. That's what people want to see. But also the style of play. You know, I think people love the big three because, you know, there's still a place for the big man. You know, we still defense, you know, we let them try as tall.
Starting point is 00:45:03 We let players be themselves, you know, you know, not penalize personality, you know, we let him trash talk. We let players be themselves, you know, you know Penalized personality, you know, right and so I think people you know love that fans want that That's what's missing in some ways in in the other professional league. And so baby come in and Do his you know last, you know go around the country in the big three, it was going to be a fun summer. But we also got other players that's great too. So now we're in cities.
Starting point is 00:45:37 Now we got a team in LA, a team in Dallas, a team in Houston, Chicago, Detroit, Boston, and the DMV in Miami. So it's gonna be interesting to unlock those fan bases and start to grow the big three from that model. What made you decide to come up with the big three you sitting around to me look you're busy you you know You're in Hollywood you back to doing music and I see I think now cube you back more in the music now than you've ever been Maybe you've taken a break from the acting thing from writing I know you got to we're gonna give this a little later, but the Friday the last last Installment of Friday. Oh of Friday, probably sitting down
Starting point is 00:46:25 writing that, you, DJ Poole. But in this situation, what made you decide to come up with the Big Three? I'm a fan. And after the finals, NBA finals, man, I would hibernate until football season started. You know? I mean, seriously, for people who love basketball and love football, those dog days of summer just got, you know, it was just brutal. And so I knew there was a lot of fans out there like me who wanted something, a real season. Could we fit a real season into that window?
Starting point is 00:47:05 between the NBA finals and the start of the regular season in football and So, you know there was a great window and three on three was sitting there kind of dormant You know, it's kind of the the little cousin of five on five Yeah, I said, you know know why haven't they been to professionalize and there was no good reasons I looked at what FIBA was doing and I said hey we could do better than that to professionalize the sport and we came up with a great wrinkles like the four-point circles and bring the fire and you know first to 50 win no no game clock, but the shot clock.
Starting point is 00:47:47 So the games are fast, they fun, and it's what basketball should be. And so, you know, we put all the great ingredients into it, and it was a great idea. that we had the connections and the people to make it come true. And Hall of Famers had blessed us. George Gervin, Dr. J, Clyde Drexler, Rick Berry. These guys blessed the league and said it's something they want to be a part of. That's the league and say there's something they want to be a part of and And so I knew if the Hall of Famers was into it. I was on to something Because they wouldn't get behind something that wasn't pure. Yeah, and so You know, that's that's that's the the way it started and it really happened after I seen Kobe's last game.
Starting point is 00:48:48 I was kind of upset that I couldn't see him play no more. And I said, man, why can't he play? And then I just was like, well, maybe it's just the 82 games. Because if you can score 60 points in a damn game, you can play, I don't give a damn. How old you are, you know what I'm saying? you can play I don't give a damn you know how old you are you know I'm saying you can play so then I said okay what in you know what if it was half court what if it was you know ten weeks you know it was first to 50 win
Starting point is 00:49:18 and it was kind of a sprint and that's you know such a long marathon or a long grind. And you get a week to recover. I just tried to put all the good ingredients in to make sure players were at their best. We kind of looked at the NFL model, an important game once a week. And you use the week to get your body right you come on you give a thousand percent Joker becomes the third player to average a triple double during the season He joins his teammate Russell Westbrook Oscar Robinson Oscar Robinson and Russ are the only ones to average a 30-point triple double Yokoji's finished point two points short of that. He averaged twenty nine point eight points per game
Starting point is 00:50:07 12.8 rebounds per game, 10.3 assists per game, and averaged what? 1.8 steals per game, which was tied for second. Dyson Daniels led the league with 3.0 assists per game. Jokic had more triple doubles this season, 34 than any three players in the league combined. No other players else entered Friday with more than 10 this season. I think LeBron had exactly 10, correct? So that just goes to show you just how dominant Yolk was. Very, very, hey, I got a question. As dominant as he is, right? Being that his game isn't
Starting point is 00:50:49 based on explosion and being quick and playing above the rim, how long can he keep this up? As long as he wants to. It's been reported he's about to sign a three-year, $212 million extension in the offseason, which is the Supermax, which is the most a guy can sign for, which is that $70 million per year extension, which was Luke was going to be entitled to this off season. So, because of his game, it's not a lot of pounding, it's not a lot of up and down. Right. Another eight years. Consistency, Consistently doing this. He got this. Long as his mind stays sharp.
Starting point is 00:51:30 But you got to realize those type players are not like American players. It's not the end all be all to them. You hear them talking, he wants to get back to his horses. He wants to get back to his native land. He wants to be with his family. That's what he wants to do. I'm not saying he doesn't take the game serious. He takes the game. You don't become this good. I don't care how talented you are, be this dominant without taking the game serious, without putting the work in. And that was the thing. I mean, people talk about Luca. Luca put the work in. I think the thing is with Luca is that you look at his body. He's never going to have a body like LeBron James. He's never going to have a body like the Dwight Howard.
Starting point is 00:52:09 Neither is Jokic. Yeah. That's not how that's not their makeup. That's not their genetic makeup. Oh, Joe, that's not how they're going to be built. European players. Well, European players you see built like that got caps on their shoulders, amped up.
Starting point is 00:52:25 Right. You're right. He got quad half straight definitely that ain't what they are. Can you put the ball in the basket? Absolutely Absolutely He had a phenomenal season, but she she she should win the MVP. He's earned that he's been, I mean, all those consecutive 20 point games, all those, uh, uh, he led the league in 50 point games, led the league in, uh, uh, 40 point games, 30 point game, 20 point games. He's been, he's been sensational and they have the best record in the NBA. Oh, he got one of the other. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:08 Yeah. John has had 11. Brian has 10. So LeBron finished second, third, triple doubles, but Yokel was far, far, far, far, far ahead of everybody with those triple doubles. But it's going to be a very interesting matchup because there's a big body that can bang with it But here's the thing Luba's gonna have to be extremely careful cuz he can get him in foul trouble cuz you'll get all those moves those ups and
Starting point is 00:53:32 Unders and loop doopsy-doop. So it's gonna be very very interesting to see how this thing plays out

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