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Green Bay can you hear me?
Fuck yeah.
Thank you guys for joining us.
Thank you guys for joining us.
Welcome to Nightcap NFL Draft 2025.
I am your favorite on Shannon Sharpe.
Draft class 1990, pick 192.
Bronco Ring of Fame 2009, Pro Football Hall of Fame 2011. My partner
and co-host draft class 2001, Bingles Ring of Fame honoree, 2024. No year together. Okay 23 23. Yeah, this is Chad
Ojo Cinco Johnson
Hmm, oh wait a minute wait a minute, can you hear me?
Before before I start I need you to repeat after me, okay? I said repeat after me!
Hello?
I fucking love you.
Let's go.
The Tennessee, look, this is the worst camp secret
of the America guys.
When they canceled all the other pre-draft workouts
and said after they worked out Cam Ward,
they, Travis, thank you but no thank you.
Jadour, thank you but no thank you.
All those other guys I think they would settle their guy.
When you become this set on your guy,
you have him targeted, you've been watching him
for a long period of time,
you want this guy to come in and start.
This is not, well let's see, wait till the last minute,
let's look at a couple of other guys on Choke.
This is the guy they targeted.
This is the guy they want.
They believe this is the guy that's gonna be
their Steve McNair, get them back
and play off contention year after year.
Get them to a Super Bowl.
What is it that you like so much about Cam Ward?
I like what Cam was able to do for the Hurricanes.
Able to have him back to the resurgence
where they were a top team.
Got his usual offense, looked very good.
Seeing him as a trend,
a generational talent or a minute to die.
He got to get there.
I like what he's been able to do,
so I'm not sure what's gonna happen once he gets there.
Obviously, he's their answer,
and he's supposed to be their answer for the next 10 years. Similar to what Jane Daniels did for the Commanders. I'm not sure what's gonna happen once he gets there. Obviously he's their answer and he's supposed to be the answer for the next 10 years similar
with Jane Daniels did for the commanders I'm excited. You know what I like most
about Ken Ward? Adversity. Yes. He just didn't go to one University. He started
at Mackin. He goes to he goes all over the place and then he settles in at the
University of Miami. You want guys that have had adversity in their life you
want guys that have gone through things, struggled because it's going to be a struggle.
Yes.
At some point in time, you're going to face adversity as a quarterback or even a player in
the NFL. And having gone through that adversity, he knows what it's like to fall on hard times,
pick himself up and start back down there.
I have a question for you.
Yes.
If Cam Ward does go number one, is he a date one starter or is a quarterback competition where Will
Levinson in Kam? Well they'll say it's a quarterback competition but Kam Ward
because they singled him out so long ago, they didn't bring anybody else in. They
knew they wanted a quarterback and they knew in order for you to win in this
league you got to have a quarterback. Right. The reason, think about it, why is it a
quarterback competition?
We're picking number one overall
because the quarterback that's on the roster
wasn't any good.
Or he wasn't very good, let's be real with it.
Because if he was that good,
they wouldn't be picking this high.
The mere fact that they're picking this high
and they're taking a quarterback
tells you they want to transition and go to Cam Ward.
Now what happens if the Titans pull a wool of our eyes?
They have everybody thinking they'd take Cam Ward first
and they pull a wool and do something else with the first pick of the draft
I don't I don't believe they're gonna do anything different or children. Let me tell you why
They've been seen like they've been set on this pick for such a long time
Yeah, and when you're picking this high and you're gonna guarantee this guy somewhere between 40 and 45 million
Yes, his contract is gonna be fully guaranteed.
I would have liked to thought that if you wanted,
it was thinking about going somewhere else,
you bring somebody else in, talk to them,
get a feel for them.
They could, they could.
But I don't believe that's the case.
I believe Cam Ward is their guy.
This is the funny thing about it.
If you have the number one pick,
you really don't have to talk to anybody else,
because you already know who you're taking regardless.
You don't know what their plans are,
especially in the war room. Yeah, sometimes you know how they play
You never know. It's a chance a chess match
So i'm curious i'm excited if cammore does go to denisey. I wish him nothing but the best
At number two, what would y'all like to see who who who's going number two?
Trav trav. Yeah travis hunter abdul carter. Yeah, I think it's I think it's a two horse race for number two Travis Hunter, Abdul Carter.
I think it's a two horse race for number two.
I think it's Travis Hunter and Abdul Carter.
Obviously, Travis is a two way player.
He can give you offense, he can give you defense.
Abdul Carter is an edge Russian, 12 sacks this past season.
He's been by a lot of people.
Michael Parson, LeBar Errington, that's a great linebacker lineage that comes out of
Penn State University.
It's going to be very, very interesting to see.
The third is where it starts to get interesting.
You know, I think the first two picks, I think they're kind of, I'm not going to say etched
in stone, but the guy's carving, I think he's already on the scene.
Well, actually, I don't think number three might be different based on who goes number
two.
If Trav or Ab, if they go defense, you go with a two-way player, I'd say Trav three might be different based on who goes number two if travel if they go if they go defense
You go with a two-way player. I say Travis Hunter goes number two. Yes, then it's a it's a toss-up
That's what I'm three. Can it be Abdul Carter? Do the Giants need another deep is in there already have to go
Go go with cave on pivotal. Yes
What about your door because they don't have a quarterback goes with Lawrence to be tackle
But here's the thing, Ocho.
You really need somebody to compete in that division.
Right.
At the quarterback position.
OK, they got Russ.
Yeah.
Is that enough to hold it?
It's only one year.
I know.
They got Jameis, but that's only one year.
Jane Daniels, Jalen Hurts.
Yes.
Dak Prescott.
If you go back and look at what happened to the Raiders, you got Pat Mahomes, you got
Bo Nicks, you got Justin Hurdle.
And now you got Jeno Smith.
You see the Raiders really needed, they knew they needed a quarterback because you got
this quarterback heavy division.
The NFC East is the quarterback heavy division now the
question is do you want to match fire with fire or do you want somebody to go
extinguish that fire mmm that's the question a defensive player can only
impact the game so much you see with the what do what do Philly have defense oh
come a cut or deep it collectively though as a whole. You hear Cherbs Washington's try and play for. Go up. No they're in play for TJ Watt.
Okay. That'd be nice. So I think it starts to get interesting at
three. Once we get to three and okay it's gonna really start to get interesting.
Four five six seven eight the top ten is gonna be, listen to Adam Shepter.
I think somebody else said it.
More teams are interested in moving down than moving up.
I think we don't have a really exciting draft class
outside of maybe the top three.
There aren't too many players that really attract.
What was he saying?
Yep.
Okay. We got saying? Okay.
You got them fucked.
Oh, okay.
Don't let go.
Don't pack go.
Don't.
He going number one.
That's the face you have when you going number one.
Sure.
The count. He like bad. He going number one. That's the face you have when you're going number one. Sure.
The cow.
He like, man, I'm nervous.
It's beautiful.
But they've done a great job of holding it in, Oto, because you don't want to rob him
of that excitement.
Right.
You're, hey, let him have that moment.
Let him, hey, let him call.
Hey, hey, man, it's me.
I'm just calling.
Hey, man, what you doing?
What'd you have for lunch?
What'd you have for breakfast today? You see Travis Hunter in the pink? Is that pink or fusion?
That's pink. That's pink.
Okay. That's pink or pink?
I'm excited for Trav. I'm excited for Trav, especially wherever he goes. I'm hoping the
organization knows that he would love to play both sides of the ball. I hope they grant
him that grace, being that's what he was able to do at Colorado. I'm excited for him
I don't know where he goes. I would like you know what I would like what I would like for Jerry Jones to make a splash
By not talking to the media but moving up the draft and going to get Travis Hunter at number two
I like that. Oh boy. You got to give up so much. I think the count
You might as well you might as well. I mean I just
Hypothetically speaking I think would be dope Jerry says he's had something brewing on the trade market
That's what Jerry said Jerry says he got to two big fish in the fryer right now
This might be it
If I'm Jerry I go try to get Tyreek
Whoo, that's a that's another good one. That's a good one. I like that
I like that Tyreek Tyreek and CD Tyreek and CD tip Tyreek outside CD in the slot
You got jabante weave that running back. He came on from the broncos
I think they're gonna probably they need to do something in offensive line
Uh, zag martin retired the offensive line wasn't very good last year. They were beat up on tearing steel is there
Uh, they got the smith kid, but they need they need some quality that got hit a little bit too much
And the running game was non-existent.
I don't know if they weren't very good at the running game,
or they didn't put an emphasis enough on the running game,
but they definitely need to improve the running game
and the offensive line.
Yes, sir.
What do you think?
So you think they pulled a switch of rule on us?
I might think so.
I don't know why I can feel it.
What do y'all think?
Who do you think is going to be the first pick?
Cam.
Travis?
You think Travis?
You think Cam?
Who you got?
Who you got going number one?
Travis? You think so?
You want to make a bet? Let's bet 20 bucks.
Let's bet 20 bucks, me and you. I ain't gonna pay you, but let's bet.
No, he don't pay. Don't bet him. Don't bet him. He don't pay.
He been on me thinking 200 for six months.
Oh, come on now. It's time to eat.
We don't normally be late. We don't know the
clock. I'm on the clock. There's three minutes. Well, I didn't hear the
commissioner. The commissioner normally comes to the podium. Welcome to the 2025
NFL draft. Right. Welcome. The clock. How long the clock go? I think it's 10
minutes in this. Okay. Asher, you in my ear. How long? What? We want to make a bet?
I'm going to tell, he's going camp.
Oh you got camp?
Look at Commence on the bike.
I got camp.
Hey look at Commence on the bike.
He trippin'.
That's the Green Bay Training Camp tradition.
Hold on, I got Travis Hunter going first.
Let's bet.
Friendly bet, friendly bet.
Alright.
Lord have mercy.
Commence probably hadn't rode a bike, hadn't rode a bike in 20 years.
30.
40.
Make it 40.
And they got Lil Wayne on the bike.
With us.
With us?
Yeah!
Okay.
Lil Wayne on the bike with us.
Ah, let's go!
Come on, Lil we got, come on, what we go. Come on, Louis.
Get come on. What we got? Come on.
Commence got on sneakers.
I say that's all I know.
Matthews, Jr. Clay Matthews, Jr.
They look the same. He dug. They still booing the commission?
You know that.
After all these years.
Yes.
Actually, they booing the owners, but he had to go out there in front of them.
Remember how we talked about Nico Harrison? That's right. Yeah most definitely. Hey are you
nervous to lose that 20? Alright.
Matter of fact you don't even have to pay me after this you got to treat me
to dinner. No I want to go to, you gotta treat me to dinner. Can you?
No, I wanna go to Tanner's.
All right, bet.
Can you hear commission talking?
No.
I can't either.
No, I was wondering why I thought
we was gonna be able to hear.
Oh, we're turning the TV up so we can hear. I mean, I like to watch the games and sound, but I want to hear the pinks in real time.
Yes.
No, he's a Broncos. He's a Bronco. Ravens. No, no.
Both.
Hey, you're a Raven fan?
Hey, tell us.
Why are you here?
Come on, man.
Oh, you're a Raven fan too?
Listen, you know what?
I still love you, but everybody likes to have flaws.
That's one of yours.
It's cool.
Hey, hold on.
Who's the Raven fan?
Who's the Raven fan?
Who's the Raven fan? Who's the Raven fan? Who's to have flaws. That's one of yours. It's cool.
Hey, hold on. Who's better? The Ravens or the Bengals?
Ravens. Ravens.
You want to make a bet this year?
Bet $20.
What? Yes, yes, yes, without you in my ear.
Not too loud, not too loud. That's a good one.
That's a good one. That's a good one.
I don't know if the president actually said that, but that was pretty good.
So as the commission announced that the Titans are on the clock, here we go.
Come on, Rod.
He can speed this up if he just go ahead and announce the pick.
Yes. Let's go.
See times are on the clock.
Do we have any Titans fans here?
Oh, you by yourself.
Time fans know that says Vikings.
Hey, Warren Moon Warren Moon said that if cam Cam goes to the Titans, he will take the number one out
of retirement to allow him to wear it.
That's dope.
That's live.
So there it is.
Yeah.
Quarterback to defensive players.
I don't know.
I just have a feeling they're going to pull a fast one.
You think so?
I have a feeling.
I don't know why.
Let me ask you this.
Why would you take Trav and you ain't got nobody hitting the ball?
You don't think they'll get Will Levinson another year?
He really hasn't had a really actual chance.
I think they would, but he keeps making the same mistakes.
That's what he bug coaches.
See?
Okay. Wow.
Okay.
All right.
Yeah.
All right.
Listen to that.
I have to talk.
He says that the Tennessee Titans were sold on Cam War.
Right.
The giant said, we'll switch parts.
We'll switch parts.
We'll switch parts.
We'll switch parts.
We'll switch parts.
We'll switch parts.
We'll switch parts.
We'll switch parts. We'll switch parts. We'll switch He says that the Tennessee Titans were sold on Cam War.
The Giants said we'll switch spots with you at three and give you next year's number one.
And other draft picks.
So that solidifies Cam going one.
Yeah.
It looks like I lost the bet, sir.
Hey, look at him.
He got the phone up to his ear, Ocho.
Allow him to have that moment.
Right.
I know.
Oh, you want me to sign it, huh?
Wait, you want me to sign that one or the one I give you?
Hey you got $20?
You got $20?
Somebody got to have...
Shelly.
I'm betting money I ain't even got a...
I'm getting your money now hold on.
I'm getting your money now, hold on.
Wow.
Yeah, you gotta do a better job.
Wow.
Mel Capra seems to be sold more on Chidor than Cam Ward, but it's too late now. The hay's in the barn.
Cam's going number one overall.
How you betting my money?
He betting my money.
It's yours?
Yeah, that's mine.
I owe you $ me more than that.
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I think the one thing, watching him, Ocho, he got to do a better job of getting the ball
out.
He takes a lot of sacks.
All the, a lot of times the quarterback gets sacks, people automatically think it's the
offensive line.
Right.
Sometimes you got to know when to hold them, know when to hold them.
Sometimes don't get your team in second and long, third and long. Sometimes don't
take your team out of field goal range. Get the ball out. It's okay to live to
see another day, but be smart. You know if you're in field goal range, don't take a sack.
Throw it out of bounds. If you know your second is short, don't
be third and long. Just don't do anything stupid. He does a great job of
protecting the ball, but sometimes I think he's too cautious. You've got to
have some risk in order to be successful in the league.
I think he's going to be okay.
I don't like what the media and the pundits have done to him.
Yeah, yeah, they beat him up.
Yeah, they're beating him up really bad based on him being confident.
That's one of the few things that you do need to play at the highest level is you've got
to have belief.
You've got to be confident in your skills and what you're able to do.
Coming out and saying, if you want a franchise changing quarterback, you come and get me,
there's nothing wrong with that.
There's nothing wrong with that at all.
What was he supposed to say?
If you want a franchise changing quarterback, don't come get me, don't draft me.
If you want to win your division, you want to go to the playoff, don't take me.
Of course, that's what he's supposed to say.
I do like Cam, he do have great escape ability.
Look, I think we all can agree that Cam is a better
athlete than Shador, but that doesn't mean Shador can't play in the NFL. Peyton Manning wasn't the
greatest athlete. I'm not saying Shador is going to be that. I'm not saying he's going to be Tom
Brady, Drew Brees, Phillip Rivers, but there's room for guys that are not athletic as athletic as Salem or Jackson or uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh that he's much better at. He's precision. He's accuracy. His ability to process very fast outside of holding the ball too long, sometimes waiting on things to develop.
Sometimes it's what a quarterback, what you can't see with a quarterback that makes him
great. Because you look at Tom Brady, he didn't have anything, no big arm. He couldn't run
very fast. He didn't have the muscular body. But what he had here, what he had here.
Replaced everything else.
Replaced everything else.
So sometimes it's the intangibles as opposed to the tangibles.
Right.
How much time on the clock?
We got, the pick is in.
Picks in, picks in.
Well, we're about to find out if picks in.
I want my 20 bucks. Travis Hunter.
No.
Yeah, I didn't see anybody else put the phone up to the air, Ocho.
I didn't see Travis put the phone up to his ear.
I didn't see a dude call to put the phone up to his ear.
That might have been a trick though. That might have been a trick. Man, who playing on the phone up to his ear. Yeah. I didn't see a dude call to put the phone up to his ear. Wait, that might have been a trick though.
That might have been a trick.
Man, who playing on the phone?
Ha ha ha ha.
Here it come.
Now what?
The Tennessee Titans select from the University of Miami.
Okay okay you're right you're right good pick.
I damn it.
Yeah guys I don't think there was much of a surprise here.
When they turned down all of the visits and workouts, they zeroed in on the guy.
I'll tell them.
You know what it's like?
Yes, sir.
It's like you know the kind of car you want.
Right. Why are you going to go test driving, wasting people time It's like, you know the kind of car you want. Right.
Why you gonna go test driving,
waste your people time test driving something
that you know you already.
You're not gonna buy.
You're right, you're right about it.
You got your mind made up.
Yeah.
What is this a Ferrari, a Lambo, a G-Wagon,
a Cullinan, whatever the case may be.
Right.
When you have your mind set,
don't go wasting people time,
let me test drive this, let me test drive that.
Oh, we got a trailer, Ocho.
Wait, what are we doing?
The browns are trading. The Cowboys? I guarantee you Jacksonville
No, they're going to get
They're going to get they're going to have trial. You're gonna get trapped
Wait, what if they shock you and they get asked Abdul Carter? No, no, no after gently. Yeah, no
No, ooh, ah, I don't know, Ocho.
Hold on.
You going, you going to get a running back?
Okay, listen, I just heard about Jacksonville,
I just heard about Jacksonville always wanting
to ask some Gendys.
I heard about that fix.
Right.
Wow.
Wow. Hey, I thought we'd get interested in once we got past three. Three.
Oh, the draft started at two.
Yeah.
Uh-huh.
That changes up everything now, though.
It does.
It changes up everything.
Let me tell you where it changes up at.
Who goes to?
That's what changes.
Right.
Now, if they take Jenti.
Wait, they got ETN, right?
That's what I'm saying. That's why they take Jente. Wait, they got ETN, right?
That's what I'm saying.
That's why I think it makes sense for me to take Travis Hunter because you can play him
on offense and defense.
Now, you get a package together.
Right.
Hey, he plays as many snaps as he can handle on defense, and you got a nice little package
for him on offense.
I like it if Travis Hunter is the pick. Right. I think if Genzy's the pick also I look at Philly. I look at what
Saquon was able to do for the Philadelphia Eagles and I see Aston Genzy
in that same light being able to run the ball being able to be a three down back
he can pass, protect, can catch the ball out the backfield. He can do some of those
things. I'm not sure. I don't know what they can do with the number two pick. Travis
Hunter is nice but I would have much preferred him somewhere else in the bigger
market, New York.
I would have loved him in New York.
And obviously in Cleveland, opposite side of Denzel Ward and obviously doing some stuff
on offense.
Opposite of Judy.
Yeah.
But, I mean, where do y'all think Jacksonville, where is Jacksonville going with the number
two pick now? I think Hunter. Travis Hunter? I think Jacksonville, where is Jacksonville going with the number two pick now?
I think Hunter.
Travis Hunter?
I think Travis too.
Where is he going?
Number two pick.
Travis?
Travis?
Travis?
Travis?
Travis?
I think so too, Ocho.
It makes sense.
Because House, where you gonna get him?
Yeah. Gotta go up.
You gotta tear it too.
He won't be there.
Nope.
Won't be there.
Nope.
Nope.
Because then there's a possibility somebody shoot him
past three and take him.
Yeah.
Two, two, make a trade with the Giants to take him.
I think it's gonna be Travis Hunter.
I'm not surprised.
I'm surprised, like I said,
I won't be surprised if it's Travis Hunter.
I'm gonna be shocked if it's Ashton Ginty.
Ain't no telling. Ain't no telling.
I mean number two to Ocho, a running back.
Yeah.
He went two.
Two he did.
He went behind Baker Mayfield.
That's right. So why you think he wouldn't be the one to go to?
He's yeah, I'm not saying he's not as special. I'm not saying he's
Yeah, okay. Okay people are telling us gonna be Travis Hunter
I like it. We got a spy in the cream room. Travis Hunter has been on the phone with
Travis Hunter has been on the phone with... Travis Hunter Duvall County? They get the second...
Oh, Joe.
The Browns get the fifth overall pick, the 20-25 second and fourth round picks, and next
year's number one.
That's nice.
That's a haul.
That's nice.
Joe, to move up three spots. Yeah.
Look at what they gave up to move up three spots. You thought the Cowboys were going to move up ten spots?
They had to give up AT&T Stadium.
That's dope. Travis Hunter Duval County. Oh, Joe.
That's almost as big a deal as what the 49ers gave up to get a trade trade lands. Yeah
Then trade lands went from that didn't work out so well. No, I'm a
But look
Travis is proven Travis did it at Jackson State and they said yeah
But if you had a bigger school, you couldn't do that
He goes to a power for anything and he did it on both sides of the ball at a very high level. He was the Heisman Trophy winner, he was the Blitnik
Cup award winner, he was the Gershkie award winner. So there's no question about his ability.
The question that people have is can he play at the level he played at in college on both
sides of the ball?
Yeah, I think you can. Like you already talked about, I prefer to see him at receiver or
DB. Maybe they have some packages for him at right at receiver as a DB one thing about it
I know all games are gonna sell out. I know it's gonna have the number one selling Jersey this year
Yeah, yeah, who've all County you got you a good one
They got you a good one in Jacksonville. I like it. I like this pick. That's dope. I like this bitch
I'm really liking this pick to the Jags Jag Jags knew the guy that they wanted, Ojo.
Yes, sir. They knew the guy that they wanted.
Okay, we're gonna have to give up a King's Ranch and get them. Got to. And sometimes when you want a house in that subdivision,
in that call to sign, they got great, great schools in that district. Yes. Everything is in close proximity.
You got to pay a little bit of, you have to pay a little extra.
It's all about location.
And you have no problem playing extra
for that nice location because you know
what you get long term.
Yes.
Know what you get long term.
So you gotta think resale.
I'm gonna be able to recoup my money in Travis Hunter.
Easily.
People are gonna, look, he's from Georgia,
so a short ride from Atlanta to Jacksonville.
I like this pick.
Now they gave up a lot to get him, Mocho. It was worth it Now they gave up a lot to get it Mocho.
It was worth it. They gave up a lot to get it. Worth it. Oh absolutely. Worth it. Ash how much time we got?
Take it in. Commission's walking back to the scene. Is it?. I knew what you were doing. He was in San Francisco. Uh, he was in San Francisco two years ago.
What's his name? D-Lime?
Oh, I don't know D-Lime.
Who was that? What's his name? He was in San Francisco.
Uh.
Uh...
Go back there and I'll stay in.
Uh, Duval. Little Duval actually gonna lose his mind.
Yeah, absolutely.
Wow.
I don't think anybody saw this pick coming though Joe.
I don't think anybody saw this trade.
Not the trade, the pick yes.
I knew he was going to.
Yes.
He had to be going to.
Yes.
I just didn't know anybody would jump up and go get him like this. Travis. Travis. Yeah.
Travis.
Travis.
Travis.
Travis.
Travis.
Travis.
Travis.
Travis.
Travis.
Travis. Travis. Travis Hunter.
That's live.
That's live.
Wide receiver defensive back.
And he got his dad in attendance.
His dad was able to get permission, Ocho, to come see his son.
There you go, Tram.
Show them. Show them. Show them. That's live. That's great. Ocho to come see you There you go, Tram show Show up
That's live that's great
The thing is Ocho what these young man hopefully
Your journey starts all over again. Yeah, most definitely there was a journey to get to this point
Now your journey starts all over again because your journey wasn't just to get here, it was to thrive here. Yeah, most definitely.
Listen, as a youngster, I remember those days,
obviously I wasn't able to go to the draft,
but just getting drafted and just thinking about
all the obstacles I had to come to the draft.
I was about to go to the draft, the military.
I was getting ready to head down
to the Air Force Recruiting Center.
This is dope. This is great for Travis, it's great for-ruiting Center. Hey, this is dope.
This is great for Travis, it's great for
Any trial.
The Jaguars organization.
That's the dope feeling.
Ha ha ha ha ha.
Hey.
Dude, oh. Hey, there's skill guys come they can't know the skill guys can't live
commission of like this is unbelievable.
This is unbelievable right here.
All right.
Yeah, I like it. I like it. I don't think we got it. We got the Giants at three. All right. Yeah.
I like it.
I like it.
We got the Giants at three.
Yeah.
It's going to be Carter.
You think so?
Yeah.
Pay him with Thibodeau.
Pay him with Lawrence.
But then what should he answer long term at the quarterback position if you do go with
Thibodeau?
Well, they said they believe Russ can sustain him for a year.
They got Jameis.
So the thing is, they want to be able to attack Jalen Hurts.
They want to be able to attack Jane Daniels.
They want to be able to attack Dak Prescott.
So with that in mind, look, you got two edge rushers and you got one of the premier D tackles
and all the football collapsed in the pocket on the inside.
I like the pick.
I like the pick.
Because if I'm taking a quarterback at three, I got the loving.
I got the loving.
But also, in that division, you got to have a quarterback to be able to score some points.
You go defense, let's say you do go at Abdul Carter here.
Yeah.
You're able to stop all the teams that are able to score and will in your division.
Right.
But how are you going to put up points? Well. How, how you gonna put up points? They say they got believe neighbors
They believe russ can get him the ball
They believe they could probably get a they can get up who knows that they could trade back in and get one of these receivers
But they I think they believe both sure they can get a great pick in the second round
Do you believe that man do you believe they can get a day to pick, a day two wire receiver that's quality?
Absolutely.
There's some gems that aren't out there that aren't talked about enough that might be able
to come out based on the system that they do run.
Correct.
Yeah.
The first two picks, I'm not surprised at all.
No. I mean mean you get the
you get the premier cornerback draft you get a top three receiver in
the draft you get the best athlete in the draft yeah most definitely I'm not
surprised at all
Oh
Trav, you know, they got two balls Florida on the cap. I like that
Giants bigger bigger in giant speakers in
In the green room say don't be Abdul what we What we got? Who you got in number three?
Abdul Carter?
Abdul Carter.
They're gonna attack. I say maybe maybe Shador. I don't know. I think the thing is they want to attack the quarterback. Right. They want to attack the quarterback. You get two edge rushes.
thing is they want to they want to attack the quarterback right they want to attack the quarterback you get to edge rushes because think about what what
the Philly what the Philly got they got Jalen Hursey inside yeah and they got
them edge rushes on the edge yeah now they lost they lost you know what boy
that uh sweat was the sweat yeah and they have a young boy yeah three
what's number three he ended up with he went to all New England okay but they
still but they still they still got see the understand the last place with eight
plus starts on offense and defense and that was what 95 yeah that was long long
time ago yeah very long but you have to understand though, Ocho, that was time seventh or eighth
season. Right. That wasn't his rookie season. Defenses are a little bit more complex. Offenses
are a little bit more complex. Right. But he told you before you... Oh, they're going to allow it?
No, Jacksonville is going to allow it. Oh, okay, okay. They're going to allow it? No. Jacksonville is going to allow it.
Oh, okay, okay.
They're going to allow it.
Yeah. The pick is in.
The pick is in.
Giants.
Shadour Sanders.
You want to make a bet?
How much you got to lose?
The man hugged his mom and dad on the TV up there.
Oh, for real? Yeah. You're cheating. You and dad on the TV up there. Oh for real?
Yeah.
Hey you're cheeing, you're looking at the TV.
Yeah I told y'all I spy in the 90s, there you go.
Okay.
Abdul Carter.
Even Pops got on the chain.
Look at Pops playing.
There you go Pops.
That's live. Abdul Carter to the Giants.
Look, he's a unanimous all-American. Yeah. The one thing that the guy, for
the most part, you look at LeBar guys that wear that number 11 special. Yeah, it is special special
They special Abdul Carter is special. He can be he can transfer speed to power. He can bend the edge
Hey, I
Got no problem with this pick and on that turf. He's gonna be dynamic. He's gonna be electric. I
Mean I like it, but still, I'm thinking about,
in order to compete in that, especially in that division,
you need somebody at the quarterback,
there's nothing wrong with Russ.
There's no disrespect to Russ,
and no disrespect to Jameis as well,
but to compete in that division,
you need a transcending talent,
someone to set you ahead of schedule by a decade.
Okay.
I don't see, I like should do it. I don't understand
I don't know what the scouts are seeing I don't know the GMs are looking at but I see I saw him do that Jackson state
I don't gotta come. We got a special handshake. Yeah, that's special handshake. Oh
They practice that yeah, they did absolutely practice that I
Think everybody's happy with the first three picks Ochoa. I think every
fan base is really happy with those picks. You can't go wrong. For the first five you
really can't go wrong. And four I think the Patriots said four. Everybody had them pegged
in to take offensive linemen. The big offensive linemen on the LSU? Yeah. Will Campbell. Yeah. Our spies tell us that Will Campbell is on the phone with somebody.
I don't think it's his accountant.
That's a great pick, man. That's a great pick.
Look at this. The great timing. Hey, that's how you do it. You unload. Look at this, the great timing. Hey, ooh! That's how you do it, you unload. Look at this.
Hey, running back, you better step up.
You better step up.
Oh, let me get that.
Great tip, dropping coverage.
He's doing everything.
Look at this.
He's spying, spying, spying, spying.
Look at this, look at this closing speed.
Give me that.
Yeah. But this is where he excels at right here, Ocho. Yeah. Look at this, look at this closing speed. Give me that. Yeah.
But this is where he excels at right here, Ocho.
Yeah. Look at this.
Look at this, look at this.
From one side of the field to the other side of the field,
a TFL, tackle for loss.
But look at this, look at this deal boo.
That's Bob Miller special.
Bro, tell me, where you going?
Did low and rip?
Yeah. Yeah.
He's special, he can bend.
You're nice. That's a good pick.
I can't complain. I can't complain.
I like it, Ocho.
Because everybody else in that division with the exception of the Cowboys has an outstanding defense.
At least they were last year.
We saw what Philly did.
Look, we don't know what's going to happen with the commanders.
It's been reported that they're in the running with Petit J. Watt.
His bird stealers might want to move, try to move up.
But I like this pick for them. I do. I agree with you now.
Don't get me wrong. I agree with you with the quarterback situation.
But for them to go defensive player, instead of a quarterback tells me,
I'm not sold on Chidor, I'm not sold on Jackson Dart and when you take
a guy you got to be sold on Joe yeah matter of fact yeah when you play when
you play a million plus for home you got to be sold yeah everything should be
ready for you to move in and just sit up shop yeah that's it and he's that type
of player he's a plug-and-play there's no question they want to start in day one
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Oh, the Packers want TJ?
Heh, heh, heh, heh. I think, I think, I think a loters won't TJ.
I think a lot of teams won't TJ.
You're talking about one or two or three best rushes in the NFL.
The New England Patriots are on the clock now at four.
Now they made a splash.
They spent a lot of money in the offseason.
They spent a lot of money. They gotseason. Yeah, they spent a lot of money
Yeah, they got their quarterback. They got their headcoat. Yes. I
Like guns all in the corner. They wouldn't got a D tackle played premium. Yeah, they bought stephen. Yep
They're both step foot. You're at stephan D's again. I'm not we got to protect that quarterback
We got a if you got a bunch of money somebody got a gun for security. Oh. Yes, sir. I think, I think it's going to be the offensive tackle from, from LSU.
LSU. Will Howell. What's Will Campbell? The only, the only knock playing about him having
short arms. I don't, I think that really has nothing to do with it being able to play the
Did his arms shrink when he was in college? after he got out of college? Yeah, he kept pancake and everybody exactly. That's what I don't understand a guy performed very well in college
And then you find fault with him. Yeah, but oh he got short arms. Oh his feet, but he did something
Something that you even consider him right?
You know what I did I think oh Joe I think a lot of times they like they try to find what's wrong with you as opposed to what's right.
But I get it. I gotta kick the tires. I gotta do a full inspection of what's going on.
Because I'm investing a lot of money in you. These first three, four, five players, they're getting fully guaranteed contracts.
Fully.
Fully. So...
Will Campbell yeah I don't think anybody's surprised with that considering
the moves that they made in the offseason step on digs the wide
receiver they got went to a got a big defensive tackle from the Eagles pay
a premium for him they got Gonzales at corner I'm not surprised. Let's protect. The quarterback. Let's protect. Unlike him. Yeah I don't. Now I think the fourth, the
fourth, the top four picks I think the only order I don't I don't think there's
really any surprise I thought Kam would go number one.
If Cleveland had stayed at two, I believe they were going to take Shadour.
The Giants was always going to take Abdul Carter if he was available.
As we started getting closer to the draft, we started hearing about Will Kam into the
Patriots.
Now, with the fifth pick, because Jacksonville traded with Cleveland, where does Cleveland
go now?
Well, Nick Chubb is not there, right?
Right.
Nick Chubb is gone.
What about Shadour?
I like it.
I like it.
That was a toss up though.
Can it be Shadour?
Can you find, can you go to the running back position?
Ashland?
Five is just a half for a running back.
But look, I get the resurgence.
You saw what Saquon did.
You saw what Doug Henry did.
You saw what Josh Jacobs did.
You saw, you know, you saw Jameer Gibbs, Joe Mixon.
There are a lot of guys that have success and the running back all of a sudden now is
in both.
Yes.
Certain running backs.
And isn't the type of running back that you don't want to pass up that you can take at the fifth pick because it can do
so much for you. Yeah the second most rushed yards in college history. Yes. 26
over 2600 yards finished about 25 28 27 yards behind what Barry did. Right. It's
a little high for me but if you believe he's the guy you take it. Yeah, you take it I
Like but I think we're all in the grids that will will Campbell is gonna be the fourth pick of the draft New England
Commission's walking to the
Commission's walking to the podium now
Just pull the TV up where this was a little delay that was
Is will Campbell will cap, okay This was on a delay. That was... It's Will Campbell. Will Campbell.
Okay.
That's...
Will Campbell.
JT?
Jadur?
How you know?
Hey, what did they say to the green one?
What we got?
What do we got?
Hey, Mason Graham.
Oh, the D-Tac from Michigan.
He nice.
He nice. He's nice.
Okay. We got a guest coming. We got a guest joining us out here in about five
minutes. The human joystick. Dante Hall, the great returner from Kansas City, punt
and kick returner. Tremendous slot receiver. 6'5", 319. His arms are short, you can see that.
But look at this, let's see.
But look how he plays.
Great balance.
Kick step.
Great, doesn't overextend.
Ooh, look at that.
Wow, I like that.
Okay, kick, let's see what he got on Joe.
Oh, pass it off, oh I like that.
I like that, drop it, look at him sit down. Good anchor down. Look at him sit down on this. Oh, pass it off. Oh, I like that. I like this. Drop it.
Look at him sit down.
Good anchor down.
Look at him sit down on this.
Oh, no.
Oh, my goodness.
I love it.
OK, let's see.
Let's see how he snapped this off on Joe.
Ooh.
Oh, get him.
Oh, yes.
That's kind of luck.
Oh, yeah.
Look at him climb.
He nice. Look at this, I like his base.
Powerful hands, in.
But they complain about his arm being too short.
Hey, look at that, you see how he's strong
with that outside hand?
Yes, sir.
Because he knows I can't let you spin back inside.
If you run around this block,
you're not gonna be able to get there
because it's an inside run.
He's strong with this, look at this.
Get his feet inside, keep driving. Oh, oh!
Pancake. Hey! That's a full stack of pancakes right there. And I like the suit. I like that. I like, hey, I like the cash look. Hey, I like the sneakers. He won me over. I like this.
I like, I like this. I guess everybody getting away from lifting the commission up,
they would have had a great run. It's coming. You think it's coming back? It's coming. It's coming. Will Campbell. I see you got the Pepsi on. I like this
pick on you. It's a good one. Look you got Drake May. Drake May is your money. You
need something to protect your money. You need security. You've got to protect
your money. You've got to protect your investment. So I like this pick, yup. Look at Braves.
Look, I think the Patriots, look,
we might not agree that the coach didn't have enough time. Right.
But look,
Braves was not gonna be available next year.
No.
So you had to make a move.
Gotta make a move. And plus, hey,
Mayo got, he got four more years on that contract. Hey, I ain't looking for a job. Good. Yeah.
That's going to make very interesting for the AFC East to see if the the Patriots can get back to
competing at a high level the way they used to. Now I'm not sure how far off they are from competing
or continuing against the Bills.
Bills, yeah.
Well this is the start.
Yeah.
You gotta crawl, listen, you gotta crawl before you walk.
How much better in year two with Drake may be than year one?
Because Josh Allen is your MVP.
Yeah.
So we know he's cream of the crop.
Yeah.
He's tier one, okay? Two Tua can he stay healthy yes that's that is probably the most important
question can Tua stay healthy and then the Jets the Jets got Justin Fields
Wait, the pick is in already? Brown's pick is in.
What we got?
Howard?
Big boy?
D-Takker from Michigan.
Michigan.
Yeah, I'm not, I'm, I thought Shadour might sneak in here at five.
Right.
Now, it's about to get interesting.
Hold on, the Raiders are at six, right?
Yeah.
Okay.
So I was right.
I was right.
I like, you know, look, I really like this pick because, you know, they got some, they
got good running backs, not great in New England.
They got good.
But I think the main thing is you want protection for Drake May.
That's the guy.
You gotta protect him and allow him to throw the ball
down the field.
Yeah, because if you can, especially in today's game,
which is pass oriented,
everything's about throwing the ball.
You gotta be able to protect him.
You gotta be able to protect him.
I like the Stefan Diggs.
I like that signing.
We'll see how close he is week one.
They might put him on the puck, and he has to work the pickers in.
What we got? What we got on Joe? Mason Graham? Yeah, they're going big boys from Michigan.
Wow. You're a hell of a player, man.
He's good.
He's good.
Really good.
Well, pairing him with Miles Garrett being a destructor up in the middle, being able
to stop obviously and disrupt obviously some of those teams in AFC
and then the Ravens, Bengals. Yeah I like the fact that Miles
Garrett can get to the quarterback but I like the fact that I got a big guy inside
to stop him hitting me up the middle. That's a good one. 6'95. He plays with great pad level. Yeah. I mean he has tremendous.
Look at. Oh. Good move. Good move. He twitching that. Yeah look at this. He plays with great
pad level. Look at this. Press. Oh snap. I got you. Let me get that. You see that. Oh Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, Look at this. Boom. Oh.
Straight bull power.
They showed three different cutups on Joe.
I've seen three different moves.
I've seen the snatch rip and I've seen the straight bull.
He got a nice little bag on him now.
He does.
He's got a nice little bag on him.
And the silly thing is why I like defensive tackles like this, because they're closer to the quarterback than the edge
rusher.
So he's two yards away from the quarterback.
The guard's got to be really special to deal with him,
because Aaron Donahead had a bag like that.
Yeah, he's not Aaron Donahead.
But I'm just saying, I saw three snaps,
I saw three cut-ups, Ocho, and I saw three different moves. But also what we saw obviously in college, he was one-on-one most of the time.
Yes.
Most of the time with him being that boy, he's gonna get double teamed now.
Hold on, you wanna double him or you wanna double Miles Garrett?
That's a good one, that's a good one.
Jente to the Raiders?
How you know?
I got a little, we got a little birdie in the green room.
It's uh...
Mason Graham.
He got, what you call him, man, he got, I like him.
I like his pit coat joke.
Yeah, a lot.
I like his pit.
I mean, watching him on those cut-ups.
When you watch film, you always want to stand out.
Yes, yes.
And when you watch film and see these picks that are going high, you understand why they
went high.
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
I don't think anybody's surprised this pick.
But now once we get past Genty, because there's been a lot of talk over the last, say, three
to four days about Genty going to the Raiders.
So him going to the Raiders, I don't think that's going to shock a whole lot of people.
Brady wants to protect Gino.
Wire receiver, who, look, they got Brock Bowers.
They got one, two or three best tighties in all of football.
Right.
But you need somebody on the outside, though, to take some pressure off you.
I like, like, I like Brother McMillan from Arizona State.
He ain't gonna be there with you, cause you got only one pick.
If you take Gentie, you're not gonna be able to get McMillan.
I don't think he's sliding out of the first round.
He nice.
Big target. How much time we got on the clock Ash?
We got five minutes still. Look I don't I think it's gonna be Gentie. I heard a
lot I mean over the last the last four or five days there's been a lot of talk
about Gentie they got a, they extended Gino.
I like Brock Bauer with the tight end position.
They need a running back.
They lost Josh Jacobs, he came here,
they saw the type of season that he had.
I think it's gonna be a running back.
Hey, look, it's a copycat league.
Look it up, basically all the teams
that had an outstanding running back,
they win the playoffs.
They did well.
As did Genting. Basically all the teams that had an outstanding running back right there with the playoffs. We will Ask the jitty
It's not
Everything I'll just think about it. No, you're top your top four five running back, right?
fake one one to super bowl
Derek Henry in the playoffs Joe mixing in the playoffs are Josh Jacobs in the playoffs. I'm here gil in the playoffs, Josh Jacobs in the playoffs, Jameer Gibbs in the playoffs,
Copycat League, hey, let's go get a running back.
And also,
when I think about it, what the Raiders are doing also,
I don't see any premier
receivers on their team. No.
What can we do? How can we help Gino Smith
give you a running back like this
that takes some of the pressure off of you
for the lack of production that we're going to get on the outside.
I like it. I like this pick but boy hey they gotta get
some receivers now. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know if there's any receivers left on the
free-engine market okay but maybe I'm going heavy. Yeah. Second, third round I'm
going receiver. You gotta get something in there for Gino to throw to him. Yeah I third round I'm going to receive it.
You gotta get something in there for Gino to throw to him. You got to.
I agree.
Woo hoo.
He can run with power, got great speed, tremendous balance.
Nice dip arm.
Great visual, run through contact.
I like it.
I like his style though, Joe.
He's got it straight up.
And the funny thing, some people were talking about the level of competition that he plays
against is not high, but when it came time to play in some of the big schools.
He played against Oregon,
he went for almost 200 on over.
Did the same thing,
regards to the competition he played against.
Yeah, I think the thing is, Ocho, look,
he's gonna have better teammates around him.
Oh yeah, well definitely.
Than what he had at Boise State,
and that's not the discount, Boise State,
but you know, Brock Bowers is better,
the tight end that he had, the quarterback, Gino is better than the tight end that he had the wire the quarterback
You know is better than the quarterback. He had right so he has better players around him
I think he'll do a lot better
But obviously the defense is he's going to get is gonna be a lot better than the defense a lot faster
I like it. I like this big very good pick
Who's on the clock at 7 as As you go to the clock, Jets. Uh oh, Jets. Wait, they already got Justin Fields. You got Justin Fields.
I only got him for two years. What you taking? If you the Jets, what you taking? Got Gary Wilson.
Got Gary Wilson. Oh my goodness. Is there a tight end? You got Tyler Warren rated that high?
Oh my goodness. Is there a tight end? You got Tyler Warren rated that high? He does. Oh. For tight end. He nice. That'd be a nice addition. You like Tyler Warren? I do like
him. I don't know if the Jets like him at six. That's too high huh? Yeah I think somewhere in the teens. Right.
Uh-huh. Who we got? Who's going seven?
No, I mean Jeff got the seventh pick. Well, Jente. Jente got great balance.
He got better speed than you think, Ocho.
Yeah.
He about the same height as Emmett.
I think he might be a little faster than Emmett.
You think so?
Emmett, yeah, but Emmett had tremendous balance.
Think of Emmett.
Emmett, you can put the ball in one hand,
that's fast you can go, bro.
Yeah. Pick it up. You can put the ball in one hand as fast you can go, bro.
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