Club Shay Shay - Nightcap - Hour 1: Notre Dame wins, Dabo gets embarrassed, Ricky Pearsall shot

Episode Date: September 1, 2024

Shannon Sharpe and Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson react to Notre Dame vs. Texas A&M, Dabo Swinney's future after Georgia demolishes Clemson, Arch Manning's first TDs as Texas blows out Colorado State, M...iami defeating Florida, and much more from the opening weekend of the College Football season. Later, Unc & Ocho react to the latest updates on San Francisco 49ers rookie Ricky Pearsall's condition after being shot in a robbery, and much more!04:44 - Notre Dame beats Texas A&M16:00 - Georgia Blows out Clemson32:22 - Miami beats Florida39:00 - Travis Hunter play both ways?57:41 - Ricky Pearsall shot in attempted robbery(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:05:43 Ocho, let's go. College Football Saturday is officially back. It's 20% off. Ocho, let's go. College football Saturday is officially back. The game just went off. Number seven, Notre Dame went on the road. Tucked down number 20, Texas A&M. 23-13, Jeremiah Love's touchdown with less than two minutes to go. Put Notre Dame on top. The defense held.
Starting point is 00:06:01 Kick a late field goal, and they win by 10. Marcus Freeman and Notre Dame make a national statement on opening night. talk the defense hell kick a late field goal and they win by 10 marcus freeman and notre dame make a national statement on opening night the defense was outstanding all game long the offense delivered in the clutch when they absolutely had to have it and that's the mark of any great team then you get done what you need to get done when you absolutely positively have to and that's what they were able to do get a touchdown late get a stop late on defense and they go on the road and get a win national televised game in a hostile environment Ocho what did you like about what you saw from Notre Dame listen I enjoyed it I enjoyed it not only
Starting point is 00:06:36 from Notre Dame but I also enjoyed it from Texas A&M the game was exciting throughout from the beginning to the finish again like you said could you get it done when you need it the most? The game of football, whether it's at the collegiate level or whether it's at the NFL level, it's all about moments. And doing what you need to get done in those moments. And that's what Notre Dame was able to do on the road in front of a hostile environment of 107,000 at that stadium. But it was exciting. I'm not sure if... I'm trying to figure out how do I say it.
Starting point is 00:07:09 Would it be in the first game? Teams just getting out there, getting adjusted to the speed of the game. Again, you could practice as much as you want. Is it a measuring stick or a guideline to where Notre Dame is? Probably not. Being that they were very successful last season,
Starting point is 00:07:27 they had a great year. Texas A&M had an okay season last year. I think they'll be fine. But it's a good win for them, especially to be able to do it on the road. I don't think Texas A&M is in a good spot. That quarterback is going to have to play much better than what he played.
Starting point is 00:07:44 And the days of being able to play outstanding defense, outstanding special teams, and cover up your quarterback, those days are long gone. It doesn't matter the level anymore. You used to play outstanding defense, play great special teams, and you can get away with
Starting point is 00:07:59 marginal quarterback play. Those days are over. We see it now. When you have a quarterback, you can win. It doesn't matter where the location is. On the road, neutral site, or at home. You cannot hide your quarterback. You can hide every other
Starting point is 00:08:15 position on the field. You can hide it. I can roll coverage to protect my corners. I can make sure to safety stay back and shell coverage. I can stunt. I can do a lot of different things. Offensive line, I can slide the line one way or the other.
Starting point is 00:08:30 I can send it back, says I need you to chip your way out before you go out. I can put a wide receiver in motion to help him get off press. What do I do with the quarterback when he has to touch the ball on every single play?
Starting point is 00:08:43 Unless you don't, but I'm saying 90% of the time, your quarterback is going to touch the ball on every single play, unless you're the wildcat. But I'm saying 90% of the time, your quarterback is going to touch the ball. And the days when you're trying to run the ball, Ocho, 50 times a game and win it. Nah, nah, it's not going to happen. But this is the thing.
Starting point is 00:08:57 This is the thing when it comes to Texas A&M. When you have subpar quarterback play, like we witnessed tonight, that means those around the quarterback have to be that much better than he is. And that's coming from, I'm talking about from a receiver standpoint, they have to be that much greater.
Starting point is 00:09:12 And they don't just have that at Texas A&M yet. Because if they did, it would have showed up tonight. The game, I don't think the game would have been as close as it was tonight. They played outstanding defense. Yeah, they played defense. Texas A&M played good defense. Notre Dame played good defense. But the one thing that could have
Starting point is 00:09:28 separated Texas A&M and the Knights if they had, I don't want to use the word elite receivers. I mean five-star receivers that could actually take over a goddamn game. And that is the only thing that could save you from subpar quarterback. They could have had Randy Moss. That's it. They could have had Jerry Rice. They could have had T.O.
Starting point is 00:09:44 They could have had Megatron. With the way that quarterback played tonight none of that was gonna help yeah the way he was sailing the ball over the head the way he was throwing the ball in the dirt nah ain't no bailing out now i'm willing to give them the somewhat of the benefit of the doubt to say it was the first game but he's gonna have to play exponentially better moving forward yeah than what he played tonight. No joke. Because think about it now. Even SEC. Georgia.
Starting point is 00:10:09 Alabama. Texas. Ole Miss. Rah. Oklahoma. Every week. Listen, every week. Yes!
Starting point is 00:10:18 Ain't no days off. Ain't no weeks off. Every week you're going to have to bring it. LSU. Tennessee. That's what you're up against. You think you're going to trot that quarterback out there with the way that, for the most part,
Starting point is 00:10:31 a lot of these teams in the SEC play defense. You think you're going to trot that out there and you're going to win a game? Nah, bro. Nah, they're going to feast, bro. They're going to eat you up. Do you think they made the right decision on who they wanted to start at quarterback?
Starting point is 00:10:46 Well, I think, hold on. When you look at it, you go through a whole spring training, Ocho. You have offseason conditions. You come back in the training camp. So clearly, he must have been the best guy for the job. You don't really know. I mean, some guys, you know, we've seen it. Guys play really well in spring ball.
Starting point is 00:11:05 Guys play really well coming back and then getting the game and they don't play so well. So let's give them the benefit of the doubt. I don't know a whole lot about the kid. I'm watching it intently, just like everybody else is. But I know this. That's what got Jimbo up out of there. And if your quarterback don't play them, now
Starting point is 00:11:21 Texas A&M got deep pockets. That's all money. They got deep pockets. That's all money. They got real deep pockets. Yeah, the NIL real deep. That's why it shouldn't be any issues. It shouldn't be any issues to compete at a high level. That's what I'm saying. Because of your pockets, because you have an advantage that other schools don't have.
Starting point is 00:11:38 It doesn't matter how much stock you have if the stock ain't worth an inch. You can buy all the stocks you want to, but if you don't buy the right stock. So you can spend money on players, but if you don't get the right players, I think Coach Saban said something about that today. Like they said, Ohio State have a $20 million team. Coach
Starting point is 00:11:58 Saban said it don't matter if you don't spend it on the right players. Well, we know Texas A&M got deep pockets. That's got oil money i didn't go back to generations but we've seen it before they had the number one recruiting class and what did it get for nothing so it doesn't matter how much money you spend it only matters if you spend the money on the right things right players yeah and so that's what they're that's what uh uh texas a&m ojo is going to be up again the answer know with the SEC, year in and year out,
Starting point is 00:12:27 they send more players to the NFL than any other conference. It is what it is. Whether you like it or not, Michigan notwithstanding won the national championship. But look at Alabama. Look at Georgia. Look at the teams over the last 20 years what conference probably 15 of the 20 national
Starting point is 00:12:48 championships that was won over the last 20 years have come from that conference first rounders total draft picks come from that conference so you're going to have to get better at that position because everybody look the talent is there Texas A&M got talent now So you're going to have to get better at that position.
Starting point is 00:13:07 Because everybody, look, the talent is there. Texas A&M got talent now. They got some four stars, some five stars. Are they Georgia? No. Are they Alabama? No. But they got talented players. But it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter if your quarterback can't get them the ball.
Starting point is 00:13:22 They're going to have to be better. I like what I saw from Notre Dame. You know, Notre Dame, Marcus Freeman, he cut his teeth on the defensive side of football. They always play very, very good defense. And when they need to have it, you see the quarterback was cluing. I thought it was the slot.
Starting point is 00:13:40 He had a terrible job. He's got to make the corner. You can't give him a straight line. Did you not see the Super Bowl? If you give a DB a straight line, all he's got to do is backpedal. He's cool. He's playing off. He knows. This is what he knows, Ocho.
Starting point is 00:13:55 Now, I'm going to two by two. The slot receiver released straight up the field. What the hell? I think the outside receiver running. A go around or a slant. A slant. Now, if he runs a double move, coach is going to tell you. Son, if he runs a double move, that's on me.
Starting point is 00:14:10 That's on me. That's on me. Yeah. But when he breaks, you drive as hard as God will let you. He should have picked it. Yeah. That's what he should have did. He should have picked it.
Starting point is 00:14:23 So you study. I'm looking. Oh, you bubbling like that? Oh, this guy here, he ain't running no goal because if he was running the goal, you'd have kept a straight stem, but you bubbled. But you didn't bubble enough to credit. You got to make me bubble so I don't have a straight line
Starting point is 00:14:39 to jet that ball. Yep. But give Notre Dame credit. I'm looking at their schedule. Ocho, they all can. They go on the road. They beat Texas A&M. I don't think they got but like three road games
Starting point is 00:14:53 unless there's some neutral site games in there. I think they're at Purdue. Right. And I think they're at someone else. I'm not sure. Maybe USC. I think USC. Don't quote me on that, but I think so.
Starting point is 00:15:04 But when you look at that schedule, they have a very favorable matchup the rest of the way. Now, we know things happen, but they're going to be favored. I believe they'll be favored in every single game. Now, Georgia Tech is a little tricky, but they do get Tech at home. But, man, it is set up for Georgia Tech. Excuse me. Excuse me.
Starting point is 00:15:25 But Notre Dame, their schedule is really favorable, Ocho. Yeah, most definitely, most definitely. They're going to be all right. Texas A&M is now 1-9 when being featured on College Game Day. They're saying, don't y'all bring y'all ass back. Ocho, Notre Dame is 1-0. They got Northern Illinois. They got at Purdue, Miami of Ohio,
Starting point is 00:15:50 Louisville at home, Stanford at home, Georgia Tech. Oh, Georgia Tech is at the Mercedes-Benz Dome. Navy is at MetLife, which is in Jersey. Florida State at home. Virginia at home. Army at Yankee Stadium and at 23 USC.
Starting point is 00:16:08 So they'll be favored in a large chunk of those games, probably every single one of those games. Maybe not Tech. It's going to be close. I still think they'll be. Listen, listen, I thought the same thing. Georgia Tech beat Florida State, right? Yeah, Georgia Tech beat Florida State. If there's going to be a challenge somewhere down the line,
Starting point is 00:16:24 unless Florida State gets their stuff together later on in the season maybe that might be a challenge of some sort but i think based on the schedule you just told me the only challenge that notre dame might have might be georgia tech might be georgia tech especially coming in with that kind of confidence beating the florida state that most people even myself thought florida state should run away with it. I'm thinking, you know, Florida State, a few four-star, five-star players, a school like that that gets some of the elite talent, especially from the Florida area, should beat a Georgia Tech team.
Starting point is 00:16:57 Obviously, that didn't happen. So if Notre Dame is going to have a scare or a game that's going to be good, it would be that one against Georgia Tech. The number one ranked Georgia Bulldogs seem to be in peak condition already as they dropped the hammer on Clemson in the Mercedes-Benz Dome. Ocho, I remember a decade ago, Dabo Sweeney said that if players started getting paid, he would exit. His ass still there.
Starting point is 00:17:24 Yeah, what are you waiting for? I think he understood. Listen, this is one of the same reasons Nick Saban probably won't say it. This is one of the same reasons why Nick Saban, I think he left. He left. Davos Sweeney said it ahead of time without really saying it, understanding that the
Starting point is 00:17:39 playing field, yeah, it evens. You're at a disadvantage unless you open up your pocketbook. And Daryl Sweeney understood that. Nick Saban understood that.
Starting point is 00:17:50 And he said, you know what? I'm waving my white flag. I'm going to let somebody else take over from now on. Check this out. He's going to have to come to the conclusion,
Starting point is 00:18:00 the realization he's going to have to have an epiphany, which is a realization that if you don't get paid, if you don't get the transfer portal, you ain't winning. Yeah. You got to win.
Starting point is 00:18:10 That's the only way you're going to win. That's the only way you're going to compete now. I don't know who the boosters are over in Clemson. They got them. That is the only way you're going to compete with the better team. That's the only way you're going to compete with the Alabamas. Only way you're going to compete with the LSUs. Only way you're going to compete with the Georgians.
Starting point is 00:18:24 Ohio State, the Michigan, all those big top-notch teams. Yeah. Clemson is one of four teams. Navy, Army, Air Force, they don't accept transfer, a disservice academy, that didn't land a transfer. Didn't.
Starting point is 00:18:41 Hey, Dabo, you said when they started playing players, you were going to exit stage left. I remember, hey, you know another guy? Coach K said, I don't do that. One and done, no, that ain't me. Until he started doing one and done. If you can't beat them, join them.
Starting point is 00:18:55 Dabo. Yeah, you ain't got no choice. You ain't got no choice. You're not that good. You got no choice. You're not that good, buddy. You're not that good. If you think you're just going to get high school seniors,
Starting point is 00:19:05 and that's what you're going to win with, bro, it's over. It is over. Everybody else is doing it. Look at the top 10 teams. And I was reading the thing, I think it was the New York Times, Ochoa, telling you what it costs to get a top knock.
Starting point is 00:19:22 You're paying $700,000, $800,000 for a quarterback. You're paying $400,000, $500,000 for a quarterback. You're paying $400,000, $500,000 for a receiver. You're paying $400,000, $500,000 for a defensive lineman. Can't beat them, join them. Dabble has to understand it is now a business. It is now a business, so we need you
Starting point is 00:19:39 to evolve as the business model of collegiate football is evolving. And that is the only way you're going to continue to compete. I mean, the only way you're going to be able to continue to compete is just a slight adjustment. You got to adapt. You got to adapt with everything
Starting point is 00:19:56 else. You have to adapt, and that's the only way. Listen, he has a buyout clause. It's goddamn $60 million. $24, $57, and $26. Man, come on now. And listen, is goddamn $60 million. 2024, 57, and 26. Shit. Man. Come on now. And listen,
Starting point is 00:20:09 it's not a bad thing, though. You have to stand. Clemson, they play Georgia. Yeah. They play Georgia. This is the best team in college football. Is this a measuring stick
Starting point is 00:20:19 for how good Clemson is or how bad Clemson may be? Probably not. They went 9-4 last year, Joe. This is not a game I want to gauge on how may be? Probably not. They went 9-4 last year, Ojo. This is not a game I want to gauge on how good we are right now. They went 9-4 last year. That was the first time since 2010 they didn't win 10 games. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:35 Hold on. You mean to tell me Georgia, Alabama, Ohio State, Michigan, all the top 10 teams can go in the portal, but you think you good enough not to? Yeah. I mean, you ain't gonna have no choice. I'm trying to think of something right, though, Joe.
Starting point is 00:20:53 Yeah. You ain't gonna have no choice. I remember the time, guess what? When them PWIs wouldn't touch a black kid. Oh, yeah. USC said, y'all don't want him we go get him and then USC went down there beat the brakes off Alabama when Sam Bale went down there
Starting point is 00:21:11 and they drug Alabama yeah takes one to catch one guess what happened Ocho with Al Davis they didn't want to take HBCU players Al Davis says okay I'm going to go on up here and get me a couple of them. A lot of the
Starting point is 00:21:28 players that's in the Pro Football Hall of Fame come from HBCU. HBCU, yeah. So, Dabo can do all this. He can get on his pulpit and preach and pontificate all he wants to. Oh, I'm going to leave if they start. You ain't got no player. He had no
Starting point is 00:21:44 problem. Every time Clemson give him a boost, he make it seven. He make it eight. He make it ten. He make it eleven. He ain't got no problem. Oh, the players, this is college. Man, shut up. The players finna get that money. Get it.
Starting point is 00:22:00 Get it. And don't y'all go to Clemson unless they pay top dollar. Yeah. Listen, if you want to win times have changed you got to adapt to your surroundings you got to evolve just like technology same way the game has changed either you get with it you get gone it's really that simple it's simple but georgia look good georgia look georgia look uh the quarterback is unbelievable we know georgia's littered with four
Starting point is 00:22:33 and five star recruits over the last five or six years at least since kirby has gotten there they're gonna have to have a top five recruiting class he knows how to get players he knows how to build a team he was with coach saving Saban for up-team years. He gets to go back to his alma mater. He's won two national championships, played for a couple of minutes in the college football playoffs. He lost a heartbreaker to Coach Saban when
Starting point is 00:22:56 he went to and through that touchdown in overtime. But this team, they're prime. They look really, really good. We know they're going to play very good defense. They got a quarterback in Beck that's been a starter in the second year. They're going to be tough. They're going to be a tough out now.
Starting point is 00:23:12 I'm not going to put all my eggs and say, okay, but they're going to be right there. Yeah. You think this game, as far as Davos Sweeney is concerned, that Clemson should be thinking about moving on from him after this season? But I'm sure that's why the first thing I said,
Starting point is 00:23:30 I don't really want to judge Davos Sweeney and the Clemson Tigers as the measuring stick going against goddamn Georgia. That's kind of unfair. Oh, sure. There ain't a whole lot of – That's kind of unfair. Could there? Yes.
Starting point is 00:23:43 But everybody ain't got that Texas A&M money when they tell a Jimbo here we got 70 million go ahead and go home ah everybody can't write no 70 million dollar check and say go home right right right
Starting point is 00:24:00 but Clemson got they got some boosters but they ain't got it like A&M A&M got they got some boosters, but they ain't got it like A&M. A&M got deep pockets. No, I don't think it's time for Dabble to go. I just think he's going to have to adapt. The greatest key to survival is adaptability, and he's going to have to adapt his way of thinking,
Starting point is 00:24:26 thinking that he can just get high school seniors to come in. Those days are over. You got guys that are all conference, that are all Americans leaving. We've never seen that before. Addison. Addison was the Belinda Cup Award winner, and then he gets the NIL, and he goes to USC. USC.
Starting point is 00:24:41 So you see guys, all conference players, like, such and such, they got $500,000, $600,000. What you see guys, all conference players. Like, hey, such and such, they ain't got five, six hundred thousand for me. What you got, bro? Oh, you ain't got it? Don't worry about it. I'll holla at you. Yeah, hey. I'll holla at you.
Starting point is 00:24:56 Ain't no more, hey. In today's game, ain't no more projects. Not when I'm five star. Ain't no project. We might start off in the project but it ain't gonna be hey mom don't worry about it I'm gonna get us out of here
Starting point is 00:25:13 cause I'm gonna go ahead and do what I need to do my freshman year and if they don't break bread to get us out of here I know somebody that will I'm out of here and I don't blame them I really don't blame these players. You know what I like about the NIL? Those that come from struggle,
Starting point is 00:25:31 those that come from unfortunate circumstance, depending on how good you are at an early age, you can kind of speed up the curve as being able to take care of your family and get them out of, you know what, unfortunate circumstances. I like that part of the NIL, as opposed to the coaches
Starting point is 00:25:52 complaining about it being an unfair advantage when it comes to the playing field being even as far as competing. I like the other side of it. All the NIL deal is legal pay. They continue to do that.
Starting point is 00:26:05 Hell, Alabama had nothing but challenges and charges in that parking lot. So you mean to tell me every damn body love a challenger and a charge? Don't nobody like Ford? Don't nobody like no Corvette? Mustang? Don't nobody like that?
Starting point is 00:26:23 So you go there, you like challenges and charges. Yeah. Come on, man. They've been doing it. They've been doing it. I ain't got no problem with the players making that money. Oh, no it ain't.
Starting point is 00:26:39 I ain't no amateur. Because I see the stadium field up there and a lot of them got my jersey jersey, got my jersey number on. Nah, bro. That ain't gonna happen. I'm gonna get some of that. Let me get some of that. Yeah.
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Starting point is 00:31:41 and he also rushed for a touchdown. Manning, the number one recruit in 2023 class, came in late in the game with the Longhorns leading 38-0 and led two scoring drives. Ocho, what you thinking? I mean, it's expected.
Starting point is 00:31:58 Texas playing Colorado State, you expecting that? You know, Quinn Evers had a really good game. He was 20 for 27, 260, three TDs, an unfortunate bad decision interception. Other than that, it was good. Because they played so goddamn
Starting point is 00:32:13 well, 52-zip, blowout, archman, they got to get his feet wet a little bit. Get out there and see what it's like. Because he's next up in line. You talk about NIL money? What you think he's going to get? Because of that last name. What you mean? Who gonna get?
Starting point is 00:32:26 He already getting three million a year? I mean, oh, that's gonna be, it's gonna be way, man, listen, by the time he get to, what, sophomore, junior year? It's gonna be way more than that. Oh, sure. He making three million right now
Starting point is 00:32:36 and on the bench. Hey. Hey, that last name alone is gonna command way more than that by the time you get to the junior year yeah oh yeah for sure yeah but i mean listen it's it's texas it's it's expected you know especially against colorado state i'm not sure i don't have their schedule right here in front of me i'm not sure at what point it will get testy for number four texas but Texas. But they look good. They look good. They did.
Starting point is 00:33:06 They did. First game playing in the SEC. And they did what they're supposed to do when you play an inferior opponent. You're supposed to drive them. Dominate. That's what you're supposed to do. Don't be satisfied with just winning. Just skating by.
Starting point is 00:33:22 You dominate them. You let them know that you're not on our level. It gives you a sense of confidence. This is how we play. How we do some things is how we do everything. The opponent does not matter. The only thing that matters is how we play. If we play the way we play, good things will happen,
Starting point is 00:33:40 and more times than not, we're going to have the type of victories that we had today. Not necessarily 52 to nothing, but when you play well, it gives you the confidence that you can play well against anyone. I know Colorado State is an inferior opponent, but I need to know that I don't play down to my opponent. The standard is the standard, don't you? Yeah, it got to stay there and that's one of the
Starting point is 00:34:06 things that's one of the things hey listen that's one of the things that a lot of people have issues with especially when it comes to collegiate football sometimes you play down to your opponent you relax a little bit no you don't step on the gas all the way keep keep your throat or keep your throat keep your foot on the throat as my coach used to say keep your throat on, keep your throat. Keep your foot on the throat. As my coach used to say, keep your throat on that goddamn neck. No, keep your foot on the neck. Oh, my bad. What did I say? Keep your throat on the neck.
Starting point is 00:34:30 But we got the idea of what you're trying to say. Yeah, that ain't making no sense. My bad. Don't worry about it, Coach. Yeah, but that's what you do. I just believe in that, like, the standard. And people are like, they won, they won. Man, I'm telling you, I believe that I
Starting point is 00:34:47 kill a gnat with a sledgehammer. Yeah. Doesn't matter who I'm playing. Because, see, I do you a favor, Ocho. When I beat him at you, I let you know your team is not where it needs to be. See, if I beat you by a late second field goal or the game is close, you go in there and tell your players,
Starting point is 00:35:03 oh, that team right there, if we play with them tooth and nail. Nah. is close, you go in there and tell your players, oh, that team right there, and we played with them tooth and nail. Nah, I want you to go in there, hey, that's a great team over there. There's nothing to be ashamed about. Yeah, there is. We drub you. That means, hey, you need to go get better players
Starting point is 00:35:19 and you know to go get better coaches to coach them up because that's what we do. We kick ass, we take names. You know, to go get better coaches to coach him up. Because that's what we do. We kick ass. We take names. So, the SEC also announced the horns down will not be a penalty in the SEC.
Starting point is 00:35:37 SEC coordinator of football, John McDade, said, if you took the act out of the football stadium and did it in the shopping mall or grocery store, would it offend the majority of the reasonable people in the area? That signal would not. You might have some people that share the signal with you. What about the horns down? Are they going to do the horns down? Is that a penalty? I think everything is good.
Starting point is 00:35:57 I think everything's good. I think all is fair in love and war. All is fair in love and war. They make a play, horns down. You make a play and you down. You make a play and you play for Texas? Shit. Motherfucking horns up. It's simple. That's a part of the
Starting point is 00:36:14 game. It's okay. It's okay. Number 19, Miami. Bleak goes to Gainesville and beats Florida. 41-17. That was embarrassing.
Starting point is 00:36:33 The U, 529 total yards, 385 passing, 144 rushing. They had 25 first downs. University of Florida, they had 261 total yards. They had 122 passing, 139 rushing. 17, they had two turnovers. Time of possession, almost 10 minutes in favor. Actually, it was nine minutes on the head in favor of the U. Yeah. Hey, listen, I don't know what's wrong with Florida. I don't know what's wrong with Florida.
Starting point is 00:36:57 Because at one point, there were three teams that dominated the college football level. Florida State, Miami, and FSU. I'm talking about in the 2000s. Now, the Miami I saw today, I'm not saying it's the Miami reminiscent of the early 2000s. You know, the Ray Lewis's, the Andre Johnson's, the Santana
Starting point is 00:37:20 Moss's, the Roscoe Parrish's, the Ed Reed's. I'm not saying they're that. Absolutely not. I'm not saying they that. Absolutely not. I'm not saying they that. But I like what I saw from them today. I like what I saw from them today. Against not an inferior opponent, this was the Gators now.
Starting point is 00:37:35 This was the Gators. They ain't got no teeth, though. They ain't got no teeth, though, Ocho. These little baby Gators. They got baby Gators. They ain't got no teeth. though, Ocho. These little baby gators. They got baby gators. These baby gators. They ain't got no teeth. Little baby gators?
Starting point is 00:37:48 Their teeth ain't in yet. Hey, listen. This is good for... Listen, I'm from Miami. Yeah. I didn't have an opportunity to go to the University of Miami. I didn't have the grades to get in there, you know? Rightfully so.
Starting point is 00:38:00 I would have loved to do it, but I wasn't able to do it. I am a fan of the program. Always have been. Remember back in the days, going to the... When Dennis Erickson was the head coach at UM, I was at the camps. I was at camps every summer. And that was my relationship to having a love and always wanting to go there. But again, listen, I was a knucklehead in high school coming out. I ain't had the grades to do it.
Starting point is 00:38:21 But the UM I saw today against Florida, I like it. It gives those here in Miami, it gives us hope. It gives us hope that we can compete and we can contend. Maybe not for a national championship, but it lets us know we're going in the right motherfucking direction. Ocho, Cam McCormick scored the Hurricanes' first touchdown of the year. He's a 26-year-old tight end in his ninth year of eligibility. You heard me correctly. tight end in his ninth year of eligibility you heard me correctly he's in his ninth year of eligibility between that explain between the red shirt and multiple
Starting point is 00:38:52 serious injuries mccormick has extended his college career far far beyond what is norm i've heard of guys doing five maybe six normally because you know you don't show you red shirt you're a fifth year senior sometimes i've seen guys you know have a couple of medical red shirts okay medical issues and they're six nine he went yeah he was in the same recruiting class about as justin herbert well. Oh, but listen. Unfortunate circumstance. Injuries. So, I understand.
Starting point is 00:39:32 Will he get an opportunity to play at the next level? Yeah, they about to start drawing some security. What are you doing playing at the next level, man? He might go get a job and start a family. 26, Ocho. So, you don't think so? I don't know, Ocho. I mean, just get him a shot. Get him a family. 26, Ocho? So you don't think so? I don't know, Ocho. I mean... Hey, just get him a shot.
Starting point is 00:39:48 Get him a shot. His injury history. I think it came to understand... Ocho, he missed one, two, three... Basically, he missed four years with injuries. Yeah. You know they're already looking at you sideways. You missed one year with injury.
Starting point is 00:40:01 Oh, one... Yeah, yeah, yeah. They're looking at you like, oh, and they get you that thing and they start tugging on you and pulling on you, one. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're right, you're right, you're right. And they get you that thing and they start tugging on you and pulling on you and twisting and... Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:09 All this? Yeah. Four? Yeah, that's a red flag. It's a red flag. You know how them GMs think, you know, before they invest in you. But you have to think,
Starting point is 00:40:17 even with the injuries, they can give him a little something just to allow him to live out his dream and give him the opportunity to try and make a team. Good question. Because I i know he just he don't just want to finish you know what finish his collegiate career at um i'm sure he wants the opportunity to play the at the highest level and
Starting point is 00:40:36 now that injuries are past him i think he should be afforded that opportunity from someone i don't know the injuries that he's had, but the problem is, will a team medical staff clear it? That's the staff. They'd be hating, boy. Man, at the end of the day, Ocho, you ain't
Starting point is 00:40:57 getting to work him a comp on me. I ain't going to be taking care of you. Yeah. That's how they think. I was very fortunate though Joe I had no injuries in college I had a little Achilles tendonitis but I didn't have any broken bones I didn't have anything
Starting point is 00:41:14 so them tugging on me and pulling on me didn't bother but if you had an ACL Joe you don't have dislocated shoulders and things like that man they statue on that thing to see how sturdy it is. Yeah. So I'm like, oh man, hey, I'm sorry for you guys. Boise State, Aston Jinton.
Starting point is 00:41:32 Jinty. Exploded in the junior season, Ocho. 20 carries, 267. Six touchdowns. 56-45 win over Georgia Southern. The six touchdown total is a Boise State single-game record and tied the Mountain West Conference mark.
Starting point is 00:41:48 Jensey took a counterplay 77 yards for a touchdown on his second carry of the year, and in the end zone, he struck the Heisman pose. What you thinking? Listen, I like that. You struck the Heisman pose, right? You struck the Heisman pose. I'm really not impressed with you doing against Georgia Southern.
Starting point is 00:42:08 I want you to do it against all the competition, regardless of the level, regardless of who you're playing. Do it against everybody. Do it against everybody. I don't have boys to say. Listen, you striking the highs and poles against Georgia Southern in week one, hell, shit should you got to be that boy? I need you to show up like that every week.
Starting point is 00:42:28 It don't have to be six touchdowns. It doesn't have to be 267 yards. But if you're going to stunt like that week one again, Georgia Southern, I need you to do that next week against better competition. The week after that. No, I'm just saying. I'm just saying. I'm just saying. I'm just saying. Hey, he struck the Heisman pose.
Starting point is 00:42:49 I need to see Heisman work every week, week in and week out. I like it, though. Aston Gentry, I like it. You got to keep that same energy, though, baby. Keep that same energy. Also, there's been a lot of discourse this week about if Travis Hunter will be able to play both sides of the ball in the NFL hey yeah
Starting point is 00:43:08 RG3 here's a tweet from RG3 Travis Hunter keeps showing that he can and should play both wide receiver and NFL full time man has seven catches for a buck 32-3 touchdown to wide receiver and played 43 snaps on defense making the tackle logging out of the field
Starting point is 00:43:24 he's a unicorn. Bro. Yeah. Hey, listen. I saw C.J. Gardner-Johnson, that's my little cousin. He said Travis Hunter wouldn't be able to do it. He wouldn't be able to play both sides of the ball
Starting point is 00:43:41 at the next level. I think what people have to understand is there's a huge difference in the game. Collegiate ball, college ball, and playing the NFL with them grown-ass men. They have kids to feed. They got bills to pay. They got miles to feed. It's different. It's different.
Starting point is 00:44:04 And the margin for error at the next level is so much smaller. The level of competition is so much better. Everybody fast. Everybody quick. I mean, Kenny, to me,
Starting point is 00:44:21 I think, based on the way the market is, if I was him, I would want to be a wide receiver in the NFL. You make more money. I would want to be mainly a wide receiver in the NFL because they're getting 30, 35 million a goddamn year now. And the corners getting 21.
Starting point is 00:44:38 Imagine what's going to happen after he gets drafted in three years from now, what are he going to be making? Hell, it might be a goddamn 40, 45, 45. Let three years from now, what's he going to be making? Hell, it might be goddamn 44, goddamn 5. Is he more talented than Time? No, no. Time ain't playing both sides of the ball. Oh, wait. Sparingly.
Starting point is 00:44:58 RG3 talking like this man should be able to play both sides of the ball as many snaps as he'd like. Provide context. Wait, in college? Yes. In college, yes. In the NFL, it's impossible. And the funny thing about Travis, what I like about Travis, he can do it at the collegiate
Starting point is 00:45:15 level. Because he's that much more talented. Yeah, he has the endurance of a long distance runner, where he can do that. At the NFL. Can you imagine a 10 or 11 play drive? And you think at the 10, 11 play drive on defense plan DB,
Starting point is 00:45:33 you're going to go on offense and then be efficient as well. That, that ain't happening. There's some things that he needs to work on. There's some things he needs to work on. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:44 He don't have to get better release. Too high. Play too high. But don't, he need to work on, Ocho. He's going to have to get better at release. He's too high. He plays too high. But those are the things that you can work on, Ocho. But hey, they're going to put hands on him because he's already tall. He's already tall. So he's right there. And then you're going up against
Starting point is 00:46:00 Jefferson. You're going up against Chase. You're going up against Tyreek. Now, now, that's what you're going up against Chase. You're going up against Tyreek. Now, hold on. Now, that's what you're going up against on defense. Now, you're going to the other side. You're the wide receiver. You got Ramsey. You got Diggs.
Starting point is 00:46:16 You got Sertan. You got Jahir. Come on, man. People just see stuff. A lot of times, people just tweet stuff just to get a reaction. Having played at that level and see, I'm a year behind prime. I'm a year behind time. And I saw him when he was playing both sides of the football.
Starting point is 00:46:41 And he was not playing every snap. He wasn't playing no 40 snaps on defense and 40 snaps on offense. But he wouldn't be able to though. No, because something you can't sacrifice something. You can't be efficient and great at what you do
Starting point is 00:46:58 and do it on both sides of the ball with as much as it takes out of you at the highest level.'s hard it's impossible what travis hunter can do because he's such a special talent is once he gets there you got to play receiver because of the market and the money that you can command and warrant because of how good you are you do both you can do it sparingly the opposite way Deion did it. Deion always played DB and sparingly he came to that
Starting point is 00:47:28 receiver on special packages. Mainly it was 95-0 Joe because I think somebody got hurt with the Cowboys and he played, because if you go back and look at it, he caught a touchdown. Not a touchdown, but he had a big play in the Super Bowl. But if you go back
Starting point is 00:47:43 and look at it, he played – he was always the DB. He was always who he was and who he is. But he got a lot more reps on the offensive side of the football. They ran it with some reverses. They let him – they threw him the ball because he had that kind of talent. You know his talent. The hardest sport to play is baseball. He was a professional baseball player. Let that sink in. Because he had that kind of talent. You know he's talented. The hardest sport to play is baseball.
Starting point is 00:48:06 He was a professional baseball player. Let that sink in. The hardest sport to play. Because if you. Shohei Otani bats 300. He makes 700 million. So imagine if you caught. If you caught.
Starting point is 00:48:18 They throw you 10 passes. You caught three of them. Shit. You'll be home. You're home. Just imagine. You'll be home. If. just imagine you'll be home if you're supposed to be this great basketball player and you shoot 10 shots
Starting point is 00:48:31 now 30% ain't even good from the three point line you gotta be in the mid 30s to the upper 30s for people to take you serious hold on bro you shoot 30% stop shooting threes that's why I don't see I think the thing is because time retired, time retired such a long time ago. People just don't realize how great, how great.
Starting point is 00:48:52 I ain't say good. How great he was. He could have. Had he not been as great as he was defensively, had he just said, you know what? Later for the DB stuff. I want to focus on being a wide receiver. He's going to the Hall of Fame as a wide receiver.
Starting point is 00:49:06 That's how great he was. And I ain't telling you what somebody told me. I'm talking about I watch it with my own eyes. When you see him, you had to see him play. You need, like, some things, don't you? Like, I understand that there's film, there's footage, or you see it in the stadium. But you need to be on the field level to see it.
Starting point is 00:49:24 You need to be right there. Like, to see a Barry Sanders or to see it in the stadium. But you need to be on the field level to see it. You need to be right there. Like to see a Barry Sanders or to see Jerry. Up close. Man, time. See, that's the same. I tell a lot of people that. I know I'm going to get off topic a little bit.
Starting point is 00:49:36 I tell a lot of people that. Like we watch the Olympics. We see how fast Noah Lyles and Tobago and all these young fellas are running. But I think the casual fan doesn't understand how fast they're moving until you see it up close. You need to go to a track meet. When I talk about people
Starting point is 00:49:52 always watching film on Randy Moss or seeing film on goddamn and they say, oh, they were great. They just look at the numbers. Forget the numbers. You have to see these motherfuckers up close and how fast and good they were in person. I'm on the field with you, playing against you, and I'm in awe. I'm in awe
Starting point is 00:50:14 watching. So I don't think people understand. Yes, I understand their greatness in the finished product that we see as in being Hall of Famers. But I got to see it from the beginning to the middle to the end. In person, live with my own eyes. And I'm like, God, damn. I'm on the... Think about all the receivers today. Think about the greats.
Starting point is 00:50:39 The Justin Jeffersons. The Jamar Chases. Devontae Adams. Tyreek Alden, Mike Abbott, whoever you want, whoever ever sees CD. It don't matter. Nothing will compare to that era of T.O. and Moss. It was different, or even Jerry. It was just different.
Starting point is 00:51:00 They're great in their own right today, but them fools back then? Oh, sure. i don't know how to put in the words i don't even know how to explain it it's just different we never gonna see nothing like that again well they've added they've added games and teams don't run the football like they did in the 90s much when you when you see chris carter and you see uh uh uh you see uh jerry and you see tim brown and you see these and you see Tim Brown and you see these guys with 1,000 catches, think about how much they ran the ball.
Starting point is 00:51:30 When I got to the league in the 90s, everybody said pack your defense and your run game. Yes, sir. You threw the ball on third down. Or if you try to get slick and you got stopped behind the line of scrimmage on first down or something, you would throw it. If it was second and long, you would throw it. But more times than not, you ran the ball first and second down,
Starting point is 00:51:50 you threw it. Every once in a while, you would swing it out there. You try to catch the defense off balance. But more times than not, you ran the football. That's what makes Jerry the numbers that Jerry put up so effing impressive. 1,500 catches and mainly in a running error. Now, that's not to diminish what other guys have done. But if it was, the man got 208 touchdowns.
Starting point is 00:52:17 Do you know how many, do people actually think about it? What? Jerry had 197 receiving touchdowns. That's crazy. 197. That's crazy. No, but Randy is second behind him. He's 44 short.
Starting point is 00:52:38 150. Yeah. So how many touchdowns did Jefferson have in three years? I don't think he has 44. Who has 44 touchdowns over the last three years, the last four years? That's just how great Jerry was. Jerry had 1,000 yards receiving at 40. At 40.
Starting point is 00:53:06 Oh, yo. At 40. That's crazy. People don't remember. Do y'all remember Jerry when he was at Oakland and they went to the Super Bowl? Jerry had 1,200 yards. Hey, we played.
Starting point is 00:53:18 Yeah, we played him. We played him and Tim was there. I think I was young. I might have been in my second or third year, something like that. They still had the goddamn baseball, the baseball field. Hold on. I'm trying to think.
Starting point is 00:53:30 If I'm not mistaken, I think Chuck McNerrick was the last full-time offensive and defensive player. That had to be in the 60s. The last full-time. I was also with Bo. I was in the league when Bo was in the 60s. The last full time. I was also when Bo,
Starting point is 00:53:48 I was in the league when Bo was in the league. When Bo, if you go back and look at the film, when Bo ran over the Bronco players, I was on the sideline. That was my rookie year. He ended up getting hurt about two weeks later. He got dragged down from behind, popped his hip out the socket.
Starting point is 00:54:03 It was never the same. I didn't have his hip replaced. But I saw a bull up close. I saw it with my own two eyes. Had heard about all the stories and him catching the ball and running up the side of the wall in the All-Star game and then hitting the home run to see him on the football field and to see how he's built.
Starting point is 00:54:23 And like, how a man run that fast that size? He's built and like how man run that fans that size he's gonna be able to run that fans but ain't nobody playing guys it's great and this ain't no hate but ain't nobody in the NFL gonna play both sides full
Starting point is 00:54:39 time it ain't happening yeah that's that's difficult that's difficult you know's difficult. You know the type of endurance and shape you would have to be in to be able to do that? Can't do it. The guys, the athletes are too great. The guys are just too great,
Starting point is 00:54:56 Ocho. They're too great. I'm not saying that he can't do it spot duty. Okay, you want to run a couple of routes? Yeah, that's why i said that you know you know what i can see him doing you know what would be dope red zone this would be dope playing receiver five day playing receiver full time which you want to do that has to be what he wants to do because of the market it only makes sense and then coming in on nickel on third down
Starting point is 00:55:21 and covering the third receiver because he is just that good. What you think? That's a possibility. I like that. That's a possibility. I like that. But boy, hey, he ain't covering no...
Starting point is 00:55:36 I'm trying to think. Think about, think about, hey, think about Trav, right? Think about Travis Hunter. He get drafted next year. I say he going top three. I can see that. I say he going top three. I can see that. I say he going top three. I can see that.
Starting point is 00:55:45 Think about this. Depending on where he goes, week one, let's say, just hypothetically speaking, he is playing both sides of the ball full time. Imagine they playing the goddamn Vikings. And you got goddamn Justin Jefferson on the goddamn
Starting point is 00:56:02 11-play draft because you got to cover the number one receiver. And then you got to go play on offense and then got to deal with the Vikings' best corner. If I'm not mistaken, it might be Byron Murphy. I might have the name wrong. I might be wrong. Just imagine that.
Starting point is 00:56:17 Yeah. And the amount of... The amount of... Exhaustion it's going to take. You know what it takes to cover somebody like J.J.? the amount of exhaustion it's going to take. You know what it takes to cover somebody like J.J.? Oh, Joe.
Starting point is 00:56:30 On a six, seven, a seven-play series and then have to turn around and deal with the Vikings' best corner? You see receivers. Who is also like that? You see receivers coming out
Starting point is 00:56:43 on seven, eight-play drives now. Hey, give me a break. Hey, tapping that helmet. So what are we supposed to do? So you have this long drive. They kick off and you got to go right out there. What you think? What you think the offense is?
Starting point is 00:56:58 You trot your ass out there on defense. What you think the offensive coordinator is going to do when you just had a long drive on offense and you was out there the whole time is going to do when you just had a long drive on the offense and you were like that the whole time. I'm going at you. That's what I would do. Damn. I like the thought of it.
Starting point is 00:57:17 The thought of doing it is exciting to me. The thought of doing it, I'm just understanding what it entails and what it comes with and how much energy you have to exert to be able to pull it off. I'm just thinking about playing a goddamn receiver and how difficult that is from a standpoint of
Starting point is 00:57:36 actually doing it, especially when I'm going against one of them dogs. You see, week to week in college, you're going to see that dog every so often. Boy, you got 17 weeks. You got 17 dog every so often. I mean, you got. Boy, you got 17 weeks. You got 17 weeks of that boy. I mean, think about.
Starting point is 00:57:51 Let me ask you a question. Which one of those receivers he faced? Which one of those DBs you think playing on Sunday? I see it. Guess who he's going to be playing on Sundays? Every one of those guys he faced on Sunday in the NFL. On both sides of the ball. Ball.
Starting point is 00:58:07 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I like the idea because he's going to get better. We saw JJ. Remember JJ? Had the outstanding season. He come in and caught a couple of touchdowns at tight end.
Starting point is 00:58:19 Mike Vrabel. He played defense. Used to come in on the goal line, catch a couple of plays. Yeah. We see defensive linemen come in. They block. They play defense. Do to come in on the goal line, catch a couple of plays. We see defensive linemen come in, they block, they play defense, do a block, hell, snap, call a touchdown. But to do it full time, basically, you're asking a guy to go out there and play 80 snaps, 90 snaps. So let's just say there's 65 snaps a game, both sides of the ball.
Starting point is 00:58:43 That's 130 snaps. Well, we know ain't nobody playing 130 snaps. So I'm just saying, I'm being conservative, Mocho, and saying try to play 80, 90. I don't know. The most I've ever played in the game, Mocho, I played 94 snaps. 94.
Starting point is 00:58:58 Now, I was a little older. I wasn't young like Tramp. But 94 snaps, I don't know if y'all noticed, but 94 snaps is a lot of damn plays. And I'm just playing offense. And I ain't running all them plays. Because you know something, I'm blocking some of them.
Starting point is 00:59:14 Yeah, it takes energy to block, but not nearly enough to take you to get your ass down the field. And as a DB, what you think they're doing? A lot of times, them guys just running you off. They ain't trying to block you. They running you off, ain't trying to block you they running you off make you chase right and then you see somebody break free you got to go try to chase them down it's an awful lot and it sounds good in theory but I think I agree with you and your assessment full time on one side of the ball sparingly on the other
Starting point is 00:59:40 nickel come on coming on third down. Go ahead. I like that. Now you got me all excited talking about that. I'm just thinking about all the scenarios and the possibilities where he could do it. That's dope. Trav, if you see this, boy, hand it your business. I like it. Wake up with football every morning and listen to my new podcast NFL daily with Greg Rosenthal
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Starting point is 01:04:46 Persol, a 17 year old who's in custody with charges pending, were both injured in a physical altercation that succeeded the attempted robbery. Both were taken to a San Francisco general hospital. D.A. office is planning to file charges of juvenile court next week due to the suspect's age. Earlier today, Pierce Hall attended an autograph signing at Kyle Palace in nearby Daly City. This was all alleged over Rolex. Nah, nah, he ain't no juvenile. Nah, he ain't no juvenile. Nope.
Starting point is 01:05:21 Hey, you got to put grown man charges on him. But listen, there's another lesson in this for my for my athletes for anybody out there that has nice items
Starting point is 01:05:33 nothing nothing is worth your life no nothing is worth your life you can buy you can buy another Rolex you can buy another chain if someone's trying
Starting point is 01:05:42 to take your car you can buy another car anything if you are at gunpoint I don't think they pulled a gun out of him Rolex. You can buy another chain. If someone's trying to take your car, you can buy another car. Anything. If you are at gunpoint, I don't think they pulled a gun out of him first, Ocho, because I believe he gave it up like you said. I think he probably tried the strong arm and got
Starting point is 01:05:55 the tussling. Yeah, see, don't do that. You only get one shot. This ain't a video game. Ocho, so if somebody come up to you and they ain't got no gun, they ain't got no knife, and video game. Ocho, so if somebody come up to you and they ain't got no gun, they ain't got no knife, and they say,
Starting point is 01:06:09 Ocho, give it up. You taking it off that freely? Yes. I'm not playing. Why? Why play tough? Why am I playing tough? Listen to me.
Starting point is 01:06:20 If somebody come up to you and say, let me get whatever is off of you, you already know they holding you already know they holding why you didn't play that game yeah man here you can take this shit I can buy this again this ain't call of duty
Starting point is 01:06:35 I can't revive myself I don't get a second chance at life mainly Ocho like I said he's at the autograph side of Ocho so I'm he's had an autograph signed at Ocho so I'm pretty sure it's probably in a probably in a fairly nice area
Starting point is 01:06:52 I mean I've done a few autographs signed and it ain't really no shady places yeah but you know it don't matter where you at it don't matter where you at Jit probably knew he was there and waited until after the signing but he thought he could take it you at. He probably, Jit probably knew he was there and waited until after the signing to confront him.
Starting point is 01:07:06 But he thought he could take it. Let me ask you a question. You think that 17-year-old gonna run up and say, hey, Trent, give it up? Trent Williams? Exactly. Yeah. Shit.
Starting point is 01:07:23 Stop playing. Oh, no. But I get what you're saying Ocho try not to put myself in that situation you're right you're absolutely 1000% right yeah I mean I've been in that situation but hey but I didn't turn around I took his word
Starting point is 01:07:40 for it he said hey you already know what it is hey bro my wallet in the car I ain't got nothing on me. I don't want no problem. Hey, I ain't got nothing. I ain't got nothing. That's what stopped me from taking and carrying cash around like that, Ocho.
Starting point is 01:07:54 I used to always carry cash. Anybody that knew me when I was younger, Ocho, if you ever saw Shannon Sharpe with less than 10 bands on him, call the cops. Somebody just robbed him right around the corner. I kept it on me. But then I was like, man, for what?
Starting point is 01:08:12 I'm inviting trouble? Yeah, you're right. You know, half the people, you can understand who really doesn't value their life. I can see the comments. I can see the comments and you can tell who really don't value their life. About dumb ass
Starting point is 01:08:34 jewelry or chains or shit that really holds no true value. Just by the comments. Folk don't care, man. They swear. Listen, you don't care, man. They swear. Listen, you don't get two of these. Nah, you're right.
Starting point is 01:08:48 You don't get two of these. You can't revive yourself. You ain't going to try to talk to them. You ain't going to try to talk to them. Don't say, young man, bro, what you doing, bro? You can't play over. Now, hell, man, take this shit. Because, you know, the funny thing, you take my shit,
Starting point is 01:09:02 you're going to be mad anyway when you try to go pawn to the seller because it ain't real no way. So not shit. Because you know, the funny thing, you take my shit, you're going to be mad anyway when you try to go pawn to the seller because it ain't real no way. So not shit. You done lost twice. Hey, you try to get him on it. Hey, bro, hey, y'all fellas, go ahead and take this. I'm trying to get you away from me as quick as I can. Man, go on about your business,
Starting point is 01:09:17 man. I'm trying to get home to these goddamn 85 kids. Yeah, ain't nothing wrong with that, Ocho. I get it. You're right. I mean, you're right. Ocho, I ain't. You ain't wrong when you're right. And you're right. You ain't wrong when you're right, Ocho. Just, hey, little young fella have it. And he's been dealing with it.
Starting point is 01:09:34 He's been dealing with some injuries. It's been kind of hard for him to get on the field, Ocho, because he's been nicked a lot. And then this happened. Man, he probably thinking like Lord I mean you done blessed me but I got buzzed up right now because what's going on and it's like bro like I said
Starting point is 01:09:51 but that 17 year old nah bro you ain't no juvie I gotta put real charges on you because you doing a real adult crime and think about it he hit him in the chest right and God obviously has favor ricky is okay
Starting point is 01:10:09 now what happened if he wasn't okay yeah for sure what happened if he passed what happened if he had passed away you know and i'm thinking like we don't really value life we don't really value life until we lose somebody close to us we don't really value life until it happens to us you're right always and then everybody's favorite line is oh you messed the city up with this one oh but no i'm reading the comments everybody tough oh you were easy lick but it you never value it until it either happened to you or somebody close to you and then it's a oh damn
Starting point is 01:10:47 you fucked the city up with this one twin you ain't wrong when you're right Ocho I just I just talked to you the other day and
Starting point is 01:10:56 we so lost yeah I just everybody trying everybody trying to get that lick though Ocho you know everybody everybody trying to hit a lick not everybody butjo. You know, everybody trying to hit a lick.
Starting point is 01:11:06 Not everybody, but I'm saying. You know, people don't want to, everybody's gotten above working. Man, I ain't working at no damn McDonald's. I ain't doing this job. That's beneath me. So let me go take somebody else to work hard for. Let me go take that up
Starting point is 01:11:22 on them. And then, when it ends, he ain't have to do him like that. He ain't have to shoot him. He ain't have to kill him when you ain't have to take that man's shit. Yeah. You robbing somebody when you doing
Starting point is 01:11:38 bad to somebody, harm to somebody. Whatever happens, happens, Ocho. Mm-hmm. You know that's Ochocho you know that's us now he didn't have to do it like that he had to do it always it's always our community boy
Starting point is 01:11:55 I'm glad Ocho you know what I'm glad I've never been too proud to work hard people try to make me feel bad man you working in them fields you getting tall in you because i mean you know you get tall on your hands you got tar on your hair you out there getting black i ain't never been too i've never been too proud to work hard man give me an honest day's salary i give him an honest day's work i can honestly say i never
Starting point is 01:12:22 took nothing off nobody okay i hit my grandma up a couple times for 50 cent dollar, but you know, I gave him Yeah, I hit Granny up, but I think she forgave her, baby. I think I made good on that, Ocho. That's just me.
Starting point is 01:12:43 And the biggest mistake that I've made a large portion of my that, Ocho. But that's just me. And the biggest mistake that I've made a large portion of my life, Ocho, is that I think everybody thinks like me. Oh, I'm going to go out there and work hard. I ain't going to take nobody else's issue. I'm going to go out here and do the right thing. I ain't going to do that. People look and think it's just the opposite.
Starting point is 01:12:59 You know, time's a different time. Everybody want that fast life everybody want that everybody want that instagram lifestyle you know it's always only it's only it really ain't too many jobs that can provide that like that lifestyle you see on instagrams all the time there's only one way it's only hey it's only one way to get that you know what i mean if you if you ain't on that goddamn field of that basketball court hell it's only one other route unless you're a rapper that type of lifestyle and luxury
Starting point is 01:13:28 entertainment or something you're doing something because ain't nobody that's working that's worth money posting that money like that no no no because i mean you post too much they're gonna come get it now they're gonna come see what you buy oh they come oh they're coming to get oh shit who can tell you they come see what you're about who can tell you listen i might listen sometimes if you're doing it and you got to get it how you live to provide to provide yeah sometimes you got you got to get it how you live i understand that i come from those circumstances at one point too. I get it. It's unfortunate. The show hits every single game every single week, but I can't do it alone. So I'm bringing in all the big guns from NFL media like Colleen Wolf.
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