Club Shay Shay - Nightcap - Hour 1: Nuggets beat Thunder, Lakers lose to Nets, & Justin Fields signs a new deal with the Jets

Episode Date: March 11, 2025

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson react to the Nuggets beating the Thunder, the Lakers lose to the Nets & Justin Fields signs a new deal with the Jets! They also discuss a possibility of Aaron Rodgers signing with the Steelers and much more!06:15 - Show start08:00 - Nuggets vs. Thunder20:51 - Lakers vs. Nets30:12 - Jets sign Justin Fields49:48 - Aaron Rodgers (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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got their get back tonight against the OKC Thunder 141 27. The Nuggets scored 140 points. They shot 61% from the floor. They shot 56% from the three all seasons worse allowed by the number one rank defense in chaos and a KO seat. Okay, see Jokic went off 35 points 18 rebounds eight assists. Jalen Williams left the game with a strike strain hip and It showed look

Shay is gonna win the MVP and he should But make no mistake. Yeah. The best player in the world is Nicole Jokic. Nicole Jokic is the best player in the world and it's not close. As great as Shay is, ain't nobody seeing Joke, Ocho. Can I ask you a question? Yeah, you may, certainly.

This is kind of really don't make no sense to me now. Can I ask you a question? Yeah, you may certainly. This is kind of really don't make no sense to me now. Now, if FGA is the MVP, what you consider Jokic, the best player in the world right now, how does that even go hand in hand in general? Because the best player doesn't always win the MVP. LeBron James was the best player for a decade.

He only has maybe longer and he only has four MVP. Michael Jordan, same thing. So that doesn't necessarily always equate. You look at how well a guy's playing, the best player on OKC is Shane. Look at their record, 53 and 12, the number one seed in the Western Conference. And so basically it's him, Yoke, Yanes,

we'll see what happens with LeBron, maybe JT. But when you look at the numbers that Yokech is putting up, 29 points a game, 12 rebounds a game, 10 assists a game, he's on pace to average a triple-double. He's the best player. I get all that, what y'all saying, Chad, I hear it. And Shea has been phenomenal. Lina Lujica scoring, but Shea is not a better player.

Giannis is not a better player. JT is not a better player. Luca LeBron, whomever you want to throw in the occasion, only the equation, excuse me, the best player in the NBA, the best basketball player in the world, is from Serbia, and he's Nikola Jokic. Are you sure about that?

I'm 1000% categorically for certain. I've never been sure about any more thing in my life other than my firstborn. She looks just like me. I've never been more sure about anything. Okay, okay. Based on your giving me a better understanding and context and how most of the time the best player doesn't actually win the MVP, I'm gonna have to agree with you in a sense, but what SGA is doing this year is phenomenal. The reasons why they're first and have the record that they do, and statistically, on both sides of the court,

offensively and defensively, they're at the top, top three in almost every statistical category. I would kind of put him up there with Joker as the best player in the NBA, but you think Joker is instead- Yeah, no, Joker's, and Yoke is hands down the best player. Okay. It's not close.

Okay, I can't agree. That's not to take away anything from Shea in what he's doing. He's gonna be a unanimous first team all NBA selection. And rightfully so. I believe he's gonna win the MVP and rightfully so. But I believe two things can be true. I believe Shea deserves the MVP. He's earned that award

Nicole Yocage is the best player in basketball Now you dribble a basketball and you breathe oxygen Nicole Yocage is best That's all I'm saying, uh, and he doesn't That's not a knock on shee. Oh Uh, and he doesn't, that's not a knock on Shay. No, there are guys that want MVP. Look, Carl Malone with the MVP. It wasn't better player than Michael Jordan.

What are we doing here? He wasn't, but his look at his team's record. Look at the numbers that he put up. Yeah. Well, check this out. I guarantee you if Shay Nimm didn't have this record, let's just say they was tied with Yoke them. Yoke would win four MVP's in a five year span. Because the numbers look at his numbers, Ocho 2912 and 10. And

he's shooting 5758% from the floor. He was 15 or 20. Let us think again, 15 or 20, one of two from the three point line. Hell, he's shooting down there 50% from, what did he shoot on for the three this year? He just doesn't tell, I don't know if he takes enough to qualify. He's shooting 43% from the floor. But he's shooting from the three.

He's shooting 57, 57, 58%. 57, almost 58% from the floor. He's shooting 43% from the threepoint line. Yeah, but that's crazy They know him take this away. Shay is going to win the MVP, right? I Guarantee if you pull all the GM's and ask them I bet yo wins is 30 teams. You got 30 GM's He's gonna probably win 28 to 2 27 3 as the best player in the NBA. It's not close. Don't knock on nobody. Right.

It's not. But tonight he showed you what he's capable of. And then he had his, he had his guy with him, Murray, 11 or 22, three or seven, 34. They had, they only played, they only played eight guys. Six of them scored in double figures. The seventh guy had eight points. And he only played 18 minutes. Everybody scored and touched the court except one guy.

What was, what was, what was Shay's stat line tonight? Shay had 25, he was eight of 14, three of seven, six of six. His plus minus was minus 18. Chet Hungren was minus 20, Lou Dort, who led him in scoring, was minus eight. Isaiah Hartenstein was the only one that had a plus. No, Jaylen Williams had a plus, but he left with about 14 minutes in the ball game.

Five or 10, one or three. Look, you're gonna have one of these games, Ocho. You're not gonna be, look, I don't care the best defense. Look at 85 Bears. I don't know if you remember that Monday night massacre that Miami put on their ass. I'm old enough to remember that. They beat the Brakes off the Bears in the orange bowl back in 84. Go look it up on that Monday night and look with Dan Marino them dead to them.

So you're going to have a bad game. You look at what happened to us. We played that defense that year. Jimmy Smith dropped down there 300 yards receiving on us. And three touchdowns. He had 15 for 291. That's when Dwayne, Dwayne Starr was out there struggling. And Chris McAllen, he cut everybody's ass. It didn't matter. He's like, hey, you get it. I'll cut your... No, no, you go back over there. I don't have enough. I don't want no more of these problems. I remember that happened.

Nicole Jokic averaging 29 points, 13 rebounds, 11 assists. So he's third in scoring, third in rebounding, second in assists, 11th in field goal percentage. Shay is first in scoring at 33 points, 76 in rebounds, 5.1, 16th in assist, 6.2, 25th in field goal percentage. I mean, he about to become the second guard, I think Michael Jordan did it, to score 30 on at least 50% shooting at the guard.

That's crazy. That's, that's crazy. That's crazy efficiency. I'm talking about crazy. I mean, can I think about it? Only two guys have ever done it in the history that played the guard position. Now there've been bigs. Obviously if you're big, that's different. You're not taking the outside shots like a guard is. But for Jordan, the average 30 and shoot 50% from the floor,

and Shea Haldeman shooting 53% from the floor, he's had a phenomenal season. And to watch the process and watch how he's gotten better and better and better every single year. Now, I'm not saying that if you work hard, you you're gonna be able to have a meteoric rise like him But it's just hard for me to see not a player not getting incrementally better if he works now Are you gonna take that leap like he's taken? Probably not. Yeah, but you'll get better Yeah, it was always something was already in him though

You even got to understand the player players are different with regards to what sports you play when you work hard if you already got the talent And you you add that we're working hard. That's when The leaves and bounds happen in your game like that You look at LeBron look at Jordan look at Kobe guys are a a mislead talented But are equally as hardworking work. So now you combine the talent with hard work. Hey, elevate, elevate the heights unknown. Yes.

And sometimes if you work hard, you don't have to be the most talented. Larry Burry wasn't running. No, whether it wasn't leaping out of the gym, He wasn't the fleetest of foot, but he'd tear your ass up. Same thing with Magic. We had never seen anything like Magic. We'd never seen a guy, a 6'9 guy, you a power forward or you a center.

That's what a 6'9 guy, he was the same height as Mr. Russell, 6'9. And he's playing the point guard. So now you got a little six foot guard trying to guard him. Hell, he looked right over the top of him. Put a hand up in his face, what? Put what hand? So he can see over the top of the defense.

Right. This was a great game. Obviously OKC, they had played, just played, had an unbelievable performance the other night. This was a back to back, right? Yeah, they played just played have an unbelievable performance the other night. This was a back-to-back, right? Yeah They play land night. Yeah, they beat the Nuggets in Denver and then Yeah with that game in Denver, or was it a

Or was it an okay see was both in okay see Okay, but Okay. But Yogi gets his revenge. The Nuggets get back on the winning track 140. They scored 34. They have 67 points at the half. Wow. OKC had 73 at the half. And then they get, and then the second half, they gave up 73 second half points to the Nuggets while they scored 54

second half points. That was the difference in the ball game and that's why they ran away with it. The number two seeded Lakers without LeBron James lose to the 21 and 42 Nets. LA drops to 40 and 23 are now the third seed in the West. This is especially costly loss considering their upcoming schedule is three back to backs in eight days. They're a half game behind of the Denver Nuggets for two and a half game ahead of Memphis for four. LA is in Milwaukee on Thursday. JJ said there's a low level communication game

for the Lakers. He said that being short-handed isn't an excuse. We just don't take, we just don't, we just wanted to take shortcuts, just shortcuts. You wanna be a good team in the NBA, you wanna win, you have to take shortcuts just shortcuts. You want to be a good team in the NBA? You want to win you have to do the hard stuff. I agree When JJ says you have to do the hard stuff what exactly is the hard stuff he's speaking of because when LeBron

Everything you got a rebound. You've got a box out. You've got to get loose ball You've got to make the extra pass, you can't take a shortcut like, oh this seems to be easy turning the ball careless turnovers. Okay, okay, I understand, I understand that. But they've been playing well all season long and well obviously when Luka got there all of a sudden the Brawn is out, now everything is magnified and they're taking shortcuts. Well they't just take a shortcut two nights ago or three nights ago Oh four nights ago before when it was winning Yeah Luca did not shoot the ball well again

826 three of ten five turnovers Austin Reeves didn't shoot the ball. Well three or 14 Alex Lin he got great cardio in 13 minutes zero points. He was, zero points. He was just getting his cardio in. So you know guys normally after the game that didn't play a lot, they'd normally get on the bike to get their leg, get some cardio in. Alex Lin got his in. He just happened to play 13 minutes and they give you nothing in the stat sheet.

So. Now you see what I mean? Now see what you just said right there? You ratted off four players, right? Yeah. That didn't play well, didn't shoot well, but JJ said is about cutting corners of hard work How about you just I mean it's clear as they were really happen It's clear as day, but I'm assuming as a coach you really can't say that you can't be on sometimes Ocho

Sometimes even when you're not playing well, you could overcome not playing well by playing hard. That's what he's saying That's a good one. That's what he's saying. That's a good one. That's, that's, that's a good one. I like that. I like that. But I don't think without them having LeBron and Luka playing is not, okay, not, not playing up the par. There's even if you, even if you did play hard and did, and didn't take any

shortcuts, you wouldn't win in that game tonight. Cause it's not enough. It's not enough people to have. They had a 12 pointpoint lead. Oh Joe And what happened to the 12-point lead on? What happened was you kept filing You kept putting the ass on the free throw line they shot 30 free throws you shot 19 Yeah, you put you on the road and you let a team out shoot you by 11. You're probably gonna lose

Yeah, you put you on the road and you let a team I shoot you by 11. You're probably gonna lose Mm-hmm. I mean they shot the bobby the Lakers work. I mean they shot better from the floor They shot better from the three they shot better from the free throw line. It was closer. I mean no They gave up 16 offensive rebounds with you At this week, that's the hard stuff box out You think the ball just go bounce to you? No Back South. You think the ball just go bounce to you? No. This was a game that they really needed to win, Ocho.

Because think about it, they got Milwaukee, they still got the Nuggets, they got the Nuggets twice. Yeah. And you're gonna face these teams without LeBron. Right, so you say they dropped third, they went from second to third in these. Their third, their half game back of second, their half game in front of Memphis for four.

Yeah. And you're going to be without LeBron. You basically, so I'm going to err on the side of caution. They say he's going to be out of week. I'm going to keep him out two weeks because I don't want him to re-injure it. We're about five weeks away from the postseason. The last thing I want is LeBron living into the postseason because I know we got no chance. But you just got to do all the, you got to do the small stuff right.

Especially when you down one of your best players. Right. I mean, like I said, I said this at the time of the signing. I don't know why you signed Alex Lin. Y'all should have, y'all should have said, Hey Sacramento, we're going to keep you chipping a couple of dollars because we don't want why you signed Alex Lee. Y'all should have, y'all should have said, Sacramento, we're gonna keep you chipping a couple of dollars because we don't want him to come here. That's messed up.

When has anybody said, you know what? Alex Lynn might be the missing piece. He might be a good role player. He might be a good backup. I mean, he in the NBA for a reason now. He in the NBA, like you say it all the time. He tall Sometimes listen sometimes that's all to take Now we if yes if we can give me if we if we can get him to play

Play what the saxophone like light light light light talk we have played like he look Come on that you just that out there wasting the roster spot. Yeah. Look like Tarzan, play like Jay. No disrespect, the young boy. I'm just saying, Gabe Vinson gave it to you tonight. He's starting to shoot the ball really well. Eight and 12 from the floor, six to nine from the three,

two to two from the free throw line. He led the Lakers in scoring with 24. Luca played 41 minutes. He scored 22, but he took 26 shots. Nah, you can never have fewer points than shot attempts. That's not good. Austin Reeves only had three more points than he had shot attempts.

That's not good. Don Konek had one more point had shot attempts. That's not good Yeah, don't connect had one more point point the shot attempts. That's not good And like and I say this again in all sincerity it's hard for me to see a scenario That Alex Litt is better than Dwight Howard, even at the age of 38 or 39. I just don't see it. But you know, they're not bringing anyone older. The game, the game, the game itself is a young man's game.

So even though Dwight Howard is big that I'm sure they could use, they just rather not do it. And I think, I think there might have been some some rift if I'm not mistaken seeing it earlier you know with Dwight Howard had a exchange of words with with somebody when he was on the Lakers which is why he's not there now. He had no exchange of no words. I got to change your words were, you want to go, you want to go, you want to go in the gold farther than the first round of the playoffs. That's the word.

Okay. That's the word, but words. Hey. Further than the first round. If the Lakers really knew what they needed, you know who they really could have bought in? What? You mean what? Man, you holding the ball like you a 1950s

basketball player. Man put that ball down before you hurt yourself. Hey don't worry about how I'm holding this ball it's about where the ball gonna go once I get to the hoop. Nowhere. It ain't going in the basket. Hey listen, when I was in high school I averaged a triple double man.

That's what we not gonna do. A triple single? A triple double. A triple double. They say you had quadruple double. Hey man, listen. Six eight, class six eight. Miami Beach, C.I. I averaged 42 points a night.

What you talking about, man? Why you should be out there, man? A quadruple single. Nah, listen, I was like a mixture of Jamal Murray. Four rebounds to assist six files Hey, I was a mixture Jamal Murray and Kyrie Irvin. That's what my package look like Yeah, I got a yeah, I got I got a package now ask about me Lord have mercy ask about me a

Mix of X lacks of peanut meat you was a I Mix the X lacks of phenom it you was some Tell you I'm telling you I would build different man you thought I was born in New York the kind of handles I had Yeah, that's that's what you should tell me. But you from you sure you from mine. I say yeah But you play that one of them boys off a ruck up or I say nah Like I just say that oh Joe you did I play basketball in high school. Who? I played soccer. I'm saying-

That ain't basketball! I know, but listen to me. My focal point was soccer, but I'm just saying that's how good I was and athletic I was where I could translate. You know, I used to skip class and go to people's PE class and play basketball. Ocho,

you can't play basketball. I'm, I'm, it's a man. There's one thing about me, I lie for you before I lie to you. You hear me? You just lying now. Nah, I take, I take. I mean you ain't really talking to nobody in particular, you just lying. I take pride in my craft.

What, mac and cheese? That's the only craft I don cheese? That's the only craft. I don't think. That's the only craft I know anything about that you would know about. All that other stuff you talking about, I don't know nothing about that. Hey.

What you talking about? Oh Joe, after tumultuous Aaron Rodgers' era in New York has made it clear a decisive and somber decision with a high upside player on a low-cost deal. The Jets signed Justin Fields to a two-year deal, $40 million with $30 million guaranteed. He was celebrating his new deal in Dubai with Michael Parsons, Kyle Pitz, and Bijon Robinson. Fields is expected to be the Jets' opening day starter ahead of Tyrod Taylor. Fields would be reunited with Garrett Wilson, the two were teammates for two seasons at Ohio State 19th through the 20th. Fields was drafted number 11 overall in 2021, nine spots after the just selected Zach Wilson,

who was replaced by Rogers and traded last off season. He was in Denver last year. Now he's in Miami on a one year deal, fully guaranteed to back up to her. Ocho? Yeah. What do you think about this deal? Now we know definitively,

Justin Fields is not going back to Pittsburgh. He's in New York. So you like this deal? Yeah absolutely I like it. I like it. Justin Fields deserve a chance to start. He deserves a chance to start somewhere. If it wasn't for me at Pittsburgh obviously Mike Tomlin had promised Russell Wilson a job. He came in, took the team to four and two, then Russell Wilson took over. We know what happened. The bottom fell out towards the end of the season. Justin Fields doesn't come back. He was on a one-year deal. He's now going to the New York Jets.

Now the New York Jets have their own problems. One of the problems that they did have, but that they think they solved is a quarterback position in bringing Justin Fields in. I'm hoping, I'm hoping things go in his favor and they continue to put pieces around him so he can succeed at what he does. Having Garrett Wilson, for one, as a step in the right direction. Fixing the offensive line for two is another step in the right direction.

You have Breece Hall who takes some of the pressure off of you. When it comes to running the ball, he can also catch the ball out the backfield. Outside of that, the defense, maybe they can get back, hopefully get back to what they once were not last year but the year before when they were top three in almost every statistical category when they played hope they they can get back to that and I'm happy for Justin Fields and there's not now the onus is on you the onus is on you you will you wanted you wanted a chance to be a starter you want a chance to be able to prove yourself.

Now you got it. And not only do you got it, now you got it in the best place to play. The best market, the media, the world is watching. You're going to be on TV. Everything you do is going to be magnified. You know? So the pressure's going to be on a little bit, man. Hey, the pressure's also going to be magnified. You know, so the pressure, the pressure

gonna be on a little bit now. Hey, the pressure's also gonna be on. And it's a big apple, ain't it? Well, also, you know who the backup was under Rogers, who played better at spots when he got into Rogers, Tyrod Taylor. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, Tyrod, Tyrod been around for a long time now. That's what that's one joke.

You understand? Hey, that's one joke. Played well, you understand? Hey, that's one joke on, you can put him on all 32 teams, he gonna give you what you need every time he step in there. Every time he step in there, but for some reason they don't view him as a starter when he actually is. That's what he should be.

He played really well. Remember, he started in Buffalo and took him to the playoffs. Oh yeah, yeah. And then he goes to San Diego. He gives, he has a collagen injury, suffered in the preseason. They inject it and they end up piercing the lung

and he collapsed his lung. So now, Justin Herbert starts. Now, Herbert plays well, he never gets the job back. So now he's been a backup. He was a backup in New York, played better than Daniel Jones, got went to Jets and played good. So he's played well when he's been given an opportunity to play. Oh, and he was also a backup in Baltimore. Yeah. Didn't he back up Flacco?

Didn't he back up Flacco? He did? Yeah! What year was this? He was on that Super Bowl team. Oh right, Rod out of ring too. That's where, and he played, you you know in back spot duty playing well he goes to Buffalo. So he went from Baltimore to Buffalo to the Chargers to the Giants to the Jets. Now where was he at when they had the issue with the lung with the

puncture lung? The Chargers. Now did he purposely not file any type of action simply for the fact that he- I think he did file agreements. For real? I think he did file an agreement. Okay. Cause that's tricky, Ocho, because you want to get deep enough in there

and put the medicine in there, and the lungs are right there. The lungs are right there. You have to be cautious. Now you're talking to somebody that shot his ribs up because he had like rib cartilage. So it's a very delicate process and it happens. It's happened. But you know what I would think about too when I just thought about it, you have to be careful a little bit. I think if you have an issue like that, especially where the

doctors are responsible doing something wrong to you, but I always thought as a player, if you file suit and you win, you know, the NFL ain't gonna play with you no more. You know, you know, you know what I'm trying to get at, huh? He said probably it cost him a starting job because they pay you salary. So now you know what I mean? You see what I mean? Yeah, he's a yeah. He said, he said, yeah. Ah, that's great. So, yeah, it happened.

So I'm congratulat, I'm happy for Justin Fields. Yeah, absolutely. He's like, no, I ain't going back to Pittsburgh. Y'all ain't gonna turn me loose. Y'all, y'all gonna come in here and y'all wanna do this little stuff like that. Play to the defense, don't take any risk. Yeah, right. The last time

he took risk is when they had Big Ben. They allowed Big Ben to play free. Well, hold on there. You got to understand what Big Ben had at his disposal to be able to play free. They ain't got nothing like that over there. But early in his career, even when he had weapons, it was a defense, they run the bus,

they ran Willie Parker. And then even when they got LeBion, they still was an aired out type of a football team because they had all of those receivers They had Mike Wallace's and they had the Sanders and they had the ABs So they had a nice collection of talent at the wide receiver position Now I said and none of the guys so I don't want people to misconstrue this none of the guys that's played quarterback are comparable to Ben So we know we know what Ben represents. Right. But all I'm saying, I mean, I think Ben has the most 500 passing games in NFL history. With that being said, at the end of the day, Ocho, you gotta let me throw the football, bro.

Yeah. This is 2025. This ain't 1940 football when we run the wing tee. Mm-hmm. Yeah, you got to. Quarterbacks want to throw. Receivers want to catch. Running backs want to run. Edge rushers want to rush the quarterback. So you got to let them do what they were meant to do. Right. And so look, I'm sure you're going to try to take advantage of Phil's legs.

They're too dynamic for you not to. Mm-hmm. But you got to let them throw the ball, Ochoa. And I ain't talking about no damn 15 times a game. What the hell you expect the man to do? Go 12 or 15 for 220 yards, three touchdowns? Come on, man. It's all about understanding your player's strengths.

Understanding your player's strengths, understanding your player's weaknesses, and plan to his strengths, play to his strengths, and try to come up with his weakness by doing other things using other people. Right. It's easy. It's the reason there's 11 people on the goddamn field.

Yes, everybody has a responsibility. You like the move to the Jets. Absolutely, hell yeah. But one, only because, okay, I got Bruce Hall behind me. Right. And you mean to tell me I got a gangster and Garrett Wilson out there too? Now I don't know what the rest of the receiver corps look like, but I know I can count on five. They might get a receiver. They might take an offensive lineman.

Yeah. I know I can count on five. I'm, I'm straight. Let me ask you this. How much pressure do you feel is on Justin Fields to show that you know what? I'm a capable starter in the NFL. Yes. Not only is the pressure on him, not only is the pressure on him, look where the hell he went to play at. That make the pressure times 10. True.

But what you can't do, you can't be gunshot. But it all started here. It all started here. Listen, you wanted it, now you got it. And not only did you get it, now you got it on the bigger stage. Yeah, true. Oh, Justin, I know you're gonna say see I know you out there in Dubai. Enjoy yourself You know, I always been a supporter man. We need to go to Dubai

Listen we going somewhere start with indeed ain't you by it's called the art Yeah Yeah, yeah, that Yeah. Hey, yeah. Y'all put me on that plane. Dubai, Ocho. Dubai. I'll see you when we leave it. I'll see you at the airport, Ocho, in six days. Man, you can't turn me loose in the D.R., old Joe.

Oh, no, listen, listen. I got somebody going to take care of us now. You want somebody to take care of you? Because I was going to be out like a scout on a new route. Listen, we got the villa. We got the villa. The guy got the villa for us, 10 bedroom. Now, you don't got to stay with me.

Now, you can be in the villa next door. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I want my own villa. Yeah, you get your own 10 bedroom. You get your own chef. You get your maid. You're a... You know, your villa killer. Oh, yeah, yeah, I was my own villain. Yeah, you get your own 10-barre drink, you get your own chef, you get your maid. You're giving me your maid. Your villain killer.

Oh yeah, oh yeah, most definitely. So after that. I need my own maid. Yeah, oh yeah, you got your own maid and your own chef. They got somebody to cook to? Yes, you get your own, you get your own personal. Oh, I got my own, I got all that?

Everything. Hey, listen, they laid it out. Then you get your own, you got your own boat too, now. Now I got a friend of mine out there in the DR in Punta Cana, his name is Jeff, you hear me? Now Jeff will take care of me. Trouble, trouble. Trouble, yeah, yeah, yes sir, yes sir.

Jeff got a menu, you hear me? You know when you go to McDonald's, you go to Burger King? Yeah. One through 10 in what you wanna pick from? Nah, about what going to take sand to the beach, Ocho. No, boy, hey, what? You know what, hold on, let me, hold on. Just like, yeah, we at church, I'm excusing myself.

Hey, hey, chat, I about to go and take sand to the beach. Hey. Or take, or maybe get my sand out of you, what? Before I get there, Ocho. Maybe get a bottle of you. I'ma tell you one thing'm I'm gonna tell you one thing I'm gonna tell you one thing. I don't know if you ever been to the DR. I have been oh, I've been oh, you know been Uh-uh, and where it ain't no point taking Santa Beach with a Santa's already there

Nah Not listen, uh, I'm I would just stay on home shit there. Oh, oh there it is All right, you got to get in trouble on let me slow down. Okay. Yep. I'm gonna slow down a little bit. Nobody knows the trouble I'm doing all this lying. I have my kids all weekend man. Oh, we may all be You had kids out there? You know, I've had all this lying. I have my kids all weekend man. All week man. All week. You had kids out there? You know, I had all of them with me. Oh bad. I'm not going to go with no kid. I might come back with a few. You know what I'm saying?

Oh, Charby. I'm just saying. If you like what if it is what you said it is, I'll leave with none. I'll leave with three. I'll leave with three. Leave with five. I'm just basing everything off for using my peripheral vision So I was with I was with the kids and then the family I was I was on on daddy duty time Making sure they enjoyed they sell but I got eyes to I got eyes on I got I got to I'm allowed to use them and then based on what I saw They saw what I saw, hey, based on what I saw, it's different. It's different.

Like we have a Dominican community here in Miami, but actually being in Putacana and being able to see it for yourself, it's different. I don't know how to explain it. Man, is it, ooh wee. Hey, it's different. Man, boy listen. What about, what about, what about Columbia or Brazil?

What? I don't know about, listen, I don't know about Columbia. Well we're about what Jett said, hell. Let's start in the DR first. Let's start in the DR. Yeah, start in the DR, we'll work our way around. Only thing I know about Columbia is Pablo Escobar. That's it.

But, hey dawg, everybody be going out to get their veneers now. Where? In Columbia? In Columbia. OK, OK, OK. I guess you get a 32-pack for $500. Dr. Montoya, I think, he out there in Columbia, ain't he? I don't know, Ocho.

Hey, I thought, hey, he's famous. I think he's famous. But the veneers be so big, the people can't even, Ocho. Hey, I thought, hey, you think he's famous, I think he's famous. Man, I'm joking, hey, but the veneers be so big, the people can't even close their mouth. For real? Damn. Now, I wouldn't feel, it's hard now. Look, if I'm in a foreign country, Ocho,

and I need to have something done, I gotta have it done. But as far as going And getting it done. Oh, no, I'm right. No. Oh hey, you have to understand. They do it I think they do a good job. Yeah, you know in Colombia and the price point is a little bit less expensive Then would it would be here tight-ass Titus what they do twin Tied it what they do twin. Tied up with a new twin.

Hey, it's it's hot in here. Hold on. Keep wiping my face. Let me turn AC on. What you doing? Why are you in the bed? Really bro? Yeah, they yeah, I thought so chat people be going don't let me go into Columbia getting BBLs and getting a

dinner work done That's it. That's the capital Columbia is the BBL capital Huh Damn Columbia be a capital. Huh? I'm not going to line up in the damn Columbia. Yeah, I might need to go to Turkey, get me a hairline. I'm going to be, give me one of more Paul George hairlines. Oh, nah. Well, hey, listen, you want to talk about hairlines? The only hairline I want, if I was ever to decide, like listen, my hairline is not receding, but if it was the receding at any point

I decided to grow it out, I want my hairline like, what's the name? From, used to be on First Take, man. Jalen Rose. Jalen Rose, yeah. Boy, Jalen, hey, I don't know who Jalen Rose Barber is. Boy, young boy, he had to be an engineer. Man, look here. Hey, Jalen Rose Bar he had to be engineer man look here hey Jen and

Rose barber had to be engineer I ain't never seen nothing so clean and sharp like that boy I'm talking about everything man you see Paul George Paul George ain't lost that one I mean Paul George hairline right here for real yeah hey hey that joke hey he raised it like, that joke ain't right. He raise it like this, and his whole head go back. Calm down. I ain't never noticed that. Man, PG, hey, I need that PG. Turkey, Turkey is where you go for hair transplant.

Because they pull it out the back, and then they put it right here. But you can't work out, you can't sweat or anything, for like three to five weeks. I got a question though. Yeah. I wish, and this is all jokes aside, I wish there was a way. I know if you're missing hair, they pull it from the back and they put it in places so

you can actually grow. I would love to know what it feels like to have a full beard. Like my beard, I'm just being honest, and we family so I can be honest with you, it grows in patches. And if I do want to grow And then allow it to be full. Yeah, thanks watch. Yeah, I can tell you. Yeah, you good. Come on Hey, this this is your beer luck. You have human hair planted They got human hair planted in there for beard. Hey, hey, do that, now listen, now that's a procedure that I'ma do.

I can, I can, listen, we family, I can talk to you now. Oh, you get hair transplant? No, not hair, my hair grow fine. I'm saying if I can grow a beard, and there was a way I can get surgery to make my voice deeper. Man, you see how I talk, when I talk talk and it's like I got a goddamn soprano voice Yeah, yeah, I want I want to be able to wake up on the phone Look at P.J. Hill. I hello. Where's that look at P.J. Hill? I

Joke now, he just don't have a haircut on even if you tangent up, old Joe? Look at that. Look how deep that... Old Joe, look at the side. What that point is. Look what the point is. That damn thing's an eyebrow. Ha ha ha. Hey, if you did that my homeboy, amen. Yeah, oh, I ain't got no problem. I want that hair full of hair.

I want my hair to, you know, my hair used to be down here damn pretty soon. I'm gonna have to let hair. I want my hair, you know, my hair used to be down here pretty soon. I'm gonna have to let that thing go like my brother. Yeah, I might need to go to Turkey. I think Ocho froze. I'm right here. Okay, okay, okay. Oh. ["Rusty Wilson's New Song"] But that's what I'm gonna do, Ojo. Ojo, the Steelers and Aaron Rodgers

could reportedly have a deal done by tomorrow. He beat them in Super Bowl XLV. He could be joining them soon. Is this a good move by the Steelers? Might be the only move. Yeah, I'm just getting ready to say that. I'm not sure they want to go back to Russell Wilson, but the only move for them to do at this point, even though the issues that Aaron Rodgers had when he was with the Jets, it didn't work out some of the things that he did away from the game that affected

him on the field. If there's a team or a place where we can go where you understand you have to change your ways because now you're on the back end where they don't need you. They don't need you. And you have to find a way to getting good graces with the NFL in general. Letting them know, okay, you know what? I don't have the leverage I used to have.

Things are a little bit different now. The game is getting younger. I'm not the same four time all-pro I used to be. I got to do things the right way because I'm almost out the door. Yeah. I have flashes of brilliance. Flashes of brilliance every so often,

I'm up and down, this could be my last stop. It could. You got George Pickens to work with, you got DK Metcalf to work with. I'm not sure what they do. Prior move Charles off to the third. Hey, he nice. I'm not sure what they're gonna do in the backfield.

I'm like, you need somebody to take that pressure off him so we don't have to lose so much. Not to cut you off, it looks like Nigel Harris is about the size with the Chargers. Yeah, he ain't one of the best. So is Jalen Warren is a free agent too, is he? Or is he back? Because you know everybody feels

that they can go get a back. Because a lot of times people feel like the college back, his most value is when he first come out. Because guess what, Ocho, he's coming out at the 21 or 22 year old and we get him for three to four years and we ain't got to do nothing at least for three years. So we run the tread off the tires and then we punch the ball, let somebody else get him. So we feel we got the best out of him. That's how they think.

Ah, I hate that. He's a restrictor. I hate that. I don't, you know, I don't like, I don't like the fact that the running back position still, if you look at the numbers, that some of the running backs have gotten today is not valued the way it should be,

unless you are special. Unless you are special. Unless you are special. I mean, you can look at it. So I don't want to say any names because to me, it's somewhat disrespectful to some of the deals that they have to sign one year deal. They did, but the running back had a resurgence last year, Ocho.

I mean, look, I ain't talking about, but you talk about the top five backs. Let's say you say Saquon. Saquon. You take Derek Henry. Henry, you take Josh Jacobs, you take who else was it? Jonathan Taylor. Taylor, yeah. Who else was in that group? That's your top five right there. Okay, yeah. Like it's like them and then there's a huge drop off like off the cliff. Like what the hell?

That's crazy. Just, I mean, I'm looking at some of the numbers. I'm looking at some of the numbers. Like it is the NFL. It's still good money. But for the position and what you have to go through, the wear and tear, the pounding, pause. I'm like, God, I need you. I thought he was going to the Chargers. I thought he was going to the charge that's looking at the charges somebody tell me he just side with the

Rams one year Oh Oh Nigel Harris yeah I saw that earlier before I even got here I saw that on Twitter he's not with the charges right one year okay not point to five okay they just got they had the number right, but they had the wrong team I Look think about it. Oh Joe Look about how many quarterbacks moved and they're the one of the last ones to move Is a four-time league MVP? Yeah a Super Bowl winning quarterback. That should tell him everything he needs to know. Yeah.

If this is not a wake up call for Aaron Rodgers, I don't know what is. Yeah. Yeah. It would scare me, honestly. It would scare me to the point where I'm walking on eggshells where an NFL in which I dominated for a very long time and I've had leverage for a very long time. I know I no longer have that leverage They know they no longer need me right now the fact that I had opportunity in New York and didn't get it done And they actually let me go. I've never been on the losing side of things in that Manner, you know what we're gonna show you the door. We good Man, Raiders Raiders say hey, we're trade for Gino

Seattle says no, we won't say I'm Donald Seattle says, no, we want Sam Darnold. Yeah. Remember I told you the whole joke? I said, I like a deal for Sam Darnold like what Baker Mayfield got. Yes. I'm not fitting to give him no 45, 50 million dollars. About 33 million dollars. Baker has played really well.

Next year, Baker probably, if he plays well like he played last year, he's probably going to tear that deal up and he's probably going to get $45, $50 million. Baker has played unbelievable. And Chris Godwin turned down more money to stay, he turned down, well, he had an opportunity to go to the Patriots, if I read it correctly, but he took less money to stay in Tampa. Excuse me, play alongside Mike Evans and have Baker Mayfield as his quarterback. Got no problem with that. But this is should be, like you said, Ochoa, this absolutely should be a wake

up call for Aaron Rodgers. Because your resume, because see your resume, it doesn't, you didn't do that resume in Pittsburgh. You didn't do that resume XYZ. What you did in Green Bay, they'll be, they'll forever remember you. But I ain't, hey, I need you to do some of that for what you did in Green Bay. I need you to do some of that here. Yeah. And he had everything he needed. They gave him everything he needed. They gave him everything he wanted. And he didn't get it done. He did not. He didn't get it done. I think he wanted Randall Cobb, he got it. He wanted Allen Zard, he got it.

He wanted Kay Adams, he got it. He wanted his offensive coordinator, he got it. Nathaniel Hackett owe a lot to Aaron Rodgers because he snaked the Broncos, pretended like he was interested in knowing he wasn't going to get Nathaniel Hackett that job. And then he's like, you know what, I want Nathaniel Hackett knowing good way. He was interested knowing he wasn't going got they find your hack at that job. Mm-hmm And then he's like, you know what? I want Nathaniel Hackett knowing good way Yeah I understand but look at look at the power and leverage as a quarterback that a quarterback has on Especially with quarterback with the accolades and the resume that he has there's some of the things that he can pull off

Come to an organization and they give you the keys. They gave you everything Now I'm gonna give you everything keys. They gave you everything. Now they're gonna give you everything, but look how you acted when it was time for mini camp. When it was time to be a leader of men. The one person that the players are supposed to be able to look up to and actually count on, you are completely different.

You do things your own way, not like the Tom Brady's, the Peyton Mannings, or the Drew Brees's. But you do it your own way. Now you get another shot in Pittsburgh. And I would think the best thing for you to do, I mean who am I to tell somebody on how to conduct themselves when they come to play in the game of football when I was an asshole. You know you wouldn't be an asshole, but I'm saying Ocho, when you go to a new team, you show up for many camps and no TAs because you try to ingratiate yourself into that team structure.

Because what you did, where you came from, has no bearing on what you're going to do here. That was my approach when I went to Baltimore. I understood what I had accomplished in Denver, but how was that gonna help me at Baltimore? Y'all wasn't throwing me the ball, I wasn't in my high, and so now I got to show people, OK, this is how the guy that came here, this is how I became who I became.

Right. The way you practice, the way you do things, the attentiveness that you show. I didn't think I was because I had two bowl rings and I was an all-pro yada, yada, yada. I didn't go in there thinking I was better than them. I wouldn't. I humbled myself.

Hey, I need to be an OTA. Here I am. The only thing I did say, they used to have a test, Ocho. The conditioning test, you had to run on the treadmill. How you did? Man, I told Friday, you remember Friday? Friday with y'all, you all had Chip and Friday too, but the roles were reversed right it was the head chip was the assistant and Cincinnati Chip was the head Friday was the assistant Hmm Man they got a little thing and you know you start off in like eight you run on there for two minutes And they go to nine eight down, but you gotta be like 20 minutes

And I'm looking at everybody and I'm begging to myself, is this a new form of football? Because we ain't gonna be playing on no treadmill. I said, Friday, I'll be back. I went right upstairs and said, Brian. I said, bro, what the treadmill gotta do to work it out? He said, what's wrong? I said, bro, I run on the grass.

I run on the ground. I play football on the ground? I said, bro, I run on the grass. I run on the ground. I play football on the ground. I said, bro, I can't do that. Cause the car ain't no worry about it. I say, I came right back down. I said, I talked to Brian. You ain't doing it? That's a wrap for me.

Mm-mm. I don't know. I like stuff like that. I like stuff like gases, conditioning tests, stuff that actually has no bearing. I like actually running, Ocho. I like stuff like that. I like stuff like gases, conditioning tests, stuff that actually has no bearing. I like actually running, Ocho. I like actually running. And I had just got off a hamstring injury.

I had just got off a hamstring injury. That's understandable. That's understandable. That's understandable. Hell nah. But let me ask you this, Ocho. How do you think the pairing is going to be with Aaron Rodgers and Mike Tomlin?

It's gonna be good. Listen, one thing about it, I guarantee you, any player, no matter who you are, no matter what you've done in NFL, they have respect for their young bull out there. I'm talking about young bull. They have respect for Mike Tomlin. All of them, including Aaron, walking in that building,

going to play for that historic franchise, for a coach that's been consistently good, I mean, not where they should be, but he's been consistently good and always winning year in and year out, you're coming in with respect. I'm sure, and I'm sure Mike Townsend's gonna give him that same respect based on who he is and what he's done. But again, like you said, it holds no weight

and has no bearing on what you've done so far. You gotta update your resume every year, huh? You do. You absolutely do. And that's what I love about sports. This ain't no, hey bro, you got, no. You gotta update your resume every game. This is a game to game.

Now you get an opportunity to do it. Cause this ain't like no regular job, Ocho, where we have a year in review. Now we review your stuff every week, bro. I can't wait till the end of the year to make a decision. I might need to get you up out of here after week five, after week six, after week ten. I can't be afraid to make change. The only cost that you will ever have in life is change. Right, right. The only constant you will ever have in life is change. Whether you choose to adapt and evolve and change with it, but change is the only thing that's constant. Hmm. Hopefully, I hope Aaron understands that.

Yes, your career in Green Bay was sensational. I mean, some people might have thanked you based on who you are, your body of work, those MVPs, the consistency, the touchdown to interception ratio. Some people might say, but damn, Aaron, you left some out there. Losing to Jimmy Garoppolo? Twice? Russell Wilson in his third year? Yeah, I remember that. You lost to, who else? Lost to Tom, you wanted, you wanted home field.

You said, I want the role to the Super Bowl to lead through Green Bay. And I be damned if you ain't let Tom his first year in Tampa come there and put puss in you. Yeah. Yeah. Four MVP's you gotta you gotta get to at least two to three Super Bowls on Cho. I ain't saying you gotta you gotta get to least two to three. With four MVP's on Cho? Yeah. Four? to least two to three with four MVPs oh Joe yeah four four Manny has the most he had five Manny went to three Super Bowls I think

Montana has two MVPs Montana with the four Super Bowls Brett Favre went to two Elway got one MVP he went to five with four MVPs, you gotta be at least two Subos. You got to. You got to. And don't get, look, and he, I mean, ain't like he ain't have no weapons, Ocho. Oh yeah, he has. Jordan Nelson and Greg Jennings and Doll Driver.

He's always had him. He's Michael Phelan. He's always. Always. So, it's gonna be, it be very interesting to see. It's going to be very, it was difficult seeing him in a jazz uniform because you get so custom to see a guy in a said uniform. I mean, it's like, damn, I mean, now you will probably see him in a different uniform.

Maybe the Steelers. It seems like, you know, for what, who had said that? Shepter? That a deal might be reported. Shepter? That a deal might, oh, it's being reported. Shepter didn't report it. Pro Football Talk saying it could be a deal. To see Aaron Rodgers in a different uniform. Yeah.

Mike Florian? Listen, they need it though. They need it, even though it is not Aaron Robbins of old, but the fact that, okay, if we can get him somewhere just close to being a little consistent, we'll be all right. Because look what we got to deal with already

in our division. Yeah, we ain't see, you know who else got to make another splash? The Cleveland Browns. Yeah. There is no way to compete in the AFC North unless you have a quarterback. Cause in defense they don't get it done.

You're not gonna dominate on defense. That can't be your identity, not going against Joe Burrow and Lamar Jackson. No. Now, Aaron Rodgers being in Pittsburgh, the Cleveland Browns are gonna have to make a splash. I don't know where they're gonna go. I don't know who they're gonna get, but they don Browns are gonna have to make a slash. I don't know where they're gonna go. I don't know who they're gonna get,

but they don't have any choice but to make a slash. Cause you can't rely on your defense to be able to stop these teams. Now, cause here's the thing, you gotta score. The NFL's about scoring, that's why they instituted the rules because they like scoring. We like scoring, you know what I'm saying? Baseball, they like to see the ball go over the fence.

Basketball, they like to see people, they like to see one ball go over the fence. Basketball, they like to see people, they like to see 1-20-7, 1-40, 1-20-7. They like 1-45 to 1-43. That's what we like. We've always liked scoring. Baseball, I mean, maybe you go to Purist and he wants to see a 2-1 basketball game. I mean, excuse me, a 2-1 baseball game.

Right, right, right. Or in soccer, but no, Ocho, I don't wanna see that. Oh, excuse me, a 2-1 baseball game. Right, right, right. Or in soccer. But no, Ocho, I don't wanna see that. Excuse me, in hockey. No, bro, I won't put, hey, make it 6-5. Baseball, make it 10-11. Not what I wanna see, y'all. All that other stuff, I don't care about that. Right.

It's being reported the Steelers are also signing Darrius Slate. Ocho, you like that, boo? Yeah, yeah, Slate is going there. Boy, hey, hey, boy, listen,'m going to bangle that hard, right? I'm going to chat. Y'all stay with me real quick, man. Darius Slate is well capable of still being an elite corner

in this NFL. If you watched him play last year, if you've seen some of the clips that I saw, still, they still got it. Well, guess what? It's going to be put to the test. Because if Cincinnati bring back T. Higgins, Still, they still got it. Still got it. Still great with the buzz. It's gonna be put to the test. Because if Cincinnati bring back T. Higgins,

you gotta deal with T. Higgins, and you gotta deal with Chase. He gotta deal with Bateman, and he gotta deal with the other Zay Flowers. But listen, it's a good thing. I like it. The pairing, it's a nice pair now, might be two of the best pairings

outside of Marlon Humphrey and what's uh Nate Wiggins, I like Nate Wiggins too, he a little on the slim side but he nice. Joey Porter, Darrius Slate, I like that. I really like that, I'm telling you Chad, Slate still like that but again, you know how it go, age and numbers game. Yeah. Well, he gets to stay in Pennsylvania. He just got to move up a little. Yeah, yeah, it ain't too bad.

It ain't too bad. Nah. What's the numbers on Slate? Do we get the numbers? Oh, with one year deal, two year deal? I thought it was two when I saw it. I thought it was. Goddamn, Slate boy. Hey, Slate be out there like me oh you're right paid manny with the poor super bowl's old joke

hey slave be out there like I do when I you know when I used to play Kona bro nah you can't play no Kona who can't hey uh hey hey uh just stare, stare, read, break. Man, what was the real deal? The volume. What's up, everyone? It's Greg Rosenthal. And I'm teaming up with the king of spring, Daniel Jeremiah. He requires me to say that.

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