Club Shay Shay - Nightcap - Hour 1: Nuggets blow out Clippers in Game 7, & who’s winning in the Warriors vs Rockets Game 7?!

Episode Date: May 4, 2025

Shannon Sharpe, Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson & Quentin Richardson react to Nikola Jokic and the Denver Nuggets blowing out Kawhi Leonard and the Los Angeles Clippers in game 7, Oklahoma City faces the Denver Nuggets in the first round, & who is winning the Rockets vs Warriors game 7?!01:47 - Introduction03:33 - Clippers v Nuggs29:06 - Steve Bomber flew out memebers33:27 - OKC/Nuggs45:12 - Warriors on the brink of blowing another 3-1 lead(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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So go out and grab your tickets now. The Nuggets, crushed the Clippers. Don't let that 19 point victory throw you off. It was worse than that. They put the backups in and the Nuggets, excuse me, the Clippers made a little run there, but 120 to 101 and the Nuggets move on to face the Thunder with a four, three series win over the Los Angeles Clippers.

Tonight, I don't know what it is with James Harden in these game sevens, Q and Ocho, but it didn't go well. He's now lost game seven with four different teams. Tonight he was two of eight for seven points. With Philly, he lost to the Celtics going three of 11, nine points in 41 minutes. With Brooklyn, he lost to the Bucs going five of 11, nine points in 41 minutes. With Brooklyn, he lost to the Bucks, going five of 17, 29%. And with Houston, he lost to the Warriors,

going 12 of 29, he did have 32 points, but it took him 29 shots to get it. I didn't think he was nearly aggressive at tonight as he was in game six Q, and it showed, what was he, two of eight, one of four, two of two from the free throw line. He did have 13 assists, but they needed a Herculean Erfurt. They needed him and Kawhi to play like they played in game six in order to get them over

the hump on the road in game seven. And that didn't happen. What did you see that said, you know what, the Clippers just not where I think they should be right now? Q. that called that said, you know what? The Clippers just not where I think they should be right now. Q. Man, for me, I think they just got blitzed tonight. I think like you pointed out Hardee's numbers,

but I mean, he did have 13 assists and this could have been like, if this was a competitive game, his numbers could have gone up, but obviously we know, like you said, it was a blowout early on, you know, Joker didn't even go crazy. It was like the other guys, the supplemental guys,

really came out, applied the pressure, their tempo was up. The Clippers were flat, surprisingly, for a game seven. They were flat. It looked like they didn't have it early on. And Denver mashed the gas and literally just, they just blew them out. They looked good in the first quarter. They outscored, they had a five point lead

heading into the second and then Denver goes on and wins that quarter 37-21. And then they opened the third on a 17-3 run, get it up to 17-3 and then get it up to 24-4 and they never looked back from there. So between the second quarter and third quarter, the Nuggets outscored them 72 to 40. From down five to start at the end of the first, now you go to the fourth and you're down 27. Yeah. And it didn't look good. Yeah I agree with you Q. You look at Aaron Gordon played

sensational. He'd been playing sensational because even when when Joker, you know, Joker, you know, there were one game he had a 14 point triple double and they blew the doors out of him. But you get six players and double figures, Russ off the bench again, an excellent night. 27 minutes, five to nine. Shout out to Brody. Yeah, man, he played well.

Kristen Brown, 21 points. Jamal Murray, 16. Yoke, 16, 10 and eight. Michael Porter Jr. siding tonight, 15. And Aaron Gordon. Aaron Gordon's been doing a great job. He gets on the glass, he's scoring, he's doing a heck of a job on Kawhi Leonard,

he's making Kawhi. Kawhi's hitting some shots, but he's making tough shots. And you live with that. If I can make you make them tough shots, them spinning fadeaways and all that, hey coach, he made a great play on me, but I'm right there with him. Oto, you watched this game from the Nuggets standpoint. What did you like about what you saw from the Nuggets tonight?

I mean listen, I watched it from start to finish. The Nuggets dominated in every aspect of the game from the start to finish. The Nuggets, they were shooting 52% from the field. They out assisted Clippers 24 to 16. They controlled the tempo. They had much more want to for it to be a game seven. It seemed like the Clippers was flat. You know, like Q said, you got to want to be there.

You got to want to play. Obviously, it's a, you got a winner, you go home. They had no type of reassurance. Like they really wanted to be there anyway. Michael Porter Jr. delivered a two-way masterpiece out there many have 15 611 shooting and six rebounds But also the bench Joker did his thing Aaron go to this thing Westbrook bought energy on he only scored nine nine points But he bought energy from both. Oh, yeah 16. Five or nine. Yeah. Yeah 16 points Oh, okay. Five or nine was 16. The bench did well, too, but Westbrook Energy, though.

But that do something for a team, man. When he coming in, he might've got a tech, but man. That was intentional. What are you talking about? That was intentional. Oh, he did it on purpose? What, you didn't see what I saw? Yeah, he did it on purpose.

I thought he didn't want to let the rim go because somebody was going to land on Dude. No, sir. That was intentional. You didn't see when he landed. He said, yeah, give me the tech and I don't care. Get him the team up out of here. And whoever the upset, he's like, listen.

Yeah. You know Russ is the emotional dude, the passion. I loved it. I loved it. Look, if Russ is on emotional dude, the passionate dude. I loved it, I loved it. Yeah. Look, if Russ is on your team, you gotta ride the roller coaster because you know it's gonna be ups and downs. They're gonna be high, they're gonna be low.

It loads and you're just gonna have to ride that wave. Some days he's gonna give you this. And then some days you're gonna be like, damn Russ, can you slow it down? Like, okay, have one energy drink, not four. And you know Cuz he gets out of control cuz he he plays so hard on both ends of the court And he's gonna give you that's one thing you'll never have to worry about Russell Westbrook is cheating you you gonna get your money's worth

now Like I said and you got to ride it tonight. He was what they needed What was that that game that they won on the road? And they ended up, what's the word, Aaron Gordon dunked it home. Russ provided the energy in that game. I like this. Look, it's going to be a very interesting series now

with the Thunder and the Nuggets. Nuggets have been there before. The Thunder has been the best team in the Western Conference all year. Everybody wanted to see, well, when they play somebody that's been there before. The Thunder's been the best team in the Western Conference all year. Everybody wanted to see, well, when they play somebody that's been there with experience, let's see how they shape up. But looking at this game, the Clippers, Q, you know when you go on the road, bro, you got to take it. They're not going to give it to you because it's their fans.

You've got to get the crowd out of it. If you don't get the crowd out of it and they mess around and get a lead on you, all of a sudden the roof's gonna explode, and it's just an avalanche. Boom. Colorado Avalanche. And it just swells on you. And I'm like, bro, and T. Lou tried to get a timeout, but I think what happened,

T. Lou did something very interesting in game six. He inserted Nicholas Betoone to start the second half. Now you're out of tricks. He tried, he put Derek Jones Jr. in the starter lineup for Chris Dunn. But at some point in time, they're like, okay, this is gonna be our adjustment. When Nicholas Bethune is in there,

because he didn't have near the impact that he had in game six because he caught him by surprise. They didn't make that same mistake tonight in game seven because they know when he comes in, knowing that if it was a Bethune, it probably gonna be somebody else other than Chris Dunn They didn't make that same mistake tonight in game seven because they know when he comes in Knowing that if it was a platoon You're probably gonna be somebody else other than Chris done because Chris done is more of a defensive guy Then an offensive guy and they won't space they won't space for Kawhi They won't space for James Harden, but for whatever reason James Harden was not nearly necessary

But if you look at these numbers Q what nobody nobody really aggressive. Kauawe had 13 shots in 33 minutes. And that's why I say we can't be that critical of Harden for having, you know, only eight shots. But he had, like I say, having 13 assists, you cannot be aggressive and have 13 assists out there. Like James was playing, he was making plays. And this is, like I say, because of, like you say, the lead swelled and it became such a blowoutout it kind of takes away from him his chance to go out there because James Harden is the point guard so him having 13 assists

He's out there doing his job because he was out there finding people and making plays and making things happen It's not like he's two for eight and isn't doing anything else. He had 13 assists and five, six rebounds. He was out there playing, but the blowout robbed him of his chance to accumulate and go out there and get aggressive later in the game, whereas where he come out, people may say he should've came out being aggressive as opposed to trying to get guys into the game, but I feel like he came out playing the past first game,

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Presented by Capital One, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports. sports. Listen, based on what we saw the night for the Nuggets, I know, I know the Clippers didn't show up, they didn't play well, but based on what we saw tonight and them having to play the. Yeah. In a seven game series, how damning do you see the Nuggets team? Now that the bench, we know what the, we know what the starting five would do. Now that the bench is contributing the way they are

what chance do you have against them against the Thunder well the thing is Russ is mainly the bench their guy they don't get a whole lot Deandre Jordan really doesn't play a lot he played tonight Yoke got in foul trouble in the third quarter and he came in but he doesn't normally play a lot every once in a while they'll insert Peyton Watson and he mainly plays but for the most part they play five guys That's that's what they play. They play five guys They run their starters and they play Russ Russell get extended minute and Peyton Watson to come in somewhere anywhere between 10 and 15 If things are going really well, he might play kick hit a 20

But for the most part, they run their starters. And that's what you do with, hey, man, we ain't got no deep rotation. What you mean rotation? Guys gonna be playing, tell them, you guys gonna be playing somewhere between 38 and 42 minutes on a nightly basis. As you go further, they play more.

Hey, respectfully, I just felt like moving forward, like whether Denver won or lost this series or whatever happened, I felt like when they fired Michael whether Denver won or lost this series or whatever happened, I felt like when they fired Michael Malone, that they weren't serious about competing for a championship. We all are former athletes, fellas. When have we seen a team that's serious

about trying to win a championship fire their coach, who also won them their only championship in franchise history three days before the playoffs began. I've never seen that my entire time in the NBA. I've never heard of that. I mean, you guys can correct me if it happened in football, but I've never seen that in some team go on and not now. You do have Joker, who was all world,

one of the top two, three guys on the planet and playing. And he can get you so much. And you've seen these, this series, that they've had guys jump up and play and raise to that level. But I think the bug definitely stops here with OKC. Like you just said, they play five, six guys, and this is a young team.

This guy, they go A-9-D. A-9-D. And they got three in D. They got trumps in what's the best position in the league? Wings, right? Wing players are three and D guys that can play both sides, they can shoot threes and play defense. They got trumps in that.

They got plenty of them. They can send one in and send another one out and keep on rotating. So like, and then they got the ultimate trump in SGA and I don't feel like, I feel like he's the equalizer. I don't know that Denver got no answer for that. Hold on Q, so basically you and Unc, y'all on the same page. So you saying the Thunder's gonna win

the series against the Nuggets? Yeah, I got the Thunder for sure. Okay. Yeah, I mean, it's gonna take a Herculean effort from Yoke and Murray. Now, did you get that Murray that you got on the road? Okay. No, that was home.

That was that Murray that dropped 43? I don't, listen, my questions don't even come with Joker or none of that. I just question, I feel like Joker and AG, Aaron Gordon, like first of all, AG is a championship player. Like I feel like he's underrated. He's one of the best glue guys to, like, slash do whatever you need.

Swiss Army knife type guys in the league that can score 30 or score 10 if you need them to, not be a guy that's got an attitude, gonna show up with the work pick and go to work every day and give you everything. But I feel like those have been, like, two of the most consistent players for the Devs. I have many questions about either one of them,

but like you say, if Jamal Murray show up like superstar Jamal Murray, that could change the series and it could make a real contest if he does that. But I think he tips the scales one way or the other, whether he play, if he plays really well, this could be a six, seven game series and anybody could win it. But if he doesn't really go out there

and play at an all-star, superstar level, the Thunder's not about to be contested by them. They don't got, if he's not playing and giving you 20 to 30, they don't have enough firepower. Yeah, they need Laker Jamal Murray, the guy that played against the Lakers in the no back to back series,

that hit game winners and was letting it go and routinely being in the 30 points. They need that guy. Hey, hold on. Let me say this one time though, cause you just, you just brought them up. What happened to the Lakers? Lakers is fine. What happened?

Hold on. I can't be on here and not ask that question. Cause listen, I was one of the people that was early on when they deal with they did, I'm like, man, JJ, my man, my, I'm like, they, they, they looking good. Man, they had a legitimate chance, but what happened? What happened? Q, they needed a big, you can't, I mean, I mean, look, look.

And the Mark Williams kid would have been great because he could defend and he could score. When you got Jackson Hayes, and Jackson Hayes is only playing four minutes, and now you go Rue and LeBron, so whichever one's playing the four, the other's playing the five, that's a small, small team. And you saw Rudy Gobert look like Prime Shaq.

He looked like a 2000 Shaq, 2001 Shaq, 1999 Shaq. So you told me Rudy Gobert was gonna give you 27 and 24, I said, man, get that bleep out of here. That man ain't never scored 27 and 24. I said, man, get that bleep out of here. That man ain't never scored 27 and 24. And that's what happened. I mean, look, Ant-Man did his, the role-players for the Timberwolves played much better than the Lakers.

You look at Nas Reid. Every time he was asked to knock down a big shot, he knocked it down. McDaniels, he knocked it down. You get the consistency of the steadiness of Mike Colley. Even Vincenzo came in and gave him some quality minutes. But Ant-Man did his thing. But Rudy Gobert didn't have the size.

And you can't, normally what happened, Rudy Gobert becomes unplayable in situations like this, especially late in the fourth quarter. Dude, I did a whole game. How y'all let Rudy stay out here like this. Not like that. Just stay out here. He was, he was the most dominant force in the league that night.

Yeah. We'd be back. What, what, what, what did you think? What did you think of Ant-Man walking, walking from the Staples? Oh, yeah, you see the idea. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

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He walking like that. Like a little six minute walk from the, I'm sorry, the crypto. I'm old school. You see the Clippers jersey. I can't get it out of my head. But from the Staples to the Ritz over there, like a little six minute walk, I think he wanted to go ahead and enjoy it. Yeah, he walked all the way.

He walked all the way. He walked all the way. He walked all the way. He walked all the way. He walked all the way. He walked all the way. He walked all the way. He walked all the way. He walked all the way. He walked all the way. I'm old school, you see the Clippers jersey, I call it, I can't get it out of my head, but from the Staples to the Ritz over there, like a little six minute walk, I think he wanted to go ahead and enjoy it.

Yeah, he walked all the way, all the way around the whole guts of the building. Man, listen, there are a few players, there are a few players in NBA that are like that, and he's one of them. He's one of them. All I know is this. He's accessible, and he's relatable.

That's why he should be the face of the league, whether he want to or not. And you know what I think make him so relatable though, cause like, think about it. Think about what I'm about to say, fellas. When you think, especially about the NBA, when you think about, if you take Allen Iverson out of the equation, cause AI was, he one of one,

he did it his way and that was his thing. You take AI out of the equation, right? You think of the last 20, 30 years, every hot shot superstar or about to be the guy rookie that's coming to the league, they more careful than Ant-Man, you know what I'm saying? Like, Ant-Man, like they, most guys won't come out and say, yeah, give me, I'm a dog this dude,

I'm a dog that dude. Yeah, I wanna play like, like most guys would say the politically correct thing just because that's the right thing to do or whatever, right? Like, and foregoes any of that. He literally says whatever he's thinking at that point. Like, yeah, like, what you mean?

And the part about it is like that we, that I feel like our community relate to it, is the brashness. He walking it like he talking. And the boy building up a resume is to go, like, by the time he get through, I don't know who gonna be the do-all on that hit list, but it's like the way he walking people down

and talking it, and he only 23 years old, and he like really out here like, because the thing about it is like, when you watch MJ and the Last Dance, when he's sitting in that scene, and he got the bat, and he got the cigar, he like, yeah, anybody can talk on their way up. He like take a real man to say it before they have.

Ant-Man out here talking it before, during, and after. And after, yeah. You feel me? Like, and like that, we love that. But at the end of the day, during, and after. And after, yeah. You feel me? Like, and like that, we love that. But at the end of the day, Q, it don't matter. If you don't get them rings, you just gonna be talking. Oh, no, he got, listen, we all know that. He got, all I'm saying, we know that.

You know, you got to get that to go with, trying to go, you, that's factual, he got. But what I'm saying is that he building up a resume on his wife. He's taking out KD and his girl. He's taking out LeBron and Luca. He said he's taking out all the greats and won they first one. He only 23, so what I'm saying.

He got plenty of time. It ain't a lot of people that did what he didn't did on they way at 23 yet either though. Yeah, I still think he needs, I think he needs another piece though. I mean, I loved you. Hey, Jew Randal was unbelievable. But you know what you gonna get with him.

He's a solid guy, he's gonna get 20 and 10. He's gonna bang on you, bang on you. And Ant-Man gonna give you what he gave you, but Rudy Gobert, I thought, no, Jay McDaniel, I thought his game, because there were a couple of games that, that first game, he was sensational. Ant made all the right plays With the assist total and then the uh, what that game 40 let him go

Hey, why did let him get what was that game three a game four? He went hey, why and got 43 When jj, you know, he's no smartest guy in the room. I'm gonna run these guys lebron on 40 old leg 46 minutes Luca on that body 46 minutes. Yeah. You can't do that. You can't. You got to steal. When they up by 10, steal your two minutes. Say, I don't care guys, you come down and get shot clock violations.

Just get me two minutes off the clock so I can get LeBron and I can get Luca two minutes. That's all I need. Because LeBron was dead tired. The man took two shots. One of them was terrible and one of them, he just, he blew a smoke to lay up.

Yeah. He was tired. There ain't no way around it. 40 year old legs playing 46 minutes, Q. First of all, you know it's like to play 46 minutes in your 20s. Now imagine that. 30, 35, 40?

You right, you right, but uh, and JJ's defense, man, 35, 40? You right, you right, but in JJ's defense man, like we, and I'm not calling any names, but I mean we all have examples of veteran championship coaches doing some of these same things that leave us questioning what was going on and what was happening and why the decisions they were made, you know what I'm saying? I feel like when I look at the overall body of work, JJ had did a great job this season.

You know what I'm saying? Like did they come up short? And I feel like also the expectations got kind of blown out of proportion at a certain point because they had done so well. And we got to give JJ and that staff that credit for coming out of the second half, having a total different look from changing from having Anthony Davis as an anchor to going and getting Luke and then still coming out and making their

team look formidable and rushing surge into the third seed is what was made everybody get all of these thoughts like they could actually win when in reality they were the roster was never really fit to win. It can really compete truly, but people gotta, you know, fans are fans and even us as analysts and people that's been a part of the game, we kind of get caught up in the moment sometimes, but like they, when you really look at it,

like you said, they didn't have enough. When the Mark Williams trade didn't go through, that kind of was it in a nutshell. Like I felt like what we saw from him post-trade showed that he could have been formidable for them if they would have made that trade and they would have allowed it to go through. But for whatever reason, or unbeknownst to us,

they didn't do it and that's what it is. But I felt like from that point, they truly weren't a championship roster, but the greatness of LeBron and Luca gave us the feeling that maybe they could carry him there, but they just couldn't at the end of the day. Look, Clippers got the richest owner in pro sports, had a healthy Kawhi, it didn't even matter.

You know why? Because we had buddy passes, and we wasn't going to Cancun until our partners So you know a buddy pass you fly two for one. You know what I'm saying? You fly two for one. Hold up. They'll be coming in shortly. I'm sorry. We have some technical difficulties. We really don't but we're just waiting on the Clippers to join us as Cancun. Yeah, that's what's gonna happen. Oh, y'all thought y'all gonna be celebrating, Hachu?

I know you got your little jersey in the back. You thought y'all gonna be celebrating. Ah, yeah, yeah. No, you're not. No, you're not. Man, that's a size 60. That ain't no little, what you talking about, my little jersey?

You definitely ain't. You know how black folk do. When we get on the cars, oh, I see your little car over there. I see a little call So we all know how we Teens are drafted us. We got a special connection with them. So, you know, that's why that's back there. That's what that is Hey Q, you know how we do it you get a job oh you still in that little job you still get that little job. Right. Yo what you mean little job?

You still got your little business you know what I'm saying. Yeah. Yeah. I'm like you just gotta be little bro. Hey that's us that's our people every time. Yeah I mean Q I know you were gonna come over here you were gonna come over here and gloat tonight you know the clip but you know you're gonna say they go to fire. You know I'm saying you're gonna come over here and gloat the night, you know, the clip, but you know, you're gonna say, They go to the fire. You know what I'm saying? You're gonna come over here and gloat.

But I had already put that call in the yoke. Normally, Ocho put the call in, but I put that call in the yoke. And Aaron Gordon said, look here, man, I need y'all to handle this for us. Now y'all took Doc this side to play off two years in a row. I need y'all to do us a favor, because y'all got a fag for them LA teams putting them out of the playoffs. It's like, we got you. And she was formed.

I lost my ability to glow when I was, because I'm really, I'm down here in Orlando. You know, I'm with the Magic. So I'm riding with the young boys down here. So don't worry. This year we had some injuries and some setbacks. The next year we going to be barking loud. You know what I'm saying?

We going to be barking loud. Bang Carol and Ross Wagner? Yeah, yeah. Oh, they legit. They and boy back. They legit. Yeah, yeah. We can get Suggs

and the brother Moe Vagner back. Moe the one who chippy. He the one who bring the, you know, the physicality and you know, get a little chippy out there. But once we get back to full strength and I'm excited to see, you know, what they're gonna do on the off season and you know, whatever they do to adjust this and that.

But like, we got a good young coach. We got a good young team, you know, we got Pick still in the draft, and I think we got flexibility to improve or whatever they gonna do, and we gonna be ready. But I still got Boston, so I wasn't coming to hear the brag on. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I'm rolling with JT and JB over there. They fully loaded, they back ready to go. Well, you definitely gonna have to, if y'all gonna talk about, you come do something to ease, y'all definitely gonna have to get past them. Cause they ain't going nowhere anytime soon. That's a fact, that's a fact.

Oh yeah. Hey, take a look at this now. Steve Barmer flew out members of the wall to Denver for game seven tonight. Steve Barmer covered airfare tickets buses to the game You think more owners should do things like this cute, Ocho? I love it. I love it. I mean So, you know, yeah

Mm-hmm You've not very many owners are open like brother bomber though Not very many owners get open like Brother Balmer though. Not very many owners get worth $120 billion either. Let's start with that damn open. But listen, even despite his worth, you can see he's really invested. Not just the team, but the players and the fans as well. He's different. He operates different as the owner. Not like most.

So I don't see other owners even taking. Can you imagine Jerry doing something like that? No. If you look at him, he's a more amped version of Mark Cuban. Q, you remember how Mark Cuban would be on the sideline with his team, doing something, he'd pump with his fist.

That's Steve. No, listen, I'm gonna tell you, forget it, even past the fan standpoint, like when Steve, I mean, when, when, when Mark Cuban came into the league, even if players didn't really act on it, like everybody wanted to play for the Mavs just because of the way they was getting treated. Oh, yeah. From the, they had the, they had the planes, they had the new facilities and everything. That's, that's how Balmer then made it.

He's like, everything they do for them is like, second to none. Everything is top tier, second to none, like top-notch situation and everything you hear about it and it's like, the players love the way they get treated. Like, not just the players, like you say, the families, the fans, like when this dude flying out that many fans, it's like, yo.

And he genuinely excited to do it too. Like he's doing stuff like, man, if I could've did this, if I was, like that's the type of stuff he's really gifted to people, it's like, for real, a fan's dream because he's the biggest fan. And that's what I was about to say. He's a fan that had a boatload of money, and said, you know what, I want an NBA team. And that's what I was about to say. He's a fan that had a boatload of money. He said, you know what?

I want an NBA team. And you know what I'm gonna do? I'm gonna pay four times the asking price because prior to that, most of our team had ever sold for was Sacramento over 500 million. Here drops 2.2 billion. Cool.

I have a question. I'm not to be counting nobody's pockets, but his wealth How do you how do you attain as well Microsoft? He was the CEO of Microsoft? Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay, and So when you do it, so I know the owners will have it like whoop cuz we ain't never hey ain't nobody going down So from that point on is three billion and you see the Celtics just sold for six point six point one billion Yeah, he thought I think he purchased them for like 400 million. So he's got 15 times his own return.

Well, they call it 15X. Now you say 15X, it's 15X his money. But like you said, he's a fan. Not, look, a lot of times, I don't know if like Steve Barman strikes me or the guy Q correct me if I'm wrong. Even if he didn't own a team, he would go to the game and be acting just like he does. Yeah. These other owners, they're not going to the game and behaving like that. They're gonna be up in the bar.

He would sit right down there on the floor and behave in the manner in which he would behave. I didn't understand. Cause you could see the enthusiasm. Whether people knew at can see the enthusiasm. Just pouring out of him. He'd definitely be a guy you'd love to play for. I mean look, hey don't worry about the tax payout, I don't want your money, I'll be on my own stadium. Damn you.

Hey don't add no sales tax, don't bring the hotel tax, I got all this. Stay the dark. And watch this, I'm about to put more bathrooms and y'all could believe in this thing and I'm gonna be hyped about it. Yeah, cause he's like, he don't want, he don't want the, he don't want nobody

missing any part of the game. So he don't want no long lines. Right. Gotta love him. I gotta, I gotta, I gotta, I gotta check that arena out, man. You been there you've been I haven't been there. They just opened it this year. I Start game is there next year, right? You I think is yeah, I think so. I got I gotta get out there, too

I ain't been out there neither. Yeah, I want to check it out Mmm Thunder Nuggets Western Conference semifinals Thunder eight days rest nuggets 24 hours of rest to Who do you have winning and in how many games? I hate picking the games and all that. I got the Thunder winning. I guess I would say, I would say about six games. Damn, that's what I was gonna take.

I was gonna take the thunderous six also. Who do you like it on, Joe? Man, listen, I like, damn, that's a good one. I like SCA, I like the rest of them boys, I like the bench, but them damn Nuggets, man, they not too far coming removed from a championship. They got experience being in the playoffs. I know they don't have as much depth,

but I got it, I got it, Nuggets and Sev. I mean, SJ is a load, man. And the thing is that look, when you got, they got two bigs, they got Chet, and they got Hardenstein, they can throw at Yoke. They got depth, as Q was talking about earlier, they got wing defenders. You go Lou Dort You got Caruso you got Wallace you got Azele Joe you got Williams. They got five guys

Five so at all time they're gonna have two to three premier wing defenders on the court At all times there are very few teams that can say that Yeah I mean that as a matter of fact, there ain't no other team that can say that, that can have that many wing defenders on the court at all times. Because Lou Dort and Lou Dort and Williams. Williams is the guy that's going to, they'll probably put on, no, they'll probably put Dort, I think they're going to put Dort on Jamal Williams, Jamal Murray.

I think they'll go start with that. And they all could make a three. They all with that. And they all could make a three. Huh? They all could defend, but they all could make a three too. Yes. I think Kristen Brown is gonna start off on SGA. I don't think Gordon will start on him. Gordon matches up better against bigger guys,

not as quick guys. SGA is a little bit too, I think he's a little bit too quick for AG, although that body might wear him down. Let me just say this about SGA, right? Y'all saw how many times he scored 20 points in the road. How many times he scored 30 points? Yep.

That mean can't nobody in the NBA stop him. Regardless of size, regardless of skill. I'm talking about it don't, regardless of anything, go show the numbers. Show that like, look at what he averaged. Look at how many times he scored what he scored. When you do that in the NBA, that gives you the right to look, spin me around with my eyes closed and stop me wherever I look. Nobody can't guard me.

I'll keep direction on point and they cannot guard me. That's what he has shown. And this ain't just one. This has been two, three years running. 30 and putting up 30 this many times and 20 like, bro. 30 on efficient 30. Now you can get 30 and shoot 45%. He's shooting over as a guard to get that many points and to be that efficient.

There ain't a whole lot of guys that's ever done that in the NBA. He could say, you can't guard me, and they could ask you, they could ask him, who you talking to? He say, whoever listening. Whoever listening, whoever heard me, they can't guard me. Whoever heard me.

You know the thing is, Q, when you dealing with a player like that, you right, but I'm gonna make it as tough, I'm gonna try to make it, you get that, you get 32, but it's gonna be inefficient. You're gonna shoot 10 or 27. That's what you're supposed to do. I'm not finna let you go 19 or 26 on me,

cause now all of a sudden that's gonna be damn near 50. Because I know you're gonna get to the foul line. You're gonna get to the foul line at least 10 times now. Just throwing out like about the playoffs. They don't call that tiki-taka stuff at the playoffs. You got to damn near draw blood to get a foul in the playoffs. Hey man, you see he ain't playing about. When the last time he played like eight days ago.

Yeah, like, that's because they was dishing out that work. Mm-hmm. You know the thing is birthday parties, he chilling, doing commercials and stuff like, you ready. The best game for the Nuggets to steal is game one, because they might be a little rusty with all that time off.

If you notice- That's not a real thing. Huh? That's not a real thing. That's not. You don't think so? No, I feel like that's a narrative that we use after the result of the game comes out. If they come, if OKC come out game one

and beat them by 20, nobody's gonna say nothing about rust. They gonna say, oh no, they gonna say the rest was good for them, but like yeah, clearly if they lose, they gonna say, oh they was rust. Nah, we as athletes know like bro, you could have a week of rest or you could play the next day. It just depends on how you feel.

They ain't got nothing like, you know what I'm saying, some of us that had some of our best games you could play the next day. It just depends on how you feel. Right. It ain't got nothing like, you know what I'm saying, some of us that had some of my best games on the back to back or your best games and you dead tired, but you didn't think you was gonna have, but it just, you know what I'm saying, like to me that's a narrative that we use or it is easy to use after the result of the game comes out.

How many times during the regular season do you get eight days off? Mm. Outside of all-star break you don't That's my point You normally because there's you can't simulate what you actually do in the game by doing shoot-a-rounds and them scrimmage is five on five Or three on three or whatever you guys do through you have there's nothing like game situation Right a game situation You got those like those guys haven't had a game situation in a game situation. And you got, those guys haven't had a game situation

in a very, very long time. And if you look at, I thought the Lakers having all that time off, no, what you call them, they was already locked into the 3C, I mean the 6C once they won that game, and I think the Warriors lost. But we'll see, we're going to see SGA, it's gonna be interesting, because I think,

like you said, I think Christian Brown is gonna start on SGA. But I think the thing is people don't realize how tall SGA is. He's not a small guard. He's 6'7". You know, people looking at him like he's 6'3", 6'4", he's not.

He's tall as hell. I've seen him up close. He's taller than you think. And he's more physical than people think. Hey, you think them having so many days off going to this next series, you think having that much time off will do more harm than good, or you think the opposite? I think the thing is that that first game, cause a lot of times, especially at home,

you're like, you try to fill your way in, you try to let the crowd build up and teams race out to a big lead on you, they get you. So that's why it's like, hey, let's go ahead and try to get this first game. Cause we know that we're going to get the best, that first, that best effort. And since we're here, we might as well try to stoop but yes I think the

best game for them to try to get is game one so what they come out smack them game one and what if them eight days were used to like hey we had some guys they had some little knickknacks bang little you know son this that dating guy healthier and he'll that day the practice and ramped back up and get ready for the games, and we still done got healthier too. Because like you said, when else during the season do you get eight days to rest?

You don't. So whatever knickknacks you get, we all know you, them coming with you for the rest of the way. What about rhythm of shooting, and doing all those things that you normally do every day or, excuse me, not every day, but every other day,

or every two to three days? They're a young team for all intents and purposes. They shouldn't have been having those days up. This is a young squad. They're the young NBA, they average 24 years old for their team. So maybe they take a day or two, the first day of, but even then,

y'all should have been in and out of the gym, getting activated, doing some weights, doing something, just getting some shots up, not going crazy, but they shouldn't have had days where they didn't do anything. That'll be dropping the ball if they've actually done that. They should be, all of those dudes are young boys. They ain't got no real OGs or all heads on their team

like that to really be like, we not doing nothing today Every day they should have been doing something even this light load They should have been coming in and just getting some free throws getting some treatment getting a body activated and just staying ready Yeah, well they should ain't nothing to do in Oklahoma. So yeah, they should have been in anyway Off in Oklahoma, I don't know if you're been to Oklahoma, but ain't nothing popping off. Hey, man, you forgot I went to Langston University. Oh, I forgot you did with the Langston.

Yeah, I went to Langston. Yeah, I know about steel, water, coil. Yeah, I didn't really stop the ground for a little bit. So you know, ain't nothing jumping off. So you're right. That's why they so good. Imagine that young team in Miami, Atlanta, LA. Ooh! Out of distractions. Miami, Atlanta, LA.

Ooh. Out of distractions. Bro, lots. Lots. Guys can get focused. Sometimes that's the best thing. Go to a destination and a lot poppin' off. You can focus on what you need to get focused on.

You can get done what you need to get done. Right. But SGA was gonna be, SGA was gonna be what he was gonna be in LA. All right, you seen that maturation. You see it year after year. That dude got better and better, better and better, better and better.

He masked, hey, he got stepped back, he's a three level scorer, he can get all the way to the rim, he got a middie, he got a three game, he got a snatch. He going to the free throw line eight to 10 times a game and you mess around, he might go 15. But because he just needs to understand out there the way he got this swagged out, the way he got this cocky, this confident. Repetitions.

Yes. It is a gem, right? This don't happen by mistake. Every move, just name, just step. Him doing it that smooth and making it look that nice, that don't happen by surprise. That don't happen because he rolled out of bed and he, nah. That's reps, that's going to the gym constantly and putting in that work to where it ain't even a question.

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The Warriors are on the brink of world-blowing another 3-1 lead throughout NBA history. There have been 290 instances in which a team has gone 3-1 in the playoffs this series. Only 13 times has the team come back to win. The Warriors know all too well about blowing a 3-1 lead. Is there one of the 13 teams to do so? Q, who you got tomorrow night? Man, this is a tough one for me, because you know, game sevens,

you throw everything out the window, but I can't not roll out with the light-skinned assassin and Jimmy Buck and Draymond, just with the experience they got, man. Like, if I'm wrong, I take that to the chin, but just with the inconsistencies of the young boys over there in Houston, I gotta- No, inconsistency of Jalen Green, go ahead and say that.

Everybody else, hey, Fred Van Fleet, the last five games have been on one. Hey, that's the listen. I feel like we don't even respect like Fred Van Vliet is a champion, a dog, you know what I'm saying? Like he gotta give him proper respect. He doing what I expect him to do. He over there and like win, lose, or draw,

Houston Rockets is gonna be back. Win, lose, or draw, they gonna be right back like they forgot something. They got, even they got them boys growing. I love what, I love, you know what I'm saying? Like we talking about Van Vliet being a veteran OG out there. People to get it done and then pack the game and be able to show them and say what he's saying

and it means something, cause he out there. So I like what they got going on, but even still with that being said, I don't know. You got, when you got that little dude number 30, then all it take is, if he hit one, it's now we in the matrix. He turned into Neo and everything else, it don't matter.

We'd have all seen it happen. The game could hinge on that right there. If he come out and make one shot and start looking funny, if he give you a little shimmy, it's curtains. You know what I'm saying? It's like it'd be a long night. And it's like, I don't know, like you say with the, with the, to me when I say inconsistencies with Houston,

it's like they don't know where they gonna, where they gonna get they scoring from, from night to night. It's like, it's nice. Like you know who leads them in scoring and you know who you would expect to do it. But like, it's not, it's not concrete. You can't hang your hat on it like, ah, we going such and such from this player or that player.

It's like, it might be anybody. And when you got something like that, it's hard for me to roll the dice with that. Yeah, look, Shinguun has been sensational. He's been doing a great job. He leads them in points, rebounds, assists, and steal. I thought I may inserting Steven Adams. He was the difference maker last day of the night. He gave him rebounding. He gave him toughness.

He did all the right plays, you know, that he went to Hacker Adams. He made nine of 16. And sometimes I think that takes the team out of their rhythm because you know You don't get a flow you stop you don't get to go up and down But if I don't know what Fran Van Fleet did from games three through six, I mean four through six He'd been on one. Yeah, I mean he's been on one I mean he's I'm talking about he's coming down on the break and he like now you under the basket I don't want the two. I want this pull up. I want this 26 foot pull up. Yeah, and it's been it's been money. I

Like what they're doing when it comes to step because and he tried to come up that peak They doubling make him get a ball up cuz I don't believe look Dreymon. I'm not worried about Dreymon You know the Dreymon always take the first shot cuz he wide-ass open. They go leave mode, too You're not fit to make eight of those. Steph Curry can. So you shoot as many of them as you want, Draymond. We not gonna worry, we not gonna worry ourself with that. But what we will worry ourself with

is to make sure Steph don't get a, don't catch fire on us. Keep Jimmy Butler off the free throw line cause you know he's gonna tack the basket. It's gonna be interesting to see Steve Curl how does he play this thing because remember the other night he started Gary Payton the second. He went away from his normal lineup with Puzzimski. So does he go back to that queue or does he still does he ride does he ride with Gary Payton the second again or is Moody inserted into the starting lineup? What's he gonna do?, or is Moody inserted into the starting lineup?

What's he gonna do? I might start Moody and bring GP up because he's a pace changer to me. He comes in and is supposed to raise the energy and things like that if it's not right, try and get some defensive energy going. I would start Moody to see. I like what Moody's been doing. He presents a lot of length defensively, you know what I'm saying? And I would start him.

He's been shooting the ball. I mean, not as well as you'd want. What do you think? He's hit some big threes and really good. He's strong. He'll knock down a shot and he'll make some plays, drive to the basket. And like I say, most importantly,

he got a lot of lean defensively. And that's always big in these games. Ochoa, what you thinking? The Warriors gonna blow another 3-1 lead? Absolutely not. You know, Curry's not having another bad game like that. Listen, even what they try to do, trapping him, making all shots contested, it's not happening.

Listen, the Warriors have a championship pedigree and there's no way in hell they lose a game seven. Not like this. It's definitely not gonna happen. I think Draymond, Draymond can do what Draymond does. Jimmy Butler, like you say, he gonna get to the basket where they try to stop it or not. He's gonna be aggressive.

He gonna be playoff Jimmy like we used to see in him when he was with Miami. And Curry, he gonna cook. He gonna cook, especially after that last game. He's not gonna have another performance like that. I think Dre might need to make sure he stay within himself. Because I think sometimes he get going too early and he kind of gets himself out of rhythm. He gets early fouls, he gets tags.

And now he knows in a game like game seven, He gets himself out of rhythm. He gets early files, he gets texts. And now he knows in a game like game seven, they're probably gonna take early because he know they're not gonna throw him out. They don't wanna impact the game like that. So he has a very good understanding because most players to do with Dre, mine, done, oh, they'd be gone.

They'd be teed up, woo. Oh, what'd you say? Woo. Take that with you on the way. Yeah, you out of here, bro. Oh. Yeah, but they wouldn't do that on the way. Yeah. You, you out of here, bro. Yeah. But they, they wouldn't do, they wouldn't do, they wouldn't do that to him in the playoffs though.

Huh? No, that's what I'm saying. He knows that. Okay. Okay. I think sometimes it gets him, it gets him out of his game. Now sometimes he, he riles himself up. It gets the team going, but it had the opposite effect the other night.

It got the Rockets going. Yeah. Can goon. They was, they was proud of them on the glass. I mean, they crushed them. They crushed them on the glass. I mean, they crushed them. They crushed them on the glass. They had 25 off his rebound. That's part of J. Ma's superpower though.

He gotta play with that edge. He gotta play with the way he play. That's part of what makes him. If he doesn't play like that, he's not as impactful or as effective as he can be. Now, I agree with you. He gotta toe that line and tuck it in when he need to, but he absolutely gotta play like that

to be the most impactful and the best version of Draymond Green. Like you say, he can't step over that line, but he gotta toe it. And plus, that big lineup that Houston go out there with Sam Adams, with Steven Adams and Shungoom, the Warriors can't match up with that. That's why Adams and Shungun was killing him on the glass.

Cause you really, you don't wanna play Looney. You really don't. Cause he don't really give you a whole lot of offense. He sent picks and he could rebound. But Shungun's gonna punish whoever on the offensive end. And so now you got big Adams. They like, okay, now you take a shoot off the floor. We want you to play

You know they try to they try to put post out there Who's a big that can stretch the floor and shoot that but he's a little bit too inconsistent So if I'm a man, I'm gonna keep listening curry I'm gonna try to get the ball out his hand as much as I possibly can I'm gonna trap it every chance I get he goes to that corner. Hey, let the big guy roll We come we come from we get your help backside. But we're not letting Curry get no easy shots, huh? Listen, we talk about Curry, we talk about Jimmy,

we talk about Draymond, we ain't talk about the elephant in the room. What is Curry gonna do about Kaminka? Obviously you're mostly, one of your most athletic players. He lives in the second season against the Rockies. In the games during the regular season against the Rockies, he averaged the most points for the Warriors against them. So it only makes sense.

It only makes sense in the game seven to put him in there. I don't know how good he's gonna be. Steve Kerr said, Jonathan Gamingo returns to the rotation of the 100% on the table in game seven. 100% Gamingo is on the table. We kind of found a formula here in the latter part of the season.

We've stayed with that formula to start this series up three to one. Things are going well, and obviously last few games have gone very poorly. We have to access everything, the lineup combination, starters, all of that we have to assess. I don't know why he fell out of favor

and what happened with that, but did y'all see him the last time he got in the game? He didn't look like he was like, he didn't look locked in and look like he would be. I hope the young fella do get out there and ball out of his thing, but I hope so. From the looks of everything that he did last time,

it don't look likely. Don't look like he's mentally there. You know, like when you a young fella like that, I don't know how easy it is for you to get back into it. That's right. Hey Q, when you have a coach that is not playing you and you don't know what's going on or what happened, obviously we don't know from the outside looking in what happened internally.

But for you to be one of the best players on that team that can contribute on both on both ends of the court and then not get any playing time, it has to be something. It has to be something that we don't know publicly, but I mean, I hope his confidence is there. You know, after not playing for so long, some time, something like that can do something

to your mental. Obviously, when he does get in the game, is he gonna be gunshot? Is he gonna be scared to pull the trigger? Is he gonna be hesitant? I mean, if it was me, my boy, I'd be like, listen, I can't take it personal. He benched Jason Tatum. Who am I to be mad at him?

Okay, okay, okay. That's a good one. I'm just taking like a champ and keep him moving. That's a good one. You feel me? That's a good one. Yeah. I mean, real talk though.

Like, yeah, I don't know what Kaminga's done, but he's definitely been out of the rotation and he's one of the more athletic guys. He can defend, he can get all the way to the rim. He can not casually knock down the three, that's not his strong suit. But for whatever reason, hey, he don't even get no mop up minutes.

Like, damn, let me break a sweat so I don't have to get on the bike after the game. He can't even get no cardio in, he gotta get on the bike after the game after the city like I'm all Still and I got to get 30 minutes on the stationary bike And then you say he was getting shots up after one of the games and they think like that's a that's a little bad signal Like I'm hot Yeah, he probably said get me a y'all y'all ain't gonna play me. Get me out of here. Let me go somewhere. Hey, let me go somewhere. At least I can get dribblin'. I can play. I ain't saying...

Hey, look, I'm not saying I'm SGA. I ain't saying I'm one of the five, ten best players in NBA. But damn, I see guys that I know I'm better than and they're getting 10, 15 minutes a night. I can't get that. Yeah, I know a perfect place for him too. He'll be moving around. I know the perfect place for him too. Man, ain't nobody coming there. I know the perfect place, bro. Right here.

You think somebody always wanna go to the Miami Heat with them 1955 rules. Hey, listen, it ain't as bad as you think it is man. Listen, when you look at the look at the guys that go there, they have some of their best years of their careers when they go there. And look at the guys leave. I saw Dwayne Wade leave. I saw Jimmy Butler leave. I saw LeBron James leave. Now that's three of the best players that you've had in the last 15 years. Now tell me what I don't know Q. What you think about it?

But let me, let me, let me. Hold on, hold on, let me finish up. You can chime in after him Q. We all got family right? Yeah. Yeah. Sometimes, sometimes you get mad at John T. or your uncle or your cousin or even your mom boy or your brother or sister right?

I like that. I like where you're going. I ain't leaving him. They, they, he, they, look, he didn't leave for good. He left and went over his auntie house and then he came back over here and back to our courthouse. He came back. You think Jimmy, you think Jimmy coming back? I didn't say Jimmy came back.

I was talking about D-Way when we said that. Oh, yeah, okay, what about LeBron? LeBron going back to Miami? No, I said family. But I'm saying, the mere fact that family left, if I leave the house, yeah, I might come back when I'm on hard time. D-Way was a different type of family. Like D-Way was drafted, homegrown there.

That's Dade County. And he left. You can't say the same for LeBron or Jimmy, so it wasn't that same type of thing. Q, he left. You can't say the same for LeBron or Jimmy, so it wasn't that same type of thing. Q, he left. And came back, and they both admitted that it was some wrongdoings and reasons why they left, and they came together and pieced up, and it's all love. Yeah.

This is from them. This ain't mine. It's all love. But I see D Wade is part owner into Utah Jazz. He's sitting court side of the Utah Jazz. He's sitting coincided in Utah Jazz. Why isn't he sitting coincided in Miami? It's family now. No, no, no. Tell him that. D Wade do be sitting coincided in Miami.

He got a statue in Miami. And he's a part owner in Utah Jazz. And deservedly so. Because he's the smart businessman. And deservedly so. But we can't pretend like people do not, aren't fed up with Pat Riley and those archaic ways, Q. That's not being true. You hear it? But it can work, it can go two ways, though. You gotta understand that some of those same

ways that people being critical of are the reasons for some of the most brilliant careers that you talk about. The best version of LeBron James that you know was right there under those arcades. Proof. Tell me I'm wrong. I still like LeBron when he went back to Cleveland. No, you ask anybody in the league. That LeBron just two years back to back, please. Please.

That was hell on wheels. Boy, you hear me like please. You talking about- Okay, let's say that. Okay, and then what made LeBron leave? Both sides. Okay, he had his best years. And then what made LeBron leave?

You doing a 27 game winning streak. What happened Q? I don't know, I didn't hear- You know what happened? D-Wade said it, Norris told said it. Cookies being taken away. Real Chompers said it. I heard about Cookies being taken away.

I heard about all types of stuff. But I also heard that some of the same things that he ran from, that he tried to take with him and bring it, bestow on these other organizations when he went there. So it wasn't all bad. You already, listen, you already know, Rich, Mav is gonna be there every day.

Mav is my chief of staff. Not Mav, excuse me. What's the other one? Randy. Randy's gonna be there. Have you ever seen LeBron James anywhere without Randy? I have not. Whether it's out in Vegas,

whether, wherever the case may be, Randy's gonna be there. You look- So, Pat should've let him be there. Oh, he gonna be there. You want it, he gonna be there, don't want it. But you know, hello. You already know what you, when you sign up, if you get Yardy's, what,

you see where the Yardy's brother is? Where he at? Hey, time out, time out, though. You just said you already knew what you get when you signed up, right? Yes! You can't say that and then say that LeBron came to Miami as a free agent.

Knowing that the Godfather was the Godfather and the Godfather do what the Godfather does that he always has. You signed up for that. I did, but not for the be petty and take some damn cookies away. I ain't here to be cooking. Listen, somebody knew I didn't clean up my damn room. It could have been a headband, it could have been anything, but the cookies is what set it up. But like this is what you signed up for when you signed up for Chris Bodge. I ain't signed up for this. I signed up to come back here to get structure. I wanted to play with D-Way, Chris Bodge, and okay, it's supposed to be...

And it got you two championships, and it showed you how to go on the rest of the way and be a champion. Yeah. Hold on, hold on. Hey, we talk about the heat of the old. Let's talk about the new heat. Let's talk about the new heat. Pat, the new heat, it doesn't matter. It's still Pat running it. Don't think they're about to get somebody. No. Yeah, I'm trying to tell you. I'm trying to tell you. But you already know. That's what you that's what people always understood and knew. Pat Riley, the godfather, is always one move away.

How he got Kevin Durant here. He got shacked and then they win a championship. Like he always willing to swing for the fences and do what needs to be done. But he don't have the drive capital to do it. What are you gonna do? I think about it. He couldn't get Kevin Durant.

He could get Dame Lillard. So in order to get, well let's just say for the sake of argument, Kevin Durant. What do you think it's gonna take for him to get Kevin Durant? He gonna have to give up the hero and bam then what? Who could it get? Yeah, I don't think so. I told you I told you we're going to get I told you already told you already I

Told I think I sat down with Pat Pat Riley and Mickey Aarons not until Robert Ory I don't talk nice. Oh Joe. I don't told you already and I'm telling you I'm telling you too I told the pad I sat down with Mickey Harrison, and we gonna get Yonis, we gonna get John Marant. I'm trying to figure out what are you, but see here's the thing. The only team that have the pieces, they want assets because they gave up all those assets

to get said players. Q, you know how this thing work. A lot of times like, man, I wanna go over there. And when you get there, they had to gut it to get you. And so now you're there in the same situation you were in where you left from. They're not going to be able to, I don't see how they get to Kevin Durant in Miami and keep Bamb and Tyler Hero.

Oh, you talking about, I want Duncan Robinson and Hasmith? Hey, you'd be surprised what these deals shake out once these players step out and say that they wanna be moved. We used to think like guys ain't been like, been yielding what you thought. Like when you look at what Rudy Gobert got in his trade and then the trade-

He got four first rounders! Rudy! Yeah, what started happening after he did that? Nobody was getting all of them first rounders and it was looking, how did Rudy get, you get Rudy for all of this and you get such and such for all of that? That it wasn't going the same way,

they're not giving this much up, especially when these teams, like when you get put in that pigeon hole, like a player come out and say, hey, I want out. I want out. Like you done. You done, like, we ain't gotta be at your back and call because we're basically helping you at this point

because your dude just said he want out. So no matter what happens, you gotta get out. Or your situation is blown up. So at that point, if they exhausted to a certain point, it'll get bad. See, I told you. I told you. But here's the thing.

Why did it get that bad? Why did it get that bad? They couldn't make the pull the trigger for Dame Lillard. That question, I mean, I don't know the answer to that. I thought that was a done deal like everybody else. Cause they didn't want to give up Tyler Hero. I don't see a scenario where a team doesn't get Tyler Hero back as a piece.

Do you see that scenario? You never know, man. I didn't see a scenario on the planet where Dallas was trading Luka, but look what happened. Yeah. So I didn't learn my lesson. I didn't see Shaq get traded. MJ left the bulls. Anything could happen. So I didn't learn my lesson like I didn't see Shaq get traded. You know what I'm saying? MJ left the Bulls like anything can happen.

In the right circumstances, they'll do whatever they feel is the best. That's just how it go. And then they're going to tell you that's good business. You know what I'm saying? It was best for the organization. That's why I don't be mad when players go do what they got to do. Mm-hmm. I don't see it People been taught people been bad

Raleigh's boy had done had Kevin Durant when Kevin Durant was a free agent when Kevin Durant got traded when Kevin Durant was a Free agent and go to state he didn't go he did a well LeBron there was no so he couldn't go there Okay, when he became it when he goes to the Knicks, I mean the Nass Then what? No Pat Riley. He get traded to Phoenix. Still, no Miami Heat. At some point, Ty, I want you to give up. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Listen, I'm letting y'all go back and forth about it.

Hypotheticals already know what's gonna happen, I told you. So you got Yonison Jar. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We gonna work on the bench later on. Let me ask you this, when you get Yonison Jar, is Hero and Bam still there? I ain't get to that part yet I didn't even want to ask

For the record, let me just let both y'all know BAM not going nowhere No, no, no, no Alonzo and you did he's not going to break you No, but that's like that that's how they keep this thing going because they find that one pillar and they pass it On to the national and bestow it on to him. He'd be here. He appear All right. Yeah, it is And I don't see a scenario where team they're gonna want Tyler hero, you know that I know that Now maybe Phoenix said well we got Devin Booker,

we really don't need Tyler Hero because they basically play the same position. They both basically twos. Phoenix need a point guard. That's what Phoenix need. Phoenix was at their best when they had Chris Paul. Let's be all the way Will Q. Devin Booker can handle the ball, but he's a two guard.

I didn't like when they got rid of CP. I thought it would have been better even when they got Brad Bill, Devin Booker can handle the ball, but he's a two guard. I didn't like when they got rid of CP. I thought it would have been better, even when they got Brad Bill, Devin Booker, and KD, I thought if they had Brad Bill, that CP, they would have been better off with that score. I agree. I agree. The Volume.

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