Club Shay Shay - Nightcap Hour 1: Ocho, Ro Sparks package came in, George Foreman passes away, & Grant Holloway completes the Three-peat

Episode Date: March 24, 2025

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson react to Ocho receiving his new Ro package in the mail, George Foreman passes away at the age of 76, and Cooper Flagg puts on a show to beat Duke! Grant Holloway completes the three-peat in the 60m Hurdles and much more!!08:30 - Ocho has Ro Sparks12:00 - George Foreman passes away16:47 - All March Madness brackets busted25:36 - Cooper Flagg leads Duke against Baylor29:10 - Player complaints over overinflated balls33:00 - Ritchie McKay’s viral haircut38:52 - Grant Holloway clinches three-peat41:00 - Coach Prime and Asante Samuel beef1:03:00 - Giants still going after Aaron Rodgers(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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1968 who was regarded as one of the hardest punches in boxing history one of his most memorable punches He knocked out Michael Moore despite being down by all the scorecards in 1994 to reclaim his heavyweight championship belt at the age of 45. He was inducted into the both World Boxing Hall of Fame and the International Boxing Hall of Fame. Big George, if I'm not mistaken, George was the heavyweight champion in 1968 in Mexico City. George Frazier was there. Joe Frazier was the heavyweight champion in 64. I think if I'm not mistaken, I think it's Tokyo.

And then Ali was 1960 in Rome. And so we had a great, you know, boxing used to be, we used to dominate boxing. We don't do it anymore, Ocho. We used to dominate, America used to dominate the sport of boxing. And I think George, a lot of people remember for the loss that he had against Muhammad Ali in the Rumble in the jungle Some of his famous fights we knocked that need not he almost killed George Joe Frazier

Yeah, and that's what Muhammad Ali we're down goes Frazier Don't go Frazier And he kept knocking him down and Joe kept getting up until they finally finally knocked him out and the fight Was over one of his most famous fights guys if you get a chance go YouTube this fight now It's not artistically pretty right you talk about two guys just throwing haymakers. You will never see another heavyweight fight like this Foreman against Ron Lyle. Oh, okay. Okay. I don't know if you've ever seen a chat, but if you get an opportunity Yes, please watch this fight now. I Now, it's not a thing of beauty. It's not great defense. It's just two guys throwing haymakers upside each other's head and both fighters go down, get up, the other one down, get up,

knock the other one down. It's as good a heavyweight fight you'll see. Form and prevail. But and now I don't know how many people but he started this George Foreman grill. I Got three of them. Oh Joe. I had two smaller than I got the big one. That's about really. Yeah Yeah, I did when I when I was back when I was playing That's what we used to cook on so okay hamburgers We cook steak and things like that on the George Foreman grill And if you had one you guys know what I'm talking about. It had the lives on it. All you meat would always have those lives on it. But it was great.

And I'm so sad to see Big George because, you know, he turned his life over to God. He became an ordained minister. He got a big family, loved his kids, loved his wife, and unfortunately George Foreman passed away at the ripe age of 76. Oh man, listen, obviously, you know, and the people in the chat, I'm sure you guys know how enthusiastic and passionate I am about the sport of boxing and combat sports in general. Obviously, I wasn't old enough to be able to watch George Foreman, but I was able to go back and watch some of the fights with him and Ali, Joe Frazier, and some others. And he's one of the all-time greats. He's one of the all-time greats. And it's very sad to hear of his passing. And normally most of the time,

we celebrate when someone passes on. And I went back and watched some of his best fights. I watched some of his best fights. I wasn't in town at the time of his passing. So, I mean, it was sad to hear a legend, definitely a legend, legend gone. It is. It's so sad, but like I said, I mean, George, he loved his country because if you go back and look, he got the little American flag and he's waving them in the ring because he's proud to be an American especially in 68 everybody knows what was going on in the 68 that was the height of the civil rights movement if I'm not mistaken Dr. King had just gotten assassinated in April and I think the summer Olympics that just happened a little happened what's happening a little

later that summer and so America was on the edge. That's also Carlos and Tommy Smith being kicked out for raising on the podium when they finished one three in the 200 meters. Hey, hey, speaking of Mr. Smith, you know, when I was at Oregon State, the head coach, I mean, Oregon State, when I was at Santa Monica Junior College, my head coach was Robert Taylor, rest in peace.

Tommy Smith was a track coach at Santa Monica Junior College during my time there. Yep, yep. Yeah. That's crazy. So, George Foreman gone at the age of 76, gone but never forgotten. Well, remember his contributions to what he did for the sport of boxing, what he did for his community and George Foreman and I thought some prayers go out to him, to his family and all those impacted by the passing of George Foreman, gone at the age of 76. Ocho, March Madness has zero perfect brackets that remain. More than 34 million brackets was entered.

None remain perfect. It took 43 games, but number three Kentuckies, 84-75 over number six, Illinois, busted the final bracket. So, Ocho, this is the first time that a man's perfect bracket has lasted until the second round since 2019. In 2024, the last perfect man's bracket was busted in the 31st game of the tournament. Are you surprised that there are no perfect brackets remaining? Listen, I'm not surprised because if you look at the odds when it comes to having a perfect bracket

and winning prize money or winning something for having the perfect bracket, I mean you would know the chance of winning or having the perfect bracket is less likely than actually winning the lotto, if I'm not mistaken. Statistically, if it's like that the chance of having a perfect bracket you would have to almost guess or create multiple brackets at that to actually have one that goes perfect and have a different scenarios and the way games are gonna play out because if you look at it this only comes down to one game. It comes down to one game. I was excited and didn't even create a bracket I just went on a limb and didn't even create a bracket.

I just went on a limb and said, you know what? Hell, St. John's is fit to win the whole thing. And St. John's, they didn't win a loss. Got bounced in the second round. They didn't lost in the second round. So if I had a bracket, which I didn't, then the goddamn one team I did pick, now they going home. Yep. And because normally if your team, it's hard for you to win a bracket. If the team that you picked up

win the tournament gets knocked out early. Because think about all of them, because you had them winning, they got knocked out the round of 32. So now they don't make the sweet 16. They don't make the elite eight. They don't make the final four. So one side of your bracket is already gone.

Unless you're perfect on the other side, it's hard for you to overcome that. But this is why people love Marcia Maddison so much, is the uncertainty, the unpredictability of college basketball. Because you're not dealing with professionals here, Ocho. You're dealing with kids. You're dealing with 18 to 20, 21-year-old kids.

Maybe some are a little older now because of the portal and what we had with COVID. So sometimes the kids are 22, 23 years of age, but you're still dealing, you're not dealing with professionals. Although some of them are getting paid. So I guess you would consider, theoretically consider them professionals.

But when you look at it like that, Ocho, I'm not surprised. I'm surprised they haven't been more upset. Cause normally we get more, yeah, yeah. Normally, I don't think we had, we didn't have any like what, 13, 14 seeds that upset anybody this year. Normally we have a 13 or 14 seed, a 15 seed that would upset somebody. It's just hard now, Ocho, because the freshmen, if they're really good, you leave.

And the portal guys going back to going one school here and didn't like the amount of playing time or they got into it with coaches or whatever the case may be. And so now guys, the talent is spread. Guys are not just going to Carolina, Duke and Kentucky and Kansas. Guys are spreading out, UConn,

even though they lost a day to Florida. But that's what happened. That's what happened. You gonna see this, start to see this, I think a little bit more in football also, Ocho, the unpredictability of college football because the guys are starting to spread out because you know what?

There are a lot of teams that got money. Now they might not have as much as Ohio State or say Michigan or Alabama or Georgia, but hey, considering I was gonna get nothing that I can get 200, 300,000, that's pretty good money for an 18-year-old that's entering college. I nothing that I can get 200, 300,000, that's pretty good money for an 18-year-old that's entering college. I know when I think about it, you talk about the landscape and how the dynamic of the playing

field has somewhat evened because players are going everywhere. I think when it comes to college football, I think that's already happened. I think it's already happened. That's how you think of the days when the hurricanes, the Florida Gators and the Seminoles used to absolutely dominate collegiate football and get all the great players, especially from down here in Florida, as opposed to now. Listen, the kids out of Florida and Texas and in LA, they're going everywhere.

They're going to Ohio State, they're going to Alabama. Look at Amari Cooper. Look at Jerry Judy. Look at Jeremiah Smith. He's at Ohio State. Look at Lamar Jackson. He's from Florida. He went to Ohio State. Yeah, look at Lamar Jackson. He's from Florida. He went to Louisville

So we're guys the guys from Florida would normally stay home. They like we go Yeah, we go and so, you know if Florida could actually keep their guys. That's why Florida Florida State Miami the canes that's why they were so good cuz they normally kept that that homegrown talent. Now that homegrown talent, they leave. Yeah. And so Ridley, isn't Caberilli component? Yeah, Caberilli, yeah. He and his brother, they went out of state. And so you're right, Ochoa, I think because the guys are starting to leave

and starting to spread out, you're gonna see, you're gonna, the likelihood of you see the domination that you once saw, nah, I don't know if we're gonna see, you got the likelihood of you see the domination that you want song. Nah. I don't know if we're gonna see that again. Nah, it's not gonna happen. Listen, unless there's some booster from somewhere that comes along with an abnormal amount of money and it's starting, and it's starting, let's say you and for example, or Florida State, in order for them to get back to their dominating ways, they have to come into these homes and offer some of these five-star kids or steal players

from other schools. Yeah, yeah, that's what you're going to need to do, Ocho. Yeah, based on the amount of money they're willing to pay them in order for the hurricanes or the Seminoles to get back to how it was back in the 90s. You got to keep all homegrown kids right here within the state. When you look at it Ocho and like you said okay you got to get a kid that was like you like Jordan Addison. He won the Balintnikov Award at Pitt and now he ends up at USC. USC yeah. Because you got those big movie studio execs and all

those guys that went to USC. That's a big film school. Yeah Which one of those is it Katzenberg a David Geffen that went to USC Is one of them cuz SKG is Spielberg cats and Geffen Spielberg Katzenberg and Geffen, SKG. But I know one of them got a film school named after him at USC. Okay.

Because they started Pixar, didn't they? But that's what you're going to have to have, Ocho. You're going to have to have, like you said, those big guys to have that kind of money. You see Larry Ellison, his wife went to Michigan. He intervened and got Rice Underwood to flip from LSU to Michigan. DreamWorks, SKG, Spielberg, Kassenberg and Geffen, right? Which one with the USC? Because one of them has a Spelman school named after him. I think it's David Geffen. But it might be Kassenberg. DreamWorks, yeah.

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["Divine Intervention"] Cooper flag sports 18 points in his second round win over Baylor. The Blue Devils finished the first half on a 12-0 run and the win didn't slow down after the half asserting their dominance in an 89-66 win. Cooper flag was once again the best player on the court, finished with 18 points, nine rebounds, six assists, and a block. While Tyrese Proctor added 25 points and shot seven of eight from the three. Duke have been dominant and it's shown that they still can win it all.

You're absolutely right, Ocho. They look like the most impressive team that I've seen in the tournament. Hey, from top to bottom, from top to bottom in every phase on the court, in transition, on offense, on defense, everything about Duke looks phenomenal. I'm not sure, I think they might be the anomaly.

I might be using anomaly in the wrong context. In the instance where I'm talking about Duke might be in one of the teams where regardless of what day it is, they probably will beat everybody. I'm not sure who can compete with them or contend with them You would probably be better versed and well-knowledged in the game of collegiate basketball to tell me Is there a team that can actually challenge do George Lucas? So what I've seen so far and based on what I've seen during the regular season, right?

Hold on for a second. Would you say all of them with the USC all of them have schools named after Hold on for a second. What'd you say all of them went to USC? All of them have schools named after them? Yeah, that's all. We're not surprised. So that's how USC is able to get Jordan Addison after he won the Blitner Cup award at Pitt and get him to come to USC. But Cooper Flagg, he looked good. I mean, you watched him at high school at Mount Verde, Mount Verde, and he was sensational. And he hadn't disappointed. He looks like he's going to be the presumptuous number one overall pick in this upcoming draft. Oh, so he's not coming back? Not that he's coming back. You want to go to the NBA. How can you get higher than number one?

I can see if he's going to be like in the lottery pick, he's going to be number one. To do, come back to do what? Hey, it's so funny watching him play today and watching Cooper Flag, he just remind me so much of myself when I was in high school. Our game is very similar, very similar. He can score, he can score from anywhere.

Mid-range, you know, put the ball on the floor, take people on, in the post, back to the basket. I mean, he just shoot the three a little bit. I mean, it's just very reminiscent of myself in high school back in 1991. It's a joy to watch, it's a joy to watch. Somebody say, Cooper Flags the best prospect says LeBron.

Did you not just see Wimby come out last year? So he's a better prospect than Wimby. You feel comfortable saying that? No. Hey, listen, one thing about us in general, people in general society, we are prisoners of the moment. Absolutely. Whatever is hot right now, that's what it is.

And you forget about some of the great players that have come in the past. Hey, nigga, my dog, Tidey, what's up, baby? Boy, you couldn't let me get no more moments, huh? You been good? Tidey! He say, my auntie had me for 10 days and I was ready for her to leave, Ocho. She be stingy. She don't want to be sharing no chicken tenders.

She don't want to share nothing. So I was ready for her to go. You good? Inflategate, Ocho, players are complaining about overinflated basketballs. Here's a list of the players that have spoken out about the absurdity of the ball overinflation in the NCAA Tournament game. Aw, come on, man. You know, you had Sam Decker, Kobe Bray, Colman Hawkins, Joseph Girard III, Dalton Connect

last year, Armando Baycott, Hunter Dixon. What do you think, Ocho? Is this something or nothing? Man, I mean, to me, honey, Hunter Dixon. What do you think Ocho? Is it something or nothing? And I mean to me, it's nothing. I wouldn't be complaining about the ball. You know, when you were growing up, sometimes you had the word, but you had no control over the conditions, huh? You playing outdoor, you play indoor. Sometimes there's no net, sometimes there's net, sometimes there's chain net, sometimes there's a double rim. Yeah. Sometimes the ball is flat, sometimes the ball is full. Either way, you adapt, you make the adjustments necessary. Now you see what I mean? Now we got players

that got to college. Now they're complaining about the goddamn ball and forgetting how we grew up. Oh, I'm not sure how they grew up. Yeah, everybody had a silver spoon based on this area that's in college right now. Listen, I ain't even had no shoes. I had the hoop and P class and a pair of trucks. Everybody's hooping trucks. I know, but I'm just saying I'm still hooping the trucks and they talk about, oh, the ball is too much and the ball. Man, if you don't go out there and play basketball and adjust and adapt to the goddamn ball, what is you talking about? Man, man, hey, uh, boy, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey,

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there's something to this? What should the MCH, should they look into it? Should they check the ball? Hey honestly, honestly as a player, I'm just saying as a competitor, I wouldn't care about that. That's just me. Now I can't speak on behalf of the players if they're saying maybe the ball has too much air in it. I mean maybe it does. Should that affect your game in any way? No, when you shoot the ball, don't hit the rim. When you put the ball on the floor,

you know what to do with it. No air, a lot of air, it shouldn't matter. It shouldn't affect anything. That's just me. I ain't complaining about no damn ball. I'm going out there and I'm for the hoop. If you're a true hooper, now I'm talking about a true hooper. If you're a true hooper, you adapt regardless of circumstance. I ain't telling you what I heard. I'm telling you what I know. You think the player that go to rugby park, they complain about the ball being having too much air?

Well, I think sometimes these arenas are bigger of what they normally play and I think you know You heard an NBA player saying you got to get used because the depth reception because you know You used to play it and now they're playing a multi-purpose arena And so maybe maybe that has something to do with maybe the ball could be over inflated It's a little you know, go ahead. I have a question. Mm-hmm Don't they have shoot around in college football and college basketball too, right? Yeah. There's plenty of time to make the necessary adjustments to your game, to your skill set,

based on the balls that you were using. Me personally, I'm just saying, they have a right to complain. It's just something I wouldn't complain about. Before we have a football game, what does the coach tell you to go do? Two hours before the game. Go out there and test the what? Test your shoes. So you know what shoes you need to wear because you might have to make the necessary adjustments

based on the field you're playing on. Yep. Come on now, we're talking about the ball having too much air, man. We ain't even had no air in our balls in P.E. back in the 80s. And we, I may do just like that. Talk about the ball got too much air in it. Man, child, please, man. Come on now. The Liberty Flames got blown out in their first round of the 2025 NCAA tournament by the Oregon Ducks. Unfortunately, Liberty head coach Richie McCade, that might not have been the worst part of the night. McCabe was interviewed on the sideline by one of the reporters on the broadcast.

Ocho, take a look at this photo. Yeah. Bro, does he not know that we know that that's prey? Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, young boy live his life, man. That's a good Beijing. You hear me? But Ocho, but if you notice, you can't do it. You got, first of all, he got, you gotta, you gotta cut it down some,

because you can't have that much here and then have that, cause he got that thing looking like Carlos Buzza. Hey, Chad, y'all remember Carlos Buzza when that thing slicked out? Had a nice little beer. Hey, maybe, maybe he didn't realize it, and maybe cause the light, you see the light shining on his forehead,

maybe it's the light from the camera that's making it look worse than what it really is. So if the light was on it- I'm glad it got blown out. Because can you imagine had it not got blown out and it's a close game, and he's starting to sweat? Ooh. Bad day.

You see some of those Baptist ministers, them Baptist ministers be up there in that pool poop and they got that yeah, baby Yeah, start dripping down. Yeah. Hey, don't do him like that Chad know what I'm talking about. They don't make he wrong for that. Oh Joe You can't go out there like like we we now, you know what? I'll come apart matter you say nothing, But I guarantee every black person that watch that has something to say. Always. You know, we ain't gonna let none slide. Especially nothing like that. Listen, on national television?

Oh, no. He got that good Beijing. Yeah. Oh, and you see him in church, you ain't gonna say nothing to church. But soon you get off church ground, You see that dog here just now? I don't know what he thought that was. Oh no. You can't, not now, you paid. Oh Joe, you see that? When you start getting them cow licks and everything, you might as well go ahead and cut it out.

It's just the battle time. Just let it go? Yeah, you got them T-tops. That's them T-tops. You know, back in the day, you didn't have the, that's the convertible, you had the T-tops. Right. And like the Camaro, the Camaro. Yeah, there you go. That's them T-Tops. You know back in the day you didn't have the convertible, you had the T-Tops. Right. And like the Camaro. The Camaro. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You go, that's exactly right. Camaro and the Fiverr. Nah, man.

And he just, oh Joe, why he just put it, he should just put it all over. You can't just, it's two-tone. He got his regular hair and then this thing, he's jet black. Well, listen, maybe maybe this not a minute. Maybe what if it did start off that way? Maybe how about it maybe it got like that at the beginning of the game. It wasn't like that stress

Sweating and that's how that was the outcome of it No, if it had been if he if that game had been close He started sweating that they'd have been all down it for it in the forehead. Hey, you remember how Rudy, hey, y'all remember Rudy Giuliani? You remember how he started sweating because he had that wrist in there? And he started sweating, that thing was all over his face. That's exactly what would have happened to him

because that's that spray, that ain't that baby, I got that cover, I ain't got that wrist, because he ain't gonna sweat. But he got that spray, that spray, you get hot and start sweating, that don't start coming down your face Wait, hold on. Now. You just said something. I mean you said something. Yeah, I'm waiting for let that go back You say you you got the Beijing to show do thrill, yep

Okay. Okay. I like that First of all, there are a lot of people got it you ain't't about to be 50. First of all, I'm not Pakistani. I'm not Indian descent. So my hair ain't gonna be jet black, ain't no 50. Right. And I ain't the only one. There are a lot of more phones. There's a lot of more phones on television.

Y'all must be thinking, come on now. Hold on, hold on. This what you need to do. Now this might be one of the reasons why you ain't been able to find you somebody, somebody you actually want. Now if you're in your 50 reasons why you ain't been able to find somebody, somebody you actually want. Now if you're in your 50s, women love a little salt and pepper.

So you might, you can stop. Let it stop going to black. But the damn shade gonna be in my head. You better put it on your plate, your food. Cause every chance I get, I'm going to joke, hey color this thing up, joke color it up. Hey, you don't want to just, you don't want to let the, think about how you look though, with the all gray. Nah, I don't have the all gray.

No? Mm-mm. Okay, okay. I'm just throwing somebody just to give them a different look, give the women a different perspective of you, that's all. Hey, the chat have seen me. I ain't trying to fool nobody. I mean, y'all seen me a couple of times where I can't get back home or get it colored.

Hey, I got that gray coming in. I mean, I don't know what it is. Right. These damn edges. Hey, Unc, I'm telling you, you should try it one time. Hey, somebody use AI or something and then change Unc hair color to gray. Yeah, I just want AI or something and then change on hair I just want to see how it look you might like it

You know that that just let them know that you seasoned I am hey look I'll fit yourself mocho. Yeah But I don't know that you can't do that though I mean like I said a if he'd have had it all one color If he had all that we we still know we probably wouldn't noticed it as much right, right Well, like a lot of times they do that spray they have the edge edges crispy So when they do they use that spray to get them edges crispy, right? So it's a little darker than the rest of the head of the hair, but that's too much You got that thing looking like shoe polish But that's too much. You got that thing looking like shoe polish.

Hey, I don't know if you ever shine shoes, Ocho. But my grandpa used to have me and my brother shine his shoes and we had to shine our own shoes. So yeah, I don't know if y'all noticed about that shoe polish, but hey. Oh man, that's funny. That's funny, that is funny. Ocho, the three the three Pete is complete. Arguably the greatest hurdler in history. Grant Holloway is the first athlete in world indoor championship history to win three consecutive 60-meter hurdle titles. Me personally, because Roger Kingdom from Georgia with the Vianna High School, he was a tremendous athlete. He won the Olympics, I think he won 84 and 88.

Allen Johnson won the Olympics. I think if Grant Holloway can win another Olympics, I think he'll go down as the greatest hurdler because he has three world championship outdoors. He has three indoor. He has an Olympic gold medalist. If he can snag one more. And then, but I'm not so sure because he's in a uh, this is a

world Championship season here. I think now he's dead set on that that world record He's won. He's he's run 1281. Yeah, which is point zero zero one off of uh, Aries Merritt Georgia boy who has the world record at 1280 So I think if he can get that world record and get another goal, I don't think it'll be I think it'd be unquestioned He's the greatest hurdler ever. We have to you know to have that world record Colin Jack Allen Johnson at it Colin Jackson at it

The China the Chinese guy a Xuan, he had it. Dyrann Robles from Cuba, he had it. Ares Merritt took it from him. So it's gonna be interesting if Grant Holloway, because his explosive start, he gives out, you're not beating him out the gate. You're not beating him out the gate. And he's falling.

So. Yeah, his time, his time, I mean listen, I've been watching Grant, the Flamingo, I've been watching Grant the Flamingo, that's his nickname. Yeah, that's what he called it. Flamingo, Holloway for a very long time. One of the greatest hurlers of all time. And I'm sure he's probably going to achieve

being the greatest hurler of all time and being able to get that 12, beat that 1280 at some point. So I'm happy for him. Grant, I know you're gonna see this. I salute you. Know all your hard work You know we go at it back and forth on Twitter sometimes and in person, and I'm proud of you, man. I'm proud of you. Yeah Coach prime and Asante Samuels got into some beat this weekend. Oh Joe. I love this

First Asante responded to the NFL Networks video of Coach Prang hating on the T-step I can't stop laughing how foolish she sounds. You can't control everything, sir. the Hey, listen, can I go? Can I go? Yeah, go ahead. You know how I'm a fan and an enthusiast when it comes to beautiful DV play. The T-step and being able to gather step and get out your break, there are different skill sets for different players.

What makes them comfortable, depending on what you like to do. Deion Sanders, his ability to get in and out of breaks, is phenomenal. Yes. It's phenomenal. His anticipatory skills are phenomenal. Understanding the tendencies and what routes are coming based on downing, distance, alignment, whatever it may be, are phenomenal. Yes, understanding the tendencies and what routes are coming based on down and this is alignment

Whatever it may be is phenomenal Another great one and a Sanchez Samuels, whether it be man whether it be zone Bump and run man-to-man his anticipatory skills Again based on down and distance. It's good He's the greatest T stepstepper of all time. And he has the numbers and the stats to prove it. Now you have two of the greats. You have two of the all-time greats that are going back and forth based on a specific skill

set and technique. One might not like it, but the other likes it. So the way Deion used to get out of breaks, it worked for him and it works for other players. Right. Everybody can't do the goddamn T-step like Asante Samuels, huh? Right. Everybody can't do it. Other players or other players that played even the back, you have to gather. You have to. It's like there's some receiver that can get out of break in three steps, then there's something they got to get out in five. There's a difference.

A sudden save is one of the few that can T-step. And I think one of the things that might be bad about the T-step, if you T-step and it's a double move, well, you're assed out. You're assed out because you're not even gathering, you're just taking that one step and getting about it and you're just taking that one step and getting about it and you're just driving. Right.

So if you fake and make a double move, I mean, it's going to take you forever to get back out of there. I think the thing- But listen, that's a hard argument, man, from two of the best that ever played a game, but it's a good one. I like to hear your expertise on that. I think the thing is time is looking at there's no waste of motion. What do we talk when we run rounds? What do we say it? No waste of motion.

When we get into that break, we want our arms here or we want our arms here. You want your body, you want your over your toe. You know what I'm saying? You want that weight, distributed over your big old quads. So you can come up out of there. No just brr brr brr brr brr. None of that. So in other words, time is saying by 10 stepping, that's wasting motion.

And what we're taught, my coach told me, he said, son, he who hesitates, be. So time is coming in there, brr, coming. I'm coming right now, yes sir, yes sir. He said, when you open, that guy's already at the break, because think about it, you gotta do this. Now you gotta square back up and go. Okay. And go.

That worked for Asante. I think the thing is that this is what I'm gonna try to teach. Now, if I see I'm trying to teach this and the guy can't get it and he's better at T-stepping, I'm gonna let him T-step. But, and it's a funny thing. This is funny thing about Asante's sandwich. Now, this is this is when it comes down to technique

This is what Sont was so goddamn good at. Asante played inside leverage, right? Uh-huh. He'll play off on purpose and no matter how you weave him The thing why he can T-step so well and still be in position to make the play because that mother... Oh, I'm most cursed I'm sorry. I'm so excited. Hey, Assant, you can come at him, and if you weave inside, he gonna weave, but he gonna stay square the whole time. He not opening up, he not opening up,

he gonna stay square, stay right in front of you the whole time, if you weave outside, he gonna weave right with you. And so when it's time for the get out of this break, if you make any kind of move in front of him without stepping on his toes, the ball is going the other way. Yeah. I've seen it. He's the guy, you gotta double move.

I'm double moving him. I'm not, cause he gonna see it. Yeah. He gonna squat, he squats a lot. Yes. Like you said, he has great anticipation, but you gotta double move him. And a lot of things because he came up in the Coach Belichick system is that what he did is like,

no matter what you do, if I got inside leverage, I got inside leverage. If I got outside leverage, I got outside leverage. So what you do don't impact me because I gotta be outside leverage. So if you're doing all that stuff, I got outside leverage, I got outside leverage. You run the bank I can't stop it. If I got inside leverage, I don't care if you give me a nod outside. I'm standing side. That ain't gonna do me

Yeah, it's just it's just a matter of your technique Is that what we try to do we try to keep our technique as sound as we possibly can Right do to eliminate wasted motion. Motion. Right. And so prime comment, it kind of says, sir, foolish. LOL. God bless you, my brother. Tell them what this is really about, sir. You've forever taken a shot at the sky.

Mickey Andrews is responsible for teaching us what I teach. And it sure seemed like it worked for us. Peace be still. Yeah. This set up a bunch of tweets from a And it sure seemed like it worked for us. Peace be still. Yeah. Hold on, Jo. Let me... This set up a bunch of tweets from Asante. Ain't no shot to only airbrothers, competitive as they come. I talk ish. If it offended you, Coach Gene Chizik taught us how to T-step.

I'm just trying to compare film. You can't run from the debate. I will still be here talking ish. LOL, God bless you. Here's a yearly reminder, not let us, excuse, pick sixes. 168 games, 53, Dion played 188 games, 53 interceptions, three playoff interceptions, two Super Bowls. Asante, 51 interceptions, seven playoff career interceptions, two Super Bowls, 50 plus interception, 94 pass, please start saying they don't throw his weight.

Asante, I love you bro. I love you. I think you're phenomenal, but you're not in times realm. That's not even close. You're not. Nobody, nobody will ever say Asante Samuel and Deion Sanders in the same breath. You are fabulous. That's the greatest corner to ever put on pads and a helmet. The cover, the lockdown, where you think this term came from? What you think that term,

Ocho, do you realize where that term came from? Yeah. The cover corner, the shut down corner, the cover one side of the field. When he took the, listen, see sometimes people like, when I say time locked it down, there was no safety in the hole. So if you ran the post, go back and look when he picked it on a rocket as well. He got it man to man. They threw a post with nobody in the hole.

Time ran, jumped over the top of him and picked it. Yeah, I remember that. And put the ball up and came back this way with it. Osante, you were fabulous. Yeah. You're not time, man. You can put all these stats up. Bro, you're not time.

I get it. Your technique, you say the T-step work for you. Good. Ocho and I are trying to explain what we try to do is we try to eliminate wasted motion. Okay, you felt that the T-step would serve you better than to start the back, the back pedal, because everybody is up underneath them and come forward.

You felt the T-step gave you that bigger burst. No problem. Clearly it worked. You were a pro bowler, you won Super Bowls, you got 50 plus interceptions. Yes, sir. You just not time and it's okay. Yeah, I think I like, I love Prime

and what Prime was able to do in and The class and the bar that he said But I don't want it to to take away from how special Zon was He was There's levels oh, yeah, I know I know it's level I know his levels, but I need people to also understand as great as Prime was, I'm not saying Zont is on that level, but we need to give Zont his flowers so people understand how difficult it was

to put up the numbers he did. Yeah. And doing the T-step. This bad? And how good he was technically. That's all I'm saying. You tell me the cornerback that's played that shifted the balance of power. He go to San Francisco, they beat Dallas. He go to Dallas and Dallas beat San Francisco. He shifted

the balance of power. One man. Yeah, I understand what you mean. That's why I said the greatness that is prime. Yeah. Listen, he stands alone. We know that. You know, but one thing that we always do is we always go to the numbers. We always go to the stats. No, I don't look at stats.

I look at when it plays. I watch tape. Oh, okay, okay. Hey, but hey, but listen, now, if we talk about watching tape, now, you look at 22, hey, well, he does some special stuff out there now. Oh, hey, now his fluid, his ability to diagnose. Oh yeah, oh yeah, oh yeah.

Hey, to know what's coming before. Oh, man. Listen, Zant's ability to know what's coming before it comes and gambling at the right time and breaking on balls. But see, sometimes numbers fool you. Yes, sir. Darrell Reivers, how many picks he got? How many people you think taking Asante over Reivers?

You see how numbers are misleading, Ocho? Do you think Reivers got, I don't know, how many interceptions does Reivers have? Does Reivers have 30 interceptions? I'm not sure. Reivans got 29 picks. Now I want you to tell me, Ocho. You played against both of them.

I'd say I'd like to go to the man that played the man. Not the man that know the man that talk to the man about a man, you played against both of them. Tell me what you think. Listen, don't do me like that. Hey, don't do me like that. As a diva, I back myself. Listen, I'm trying to give praise.

It's Sunday. I'm trying to give praise and worship where it's due. Now see, it's a hard battle for Zon to win because we talking about prime and the comparison to win 99% in the world Won't allow the comparison to happen But what I'm gonna do is is I'm gonna get on my I'm gonna get on my soapbox Zant

Listen as a receiver. Yes, I understand how special and technically sound young bull was understand how special and technically sound young bull was Now I'm not trying to compare to prime prime isn't on a different level He's in a different stratosphere, but I don't want that to take away and I want no no no I don't want to take away how great Zong was and what he was able to do that goddamn T step and his abilities to always Stay square is why he was so good at it as opposed to other DBs That opened up right away, so they wouldn't be able to T-step anyway That there are very few DBs right on listen to this real quick chat listen to me Prime is a great one Revis was a great one

Pat certain that some of the young bulls in today's game that in some of the old some of the some of the DBs in the old era 95% of DBs 95% of them play the position not to get beat yeah and there's 5% that play to make a play another thing Ocho crime is in that yeah Zahn is in that and it's you know it's a few others I'm not gonna really, you know, it's a few others. I'm not going to riddle off no names, but there's a difference. Hey, this is Mel Reed, LPGA Tour winner and six-time Lady Geo-Bean Tour winner. And Kira K. Dixon, NBC Sports reporter and host. You forgot to say All My Miss America, by the way.

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Bam! Bam! Get in the game and then go in and get somebody. Slop it in the mug. Yeah warm it up. Yeah, right Hey Get in the game and they go to get somebody sloppy on the mug. Yeah Yeah Roll the 12 that's being out clean They do that over a Boy you see that dagger. Yeah as soon as somebody in somebody in front of them do what happened. What happened? Yeah It's funny. It's funny You in any time any time you put a body in front of somebody most of the time it's your technique goes it goes away

It goes away the ability to operate in the same fashion you do on air with the body in front of you Yes takes such extreme confidence in not just your belief in your skill set, but your technique as well. Look, like I said, that's not, I mean, look, just because you're not, it's like a receipt, it's like somebody said, well, he ain't Jerry Wright. Well, who is? That ain't no shot right it's like Okay, I when I had Ken Griffey on my podcast and he was he go see his son play and the guy He was like, hey, he ain't Ken Griffey. He ain't he ain't you

Griffey looked at him and said well who named five players that are Yeah, okay a Santa Samuel isn't crying. Okay who named five players that are? Ah, eh? Okay, Asante Samuel isn't prime. Okay, name five DBS that are. That's not a slight. Right. Asante Samuel was a damn good, he was a great quarter. Because you're not prime, that doesn't deduce you. Right.

That's like saying, well he wasn't, he, he wasn't Joe Montana. He ain't Tom Brady. Okay. Name five Tom Brady's at quarterback. What the hell are you saying? People get caught up with, he ain't this. Okay. Name five that work.

Name five Barry Bonds. Name five Jerry Rice that played the receiver position. Named five LT's. Named five Aaron Donalds. It's not a, it's not a, guys get so upset. So what you say, I'm saying you were great, but there are levels to this. There are. It just is.

You could be a great actor. Are there five better than Denzel? Mm-mm. You can be a great actor. Are there five better than Denzel? Mm-mm. So, I mean, I'm just, you know, people get called up. I don't get, I don't, hey, he ain't no Gronk, okay. There ain't but one Gronk. How many, how many times you can say they were Gronk? Right.

I mean, how many times you can say they were Travis Kelsey? Mm-hmm. People just get called up, get in their face. I don't care. I'm good. All I can say is this. From 90 to 2003, that's what I played. Yeah. Look at my numbers and look at the guys that played in that era. Look at their numbers and you tell me.

I can't do what came after me. I can't do what came before me. But look at my era when I played. Look at the tight end there from that era and you see what my numbers look like comparable to theirs. Hold on and I got some even better than that I got something better than that and I'm glad you said that I want you to look at the era before me you hear me? Hey chat y'all hear me? Chat listen to me real close. Stay with me now. Stay with me. Look at the area before me, all the receivers that played. Look at the area during my time, okay?

Now look at the area right now. And I ain't talk about no numbers. But it was only one Ocho, bro. You hear me? It's only one number, bro. You hear me? Ocho, people try to say now, well who did Tyron play against?

I tell you what, you take any error. You tell me three receivers better than Randy Moss, Carol Owens, and Jerry Rice. I'll give you any error. You tell me three receivers that you would take over those three, cause that's what Deon went against. So I want you to tell me, so if you want this error, you want Chase, Jetta, Reek?

If you want to go back to Little Father, you want Fitzgerald, you want Marvin Hanson, you want... You give... I'll give you any arrow. I'll take Teo, I'll take Randy Moss, and I'll take Jay Rice. And you tell me three receivers that's better than those three. Take off, Chad. Hey, listen, why the Chad try to do the impossible, I'm gonna grab me a bottle of water. Look, this is rare for time for him to get into a temperate on Twitter. Occasionally he will.

Occasionally if he feels like he's called upon, he'll chime in. But normally, normally he really doesn't. It's like I said, I just think the thing is a different of opinions. Asante did the T-step. It worked for him. Time didn't. He believed wasted motion, wasted, caused you to give up plays that you probably wouldn't give up.

Okay. Two things can be true. The T-step can work for Asante, where time didn't do the T-step. Okay? Hey, matter of fact, we can squash the conversation and we can change the topic. Whether you gather step, whether you T-step, whether you bump, whether you play off, whether you play zone, whether you play man. Asante, same as DR, you know who they couldn't couple?

Who? Me? Man, Ty, Ty, I already told you. Man, listen, man, listen, we could be in a phone booth. We could be in a phone booth. We could be in a brown paper bag. Matter of fact, the paper bag could be wet. The paper bag could be wet.

Prime couldn't see me, huh? He couldn't see me with Eric Dickinson goggles on. And on player of me. Prime go choke me. Hey listen, I love both of them boys, man. I love both of them boys. I love the healthy banter and competition back and forth. The competitive nature never goes anywhere even when you're done playing. I like it. It's a good healthy discussion, but y'all can't stop me.

Not then and not now. But what I could never understand was how could time play with that big wide base? Hey, right? And if you beat him, he was going to gonna recover. Yeah he wasn't worried about you running past it. He was gonna recover. I mean maybe one guy probably if he missed the jam on Tyreek but other than that he gonna be hey now if he don't miss the jam he gonna be right in your heel. You gotta think about it if he missed the jam on Tyreek that means the ball gotta be perfect. He gotta be cuz he gonna come to he coming ball gotta be perfect Be coming

They start a better thing Like that I like that topic I think they got camped up. They got all the practice, all the unconscious of you practicing. Man, I wish I'd have known. If I didn't know we were going to have this conversation, I'd have hit him up. Who that? Who that? Jaius.

Oh, oh, oh, oh. That was a good one. That was a great, that was a great combo. Oh, Joe, the Giants reportedly haven't given up on Aaron Rodgers despite signing Jameis Winston. Following Rodgers' visit to the Steelers on Friday, the G-Men reportedly haven't stopped their pursuit of the 41-year-old. Jeremy Fowler reports the Giants have not given up on Aaron Rodgers even though they

signed Jamus Winston. But reading the tea leaves here, it looks like the Steelers are in the pole position to potentially get it done. The Giants signed Winston to a two-year, $8 million dollar deal. Just hours after Rodgers meeting with the Steelers. Ocho, do you see the Steelers as a proper landing spot or is it the Giants? Um, oh that's a good one. That's a good one. Um, me, I can't really put myself in Aaron Rodgers shoes, but if you look at the landscape of the offense, on where I would prefer to be, Malik Nabors is nice. He's nice. That is one good one to throw to. But you got two good ones over there with

the Steelers. Correct. Me, personally, I would be choosing over there with Arthur Smith, George Pickens, and DK Metcalf. Let me get some of that. Let me get some of that. That's if I'm Aaron Rodgers. And understand what you can do with two dynamic receivers like that, just get the ball out

your hand, that's all. Just get the ball out your hand. I'm not sure who they have. I'm not sure who they have. And running back, this takes some of the pressure off Aaron so we ain't back there throwing the ball a hundred times a game but If I was a quarterback, I'm trying to go I'm trying to go over there with that with the crash I call him a crash our brothers

The Giants doesn't make a whole lot of sense because why would you sign Aaron Rodgers and Jamis Winston and potentially that means if you do that Oh Joe, that means you're not going to get a quarterback Right. Oh, yeah. Yeah, maybe they just talking maybe that's all smoke and mirrors Maybe maybe maybe it's all smoke and mirrors because what the Giants are going to do They're gonna need a quarterback for the future. Yes, but they signed Jamis Winston to a one-year They mean they said to two years also to one year You think you got you got to make up your mind. You got to make up your mind So where did that so so if if if Rogers goes to Pittsburgh or so where where does that leave Russell Wilson Cleveland?

That's a possibility that That is a possibility. That's the only place I see. Because Geno Smith is at the Raiders now. Sam Darnal is at Seattle. I'm trying to figure out where else could he go? Who else needs a quarterback? They just put Jones and Indy to challenge Richardson. So I'm looking at the landscape, I'm trying to figure out where can he go? Yeah, that's it, that's it. I really don't like what they did. I kind of like it and I don't like it

from a competitive standpoint. I don't like what they're doing to Richardson, but I also like it because now that you have somebody to push you and buying for your job, maybe that gets you to play at a higher level because now you have something to worry about. to push you and buying for your job, maybe that gets you to play at a higher level, because now you have something to worry about. But also sometimes it's pros and it's cons to that too, because now what happens if you press?

What happens if you try too hard? What happens if you try not to make mistakes instead of just playing freely? I think it'd do more harm than good when you, I don't think they like Anthony Richardson for the future. Oh Joe, they knew he was a reclamation project. He was not a high completion percentage guy in college. He wasn't a high, he came in, his completion percentage was lower than Thibault's and we know Thibault did not have a great completion percentage

I'm talking about in the NFL. I'm just I'm just just the facts right just the facts and the mere fact that they went out and got signed up Jones was his name. What's his first name Daniel Jones? Yeah, what does that tell you and they gave him 14 million? How they gonna pay the backup more than they pay the starter? Right. What are they telling you, Ocho? Yeah, you're right. They tied up your bulljive. Uh-huh.

14 million. You see what they gave? You see what they gave James Winston backup money? You see what they give other backup money? I have a question. And you gotta chat. Stop talking about cousins. Cousins was brought in to be a starter.

He happened to be the backup because he lost his job. Can you answer me something? Yeah. Why did he give Jameis Winston, Jameis Winston, what, one for eight or two for eight? What, was it one for eight or two for eight? Two for eight. Okay, so why'd he gave him 14?

Why do you think? They'd surmise he's gonna be the starter. No, or does it have anything to do with age? No Because here's the thing Ocho the guys like hold on if I'm coming in they right because they won't they want you to know They won't have to Richardson to know he's not coming to be your backup. Did you see me paid him? We paid him more than you. Now all this come late, leave early. All this bull, the stuff that you been doing, it ain't gonna go no more.

Well, I got a question. Go ahead. Hold on, hold on. I got a question for you. Who's the backup in Indy right now? Daniel Jones. Now, would the Daniel Jones show us the last two places he was at? He didn't show us nothing, man.

It's all because he didn't get in. But the Giants. My point exactly. So with the Giants, he had flashes. He had flashes of brilliance. I'm not even going to say he didn't lie. I'm not going to lie to you. But obviously, the Giants were in a position where it was either Barclay at a position

that they don't value or was there or with Daniel Jones? So they decided to pay and they decided to pay Daniel Jones, but the small symbol size and what we saw from him I mean, he ain't the goddamn answer He's not and that's no disrespect to him. He's not the answer But I think it's a good thing again, like I said, there's pros and cons to it. You bring in some competition. Most players, if you're competitive, oh man, this sucker ain't finna beat me out my job. No way. He ain't finna beat me out my job.

I welcome you. I welcome this challenge. You talking about you don't believe in me? I got you. Hold on. Man, I wish they would have thought about drafting, bringing somebody in, Ocho. You in your third, you about to be in your third Year and they bring it a quarterback in Ocho man, please

Yeah, that better be your teeth your 12 year 14. Oh now that's different You know, you know the third years you're making a brick of you, right? Yes Third year at any skill position is the year you have arrived where it's gonna let us know if you've arrived or not. Either you got it or you don't by that by that point so I'm assuming right now the Indianapolis coach feel you know what we don't feel Anthony Richardson has it just yet so we're gonna bring in someone else that maybe can take over but what we saw from the person they bringing to take over at one year for 14 million ain't the MF answer either. But here's the problem that you're running against. Anthony Richardson, they're like,

I got to make a decision. You see what quarterback's making after the third year? Okay, I see what you're saying. I need to know. Right. I can't see, I can't invest $300 million and I'm still, you can't still be a project with $300 million guaranteed with that kind of money. You can't, Ocho. So they gotta make a decision.

And if he's not, I gotta go back into the draft because I'm not gonna pay him 300 million. I'm not. You see what, you just saw what Joe with a Josh Allen guy. Well, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, come on. We can't do that now. We can't do that. Now, I understand what the quarterback market is, but Anthony Richardson, when it's his

time to get paid, he's not going to be one of the quarterbacks that reset the market like a Josh Allen or Joe Burrow or Lamar Jackson. Let's see what CJ Stroud get. Oh, now CJ Stroud is different. That's my point. Now you see my point. If he's the guy, I've got to pay this number. That's all I'm saying.

Okay. Now being the starter and having to pay for actual play is two totally different things. But still, even even if that you're gonna have to pay him an excess, is he gonna be worth, okay, Sam Darnold got three years, 105, are you gonna pay him 35 million a year, Ocho? And still be uncertain? Eh, see, that's the point. Hey, listen, hey, hey.

The quarterback, that mark, see, Ocho, you can't pay that guy five, six million dollars to be your starter. It's in the thirties. Yeah. Yeah. Hey, ooh, hey, he in a tough spot. I'm hoping this is his year. I'm hoping this is his year.

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