Club Shay Shay - Nightcap Hour 1: Ocho’s Bengals put BTA on the Ravens in Burrow’s RETURN + Dak SHINES in WIN over Chiefs

Episode Date: November 28, 2025

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson react to Joe Burrow and the Cincinnati Bengals going on the road and beating the Baltimore Ravens to keep their playoff hopes alive, the Dallas Cowboys beat the Kansas City Chiefs in a thriller and much more! 00:00 - Introduction3:16 - Bengals beat Ravens34:40 - Cowboys beat Chiefs (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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I'm your favorite unk. Joining us shortly is my partner and co-host. The one that's very, very happy today. He called this ball game. He said the Bengals was going to put BTA to the Ravens, and boy, did they ever. Four, five turnovers. Joe was not as sharp as he normally is, but they got the job done. sensational defense. This is the best defensive game that I think I've seen the

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thanks to a 3214 victory over the Baltimore Ravens. Baltimore dropped in 6 and 6. This was a game that the Bengals wasn't needed. they must have in order to keep their slim playoff hopes alive. They know the only way they're going to probably get into the playoffs is if they win the AFC North. And right now they're two games behind of the Steelers and the Baltimore Ravens, but they're very much in it because they still have the Steelers

and the Ravens on their schedule again. So if they continue to win and hope for some good luck, good things could possibly happen. But the Bengals tonight defensively, with as good a game that you've seen them play in the last, two years. Five takeaways. They pressure Lamar. Lamar was 17 to 32, 22, 246 yards, an interception, and they forced four fumbles. Five total turnovers. The Bengals defense was sensational. Chase was chased, 14 targets. They had seven catches for a buck 10, but I thought Tensley

stepped up. All those guys stepped up in the absence of T. Higgins. It was a very disappointing game for the Baltimore Ravens. They knew in order to have the chance to win this division. That is still an outside chance, but they did not play their best game. And we're going to dive into it. I'm trying to wait to Ocho can log on. But Lamar didn't play well tonight. And we're going to talk about, let's go and get this out of the way. In the game, the Buffalo Bills lost,

especially the 30-0 game they lost to the Falcons, I think, and I think they lost another game to the Houston Texans. Josh Allen didn't play well in those ball games. He turned the ball over, and that's not good enough for them to win. We've got that aside. So now when we address Lamar Jackson, we don't want to hear what about Josh Allen because we don't do that with any other quarterbacks.

When Tua plays bad, we don't say, well, what about C.J. Stride? What about Jordan Love? We don't do that. We only do that with Lamar Jackson. So we're not going to do that tonight. Lamar Jackson is a two-time league MVP. He's a multiple-time all-pro and a pro-bowl player, and he was once voted the best player in the NFL by his peers.

That can never be taken away But we're going to address Lamar Jackson Tonight and only tonight We're not going to talk about what he did Next week We're not going to talk about what he did In the previous game We're only going to dress tonight

And we're not talking about Josh Allen We're not talking about any other quarterback We're going to address Lamar Jackson Because I know chat what y'all try to do When you're not that hard, yes we are Yes, we are When Josh Allen played bad We kill Josh Allen

when that play bad we jump on that so what we're going to do tonight Lamar Jackson didn't play well and we're going to address it as such he close um but let's take the bingles at first we're waiting for uh Ocho to get logged on he was at the game tonight and uh kind of got caught up in some traffic and uh and so we're hopefully he can get to us in the next couple of minutes uh his camera is already set up in his room before he left so we're hoping Ocho can join us real, real soon. But Joe Burrow, 24-46, 261, two touchdowns, no interceptions, only got sacked once. They ran the ball okay tonight. I thought Chase Brown ran the ball extremely hard tonight, 15 carries for 78 yards. P. Ryan, minus that one fumble that P. Ryan had, they played really, really well. That was really the only hiccup in the game.

But that defense, the defense was, this was the best in the last. two years that we've seen this defense play and we know what they have offensively they got one of the better quarterbacks in the league they got the best wide receiver in the league offensive line is vastly improved they play well played well tonight they don't have the greatest running game but chase brown ran hard tonight he and p ryan combined they ran for over 100 yards but when you get your defense like this um Baltimore got the ball goes right down the field and scores a touchdown and after that that defense said no not tonight not tonight Lamar Jackson missed throws.

Yes, Isaiah likely, bro, you get the same amount of points whether you go in with the ball tucked up on the arm or you're getting ready to raise it. It looked like to me, Chad. Now, you can see, you saw it for yourself, that he was getting ready to put the ball in his right hand and raise it. When the guy chopped him and the ball went out of his hand and goes out of the back of end zone.

Yeah, we can say that's a silly rule. How does somebody, how do you get the, that's an ultimate punish? Because it's not like you recovered the ball, but that's the rule. And until they change it, there's nothing we can do about it. Lamar got pressure to give them an easy field goal, even though the defense bowed their backs and kept them out of the end zone. They got three points out of that.

Zay Flowers, bro, you got to hold onto the ball. I know you're frustrated. You're trying to make plays, but you've got to hold on to the football. Lamar wasn't sharp tonight. Chad, I'm not breaking news to any, y'all. We're not trying to beat up on Lamar Jackson, but you saw it. And it's okay to say, you know what, Lamar didn't play. Our best player did not play well tonight, and we didn't give us, give ourselves the best chance of winning.

Now, yeah, we got to give some credit to Cincinnati because that is the best defense that we've seen them play all year. But Lamar didn't play well, Chad. Baltimore Ravens fans, Lamar Jackson fans, it is okay to admit Lamar Jackson did not play well tonight. And we're not talking about him. He's a two-time league MVP. No matter how bad he plays tonight or in the future, can't undo that. All those pro bowls and all those perfect ratings that he's had, you can't undo that. But talking about what we saw tonight is not good enough in order for the Ravens to go

very far or even make the playoffs if Lamar plays like this. And I said before we talked about this the other night. I said, Ocho, they're winning games, but Lamar has been, he's not been accurate. He's missing some throws and he missed some throws tonight. But I don't, I think it would had more to do with Cincinnati and the way the Bengals did play as opposed to Ravens are the whole offensively and defensively, but Lamar did not help their calls. You good to go, Ocho? What's up? But you there?

Yeah, I'm here. I'm here. I've been waiting on you all night. What's up, baby? Huh? Wait, what they do? How are you feeling? I'll talk to me.

Are you sure? Hey, hey, do me in favor. Do me in favor. Go ahead and get that, go ahead and get that raven stuff. Go ahead and get that Raven stuff for me. Yeah, okay. We're here. We ain't going nowhere.

I did want to make sure you ain't going nowhere. Yeah, Raymond still flock. We still flock. Okay, yeah, y'all flocking. Y'all flocked out. That's what happened. Y'all flocked. You said it just right.

Flock. Listen, I told you, it's one thing I told you, right? There's a difference. There's a difference when one of the better quarterbacks in the league come back. He comes back to a team that has the best receiver in the league as well. So the supporting class played really well tonight. I'm going to give some players some credit tonight. Joseph aside, hell of a job.

Dieter Turner, hell of a job tonight. The offensive line in its entirety, hell of a job tonight. Hell of a job on the offensive line. The goddamn defense, being able to create the turnover. I think the Raven tonight had the most turnovers than they've had all goddamn season alone in one goddamn game. In one goddamn game. So obviously for one turnover, you pay double for that.

For two, three, four, and five, it ain't no way. You can't win games that way. You can't win games that way. I don't really want to talk about the Ravens, offensively or defensively. I'm not going to talk about Lamar. That's your job to do. I'm here to boast and brag about my goddamn thing.

I told you what was going to happen. You did? You did. I didn't you. I told you. I told you and butter, butter your ass, better be in the goddamn chat too, butter because you were talking on that trash about we got to play the cheats.

We got to play the fields. And we just happen to be on the schedule, so you just circle that as a win. Not what you got to say now. Now, listen, listen, let me say one thing to, one thing, this is my first time at MNT Bank Stadium in a very long time. And I know I come on here, I play a lot, I talk a lot of trash, but I've always been respectful. And them people, them people, the Ravens fans in that stadium, huh? Man, pure class, you hear me? pure class

I mean pure class I mean the welcoming being and obviously I'm not a raven at all but the welcoming and the graciousness that they showed a young bull like myself because of the love I've always showed

throughout the years I just want to I just want to say that man to the Ravens fans that I saw tonight those that I met tonight you know as I went throughout the stadium you know a field side and I salute you all and good luck the rest of the season

but y'all showed major love tonight Now, back to my shit talking. Now, we put belt the ass now. We put belt the ass. And I told you, I don't want to hear you say foot or ball. The rest of, you know what? You know what? They knock it on my hotel room talking too loud.

I don't care. They don't have to send a police at night because I'm feeling good. I'm not even tripping. Oh, my goodness. I felt good. Did you see Joe Burrow? I saw Joe look good. Hey, he was off a little bit, oh, Joe,

because I think the first half was the first time I think in his career that he was under 50% because he was 12 or 26. But he got he got going in the second half. He was just off just a tad. But look, that defense, that was how you guys won the game. Because you took a turn, you took a touchdown off the board from likely by stripping him. Now it looked like to me, Ocho, I don't know, maybe the chat saw something different. But it looked like he was about to go into, he wanted to raise the ball up as he was going into the end zone.

and they chopped his arm. And he fumbled it. I think he was losing control of it. I mean, if he was going to raise his arm, I think he might have been trying to raise it to get it away from the person that was on his inside that he could actually see. Yeah, he didn't see that person. Yeah.

So he just saw, he saw, he saw that person coming from this side. So he was getting ready to switch hands. Hands, yeah. But it was the person from the outside that coming inside out that chopped it. And the ball goes down. Lamar fumble, uh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, I think that's how you pronounce his name. Joseph Assai, yeah.

He did a great job of causing the pressure, got a sack, and the guy catches it right out the air. That Baltimore defense bowed their back. They didn't let them in the end zone. For the longest time, the Baltimore Ravens defense held and held and hell. Because I think the, I think, since it was like 0 for 3 in the red zone. And they turned them over on downs. But the Ravens' offense could not get on track.

Mainly that offense goes as Lamont. Lamar Jackson goes. Lamar didn't play well tonight, Ocho. Right. He didn't play well tonight, but also I want you to remember what you said about my defense. I want you to remember what you said about my defense.

They played good. We could stop nothing. We were last in the league and all this and all these categories, statistically, and how bad we are and how bad we've been in, you know, at the season. But all that matters,

it's a nice game. And I told you, every game, every game is week to week, it's any given Sunday. You never know what's going to happen, regardless to how bad a team may be, statistically, and whatever category they may be in.

And in games like this, then I was so confident. That's why I was so confident. And obviously, you know, I boast and I talk my trash, but it's one thing about the NFL that I understand and playing the game for a very long time. Even if you dominate in certain areas, there's always a game where for some reason,

even the team that's bad, they play well, the matchups, the personnel, I mean, whatever it may be. And the turnovers obviously helped a little bit outside. A little bit. Yeah, a little bit. Because if it wasn't no turnover, we still would have beat y'all. No, you wouldn't it?

The game would have been a lot closer. Let me ask you a question. How many games y'all won this year when y'all didn't create turnovers? Here you go. Here you go. You see, we don't want to talk about tonight. We talk about tonight. You got five turnovers.

How many teams? Let me ask you a question. We saw Detroit without high-powered offense turned the ball over against the commanders last year in the playoffs. And what happened? You know you're not winning no game you turned the ball over five times. Hey, young, let me tell you something. I hear everything you talk about, right? I don't want, we in 20, 25.

I don't want to hear about last year. I was about tonight's game. I want to talk about tonight's game with a Cincinnati bangles but built ass. You did? Yes, we did. But let's not, look, you guys did what you needed to do

to keep your slim playoff hopes alive. Slim. You created Turner. Hold on. Oh, so you still talking spicy. Hold on, you do know we, hold on. You do know we go to Buffalo next week, right? Yes.

And after we play Buffalo, you know who got to come right back to us to follow on week? Baltimore. Yes. Yeah. So if you mind your mouth and mind your tongue before you put them in the hole again and you all lose again. And then we'd be at the top of the guy. Well, I ain't even worried about that because I already know Buffalo going to put Bill there.

So I ain't cool. I ain't worried about that. You said the same thing about Baltimore. I ain't worried about that. You said the same thing about Baltimore. Yeah, Baltimore. I didn't expect you guys defensively to play this well. And I damn sure didn't expect Lamar to play this bad.

So it was a combination of one playing good and the other playing bad. Your defense played exemplary. Yeah, can I tell you something? Yes. This is a good thing for us, you know, as a fan of not just the Bengals, but as a fan of the game of football in general. You know what carries over week to week when you play well? It's called momentum.

It's called momentum. And defense. Y'all ain't got it. See, that momentum and that confidence is going to carry us right on over the Buffalo. It's going to carry us right on over the Buffalo. And then, hold on. We get T. Higgins back next week. Mitchell Tinsley played well.

Yoshi played well tonight. You know, goddamn. God damn Tanner caught him a touchdown. A little one hand touchdown. Hey, you can't play it any better than what Hamilton had him played. He made a great catch. Hey, that was beautiful defense. Yes.

But one thing about beautiful defense, the only thing that can spoil that is a perfect throw. Yes. A perfect throw. And, hey, that's what that was. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Who else?

Yoshi played well. Uno. Jamar Chase came back. He came back. I'm not sure how many catch he had. He had over 100. He had seven, 14 targets, seven for a buck 10. Oh, yeah.

Come on. Now, what are we talking about? We know with one game suspension. And then they got to deal with that boy down in Buffalo. And T. Higgins come back. And the defense playing with that kind of momentum going into next week. Man, we don't see Josh Allen. We don't see that.

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I'm excited for him. I'm excited for that match-up. So I can't wait to see that. I understand. We understand the greatness of Josh Allen and his support in the cast, you know, Shakira and them boys, man. But, hey, um, man, we don't, man, we don't even see it.

We don't even see it. You know, I know they just signed Brandon Cooks, too. we don't even see you either we need cooking we don't even see nothing Nick Daniel and I told I told Eric Ball you know Eric Ball right yeah I told Eric Ball I say listen Eric uh y'all get me a side line pass

the Buffalo please I don't care how cold it is I don't care how you see I was a good luck charmed for the night I was a good luck charm for the night because I've been talking trash about us all week and about what we was going to do to the Baltimore Ravens in a respectful way now in a respectful way as you can see I've been showing grace and respect while I've been talking trash no no cursing out

no no no no no being nah you've been saying how many times you don't say butted ass how many times you don't say I told you what we're going to do okay but I'm dude that's a respectful manner as opposed to the way other people know you're cursing early on I know I'm cursing to add emphasis the air emphasis it's like when you cook

Thanksgiving dinner you add season to your food that's what cursing does to me it's I call it a sentence enhancer that's all I mean no disrespect you know I do this is with all love and respect to all my Ravens fans Let me boast. Let me feel good about myself.

And Butter, don't you try to hide on Twitter either, butter? Huh? Hey, hey, you met Buddy and you met Buddy yet, huh? Uh-uh. Oh, yeah, you got to see his Twitter, man. It's lovely. I'm talking about all things Ravens.

Of course, he does other content related to football and basketball and stuff. He made really good dude, really good dude. So he's been talking trash, too, so that's why I keep calling his name. Butter, I'm going to see you in a minute. I hope you're in the goddamn chat. Anyone else that's the Raven fans?

I say this, the respect and love. We won the game tonight, and I'm going to see y'all in two weeks. We won the game tonight, and I'm going to see y'all in two weeks. I'm also confused by the Ravens game playing. You didn't like it? Derek Henry, no, Derek Henry breaks off the long run for the touchdown, and I don't really see him until late third,

the beginning of the third quarter, because I see Mitchell and I see everybody else running the football except Derek Henry. Maybe I missed it. I mean, we were good, we were doing a good job and containing Derek Henry most of the night outside, excuse me, outside of that long run, though. I mean, but he had 10 carries for 60 yards.

He's average of six yards of carry. Yeah. So even if you take, even if you take, so he had 32 yards or nine carries, I think, yeah. But you know how he is. He's a guy that the more catches you give him, the harder he runs. I'm also confused.

They, they, the Bengals come with a zero blitz. and you call you got an end breaking right call you take the top off it you had to know it's going to be zero blitz because you max protected it why else would you check to a max protection if you're not thinking of zero a bomb blitz

and then they run Zay flowers on a on a dagger route why would you run them on a dagger route and there's nobody in the middle of the field you know it's funny too long that that's universal for every team because when there was zero bliss for us and we

their safety in that backer was coming? Yeah. I had to slant. Now it's up to the quarterback to say listen, I'm going to hold the goddamn ball one more tick. I'm going to get my ass killed, but chains the route up and just go. Yes. I got the whole field to work with.

Oh, absolutely, because there's nothing back there. Right. I mean, the goddamn DBs and no man's land. But that's something that off of the court it has to agree with because that can you hold that ball too long, you get Lamar killed. But here's the thing to Ocho, you already in gun. You can retreat.

It's not like it used to be back in a day when you're on the center and you're checking and you had the back. You already away from the center. So you already got distance between you and the nearest rusher. Right. Now when you retreat, you can just keep retreating and put it up because you're not worried about no, the safety or anybody from back side coming in the plane. You can run them on a goal. You can run him on a pole, cross his face, whatever. Anytime we saw zero blitz and they checked the coverage.

Hey, several would always say, take the top off. Take the top off. Okay. And I'm like, and I'm looking like, bro, what are y'all doing? Why would you run a dagger route? Why would you run a route? Again, zero coverage for a 15, 20-yard completion when you can have a 40-yard touchdown. It just made no sense to me.

Yeah, you were right. But the whole game plan tonight, and maybe they had more to do with Cincinnati and how they got after Lamar and how they did a, uh, uh, after that long, run, you're right, Ocho. They didn't, Mitchell had an 18-yard run. Lamar had an 11-yard scramble, but it was just the turnover. You're not overcoming that because we already know the Ravens' defense is not fortified like it used to be.

And they did a great job for the most part, Ocho, because they kept them out of the end zone, but you can only do that for so long before you know what, the levy burst and the now here comes back. It was a wrap. And the funny thing, too long, you got to remember, and those that in his chat that are listen, you have to remember when it comes to these division games, you know each other very well. You understand the tendencies and what you like to do on based on down and distance and you know, formation recognition, even though you try to change things up to make it look

different. But the bulk of what your offense is what your offense is, regardless of what you line up in. Your chances of doing the same thing over and over repeatedly based on what you know and what you like to do, it always stayed the same. The only thing that changes is the formations and where the ball is, whether it's in the middle of the field or the left half to the right half. But what you'd like to do will always be your offense, which is why I think, hypothetically speaking, if there weren't five turnovers,

this game would have been extremely close. It would have come down to the team of the quarterback that makes the few of the mistakes. That's normally how it comes down when you've got evenly matched teams. Yes. Because it's not like the Ravens defense or world beaters this year, Ocho,

like they have in years past. Last year they were okay. but they weren't great. This year, they've really fallen off. I'm looking at, I'm looking at Marlon Humphrey and their coverage at their times. He's getting beat by tight-in. He's getting beat by Gaseki.

Yeah, he's not even close. They're running, they're running like five and he's underneath and he's not even close to chase. And he got help over the top. I mean, guys are like, I'm like, what is what? I think, I know when you talk about when they were Dublin, they were running 55. Yes, yes.

Try to inside it out. Yes. Yeah, yeah, they tried to inside it out. They're not even, Underneath guys not even close. Yeah, that's what the weak spot is. The weak spot is exactly the, I call it hard seven. Yes.

Because the goddamn safety has to stay over top and the corner has underneath. So what do you do? You split the gap and run the deep out. But hold on, Ocho. Where are you going? You ain't worried about him beating you deep. So all I got to do, I'm playing up underneath.

I'm in your hip pocket. Right. You jump inside. Yeah. So now I'm just in a trail position. Whatever you do, I'm there. He wasn't even, they weren't even close. Because he was, he was banking on him running that goddamn dig.

Maybe you're right. Maybe you're right. I was just like, bro, they just like, that defense, they left a lot to be, they left a lot to be desired tonight even more so than normal. But when your offense, when your offense turns the ball over five times, five times, it makes the defense look even worse than what they play. Because I don't think they played bad tonight

given the position that the offense put them in. The offense put them in some terrible positions. Really, really bad positions. And they held them to field goals for the lot of what they have. They made them kick four field goals in the first half, Joe. Yeah, yeah.

And then they gave up 14 in the third quarter. Yeah. And that had me nervous. That had me nervous the fact that we were able to drive the ball. So I'm like, But God damn, Joe, Joe, Joe, you're cooking. And I talked to Joe, I think it might have been early, early in the fourth quarter.

You know, they had switched sides. And I was right on the meter. I say, Joe, what? But do you realize what you're doing right now? You see, I feel like I'm cooking. He said, no, no, I'm not playing like I should. Oh, but God damn, Joe. Well, you're off that long.

I mean, he looked good on some throws. But you got to realize he's been off for 10 weeks, 11 weeks. And to come back, it'll take him some time, probably. by the third game. Yeah, yeah. I mean, he'll get his time and his spotty senses to start tingling. He did a great job of moving

by creating time and finding guys. I thought the guys, I thought the guy offensively they played really well. I think, you know, later in the ball game, Ocho, I thought they got really conservative. He's like, you know what, a field goal, a field goal is good here. We don't need to take any unnecessary risk.

I don't understand that, but why does every team do that? Oh, listen, let's make a statement. Let's make a statement. I mean, listen, I talked to Zach Taylor going into the tunnel after the game. I'm like, Zach, great game. I love it. I'm a see you in Buffalo. But I'm thinking to myself on the sideline, it's five minutes to go.

We have a chance to score. We're inside the 20. We're in the red zone. Let's be aggressive. And you run the ball. You run the ball. Yep. Hold on.

And then we run the ball purposely in the A and the B gap knowing you ain't going to go nowhere. You know, you're not going to go nowhere. Like, what's the point? You're right. You're right. I saw that. And I think he's thinking like, you know what, as long as we don't get a give a turnover or get a scoop and score a pick six, they can't move to go. Against the way our defense is playing tonight, you know, he got pressure.

They were, they pressured the hell out of Lamar Jackson more than normally. He had on the interception that night got. He had Mark Andrews coming wide ass open. Yes. Likely caught the DB, the D-Liman pushed him back, got his hand up and got tip and, you know, that end of the drive right there. But I think, but, you know, Lamar didn't play well. We can attest it. We can say that.

But I think it might have had more to do with Sense's defense than he eating too much or him still, him still not recover from that hamstring. And another thing, another thing. I know some, I know some of my homeboys down in Cincinnati watching. I know we have a lot of Cincinnati fans in the chat as well. I want, I want you all to congratulate and be, and be boisterous, the same way you guys want Zach Taylor fired. And you complain about Al Golden, this. is the game. I want y'all to praise them just as loud as the disrespect was when

things weren't going well. So I need to clap for Zach Taylor and I need to clap by Al Golden and his defensive play calling tonight and what Zach was able to do with us offensively because we put B to A. You did. Y'all did. I mean, you know, hey, there's nothing, you know,

I'm sure they're rejoicing in Cincinnati. They don't have to eat killing like they can eat turkey and dressing. Hey, can you do them in favor? Can you apologize for the disrespect? Absolutely not. Y'all still four and eight. So you're not going to apologize? No.

What's the Broncos record? Who? Oh, no. We don't do that. I got two teams. I got two teams. You know I got two teams. I've been to have two teams.

Oh, hold on. Your team don't play until Sunday. Okay. We still not and two. So, hey, you need the focus. You got the focus now. And what do we do, y'all? Did we put belt, did we put belt to y'all?

Hold on, young fellow. Hold on young fella. Let's focus. Your team. And don't forget, we had Jake Brown in playing, right? If I'm not mistaken, we play, y'all. Y'all had Jake from State Farm. We still go put bait-de-baths.

If we had, if Joe Burrow was playing, you guys would have lost that game. Let's stop that. But you know, hey, that defense are relentless. That's a defense. We come get you. I mean, you be in a defense that's unrealistic. We still have a top three quarterback in the NFL when you're playing against us. That makes it even better when we put him on the ground like six or seven times.

He wasn't available. He wasn't available. Good thing. But you know, don't worry about it. We'll see y'all in two weeks. And the fact that you don't want to apologize, I'm going to say some of my grandmikes to say in church all the time. Every tongue that rise, then talk, you know what?

I ain't going to say the whole thing. I ain't going to say the whole thing. I ain't going to say the whole thing. Hey, chat, I'm glad y'all here. I appreciate y'all for showing up. I'm sure all you are probably rooting for the Bengals right now. And I love y'all, and thank you for the support. I appreciate you.

On the third care of the night, Derek Henry passed NFL legend. Jim Brown on the all-time career rushing list, Ocho. So congratulations. I think he's number 11 right now, right? He's almost in the top 10. All time? Yeah.

How many more years you think he can play? Well, he ain't catching Emmett. So he ain't going to play that many more years. They would have to be a buddy-buddy system for anybody to catch Emmett Smith or catch a Frank Gore. Who's number two? Frank Gore. wait i thought i thought frank was three who was two it frank gore 16 000 oh yeah walter got 16 000

800 okay yeah walter patent then frank gore god damn walter pain got 16 000 yeah jesus christ frank gore got 16000 and then it's barry fourth or fifth who got somebody else did anybody pass back yeah so he got an outside chance of catching Tony D because I think Tony Dorset got like 12,700 so he's a have an outside chance of catching him this year, right? Yeah, he's only, I don't think people understand to be able to get to 16,000 yards, how long you have to play

and how much wear and tear that is. Oh, yeah. A running back body? And when you consider all the carries that he had high school, all the cares that he had in college, and all the carries that he's had now in the NFL, that's a lot. Nobody, not even Emmett, with all the yards he has had as many carries as Derek Henry. So for Henry to be playing as well as he's playing with damn near 5,000 carers in high school, another 2,500 in college, and now he probably got another 2,000, 2,500 in the NFL. And you know what, for the most part of his career to him?

He's been healthy. Yeah. Except for that one year. That one year, yeah, that one time. Yeah. He's been healthy. Oh, that's dope, man. Congratulations, Derek Henry.

The Bengals remaining schedule at Bills, Ravens at home, at Dolphins, Cardinals and Browns at home. So things are looking at, but the game, the Bills is the game, Mocho. Yeah. I don't think you guys can make it if you don't beat the Bills.

What you mean? We win the division. That's what I'm saying, I don't think, but here's the thing. I don't know, hold on, who did Pittsburgh play tomorrow? Because I think you got, what are you guys, you four and six? Tomorrow's Friday. I mean, Sunday, Sunday. Okay.

Steelers play the bills. So you better, you better be rooting for the, you better be room for the bills. Yeah, yeah. You better be room for the bills. You know what's funny? If I'm not mistaken, I think the Steelers have lost the last two, right? The Steelers have lost the last two. You know what?

They probably not. going to lose to the bills. They probably, they're probably not going to lose to the bills. I, it's, I don't understand. I don't know what it is. It's just about the football gods and the way football works. I don't know what it is.

And I guarantee you, chat, listen to me. I guarantee you, I'm not saying that the Steelers are just that good, but just the way the game of football, it's just the way it goes. I don't know what it is. I guarantee you the Steelers beat the bills. I can feel it. I just don't see that happening. Where is that game in Pittsburgh or Buffalo?

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Dak Prescott, league leading four 300-yard game, puts the Cowboys above 500 for the first time since week five of last season. The Cowboys, in back-to-back weeks, just beat both teams that were in the Super Bowl in a span of four days. Dak Prescott, 27 of 39, 320, two touchdowns, one interception. C.D. Lamb on nine targets had seven catches, a buck 12, and a touchdown. George Pickens was his sensational self, although he did not get the ball into the end zone. He had six catches for 88 yards.

Jake Ferguson had five for 36. Pickens did fumble, but Kavana Turpin jumped on it. I think, look, we understand the potency of the Cowboys. boy's offense. But today it was about the defense. Deidavian Clowny had two sacks. I thought they did a great job of putting pressure on Mahomes. Mahomes had

to make some hell of a throes. Some of those throws, like they're not a whole, they're not more than five quarterbacks that could have made some of those throws that Mahomes was making under the duress in which he was under. So I think the biggest thing, getting overshone back has really, really

help this defense. Because he can cover, he can come with pressure. He's a really good football player. And coming off the injury that he came off of last year and to come back and to be as disruptive as he is, Ocho, that that young man can play. He has a very, very bright future. But Jack Prescott, there's only one quarterback that I can definitively say playing better than Dak Prescott. And that's Matthew Stafford. Oh, yeah. The only quarterback that I'm willing to say right now is definitively playing better than one Dakota Prescott is Matthew Stafford. Yeah. Dak has been sensational last

three games. Yeah, he had a pick, got one pick, got some pressure in his face on his first drive. But other than that, he was sensational today. Making throws, giving guys an opportunity to make plays, I thought he played unbelievable today. Yeah. And when you think about it, too, I think most of the people, obviously, pundits and analysts, those that are supposed to be professionals and experts, all of them had the chiefs to win. You know, mostly everybody had the chiefs to win. But the funny thing about it is, tonight's game with the Bengals and the Ravens, The one thing that stood out is what people, nobody would guess. It was our defense.

It was our defense that won us the game. It has always been the Achilles Hill and the Wolves for the Dallas Cowboys. It's been their defense. And what we're able to do? The defense looked good. So those trades are starting to look good. You know, the Kenny Walker trade, the Quinn and Williams trade, had getting Logan Wilson and collectively as a group in its totality

of playing really good football, especially against not a Super Bowl winning team, a playoff team, a team that's always. in the contention every single year, despite them being five and five or six and five, whatever the record. Six and six now. They're six and six. They're not the same team of old, obviously.

No. And it's mainly on the defensive side of football, Ocho. They can't pressure the quarterback like they once could. Chris Jones is still a good player, but he can't dominate the game like he once could. He takes, and he tries, he makes himself out of plays. He jumped round of block, and now that he has a quick hitting play,

the safety doesn't feel and now the running back hits his head on the goalpost. There are far too many of those plays. If they bring pressure, now you isolate your secondary one-on-one. There are a lot of penalties called today. I mean, it's like,

it seemed like every time Dak went back to pass, they were calling penalties. McDuffie. McDuffie just seemed tentative today to me. I don't know if there's something wrong. Maybe it was just those guys put the fear of God and know a lot of people. But he has ten of it.

He's normally a willing, a willing, a willing, a, a willing, a, a, tackler. I just didn't see it today. 10 penalties for a buck 19 for the, uh, uh, the chiefs. The Cowboys had seven for 50. There's only one turnover in the game. The time of possession was very close. Uh, the total plays was close. Uh, obviously Dallas had, uh, 457 yards, almost 100 more yards total drive.

But the biggest difference, Ocho, no. The chiefs couldn't get. them off the field on third down. Cowboys was 9 of 16 on third down. They got him in third down a bunch. They just couldn't get them off the field. Yeah. And, you know, also a lot of people, ACD Lamb, I see you. I see you cooking. That's what you do. That's what you do. Shottie said, listen, I don't care about what happened last game. I know the drops happened. You know, it affected the game. We're going to do everything we can to make sure he gets his confidence back and we're going to feed him.

We're going to feed him again. He had 11 targets. He caught 9 in the things. Rhythm. Call 11, called 7. Oh, my, oh, it was 7? Okay, my bad.

My bad, my bad. Hey, that goddamn George Piggins, man. He's phenomenal. If he had scored on that one, he heard of that guy, Ocho. If he had scored on that one. I would have turned the TV off. I was thinking the same thing.

I would have turned TV off. I don't need to see no more. I don't need to show no more. he's a top he's a top five talent right yes top five talent yes when he puts it all together when he puts it all together and focuses on just the game itself you can still have fun you can still have that edge that makes you in NFL young boy you can still have that edge

but just just know what line not the cross and just teeter it just a little bit that's what you get when he's been with the cowboy so far Oh, he's phenomenal. I mean, he can make tough contestants, catches. He's tremendous run out of the catch. A big body, he's physical. He's focused.

You know what funny? You know what funny? You've seen him in person yet? No. Man, the man, every bit of six-fold. Oh, yeah. He looked big on television. He looks, he looks, he don't know, you know what I'm saying? He don't look like a Julio, like he's like that side.

But you can tell he's on the taller side. He tall, he tall, he's tall as hell. So, I mean, just what he's able to do at his height, you know, as far as this route running, but what he's able to do when he get the goddamn ball in his hands? He's sensational with that. He ran a slam route, and I ain't seen this a long time. Most of the time you see it in college because, you know, everyone is, it doesn't react as fast. You catch a slant and you reverse back out.

Pill out, peel out. Yep. Peel back out. Man, that doesn't happen in the NFL because people close the gaps. Boy, they hit them line normally hitting you in the back of your head. Get one of the other. I'm like, man, this man, I had cut the food. Ocho, if you look at, look at,

because I thought Kansas City offensively, I thought they played well. Rashid Weiss dropped a huge third down and gave him the ball back. They end up because, you know, Mahoney has started to get a rhythm and they're making some plays. And I was like, ah, that third down.

And we'll talk about this same thing happening in Detroit with Jameson Williams. Yeah. It was a little tougher catch for Jameson. Yeah. With that kind of speed, and they throw that ball on your back here, and you try to hope it's hard. It's hard.

Excuse me, but I thought Rishie Rice, that drop on third down was huge. They ended up having a punt. And it gave the Cowboys the ball back. And I think they ended up getting a field goal out of, if I'm not mistaken. Yeah. I didn't jot it down. But if you look at Kansas City defense, chat, and I think y'all agree, this is not the same defense.

because Ocho, when they bring pressure, you sacrifice the back end. I mean, George Pickett ran the same route, slant. This corner is playing slightly outside. Why are you going for a head fake outside when you're already out there?

Ocho, you already, Ocho, you already splitting the difference. You already there. Yeah, and you know the most of the times when it comes, depending on who the receiver is, the corner ain't going for that outside fake, but because it's Pickens, and what he's put on film so far,

you've fallen for the first move every time. Because you're not confident. Bingo. Watch Stingley. Watch for tan. Watch those, hey, hey,

do all that? The first day they do, ha, ha. Yep, they stabbing one way or the other. Yep, to keep the epic. All this right here.

Don't mean nothing. Right there. You ain't moving. You ain't. You ain't gained no ground, don't you? Yeah. I'm concerned once you start to gain ground.

Once you close the cushion, but if I'm here, let's just say I lined up two yards off you. And also, you're doing all this. You hadn't gained in the ground. No. You're ready to place. Mm-hmm. You're going to be tired, but you ain't got no,

you ain't going to, you ain't going nowhere. Yeah. So once you start to come up, Phil, and try to close that cushion, I'm going here. I'm going here. Yeah. And the funny thing about it is, and most of the time, all that is, I call it a feeler.

I want to feel where you at. Yes. and continue to keep that distance between us so it keeps me in position to make a play no matter what because if you can't close my cushion and you have to make you have to transition I'm already in position to make a play because I'm on the top side.

If you in front of me or I'm trailing, okay now I'm in no man's land damn near because I'm at your mercy. I'm at your mercy but as long as they got eyes on you and you're in front of me and my shoulders aren't turning up feeling I'm square. Oh shit, you're dead in the water. Ocho, if I'm a DB, you do a wire receiver, I do this and I can't touch you,

that means you haven't moved. So guess what? You haven't moved. You're not running nothing deep. Because the thing is, in order for it to time up, you've got to go in a hurry. You've got to be 42 and 4. And you're not moving, that's going to throw the time it off.

Yes. So once I do this, I don't touch it. I do this, I don't touch it. Well, you ain't closed the cushion. so you're not going to where. So you're running something quick underneath. Got to be. I mean,

that's how, that's how I'm looking at it. I'm looking at your, if I'm looking at, I'm looking at, and I saw who's that today? Uh, I saw somebody that I forget who it was on show.

He crashed down. God, if the guy crashed down, what you think the other guy going to do? He's going to loop around. Oh, yeah, every time. He got to be,

he, you got to replace, What disappeared? I'm like, guys, are you serious? You mean to tell me you let that guy cross your face? Pass that off and be ready for the looper. The lineback is going to loop over the top. He ain't trying to put two guys in the A gap,

two guys in the B gap. Somebody got to hit A, somebody got to hit B, and somebody got to be in the C. Yeah. But I think the thing is, Ocho, and a lot of times, guys panic. you do panic and they don't trust their coaching they don't trust their technique and they panic and the next thing you know the play gets blown up when all you had to do was to trust your

technique you know that guy disappeared somebody's got to appear and you know you got you got to think fast too huh you got it you got oh you do yes you got to think fast you got to recognize what you see in front of you use your eyes again your technique for one but you got to be able to communicate Yes. You've got to be able to communicate. Some of the things that you see on film, you know, throughout the week, you're going to see them in the game. Yes.

You're going to see them in the game. Most of the time it catches you off guard because sometimes you study stuff and you see a formation and okay, okay, this is it, I'm ready, I'm waiting on way, and then it's something completely different. Then they come back and hit you with the same exact thing that you saw on film, but you're not ready for it because they don't load you to sleep with other shit. They didn't load you to sleep. But the way they study tape, the way we study tape, oh,

show, we don't look at everything. Okay, obviously we look at coverage and we look at D-Lyman, because back then when I was in the league, they used to play a lot of 25 front. The Sam backer was on the ball. Now all they play are overfronts. Right. Four down linemen. They don't, they rarely put the Sam backer on the ball. Now, the Steelers

play a three-four defense where they play Sam, Will, Mike, plug, and they got three-down linemen, and they got both linebackers on the ball. And normally once, one always coming because you want four-man pressure. With that being said, we would get cut up and we look, just look at lineman and linebacker's feet.

And that would tell us, okay, you see his stance? Look at his stance. Look at his stance. Look what he's going to do. Right. Look how square he is. He ain't coming. Mm-hmm. Look at the cop.

He's going to put the foot back or he's going to give you a, and I'm like, and I'm like, hey. If it staggered, if it's staggered, he's going to try to cross my face, all I'm going to do is shove him on to the tackle. And here comes out of my backer, and I'm going to catch him. Mm-hmm. And there is port of the t-D right off my hill. But you just got to, look, I trust my film study. And they do something that we didn't see on film. Hey, coach, this is what we thought.

This is what we thought we were going to get. We didn't get it. I'm going to have to react, but you're not going to beat me. You're not going to beat me, Ocho, with what I saw on tape. Now, if you beat me with something else, I give you credit. Hey, they get to practice too. They get the practice too. It's not like we're the only one of practicing.

They're going to show up unprepared. but you're not going to beat me with what I saw you do in this down in distance and this area of the field against this formation. You might beat me doing something else, but I won't let you beat me with that. And I just think the guys, but give the Cowboys credit.

Dak, Dak always could spend the ball. The problem that got that, that he would turn the ball over. He would put the ball in harm's way. He's doing a better job of protecting the football. And he has two playmakers. He's never had this many playmakers at once. Oh, not like this.

Even when he had Dad's and Gallup, they're not CD and PIC. No. This is a whole, this is a whole different, a whole different animal that we're dealing with that he has. And that offensive line is getting better and better and better. And the funny thing about it is that the offense is well-balanced. It's well-balanced.

Not only can they throw the ball, but they can also run the ball. And they don't go away from the run because the run most of the time is opening up the pass for the goddamn cowboys, which is why is having so much success. I understand how good picking the CD Lam are, but hell, you can run the ball like Williams is doing with shit. It meant when it's time to play action, man, everything's going to be wide-ass open.

Yeah, you got to, but you got to stay balanced, though, Joe. Because it's easy to fall in love when you got pick and you got a CD and you got guys that can go make plays. It's easy to get away because the way Dak is spinning the ball right now, it's easy to get away from the run game. But when you got Williams and you got Davis that can, you know, and the blink that can, Davis is not only if it's Williams can get you the tough yards but he got he got speed to be able to get outside and get a and get a 20 30 yard game obviously we saw davis hit his head on the goal post and then all of a sudden they're catching napping and they're going to do a quick jet handoff to turpin coming around and we know he got crazy speed so yes they can run the ball they're really balanced but over the last three weeks I've seen this offensive line getting they're starting to jail you look at Booker uh uh uh you look at uh you look at uh uh you look at uh you look at uh uh you look at uh you look at uh you look at uh you look at uh,

Smith, today still was in it right tackle. Yeah. And I thought they played, I thought they played really, really well today. They did. And like I said, the Chiefs now, that model is not going to work anymore.

You got to go to hell, you got to go get a defensive line with Ocho, that you don't have to. And you know Spags want to bring pressure. When he feels threatened, he's always going to bring that pressure, Ocho. But now you don't really have that back end that can hold up.

Well, you got to understand, hey, look at the back end they had. Let me tell you when it was at their best, right? When it was at their best, is we could bring pressure because we know we got Trent McDuffie and the Darry Snead out there. Yep. And we're going to play a shell on top of that. And you had Reed. You had Reed at safety.

Big man, listen. And it wasn't nothing. And it wasn't nothing going on because I feel I can bring pressure because I know I don't have to worry about my goddamn back end. Nah, it's not that same. Once you check for those players, and you don't have players of the same caliber or with the same skill set

that can allow you to do some of the things you want to do defensively? Yep. Not this is what you get. You're absolutely right, but that defensive line is not the same. Like I said, CJ is a good player,

but that 15, that 12, 15 sack guy, he's not that anymore. I don't even think Koloftus registered a tackle today. Did he make a tackle today? No. No. staffs for Kolophas. You all get one.

One total, one tackle. They had two, what, two tackle for losses and no sacks. That, you can't, you, it's hard. And I thought, Patrick Mahal was playing unbelievable football, Luchel. Yeah, good football. I mean, he had four touchdowns. Four touchdowns, 23 of 34, 261,

four touchdowns got out of harm's way scramble the ball you know he still got those legs were needed that play that he got pressure uh the guy was about the he jumped before he knew the guy was going to try to sweep his legs and he's off balance and he throws the ball i think he hit rice no he hit uh worthy worthy they're not a but they're not but a handful of quarterbacks to make a player like that i'm looking at a guy like a josh allen or lamar uh my home boy somebody like that it's only it's only a few man there's There's only a few that can do that. But the Cowboys, the Cowboys, what, you got the Cowboys schedule up here?

Cowboys. At Lions. At Lions. Oh, Cowboys, okay. Vikings at home, charges at home, commanders on the road, giants on the road. Hmm. And what we saw from the Lions, hey, I don't know, Campbell might want to turn that play, calling back over to John Morton.

Just saying, offensive line, they're offensive line, but we're talking about them. The cowboy at Lions next week. Vikings at home. Oh, they play next Thursday. That's next Thursday night. Who they play? Who they play next Thursday?

Right? Is that a prime game? Yeah, that's next Friday. Next Thursday, excuse me, next Thursday. Because that's normally what they do. They play Thursday, Thursday, and then they get 10 days off and play the following Sunday, which will be a Sunday night.

Yeah, they play, no, they play Thursday, Thursday, then the following Sunday. So they play Thanksgiving, they'll play next Thursday, and then they'll play, yeah, because that's what, that's normally how Dallas schedule shapes up, Ocho. They normally play Thanksgiving, then they'll play the following Thursday, and then they'll play the following Sunday. Right. So give them enough time in between the rest. Yep, yep.

Wait, hold on, hold on, who, oh, no, we were talking about the Lions. Okay, we need it today. Let me see it back. Let me see that they got water in here. They could, hey, look, they could, the Eagles could have dealt them a death blow.

The Chiefs could have dealt them a death blow, but give the Cowboys credit. The Cowboys like, nah, we still believe. We still got faith. Six 11th, so they got five games to play. Can they win out?

Absolutely. The game only get more important as they go along. further and further. What they did against the Eagles, what they've done against the chiefs today, all that's behind them. Now we've got to put our focus on the Lions.

And all of a sudden, the Lions, I mean, Ross St. Brown went out. Now, he has 10 days to cup. We don't know the severity of it. All they say it was an ankle injury and he was out, did not play. Yeah, he got, he got rolling. In his absence, Jameson Williams stepped up

and played huge. Jameson Williams was unbelievable today. But the Cowboys have a very, they got a very, very favorable schedule. You look at the Lions, their game behind the Lions. So they beat the Lions, now they flip positions. Mm-hmm.

They still, they will still be in the eighth spot instead of the night spot, if I'm not mistaken. Right. And then Vikings, charges, commanders, and giants. Mm-hmm. He close?

Oh, okay. You think they can run the table, Ocho? The Cowboys? Well, apps a goddamn looly. As long as they continue to do what they do defensively and play like that, play solid defense. You don't have to be all-world. Just meet us halfway.

Just meet us halfway and let the offense take care of what they're doing. Offensively, Dak, you can't turn the ball over. Protect the ball. That's it. And make sure whoever's calling the plays. I'm not sure if shy just called the plays, but keep that balance. Keep that balance with Williams running the ball,

you know, zone reads, off tackle, some of those sweeps, some of those pitches you'd like to do those tosses, and then play action, and going to kill him every time. What Pick is able to do, obviously, pick playing mostly on the outside, and you see the Lamb is killing everything, intermediate, short-needed intermediate. I mean, you'll be fine.

And obviously, Jake Ferguson, when they want to use him and get him the ball, they have the weapons to do it. All it comes down to is you have to play solid, complimentary defense and they'll be fine. It's easy for me to sit here and say it, but actually going out there and doing it, play by play, drive by drive,

that's the hard part. It is. And when you look at it, Ocho, you look at the commanders might be without Jane Daniels. He practiced, but he's probably, I think the commanders play the Broncos this week, Ocho. So there was a part that he was practicing, but they said it was iffy that he played Sunday.

We'll see if he's, fully recovered and he's able to go against the Cowboys. The Chargers, we don't know what charges we're going to get. We know offensively they can be good. We know they put pressure on your defensively, but we never know which Charger team is going to show up. The Vikings, JJ McCarthy, boy. Hey, what's wrong with JJ?

Oh, we got a very special guest joining us. Coming fresh from the Thanksgiving Day game in which the defensive line did a great job of getting after Patrick Mahon. Here you're Osloy, oh, Diggizzoa. Ziggi, how you doing, bro? What's good, man? How y'all doing? I'm doing great.

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Oh, I had three hot dogs a day. Oh, wow. Hey, no, I'm spoiled, bro. I don't know how long I've been saying it. probably last two years since my mom moved in with me and she's been on the ones and twos in the kitchen and I'm not going to stop saying it

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